So be honest.
How fucked is this guy after his New York comments? His wife works on Wall St. and he holds fundraisers in Manhattan.
People are saying this was his Howard Dean moment.
Cruz assumes his holy-roller biblethumper hick voterbase is too stupid to know he's such a corrupt like Establishment prick owned by the Wall Street banker criminals and is neocon astroturf laid over Ron Paul's EX-party (Ron Paul quit it when the billionaires and their media puppets began crowning shits like Cruz and Palin as the TEA Party's "leaders" while completely freezing out the Pauls)
Hopefully even they can recognize what a rat-faced disingenious weasel Cruz is, while Trump is the image of a true Crusader.
Rumor has it that Ted Cruz was seen among the crowd of Muslims celebrating after 9/11.
Can we talk about how perfect it was of Trump to pull the 9/11 card there? I know that "muh 9/11" is a meme, but holy fuck Trump was the perfect person to actually mention that since he was actually there and worked on rebuilding after 9/11. I was feeling like Trump was going to be stumped by Cruz mentioning New York's lack of values, but that pretty much completely turned it around.
he's just filthy
and his dad is voting donald
Cruz dug his grave here.
Why,Trump is greater then Hillary and Bernie!
It was an idiotic move to being with. He even insulted Maria the moderator by saying "it doesn't surprise me you don't get it." Notice how he kept saying New York "isn't Iowa or New Hampshire". Well no shit, but you don't ostracize a state with 31 electoral votes to make that point.
I'm still failing to understand why his comment was a big deal. People NYC are fucking socialist retards, their values consist of wasting money on ineffective social programs and spending my entire 23 year life letting incompetent, overpriced unions fix the same god damn bridge.
The only people who care about criticizing "New York Values" are delusional liberals and dindus in the city. As someone living on Long Island I wish we could secede from this cesspool state.
I'm conflicted on this.
First: He absolutely did it beautifully. I can honestly say I've never seen someone play the 9/11 card more effectively. It's true, it was perfect and he couldn't have responded to the situation any better.
On the other hand, I still feel it's somewhat cheap anytime a politician uses 9/11 to gain political points. Because it is so easy to do. It's almost impossible to be viewed negatively when you start talking about 9/11. It's easy points and you can look at many times (there was one Republican convention where each speaker said 9/11 several dozen times a piece) where it's just used as a cheap emotional ploy. It was still a cheap ploy here. But oh fuck, did Trump play it perfectly.
He basically said New York was shit and had terrible values in order to
Trump would be shit.
Trump played 9/11 card. It was super effective!
Cruz clapped like a cuck, because what was he going to do at that point? Bash 9/11 too?
It's quite literally his Dean moment and has begun to spread across the media already at a massive rate.
Cruz is tigerfucked more than anyone knows.
that's not a very good look for cruz was he having a bad hair day here ?
It was a masterful play, but probably honest since he's literally New York City in human form.
Because you dont fucking ostracize millions of people when you need their vote to win the election you brain dead cunt why are republicans so fucking retarded
I actually moved here from upstate NY after college. You'd be surprised though, most Long Island kids make their big escape to go to college in Westchester, the real daring ones go as far as Poughkeepsie, and then move back in with their parents until they are 30 it seems. I wholeheartedly think anything south of Dutchess County is beyond saving at this point.
Trump>Cruz>Rubio>Christie>Carson>Kasich>Jeb after that debate. I think Cruz did fairly well overall, and definitely came off as the most well-spoken even though he got BTFO once by Trump and once by Rubio.
no we do care about it as he makes us who don't live in the City seem just as delusional as those who do, its annoying and we don't like it.
People in NYC are too greedy to be socialist, they just be Democrat for social reasons.
Ted was trying to imply that Trump would be a demo, the main reason Cruz is fucked right now is because he walked directly in Trump's 9/11 trap card, which is going to be awful for his numbers.
Leave New York and move to fucking Iowa you square. Post-war Long Island Republicans are finally being exposed as some of the mks corrupt politicians in the state's history. Long Island east of five towns and great neck is filled with half retarded red necks that cheated their way through high school. Its a miracle they figured out a way to make money through corrupt politicians, mafia, and car dealerships or it would be no different than upstate
It's funny, I really liked Cruz up until this debate. He just came across as a slimy snake oil salesman, especially with the clapping after what Trump said. I understand he wants to win but the way he debated just felt dishonest as fuck.
But Trump does have a chance of winning NY hes fucking from there also NY wasnt the only state effected by 911 the whole country went to war after that the so he just fucked himself big time
With Cruz, you lose!
Some people interpreted his anti New York comment as Anti-Semitic.
The liberal media is going to go nuts tomorrow.
He got BTFO. Whatever momentum he did or did not have over the birther argument was immediately BTFO by Trump pulling the 9/11 card and Rubio beating his ass further.
Trump has taken down everyone on the field, one by one. But after tonight Rubio is going to rise like crazy. The next debate is 5 days before voting begins; if Trump can kill him in that debate like he killed Cruz tonight then he may actually be unstoppable.
Earlier today or yesterday Cruz attacked Trump in the press by saying that Trump represented "New York values" and that instead of playing springsteen's Born in the USA that Trump should play the song "New York, New York".
The insinuation being that New York is very liberal and not as "American" as places like Iowa and New Hampshire.
Trump BTFO'd Cruz by bringing up 9/11 and saying that the spirit the people showed on that day and after was singularly unique and one of the reasons why New York is the greatest city in the world. Trump also brought up how visceral the attacks were in NYC specifically and how he worked on rebuilding after the attacks.
It was basically a "how fucking dare you insult New York we were attacked on 9/11 nothing represents America like New York does back the fuck off you weasely fuck New York IS America it is the greates American city and you shit on NYC you shit on America"
Cruz applauded sincerely at Trumps response.
His campaign is over.
Trump made very good points about being 110% sure he's legally eligible to run.
And you can just see Cruz squirm when he realizes that Trump has a good point.
Guaranfuckingteed those constitutional lawyers are going to find out that Cruz is ineligible.
I personally don't give a fuck. And I'm born and raised NYC.
The way I see it, anyone that was going to vote for him that is from NYC isn't gonna care anyway.
I swear, is it only libs who care about stupid comments like this?
Oh, "New York values" boo fucking hoo hoo. Who the fuck cares?
Cruz didn't gain any voters for the GOP by attacking "New York values". Rural Americans who hate NYC will vote GOP regardless. The party needs someone like Trump who can sway urban & suburban independents and moderates.
>Born and raised in Westchester
>Moved to North Carolina for College
>Had to move back in with my parents last year
WHY DID I LEAVE NORTH CAROLINA?
NOW I'M STUCK HERE FOREVER. THIS PLACE IS A FUCKING BUBBLE THAT NO ONE GETS OUT OF.
m8, there's like 3 dozen lawyers investigating Cruz's eligibility already.
And now that this is going to be every sound bite in America tomorrow, that number is going to go into the hundreds.
Cruz is fucked.
MY MOTHER'S FROM SCOTLAND
OOOOH BORN IN JAMAICA MON
You're missing the point idiot. You don't think Tribe is going to be one of Hillary's buddies calling for an investigation on Cruz's legitimacy? That's the point Trump is trying to make.
Not very fucked. Trump made him look like a fool, but he still looked significantly less foolish than anyone else during the debate (barring Trump, of course). He'll still be sitting pretty in second place in the coming weeks.
To be fair NYC is a liberal cesspit, however alot of it has to do with the politicians running the city and not all to do with the people residing there.
This attack would have possibly worked against a career politician from NYC trying to run, however as we have seen many times Trump is not a career politician which makes trying to stump him with the geopolitical angle a whole other animal.
I sincerly doubt Trump approves of the way the city is ran or would have the back of any of the disgusting libshits that run it.
It will be an uphill battle, but once he's got the nomination and he's campaigning all over the city, things might change. People here are sick and tired of being scared about losing their jobs, of not being able to take a chance on a new job or working for themselves, just like everyone else in the country.
We had the luxury of being left as fuck here for a long time because a lot of people were very comfortable and even more of us were having fun. It's easy to swing left when you've got nothing serious to worry about. Increasingly it's not like that anymore.
Top kek, dubs. He looks cool like Mr. Blonde. He's like, "don't worry someone will make America great again.". 15 years later he's like, "Fuck it! I'll do it myself."
Get Cruz's small cock out of your mouth for a second and read between the lines.
>Cruz somehow wins
>Hillary and her buddy Tribe put together a case that puts ANY doubt about Cruz's eligibility
>Cruz spends entire campaign defending himself
Trump is making a move saying that he will have a black cloud over his head and he should get it remidied.
>Do you seriously fall for his schtick?
He walks like a duck and talks like a duck
If he wasn't going for "good ole' boy" points he wouldn't have tried to sound like he was 2 seconds away from saying "dem dang yankees"
Trump isn't super snappy with comebacks unless it's at Jeb.
Cruz is like a super smart fact viper. Trump needs him on his team but the Canada thing ruins it. We all knew Cruz meant liberals in nyc. Trump just should have said that conservatives don't come from canada and brushed it off.
I think Cruz looks like pic related. Which is doing a horrible disservice to pic related.
Isn't New York filled with the most worst people in the world? Isn't it the butt end of every joke because of how shitty the people are?
Trump pandered to New York about how bad 9/11 was.
There are too many New Yorkers on /pol/ for /pol/ to abjectly hate it. /pol/ hates certain parts of NYC, specifically Union Square (ever seen any stupid bullshit socialist/SJW picture taken in a park in NYC? It was taken there, 9 times out of 10,) the ridiculously Jewish parts of Brooklyn, and the non-white parts of the city.
Hey guys, we are all homos....... homosapiens
CANADIANS WERE DANCING IN THE STREETS ON 9/11
Pic related, the flag of the Ḥashashīn
Not true. Pee Wee had smaller lifts.
The way he talks here is almost exactly the same way he talks now with the same mentality. I was against Donald Trump initially because he seemed like he was flip flopping and potentially fake. Seeing this makes me feel like he's far more genuine than I believed.
Well, only his mother had full US citizenship. His father is straight up spic from Cuba.
So they could find proof in the Constitution that both parents need to be US citizens, not just one.
>inb4 getting married makes you a citizen
Cruz's fellow law students have said he would refuse to study with any students who didn't attend Harvard Princeton or Yale undergrad. In no way is Cruz down to earth. In no world is he the simple farm boy he pretends to be.
As the media has shown its not just what Cruz says that matters, it's what the media reports. Cruz is not the Donald. His campaign is mortal, and the insane spin to come may nuke Cruzs campaign once and for all
Reminder it was New Yorkers who told people to go back into the south tower.
Reminder it's New Yorkers who screwed a lot of people during the recession.
Reminder it's New York who is the liberal bastion of the world.
Reminder any New Yorkers who vote for Cruz or are conservative hate New Yorkers.
New York-hating Kentuckyfag. That was beautiful. And humbling.
>muh culture wars
Wow it's like it's 2004 all over again.
The extra bits from this commercial that were released are kind of disturbing, he's basically ordering his family around to make himself seem like a loving family man, especially his mom
I remember he wanted to rebuild the twin towers exactly the same, only bigger.
I always though that we should have done that. I like the current building, and it's lucky we didnt end up with one of the original designs that were all modern art garbage, the current one looks like the originals a bit, but it's still just one building. we should have added 2. make twin freedom towers. I always thought he was right on the money there. nothing wouldve said resilience more than just putting them back up again, but better
Sure he wouldn't win NY anyway. But I bet this will make him lose even more in the NH primary. And it won't help him with republican reps in the rest of the state. He already has too many enemies in his own party.
To be fair, Juan Pablo, New York City is quite large and Mr. Trump does not represent us all. In fact, most people who live in NYC would not agree with Mr. Trump on a lot of things. That said, I don't think anyone from New York and the Tri-State area would disagree with a word The Donald said in OP's video, which I think was the point.
I don't even like cruz you fucking cuck
>if anyone has the right to pull it, it's trump
why? because you like him?
>he did it artistically
he did it in response to an attack that talked about new york's leftist politics, it had nothing to do with it
as if adding details is artistic
what the fuck is wrong with you people, you like the same shit the plebs like, theater trash
everything else in this thread is bantz. Adams gets it.
That's called a stereotype, and it probably has a lot to do with the entertainment industry being based in Los Angeles. I've lived in NYC for 12 years now, and I can probably count on two hands the times people have been rude to me without cause. Even the guy who mugged me was pretty nice.
Here's the difference, Trump was actually part of 9/11 and happened to his home town. These other politicians couldn't give two shits about NYC, at least Trump shows loyalty to his home.
>doesn't know most people hate new york
it's literally just because you like trump
>trump was part of 9/11
and? so was guliani and he's just as much of a faggot when he pulls it
>trump was part of 9/11
how does that make it a proper retort to Cruz's attack?
it doesn't, it's literally the epitome of pulling the 9/11 card for political points
nobody here cares about new york. The point is that Cruz undeniably fucked up by rambling on about shitty people and the city are for 30 seconds which is about two years when you're speaking aloud. To further his fuck-up Trump, who is the fucking king of New York took a giant 9/11 dump on his chest and then forced him to eat it. It was fucking humiliating by any measure and doesn't have anything to do with liking new york or not.
>he did it in response to an attack that talked about new york's leftist politics
you don't get it
Cruz *MEANT* politics, he *SAID* "VALUES". Fuck what he meant, focus on what he said, and said repeatedly.
Donald pointed out that NY "VALUES" including banding together in the face of tragedy almost immediately, and coming back better than before, which is a "VALUE" every state in the union finds admirable.
He turned Cruz's shitty jab into a soundbite that will have him reeling for weeks.
>why? because you like him?
Because 9/11 showed the country that New York was perfectly capable of acting American when provoked. New Yorkers wanted blood after 9/11, and they wanted to plant an American flag in the corpse of whichever fuckers were culpable for blowing up the Towers. New Yorkers wanted to rebuild the towers but bigger and better, just to spite the stupid fucks who thought they could come in and fuck the joint up.
Trump brought all of that back to the forefront by basically calling Cruz a motherfucker and a cocksucker for daring to suggest that New York City is un-American.
Usually when 9/11 is brought up, it's to say something about weak defense or Islam or Bush or whatever. Trump brought it up as his hometown coming together and rebuilding it quickly (which they did).
He basically called New York (a city to which Cruz himself is intimately connected) shit in order to score some cheap faux tea party points. Trump played the 9/11 card to show that New York and New Yorkers were not shit and that Cruz was a gigantic faggot.
no, it was his delivery dipshit, and it still didn't answer cruz's attack
/pol/ is a brainwashed shithole right now, I can't wait for the election to be over. You people are like leftists
Basically calls New York, Jew York
/pol/ is now extremely butthurt, reddit tier buttblasted in fact. This board is so retarded it went full SJW while at the same time professing to be something else
the plain fact that he is not a natural born citizen. he is naturalized at birth, at best, and thats only if his mother actually had US citizenship when he was born.
Natural Born only applies to born on US Soil. A Military base or US territory, counts as American Soil. An Embassy, counts as US Soil.
being born to a possibly American parent in Canada, does not.
on that grounds alone he is ineligible, but nobody was paying attention because lawyers in support of him were picking and choosing from ENGLISH law, which has precedents onthat sort of thing. Not US Constitutional law, which clearly denies him the presidency.
>New York City is un-American
New York City IS unAmerican my kike friend. But I guess guns being illegal, massive taxes, faggots, niggers, Jews and random police frisks are what America is all about.
>cruz talking about new york leftist values
he was very clearly talking explicitly about it being leftist
>trump responds saying they banded together after a tragedy
again has nothing to do as a response to it being a leftist shithole
>Your values include beating your kids and killing people
>Yea well I have christian values and I support the troops
you must not even know what a rebuttal is
what did they do that wasn't leftist after 9/11?
>capable of acting american
what the fuck does that actually mean?
We hate the government of New York, not the city. It's still part of the United States.
You retarded inbred hicks with your evangelical zionist turdwipe of a candidate may have a stick up your ass about other parts of the country, and decry them, but the rest of us merely seek to improve them and make the country greater than it is now.
That's the difference between an American and a retard.
You can own guns in NYC, this isn't Chicago you stupid fuck. This is also where faggots first showed they were willing to step the fuck up and mangle some faces for what they believed in, and even though I don't fucking agree with what they believe in, I accept that sacking up and fighting for your beliefs is American.
The nigs are being driven out to the suburbs and have been since...well, since 9/11 now that I think about it. The cops don't frisk whitey ever. I can't defend Der Juden, but who the fuck can?
First thing is Trump singled out Manhattan. Second It was more of a response to the crowd rather than Cruz and it was a defensive maneuver, you have to understand. These are the same people who would applaud anything involving 9/11 - it's practically the core of modern neocon politics. Trump sees this - knows how utterly ridiculous it is for these people to be bashing the city they constantly put on a pedestal when convenient for them - and shuts it down.
New York City is a city in that state.
New York is the entire state.
The super liberals you hear about from New York City, everyone calls the rest of the state Upstate New York. They are culturally different you dingus, there are a lot of conservatives up there.
>b-b-but what he MEANT made sense!!!
I recommend that you not pursue a career in political debate.
Cruz did kind of good defending himself on his birth, but then he imploded.
New York destroyed him, and i thought he was going to start crying when he was stammering.
Was really retarded move.
And he broke some. I literally saw a man shrink before a Lion. And Trump ate him.
>Trump sees this - knows how utterly ridiculous it is for these people to be bashing the city they constantly put on a pedestal when convenient for them - and shuts it down.
This. He even got fucking Cruz to start clapping along like an idiot.
>to show that new york isn't shit
except it is, and showing strength after an attack has nothing to do with political values, aka didn't rebut cruz
>cheap tea party points
except new york is a leftist shit hole, and trump is a leftist that perfectly represents said shithole
He's completely lost the state of New York, and possibly all of New England.
It's not just he shit on New York, but he basically told the whole country "The south is the only real America" and or "The rest of the country hates New York"
To an extent he is right, because New York is the second hated place after California,
But you don't go and say the whole truth on tv, especially if you're running for president.
I mean we all hate niggers, but you don't go on tv and say it.
And the way Trump hit back, means he's fucked, because Trump spun it as "Ted Cruz doesn't give a shit about 9/11"
Trump could have hit harder and said that Rudy Giuliani was a Republican.
Yeah, make our country greater by electing a governor who says that pro-life people, pro-marriage people, pro-gun people do not belong in your state. By passing the most inane gun laws in the nation. By having some of the highest taxes in the nation.
I'm glad I live in America, NY sounds awful.
Section 1, Article 2
>No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
of course, this brings up the debate of just what "Natural born" means. generally, it tends to be taken to mean "naturally born on US soil" while someone born on foreign soil to a US citizen, is considered naturalized at birth, but not Natural-Born
>again has nothing to do as a response to it being a leftist shithole
>I write off entire groups of people because I don't agree with them politically so they must not have any redeeming value
nigger, stop shitposting and go take Ted's shoelaces and belt away from him
>the government not the city
the government is elected retard
>the rest of us seek to improve the country
and the average new yorker's version of improving the country is making it more leftist
>Believing that NY has a prayer of going red
>Not knowing NY is winner-take-all anyways
>Thinking that bashing liberal socialists like Bloomberg and his ban on large sodas doesn't play well in Middle America
This is kinda why I hate the internet. Any dumb faggot can hop on here and spew complete shit without knowing anything. Here I am over here with my relevant degree like... how retarded can you faggots possibly be?
Time to go back to watching reality TV and smoking pot, you stupid normie faggot. It's election season and suddenly you're some kind of expert? Fuck you.
>All the fly over staters in this thread not seeing this GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to unite behind the Meme Emperor and get NYC to support THIER BOY and flip red
CAN YOU TURN OFF YOUR TEA PARTY RACISM FOR FUCKING ONE SECOND, I'M HERE IN THIS BULLSHIT CITY DOING MY BEST TO GIVE THESE IDIOTS MEDICINE AND YOU HAVE TO BE STEREOTYPICAL "WELL CRUZ IS RIGHT ANYWAY FUCK THEM THAR LIBDEMNIGGERSPICLESBIANFEMINISTAS, THEY WOULDN'T VOTE FOR HIM ANYWAY"
PLEASE, JUST ONE SECOND SO I CAN CONVINCE THE FUCKING MORONS AROUND ME
New York will vote red
You really think they're going to vote for this rancid cunt after Trump said that?
so what you're saying is that trump was being obtuse purposefully and not answering Cruz question in favor of something retards would like
that's what I've been saying
>implying cruz had a choice
>wife works at Goldman Sachs for a decade
>Goldman Sachs loans Cruz +1M dollars for his senate compaign
>dem beeg citay New York bankerz dont share muh values
yeah thats a winner
exactly. its considered that they dont have to go through the hoops foreign hopefuls do, they get citizenship automatically, but are still considered, under the law, the same as paco next door, who just got his citizenship last week.
Are you actually dead in the head?
"Not a lot of conservatives in new york"
"He's a few names and 9/11 happened and i am offended and I <3 newyork."
The fact that you retards think this was a good play with the muh 9/11 card just shows how retarded you are.
New York City is pretty much the only thing keeping NY from going Republican. If you flip a million votes across Brooklyn, Bronx, and Manhattan counties, that'll flip the whole state.
I directly refuted that. I literally SAID (not meant you stupid motherfucker) that new york's values are leftist, and that was what is wrong with new york.
Not that they're pussies, not that they're unamerican.
in fact what he MEANT was that they were unamerican
fucking kill yourself shill
Bloomberg is the very definition of moderate independent. he's fiscally quite conservative, but socially liberal. (liberal, mind you, not progressive like the current wet noodle)
The 9/11 card is always retardedly effective when at a debate even when used poorly, like it was here. Just look at when Hilary used it to defend getting her funding from wallstreet.
probably actually. She's also from NY, so theres that. and NY is full of liberal urbanites.
Staten island is literally the only conservative, Republican bastion in an almost entirely liberal city
And thats just the Republican part of it.
The liberals, niggers, and jews, will see it as
Lots of jews in New York, so Anti-New York means Anti-Semetic
Lots of niggers in New York, so Anti-New York means racist
Lots of immigrants come through New York, so Anti-New York means anti-immigrant
Gay pride flourishes in New York, so Anti-New York means you hate gays.
Liking North Carolina values mean you like southern values, the south wanted to keep slaves, so you're pro-slavery
Niggers were/are hanged in the south, you like the south, so you're racist.
Gay people aren't accepted in the south, you like the south so you hate gay people
The KKK is from the south, you're from the south, you're in the KKK.
If he had simply said, New York is not known for its conservative values, or just for being conservative, that would have been fine, and it would have been another jab that Trump is a fake republican.
But no, he had to add/say it as "New York values and North Carolina/Southern values are different!, and southern values are best!"
Not to mention he alienated the entire youth vote. How many people in their 20s and 30s do you see with pointless I <3 NY t shirts, ball caps, bumper stickers, etc? I say this as someone who lives in Kansas, btw.
well it worked, didnt it? Cruz had to clap along like a sea lion, and now everyone is bashing him while praising Trump's defense of NY. Even Liberal media, is supporting Donald Trump's comments against Cruz.
think about that
>entire groups of people
are you serious? do you know what an election is?
cruz wasn't talking about every single fucking person
>they must not have any redeeming value
you are such an obtuse cunt it's unbelievable
you are making the not all muslims argument right now, do you understand that? are you now aware of your doublethink?
The fact that the presidency is the only office in American you cannot hold without being a natural born citizen tells you quite a bit about the degree of restriction it was intended to place upon the office. You could be born to an American soldier abroad, be naturalized and live your entire life essentially outside of the US. You share nothing culturally or nationally with the US except a piece of paper that says your mom/dad was an American. Then you can come back and preach your own brand of crazy here in the highest executive office in the land. This is precisely what it was designed to prevent. This is precisely the reason this rule applies to the chief executive and no other office.
Natural born means born inside the United States [get fucked D.C., P.R. and US Territory] to at least one American parent.
New York is blue no matter what. Trump's comments are significant because he made Cruz look like an anti American foreigner in front of the entire nation--Jew York notwithstanding. Swing states will now heavily lean in his favor.
>believing anything he says
Fool. He could be a 100% hardcore patriot who is dedicated to the constitution, but he still owes a lot of money to Jews. He doesn't get a say over anything he does. If he was elected he'd still pass net neutrality legislation.
The list of candidates capable of cobbling together a victory has shrunk now and is now just Donald Trump's name with everyone else crossed out.
This must make Karl Rove nervous, along with half the pundits at FOX and the entire Bush family.
>be married to Goldman Sachs
>criticize others for having 'new york values'
>doesn't mean anything
The was people from New York don't have values. On the most chaotic, terrifying day on American soil, New York didn't chimp out, didn't puss out, and showed rock solid character and bravery. It is a perfect example of New York values. So it is relevant.
I hate New York, and I am sick of them dictating everything to the rest of the country, but they aren't all immoral faggots.
You missed the first part where he said to the moderator from NY "Well you're from New York so you might not" when she asks about NY values. It's basically saying people from New York are immoral pigs with no values at all.
Trump used his time to address that. The fact that it was actually such a dumb thing for Cruz to say pretty much overshadows his comment about Trump's values, and Trump highlighting and condemning Cruz for that part of his statement pretty much got everyone's attention away and has Cruz fucked in the eyes of New York (more so than before). Not only this, but him saying something so stupid so smugly could be pointed out and argued that Cruz might make a colossal fuck-up if he becomes the nominee and hand the election to Hillary or Hernie.
Trump dodged the question but it was incredibly masterful. The pattern's basically going to continue now - Attack Trump, go down.
And then if Trump is actually asked about the underlying question in Cruz's statement, he'd play it off the same way he did when asked about his past great relationship with the Clintons - "My job was to be a world-class businessman, you can't be so conservative when dealing with all kinds of different people with different beliefs and values. You just can't."
>be naturalized and live your entire life essentially outside of the US
you also have to be a resident for 14 years. so you could still be born in the US, live in canada for most of your life, then return and 14 years later run for president
>[get fucked D.C., P.R. and US Territory]
those count though. a US Territory is considered US soil, very much the same way US military bases and embassies are considered US soil. John McCain was born in panama, when it was a territory, so he counts as Natural Born.
Goldwater was born in what was it, Arizona? when that was a territory. so he counts as well.
>people in NY are bad people, and you are probably a bad person too
>The people of NY are actually very strong and caring as evident by the 9/11 attacks which I witnessed first hand.
This means everything, keep slobbering up Cruz's semen, bitch.
It really did though. If you bothered to read my post you'll see that's what I was saying. Cruz directly talked shit about the kinds of people that hail from New York and Trump reminded him and retards such as yourself that the people from New York are actually pretty great. He cited 9/11 as an example because it caused unprecedented turmoil but also managed to bring New York closer together.
Are there any better examples of New York coming together during rough times? No, so neck yourself.
I saw the cruz missile coming and could only say oh no.. don't do it cruz.. then he did and he paid the price..
I've just come to realize how much it is true if you go after trump you go down
>On the most chaotic, terrifying day on American soil
I know like most New Yorkers you are probably a foreigner but my ancestors were in New York when it fell to the British so it wasnt even the worst day for the city
I'm saying it works for both camps. Those that eat up the 9/11 shit at every opportunity will applaud, but it makes sense against these people as well for the reasons I said. I think it's independent of the actual values of New York because it wasn't a question by Cruz, it was a statement and one that doesn't even make sense. The implication being that Trump can't be a conservative because there's a liberal majority in New York. Maybe if Cruz named a few of these values which applied to Trump I'd agree with you, but he was being just as obtuse.
>they aren't all faggots
was never, ever stated
>example of new york values
ted cruz didn't say their values in general sucked, he said their values are liberal, and bad for that reason. Saying "they aren't pussies" in response to "they're leftists", doesn't refute anything.
in fact, nobody ever calls people from new york pussies, they're to much of uncaring assholes to be pussies
you do know what net neutrality is right, ted? it means you cant have your cable provider providing fast lanes for people who pay more. it means the net is treated as essential and protected like electricity or water.
>im not x
no, i was talking to you
if cruz were to say, "new york is a liberal shithole", and then trump were to say, "no, we don't value rape and murder", would you consider that a proper response?
of course not, because it's ridiculous and has nothing to do with the attack
this isn't what he said
even still, being strong and caring is still not a rebuttal, you dumb piece of shit
>keep slobbering Cruz's semen
as if I even like Cruz, you fucking cumguzzler
you people literally sound like the obama supporters in 2008, fucking warped
font forget bottlegate, which WILL haunt him. And still does
>one that doesn't make sense
it does, he is saying new york is leftist, and trump is largely representative of that leftist culture in new york
>that trump can't be conservative because
it isn't because, he's a leftist and represents the leftist nature of new york well
>maybe if trump named a few of these values
everyone knew what new york liberalism was until it was conveniently forgotten in favor of guzzling semen in this thread
IMO I think most of Liberal NY is more interested in Sanders than Clinton. Although i imagine they are of the kind that would still vote for her in a general election if Sanders loses the primary
Cruz: Fuck New York and the millions of Americans that live there
Trump: That's incredibly insulting, and we've seen New York Values shine through through the worst terror attack ever on a western country.
This thread is a microcosm of something nobody here even realizes.
The mere fact that this is currently the only issue anyone remembers from the debate is, oddly, just another example of Trump's masterful technique. Cruz isn't just fucked, he's fucked to such a degree that it's almost incomprehensible that he can maintain even a distant second place lead.
Trump has also just managed to ingratiate himself to a deep blue state and remind everyone there that he himself is a New Yorker; his recognition in the one blue part of an otherwise fairly red state is exactly what he wants; he's not going for a close-shave win when he (almost certainly) gets nominated, he wants to wipe the floor with his opponent to a degree not seen since Reagan's campaign or possibly further back when Nixon won everything other than Massachusetts and DC.
Trump now knows that the closest competitor has cornered himself into being little more than a slightly less drastic Santorum who will at best win a few of the rural midwestern states, having already grabbed the deep south up from Rubio and Jeb; he's already focusing on the general.
Screencap this post for Super Tuesday.
If you told New York leftists Trump's views on Muslim bans and deportations right out at the beginning it never would have flown, and getting a chance in the DNC rather than the GOP would be literally impossible. He only got this far with technique. This was Cruz attempting a one dimensional pander towards them good ol' boys who don't understand them city folk to get Iowa points, versus Trump's two dimensional approach that, yes, did include it's own pander, but also was a good deconstruction of the GOP's state.
>only because of net neutrality
lol this guy ACTUALLY wants to give the federal government more power over the internet and commerce around it
>i didn't have data caps before net neutrality
that is my point, that if net neutrality is damaging enough, like the non-academic businessmen are saying, then you'll get data caps eventually because the growth in usage is outpacing the growth in provided bandwith
either that or speed will just stagnate because of less investment in net infrastructure
>all these Cruz Rusers shitting on New York
I get that the 9/11 comment wasn't exactly a high road debate strategy but neither was Cruz's attack on them fancy city folk. More telling to me is Trump talking about New York conservatives and him mentioning William F. Buckley who in many ways elevated Conservatism intellectually for many years. Cruz's exclusionist attitude towards perceived urbanite liberal elites typifies the cause of the GOP's demographic woes and is in itself a kind of elitism. By badmouthing urban intellectuals Cruz turns off a whole portion of American voters who could be, and have been turned around to the GOP. Conservatism needs more intellectuals. Intellectuals are typically urban. Trump appeals to these people more than that rat-faced Canuckold ever could.
t. Urbanite Conservative Intellectual
I have several co workers and friends who are Cruz shills and its embarassing to watch. They think because he's personally conservative and fights the Establishment that he's the last great hope to reestablish white Evangelical Christian domination of the US. They litteraly hero worship him with shitty Facebook memes... And they truly believe he means what he says.
The real fact is he's a weasel politician to the nth degree. He is hated by the Establishment not because he's a "true" conservative but he's a gutless hypocrite. This new York values comment was just the bullshit spilling out for everyone to smell. It's great seeing the shills spinning it when they would have laid the hammer down had it been bush or rubio
we won't know until the polls come out friend
>appealing to retards
saying donald trump represents the same leftist mindset from new york is hardly appealing to retards
and even if it were, it's nowhere close to muh 9/11