New Planet

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> Astronomers have not observed the planet directly.

kek

>>7797590
I-is it called Pluto by chance?

Obligatory
>planet is a social construct, the distinction between dwarf planet, planetoid and planet are arbitrary classifications not based on scientific fact but on orbitism.

>>7797611
Language in it's entirety is a social construct, whats your point?

>>7797628

>/sci/'s reading comprehension and sense of humor - the post

>>7797605
>That far out

Fucking crimity. It's probably just an extremely cold, barren, gray piece of rock. Could any planet with an orbit and distance away from the sun really have much going on with it?

>>7797641
If it's really that big, sure. Could be a gas giant.

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>>7797641
>piece of rock
It's described as being x10 the size of Earth.

>>7797611
Funny you should mention Pluto, this paper was a Mike E. Brown joint, the guy who killed Pluto's status as a planet (also the discoverer or dwarf planet Eris).

>>7797641
You could have said the same thing about pluto and it's got more going on than a lot of shit in the inner solar system.

Also, reminder that Neptune was first inferred through indirect observation before being confirmed.

>>7797590
That far out it would have some hellacious winds ripping around it assuming it has an atmosphere.

>>7797652
>tfw not sure if shitty planet or bacteria culture

I get scared thinking about what the sun would look like on a planet at that distance.

>>7797664
Like a really bright star. Probably not very distinguishable from other bright stars in the night sky.

>>7797652
> x10 earth
The size is scary though. Also why is it too dark ? Is it the atmosphere or the actual rocks on the surface are that dark ? Or is it just a digital representation and the planet actually looks different.

>>7797652

AYO MIKE BROWN DINDU NUFFIN! ASK NEIL HE KNOW

something something hands up planet something, beef with Stern.

>>7797652
>It's described as being x10 the size of Earth.
10x the mass. So like a fraction larger diameter, right?

if it's true, they should name it Nibiru just to piss off everyone

>>7797662

false color, but you knew that already, probably.

>>7797661
How so? I can only imagine that it might if it has a ton of geothermal activity creating a temperature gradient. After all, Neptune is incredibly cold yet the winds aren't necessarily "hellacious".

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>tfw it is nowhere near the sun right now and won't be for at least 5000 years so it won't send any comets our way in our lifetimes

>>7797605

What are the other large, elliptical orbits displayed in this picture? I assume one of them is Sedna.

>>7797676
It's far away from the sun. Very far away. Not much light shines upon it to begin with, nevermind what color it might be.

>>7797682
he a good boy just need mo money fo dem space programs

>>7797676
Then whats the bright shit on its surface ? Also there are large blurry streaks on it, is it a gas planet or something ?

>>7797699
Nigga that's Pluto. Are you colorblind perchance?

>>7797702
The OP image is not pluto. Its the rendering of the 9th planet AKA nibiru(the destroyer of parallel dimensions)

>>7797691
if this picture >>7797605 is to scale then even at its closest point it'll still be difficult to detect through first hand observation

>>7797706
It's literally just a drawing some artist came up with, so they had an image to attach to the article. It has no real basis on fact because no one has any idea what this planet looks like, if it does exist.

>>7797652
>Mike E. Brown
WUZ

>>7797590
As an American.

DIBS.

Superior American Caltech astronomers finding more spess clay for us to colonize.

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>>7797722
Brand New Space Documentary Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLJzRNvVnE

>>7797590

G N A
N
A

http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/astronomers-question-claim-of-super-planet-found-at-solar-systems-edge/
http://arxiv.org/abs/1512.02650

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/feature-astronomers-say-neptune-sized-planet-lurks-unseen-solar-system

Interesting, wonder if it will be verified in our lifetime.

Meanwhile, let's check the Kuiper Belt for moar minor planets and stuff

I propose we name it America.

All in favor? Doesn't fucking matter, overriden.

At that distance it must have the biggest gravity well in the solar system, right? Therefore it might have captured a shitton of bodies, even some the size of Sedna.

Also the thing is supposed to have a 30° inclination and a pretty eccentric orbit, anyone else think it sounds like a captured exoplanet too?

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>>7797683
you are right, I shouldn't use words like 'size'.

Assuming Planet 9 is an ice giant with an approximate density of Uranus (1.27g/cm), the Volume of Planet 9 would be 5.972e28cm^3 if we convert the Earth's Mass into grams and multiply it by Uranus' density.

Using v=(4/3pi)r^3 and converting back into metres gave me a radius of 24248063.756m, or x3.8 the radius of Earth.

>>7797781
>multiply it by 10 and Uranus' density
fixd

>>7797761
>If other people – better astronomers – get excited about the idea of finding Planet Nine, we could hopefully see it within a couple of years
Probably.

>>7797767
Then it's settled

>>7797780
Probably more likely it originated here and had its orbital path fucked from the get go by Jupiter and Saturn

>>7797767
Fuck you, we're naming it Grooseland

>>7797767
>>7797790
>not New Pluto

>>7797789

Isn't there a strong theory that assumes that there used to be an Ice giant between Saturn and Uranus that was ejected by Jupiter, based on the current arrangement of the solar system ?

>>7797794
>Not Pluto 2: Planetary Boogaloo

>>7797794
>>7797789


Planet Dindu

he was a good planet
bout to get his orbit on track

>>7797767
Unknown Planet : 4YyL - MA 0

>>7797794
>newto

>>7797767

>calling more things by first name of some goombah from Florence

Amerigo Vespucci has enough credit already, give him some rest.

>>7797767
Or Amerilard, kek

>>7797789
I just find it hard to fathom how Jupiter could send a 10 earth mass planet on an orbit with such a high perihelion on a 30° inclination. It's not impossible but it seems like a bit of a stretch.

Whereas for a captured planet it makes sense easily.

>>7797811
I agree. We should name it after John Cabot(Giovanni Cabotto). He was a cool explorer and not from Florence(he was from Venice).

I hope it's a cold frozen wasteland with ungodly ammounts of mineral deposits that are home to ancient AryyKsharJarh, the hundred headed goat.

>>7797814
look into the absalutly ridiculous mass of jupiter, now imagine the planet was between Mars and Jupiter, maybe it began forming somewhere near the Martian orbit, because both bodies had a high gravity they were pulling on each other and jupiter inevitably won.

As you said, it definitly isnt impossible, and in a young solar system I can see this happening as each time it passes its orbit becomes more and more eccentric until it is just pulled the fuck away, because once it gets the far side of Jupiter it still has Saturn and even Uranus is quite a massive planet both of which could have helped stabilize its orbit.

The paper the article cites says there is only a .007% chance that the perihelion and clustering of the other distant kbo is caused by chance so if it isn't a planet it has to be something. What?

>>7797801
Quite an unfunny joke, /pol/

>>7797836

Some other thing worth 10 Earths. Tell me a thing like brown star is out of question.

>>7797851
it's out of the question. Brown dwarfs are many times more massive than Jupiter and the paper is talking about something only a few times more massive than earth.

>>7797590
It's not the first time people have suggested that there might be another planet out there.

>>7797690
Yup, sedna and similar.

Guys.

So the planet hasn't been 'observed', yet, right?

Okay, so guys

what if

guys

what IF

guys listen

WHAT IF it's dark matter?

>our mathematical models won't work
>I know, add hypothetical "dark planet"

>Has not cleared its orbit of other bodies
>People calling it "Planet" Nine.

>>7797878
Once again, that's exactly how we found Neptune.

>>7797864
What if

WHAT IF

its ur mum

>>7797864
Dark Matter doesnt form celestial bodies because it doesnt interact with other matter (think neutrons not reacting with matter unless hitting it directly because of no electrical forces)

>>7797864
DUDE DANK MATTER LMAO

>>7797853

Ok, so we're dealing with another type of space anomaly

>>7797801
nice one. ill be using it.

>>7797864
Dark matter doesn't cluster into spheres though, it tangles into threads.

>>7797814
Jupiter is 317 times the mass of the earth, so nearly 32 times as massive as the proposed planet. That combined with additional gravitational pull from Saturn and possibly the other gas giants makes it a fairly realistic scenario. But the possibility of it being a captured exoplanet is valid too, it just seems unlikely an object of that mass would be flying by the sun at such a far distance and enter an orbit rather than just having its trajectory changed and continuing onward through interstellar space

>>7797934
That's always made no sense since apparently dark matter interacts gravitationally only but it doesn't clump up like other matter.

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Two of them, X2 and X3, are gas planets, one is about half the size of Jupiter and the other is about half the size of Neptune. Both are in the outer (spherical) part of the Oort Cloud. The third one is a solid matter planet which is only slightly smaller than Earth but damn far away for a visit.

>>7797934
but we don't know much about what shape this thing is though do we?

>>7797864
Plot twist:
>it's a black hole

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>>7797590
>ninth-planet

You mean someone found Pluto again?

>>7797934
Dark matter is as close to uniform as makes no difference. To see any definite structure you would have to look on a galactic scale, not a stellar one.

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>>7797945
>>7797864
If you are gonna >>>/x/ it up you may as well post something cooler.

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>it changes it's orbit and starts moving toward us
>it opens its eye

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>>7797952
>If you are gonna >>>/x/ it up
you're new aren't you

>>7797956
Is this from a comic? Name?

>>7797961
Hellstar Remina

Why is this Planet X the new ninth planet and not any of the objects beyond Neptune

>>7797974
Because every other object beyond Neptune is a cuck. The rules say you have to be the alpha of your orbit.

IMHO, this fairly big celestial body deserves a mythological name, (preferrably from the ancient greece pantheon, like most of the others).

What would be an appropriate one?

>>7797979
Faggules.

>>7797979

Planet 9 should be named after one of the Titans, who were thrown out of Olympus by Zeus (Jupiter).

>>7797979

voting for janus

>>7797990
Cronus it is.

This is the official name and it will never be changed from now on.

>>7797605
What the fuck is that? Get that shit out of my solar system, that's just some immigrant planet trying to hop on the gravy train

>>7797590
Mithras?

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>>7797983
Assuming that you referred to Hercules, it's not bad, for a planet flinging the shit out of other planetoids just by making its way through the solar system.

But Hercules was just a demigod, doesn't make me fully satisfied.

>>7797990
I like this idea.

>>7797993
"god of beginnings and transitions, and thereby of gates, doors, doorways, passages and endings"
Pretty much Nibiru-ish

>>7797994
>Cronus
My favourite by now.

>>7797994
Cronus already has a Roman/Celestial analogue: Saturn.

I'm voting for Mnemosyne, Titan Goddess of Memory. Daughter of Uranus, fucked by Zeus.

>>7797611
>Obligatory
Pluto isn't the main gravitational force of its orbit. Neptune is. Therefore, it can't be a planet.

>>7797940
>>7797943
>>7797951
It only interacts gravitationally with matter. We don't know what forces govern how dark matter interacts with dark matter.

http://www.space.com/31200-dark-matter-hairs-earth.html

>cant even see it
>claim it exists
>people believe it

atheists will do the most ridiculous mental gymnastics to support their religion

>>7798012
saturn can do something else.

cronus fits planet meme much better.

>>7798024
true, and it is a much better name.

>>7797605
didnt you see ops picture. you stupiid idiot.

GUYS WAIT

WAIT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(hypothetical_star)

>>7797590
How is this different from all of the previous times some astronomers have gone "There's something funny with these orbits, they're being nudged by the gravity of a current planet count + 1th planet?" I mean yes, that's how we found Neptune and Pluto (Although that was partly just luck on Pluto's part) but there's been numerous other claims over the years that have amounted to naught. Call me back when they've actually spotted it.

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>>7797836
>What?
Three planets.
Plus the binary companion.
Enough for tons of papers.

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>>7798012
>>7798024
Is Hecate (or Hekate) already taken?

(/ˈhɛkətiː, ˈhɛkJt/; Greek Ἑkάτη, Hekátē) is a goddess in Greek religion and mythology, most often shown holding two torches or a key[1] and in later periods depicted in triple form. She was variously associated with crossroads, entrance-ways, dogs, light, the moon, magic, witchcraft, knowledge of herbs and poisonous plants, ghosts, necromancy, and sorcery.

>meme magic planet

We should name it Melancholia

>>7798036
I now prefer this to Cronus

>>7798039
Nah, we should name it Yuggoth

>>7798031
I'm guessing that's what the editors at Nature and Science thought when they sent the paper there

>>7798036
Hecate makes no sense as to how the planet was made.

Cronus does, flung out of heaven (solar system) by zeus (jupiter) which is how planet meme got its orbit.

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>>7798047
I guess you're right. It just fits too damn well.

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>>7797799
>mfw

>>7797590

ayyliums and their death star.

>>7797590
Well I didn't see that one coming.

>>7798036
Why not Tartarus? It's far beyond Pluto's orbit, like how Tartarus is far below Hades.

Is this Nemesis?

>>7798072
i like this option a lot, it ties into the Titan thing too since all the Titans were thrown from Heaven into Tartarus.

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>>7798036

I might be remembering this wrong, but didn't the Plutocaust people decide that trans-Neptunian bodies would be named after the Ice Nigger gods? If so, I have a grand proposal.

In fact, even if they DIDN'T make that a rule, my proposal stands. I humbly present, for the consideration of the internet: "Negafook." Negafook is the god of the North Wind, and of general cold/storminess. So it would actually fit reasonably well. Also, Uranus has been the most-abused celestial name for far, far too long. It's time to let somebody else be the butt (huehue) of our schoolchildren's jokes. Negafook; think different.

>>7797796
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_fifth_giant_planet

>>7798089
also, I mean, come on. Look at this fucking nigger. I mean, niggafook. It's never going to get better than this. And we're never going to have another chance to do something so grand. Write your congressman. Write the scientists. Call your mothers. Negafook. Negafook. Every day until they love it. Until YOU love it. Negafook

>>7798104
I prefer Terminus

>>7797605
We Phantasy Star IV now.

>>7798079
Maybe. It would be pretty boring if it was though. I like the idea of a brown dwarf orbiting our star in the Ort cloud.

This object is too small for something like that though.

>voyager cucked again

Poor fella.

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>>7797590
>Screenshot from EVE Online

nice.

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>>7798043
There's more than one planet X and Yuggoth should be the name of most distant one.

The predicted companion of the Sun also deserves a powerful name.
But would a brown dwarf count as a planet?
Star systems: 75% binary, 22% ternary, 3% single, very few 4&more.

>>7797688
>After all, Neptune is incredibly cold yet the winds aren't necessarily "hellacious".
Doesn't it storm and hail fucking diamonds on Neptune?

Call it Pepe. It's lonely and sad but also a smug fag for hiding all this time.

>>7797590
Fun Fact: It isn't a planet in orbit at all, it's a rogue planet on its way to tear through the solar system and either pull us into a terminating orbit with the sun or swing our planet into the freezing depths of deadly space.

APOCALYPSE!

>>7797822
what else can you tell me about AryyKsharJarh?

>>7797669
Well that wouldn't be the night sky, would it? :^)

>>7798164
isn't the hypothesized companion of the sun, already called 'nemesis'?

Sounds like Nemesis

Has to be an ice giant

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>>7798206
More like Memesis

>>7797767

>implying Alexander hasn't already conquered it and named the capital city Alexandria

>>7798217
>after genociding the indegenous population and then dying before he can form a lasting empire

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>>7798173
>rogue planet
These "nomad planets" could be surprisingly common in our bustling galaxy... The study predicts that there may be 100,000 times more of these wandering, homeless planets than stars in the Milky Way. (space.com)

Venus once was such a wanderer, 'born of Jupiter', captured about 80k years ago. Maybe.

>that astronomer salary
>literally do nothing but look for rocks in space

Fuck this math degree

>>7798173
well, fuck it was fun guys.

Gotta be a mass relay since Haron turned out to be a waste of time

>>7798209
My god the ninth planet is Jorunheimr!

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>>7797956
>that part where they went on the surface
In my opinion that was the creepiest atmosphere Ito did ever

>>7798173
>>7798235
>ids habbening, y didn't u stop it
>>>/pol/

>>7798241
> I can't tolerate memes
>>>/trash/

>>7798230
>Venus once was such a wanderer, 'born of Jupiter', captured about 80k years ago. Maybe.
no.

>>7798031
>Call me back when they've actually spotted it.

Don't hold your breath. We really only spotted Sedna lately since it was pretty much at perihelion. There could be dozens of Sednas out there, which implies a handful of Earth-sized bodies in the same volume.

The detection specifications are a graph... meaning you'd expect a lighter body closer in, or a heavier body further out. So you don't even know what size you're looking for.

Better telescopes are needed, and those should be "Keplerized". The Kepler probe has been so productive since it was set to stare at one patch of sky all the time. Then again, we'd need about 400 Keplers to distribute such a stare across the entire sky. A single Kepler had a lifetime cost of $600 million; even sharing mission resources, at best it would cost $100 million per Multi-Kepler, hence $40 billion lifetime cost. There's no budget for such a thing.

OK serious /sci/ence here. Lets say there is an object the size of the earth somewhere at the Kuiper Belt. What wold be its angular aperture as seen from earth?

>>7798222

All they had to do was surrender peacefully and make terms

>>7798146
Underrated post

I bet there's ethereal beings on it

>>7798251
>angular aperture
I don't think those words mean what you think they mean

>>7798251
>Lets say there is an object the size of the earth somewhere at the Kuiper Belt. What wold be its angular aperture as seen from earth?

Kuiper belt extends from 30 AU to 50 AU, so let's say 40:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arc+tan+%28earth+diameter+%2F+40+AU%29+in+degrees

About 0.4 arc seconds.

>>7798277
sorry, I meant to say angular diameter

I-is it dangerous, guys?

>>7797605
That's a big orbit.

>>7798251
7.63982E-5 degrees

You meant angular diameter

>>7798333
>I-is it dangerous, guys?

Well I imagine you'd die very quickly if you were there.

>>7798309
But what's is its albedo? Neptune was hard to find because it is dark, as well as distant.

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>>7798253

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>During planet formation, rock and ice embryos of the order of Earth's mass may be formed, some of which may be ejected from the Solar System as they scatter gravitationally from proto-giant planets. These bodies can retain atmospheres rich in molecular hydrogen which, upon cooling, can have basal pressures of 102 to 104 bars. Pressure-induced far-infrared opacity of H2 may prevent these bodies from eliminating internal radioactive heat except by developing an extensive adiabatic (with no loss or gain of heat) convective atmosphere. This means that, although the effective temperature of the body is around 30 K, its surface temperature can exceed the melting point of water. Such bodies may therefore have water oceans whose surface pressure and temperature are like those found at the base of Earth's oceans. Such potential homes for life will be difficult to detect.

The possibilities are endless.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v400/n6739/full/400032a0.html

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>>7797590
I already gave my opinion, we should call it after a christian saint.

>>7798346
no way to know yet obviously but it is a good question. I think knowing where to look will have a greater effect on finding it visually than its albedo though because it is so far away.

>>7797712

>Only the planet's rough orbit is known, not the precise location of the planet on that elliptical path. If the planet happens to be close to its perihelion, Brown says, astronomers should be able to spot it in images captured by previous surveys. If it is in the most distant part of its orbit, the world's largest telescopes—such as the twin 10-meter telescopes at the W. M. Keck Observatory and the Subaru Telescope, all on Mauna Kea in Hawaii—will be needed to see it. If, however, Planet Nine is now located anywhere in between, many telescopes have a shot at finding it.

Regardless, it will probably take a few years before we find it if it does in fact exist.

https://www.caltech.edu/node/49523?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

>>7797804

Underrated post

>>7797605
We haven't "seen" dark matter either but its existance is easily provable.

>>7797611
>>7798015
Neptune is not the issue as it's not in the same distinct orbit. Pluto is not a planet because it can't clear out it's own orbit of other debris.

It meets the other two qualifications.

>>7798230
I was just watching a documentary on the wandering planets last night, bretty cool.

Didn't see anything about Venus not being from our solar system though. What was the evidence behind that theory?

>>7797836
It could be selection. i.e. only seeing the KBOs closest to the Sun where they move the fastest and are brightest hence most easily detectable. Also surveys don't cover the whole sky.

OK I'll be the elephant in the room. So is there a possibility this is the end of our times?

>>7797883
>what is orbital resonance

Look up the IAU definition of a planet and tell us which bodies fit.

>>7798419
Physics desu
A planet could be orbiting at the edge of a system so fast that it could eventually sling shot its way out of the gravitational range of the star. Of course we've never observed that happening since it would be so relatively slow, interesting thought no matter what.

>>7797974
>>7798516

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Mine it for resources for our ever expanding crusade into the Galaxy!

>>7798517
I understand that you can have planets flung out if they get pulled via other planets in the correct fashion, but what was the exact reason for suspecting Venus of being from another parent system?

>>7798525
No idea.
That'd make for some cool fiction though

>>7798508
No

Any ideas on who flung the fat guy out of the rocky house?

Actually,are we sure it ain't a gas giant?

>>7798094
Liber gets my vote.

>>7797801
chuckled.

>>7798537
It's likely to be an Ice giant, Neptune and Uranus are of similar mass to it and they are Ice Giants. our Gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn are many times larger than Neptune and Uranus. It's possible it may be a Gas giant though.

We'll get to the meme planet with the meme drive, guys! What a time to be alive.

>>7798537
Jupiter and Saturn tag teamed it

>>7798546
Just like in my Classical Mythology!

>>7798525

No idea about Venus. I did read that one explanation for those unique, shiny ammonia deposits on Ceres is that she was formed outside our solar system.

>>7797990
Why not Prometheus/Vulcan? I guess there is the undesired Sci Fi thing (Ridley Scott and Star Trek) but it works from a mythology perspective.

>>7797979
The new planet needs to be a female planet because there's too many male planets. Juno is the next most prominent Roman goddess after Venus.

>>7798556
Vulcan is already taken.

>>7798561
Sounds too much like Jupiter. Plus, there's a probe going to Jupiter called Juno right now.

>>7798561
Oh fuck, the feminists are gonna have field day with this shit

>>7798072
Planets are named after gods, not places.

What spectrum would this thing be the easiest to see in? Visual? Infrared? I was reading earlier about JPL's WISE and how it looked at the entire sky but Planet Nine wouldn't be able to be seen by it. Would JWST be best suited to see it?

>planets orbit is around 20,000 years
>stone age ended around 20,000 years ago
>last glacial maximum was around 20,000 years ago

I'm sorry but it's definitely happening

>>7798573
Well,it is technically also a God.Like how Pluto is also called Hades,like his domain.

Can't we just rename old Pluto and give its name to the new planet?

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I'd be okay with Minerva (aka Athena).

>>7798582
Just use one of his other names.Gods tend to have more than one.

>>7797767
It should be called Nigga

>not Hades

Plebs

>>7798575
It would be brighter in the infrared but visible is easier to get deeper (because on the ground the sky is very bright in the infrared and there is really only one major infrared survey telescope).

JWST is poorly suited to finding it because it has a tiny field of view and it isn't well known where it is. It probably isn't that faint (if it exists) but just finding it would be a serious change.

THE CONFEDERATION OF LIGHT shield gonna block these hybrid goons off !

RA
R
A

BLUE AVIANS

It needs to either be a Greek Titan like >>7797990 said

Or, call it Ymir. Oldest Norse God, primordial Ice Giant who lives in the void. Murdered by three brothers.

>>7797993
this

>>7798591
pluto's already taken you manlet

If it really is a planet then it should be named after a Roman diety.

>not naming it Valhalla

I just realized planets are realms and space is the aether

How come when science discovers something religion has theorised since forever they give it a new name and act like it's something different? They're like
>SEE you were wrong cause it's not a realm it's a PLANET

If we ever find God scientists will call him something different just to claim theists are wrong.

It was called Nemesis ages ago already. This theory is not new, they just added more proof now. Its Nemesis.

>>7798699
>If we ever find God scientists will call him something different just to claim theists are wrong.
what happened to pluto then

>>7798579

Let's just name it Hades.

>>7798701
This isn't a Brown Dwarf.

Does that mean that astrology was wrong all along and that we're getting a new Sailor Moon character?

>>7798741
Its a gas giant much like Neptune most likely, not big enough to be brown dwarf. Doesnt make difference really, if its there, it will be Nemesis.

>>7798761
If you understand the nuances behind the name Nemesis, you would understand why it would have to be at least a Brown Dwarf.

>>7798772
It will be interesting to see if they find it. Its an old theory and finding it would be huge news. We dont know if there is something there or how large it is. Only fact is that it was called Nemesis so far even tho it was for brown dwarf as you said. Might end up as Nemesis in the end.

>>7798789
Again, it would need to be a low mass star to earn the name Nemesis.

>>7797683
As large as neptune, gaseous

>>7797648
frozen gas giant.

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>>7797883
Sure looks like it's clearing its orbit to me.

>>7797801
noice

Unrelated question, but is there an archive of /sci/?

That thread about portals seems to have disappeared. Did mods delete it?

>>7798373
Amen.

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>>7798955
Clearly false as the planet depicted is orbiting a binary star system.

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>>7798166
>>7797688

Dunno about diamonds, but it definitely storms something fierce on Neptune.

>400m/s

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If planets are named after Gods we should call it Haruhi

I don't think it is a planet just orbiting our sun. In fact, I don't believe it is orbiting at all. Do you think it is a coincidence we are just now discovering it? It is Jesus Christ on his path for the second coming. Be ready /sci/, I don't want you to be left behind.

>tfw this huge fucking planet is the reason for mass extinctions on planet earth
>tfw every 20k years it is closest to the sun and earth
>tfw every 20k years some fucked up shit happens to earth

Is this fucking planet the key to why life on our planet gets raped?

>>7798277
Buzzword + buzzword = science term you fucking pleb.

>>7798761
You don't know what is is you shitter

>>7799002
I don't think that the human species would have emerged out of the paleolithic and into the neolithic if mass extinctions occurred on Earth every 20,000 years.

>>7799016
Why not?

It could account for why our species is so fucking adaptable and dynamic.

>>7799002
The closest it gets to earth is ~200 AU, this isn't Nibiru.

>>7799024
So?

I bet this fucking thing once observed will be bigger than expected. The only thing we're seeing is a goddamn shadow so far.

The fact that something this large does get that close to our solar system raises the question of potential gravitational changes that could occur within our solar system.

>>7797590
>tfw a few decades from now it's discovered that the planet passes near the red dwarf star Nemesis, which turns out to have four planets orbiting it, one of which has oceans of liquid water on its surface

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Its Nibiru

>>7798158
It's orbital time period is more than 10,000 years. What's your point?

>>7799042
Nibiru is supposed to have a red tail.

Probably a gas giant being stripped of its atmosphere by a nearby star.

>>7799034
>The only thing we're seeing is a goddamn shadow so far.

Have you even read any of the articles published today?

>>7799042
see >>7799024

>>7799051
Nibiru was a comet.

>>7798334
4U

>>7799057
Comets don't have red tails!

Who decides the name?
Modern '''''''scientists''''''' would probably name him after the recent hip hop star.

>>7799068
Ringo Starr
or
Freddy Mercury

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>>7799068
>>7799072

>>7799068
There are already some officially proposed names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_fifth_giant_planet#Mooted_names

>>7799076
Scientists have already named a minor planet after Ringo Starr.

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>>7799068
>Another suggestion is "Thing 1" from Dr. Seuss' Cat in the Hat children's book.David Bowie

Planet Drake

>>7799084
meant for
>>7799077

It's a hoax by scientists to increase funding but really they spend it on cocaine.

>>7799111
I would have figured that scientists spent it on amphetamine or even methamphetamine.

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>>7797883
>mfw a gas giant is technically a dwarf planet

>>7799160
Why do you think it is a dwarf planet?

>>7799214
Because planets are supposed to have cleared their orbits of other bodies, while dwarf planets have not. This ninth planet may be a gas giant and appears to not have cleared its orbit of other bodies, and so therefore be a dwarf planet about the size of Neptune.

>>7797767
If all metrics and tests and calculations point to the thing existing but we never manage to actually see it, I propose naming it The Undiscovered Country

>>7797699
It's an artistic depiction of what the planet might look like.

If it turns out to be a gas giant, those bright lights within its atmosphere may represent storms.

>>7799240
Clearing its orbit means throwing off or eating any object not in a resonance with it, by your logic Neptune has not cleared its orbit.

>hidden planet is a massive perturber
reading this gave me a massive perturber

Who's to say that the alien civilization building this dyson sphere is biological. The original occupants of this system could have long ago created a super sentient AI which is now in charge of building this structure for its own expanding power needs. For the machines, this would seem very logical and they could dedicate their entire existence to harvesting resources to build this massive project.

We need to build a massive telescope of our own now to see exactly what the fuck is going on there. This could be our chance to actually confirm the existence of intelligent life outside of Sol.

>>7799389
Whoops, OK so this thread is now about KIC 8462852.

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>/a/ is talking about this
>suddenly spaceX
>>>/a/136385968

>>7797676
You could fit a thousand earths in Jupiter.

I have no thoughts. What does that mean?

>>7798591
>not using a germanic god like Wotan
superplebs

>>7798411
It's inferable, not exactly proven. It's more likely Dark Matter's going to be like Epicycles and Luminiferous Aether, on the plus side it means we're on the edge of a new scientific paradigm for astro and high energy physics.

Blog:

http://www.findplanetnine.com/

>>7799068
Damn, that other anon was right.

I should filter any more than 2 consecutive quotation marks.

Anyway I'm calling it now; the newest planet will be called Anita, after Women's Rights Activist Anita Sarkeesian.

>>7799059
if, for some reason, like sand, the atmosphere is full of red particles, it would have one.

>>7798334
4AU

>>7799441
I heard an interview on NPR and the guy who did the recent research was the Pluto guy and he already named a planet Biden after the vice president. So we're in for a ride.

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>>There are already people claiming this is nibiru or nemesis
>>There are already people saying it's going to collide with earth

>not naming it odyssey because it takes so long for it to orbit

>>7799449
You didn't listen very well, that was a nickname for one of the rocks out in Sedna's neighborhood because its number name started with VP.

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>>7799478
eh, I was driving. Thanks for the correction.

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>>7799240

>>7798160
>amarr

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Hey /sci/, lets start looking for it.

>>7799503
top image is planet nine's possible locations in the sky, red borders are the milky way, blue line = ecliptic

>>7797864

Into the trash this goes

>>7799497
J O I N
A L L
O U T

>>7799503
I work on imaging astronomy surveys and that's not something you're going to do on your own. That would take hundreds or even a couple thousand hours on a large survey telescope.

>>7797590
It's Nibiru or planet La-Metal.

>>7799529
yeah you could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, or you could just use your imagination
richfags BTFO

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>>7799529
You can save yourself some work. Pan STARRS and WISE has already ruled out some spots.

>>7797767
/sp/ here, time for POWER RANKINGS

Assuming it has to be a Greek/Roman God and the Trans-neptunian objects all tend to be named after gods of the dead/underworld:

Legit Cool Tier:
1. Hades
2. Persephone wife of Pluto/Hades
3. Hermes (also a messenger of the underworld, fits with the distance)
4. Erebus, God of Darkness

POWER GAP

100. Hera
101. Chronus
102. Mnemosyne
103. Aether

POWER GAP

9998. Ananke
9999. Nemesis

POWER GAP

9999999. Any more Hawaiian or other non western shit.

>>7798012

Implying it wont get an Arabic name for muh diversity.

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>>7798994
I'm okay with this.

i propose Jörmungand/Midgárðsormr for it's name.
The name comes from the huge snake in norse mythology that got tossed out into the outer sea by Odin, and now lies coiled around the world, so long it can bite it's own tail, and it dies when the end of all things comes.

how is this even possible
they are joking on us

>>7799461

>not wanting an apocalyptic event to transpire

What're you, a fag?

>>7797590
ITS A GIANT ALIEN SPACESHIP THAT DISTURBED THE GRAVITY SPACE TIME CONTINUUM OF THE PLANETOIDS. ALIENS ARE HERE.

>>7799094
FUCK DRAKE

They should call it Thanatos, just for the edge factor.

>>7798015
>Pluto isn't the main gravitational force of its orbit. Neptune is. Therefore, it can't be a planet.
That's really an arbitrary condition some guys in a room somewhere came up with to get the results they wanted.

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>>7797781
>Uranus

>>7799684
So is every other condition of being a planet, you silly nigger.

>>7799072
Planet Bowie

>>7799646
Nah just my life's pretty good, don't want it to end for a while yet.

>>7799691
That's precisely my point. Planet is thus a social construct, rather than a scientific classification.

>>7799559
Casting my vote for Erebus

>>7799559
>hades

Into the trash it goes. Pluto already exists faggots

>>7797990
Knowing that it's to be crowd sourced, we'll probably get some retarded meme tier shit like Halo or something.

I really like your idea. It makes absolute sense.

But if it looks like the sane choice won't win, I'll votejack to make it ayy lmao.

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>>7797652

Just to be sure, Michael Brown the astrophysicist is this guy.

>>7797794
>not neo Plutot

>>7797767
Large, cold, and the outcast of the solar system. Think we found the 4chan planet.

>>7799072
>>7799084

Space Oddity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o

>>7799771
>Knowing that it's to be crowd sourced, we'll probably get some retarded meme tier shit like Halo or something.

Planet Hitlerdidnothingwrong

>>7799559
>Assuming it has to be a Greek/Roman God

Not Greek. The planets have Roman names. Mercury, Venus, Ceres, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto are the Roman names for Hermes, Aphrodite, Demeter, Ares, Zeus, Cronus, Poseidon, and Hades, respectively.

>Planet X is real.

Well fuck me sideways.

What if this is the thing that passed between KIC 8462852 and us?

>>7799942
no

>>7799436
This desu senpai

>>7799559
Personally I'm partial to Hestia

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>>7800213

I wonder why?

>>7797636
Underrated post

>>7800221
Nothing too special of a reason. She's the least represented of all of Zeus's (or Jupiter's) siblings, and I like her name. Vesta would be better actually since all of the planets use the Roman names.

>>7797605
How is that shit even legal?

>>7797590
If it's [the current year] and we're just now discovering this fairly large body, then I wouldn't be surprised if there are more like it.

Hopefully one of them will have some geothermal action going on or something else that's cool.

>>7799907
Call it Mekka and we'll get instant interstellar manned exploration.

>>7799898
What are you, a fag?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo

Here, have the song sung in space.


>this achievement of mankind will have to be deleted off the internet in November 2016 because of IP rights
>actually, it should have been deleted two years ago but Bowie personally intervened

Whoever made the license for this video temporary should be thrown into the sun.

>>7799721
The same is true for every single other classification, from "species" to "continent".

>>7797590
f

>>7800297
Personally, I prefer the small words parody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygrdAvmr-MA

>this achievement of mankind will have to be deleted off the internet in November 2016 because of IP rights

Absolutely criminal.

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Name it Lucifer, like the "failed antimatter star" depicted in Yukinobu Hoshino's "2001 nights"

>>7800402
>That foul being which led man astray
How can man be held responsible for this? He had only just been created. It's silly.

>>7800449
The writer got it wrong. Satan didn't lead man astray with the fruit of a forbidden tree, it was just some talking snake.

>>7800455
So what happened to the snake?

>>7800476
It had its legs cut off and was forced to crawl on its belly.

Why the fuck the data describing that planet (I mean radius and period) are against 3rd kepler law? It's triggering my autism.

>>7800486
Did it have it's ability to talk removed?

>>7800455

The snake was Satan though. Serpents in general are often associated with Satan, even mythical ones like dragons and such.

>>7800575
It sure as fuck wasn't Satan in the original story. It's just a random snake there.

The bible is just a bunch of loosely connected stories.
You have god make Adam and Eve as a couple.
Then you have a similar story with different pacing, where Eve is made from Adam's rib.

Fun fact: In Genesys the entire universe is filled with water and "heaven" is a fortification that divides the water on earth from the water outside of earth.

And there's that one story where a king became best bros with a guy who's wife he almost raped because he was told she was his sister. He apologized when he found out that she was his wife.
Yes, raping someone's sister is apparently completely okay.

>>7800633

In Christianity it's Satan, in Judaism it's just a snake.

>>7800639
Must be one of those "the priests pretend that it's written in the bible" things.

>>7800644

It's just that Satan is portrayed as a serpent elsewhere in the Bible, so it's assumed by most Christians that he was the snake that fooled Eve in the Garden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpents_in_the_Bible#Temptation_of_Christ

So we need a Roman/Greek god who got exiled by Jupiter/Zeus.

>>7800501
to this day snakes can still talk
true story

>>7800910
>Implying snakes could walk back in the day

WE MUST NAME IT NIBIRU

>>7797960
what will this accomplish

>>7800647
>It's just that Satan is portrayed as a serpent elsewhere in the Bible, so it's assumed by most Christians that he was the snake that fooled Eve in the Garden.

I feel like this is why I started questioning my beliefs when I was 9 or 10. I grew up going to a Catholic school, which wasn't so bad because my other options were pretty awful schools, and boy did I get confused after a while. I was hardcore into religion but then I started questioning things because nothing added up to me or made sense. Then I'd have history class and religion class on the same day and.. you get the picture.

I wonder what happened in that period. In that one little period I could've changed course and been one of those people who were still religious but just because they were told to be, and I'd probably be on a different path in life.

>>7801210
I got confused when I first got exposed to American media and shit like the holy grail or the lance of longinus or the claim that Neon Genesis Evangelion supposedly has christian symbolism.
Took me a while to understand that there's actually a pop culture version of christianity that's completely unrelated to the contents of the bible.

In school we had religion lessons, where we read the bible and talked about the historical content as well as symbolism of the book. We also looked at other religions occasionally.