Daily reminder republicans are a cancer to society
>Republicans are a cancer to society
>Democrats want to displace society to make room for animals
Why are people so quick to compare this group who hasn't hurt anybody to actually terrorists who kill thousands of people?
How are what these militiamen doing any different than the Occupy people occupying public parks or state houses?
>Republican "militias" occupy seasonally empty federal building on National Forest
>"OMG!!1 white turrist gun owners hurrr"
>Niggers burn down and loot Baltimore and Ferguson
>"We need to be more tolerant and let them have a safe space to grieve"
Liberals are the cancer of the fucking world.
That is public land. How would you feel if a gang of armed black people took over the courthouse ?
This is not a protest. This is a hostage situation with armed terrorists. We do not negotiate with terrorists.
KILL THEM ALL. One. At. A. Time.
>Ranchers use public land for private profit
>think they have "earned" what they take from the public for no reason other a general sense of entitlement
>get violent when you take it away
How is this any different than nigger on welfare? Protip: It isn't.
go push your leftist agenda anywhere else.
finding the one pocket of the internet where people disagree with you and being a faggot about it isn't going to win your cuck candidate any votes.
>put their lives on the line for their country
>now mocked by their country and receive slurs equating them to the very thing they were told they were going to free the ME from
How many buildings have they exploded? How many people have been harmed? How many people have been killed? Comparing them to terrorists who have done all of that, while they haven't, is incredibly disingenuous.
I got a chuckle out of that. 6/10
Not different from any of the islamic thugs. They want to live under different kind of rule, so they start forming groups and run around, wielding their guns around.
Seen it. Not that interesting.
This stuff is getting into anti-kulak levels of hate propaganda directed by the central government and it's associated class of parasitical intellectuals and bureaucrats against independent landowners who represent a threat to their consolidation of power.
Daily reminder that leftists NEVER APOLOGIZED for dekulakization.
When the Soviet Union killed MILLIONS of kulaks, no one said anything. Even to this very day and age no left-wing intellectual says anything bad about the campaign to liquidate the kulak as a class. They may criticize the Great Purge or the Moscow Trials, because the victims of such are leftists, but they never critivize the anti-kulak campaigns and forced collectivization.
The implications are obvious, the mentality of the modern leftist is EXACTLY THE SAME as the mentality of Stalin and Lazar Kaganovich, just the way they feared the kulak, the modern leftist fears the Christian white gun-owner. There is not a single difference in the way they are depicted in official propaganda. The only difference is that the kulak was disarmed, while the white American is armed. That's the ONLY REASON why forced collectivization doesn't happen in the United States and the ONLY REASON why liberals want gun control.
Therefore, since liberals are the equivalent to a totalitarian genocidal ideological movement inside the larger communist movement, I see no reason why any right-wing person should engage with them. People don't associate with Nazis, and not even with far-right people that can be linked to the Nazis, even though they reject the Holocaust, why should we engage with liberals even though they still promote genocidal worldviews such as the ones that led to dekulakization, something they never apologized for?
The US army is technically "a well regulated militia"
Besides, these militias represent the will of the american people far more than the federal government because they are the american people
>The case which sparked the initial protest involves Dwight Hammond, 73, and his son Steven, 46, who set fires that spread to government lands they leased to graze cattle.
These are not land owners really. They are fucking parasitic ranchers, not farmers. They benefit greatly from the ability to LEASE government land. These faggots thought that it also gave them the right to start massive fires for whatever reason and so got absolutely BTFO by the government. This is a pretty clear cut case guys.
>its that same shill
Read the Federalist Papers. A select militia is no better than a standing army when it comes to restraining the state. The founders were very clear on why the right to bear arms needed to be an individual right and what 'well-regulated militia' constitutes and it is not that.
The fed BLM burns the grass around their property causing pver 80 cows to die and houses to be burnt down. Farmers tried to save their own house by backburning which means starving a preexisting fire of fuel and oxygen. Are given 1 year of prison and 500k fine. They serve their sentence but continue to refuse to sell their property. They are given extended sentences of 5 years which under the law is illegal to imprison someone for the same crime twice.
Their protest is justified.
I don't care about right or wrong. I just want to see the descentralization of political power, the weakening of central government and the establishment of independent nodes of social, cultural, economical and political capital for the sake of create an alternative to the power of the central state.
If that takes criminal rednecks, so be it. At least they go out, articulate a resistance on personal level and fight the leviathan.
don't worry about posting the truth, /pol/ has no interest in it
definitely don't bring up the fact where they were poaching those lands years ago and started a fire to cover their tracks
Pol was right every time
In before hilarious anti-anti-Semitism argument about jealousy over success
This "news story" is literally editorial satire that didn't make it onto the Daily Show
IIRC the defense's case rests on some section of the constitution stating that the federal government can only own so much of any state's land, a limit that's been exceeded in Oregon
Is there a precedent for this sort of thing?
Why is decentralization necessarily a good thing? Even something as simple as standard weights and measures gets considerably harder when it does. It's not as though decentralization would magically fix everything.
>Truckers use public land for private profit
>think they have "earned" what they take from the public for no reason other a general sense of entitlement
>get violent when you take away their right to drive.
Hurr durr the government can ban you from public land on it's whim. Nothing to see here. Totally OK. There is an actual constitutional issue here if you weren't too stupid to see it.
Where are the divisions of the national guard from, if they're using it? Are they local or are they going to bring them in from other states? You can get down to the issue better that way. If they're using locals then it might be a terrorist action, if they avoid using locals then it's probably nothing wrong.
I seriously can't wait for the war to start so I can rid the earth of people like you
should be pretty easy considering you don't have guns and your nanny government will be disabled
They never had the right to start fires that spread onto land that they do not own. That is called arson and is a crime. This is not about rights, it is about those two dudes fucking up and getting butthurt about the consequences.
>your nanny government will be disabled
Assuming you mean some kind of revolution, I doubt a ragtag bunch of survivalists will be able to bring down the combined forces of the military.
No, it's a book by Nassim Taleb about "rare and unpredictable events", like a central government collapsing and leaving everyone much worse because it had destroyed every single intermediary corp of society beforehand. It happens all the time, it will happen again, luckly the U.S. has a healthy tradition of civic association that will make survive it better than it will be survive it in Sweden. No thanks to liberals, who would rather have the U.S. become another centralized shithole like China.
>Why is decentralization necessarily a good thing?
Okay, imagine there are no computers.
Everyone has terminals. Terminals to one giant computer in an enormous building in, say, Munich, Germany.
Want to play a game? Well the processing is done millions of miles away so there's a massive lag time between input and output. If there's a failure in a node somewhere (remember, this is centralized, so there's not a true network, only a series of distribution points stepping down to eventually you), ANYWHERE, you can't do anything.
Imagine the litany of problems that would entail for pretty much everything everywhere.
That's essentially centralized government.
Read about the situation you shills
>fed has wanted your land for years
>never sell to them regardless of their constant jewry
>routine bush fire on property
>tell fire department beforehand
>accidentally 100 acres of federal land
>put it out yourselves
>lightning storm starts bush fire on your property
>start backfire to push it away from your private property
>cops show up next day and press charges
>go to court
>get tried and convicted
>sentenced to a year in jail
>go to prison for roughly one year
>get let out, government says you've served your time
>years later feds want your land again
>still won't sell
>feds issue re sentencing convicting you of domestic terrorism
>minimum of 5 more years in federal prison
>now convicted of terrorism and must serve 5 more years in prison
This is a case of double jeopardy and also a federal property vs. private property issue. The fed gibmedats wanted more land so they have been strong arming it out of private ownership by bullying this family for decades in order to acquire their property.
I figured /pol/ would side with these guys telling the fed to fuck off. Let me remind you of a similar story:
>private individuals pissed at government after years of jewry
>decide to stockpile arms and form militia
>government goes to confiscate arms and shut it down
>stand off ending in shots fired
>both parties blame each other
>both parties call each other terrorists
>escalates into revolt
>April 19th 1775
Yes, but that's on one extreme of the spectrum. Even now a person living in a city has to follow the laws of the city, the county, the state, and the national government. I'm not sure if I'm reading what that anon is saying wrong, but it sounds like he wants the government on the decentralized extreme.
Just looked some of that up and there does not seem to be a lot of case law behind that sort of claim. It's basically an argument over interpretation, which is probably why the will continue to get raped in court.
As a frogbong with family living near to where the november attacks happened, I am bootyblasted by headlines like this.
They're unironically drawing a moral equivalency between nature reserve protesters with groups that actually kill people on a daily basis.
Remember when armed black lives matter patrolled the streets and threatened to kill cops over Ferguson and shit? No?
"oink oink bang bang a pig is a pig that's what I said, the only good pig is a pig that's dead"
Peaceful protest guys, move along. Just expressing their constitutional rights :^)
Upstanding black citizens.
What about when they "occupied" a police station with guns and threatened to kill police again over Sandra Bland, who is confirmed to have killed herself. Lmao
JUST A PEACEFUL GATHERING OF NOBLE UPSTANDING AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPRESSING THEIR 1ST AND 2ND AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
Why are liberals and the news so fucking stupid?
>burn stores down
>loot for months
>set fire to cars
>shootings break out
>do all crime just about
>dont blame them!
>white people do 1/1000th of that
>WHITE DOMESTIC TERRORISM!!!!!
>immediately siding with the federal government
I don't like to say shills because I believe a lot of the time it's used just to shut down discussion but there is some serious shilling over this
It doesn't really surprise me though
We know the federal government monitors and posts here
My point is that centralized government is inherently bad and one of the saving graces of America is the levels of relative autonomy states have.
Imagine getting rid of DEA spending, military spending, social security spending, urban voters hoisting gun control laws on mostly rural states, god, ANYTHING.
And what would we lose?
The endgame is white genocide. They are mounting the case, they are creating the cultural climate that will justify it (see movies such as "Django Unchained", that celebrate the murder of white people), they are making it a political necessity. The only thing between them and their goal is the fact that white people are still a majority, and they are armed. I don't know how longer that will last, though.
>implying the left would ever be caught dead using their brains
probably half, also its a valid and old method of social control - they would be stupid not to
its the same with every other potentially socially impactful movement, except these guys appeal to a way wider crowd than some rioters and thats a huge risk
This is no different than allahus or gibmedats holding hostages and creating outposts. Mow them down.
> inb4 "FUCKEEN LIBTARD WE WUZ PATRIOTS AN SHIET"
That money isn't just thrown into a black hole, it goes to real programs though. Most of the stuff you listed needs some serious reform, no doubt about it. But not having them has drawbacks as well.
Because they are white and right wing which makes them enemies to liberals.
Liberals don't actually care about terrorism or crime ( except to be against the police or to pretend they feel sorry for the victims ) but the thought of a group of white right wing guys doing something wrong justifies their bullshit policies.
>/pol/ has memed RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS into existence in less than six months
>/pol/ will have enough meme power by November to conquer the world through shitposting
Keep at it, boys! We got meme magic on our side!
>How many have those gunmen killed so far? How many people got blown up?
Are you fucking retarded? The threat of violence already causes fear and terror.
Neither side is going to pull the first shot
The feds don't want a blood bath on their hands and they definitely don't want a repeat of Waco
I love watching this shit go down because no matter what the feds lose
>I seriously can't wait for the war to start so I can rid the earth of people like you
>should be pretty easy considering you don't have guns and your nanny government will be disabled
Lots of them are hypocrites that own guns yet advocate against gun ownership.
They were poaching and tried to cover it up by setting fire to the site, you mongoloid.
Srsly time Obama takes guns from mouth breahters like you.
The wildlife of Oregon is being help prisoner by armed terrorists. This is why we have the second amendment -- so we can form militias to oppose anti-American groups like this with force. Down with YallQaeda!!! I for one volunteer myself to be in the first line of attack against this internal enemy.
Not much in the way of media attention at the moment
I only have a screenshot that keeps dissapearing hmmm
They claimed they would defend themselves if attacked.
Now if someone invaded your home and threatens to shoot anyone trying to remove him, what would you call that, Spastie?
Right, being an uneducated white trash redneck with a minimum wage job but a shitload of guns is much better, right?
There's already a US civil war going on. It's called Syria.
>Maybe because I can't jump through all the god damn hoops when I'm in college and trying to find work.
>Walk into gun store
>15 minute background check
Unless you live in a non-free state. Then good luck.
Or maybe the Government could stop infringing on the rights of its citizens.
Watchout, Dobson is against the white terrorists!!! you guys are doomed
why does it have to be about race?
Are black people that anxious to re-segregate themselves into society?
But yes, it's about the corruption of federal powers. it affects EVERYONE.
Why don't you protest speed limits asshole because they are infringing your right to go 150 in the inner city? What about drugs? Why can da gubbament take your meth away?
pretty much everyone else in the area was harassed, shit on, and brow beat until they did sell and now that they're the last holdouts BLM have pretty much dedicated all local resources and man power into destroying this family
Your kids are much more likely to get fucked by a catholic priest than muslims giving their low number in the USA.
Makes me think this might be a false flag so the media and gubbermint can shout "DUDE LOOK WHITES ARE TERRORISTS TOO". Also they'll push for gun laws like usual.
It's fucking stupid. The two groups are incomparable.
The Constitution is also vague on the issue of land ownership or rather it is vague regarding the limitations on the government's ability to own land, which is why this case probably won't go anywhere.
>The constitution makes no mention of any right to go 150 or do drugs.
Oh you need a fucking piece of paper to give you rights?
Well than what if someone changes that piece of paper? Does that make you lose that right?
You stole that shit anyway.
You try to be reasonable, logical, and you try to cite your sources for your positions, but every time you hit a wall of shit slinging, name calling, shit posting and SJW hashtags out to discredit and defame any position that doesn't fit within their marxist framework.
This is what drives people to the far right. When the left refuses to meet somewhere in the middle, people will eventually stop trying to be diplomatic.
You can only argue so much before you finally get pissed off and write off the need for any further discussion.
Whats the point in engaging the left as intellectuals anymore when they've proven a complete inability to discuss anything objectively. They've proven they're only here to push an agenda. They maintain no logical consistency. They move the goal posts are do mental gymnastics to avoid conceding anything to the middle or right.
No need to talk anymore. No need to argue. Just buy guns.
Fire up your twitter accounts goys this is the battleground. There's tons of Fashy twitter /pol/ bros and Trump accounts.
ok assuming that is completely correct and there are no outside parties involved, and these hicks are about to either cause the government to lose a huge amount of face at a time when dissatisfaction with the government is at an all time high and emboldening further events like this
enter into open conflict with the government which could potentially incite major unrest given the general dissatisfaction with the government
both of these are situations that are not favorable and are an incredible risk for the government which I do not think they would ever take
>They didn't own it.
>They didn't believe in land ownership.
So if you believe in not paying taxes you won't have to do it?
>accidentally 100 acres of federal land
>get charged with arson (not terrorism)
>judge extended sentence because of mandatory minimum requirements
I don't doubt the BLM is up to something but spreading outright lies makes you look even more like a paranoid loser.
Also.....Why aren't people who occupy to protest the police labeled as anti-government?
Srs answer: because they have guns and promised to use them. Which makes them terrorists in a lot of people's minds.
However, their being armed, and not their white privilege as is being claimed by the same people, is probably the reason they're in a standoff and not getting their heads cracked by cops.
Black Lives Matter should OC, except they're too much of a disorganized band of pissed off Alinsky typed who probably will shoot themselves.
Well guess what, this is what you do when something happens that you dont like. You dont group up and scream black lives matter and stop highways and cuck a presidential candidate to try and "get your message across". You be a man, and handle it like a man.
>Oh you need a fucking piece of paper to give you rights?
As opposed to? What are laws, just writing on paper, fuck that shit amirite?
>Well than what if someone changes that piece of paper? Does that make you lose that right?
No, because that's unconstitutional.
>its just that the majority hasnt been able to understand reality since 1992.
I had a shitty 1992, the adults were all out of sorts, I was only 7. Why 1992? I still have nightmares about the way adults treated me that year? Are you just picking a random year, or what is it exactly?
So judging by the logic of the people complaining about race yet supporting black riots against police shootings, the federal government is only corrupt when the people being affected are black?
What, I think, alot of you aren't realizing, these guys at this federal land have fucked themselves out badly. The strength of modern US gov't psy-ops is real. You can't start to imagine the material, cyber and psychological shit storm that's coming for these silly, deluded men who have cornered themselves in their little winter wonderland.
If you think, for one minute, the authorities are doing "nothing" right now, you're just not thinking well, at all.
>>Well than what if someone changes that piece of paper? Does that make you lose that right?
>No, because that's unconstitutional.
Changing the constitution is unconstitutional where you are from? Then how do these amendments work you got? Like the one that says that even special need guys like you can get a gun.
Sounds like they are exercising their rights.
>fall of the soviet union disillusioned american citizens
You think this is really what caused the situation in the current year? Like the fall of the Soviet Union stunned the psyche and we have never recovered? Like 9/11? That fucked my shit up.
Why would the fall change so much as to make them not grasp reality?
>peacefully occupying public land
>flying planes into several buildings resulting in billions of dollars in damages and several thousand people who died in the most horrific ways imaginable
Totally alike! R-right guys?
I'm not sure if this is what the anon meant, but I think it's because we had gotten used to a world with two superpowers. America always had and would always have a bad guy to fight. Then one day the bad guy disappears, and we've been looking for a clear-cut enemy ever since.
>Federal lawyers prosecuted the Hammonds under an anti-terrorism law that required a five-year minimum sentence, though they have declined to say why.
What was that?
Stop stealing my pics
>invaded your home
They "invaded" an empty building in the middle of nowhere. There is literally not a single innocent person within tens of miles of the place. Tell me again how they are threatening anyone.
See? You're an idiot. Even your friends say that you don't know shit.
They had to create another Amendment instead of editing the old one.
Prohibition is still there as the 18th Amendment, it's just three Amendments down the 21st Amendment just says pretty much "ignore that, big mistake"
NIGGERS PLEASE..DID YOU FORGET YOUR CHIMPOUTS AGAIN?
Sorry the tag should say Dumb Niggers got the colours mixed up
NIGGERS ARE TERRORISTS
JEWS ARE TERRORISTS
What is with krauts and their urge to disarm people? Oh that is right because if people had guns they wouldn't have been able to commit genocide. Get fucked kraut you deserved the berlin rape and dresden bombings.
Just like the constitution fucking intended. Thats the reason for the second amendment you fucking knuckle dragger. in case we wake up one day (govt infiltration is a slow, subtle process) and find that the government is no longer for the people, by the people, we actually have tools to save our own asses and property. Funny how that works.
I haven't seen any evidence they have. They parked an RV or two in the lot and have camp fires so it's more like they are just camping out in the lot of the building. Also they blocked the drive to the place with a pickup truck and draped an American flag over the sign.
Most of them are walking around unarmed and chatting amiably with each other.
Such an evil group of terrorists.
You Niggers CALL HIM hero..
BUT HE IS ALSO A TERRORIST but thats different because he was a oppressed black man...
THAT FUCKING NIGGER KILLED SCHOOL CHILDREN AND CIVILIANS and you have the stupidity of saying "end white terror" STOP YOUR NIGGER TERROR!
Why do liberals pretend to be the good guys?
>White men occupy a building
"Evil, white supremacist, terrorist, male pigs! they're the real threat to society and they should all be slaughtered without trial like rabid beasts they are!"
>Islamic extremists kill a large number of people
"They didn't do it because of their religion, you Islamophobe! You just don't understand their culture you privileged white bigot!"
Can we stop tossing the 'Terrorism' around willy nilly? It seems the first people to use it have no idea what it even is.
For those of you who don't know;
the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
Now this presents a problem. Clearly this definition would apply to every single government on the planet. Foreign policy, domestic policy, even the act of legislation is using intimidation to get what you want, after all every single law (good or bad) is a thinly veiled threat. "Do x or else we might have to kill you."
Theoretically, you could justify any violence the protesters do to any federal agents as counter terrorism.
In any case, walking onto public land and saying you will defend yourself if attacked is not terrorism.
But OP, occupying public spaces is an accepted form of peaceful protest. Like #Occupy and #BlackLivesMatter, #OccupyOregon is merely exercising their right to protest what they disagree with.
Whether you occupy roadways, sidewalks, city parks, docks, airports or wildlife refuges,
IT isn't any different. Not at all. And that's where you fail at being a sentient being and will remain a liberal.
Republican: everyone has rights, I want mine too
Democrat: we want our rights. You can't have yours.
Taleb is a statician and ex-investment banker. His ideas are pretty good and he has a few very good points.
His main point is warning about "fat tailed distributions": where lots and lots of (very) unlikely "happenings" add up to a quite large likelihood of one of the happenings to occure.
And if you follow him you will realize very quickly that he is a giant arrogant douche, this is also a bonus.
8/10. Very supportive of /pol/ happening posters.
>They "invaded" an empty building in the middle of nowhere. There is literally not a single innocent person within tens of miles of the place. Tell me again how they are threatening anyone.
Oh ok, it's only breaking and entering when somebody's at home. Funny laws you got over there.
Its actually fucking disgusting. The lengths these people go too.
The whataboutism from these people, its symbolises the modern day liberal, the self-hating little white kike dividing filth.
>Now, the federal government plans to send them back to prison because the presiding judge in the case refused to give the Hammonds the mandatory minimum five-year sentence under the terrorism act.
The truth, from a shill site no less. Basically the original judge fucked up and their sentence should have been longer. Too bad but that's how things go. That law is from 1996 by the way, so it's not that new. They were charged under it but were not labelled "terrorists" by any stretch either.
This is what happens when you give the feds a lot of power just because you are afraid of muh muslims. Remember that.
>Oh that is right because if people had guns they wouldn't have been able to commit genocide.
Well he's got a point in that the military won't defect over one incident like this, it would take a sustained stream of them over a relatively short period of time to get that ball rolling. As it stands if it's just an isolated group of guys occupying a federal building the National Guard will open fire. If it's dozens of situations like this all over the country then they might pause. I'm not sure what Bundy's goal is here, unless he's got a hell of a lot of reinforcements coming I don't know what this accomplishes.
>we've been looking for a clear-cut enemy ever since.
Yeah man, when it fell, I was 7 and didn't know what it was yet. I actually found out at a library and a librarian showed me a map.
To go through elementary school, doing duck and cover, it would shape your life, then shift negatively when gone. If you are conditioned for something then it disappears, yeah, makes sense. I never considered this.
It's how they get their morals sense of superiority.
With that they don't have to listen to reason and can cling to their moral smugness for their only argument.
That's why "CURRENT YEAR" is a thing.
Here are the legal facts:
>original judge was a cuck and refused to do his duty with regards to the mandatory minimum sentence
>feds take it to appeals who tell the cuck judge to give them the proper sentence
>ranchers start crying about how they shouldn't have to serve the full sentence because that's really not nice
Those are the facts. The jewy BLM is irrelevant.
they set the fire themselves to cover up the fact that they had been poaching for years on public land
stop spreading lies you glenn beck loving faggot
1. it's not anyone's home, it's a public building which wasn't staffed for the holidays, there's absolutely nothing illegal about visiting the place even off-hours
2. there's no accounts of them even "breaking in" to the building, they appear to be camping out in the lot
3. even if they did "break in" to the modest cabin, how exactly does that constitute terrorism? Who was terrorized?
>Cops won't treat them like cattle when they are armed obviously.
Cops won't treat them like cattle if they don't behave like a pack of niggers. And carrying a gun at a protest actually give the police a pretty good excuse to use force on your nigger ass.
You liberals DO NOTHING BUT HIDE LIKE PUSSIES.
Do you really do anything to stop crime? answer no you "stand by the victim" after with support But you supported the crime by doing NOTHING.
Hope you become a victim of a serious crime and watch as your fellow Liberals Cuckolds do nothing but video and stare....
Enjoy you liberal "freedoms" if you have ANY left
Read this, ignore the bootlickers, judge for yourself.
Conservatives are just as bad
>BLM peacefully occupies a university quad or a highway
>FUCKING COON NIGGERS WHY ARE BLACKS SO STUPID I HOPE THE POLICE KILL ALL THOSE DARKIES
>armed militia storm a nature reserve and announce they'll kill any police that come
>WHY IS EVERYONE CALLING THEM TERRORISTS THEY DINDU NOTHING WHY ARE PEOPLE POINTING OUT THEIR RACE?
When over 100 people are armed and know how to use their arms the police treat them with respect. They don't bully them or herd them like cattle, they tread very carefully and try to keep things civil because if violence does erupt many police will likely be killed along with the armed protesters and it will be a national debacle.
This is EXACTLY why we have a 2nd amendment.
>1. it's not anyone's home, it's a public building
Try getting into the CIA headquarter or the White House using the same argument. I want to see how long you last.
Just to make this 100% clear, these people should not be held accountable for their actions whatsoever, especially if they're being compared to terrorists. You know, because we're letting bad people in already, and clearly they get a nice handout rather than condemnation. So really, once all is said and done, these people should be given a nice fat check, and make sure they're fed for life.
ITT: how did we get on the internet if we cant read xDDDDD
>>FUCKING COON NIGGERS WHY ARE BLACKS SO STUPID I HOPE THE POLICE KILL ALL THOSE DARKIES
Who said this? I remember /pol/ laughing about them making asses of themselves and accomplishing nothing.
>You liberals DO NOTHING BUT HIDE LIKE PUSSIES.
No state will ever be allowed to recede because the national debt is far too large. If they agree to take on their share of the debt, the new central bank wouldn't be able to service it. If they don't, the collective debt of the rest of the nation will go up significantly as a percentage of GDP.
>MUH 2ND AMENDMENT IS FUR A MILISHA
>OK we'll form a militia
>LOOK AT THESE WHITE TERRORISTS
>U.S. LE becoming more and more militarized by the day
>given massive funding, armored vehicles, and military armor by Fed. Gov.
>same Fed. Gov. is trying their damnedest to disarm the American population
Hans, just because you've been cucked by your government into thinking having the right to defend yourself is uncool doesn't mean the rest of the world feels that way.
C'mon, motherfucker, get some guns, take back your land. Follow in our example. Make von Steuben proud.
sorry can you see a nigger there? it was a bunch of people forcing a corrupt government to pull back like the pussies they really are.
Niggers shoot cops for no reason.
The white people pushed the scum off land that was illegally taken and given it to the Back to the people.
You can freely visit either of those buildings. They have fucking tours for both.
And you just moved the goalposts. It's a fucking public building at a wildlife reserve in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. There weren't even any employees in the building because it was New Years and they haven't done anything remotely resembling a crime.
Explain to me how they are terrorists.
My best friend and older brother are both e5's in seperate branches of the miltary. From what they have told me, not one soldier they know will be following orders to harm american citizens, nor will my friend and brother be issuing orders farther down the line to do this. Its simple. The government is an entity that seems so big it can't he stopped. In reality, the government is made up by the people of america. Money can only reach so far.
>americans have 2nd amendment
>"LOL LIKE YOU WOULD EVEN STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS LMAO"
>americans exercise 2nd amendment
>"W-WHAT HOLY SHIT TERRORISTS, DISARM THESE LUNATICS"
yuropoors on suicide watch itt
I don't support violence against peaceful protests, whether I agree with the protest or not.
However, I do support violence against niggers, as they are not people and therefore are incapable of "protest".
I couldn't believe it when I actually read about the details to this news. A small militia occupying a federal building on a Sunday? L I T E R A L L Y retarded.
Let me quote some of what these stupid assholes are saying/claiming, verbatim:
>"We’re planning on staying here for several years"
>"We’re calling people to come out here and stand"
>"We have food planned and prepared."
>"We need you to bring your arms."
>"And we need you to come to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge."
I'll give them this, it's a place for people to come to.
>"willing to kill and be killed if necessary"
>the Bundys initially claimed they had around 150 people there
>but a reporter who managed to get close spotted about a dozen
>"I am 100 percent willing to lay my life down to defend against tyranny in this country"
both foreign AND DOMESTIC meme.
>"We need real men here... Americans who have the intestinal fortitude to come here and take a stand and say enough is enough…."
>"To my family, just know that I stood for something. Don't let it be in vain. I love you."
WHAT THE FUCK?
They need to be arrested or killed if necessary. If they try to be arrested, they're going to shoot to kill? I guess we will have to wait until Monday tomorrow to see what's going to happen. So glad I don't live near that shit.
ugh, this drivel is what happens when logic-minded engineers start trying wrap their head around what a society is. it's like trying to build a birdhouse with just a plumber's wrench.
having specialized knowledge doesn't mean you're knowledgable about everything.
>FUCK THE GUBMINT MUH GUNS YA HURD
>LET'S OCCUPY DA GUBMINT WILDLIFE REFUGE BECAUSE MUH GUNS GUBMINT
>"Hey, why not occupy a state capitol or even Washington DC?"
>DON'T TREAD ON ME, BOY! NOW GO ON AN GIT!
>GUBMINT MUH GUNS GUNS
>THESE COLORS DON'T RUN, MINTGUB
This is why America is going to die.
Let's take the current situation as an example. Even if half of the Oregon National Guard decides to disobey orders, not that many would actually join the protesters, and there would still be people who stay with the government and shoot their fellow countrymen. I'm not saying this is a reason not to fight, but it's an impossible fight all the same.
>You can freely visit either of those buildings.
I actually did the White House tour once. You either need to have connections or wait for fucking ever to get in. So no, you can not just get in (without getting shot).
No, dumb dumb, they are protesting a fire that was started to put out a wildfire. It worked, but the state charged the father and son with terrorist arson and gave them the minimum 5 year sentence, for saving the land. So, they are protesting bullshit. Get your facts, this isn't for no reason.
this is actually what happened ignore the shills>>59967301
Left becomes more and more radical and people are surprised when the right follows suit?
Keep demonizing white people, we all know from history what happens when people push white folks to far.
BLM protests were not peaceful. Or how do you explain Ferguson stores being vandalized and looted? Just magic looter fairies I guess? Later on they were "peaceful" only due to heavy police presence which contained them and forced them to disperse any time they got too rowdy.
>storm a nature reserve
You mean drove up to an unoccupied tiny cabin and camped out in the lot saying it was a protest against federal bullying?
>announce they'll kill any police that come
They said they'd defend themselves with force. They gave fair warning to the cops to be left alone.
It's the residence of the president and has many valuable historic artifacts, of course security is a bitch.
What does this have to do with a wildlife preserve office that not only has zero security but zero staff of any kind in it over the holidays? It's literally a tiny cabin out in the middle of nowhere, considered so lacking in value they did not even bother to watch it with a single security guard.
>did a controlled fire that escaped off their property and burt 100 acres of Refuge fields before the family put it out by themselves
mind you they told BLM before hand and BLM didn't show up in any capacity to help and the BLM in that area have been widely known to do controlled fires that get lose on private property and damage homes and kill live stock with no fucks given from BLM
>few years later a bad lightening storm was causing forest fires all over
>the family in an attempt to keep their entire grazing fields from being burnt up did a controlled fire ahead of it to cut off its fuel source onto their property and it worked
then of course the Father and Son were pretty much railroaded at court but the judge still gave them light sentences of 3 months for the oldest and 12 for the younger of which they both served.
Now due to more BLM dickbutts they're now years later after all of this being forced to go back and both serve 5 years for those some sentences.
Who actually owns the land they occupying?
And if someone owns it who isnt the gov, why hasnt the gov just bought the land?
Sounds like that is what the BLM has been trying to do in that region for a long time. The BLM is a fucking kike agency that exists to steal land from basically everyone regardless of race or creed in order to "sell" it to mining companies and/or other corporate interests.
It makes me wonder if California wildfires are a racquet.
I kind of doubt it, but this story makes it seem like they want fires burning.
it is govt owned "public" land. you can go on and do most things without asking anyone. by poaching on it and then setting it on-fire they destroyed public land owned by the govt.
think of it like this:
>some guy wants to have big party
>goes to public park to hold party
>trashes park with beer cans, plates, dirty napkins
>clean it up? nah just set it on fire and run away
then they cried "wahhh wahh my freeDUMBS muh 1776" when the cops came and said "hey man you burned a public park to cover up the party you held there"
and in certain states judges at their discretion can give lesser or more harsh sentences.
The first attempt was in the hopes the Ranch would totally fail without the 2 lead males in the family there to take charge, failing that both would be disarmed because they're felons now and can't effectively protect their cattle.
Because they didn't sale then BLM has now doubled down and doing everything short of murdering the family and cattle, burning the buildings, or salting the fields yet.