>>23130512 OP I'm in literally the same position as you. Most girls just don't like my personality. What I'm going to try to do is meet girls and just try to talk to them as friends rather than hitting on them. That's actually worked for me in the past. All the girls that have been into me are girls that I just talked to as friends. Whenever I saw a girl as a potential sexual partner, I'd get nervous around her and she'd be turned off. But when I saw her as just a friend, I felt more free to be myself and a lot of girls were into that. I think the whole PUA thing only works for guys that are very extroverted, charismatic and charming. I don't think it'll work for more reserved guys like us.
>>23130512 Also, OP, you're a pretty good looking dude, nomo. Your face is pretty symmetrical and you have masculine facial features. Just start talking to some girls as friends, and I'm sure some of them will be interested in dating you.
>>23130762 Dude I used to be the same way, and I still kind of am, but I'm working on it. I don't know if you're like this, but I used to see every single girl outside of my family as a potential sexual partner (and I still do). This made me petrified of women. I almost never talked to girls in elementary and middle school, I rarely did in high school, and even as a freshman in college I would get really anxious whenever girls were around.
But now when I talk to girls, I just try to see them as friends. This will allow you to overcome your fear of talking to girls, because if you weren't planning on having sex with them in the first place, then there's nothing to be afraid of. If they reject you or aren't into you, it's no loss. Basically, when you talk to girls, try to imagine you're talking to a guy. That should help you overcome your fear of talking to women.
>>23132201 See OP: girls think you're mad attractive too. Now you just gotta start talking to them. Like I said twice already, when you talk to girls, try to imagine that they're guys. That should help you overcome your fear of talking to girls.
>>23133536 Oh ok, well nevermind then. Still, you're a pretty good looking dude, I'm not even kidding. Also, this is going to sound random, but were you the one that was posting all those girls' nudes in that kik group the other day?
>>23130411 You're cute OP, but your personality is cookie-cutter /r9k/ shit. Basically it's not something you developed you just adopted it over time. Zap /r9k/ away from your brain and you'll be a pure original nigga (slang for black man). that's what gazelles like
>>23130411 You're actually really handsome OP. Too bad your straight. Anyways, if you do want to get more qt grils, I would change your style. Your current one is fine but you can pull off a way better style most people cannot
>>23140812 With that attitude, you're doomed to such behavior. From what I've read, you talk like a typical /v/irgin. It's shits and giggles online, but I seriously hope you do not communicate that way in person. Changing your style would help as it would give you a heightened sense of confidence. I would advice you to dress more hip urban or some shit like that (never browse malefashionadvice though, you'll just look like a tremendous faggot), you really could pull it off and white chicks would be all over your dick. Also, if girls don't like you, move on like you don't need them. Learn to be independent. Get rid of the dumb woe is me attitude. It isn't going to help you in any way. Girls aren't attracted to guys who wallow in self pity like yourself. [spoiler]I honestly am starting to doubt the OP picture is you too.[/spoiler]
>>23140886 I don't actually speak this way irl. I don't really talk to women at all besides necessary interaction (restaurants, family, etc). These are more of my thoughts which I normally suppress. It's nice to be able to speak in a similar manner to how I feel. But I assure you, that image is most definitely me. >>23140894 Why should I view them as anything else?
>>23140914 Because women are people, and they can take many roles in your life that aren't sexual and/or romantic partner. Friend, confidante, workmate, mentor, etc.
Instead of entering every situation with the only possible end goal of the interaction being romantic/sexual and everything else is a failure, go into it seeing what kind of things women can bring into your life in all forms, whether they're platonic or not.
>>23140899 Do you not see the problem with this? OP is in cycle that'll result in crippling self esteem and immense hatred for all women. He needs to break out of it. >>23140914 I certainly hope not. Do you attend any sort of college? I know women can be extremely difficult at times. All of my roommates are female and they can certainly be randomly bitchy at the same time. At that point, I just retreat alone, but does that affect the way I treat other women? No. Do I sometimes make generalizations about women based off of my experiences? Certainly, but again, the key part is making it not affect the way I interact with others. Only think it out; never let any bad thoughts or assumptions influence your actions. Also, I am 90% certain this is a troll. If you want any more response, validate that is truly you by posting timestamp. Otherwise, good luck out there OP.
>>23140967 but he is free to state his intention to woman, it don't make him a criminal or a pervert. in fact it makes him determined and honest, why spend whole nights with someone you don't really care or interested in
>>23140974 you just can't see past what society taught you, woman will only oblige to you if you have something to offer. you can be good,kind,tall,smart generous and funny all you want its not gonna help you, not even one bit (that's if you have nothing concrete to present in terms of goods,sustainability,or statues)
>>23141005 Fair enough, good luck out there OP. I know it's frustrating, but I believe that you'll find a girl who sees the value in you. Once that happens, you'll start to see the suppressed value that you had the whole time.
>>23141021 You could have at least tried to write an actual response, you know.
>>23141026 Of course he is free to state his intentions. He's more than free to be romantically or sexually interested in women. I'm just saying that if that's the ONLY way he views women, it's going to be obvious, and that's going to drive women away, regardless of what role they could have played in his life.
>>23141047 he don't view woman as sexual products, he just want to fuck. i gurantee you that if he gets laid, he will give her all the company she needs. because you know how it is, everything costs something. even talking to a woman costs money(can i get you something to drink) so don't try to make it look less abstract
>>23141090 >he don't view woman as sexual products, he just want to fuck.
That's literally the same thing.
Talking to a woman doesn't cost money. No one says you have to buy a woman a drink. You can just go over and talk to her. Not to mention that a lot of places that people meet aren't even set up so you would be able to offer to buy someone something.
I don't think you quite understood what I said in my first message. I'm saying that if any man ONLY views women as potential sexual/romantic partners, it will drive women away. Women can tell when dudes are just trying to fuck or date, and if they're only interested in being your friend or workmate or whatever, it's going to push them away. And what I'm saying is that having women in your life, regardless of their role, is a positive thing.
>>23141145 >Women can tell when dudes are just trying to fuck or date, and if they're only interested in being your friend or workmate or whatever, it's going to push them away.
i don't get it, woman can play that game too but they don't. again, prices. there is no such thing as true bond connection or chemistry its all working like a system where every person gives something in his turn one gives drinks,other is inclined to talk one gives meal,other is inclined to meet one gives condom,other is inclined for sex and so forth and so forth and it literally never stops. only way it would stop is if chemistry and bonds really existed and 2 people wouldn't have to wait for their turn to chip in
>>23140894 >>23140967 >>23141047 >>23141145 Stop replying to him. After reading his responses, it's extremely transparent that he's a shit troll. He responds to actual advice and help with "all women are evil!!" or "fuck off normie chad you will never understand /r9k/ culture." He's like Brandon, but somehow even more boring, irrelevant, and unfunny.
>>23141163 >i don't get it, woman can play that game too but they don't.
And again, you aren't required to buy women anything. If you choose to approach women in that way, that's up to you. But if you meet a woman at the library, a cooking class, university, a job, a party, the gym, etc, those are all places where you can chat and there is no reason to spend money. The point of the classic "can I buy you a drink?" is to show intent, not that you have to spend money on women.
>>23141183 You're 100% right, but it's 4:00AM and I can't sleep, so this is entertaining enough.
>>23140894 >If you only see women as possibly partners and not as whole people >go into it seeing what kind of things women can bring into your life in all forms
>mfw psychopathic normans normalize their socially manipulative psychopathy amongst themselves >mfw they pat themselves on the back for not looking at other people as merely sex objects >mfw they instead use other people as non sexual toys to enrich their lives
>>23141306 you said in your post "you aren't required to buy anything", that's right you have the freedom not to do so, just like you have the freedom to ask a woman for sex. both of these method aren't likely to work. so what do we do now? try more shitty and ineffcient ways to get woman or just tag along and invite them to whatever cost more money. ever seen a woman get drunk alone, in the street on friday night? you probably did but how many? why would she do that when she can have all of that and more for free
>>23141338 You can ask a woman to do something that is free, you know. Walks in the park, going to the library, study dates if you're in college, hikes, a lot of museums are free, geocaching, etc are all fun free date ideas. And if you want to do something that costs money, work collaboratively. Ask a woman to go on a picnic with you, and say that you'll bring the food if she brings the wine. There's never an obligation to pay for someone else's stuff.
I generally don't see women drunk and alone anywhere, as it's pretty dangerous. If I see women drunk downtown, it's usually in groups, and they're almost always waiting in line for pizza or complaining about how long it takes to get a cab.
>>23141367 I mean, if you believe that nothing at all can be altruistic, then everything we do is a narcissistic act.
>>23141430 those are very nice suggestions and they should work but do they? because i don't know any woman who would go on a "free" date, it just leave bad impression on them, i doubt you would do it yourself
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