>>25527593 I dread getting a job where I'm living. I would have to face exs and old friends with nothing to show for it. I would rather wait for my parents to move in 6 months and start over somewhere else, even though I'll be halfway to 25, hopefully I will make it.
Just did. If you move out of your parent's place at 25, expect to get even more ridicule at your next family gathering than you usually do. It's like they just bottle it up for years only to release it when it feels "safe" to do so, no matter how fucked up their own lives were. But then they give you nice housewarming gifts and you move on and enjoy the crippling expenses of independence.
>>25527593 >no job >mom is disabled so I'd have to go home occasionally to help her out and all that shit Only legit reason to move out is if you're getting some pussy and I won't be getting that anytime soon. So why not take advantage of the free food, free rent and all that shit? Once I actually get a fucking job, most of my cash would stay in my pocket
>>25527593 where? I have no money and parents said they would not pay my rent. >just work I have absolutely zero work experience and even if I did work at mcdonals I wouldnt make enough to afford a room
Dunno, probably when I have something like $50,000 saved up. That should be a solid amount. I'm about halfway there. Living with parents is the best way to save up while working. Of course, I'd only recommend it if you get along with family like I do.
PRO >no rent >no bills outside car insurance/phone bill >free food >semi-regular home cooked meals >company of my parents/dogs
CONS >my parents are almost always home when sometimes I just want to be completely alone >above point also makes it so I can't bring women home (inb4 RRREEEEE) >normies make fun of me for still being with mum & dad
My parents still pay for my food and necessities, don't make me pay rent and I make like $15 an hour.
I wanted to move out so I could lose my virginity, have regular sex with sluts, do various illicit things like designer drugs, talk shit on xbox live chats (my parents don't let me use profanity which is fine because they never have, i cussing in front of my parents would be awkward.) etc and shit with the door open, maybe make a youtube channel and make sam hyde videos etcc
But really though I couldn't be bothered. I may still be a KV and shit but do I really care? No lol.
>>25527593 Because I'm not white. It's expensive to move out. Why bother? I don't want a bunch of obnoxious roommates, I enjoy the food and peace here, and my paychecks go entirely into my pocket, not into paying bills and barely having enough to survive until the next one
But it's mostly the congratulations that feel sharp because it's not really something to celebrate. It's embarrassing after they spent years asking when you were going to get your own place. I didn't buy a house, I'm renting a cheap shitty place they'd never want to sleep over in.
I also fully accept the possibility that I'm just being weird about this.
He's also forgetting health insurance, which would mean at least another 100-200 bucks a month, unless he opted to just go without and risk incurring massive medical debts later.
>26 >went to college, so lots of SL debt (38k) >can't find a job in my field because of lack of experience, shitty economic area, limited professional network; problem is compounded by the fact that I absolutely hate my field and every step towards employment is like stabbing myself in the scrotum >Unattractive 26 year old virgin, so getting laid isn't an option anyway
There seems to be so many young adult people living at home these days that I feel like the stigma will necessarily change. It's really only an American thing anyway.
I've only met one guy who gave me actual shit about it, and that guy lived in a rundown trailer with his obese fiancee and soon-to-be mother-in-law. As much as you guys talk shit about females, none of them has ever made me feel bad about living at home at my age; most seemed to think it was relatively normal. I know a bunch of guys and girls my age (25) still living at home around here.
Maybe I'm just less ugly/off-putting than I think, though, and that's why people are generally nice to me.
>>25529336 >problem is compounded by the fact that I absolutely hate my field and every step towards employment is like stabbing myself in the scrotum Holy shit, are you me? I'm the exact same place in my life, same age and everything
This U HAEV 2 LEAVE HOME IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS UR 17.9 YRS OLD thing is strictly american. I'm Canadian, 23, and most of my friends live at home unless they have reasons not to.
Personally, I moved out and have my own place downtown, but only because my parents are insane and I had to leave. Everyone else I know whose parents don't live in the fucking sticks lives at home. The people whose parents do live in the sticks often go home to visit when they have multiple days off in a row. Growing up, most of my friends lived with their parents (being fucking 12 and all) but their grandparents lived in the same house. I'm probably the only one of my friends who isn't getting laid, too. They just wait until their parents are out.
>graduate college in 2014 >(parents) live in bay area, one of the most expensive parts of the country to live >i have a horrible paying job ($15/hr) that is only supposed to be a bridge job before grad school >not applying for grad school because my grades werent good enough anyway, and i dont see the point if i will be a loser no matter what >have no idea what i will do for a real job because all my schooling was working towards grad school >pay parents $400/month for rent and have horrible relationship with them >no friends either just like when i was here in high school, also permavirgin
My parents aren't rich and I don't have any lucrative skills.
In all honesty there's nothing I'd be doing independently that I'm not already doing living at my parent's place anyway. I don't know anyone that is living independently outside of school either. Anyone who owns an apartment does so so with three or so other people, hardly "independent". It seems pretty rare to be truly independent as an early 20-something nowadays.
>>25530289 Psych, the only other subject I was remotely interested in was English but I'm fucking sick of academia and teaching is pretty all you can do with an English degree. Maybe I'll do some marketing shit or something, I dunno
Anyway, you going to make it, man. Government jobs are pretty secure
>tfw in such a shit situation economically, you can hardly maintain a car and feed yourself (mother is an alcoholic/never cooks anymore/ always bitches when you use the kitchen, and dad is at work the whole week and only lives at home on the weekend.)
>>25530630 Nah, the efficiency argument I'd call it as long as your parents are great and interesting people and give you your privacy and some pocket money (on top of the money i get from little part time jobs). Very comfy. Sorry bro that your parents are that shitty (probably poor) and dysfunctional that you had to move out so early. But hey at least you are "independent" and a real man.
>>25530821 In the long run, you will be poor and miserable and I will be glorious and successful with a graduate degree in a scientific field and subsequently get a fantastic job, a cute East Asian gf with a high IQ, and eventually I will buy my own house. You will be a renter, perhaps even sharing a house/apartment with other "real men", your entire life.
>>25530630 Let's be real dude, if a person isn't earning at least $20/h and or has more than 2 roommates, it's not that affordable to get your own place. My big sister tried to but she gets shit hours and has school, insurance and a car to pay for. She was in a ghetto complex too. This generation is fucked
>>25531072 >Not even black >Live in Canada (don't know what terrible hell you live in, $11.25 is the entry level in Can/US) >Implying you don't need good experience, connections, or even go to a school to get those jobs
>>25529981 My dad works hard labour and my mum was a nurse.
The only jobs in my dead end down are retailcuck jobs that earn just slightly above min wage. Between tons of people moving here and the chinese buying all the properties, the average rent rose from $500/mo to $750/mo and is continually rising
>>25531400 No ones saying they don't get good jobs. But they're JOBS. They're employees. And within the departments they actually work in they're the low man on the totem pole. They don't start at the top. No one hands an entry level kids with no experience the keys to the car.
28 here, and moved back to the folks' after 5 years on my own, because it's insane trying to survive as an artist with no professional ambition. working from home, saving moi cents. it's been a year and counting. the plan is to get out of here this coming fall but where to go/ what the plan is exactly remains elusive. i've become rather disconnected from the world and people in that time.
The only way I'd survive is with roommates but unfortunately all of my friends are already moved out living with each other, recently moved back home or live with their gfs and I don't want to move in with a stranger.
You have to get one in the first place, though. It's also the most boring, dull, ridiculously bureaucratic field in existence. Breathing in a government building probably requires six different permits from as many different government entities to be legal.
Dear fuck, I just want this nightmare called life to end itself.
>>25531730 and then what if you want to do something that requires additional funding, time and space, like say, make a films, or record music? things that culture needs, and society needs. in a sense, maybe selfless endeavors, or generous at least. but at a certain point the only way to even approach doing so is to give up any possibility of non-robot life. that's moi story. that's largely why i still live at home and rarely leave the house.
Part of being normal is having precisely the callous, laugh at the lesser, attitude in his post.
Also, being normal means that you end up in an office filled primarily with friends, with the realization that this is all that matters and the willingness to gang up and enforce the rules of who gets to stay in the cool club.
In other words, for 4chan type males like myself, the real world amounts to nothing more than high school social dynamics, except now those high school bullies and bimbos have total control over your life and earnings.
>>25527593 Too early, am only 21 and I haven't finished college. I need to disciple myself. Until I can upkeep my room regularly, cook for myself regularly, go outside regularly, get a good paying job then I can move out.
I remember one of my relatives mother bought her son's apartment, and he always was short on rent till he was close to being kicked out, he didn't finish school and worked dead end jobs till now he got evicted and moved back with his mom at age 40. A person needs discipline and stability before becoming independent.
>>25532278 High School is practice for the real world. It's a social playground where there is fewer consequences for being socially adept because teenagers change their identity, looks, behavior, friends, gf/bf, every month, year or so and have fewer responsibilities than adults. Nobody really takes it that seriously. How you did in high school is a prediction of how you are going to do in life. Your work ethic, your relationships with others, etc.
But once you turn 18 certain things and etiquette you are expected to know. The responsibilities and consequences are greater.
I did, OP! A year ago! And at the young age of 27! Did it with two roommates. But then they couldn't get jobs and ended up moving out. After blowing through almost my entire savings, I've finally got shit settled out and am starting to slowly save money again. I'm an adultman now, doing adult stuff.
>>25533101 I disagree if that was the case, there would be a lot more fuckups in the world because they couldn't grow and mature after the age of 18. Its difficult to expect an 18 year old to have it all figured out and to act accordingly for what will set the pace of his or her life
>>25527804 >the I look like Chad and am working to attain the perfect body >tfw breaking the stereo type Still a virgin who lives in his parents basement though, I've gone full /g/. Been working on a pet project of mine involving a banana pi pro.
>both parents lost their jobs sometime last April >helping them cover rent with what they had in savings >step mom couldn't job hunt right away due to doctors orders (she just had finished cancer treatment) >she just got a job at a hospital about 3-4 months ago >dad finishing trade school, should be done within the next two months >when they're both set on money again they'll start paying me back >the whole time I'm helping support them with with $800 a month on Walmart minimum wage
I did move out. I found rent was exorbitant and I was barely scraping by. I lost my job, had a mental breakdown and was forced to move back in with my parents. I since went back to uni and finished my degree, got a slightly better job, and I'm saving hella money. I lived with friends, I partied, I burned out. Now I'm not leaving again till I have enough for a home deposit (unless I blow it all travelling).
I'd rather my income not finance wealthy boomer's retirements. I pay my parents a low level of rent to cover my costs and that's it. It's not even that bad. I get an end of the house to myself to do more or less what I want, home cooked meals, my own bathroom. I couldn't possibly get this level of comfort by renting.
Because I'm a poor broke spaniard with unstable jobs and because the housing market here is fucking bananas when it comes to prices. I blame old people buying a second or even third house with their pension to rent it or resell it for mad speculated dosh.
>>25535815 Yeah most people aren't NEETs but that doesn't mean we want to give our money to jew landlords. I have a job but why put myself in a situation where I can't even save a fraction of it when my parents already don't have to worry about shit like that and can save and let me stay for free? You don't move out as soon as you're the state majority age (this nigga probably don't even know why 18 is the legal age) you move out when you are able.
I'm moving out this year. I don't want to but I don't really have a choice since my mum and her bf want to move away somewhere together, and I'm a 20 y/o manchild so they're sick of my shit. I also hate their guts so it checks out.
Mummy IS going to buy a lease on a studio flat for me though, so I'm grateful for that. But once I move out I plan to cut all contact and start anew.
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