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Syria General /sg - the /Comfy Hours Before Sunrise Edition

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Everything you need to know
https://syriagenerals.wordpress.com

>SOUTHFRONT Jul 21
https://youtu.be/SfvXUswSj-M [Embed]

>Newest Interviews with Assad
https://youtu.be/UlXRv8tf5Z8 [Embed]
https://youtu.be/arHsOcXeN2Q [Embed]

>Live MAPS
https://globaleventmap.org
http://syria.liveuamap.com
http://militarymaps.info
http://www.cartercenter.org/syria-conflict-map

>Fan maps
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem
https://twitter.com/miladvisor
https://twitter.com/a7_mirza
https://twitter.com/hamza_780
https://www.edmaps.com
http://www.syriancivilwarmap.com

RECENT MAPS
>E Sy Jul19
http://imgur.com/a/IvIWW
>Raqqa CS Jul 14
https://i.imgur.com/LbXpnXP
>SE Syria Jul 14
http://i.imgur.com/jNIPt6k.jpg
>Hama/Homs Jul 14
https://i.imgur.com/qI9fBCO
>Palmyra Jul8
http://imgur.com/a/TcJPO
>E Ghouta Jul8
http://i.imgur.com/FrqMjam.jpg
>DeZ Jun 10
http://i.imgur.com/erzKYcC.jpg

Developments Jul22
>Govt forces captured Sabkhawi in southern Raqqa.
>Hezbollah military media: Large military groups of nusra raise 6 white flags signalling surrender
*Unconfirmed: SAA on verge of entering DeZ Gov from S Raqqa
>Lebanese Army kicks off Qalamoun offensive, Syrian jets attack
>Tiger Forces advance 5 km through IS-held territory in S Raqqa
>SAA declared media blackout, incl social media
>SAA beat back IS assault in SE Homs(near Iraq border), IS took 3 POW's & armament
>Raqqa: SDF claims 40% of city
>Trump to end lavish CIA support for ‘moderate’ anti-Assad forces in Syria
>al-Zenki group changes sides from HTS to Ahrar al-Sham, while others leave Ahrar al-sham and join HTS
>RuAF takes out IS HQ in E Hama
>SAA and rebel forces exchange artillery and missile fire in Latakia
>REPORTS:Israel to build new field hospital to treat militants in occupied part of the Golan Heights
>Pentagon furious after Turkey leaks US base locations in Sy, Turkey denies
>Russia to deliver large batch of T90 To Iraqi military in 2017
>IS captures bridge checkpoint from the Iraqi Army in western Anbar

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ASSAD WILL WIN!
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Heres the news posted by SANA over the last 24 hours.

plus the updates

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And here are some ME + Qatar Crisis Latest

*Deep goncern over Jerusalem deaths. Egypt, France & Sweden call for UNSC meeting.
*Lebanon PM in Washingtong for meeting w/ Trump, Mattis & Tillerson
*Qatar’s BeIN sports network back on air in UAE
*Erdogan to meet MBS & MBN on 2-day Gulf tour
*MSM publishes several articles on cholera crisis in Yemen
*Tillerson calls on Arab states to lift blockade on Qatar
>Qatar Emir gives first speech about crisis
>Iran Deal certified by Trump
>Oman FM meets Tillerson in Washington; Oman recognized as liaison to Iran.
>Kuwait expels Iran diplomats after terror plot
>Qatar amends CT law, US to deploy officials. UAE welcomes move.
>Omani FM in Washington
>US Congress to introduce Three Bills against Hezbollah
>Hundreds of foreign cows continue to arrive in Qatar; camels still dying.
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>>134600437
do you even sleep ?
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at this rate the thread will die.
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GREATER SYRIAN UNIVERSE S O O N
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>>134600828
have a free bump before im off to sleep
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>>134600828
I can go on a posting spree again if you need it
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The war's end is in sight! We've reached the beginning of the end!
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>>134600887
>missing mi nombre
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>>134600768
it's only 6 pm here
and I wasn't even firstposting for half the day
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Impeach the orange clown!
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>>134601044

that's what we've been saying since the end of aleppo, cowtits shitposter
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>>134600981
that might be needed.
i think if we keep up a post every five or so it should make it. too much of a spree just makes for waste.
but if its interesting stuff. or u feel a need to share, go ahead. I literally cannot stop you
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>>134601192
okay i thought you were a collective of autists taking turns to firstpost while the other groups went to sleep
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S O O N
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Explain why I shouldn't want Trump to crush assad like the ant he is.

under assad rule:
>repressive regime
>kills innocent protesters
>puts children in political prison, rapes and kills them, send the bodies to parents
>no freedom of speech
>no democracy
>no due process
>frees muslim brotherhood members
>divides country along sectarian/religious/ethnic lines
>shit at economics
>shit at fighting corruption
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Assad must step down and let the Free Syrian Army install a democratic government
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>>134601568
>>134601553
mmmm
Thank you, it is uma delicia
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>>134600672
>linking only to your own posts
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>>134601761

How many more dead children will it take for assad to realize he should turn himself in to the USA?????
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>>134601261
Indeed.

>>134601684
Because Assad's government is actually:
>Good government
>killing people who protest by shooting guns at people
>puts ISIS in political prison, and sometimes kills them with emergency wartime laws
>has freedom of speech, as long as you aren't supporting ISIS, al-Qaeda, or another group that is at war with Syria
>has democracy, but is reelected anyway since it's so good, becoming a democratically-approved monarchy
>has due process unless it's a serious emergency
>Kills Muslim Brotherhood members.
>Unites people regardless of sectarian lines, but then faces revolts from al-Qaeda and ISIS
>Market reforms were being implemented before the US began its invasion of Syria. However, these were suspended to focus on war efforts.
>prioritizes fighting ISIS and al-Qaeda over fighting corruption
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>>134602421
Assad is a dictator and has committed war crimes, leaders like him shouldn't be tolerated.
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>>134601332
>al Quds
Bro, I know.
And I share the sentiment.
But it is always like this, time to time kikes do something horrendous, and its up in the news boohoo ebil kikes then a couple of weeks later everyone moves onto the next hot news WHILE kikes remain dominant.
I'm sick of this cycle, wake me up only when we are in a heli and about to paratroop onto the motherfucking TelAviv.
>shi'a hate
Not exactly. The nature of Hizbullah conflicts with the essentials. Can I take a walk towards the territory they hold, give them a Selam, and go unharmed and uncontested? Fuck no. I wouldn't feel that my property and life would be the safe around them. You should know what I'm pointing at. May Allah rescind the error of their ways, and put them on the right path.
>infighting only serves Israel's interests more than our interests in the region.
Aye.
Literally read this part of my post here. >>134597333
>Generic D&C kikery, business as usual.
>TL's note: D&C means Divide&Conquer
When the shovel comes to push, you need dependable brothers to cover your back. Not the pointy end of the dagger right on your skin.
>>134601693
Why post that terrorist though?
>I can't comprehend this.
You have answered your own enigma.
>want to know more about it.
That is an attitude. Start with basics.
I'm dying from the sleeplessness so I can't continue writing more, sleep tight.
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>>134602733
Trump is a dictator and has committed war crimes, leaders like him shouldn't be tolerated

Obama is a dictator and has committed war crimes, leaders like him shouldn't be tolerated

Bush etc etc etc
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just for you poland bro
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>>134601761
can't they win an election for themselves. is it because they are a tiny minority?
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>>134602421
>>has democracy, but is reelected anyway since it's so good, becoming a democratically-approved monarchy

This is false. The Syrian elections are as fake and rigged by Russian influence as the 2016 presidential election
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>>134602733
>a dictator
Do you prefer Osama bin Laden's son or al-Baghdadi? Maybe al-Zenki?

>has committed war crimes
So has the Free Syrian Army, ISIS, al-Qaeda, and the Kurds.
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>>134601693
>there is a possibility of a change in the hadith like every story that is transmitted from a generation to the next one verbosely
A possibility yes. But he selected only the ones that were exactly the same one region from the other. And since communications weren't developed back then the chance of having a corrupted version spread across the caliphate is zero.

>Bukhari said to know 600000 hadiths and chose 7000 of them
Indeed the compiled part is only a fraction. Because most of the Ahadiths he wasn't 110% sure of the authenticity.
But for more explanations you'll need to ask an expert on Ahadiths.

>I don't want to give examples to offend you but I can if you want.
Boy, i'm on /pol/, nothing can offend me anymore. I can take all insults on my Din without getting any more angry. I'm here to test my faith and it only grows stronger.
If the claim is true (which never happened) then i look into it because i'm not afraid of truth, there can be no faith if you have one atom of doubt. Otherwise i disprove it.
But again i'm just a regular Muslim so my knowledge is limited.
But ask anyways. If i don't know the answer i'll just tell you.
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>>134602180
brasil bro done it twice, i just copy pstad his blurb
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>>134603002
>implying that it's only a choice between al qaeda and assad
SDF would be a great secular modern government for Syria that's why I'm glad Trump supports them.
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>>134602979
>as fake and rigged by Russian influence as the 2016 presidential election

so u saying free and fair.
obviously
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>>134601261
>La plata
Thanks
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>>134603257

So you want even less people represented in the Syrian government? I thought you wanted representation.
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>>134603291

glad you liked this exclusive meme, here have another
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>>134602979
So not at all...in fact, they're rigged against Assad, then! Good catch!

>>134603257
Communism already failed, dumbass.
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>>134603046
Nah never mind, this discussion gives a sour taste in my mouth and we can't reach anywhere like this.
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>>134603257
>SDF would be a great secular modern government for Syria

err kurds make up 6% of the syrian population. so that is the sum total of the possible base of sdf support in an election - given all the goodwill and ethnic cleansing they have been carrying out.

again - they are unelectable. and assad cannot stand for election again anyway. its against the constitution. so it's a moot point.

anyone fsa, sdf can contest the next election. but lets face it, they dont have the support of the people.
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>>134603420
There would be representatives for all the people. That's what the SDF is fighting for. There will be real elections not 99% for Assad type bs elections.
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>>134602771
So far only Hizbullah and Iran are the real threats to israel's existence (aside from fake controlled opposition).
As Iran's influence grows stronger in the region isreal is legitimately scared for it's existence because they know that they cannot defeat them like they did in the six day war (see israel war in loubnan in 2006).
Until you can find me a Sunni organization that is as highly organized, trained, and well equipped as Hizbullah, then I'll stand beside them during the Malhama.
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>>134603644
So you're fighting for a Communist state which will have a token puppet party as opposition?
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Hurr durr
Muh democracy.
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>>134603513
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>>134603612
How so ?
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>>134603632
There will be free and fair elections based on a form of government set up by the SDF. It won't be ruled by the Kurds even though it probably should be.

If you want stability you should be rooting for the SDF.
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>they support a long-necked, chinless 3rd-world shitskin
kek
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>>134603856
>If you want stability you should be rooting for the SDF.
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>>134603787
They're not communist they're democratic.
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>>134603257
>Unironically supporting mountain goat herding incest filled gommunistic nomads
Back to The_Donald you go
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>>134603644

Have you been to Iraq recently? That doesn't work.
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>>134603930
Just fuck off already you're embarrassing us.

SyriaBros, this faggot does not represent the US people.
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>>134603257
HAHA ... SDF

SDF started as rebranded YPG , same shit different name
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>>134603989
Actually it works great Iraq just fought off and defeated ISIS in their last stronghold
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>>134604064

He's a shill that is bumping the thread. It's fine until something happens. Well, until everyone gets bored saying the same old talking points to the same old neo-con bullshit.
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>>134603291
quick rundown on the meme ?
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>>134603257
and if u didnt pay money to FSA to fight under SDF banner , everything what would have left of SDF is YPG
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>>134604064
>defending anti American mudshit dictators over liberty and democracy
Fuck off
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>>134604119

You should do standup.
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>>134603835
If I ask you about the hadiths which is false to me and doesn't make sense, you will get defensive and angry and it will evolve to something else. And I don't think it is up to us to discuss these matters.
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>>134604064
>SyriaBros
top cringe

>this faggot does not represent the US people
he actually does. he's the most american poster there is really. his post is what most americans believe and think. you sensitive faggot.
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>>134603257
u are either shill or u are clueless about what SDF is
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>>134600828
Hope I'll prompt some (you)s to revive the thread m8
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>>134604283
quite an assumption here buddy
shoot anyways
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>>134603856
>There will be free and fair elections based on a form of government set up by the SDF.

cool story bro.
but happily I get to break it to you.
no there won't. the sdf simply hasn't got a hope in hell. not even one.

if I want stability, as I do, the last thing I would want is for an ethnic minority ( not just a non arab in a majority arab country ) that is the third generation progeny of mothers who qualify as mothers only because they have a womb to capture passing soldiers semen in, and who come from turkey in the 1920's, to take the 93 % majority arab nation forward.

that would be the absolutely last thing anyone who wanted stability would want.

what I want is the territorial integrity of syria and it's people. I want the kurds to get greater recognition within the state of syria. and the permission to larp with kurdish cultural practice or community cirle jerking and sissyfying their men. whatever.

But no autonomy, simply the right to whatever other syrians get. simple. the alternatives are the possible break up of the tukish state and all that it entails for 70 million people to be disturbed.

rojava can go fuck itself.
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>>134603930
kurdistan started off as a dream the soviets helped to hype up in the 50's.

why are you so keen on promoting 1950's cold war soviet destabilisation tactics - which is what kurdistan is.
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>>134604064
>this faggot does not represent the US people
yeah no
neo cons didn't elect themselves
the pro assad americans are a minority
most of US citizens are still drinking the muh democratic gommunist kool aid
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>>134604064
don worry. he is fun. actually he is a troll or seriously disturbed. i think we got two of them.
they not very good tho.
you didn't think we were dumb enough to just judge a whole nation on one citizens retardedness did u?
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>>134603821
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>>134604283
common. shoot, and tell us why you think it cuts to the heart of whatever matter.
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>>134604661
They're not communists because the USA would never support them
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>>134600377
Israel all but admits they have been waging war in Syria
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/07/20/israeli-general-we-wont-let-iran-win-the-syrian-war/
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>>134604343
i think its going. good tempo. having trolls helps.
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>>134603046
>I'm here to test my faith and it only grows stronger.

Then you are a moron. Please refrain from writing.

http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=4&verse=13&to=14
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>>134603644
>Implying our elections are anything other than a tv show to fire up the goyim by discussing gay marriage.

Heh, keep voting :) one day it'll count, right? Assad already explained how the deep state runs the us, not the president or erections.
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>>134604988
so what did you think of the link i gave you ?
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>>134604895
US wouldnt support communists , good laugh
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>>134603930
>>134604064
You're both faggots.
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>>134604895
filthy k*rdshit, its time to stop
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>>134605087
>believing a 3rd rate dictator over someone like trump
fuck off you dumb abo
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>>134604348
>>134604892
Alright here it goes.

>"The prayer is ruined if a donkey, a black dog, or a woman pass in front of a man who is praying" (Bukhari 8/102, Hanbel 4/86).

>"The verse, which ordered that the adulterers be stoned to death, was written in the footsteps of Ayşe's tile. While the Prophet was dead, when Ayse was busy with his burial process, a goat who had come in through the open house of the house ate that verse and thus the stoning penalty came out of the Quran; But judgment continues "(Ibni Mace 36/1944, Hanbal 3/61, 5/131, 132, 183, 6/269).
Seriously?

>Bukhari 63/27.
This one is also interesting. Talking about monkeys committed adultery...

>"The Prophet never peed on his feet" (Hanbel 4/196; 6/136, 192, 213).
>"I saw that the Prophet peed on his feet" (Bukhari 4/60, 62, Hanbel 4/246, 5/382, 394).

The is one hadith talking about prophets sexual power being equal to 30 men...

And so on...
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>>134605208
You're next once assad and Iran are dealt with, shut your trap.
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>>134604895
US supported Stalin and Soviet Union for years literally during and before WW2 because it fited their geoplitical interests
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>>134605324

haha, outed.
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>>134604895
who gives a fuck if they are communists?
jesus.
we care that they are structurally insignificant. we care that they cannot but create destabilisation within turkey. if such a state were declared it would drive iran, turkey, iraq and syria into a war against such a state. possibly with russias backing.

it's interesting that now that iran is friendly with russia and syria, now is the time the yanks want kurdistan. in the 50's when russia was the outsider in the middle east then they wanted it.

kurdistan will never happen. certainly not in northern syria. probably not in northern iraq. either turkey will annex parts of syria, or the safest thing the kurds can do is suck assads cock.
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>>134604895
After war they were anti/communist because their greatest geopolitical opponent was Soviet Union
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>>134605233
Watch the interviews and decide for yourself.

Assad is composed and able to discuss topics honestly, trump is like a pro wrestler, he says things that get a reaction and then it's forgotten.

Basically I'm implying we live in a deep state dictatorship, with make pretend elections. The evidence is overwhelming sadly. Trump isn't the president, he's the mascot. Obviously Hillary is the worst, but I'm only including that so you pay attention to what I said rather than just get triggered because I said trump is a mascot.
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>>134605092
when?
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>>134605499
>>134605413
How can you guys be so bluepilled and be on pol?
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>>134604895
United States gives military and economic aid to communist Yugoslavia


http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/united-states-gives-military-and-economic-aid-to-communist-yugoslavia
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>>134605233
based trump
shitskins btfo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BASED JEWS!!!!
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>>134605583
Just learn how US supported Communist Yugoslavia
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>>134605267
incidentally peeing on your feet is one of the best ways to control athletes foot. so i guess if the prohet was wise he peed on his feet.

seriously, if u got athletes foot stand in your own piss for 5 minutes. then wash your foot. the athletes foot will be gone in a few hours

the clue is in where the feet are
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>>134604895
The Jewnited States of Amerikwanzaa is a Communist regime. Fuck off Yankee.
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>>134605583
-nu/pol/ incarnate poster
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35 countries where the U.S. has supported fascists, drug lords and terrorists

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_backed_international_crime_partner/
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>>134605889
Is hang over piss more effective? The extra thick and cloudy stuff with a almost chemical twang to its scent
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>>134605984
Please archive
https://archive.is/2SB8S
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>>134604283
shoot it already
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>>134605583
You're the one who's bluepilled. We're anti-Communist. You are, as Stalin would put it, a useful idiot.
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>>134605583
phew lad.

have some bad oc
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>>134605889
It's talking about pissing while standing, I might translated it wrong.

>>134606051
>>134605267
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List of authoritarian regimes supported by the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States
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>>134606161
i heard some of it
there were 2 hadiths in one muhammad was standing while pissing and one he was sitting while pissing
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>>134605996
it's the ammonia that does the killing
so the stinkier the better. the ammonia is a waste product of the metabolic process - so morning pee is perfect. just pissing in the shower can ward off athletes foot, but if u got it, u need to do some standing.
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>>134605984
>implying supporting Fascism is bad
WRONG
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>>134606161
i get it. but the occassional splash is actually a good thing.
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>>134600377
How long until we start having South African generals?
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>>134606440
based zio-fascism amirite my pede?
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>>134606440
trump is a faggot ,to dumb to be anything , he is neither fascist neither democrat ,he is clown
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Hey guys, i'm back. Here is Hafez at beach yesterday.
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>>134605583
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>>134606550
Urong

>>134606566
Tbh he's more intelligent than 100% of people who say "DRUMPF IS RETARDED"
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>>134606548
if nothing improves maybe as soon as 5 or 10 years. but if someone can hatch a destabilisation of some sort much sooner. i just dont think anyone has anything to gain. and i cant see the event. islam wont work down here, we got no heavy tribalism, the economy is tanking. maybe some kind of rabble rouser can whip up victimhood into a frenzy. but i think the army would be able to deal with them. i can't see it.
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>>134605267
REEEEEE
stop insulting my faith filthy kuffar
more seriously

It is true that there is a lot of weird shit considered as Sahih (authentic) by the Sunnis.
The thing is you'll see that the Hadith used by Sunnis are from different sources than the one used by Shi'as (for instance the shi'a don't consider the Hadith from Aisha as legit, for them Aisha was a kaffir, which i may or may not agree based on the fact that she fought against Uthman during the Battle of the Camel even though during Muhammad's (saws) life time he said that there will be a time when everyone will be against him (Uthman) and he will be right, referring to that particular battle when most of the Sahaba fought alongside Aisha)
Most, if not all the Sunni Hadiths that have sexual content that could be considered as depraved are coming from Aisha.

In all fairness i don't think that i'm a very good source for you on Sunni Hadiths because i'm still questioning myself on whether the Sunni or the Shi'a sect is the real one (partly because of the weird Hadith from the Sunni books).

I hope my answer doesn't disappoints you.

But you are very right to question these things, as i said faith cannot be true if there's hypocrisy.
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>>134605567
sorry wrong guy
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>>134606879
Well if there ever was a war I know there would be a shit ton of Americans willing to fight on the whites side. Just need to figure out how to smuggle all our guns over lol.
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>U.S. working to mitigate Turkey's concerns in Syria -Joint Chiefs Chairman Dunford, who says he's visited Turkey 12x past yr #AspenSecurity
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>>134606440
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>>134606879
>islam wont work down here
how is it even an option ?
no one is spreading islam in SA
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>>134606838
he is ,but he is still dumbo that probly is regreting right now that he ran for president
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>>134607165
if something goes south here, it probably wont be a race war thing. it will be a class war thing. which may amount to pretty much the same thing, but maybe not.

if it erupts in some rural hot spot like central natal kwa-zulu it might not affect whites at all.
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>>134607231
i was thinking aloud.
the locals are mostly christian. they dont like islam. it is the religion of the amandiya (the injuns), christianity is for black people.
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>>134607713
>they dont like islam
they don't like anything from outside of SA Boers included*
ftfy
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>>134606899
Nah, it's okay. I came from an Alawite family, their beliefs has weak and strange points too (12 imams) but at least Alawites are more tolerant towards the other religions and atheists. They have not forced anything on me thus I was able to question things.
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>>134605324
Underrated retardation
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>>134608128
if i'm not mistaken alawites do believe in reincarnation right ?
i find it very conflicting with the tenants of the quran
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>R&U vid about Muhaysini talks about the """FSA"""
https://youtu.be/jEWIljpztd8
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>>134608208
Nope, never heard of it.
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>>134608222
>FSA
you're on the wrong board mate
let me help you
>>>/x/
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>>134608316
ok
what's your POV on islam if you don't mind asking
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>>134606440
>tow someone actually adores the buffoon
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>>134607789
they are happier with boers than they are with africans from other countries. during the zenophobic violence in the 2000's over 70 000 foreigners were living in UN camps for displaced people. plenty were killed and beaten. not a single white person was harmed or even threatened.

but whites are in a precarious position.
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>>134608389
Well, since it's used for ruining my country, not so good. Muslims in our country are easily deceived. But as long as it doesn't effect me and my way of living, I don't mind. Not just Islam, I have the same attitude towards any organized/expansionist religion.
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>>134608465
>but whites are in a precarious position.
indeed
the worst mistake whites did was giving up the power and becoming a real minority
now that they're the one with the gun in their hands, one can only expect some attempts at revenge
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>>134608343
lol Muhaysini even confirms it
also
>some dank houthi footage
https://youtu.be/y1nWNJRB_Sg
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>>134603787
>Communist
This is a meme desu. Just look at the constitution of rojava and their actions so far. Nothing really suggests they want to become a communist state
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>>134608222
checked and saw that elsewhere.
>did you know that there is no such thing called FSA?
>the revolution came out of mosques, by the people who suffered from the oppression of the tyrant who permitted all kinds of freedom but not freedom of worship
tfw all those billions of dollars for headchoppers while selling a lie and destroying a country
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>>134608590
> since it's used for ruining my country
well allow me to say (no offense intended) that you turks wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for islam to allow you to transit from a nomadic society to a sedentary society and thus forming an empire that marked history.
You cannot sum up the impact of islam in your country on what a bunch of retards are doing today.
(again no offense intended)

i'm assuming you're more of a Kemalist ?
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>>134608711
>some dank houthi footage
now we're talking
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>>134608711
>be me
>it's 5 am
>haven't slept all night
>i'm watching some dank houti footage in my appartment
>i get very pumped up at every successful hit
>i start screaming "allahu ackbar, al mout i amrika, al moutli israel, al la3nat lil yahood, al nasr lil islam"
wtf am i doing with my life
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>>134608811
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>>134609269
we know that feel frere
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>>134608957
>you turks wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for islam to allow you to transit from a nomadic society to a sedentary society
I don't agree. What makes us a sedentary society is simply the geography. Muslim turks who are living in asian tundra are still nomadic, it's a matter of survival.
Islam surely had positive impact on the history of ottoman empire but we are living in 21st century. You have to move on at some point, you can't rely to traditionalism that much.
Nowadays, islam is just holding us back from development, and scientific progress. I have no doubt we would be better without it.

>i'm assuming you're more of a Kemalist?
I admire Atatürk and most of his ideologies but I wouldn't call myself a Kemalist.
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>>134609269
>5 am
>still no sleep
>lagging behind in writing my master thesis
>raging over Crunchyroll not being able to play the last two episodes of the anime I was watching for some reason and reloading the page, closing and reopening browser, turning off and on modem and computer endlessly in the last two hours

>wtf am I doing with my life
I feel you m8
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I'm off. I think the last two threads were good n meaty.

al mawt al mawt.

Good night.
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>>134609771
>What makes us a sedentary society is simply the geography. Muslim turks who are living in asian tundra are still nomadic, it's a matter of survival.
i disagree, from my perspective, if the turks kept their culture they would have tried to exist in anatolya while trying to raid the neighboring empires, which would have led to their destruction.
the conversion to islam allowed you to get strong allies in the region.

>you can't rely to traditionalism that much.
>islam is just holding us back from development, and scientific progress
also disagree, traditionalism and religion isn't necessarily holding back a society from progress
take a look at spain under Franco, he did rely a lot on traditionalism and support from the religious groups and manage to rule the country and improve it
today spain is slowly turning into a shithole because the people are lacking a moral compass and are guided by their primitive desires only
while you've got muslim nation that are making good progress in the scientifically department (iran, Malaysia, morocco) it's not western europe tier but it's progressing
i think the real problem is corruption and corrupted leaders using religion as a tool to keep their place.
what the muslim nations need is honest and ambitious leaders.

>I admire Atatürk and most of his ideologies but I wouldn't call myself a Kemalist.
what would you describe yourself politically ?
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where are you finnbro?
give us dem rules please!
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>>134609771
>Nowadays, islam is just holding us back from development, and scientific progress.
It isn't Islam which is holding you guys back, it is the "arab cosplaying" which holds you back.
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>>134610881
here
it's the same rules
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolejka_%28game%29
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>>134603930

Yeah, no.

The "Democratic" moniker was chosen by US Special Forces in order to give the SDF some legitimacy

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-military-force-us-out-syria-army-official-640650?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
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>>134602922

If tax is theft, rent is what?
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>>134611251

invasion of the NAP
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>>134611309

Always Lucid, professor.
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>>134611251
Racketeering.
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>>134611082
>print and play version
thank you anon!
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>>134611568
>Racketeering.

Interessing
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I've been gone for a few days senpai. miss anything good?
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>>134611793
A migraine.
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>>134611793
yup i get this feeling when its full moon and a non cloudy night.
its strange
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>>134610647
>i think the real problem is corruption and corrupted leaders using religion as a tool to keep their place.
That's what happening in Turkey since 1950's. That might be the main reason why I think islam is bad for our country, it is just to open to exploits.
Can you give me a recent example of a muslim country ruled decently?

What kind of scientific progress are you talking about Iran, Malaysia and Morocco?

>what would you describe yourself politically ?
I am not sure, I don't think current political ideologies like marxism, capitalism, anarchism or liberalism are relevant. We need a better system, that's for sure. Participatory democracy is not working for us, that's for sure. It would be folly to ask for a society without classes. I have to think about this.
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>>134610999
What exactly is it that you consider as "arab cosplaying"?
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>>134612050
Can migranes happen without headaches ? As I've never had a headache in my life.

>>134612069
The moon this summer feels closer. And yeah I feel like shit whenever its visible at night.
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We must secure a homeland for the Kurdish people in Syria. It's the responsibility of the USA to ensure that those secular, western freedom fighters are supported against Assad's regime
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>people debate legality of US prescence as if it matters in last thread
it's illegal and unethical but lmao freedom and Israel XD
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>>134612777
kurds cannot into 1488 since syria is not their homeland and they are illegally engaging there
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>>134612590
Turkey tries to fit in among arab nations by being sunni. You guys should demolish all that sunni, shii, alewi stuff inside Turkey and form your own way of Islam. As long as you guys keep those sects, you'll be always arab cosplayers.
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>>134612652
>Can migranes happen without headaches ?
Yes.
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>>134611251
Payment for use of a building or a portion thereof.
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>>134612777
Tell your mother I secured her a homeland on my dick.
>>134612937
Oh
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>>134612175
>Can you give me a recent example of a muslim country ruled decently
depends on what you mean by decently
if you mean a country where life is good i would say morocco, algeria, lybia under gadaffi (press F to pay respects), indonesia (biggest muslim population), malaysia (even tho they have sharia law)
although they have corruption problems, life is at least as good as in eastern europeans countries

For iran i know that they're developping modern weapons of the same generation as russians, chineses and american today. Very few countries are developing their own weapons today (most countries import them). They also did some good progress in rocket science. although it's more for a military use, at least they aren't like the shit leaders of saudi arabia that sit on a ton of money but produce nothing and resort to importing everything.
As for morocco they're getting some very high technologies in the agriculture department (in cooperation with israel, but that's another subject), i know that for Algeria there's a domestic development of nuclear energy funded by the government without foreign support. For Malaysia if i'm not mistaken they achieved some breakthrough in the medical department (something i read about vaccines)
the progress toward first world countries is real but slow due to low GDP

pic related a very fucking sad testimony
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>>134613043
It could also of course be a brain tumour.
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>>134613710
>inb4 it's McCain LARPing as a syrian to get free medical diagnosis because it's too expensive in USA
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>>134612012
Hezbollah gains at the lebanon-syria border
Other than that not so much
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>>134613668
F
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>>134613668
>that pic
(((they))) really fucked libya up desu
>>134614318
F
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>>134612012
>>134614215
There is a lot of stuff going on in southern raqqa with tribal forces under tigers but not 100% confirmed due to media blackout.
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Verily General Gaddafi wasn't only a hero for the Lilyan people, but a hero for humanity, a true patriot that loved and cherished his country and his people.
Rest in Peace Gaddafi
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>Belgium Molenbeek Sheikh Bassam Ayyachi
>AQ-Central-connected veteran
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/888889094100717568

gn guys
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>>134614730
while he did do a fucking incredible amount for libya, he was still considered worldwide to mostly be a joke, and he was mostly known just for being reagans and clintons scapegoat
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>>134613668
F
>>134614215
>>134614667
Ah kk. Ty m4+4s. Will take hezzie gains 4 sho
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gotta keep that thread alive
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>>134614918
>implying the opinion of shit leaders that do the bidding of lobbies while shitting up their nations is relevant
until the day they can do so much for their nation as Gaddafi they don't have a right to an opinion
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>>134614994
Well I hurd the kurds r super feminine and democratic
>monobrow traps take over Middle East
>never pls
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>>134615188

can't forget the commie part

that is incredibly important
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>>134613668
Iran is doing stem cell shit too if I recall
>>134615134
I just wish they didn't just use him for prestige, although it could be claimed Gaddafi got more from Reagan than Reagan got from him
He will be missed by those who know what he actually did, and likely missed by Europe as the illegals continue to boat in
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>>134614994
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>>134615188
they aren't, it's all propoganda
Kurds can't into ideology
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>>134613668
Life can be good in a lot of places, including here, if you isolate yourself.
But our society is becoming more and intolerant and divided every day.
Life is expensive, taxes are too high, no rights, no freedom, no justice,
politicians are corrupted as hell, people are ignorant and hard to communicate with etc etc.

We also develop our own weapons to some extend, but by scientific progress,
I mean having space program, creating new and more efficient ways to produce energy,
being able to produce and export quality electronics, advancing on stem cell technology,
having capable people to improve neural networks and AI and it's uses in industry, so on and so forth.
But you are right, these are hardly related to islam when you think but somehow I link them in my head for some reason.

That pic is really sad indeed. It is sad to see Gaddafi and his united africa dream vanish like this.
>F

>>134613896
kekked
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>>134615334

Remember when Aleppo was the death of Erdogans dreams?
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>>134615460
ahh the good ole times when we didn't know who would win
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>>134615313
You know what pains me the most ?
When we'll be in our 70's he'll be remembered like hitler is being remembered today
Slandered by the MSM and the future generation will use his name to curse people
And when we'll try to tell the world who he truly was we'll get spat on and called dictators boot lickers.
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>>134615544

2014, worst year of the war
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>>134615572
Don't start giving me those feels anon...
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>>134615572
that's implying we won't collapse by then, I'm still hoping we do
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>>134615398
>But you are right, these are hardly related to islam when you think but somehow I link them in my head for some reason
indeed otherwise one could argue that christianity hold back nation by pointing out africa and latin america while forgetting that the problem is corruption
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>>134615572

I barely know much about Libya post-colonial, I need to learn more about it. The most I know is the Toyota War and the effort to try and implement a de-desertification policy.
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>>134615572
Dang... gotta fight the historical rewrites as they occur. Like people tweeting positive shit about McCain.

>>134613896
Lol..
(My apologies if you're browsing here for medical advice John... just go towards the light. Or the fire rather, just go towards the fire, you'll do great down there)
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>>134615847
back in the cold war era the dystopian future was a nuclear holocaust
today it's the utopian future

Pic excessively related
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>>134616011
>implying the historical revisionist didn't end with his death
it's too late now
death seems like paradise compared to this timeline
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>>134615572
This. My grandmother (2nd generation italion imigrant) was a real unlikeable bitter person with no love for anyone or anything. When she died, I helped my father look through and sort her things. Found two amazing photo books: one of the hitler visiting mussolini and another of mussolini visiting the fuhrer. Amazing photographs. She was bitter, unloved, died alone. In retrospect, she was prolly redpilled af. I kept the books btw.
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>>134613043

Syria bro, is it true that you guys believe y'all beat Israel in the 70's?

My Aleppo bro and I were listening to Good morning Syria and a few speeches of Assad's father, and when i asked what he was saying my aleppo bro told me he was commemorating when Syria beat Israel in the 70's..

But we all know that Israel btfo everyone again because US intervention. Do y'all count it as a victory still? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>134612012

you missed me redpilling everyone at the game with SAA flag.. was on the NRG big screen 2 times at LEAST.
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>>134616030
>>134616204
Don't lose hope anon, there are are still strong men among the unfit.
no era lasts forever, the zionist globalist machine is crumbling as we speak.
hopefully once this is all over the world will be a better place for our children and grandchildren who were fortunate enough to not live in this era of death and suffering.

shit i got inspirational all of a sudden
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>>134616204
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>>134618206
can you post some pic from your grandma's photo book ?
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>>134618318
Not at the moment. But next time I go to my storage I will! It's actually two books, each comemorating the visit of the other to each others nation.
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>>134601684
(you)
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>tfw realize my pic STILL wasn't perfect enough
Not enough desu
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>>134618206
what is her rate?
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>>134601761

Hi Hillary
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>>134618450
She isnt turkish lad
She doesnt whore out to neets
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>>134601684
Because Syria is not a part of the US, mind your own business.
It's that simple.
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>All this /ptg/ shills this night
>Not knowing that Assad already BTFO Trump already

heh
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Daily remember
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>>134618837
>/pol/
>friends with trump (aka best goy)
You spelt reddit wrong lad
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>>134612777
The US will ditch the Kurds like they did in Iraq once they realize their goals cannot be achieved.
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>>134618937

True
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>>134618713

Thread's dead otherwise
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>>134618713
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>>134618940

I think that YPG/SDF are shitting in theirs pants right after Trump finished FSA/HTS support. And if US support for kurds is gone, Iran/Syria/Turkey/Iraq/Russia will make them surrender or face genocide.
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How many people do you think have died in the war anon? I'd say probably about 750,000+, what do you guys think? how many do you think die an hour?
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Good thing you lads are here I thought all of you had gone to sleep.
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i'm off to bed lads
keep the bread alive
press F to pay respects to General Muammar "miss me yet" Gaddafi
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>>134619207

you know as much as we do that /sg/ never sleeps
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>>134619093

I knew about those gains 2 days ago, holy shit that fucking break down is azaming
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>There are strikes of Russian Aviation in Hama province

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmXNVGsIWxE
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>>134619257
Good night doc
F
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>>134619154
too many
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>>134619302

I'm on vacation till 16th of August, so late night watch again
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>>134619207
No ban can keep me from shitposting and posting anime girls
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>>134619302
That is true
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oy lad did you get the link to greek anons megumin folder?
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>>134619409
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>>134619470
was meant for>>134619409
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>#Syria #Aleppo Failed Assassination attempt on director of Aleppo office for "Syrian Resistance" in Aziziyah District by IED in his Car.
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/888991610947719168
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>>134619409
You're not evading, are you?
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>>134619369

where too chilebro?
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So have the YUGE GAINZ near the euphrates, announced before I went to sleep, been confirmed?
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>>134619615

In my bed, i'm poor, maybe next year i will travel somewhere
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>>134619676

so far all we have is tweets, no pics as of yet i'm afraid, but we can assume yes it's confirmed
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>Syrian Army within reach of Euphrates River in southeast Raqqa: map
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:55 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) resumed their offensive operations in the southeastern countryside of the Al-Raqqa Governorate, Saturday, targeting the Islamic State’s (ISIL) positions near the Euphrates River.

Led by their Tiger Forces, the Syrian Arab Army scored another advance in the southeastern countryside of Al-Raqqa, capturing a number of villages that were under the control of the Islamic State militants.

>According to the Tiger Forces’ official page, the Syrian Arab Army liberated the villages of Al-Dakhilah, Bir Al-Sabkhawi, and Al-Sabkhawi in Al-Raqqa’s southeastern countryside today.
With these villages liberated, the Syrian Arab Army is now withing reach of the Euphrates River and the Deir Ezzor provincial border with the Al-Raqqa Governorate.
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>>134619676

Remember the university near Raqqa? Tiger Forces meet those guys and blocked SDF to reach Deir Ezzor in Central Syria
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>>134618625
>trusting women
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>>134619799
is that really confirmed tho?
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>>134619707

ayyyyyy hahaha good one. I hope i can visit Santiago next spring break, planning on visiting Columbia, Chile, Brazil and Uruguay recommend anything?
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>>134619499
I got the german ones collection
>>134619545
N..no of course not sir
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>>134619776
forgot link: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-within-reach-euphrates-river-southeast-raqqa-map/
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>>134619875
https://mega.nz/#F!ATQzhIpR!5hjpeLxGHNmZvEGOHh2pMQ
here you go lad.
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>>134619860

See >>134619895

Also NDF and some reporters near the front confirmed it via jewbook.

>>134619864

Do it next year, with Bachelet around, is a shithole desu
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>VIDEO: Syrian Army uses all types of firepower in east Damascus, watches rebels flee
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (1:00 A.M.) – Fresh footage emerged on Saturday depicting the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) using all its military resources against insurgents in the embattled Ayn Tarma district.

The video features a SAA command center, machine-gun, rocket launcher, artillery gun, drones monitoring rebel fighters retreating, an airstrike, a tank and a bulldozer.

Although advances are slow in Ayn Tarma, government forces – led by two brigades of the Republican Guard – are slowly making their way towards the city center after liberating the southern sector earlier this month.

Since launching the offensive last month, the SAA has been met by stiff resistance by Failaq Al-Rahman (FSA branch) while its ally Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham (Syrian Al-Qaeda branch) also maintains a presence in the suburb.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-army-uses-types-firepower-east-damascus-watches-rebels-flee/
video in link
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>>134619997

still riots senpai? Good Lord are the socialists still in power there?, need pinochet-type of leader back
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>>134619965
BASED PAKIBRO
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>>134620119

Not riots but multicultiralism and nigger from Haiti everywhere, also we're not a 1st world country yet, so people here is shit, except the ones who think before act like me.
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>>134619895
>>134619997
>mfw gains are now confirmed
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>>134620257
this black out on news about SAA operations has been one of the most frustrating things I have ever seen.
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Guys,
Assad has dropped Russian-made barrel bombs containing chemical weapons, such as sarin gas, on the last hospital in Damascus, which was treating moderate civilian children who had large followings on social media due to their heart-warming tweets, detailing their plight but also their resistance against an oppressive government.
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>>134620116
>ALL KINDS OF FIREPOWER
what ebin song is playing in that vid?
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>>134620490
nothing wrong with that.
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>>134620229

I speak and read Spanish but i still don't understand what this lady is saying in the fb post. Also mind you that my ex-fiance has the same name as this girl in the post so i think she is a degenerate off the bat already lol

But ewwww Haitians....
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I'm a dropout NEET loser who lost his virginity at 24 and has no future prospects due to crippling bipolar disorder but I wouldn't trade my life for the world because I can sit here in the cyberpunk era and cackle at purposefully shitty borderline surreal meme images about a telenovela civil war that I've been avidly following for 6 years on 4chan and Bronnen.net/int/
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>>134620716

wew lad go outside, I can imagine your room being a pig stye that smells of food and jizz...
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>134620716
you mad mattis?
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>>134620716
>on 4chan
>not already a Loser
We lost when we first came here lad
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>>134620850
>his room doesnt have the manly musty smell of jizz and frozen food
Lmao @ yo lyfe
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>First Faylaq al-Rahman modified T-72. And take a look in some of tunnels-some for cars in Jobar.
1/4
https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/888899459555438592
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>>134620116
why is it taking so long to capture ayn tarma?

>>134620490
they are worst then cockroaches, how many fucking times does basher need to gas them before they actually die
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>>134621103
2/4
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>>134620994

cleanliness sri lanka something your kind doesn't understand the concept of, i'm sorry ;).

Kidding aside, i'm just a neat freak have to have my place smelling and looking nice.
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>>134621152
3/4
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>>134621218
4/4
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>>134621124

>why is it taking so long to capture ayn tarma?

Urban warfare is fucking deadly and slow desu, you have to clear room by room and block by block, and tunnels, it's nothing like open desert or plains for Tiger forces.
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>>134621124
They have built tunnels massive enough to even allow cars in their. Surely you can see that its not easy fight.
see https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/888899459555438592
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>>134620116
>and a bulldozer.
wat, are they learning anti insurgent tactics from the iraqis now?
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>>134621152

Jesus they can fit a skid steer in there? Good Lord they can move hella amount of ammo and supplies through there, impressive desu!
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>>134619345
not enough
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>>134621297
>>134621321
wew lad, i know they had tunnels but i didn't imagine thme to be huge.
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>>134619154
six trillion goy.
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>>134621297
And what's worse is that the SAA can't take advantage of its superior firepower in the close quarters of urban environments. Any attempts at bringing tanks or IFVs into a position where they can fire at the enemy is likely to have them destroyed by AT weapons. Artillery isn't much use either, low-angle guns can't get to the target and even if they do, fragments do little against concrete walls.
It boils down to infantry fighting infantry without any effective means to establish fire superiority, which with modern weaponry is a slow and gruelling effort, requiring great skill and independent action from leaders and fighters of all levels.
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>SAA using 2S3 Akatsiya for direct fire...
https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/888888470311247872
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>>134621152
>>134621218
>>134621242
Impressive, are those ISIS tunnels?
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>>134621055
Lets hope they succeed master baker.
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>>134621055

You what? This might be the plan, closing ISIS only to Iraqi/Syrian armies
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>>134621721
HTS or some other ((moderate group)) but they all are the same thing.
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>>134621777

checked, nice digits my dude
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good morning
have the tiger gains in raqqa been confirmed?
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>>134620229
>brallan
he is from colombia isn't it?
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>>134621946

I can sure that "Brallan" as a name exist here.
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>>134621931
good morning hans
see https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-within-reach-euphrates-river-southeast-raqqa-map/
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>>134619895
There is still something fishy about all this. Al-Sabkhawi is about 18 km South East of Dalhah and Ukayrishah. The picture from that article doesn't look accurate. In other words, at least one of three claims must be wrong
1. The claim that they took Al-Sabkhawi
2. That they took Dalhah and Ukayrishah
3. The map from that article is inaccurate
anyone know???
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>>134622098
cool cool
I should go to bed desu
have a good one, either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvxt8GwctO4 or pic related
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wtf are you doing hoholmaps?
>>134622115
pic related
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>>134622115
What is required is official confirmation from military sources till then confusion will remain.
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>>134622484

>Hoholmaps being hoholsmaps

Every single time
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>>134622440
lad I though you just got up. Anyway sleep tight
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>>134622440

Good Night, Hans

Hey goys, Reuters posted something saying that (((Someone))) fired a Rocket in the Gaza Strip ...

Casus Belli?
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>>134622681
Prolly PIJ being niggers and firing bottle rockets. Not uncommon from them.
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>>134622896
>Prolly PIJ being niggers and firing bottle rockets. Not uncommon from them.

E-eeeeh

This was intercepted by the Iron Dome...

But Ok, bro.
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Some info on the under development Russian UAV "Orion" from MAKS2017
http://twower.livejournal.com/2116677.html?utm_source=twsharing&utm_medium=social
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMt2fbDl62Y
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>>134622980
Not uncommon. PIJ or some other shit faction that Hamas can't control will fire the ocasional rocket. IAF responds by leveling agricultural farmland, or bombing some buildings.
But who knows with kikes if what they say is true.

also, BAKING and then I go to sleep!
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>>134622484
well...
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>>134610647
:(
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>>134623186

O-Ok Bro.

Thanks :DDDD
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>>134623526
GAINERUS
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BREAD

>>134623571

>>134623571

>>134623571
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