TERRORISTS VS WILDLIFE REFUGE

>>59959321
>Exercising second amendment right
>Cancer
>Terrorists
Pick one and only one Pablo

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>>59959321

>Republicans are a cancer to society
>Democrats want to displace society to make room for animals

WE WUZ COWBOYS AND SHEEEIT

>>59959321
Why are they even occupying the cabin? Attention seeking?

>>59959321
>ornery white men the only group to actively not take the government's shit while others just hashtag and whine to the state to stop fucking their assholes
>cancer

pick one

>le redneck memes

fucking dumb women in journalism jesus christ almighty

Why are people so quick to compare this group who hasn't hurt anybody to actually terrorists who kill thousands of people?

How are what these militiamen doing any different than the Occupy people occupying public parks or state houses?

>>59959321
>LOLOLOLO YT SO EBUL UR BAD LELELELELRLRLELELELELLELE

Bait. Shit. Hidden.

>>59959321
>demonizing y'all
no stepping snek

>>59959579

yup

formal militias are basically the sjw's of the right

>>59959321
>Republican "militias" occupy seasonally empty federal building on National Forest
>"OMG!!1 white turrist gun owners hurrr"

>Niggers burn down and loot Baltimore and Ferguson
>"We need to be more tolerant and let them have a safe space to grieve"

Liberals are the cancer of the fucking world.

How many people have these guys killed?

Oh right. Zero.

>>59959749
Cause they're on the wrong side of history.

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That is public land. How would you feel if a gang of armed black people took over the courthouse ?

This is not a protest. This is a hostage situation with armed terrorists. We do not negotiate with terrorists.

KILL THEM ALL. One. At. A. Time.

>>59959749
Because they're armed with deadly weapons and have made it clear they will use them on law enforcement.

>>59959321
>Ranchers use public land for private profit
>think they have "earned" what they take from the public for no reason other a general sense of entitlement
>get violent when you take it away

How is this any different than nigger on welfare? Protip: It isn't.

>>59959749
actually in reality what they are doing is way better then occupying parks or state houses. its just that the majority hasnt been able to understand reality since 1992.

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>>59959841

>>59959321
>YallQaeda
OMG how many hostages? How many have those gunmen killed so far? How many people got blown up? Keep me posted!

>>59960051
>terrorism is just killing, nothing else can be considered terrorism

Try again retarf

>>59959321

go push your leftist agenda anywhere else.

finding the one pocket of the internet where people disagree with you and being a faggot about it isn't going to win your cuck candidate any votes.

>>59959321
>put their lives on the line for their country
>now mocked by their country and receive slurs equating them to the very thing they were told they were going to free the ME from

Motherfuckers

>>59960362
How many buildings have they exploded? How many people have been harmed? How many people have been killed? Comparing them to terrorists who have done all of that, while they haven't, is incredibly disingenuous.

>Oregon
>using y'all

>New York Jew media in charge of knowing the linguistic patterns of the rest of the country

>>59960416
>put their lives on the line for their country

i don't think you know what a militia is

>>59959321
>YallQaeda

I got a chuckle out of that. 6/10

Not different from any of the islamic thugs. They want to live under different kind of rule, so they start forming groups and run around, wielding their guns around.

Seen it. Not that interesting.

>>59959321
WE

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This stuff is getting into anti-kulak levels of hate propaganda directed by the central government and it's associated class of parasitical intellectuals and bureaucrats against independent landowners who represent a threat to their consolidation of power.

Daily reminder that leftists NEVER APOLOGIZED for dekulakization.

When the Soviet Union killed MILLIONS of kulaks, no one said anything. Even to this very day and age no left-wing intellectual says anything bad about the campaign to liquidate the kulak as a class. They may criticize the Great Purge or the Moscow Trials, because the victims of such are leftists, but they never critivize the anti-kulak campaigns and forced collectivization.

The implications are obvious, the mentality of the modern leftist is EXACTLY THE SAME as the mentality of Stalin and Lazar Kaganovich, just the way they feared the kulak, the modern leftist fears the Christian white gun-owner. There is not a single difference in the way they are depicted in official propaganda. The only difference is that the kulak was disarmed, while the white American is armed. That's the ONLY REASON why forced collectivization doesn't happen in the United States and the ONLY REASON why liberals want gun control.

Therefore, since liberals are the equivalent to a totalitarian genocidal ideological movement inside the larger communist movement, I see no reason why any right-wing person should engage with them. People don't associate with Nazis, and not even with far-right people that can be linked to the Nazis, even though they reject the Holocaust, why should we engage with liberals even though they still promote genocidal worldviews such as the ones that led to dekulakization, something they never apologized for?

>>59960629

>all armed groups are exactly like Islamic terrorists

Nice meme yurocuck

>>59960736
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>>59960803
PEOPLE

>>59960078
depends on what they were protesting

it is a protest

no one will fire a shot because half the guys there are probably paid instigators

>>59960570
The US army is technically "a well regulated militia"

Besides, these militias represent the will of the american people far more than the federal government because they are the american people

>>59960782
Well, these rednecks might need to step up their game regarding enslaving women and so on ..

>>59960078
Where are the hostages?

>>59961026

It was real in my mind.

>"militia"

kek. no.

We have a National Guard.

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>>59960743
>The case which sparked the initial protest involves Dwight Hammond, 73, and his son Steven, 46, who set fires that spread to government lands they leased to graze cattle.

These are not land owners really. They are fucking parasitic ranchers, not farmers. They benefit greatly from the ability to LEASE government land. These faggots thought that it also gave them the right to start massive fires for whatever reason and so got absolutely BTFO by the government. This is a pretty clear cut case guys.

>>59960078
There are no hostages. No one (with a cushy gov't job) works on a Sunday, you federal shill.

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>>59961145
>its that same shill

Reminder that our country wouldn't have been a thing if not for "terrorism".

>>59961145
It's alleged that the government took this land from them unfairly in the first place.
>>>/k/28412794

>>59961114

Read the Federalist Papers. A select militia is no better than a standing army when it comes to restraining the state. The founders were very clear on why the right to bear arms needed to be an individual right and what 'well-regulated militia' constitutes and it is not that.

>>59959321
You fucking liberals better stop talking shit unless you want to radicalize them even more!

>abandoned wildlife building in the woods

If the left was smart they would not talk about this

>>59961145
They started the fire to engulf a wildfire.

>>59959579
The fed BLM burns the grass around their property causing pver 80 cows to die and houses to be burnt down. Farmers tried to save their own house by backburning which means starving a preexisting fire of fuel and oxygen. Are given 1 year of prison and 500k fine. They serve their sentence but continue to refuse to sell their property. They are given extended sentences of 5 years which under the law is illegal to imprison someone for the same crime twice.

Their protest is justified.

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>>59961145
I don't care about right or wrong. I just want to see the descentralization of political power, the weakening of central government and the establishment of independent nodes of social, cultural, economical and political capital for the sake of create an alternative to the power of the central state.

If that takes criminal rednecks, so be it. At least they go out, articulate a resistance on personal level and fight the leviathan.

>>59960904
No, it's not, it's a regular standing army, which is exactly what a militia is not

>>59961145

don't worry about posting the truth, /pol/ has no interest in it

definitely don't bring up the fact where they were poaching those lands years ago and started a fire to cover their tracks

>>59961478
That's how you get somali. You don't want that do you?

Only niggers win in Somali.

The fire rises.

>>59959321
Always sage and report middle school posts.

>>59961577
Somalians are conquering Sweden.

>>59959321
Cronin
Pol was right every time
In before hilarious anti-anti-Semitism argument about jealousy over success
This "news story" is literally editorial satire that didn't make it onto the Daily Show

>>59961145
IIRC the defense's case rests on some section of the constitution stating that the federal government can only own so much of any state's land, a limit that's been exceeded in Oregon

Is there a precedent for this sort of thing?

>>59961478
Why is decentralization necessarily a good thing? Even something as simple as standard weights and measures gets considerably harder when it does. It's not as though decentralization would magically fix everything.

>>59961880

its not, its just allegedly easier to implement their own special brand of bullshit

>>59960197

>Truckers use public land for private profit
>think they have "earned" what they take from the public for no reason other a general sense of entitlement
>get violent when you take away their right to drive.

Hurr durr the government can ban you from public land on it's whim. Nothing to see here. Totally OK. There is an actual constitutional issue here if you weren't too stupid to see it.

Where are the divisions of the national guard from, if they're using it? Are they local or are they going to bring them in from other states? You can get down to the issue better that way. If they're using locals then it might be a terrorist action, if they avoid using locals then it's probably nothing wrong.

>>59959321
>lel only da white mane uese y'all
Blacks confirmed for cultural appropriation

>>59961972
These are their lands since the 1800s cuckboi.

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>>59961880

>>59961729
No, they aren't

>>59959321
I seriously can't wait for the war to start so I can rid the earth of people like you

should be pretty easy considering you don't have guns and your nanny government will be disabled

>>59961972
They never had the right to start fires that spread onto land that they do not own. That is called arson and is a crime. This is not about rights, it is about those two dudes fucking up and getting butthurt about the consequences.

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>>59962099
Back to the cuckshed, Sven.

>>59962070
>The Black Swan
Not that movie about the ballerina right? I'll put this book on my backlog in any case.

>>59962110
>your nanny government will be disabled
Assuming you mean some kind of revolution, I doubt a ragtag bunch of survivalists will be able to bring down the combined forces of the military.

>>59961478
This Hue gets it.

>>59962397
they may not but they set the wheels in motion.

its the impact that matters.

right now, its a pretty big impact.

>>59962307
Go fuck yourself, faggot, I've personally seen those opportunistic niggers break apart and scatter

>>59962315
No, it's a book by Nassim Taleb about "rare and unpredictable events", like a central government collapsing and leaving everyone much worse because it had destroyed every single intermediary corp of society beforehand. It happens all the time, it will happen again, luckly the U.S. has a healthy tradition of civic association that will make survive it better than it will be survive it in Sweden. No thanks to liberals, who would rather have the U.S. become another centralized shithole like China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Swan_%28Taleb_book%29

>>59961478
We tried that at first but then it all came crashing down with the Civil War, which destroyed the American south and killed hundreds of thousands of americans in combat alone.

>>59962251

>Argument gets blown out.
>Quick! Move the flagpost!

Good try.

>>59962397
keep putting your stock in that military that's gonna defect

>>59962397
A lot of the people involved in the miltia movement are ex military.

>>59961880
>Why is decentralization necessarily a good thing?
Okay, imagine there are no computers.

Everyone has terminals. Terminals to one giant computer in an enormous building in, say, Munich, Germany.

Want to play a game? Well the processing is done millions of miles away so there's a massive lag time between input and output. If there's a failure in a node somewhere (remember, this is centralized, so there's not a true network, only a series of distribution points stepping down to eventually you), ANYWHERE, you can't do anything.

Imagine the litany of problems that would entail for pretty much everything everywhere.

That's essentially centralized government.

>>59962251

best part is the guys in question aren't opposing the decision and don't want the militiafags there making it worse for them

>>59962251
Doesn't excuse the fact that they are essentially going to be serving more time for a crime they already were punished for

>>59959749
Because liberals have to blame white people for every problem to win elections

>>59959321
daily reminder that this was instigated by FBI and is a false flag to take our guns

>>59959321
Read about the situation you shills

>fed has wanted your land for years
>never sell to them regardless of their constant jewry
>2001
>routine bush fire on property
>tell fire department beforehand
>accidentally 100 acres of federal land
>put it out yourselves
>2006
>lightning storm starts bush fire on your property
>start backfire to push it away from your private property
>cops show up next day and press charges
>go to court
>get tried and convicted
>sentenced to a year in jail
>go to prison for roughly one year
>get let out, government says you've served your time
>2011
>years later feds want your land again
>still won't sell
>feds issue re sentencing convicting you of domestic terrorism
>minimum of 5 more years in federal prison
>now convicted of terrorism and must serve 5 more years in prison


This is a case of double jeopardy and also a federal property vs. private property issue. The fed gibmedats wanted more land so they have been strong arming it out of private ownership by bullying this family for decades in order to acquire their property.

I figured /pol/ would side with these guys telling the fed to fuck off. Let me remind you of a similar story:

>private individuals pissed at government after years of jewry
>decide to stockpile arms and form militia
>government goes to confiscate arms and shut it down
>stand off ending in shots fired
>both parties blame each other
>both parties call each other terrorists
>escalates into revolt
>April 19th 1775

>>59960416
just like nam.

WHAT ABOUT WEATHER UNDERGROUND AND BILL AYERS THO??????

EH LEFTIES????

>>59962517
Sven damage control, i bet 50% of your country is black/mixed as of now

>>59960510

shut up shitlord!

white men doing things without permission triggers me!

>>59962578
Yes, but that's on one extreme of the spectrum. Even now a person living in a city has to follow the laws of the city, the county, the state, and the national government. I'm not sure if I'm reading what that anon is saying wrong, but it sounds like he wants the government on the decentralized extreme.

>>59961760
Just looked some of that up and there does not seem to be a lot of case law behind that sort of claim. It's basically an argument over interpretation, which is probably why the will continue to get raped in court.

>Down with federal parks!
Oh yeah, these are some tough guys alright...

>>59962769

whats the point of lying when you know you'll get caught?

>>59959321
As a frogbong with family living near to where the november attacks happened, I am bootyblasted by headlines like this.

They're unironically drawing a moral equivalency between nature reserve protesters with groups that actually kill people on a daily basis.

>>59960865
>these people would never hurt anyone, they're all paid instigators!

How convenient for you

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Remember when armed black lives matter patrolled the streets and threatened to kill cops over Ferguson and shit? No?

"oink oink bang bang a pig is a pig that's what I said, the only good pig is a pig that's dead"

No?

Peaceful protest guys, move along. Just expressing their constitutional rights :^)

Upstanding black citizens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feY0diCOp-Y [Embed]

What about when they "occupied" a police station with guns and threatened to kill police again over Sandra Bland, who is confirmed to have killed herself. Lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZHFjxTsMx4 [Embed]

JUST A PEACEFUL GATHERING OF NOBLE UPSTANDING AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPRESSING THEIR 1ST AND 2ND AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

:^)

Why are liberals and the news so fucking stupid?

>burn stores down
>loot for months
>set fire to cars
>shootings break out
>"peaceful protest"
>do all crime just about
>dont blame them!

>white people do 1/1000th of that
>WHITE DOMESTIC TERRORISM!!!!!

>>59963020
Yes, and that's a real problem. They haven't shot anyone or even directly stated that they will shoot anyone as far as I know.

>>59963020
>moral equivalency
Thats been the lefts whole goal for the last 50 years
>the communists arent any worse than us
>muslim terrorists arent any worse than us

>>59963130
What really gets me is when they ask why the National Guard isn't being called in for this.

>/pol/acks
>immediately siding with the federal government

I don't like to say shills because I believe a lot of the time it's used just to shut down discussion but there is some serious shilling over this

It doesn't really surprise me though
We know the federal government monitors and posts here

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>>59960743
Bravo Brazilbro. Bravo.

>>59962825
My point is that centralized government is inherently bad and one of the saving graces of America is the levels of relative autonomy states have.

Imagine getting rid of DEA spending, military spending, social security spending, urban voters hoisting gun control laws on mostly rural states, god, ANYTHING.

And what would we lose?

>>59960812
>And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

>>59963020
See >>59960743

The endgame is white genocide. They are mounting the case, they are creating the cultural climate that will justify it (see movies such as "Django Unchained", that celebrate the murder of white people), they are making it a political necessity. The only thing between them and their goal is the fact that white people are still a majority, and they are armed. I don't know how longer that will last, though.

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>>59961428
>implying the left would ever be caught dead using their brains

>>59963059
>all
probably half, also its a valid and old method of social control - they would be stupid not to

its the same with every other potentially socially impactful movement, except these guys appeal to a way wider crowd than some rioters and thats a huge risk

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This is no different than allahus or gibmedats holding hostages and creating outposts. Mow them down.


> inb4 "FUCKEEN LIBTARD WE WUZ PATRIOTS AN SHIET"

>>59963292
That money isn't just thrown into a black hole, it goes to real programs though. Most of the stuff you listed needs some serious reform, no doubt about it. But not having them has drawbacks as well.

>>59959749

Because they are white and right wing which makes them enemies to liberals.

Liberals don't actually care about terrorism or crime ( except to be against the police or to pretend they feel sorry for the victims ) but the thought of a group of white right wing guys doing something wrong justifies their bullshit policies.

>>59962769
>>April 19th 1775

We WON!!!

GO AMERICA!

>/pol/ has memed RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS into existence in less than six months
>/pol/ will have enough meme power by November to conquer the world through shitposting

Keep at it, boys! We got meme magic on our side!

>>59963528
Where are the hostages?

>>59959412
>occupying govt buildings
>burning/poaching on national park land
>2nd amendment rights
L-O-L

>>59963635
where did this poaching meme even come from? source?

>>59962487
Something like this is exactly what led to the start of the Civil War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry

>>59960362

What is the cost of property damage by these militia men?

>>59963496
So only "paid instigators" would act violent and otherwise unruly. Gotcha. Very convenient excuse.

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>>59960341

>How many have those gunmen killed so far? How many people got blown up?

Are you fucking retarded? The threat of violence already causes fear and terror.

>>59963883
how many people did these militiamen threaten with violence?

>>59963883
Of course.

Here comes the German Caliphate, and their infinite knowledge of terrorism.

t. Ahmed bin Al-Salami

>>59963982
I've seen an anon say that they threatened the sheriff and his family, but the anon who said it couldn't provide sauce.

>>59963982
>They were screaming death to the infidels while walking on the stre.. Oh no wait those are the ''moderate'' muslims

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>>59959321
Neither side is going to pull the first shot
The feds don't want a blood bath on their hands and they definitely don't want a repeat of Waco
I love watching this shit go down because no matter what the feds lose

>>59959321
Where can I read up on this situation?

If what >>59962769
said is true, I'd have to side with the whites on this, despite being black myself...

>>59962110
>I seriously can't wait for the war to start so I can rid the earth of people like you
>should be pretty easy considering you don't have guns and your nanny government will be disabled
Lots of them are hypocrites that own guns yet advocate against gun ownership.

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>>59964086

They were poaching and tried to cover it up by setting fire to the site, you mongoloid.

Srsly time Obama takes guns from mouth breahters like you.

>>59963867
you're the only one saying things are going to get violent and unruly, the game is control not cause the great american chimpening

>>59959579
Its a particular brand of fuck you towards the BLM

>>59964185
>basing anything on race
The media wants you to subscribe to the idea of race so that they can tell you who's right and who's wrong.

>>59961026
The wildlife of Oregon is being help prisoner by armed terrorists. This is why we have the second amendment -- so we can form militias to oppose anti-American groups like this with force. Down with YallQaeda!!! I for one volunteer myself to be in the first line of attack against this internal enemy.

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Well, liberals?

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>>59964185
Not much in the way of media attention at the moment
I only have a screenshot that keeps dissapearing hmmm

>>59964310
Then why call them paid instigators if they're not gonna instigate anything?

Ha the amount of shilling on this board increased, seems to be a lot of leftist commie fags on here these days.

>>59964265
>most young people avoid guns
Maybe because I can't jump through all the god damn hoops when I'm in college and trying to find work.

>yallqaeda
>not yeehawdists
its like they're not even trying

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>>59963982
>>59964021

They claimed they would defend themselves if attacked.

Now if someone invaded your home and threatens to shoot anyone trying to remove him, what would you call that, Spastie?

>>59964542
Refugees

Why is it okay when nigs occupy shit like malls?

>>59964474
Obviously jihadist is an offensive term for a moderate Muslim, while Al'Qaeda isn't Muslim.

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>>59959321
>Cronin

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

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>>59964438

Right, being an uneducated white trash redneck with a minimum wage job but a shitload of guns is much better, right?

>>59964562
Burn

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There's already a US civil war going on. It's called Syria.

>>59964438
>Maybe because I can't jump through all the god damn hoops when I'm in college and trying to find work.

>Walk into gun store
>Buy gun
>15 minute background check
>Leave

Unless you live in a non-free state. Then good luck.

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>>59964652
Or maybe the Government could stop infringing on the rights of its citizens.

>>59964652
>government creates difficult bureaucracy for gun licenses
>normal people can't get guns
>the hillbillies who shouldn't have guns still have guns
The guns aren't the problem here.

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>>59959321
Watchout, Dobson is against the white terrorists!!! you guys are doomed

>>59964185

why does it have to be about race?

Are black people that anxious to re-segregate themselves into society?

But yes, it's about the corruption of federal powers. it affects EVERYONE.

>>59964407
what do you call what is happening then if its not instigation of a desired event?

>>59964781
Commiefornia, and in the suburbs as well. Not everyone has the luxury of living in a pro-gun state.

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>>59964795

Why don't you protest speed limits asshole because they are infringing your right to go 150 in the inner city? What about drugs? Why can da gubbament take your meth away?

>>59964652

Better than letting my kids get raped by Mohammed and his band of pedophiles.

>>59962769
They weren't charged with terrorism. They were charged with arson and had their sentence EXTENDED by the judge (this is completely legal by the way.)

>>59964891
I've seen many people bring up the race of them, so I deemed it appropriate even at the risk of being called an uncle tom online.

>>59964851

>Taking an opinion from a literal furry seriously.

lol

no.

>>59964987
Your image is correct but your post is not.

>>59964893
Hicks overreacting to other hicks not getting their way and throwing a shitfit?

>>59964542
> Defending yourself is terrorism
Jesus, Merkel really got you guys whipped.

>>59965010
What was the extension for? The official reason, I know everyone is claiming that it's because they wouldn't sell their land.

>>59964987
The constitution makes no mention of any right to go 150 or do drugs.
Very weak argument Ahmed, please put a little bit of effort into it.

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>YallQaeda

pretty much everyone else in the area was harassed, shit on, and brow beat until they did sell and now that they're the last holdouts BLM have pretty much dedicated all local resources and man power into destroying this family

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>>59964999

Your kids are much more likely to get fucked by a catholic priest than muslims giving their low number in the USA.

>>59959321
Makes me think this might be a false flag so the media and gubbermint can shout "DUDE LOOK WHITES ARE TERRORISTS TOO". Also they'll push for gun laws like usual.

It's fucking stupid. The two groups are incomparable.

>>59964265
>I AM SILLY

>>59960904
>american people

I'll give you a hint


The American People is not just a bunch of Old Christian Conservative Boomers

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>>59959321
>YallQaeda

>>59965129
the initial sentence was less than the mandatory minimum. The appeals court told told them to go back to jail and serve the full thing.

>>59965077

the only people that bring up race are other black people and liberal shit heads.

>>59965188
>MY HEAD IS HUGE

>>59965143
The Constitution is also vague on the issue of land ownership or rather it is vague regarding the limitations on the government's ability to own land, which is why this case probably won't go anywhere.

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>>59965143

>The constitution makes no mention of any right to go 150 or do drugs.

Oh you need a fucking piece of paper to give you rights?

Well than what if someone changes that piece of paper? Does that make you lose that right?

>>59959321
Can someone redpill me on what's going on? Nigger Twitter has been all over this

>>59964185
Bad goy! Whitey is keeping you down, kill whitey. You arent an uncle tom right?

>>59965302

>What is double jeopardy

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>>59965319

>lander ownership

You stole that shit anyway.

>>59965408
See >>59962769

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You try to be reasonable, logical, and you try to cite your sources for your positions, but every time you hit a wall of shit slinging, name calling, shit posting and SJW hashtags out to discredit and defame any position that doesn't fit within their marxist framework.

This is what drives people to the far right. When the left refuses to meet somewhere in the middle, people will eventually stop trying to be diplomatic.

You can only argue so much before you finally get pissed off and write off the need for any further discussion.

Whats the point in engaging the left as intellectuals anymore when they've proven a complete inability to discuss anything objectively. They've proven they're only here to push an agenda. They maintain no logical consistency. They move the goal posts are do mental gymnastics to avoid conceding anything to the middle or right.

No need to talk anymore. No need to argue. Just buy guns.

>>59965462
That is not double jeopardy.

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Fire up your twitter accounts goys this is the battleground. There's tons of Fashy twitter /pol/ bros and Trump accounts.

>>59965503
>moving the goalposts
I guess we have to disregard your opinions now because you're a Nazi, right?

>>59965503
They didn't own it. They didn't believe in land ownership.

>>59965513
That entire post is lies though.

>>59960197
>dat ID

you're 100% correct.

>>59965536

>says the KKK

>>59965603
He wanted redpill bullshit, he's going to get some. It's not like there's a non-biased news report to give here.

>>59965084
ok assuming that is completely correct and there are no outside parties involved, and these hicks are about to either cause the government to lose a huge amount of face at a time when dissatisfaction with the government is at an all time high and emboldening further events like this
or
enter into open conflict with the government which could potentially incite major unrest given the general dissatisfaction with the government

both of these are situations that are not favorable and are an incredible risk for the government which I do not think they would ever take

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>>59965188
Fixed that for you

>>59959321
God damn, the shilling over this event is intense. I can only assume most of this is paid for

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>>59965602

>They didn't own it.
>They didn't believe in land ownership.

So if you believe in not paying taxes you won't have to do it?

>>59962769
>accidentally 100 acres of federal land
>arson
>get charged with arson (not terrorism)
>judge extended sentence because of mandatory minimum requirements

I don't doubt the BLM is up to something but spreading outright lies makes you look even more like a paranoid loser.

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>>59959749
good point

Also.....Why aren't people who occupy to protest the police labeled as anti-government?

anyone got any pics from tweets of liberals saying they should be killed

i wanna make a redpill collage to use on people

>>59964851
150 or 15, it doesn't matter. He'll never lose enough weight.

>>59959749
Srs answer: because they have guns and promised to use them. Which makes them terrorists in a lot of people's minds.

However, their being armed, and not their white privilege as is being claimed by the same people, is probably the reason they're in a standoff and not getting their heads cracked by cops.

Black Lives Matter should OC, except they're too much of a disorganized band of pissed off Alinsky typed who probably will shoot themselves.

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>>59960192
Well guess what, this is what you do when something happens that you dont like. You dont group up and scream black lives matter and stop highways and cuck a presidential candidate to try and "get your message across". You be a man, and handle it like a man.

>>59965407
>Oh you need a fucking piece of paper to give you rights?
As opposed to? What are laws, just writing on paper, fuck that shit amirite?
>Well than what if someone changes that piece of paper? Does that make you lose that right?
No, because that's unconstitutional.

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>>59960220
>its just that the majority hasnt been able to understand reality since 1992.
I had a shitty 1992, the adults were all out of sorts, I was only 7. Why 1992? I still have nightmares about the way adults treated me that year? Are you just picking a random year, or what is it exactly?

>>59964265
Oh, it's you again. Fuck off c u c k.

>>59966032
Soviet Union.

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So judging by the logic of the people complaining about race yet supporting black riots against police shootings, the federal government is only corrupt when the people being affected are black?

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>>59959608
This

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>>59960812

>>59965960
Aren't amendments changes to a piece of paper though?

>>59964851
he usually enjoys inflating the numbers

>>59966131
According to liberals, yes.
Seriously why does everything have to be about race with them?

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What, I think, alot of you aren't realizing, these guys at this federal land have fucked themselves out badly. The strength of modern US gov't psy-ops is real. You can't start to imagine the material, cyber and psychological shit storm that's coming for these silly, deluded men who have cornered themselves in their little winter wonderland.

If you think, for one minute, the authorities are doing "nothing" right now, you're just not thinking well, at all.

>>59966131
No one cares about "tyranny" unless their favored group is the one being hurt by it. Hobbes was right, tyranny is usually just a government policy that you don't like.

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>>59965960

>>Well than what if someone changes that piece of paper? Does that make you lose that right?
>No, because that's unconstitutional.

Changing the constitution is unconstitutional where you are from? Then how do these amendments work you got? Like the one that says that even special need guys like you can get a gun.

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>>59960192
Sounds like they are exercising their rights.

>>59966232
Because they've long since given up on Martin Luther King's dream in exchange for Malcom X's.

>>59959321
>tfw I work at a wildlife refuge

Guess I'm calling in sick this month.

>>59966322
>>59966191
I'm saying that changing the existing amendments to the constitution would be unconstitutional.

>>59960072
Who says they're on the wrong side of history? You? Liberals?

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>>59966188

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>>59960072

>>59966328

Let me get this right: Protesters should carry guns so they can kill cops when rioting? What kind of nigger are you?

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>>59966408
Dude wut?

>>59966288
nice ID

>>59966408
uwotm8
Do you not know how the Prohibition ended?

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>>59966127
>fall of the soviet union disillusioned american citizens
You think this is really what caused the situation in the current year? Like the fall of the Soviet Union stunned the psyche and we have never recovered? Like 9/11? That fucked my shit up.

Why would the fall change so much as to make them not grasp reality?

>>59960371
This

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>>59966483
snek time?

>>59966288
>tyranny is usually just a government policy that you don't like

As opposed to likable tyranny?

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>>59959321
>peacefully occupying public land
>flying planes into several buildings resulting in billions of dollars in damages and several thousand people who died in the most horrific ways imaginable

Totally alike! R-right guys?

>>59965503
>You stole that shit anyway

Says the Turk living in Germoney.

>>59966568
I'm not sure if this is what the anon meant, but I think it's because we had gotten used to a world with two superpowers. America always had and would always have a bad guy to fight. Then one day the bad guy disappears, and we've been looking for a clear-cut enemy ever since.

>>59965010
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/oregon-ranching-case-sparks-anti-government-sentiment-36048971

>Federal lawyers prosecuted the Hammonds under an anti-terrorism law that required a five-year minimum sentence, though they have declined to say why.

What was that?

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>>59966614
Stop stealing my pics

>>59964542
>invaded your home
They "invaded" an empty building in the middle of nowhere. There is literally not a single innocent person within tens of miles of the place. Tell me again how they are threatening anyone.

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>>59966614

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>>59966408

See? You're an idiot. Even your friends say that you don't know shit.

>>59966550
>The American school system
No

>>59966188
That's a big snake

>>59965842

You really don't even know the facts moonman.


Go derail a trump you paint licker.

>>59959321
I want Reddit to leave

>>59966550
They had to create another Amendment instead of editing the old one.
Prohibition is still there as the 18th Amendment, it's just three Amendments down the 21st Amendment just says pretty much "ignore that, big mistake"

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>>59964922
NIGGERS PLEASE..DID YOU FORGET YOUR CHIMPOUTS AGAIN?

Sorry the tag should say Dumb Niggers got the colours mixed up

NIGGERS ARE TERRORISTS
JEWS ARE TERRORISTS

>>59966745
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>59966807
How is that not changing the amendment?

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>>59966707
Don't see your name on them, fucker.

>>59966714
Did they even enter the building?

>>59966508
What is with krauts and their urge to disarm people? Oh that is right because if people had guns they wouldn't have been able to commit genocide. Get fucked kraut you deserved the berlin rape and dresden bombings.

>>59966550
With the ratification of the 21st Amendment, because you can't change the previous amendments.
>>59966729
Fuck off cockroach.

>>59964851

>https://www.patreon.com/ADobsonComics


YOU SEND MONEY NOW.

>>59966644

>>You stole that shit anyway
>Says the Turk living in Germoney.

Maybe you can point out to me where exactly Turks annexed territory of the Federal Republic of Germany.

>>59960192
Just like the constitution fucking intended. Thats the reason for the second amendment you fucking knuckle dragger. in case we wake up one day (govt infiltration is a slow, subtle process) and find that the government is no longer for the people, by the people, we actually have tools to save our own asses and property. Funny how that works.

>>59966935
I haven't seen any evidence they have. They parked an RV or two in the lot and have camp fires so it's more like they are just camping out in the lot of the building. Also they blocked the drive to the place with a pickup truck and draped an American flag over the sign.

Most of them are walking around unarmed and chatting amiably with each other.

Such an evil group of terrorists.

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>>59964922
You Niggers CALL HIM hero..

BUT HE IS ALSO A TERRORIST but thats different because he was a oppressed black man...

THAT FUCKING NIGGER KILLED SCHOOL CHILDREN AND CIVILIANS and you have the stupidity of saying "end white terror" STOP YOUR NIGGER TERROR!

Why do liberals pretend to be the good guys?

>White men occupy a building

"Evil, white supremacist, terrorist, male pigs! they're the real threat to society and they should all be slaughtered without trial like rabid beasts they are!"

>Islamic extremists kill a large number of people

"They didn't do it because of their religion, you Islamophobe! You just don't understand their culture you privileged white bigot!"

Can we stop tossing the 'Terrorism' around willy nilly? It seems the first people to use it have no idea what it even is.

For those of you who don't know;

ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun

the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Now this presents a problem. Clearly this definition would apply to every single government on the planet. Foreign policy, domestic policy, even the act of legislation is using intimidation to get what you want, after all every single law (good or bad) is a thinly veiled threat. "Do x or else we might have to kill you."

Theoretically, you could justify any violence the protesters do to any federal agents as counter terrorism.

In any case, walking onto public land and saying you will defend yourself if attacked is not terrorism.

But OP, occupying public spaces is an accepted form of peaceful protest. Like #Occupy and #BlackLivesMatter, #OccupyOregon is merely exercising their right to protest what they disagree with.

Whether you occupy roadways, sidewalks, city parks, docks, airports or wildlife refuges,

IT isn't any different. Not at all. And that's where you fail at being a sentient being and will remain a liberal.

Republican: everyone has rights, I want mine too

Democrat: we want our rights. You can't have yours.

>>59960078
Armed bands of black people roam American streets with impunity, the only reason they don't occupy courthouses is that there's nothing there worth stealing.

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>>59962524
>>59962315
>>59962070

Taleb is a statician and ex-investment banker. His ideas are pretty good and he has a few very good points.
His main point is warning about "fat tailed distributions": where lots and lots of (very) unlikely "happenings" add up to a quite large likelihood of one of the happenings to occure.


And if you follow him you will realize very quickly that he is a giant arrogant douche, this is also a bonus.

8/10. Very supportive of /pol/ happening posters.

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>>59966714

>They "invaded" an empty building in the middle of nowhere. There is literally not a single innocent person within tens of miles of the place. Tell me again how they are threatening anyone.

Oh ok, it's only breaking and entering when somebody's at home. Funny laws you got over there.

>>59967054
Its actually fucking disgusting. The lengths these people go too.

The whataboutism from these people, its symbolises the modern day liberal, the self-hating little white kike dividing filth.

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>>59966707

>>59965840
I thought Germans were known for their logic.

>>59966705
>Now, the federal government plans to send them back to prison because the presiding judge in the case refused to give the Hammonds the mandatory minimum five-year sentence under the terrorism act.

http://www.oregonfb.org/2015/10/05/sign-petition-savethehammonds/

The truth, from a shill site no less. Basically the original judge fucked up and their sentence should have been longer. Too bad but that's how things go. That law is from 1996 by the way, so it's not that new. They were charged under it but were not labelled "terrorists" by any stretch either.

This is what happens when you give the feds a lot of power just because you are afraid of muh muslims. Remember that.

>>59967127
Is breaking and entering considered terrorism in Germany too?

>>59959749
It is stupid to compare them to Al Queda, but they are worse than BLM. They are armed and have said they'll shoot any cops that try to remove them.

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>>59966948

>Oh that is right because if people had guns they wouldn't have been able to commit genocide.

What?

>>59962556
Well he's got a point in that the military won't defect over one incident like this, it would take a sustained stream of them over a relatively short period of time to get that ball rolling. As it stands if it's just an isolated group of guys occupying a federal building the National Guard will open fire. If it's dozens of situations like this all over the country then they might pause. I'm not sure what Bundy's goal is here, unless he's got a hell of a lot of reinforcements coming I don't know what this accomplishes.

>>59961467
That is not what happened but fantasies are fun right?

>>59959749
Because it is the current year.

>>59966508
Cops won't treat them like cattle when they are armed obviously.

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>>59966682
>we've been looking for a clear-cut enemy ever since.
Yeah man, when it fell, I was 7 and didn't know what it was yet. I actually found out at a library and a librarian showed me a map.

To go through elementary school, doing duck and cover, it would shape your life, then shift negatively when gone. If you are conditioned for something then it disappears, yeah, makes sense. I never considered this.

can someone give me a rundown on what the fuck is going on?

>>59967054
It's how they get their morals sense of superiority.
With that they don't have to listen to reason and can cling to their moral smugness for their only argument.
That's why "CURRENT YEAR" is a thing.

Half of me sympathizes with them.

The other half of me wants fucking Seal team six to drop them all in the dead of night.

>>59967231
I believe you KKK

>>59966774
Here are the legal facts:
>original judge was a cuck and refused to do his duty with regards to the mandatory minimum sentence
>feds take it to appeals who tell the cuck judge to give them the proper sentence
>ranchers start crying about how they shouldn't have to serve the full sentence because that's really not nice

Those are the facts. The jewy BLM is irrelevant.

>>59964851
STOP

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>>59962769
they set the fire themselves to cover up the fact that they had been poaching for years on public land

stop spreading lies you glenn beck loving faggot

>>59967127
1. it's not anyone's home, it's a public building which wasn't staffed for the holidays, there's absolutely nothing illegal about visiting the place even off-hours
2. there's no accounts of them even "breaking in" to the building, they appear to be camping out in the lot
3. even if they did "break in" to the modest cabin, how exactly does that constitute terrorism? Who was terrorized?

>>59966508
If the threat of escalation isn't there, they'll treat you like the cuck pussies you are and just drag your ass out of there.

>>59966641
Of course it's alike, I mean it's 2016!

I like these militia people

I love watching the feds get cucked. They know they can't do shit. And if they go in and kill everyone, they'll see what real terrorism looks like.

>>59966729
Please do not post edited versions of Horsey's cartoons

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>>59967323

>Cops won't treat them like cattle when they are armed obviously.

Cops won't treat them like cattle if they don't behave like a pack of niggers. And carrying a gun at a protest actually give the police a pretty good excuse to use force on your nigger ass.

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>>59965407
You liberals DO NOTHING BUT HIDE LIKE PUSSIES.

Do you really do anything to stop crime? answer no you "stand by the victim" after with support But you supported the crime by doing NOTHING.

Hope you become a victim of a serious crime and watch as your fellow Liberals Cuckolds do nothing but video and stare....

Enjoy you liberal "freedoms" if you have ANY left

>>59964265
>germany
>fact checking
Ookay Merklebot

>>59967332
Read this, ignore the bootlickers, judge for yourself.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

>>59967054
Conservatives are just as bad

>BLM peacefully occupies a university quad or a highway
>FUCKING COON NIGGERS WHY ARE BLACKS SO STUPID I HOPE THE POLICE KILL ALL THOSE DARKIES

>armed militia storm a nature reserve and announce they'll kill any police that come
>WHY IS EVERYONE CALLING THEM TERRORISTS THEY DINDU NOTHING WHY ARE PEOPLE POINTING OUT THEIR RACE?

>>59967461
What did the two people getting sentenced do, that started this?

>yallqaeda
>yeehawd
Completely inaccurate but pretty clever.

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>>59959321
ok.

>>59966508
When over 100 people are armed and know how to use their arms the police treat them with respect. They don't bully them or herd them like cattle, they tread very carefully and try to keep things civil because if violence does erupt many police will likely be killed along with the armed protesters and it will be a national debacle.

This is EXACTLY why we have a 2nd amendment.

>>59964652
You seem to be under the impression that there's something wrong with this picture.

>>59967541
But niggers do suck :^)

>>59965536
It sure as shit is. They had their chance to appeal at the sentencing, and while they were in prison.

It is years later. This is definitively double jeopardy.

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>>59967435

>1. it's not anyone's home, it's a public building

Try getting into the CIA headquarter or the White House using the same argument. I want to see how long you last.

Just to make this 100% clear, these people should not be held accountable for their actions whatsoever, especially if they're being compared to terrorists. You know, because we're letting bad people in already, and clearly they get a nice handout rather than condemnation. So really, once all is said and done, these people should be given a nice fat check, and make sure they're fed for life.

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>>59959321
ITT: how did we get on the internet if we cant read xDDDDD

>>59964562
Fukken rekt.

>>59960192
>what are the blak banters

>>59967217
One German is trying to catch up to years of combined Australian and Canadian shitposting, but it might not end well

>>59967541
>>FUCKING COON NIGGERS WHY ARE BLACKS SO STUPID I HOPE THE POLICE KILL ALL THOSE DARKIES
Who said this? I remember /pol/ laughing about them making asses of themselves and accomplishing nothing.

>Its leaked Obama plans to introduce new gun control via executive orders
>There is an armed militia insurrection over something stupid

This is so clearly a false flag.

>>59967591
I thought that was what would happen if only white males were allowed to vote?

>>59967539
>http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
thanks

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>>59967541
>BLM peacefully occupies
>peacefully

>>59960362
Terrorism is violence for political means. Period. So yes.