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Developments Jul22
>Hezbollah military media: Large military groups of nusra raise 6 white flags signalling surrender
*Unconfirmed: SAA on verge of entering DeZ Gov from S Raqqa
>Lebanese Army kicks off Qalamoun offensive, Syrian jets attack
>Tiger Forces advance 5 km through IS-held territory in S Raqqa
>SAA declared media blackout, incl social media
>SAA beat back IS assault in SE Homs(near Iraq border), IS took 3 POW's & armament
>Raqqa: SDF claims 40% of city
>Trump to end lavish CIA support for ‘moderate’ anti-Assad forces in Syria
>al-Zenki group changes sides from HTS to Ahrar al-Sham, while others leave Ahrar al-sham and join HTS
>RuAF takes out IS HQ in E Hama
>SAA and rebel forces exchange artillery and missile fire in Latakia
>REPORTS:Israel to build new field hospital to treat militants in occupied part of the Golan Heights
>Pentagon furious after Turkey leaks US base locations in Sy, Turkey denies
>Russia to deliver large batch of T90 To Iraqi military in 2017
>IS captures bridge checkpoint from the Iraqi Army in western Anbar
>Egyptian forces start large campaign against IS in Sinai
Prev >>134556325
Some news via SAbro!
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>>134567894
Assad will lose Inshallah.
>>134568476
>SAbro
>being that much of newfag
fuck off moneky
Kurdistan will prevail over the evil and corrupt Assadist Arab forces.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct60HLlbsXw
>5-year-old girl fined £150 by council for selling homemade lemonade
https://www.rt.com/uk/397077-lemonade-fine-girl-council/
Danish law when?
Seriously though it's what parts us and the bongs, this would cause mayor civil unrest here. as in we would have gone for the head (lit) of those people
>>134568559
These threads have been so tiresome for the last couple of days, i couldnt even get myself to remind everyone that kurds must be destroyed. And than this fag takes over. Guess it proves my point
>>134568836
Kurds are gonna get Kurdistan thanks to the US.
200 #FSA Saraya al-Sham fighters in #Arsal surrendered to #Hezbollah/#Lebanon army
https://twitter.com/AllyOfTruth/status/888831688880599040
Markito reporting in
#Syria #Assad-forces advance fast through desert on #Euphrates valley with strategic highway crossing & river bridge east of #Raqqa city
https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/888832993258876929
>>134568881
It will be interesting to see how it plays out
>>134568881
improved and better Sèvres 2.0 when?
New (16 hours old) R&U video:
>Battles for Syria | July 21st 2017 | Eastern Damascus updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKBEc0ELVYk
>>134568881
That would be very good for Turkish-Syrian relations.
>>134568800
Do you got a lemonade license there little girl!?
No?
We'll tare your shit down there and meet in court!
>Pathetic
It's why we don't tolerate bongs here, with their stupid laws
Read up on the cultural wars in the 1800ds
>>134569195
It's more of an issue between Turkey-NATO relations. The US has interests that currently go directly against Turkey's, despite them supposedly being allied.
>>134569195
Well erdogan did say that there is no possible way that he will allow a terrorist state to form on his border. Maybe we will see Erdogan-Assad pact to destroy kurds
>>134568476
One last minor piece of news
http://sana.sy/en/?p=110480
>People’s Assembly discharges Mrs. Hadyiah Abbas from her post as Speaker
Damascus, SANA- People’s Assembly issued a resolution on Thursday discharging Mrs. Hadyiah Abbas from her post as Speaker,with a majority of member votes.
“The Assembly held a session today to discuss its internal regulation, meantime, Speaker Abbas, prevented some members from submitting their interposition and she turned a blind eye to their willingness to discuss a number of articles according to the constitutional rules, then suddenly she announced the end of discussions,” a statement by the PA said on its website page.
The statement added that some members opposed the voting, insisting that the discussions didn’t end, describing the Speaker’s behavior as “irresponsible and illegal.”
Later, in light of the democratic principles, 164 members submitted a request to discharge Mrs. Abbas from her post as a speaker.
The assembly held a session at 8.00 p.m. and issued a resolution to discharge Abbas from her post.
>>134568556
>being a kike
>>134569304
>>134569293
So the kurds can't be funded by the ((((((US)))))) as a last effort to take out assad because it would fuck relations with turkey.
you a smart motherfucker Assad
The end of the zionist regime is coming soon. The world will see they are the true terrorists
>>134569195
Do you got a lemonade license there little girl?
>No?
I guess I'll see you in court
>>134569550
kek okey dokey, why do they leak prostitutes on youtube?
>>134568556
Jewish Jew.
>>134569615
No no no. The US doesn't seemingly give a fuck about what Turkey thinks. The US is already funding Kurds, has 10 military bases in "Kurdistan" and is supporting an independency referendum for the Kurds. They absolutely are working one taking a slice out of Syria to counter Russian and Iranese ambitions in the region.
>>134569739
for educational purposes, obviously
Hahahahaahah
شام| اشتباكات بالأسلحة بين عناصر أحرار وتحرير الشام في مدينة إدلب، ودعوات لخروج المدنيين في مظاهرة لوقف الاشتباكات بين الطرفين.
>>134568964
pls be real
>>134569785
then why isn't Erdogan going apeshit shouting "turky stronk we keel you" they are literally funding their enemy
>>134568556
hnnnigger monkey
>>134569785
But than again, erdogan doesnt give a fuck what USA think, he's been sheling Afrin like a madman. It will be interesting to see how this plays out
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>>134569903
So may be we will go to cafe?
>>134569950
Multiple non-gov sources confirming:
>https://twitter.com/AllyOfTruth/status/888823424151412738
>>134568964
>markito
wew
haven't checked his twatter in ages
>>134569984
wat cafe
ما مقهى؟
someone was talking about the "eurasia party" last thread ended up finding this....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
fuck may tr to find a translated cop and have a read seems interesting to say the least
>>134569785
Answer the question for yourself, if you were US, wouldn't you like another proxy like Israel, this time in "Kurdistan"?
>>134570142
في آخر مناقشة سألت الفتاة البولندية في المقهى ، على ما يبدو انها ليست لك
>>134570010
>>134569955
Well erdogan does shell Afrin all the time, and does his proxy thing. He cant yet go full on total war on kurds
>>134568559
>>134568964
TRUE IF HUGE
>>134570288
I was on my phone and indeed I disagreed, Dima
>>134569955
Because Turkey isn't actually that stronk. All they can do is oppose the Kurds directly, but not the US itself.
>>134570142
french bolandi ?
it's أي
not ما
if you're asking about which one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ7kNo-SOcc
>>134568882
Other sauce besides the tweet?
Can someone explain to me why there is a Assad controlled citing is the middle of the Islamic state?
>>134568964
Fuck yeah
>>134570381
No, I'm المنشود ليوث أسود أهل السنة الرايات السوداء قادمه بحول الله وقوه منه باذن الله تعالى bolandi
>>134570283
>israel being america's proxy
Are you sure it is not the other way around my man
>>134570428
they just chilling there.
waiting to get hit by ghetto isis artillery
Reality check for Yankees
"#US contributed to #ISIS creation, now tries to claim victory over it" – #Iraq's Vice President
https://www.rt.com/news/397171-iraq-vice-president-victory-interview/
>>134570462
Oh well, it works both wayz :DDDD
>>134570010
>>134570518
Mashallah
>>134570416
hay faggot ,do u know who Markito is ???
You do not question Markito.
>No it's not. It was a joke.
>i-i was only pretending
pathetic
>Unintentionally.
baking down again
pathetic
>I didn't elect it.
changing the subject i see
the point is that democracy led to it and if there was a dictatorship it would have never happened because a dictator doesn't want to loose control over his population by importing foreign elements
>>134570462
>>134570539
It kind of does... but I wish it wasn't the case at all
>Assad makes peace and allows kurds to form Kurdistan
>America sets up bases in Kurdistan
>Years later
>Inevitable Kurd-Turkish war breaks out
>Assad helps kurds
>America is now a Syrian ally together with Russia
Roaches chess mate
>>134570331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW4JsxnI194
>>134570626
>if there was a dictatorship it would have never happened because a dictator doesn't want to loose control over his population by importing foreign elements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Immigrants_to_the_Soviet_Union
>>134570653
Stand with Israel you idiot, what are you, Judeophobic?!
>>134569293
NATO only applies to the Eastern Thrace region of Turkey. Therefore, the US can back the Kurds, and as long as they don't invade any European territory of Turkey, it's OK.
>>134570428
Deir-Ez-Zour is special because of the local airfield and a military base being so close to each other with a small city nearby. Excellent place to dig in and hold out.
The local forces are also lead by a very capable leader.
>>134570518
kek
>>134568964
>>134569950
>>134570010
>SAA captured Dakhilah town, Bir Sabkhaoui and Sabkhaoui gas field, south Raqqa CS
https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/888810651992412160
We also got this Watanisy tweet earlier
>>134570416
markito is so anti-gov to the point that he unironically supports isis
he has no motive to lie
>>134570621
I wouldn't dare to but as a rule of thumb one should always back his stuff with several references.
>>134570732
no ADL pls stop! Stop calling the children of holocaust survivors anti semites for heing anti Israel!
>>134570660
>when Assad and Putin really can't stop winning everything
best timeline
>>134570830
..other than working in favour of SDF & IS reporting about SAA gainz during the forced media black out
>>134570813
Where is the paint? Paint it red
>#exclusive : this is the big Advance which didnt Advance till today SAA Tiger forces arrived and liberate Dakhleh الدخيلة village as map
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/888844455809298433
>>134569785
>The US is already funding Kurds,
Correct.
>has 10 military bases in "Kurdistan"
Correct.
>is supporting an independency referendum for the Kurds.
Not correct.
https://web.archive.org/save/http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/240620173
At least that's the attitude they show in their foreign relations. They might support it behind the doors, we don't know. But we've already said that we won't let a k*rdish state at our borders. Any M.E. country is also opposing a second Isr*el.
>>134570724
>insignificant immigration (more emigrations than immigrations)
>mass immigration with open border policies
changing the goal point i see
or maybe you'll try to argue that this immigration was enough to both cause cultural enrichment and subvert the authority of the state
>>134571019
HUGE
>>134571081
>changing the goal point i see
What exactly was the original goal point? I said right at the start that just because something has not existed in the past doesn't mean it can't exist in the future. Globalism is a relatively new movement and a globalistic dictatorship could very well exist in the future. Go look up Coudenhovi-Kalergi, his ideas and how the EU is ultimately built on on his and similiar ideas. Mass-scale multiculturalism belongs to this ideology and a totalitarian federation or state could very well further these ideas.
Is anybody real allies of the kurds?
T*rkey hates them
Assad just uses them to fight rebels
The US/Israel funds them for their ((((master plan))))
seems that nobody really likes them
GAINZ BHOYZ
>>134571208
HUGE
>>134571208
If true.
>>134571327
A bunch of European states are helping Kurds, but mostly in Iraq and it's probably just for experience.
>>134570660
And assd still gets third of his country taken away. Why in the world would assad ever work woth kurds. Kurds must be destroyed
>>134571019
>>134571208
C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D
Did somebody say "gains"?
Good evening lads
>>134571360
>https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/888844455809298433
It's from Yusha, so I'm inclined to believe it
>>134568964
reposting for lulz
>>134571208
>>134571344
He keeps hearing that.
>>134571208
Kotel?
>>134571403
I guess he views it as a situation in which its better to lose a leg than your head
>>134571483
Yes but most importantly cutting the Kurds off from advancing further along the Euphrates
>>134570626
>opposing democracy and monarchy
You are retarded.
>>134570724
>can't even link an actual page on immigration to the USSR
Pathetic.
The CIA not only armed Syria's insurgents--it paid their salaries. - Financial Times
>>134571635
Nigger J*w wannabe, don't you dare to give me a (You)
>>134571561
Well you cant claim to not let go of one inch of syria and than give a third of the county to fucking kurds. That would just be hipocracy
How does this make you feel SG ?
If we map "sdf" areas by the same method used for other factions, how irrelevant would it seem ?
Why dey do dis ?
>>134571295
>What exactly was the original goal point?
dictatorships don't allow for mass migration, but you prefer to be against it so enjoy your alternative
>Globalism is a relatively new movement
implying it didn't start during the 18th century
implying what we're witnessing is only the same process but accelerated
>Mass-scale multiculturalism belongs to this ideology and a totalitarian federation or state could very well further these ideas.
implying they would need a dictatorship to rule a mongrel sub human race when they can fool them easily with democracy where both parties are controlled
why being blatantly a dictatorship when the people are dumb enough to be fooled with american style democracy and thus eliminating the threat of revolution
>>134571702
not an argument
>>134571731
Err yes Reuters reported this months ago, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-rebels-idUSKBN1601BD
>>134571789
Their excuse will probably be something along the lines of "these are the areas we can confirm those forces have full control over, and aren't giant areas of desert." But you're right, it's propaganda. They don't even include forward bases they must know are there.
Somebody explain me this, what does alleged march on Deir ez-zor means? Is it only to capture the oil fields near the city or does it include the government held areas aswell?
I mean, U.S. is gonna use both SDF and rebels, which is a problem in itself since they don't want to work together because they are enemies. But on the other hand, can SDF really take the risk to go to an all out war with the government especially when the situation this tense with Turkey and while Raqqa offensive is still on-going? Or am I missing something here?
>>134571789
>How does this make you feel SG ?
implying i give a fuck about what delayed dead bodies think
>inb4 bosniak reply
>>134571789
>Hezbollah dominated
>stretches literally to Damascus and Homs city
>regime
Hmm I used to think ISW wasnt so bad, but this is obviously propaganda drivel.
also they totally ignored the Hasakah military base and its surrounding area which is actually pretty big
kek
The Syrian army Tigers reach the outskirts of Euphrates basin after controlling exotic town adjacent to swampy southern town in the Euphrates basin directly in rural Eastern tenderness
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/888850544428810243
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/888844455809298433
Huge!
>>134572435
the absolute state of Daesh
>>134572435
how do you forget to shave when you're applying make up on your beard ?
>>134572257
Sdf regions would look even smaller than idleb, that's why.
It should be mapped exactly like isis regions, like a thin strip.
If we treat government areas like they did with sdf, it would be the biggest btw.
>>134572405
We are a all delayed dead bodies.
>>134572421
This is obviously made for someone with obviously no knowledge of the situation.
>>134572483
Fucking Yusha selling SAA information...
>>134572483
>exotic town
Very exotic
>>134571789
>How does this make you feel SG ?
>"""hezbollah dominated"""
>regime
>>134572483
the same guy that denied the gainz earlier is now saying the opposite
>>134572500
>>134572435
burgers created this
>>134571731
How gay is the USA?
>>134572095
>dictatorships don't allow for mass migration
You have yet to have provided me with convincing argumentation to back this. A Coudenhovi-Kalergi brand globalist totalitarian state would very well allow mass-migration into the state.
>but you prefer to be against it so enjoy your alternative
I think both are shit. I never said I support the status quo, of concentrating power and uncontrolled political decisionmaking by unelected bureucrats, liars and traitors.
>implying it didn't start during the 18th century
>implying what we're witnessing is only the same process but accelerated
Learn to use the meme-arrow, Abdul-hassan. >implying lorem ipsum is the correct form
It did start earlier, but only in the recent decades has its push accelerated, since due to modern communications and globalization, it's more feasible.
>implying they would need a dictatorship to rule a mongrel sub human race when they can fool them easily with democracy where both parties are controlled
But what difference is there in reality, whether it's a hidden authoritarianism or out in the open? It's all centralization of power, which is the thing I told you to kys over.
>why being blatantly a dictatorship when the people are dumb enough to be fooled with american style democracy and thus eliminating the threat of revolution
Because social media and fake news. The old media used to be perfect for controlling the narrative, but thanks to the internet, any dumb pleb can go online and read truths about the world, to get redpilled, as was still fitting to say a few years ago. If the state can't control the narrative, it can only use force.
>>134572435
Holy fuck
>>134572405
It's always good to remember that kurds must be destroyed
>>134572500
>>134572435
Is ISIS made up of nothing but closet homos?
>>134572675
Not as bad as MENA, but not better than Germany
>>134572585
>Sdf regions would look even smaller than idleb, that's why.
aye. They also have to hide the fact that they are supported by a lot of NDF/(((FSA/NySA)) militias, as well as the fact that the Kurds are a fraction of the population, even in the areas they control.
>>134572585
>We are a all delayed dead bodies.
in my timeframe they're the delayed bodies not me
>>134572616
#JustArabThings
>>134572728
>>134572333
>what does alleged march on Deir ez-zor means?
To relieve the years-long siege on the town. It has been encircled for three years now and it's located smack-dab in the middle of the remaining relevant ISIS-held area of the country. The march on Deir ez-Zor is the march to destroy ISIS in Syria.
>>134572828
And in my lifetime you are the delayed deadbody.
>>134572814
They would never make a population map.
>>134572435
No way is this real.
>>134572863
Eh, advise me Belgian lawgoy, since I trust you somewhat. Should I have fun with 3 Asma-tier milfs at once, or keep drinking upstairs and lurking /sg?
>>134572951
How much of the population is back under government control now? I heard something like 93%?
>>134572951
>implying i care
>>134572483
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.819623&lon=39.239645&z=14&m=b&show=/25644769/ar-Rahbi
I think this is the village he's talking about, under a different name
>>134572728
called it
>>134573040
With Raqqa, DeZ, Hasakah it's around 80%
>>134572728
>>134573051
You care enough to give me a (you), camoo
>>134568964
Damn gains while im here on your beaches enjoying the sun F a m
>>134572951
If you take ISW for what they are (a US government think tank), and can filter for it, they provide a lot of good information, especially how the US perceives a specific area (which is usually wrong or skewed in some way that is convenient for their policies).
It's a lot to filter around, though, so it may not be worth it.
A population map will be buried in a CIA fact book on Syria, so they probably feel like they don't have to.
>>134572940
I am not sure you understand the context of my question. I am not talking about the march of government, I am talking about the U.S. march.
>>134573236
You're better than him, just look at the flags
>>134573277
But the US isn't marching on Deir ez-Zor, is it?
>>134572728
are you a bosniak or a serb?
>>134573320
Maghawir at-Thawra (faggots of the """revolution""") were shipped by air to Hasakah governorate to launch an offensive on Deir and paint it Team Piss.
ITS NOT FAIR
HOLD ME BROS
I THOUGHT THAT ASS*D AND THE SAA LOST THE MOMENTUM
>>134573236
wait yout're a kurd ?
my whole point was that i intend to outlive the kurds
i don't care if you outlive me or if you die before i do because i have no reason to hate you
unless you're a k*rd
>>134573010
>have fun with 3 Asma-tier milfs at once
define "fun"
asma-tier sounds like it's worth it
>>134573423
Bosniak
>>134573435
So, are they just looking forward to lots of dead Kebab, or is that force going to consist 90% of US SOF?
>>134572500
Top Kek
Holy shit, when did pic related happen?
>>134573522
KYS
>>134573520
Eat, drink, benis
>>134572500
Ok, let me get this straight. They rather get caught in womans clothing than dying in a fight or killing themselves?
>>134573589
Last couple of days
>>134573589
>teleports behind you
>drops barrel bombs
psh... nothin personnel, tovarich......
>>134573557
>or is that force going to consist 90% of US SOF?
>>134573607
Nah
>>134573010
Go with the milfs, anon. Always go with the milfs
>>134573621
did you fall for the fearless jihadist meme?
>>134573789
Dawlat al-Drag Queen Islamyiah
>>134573272
Yeah a good way to know what the enemy thinks.
I should have said that they wouldn't attract the goyim's attention to the population facts. Of course they have detailed maps of everything. Even population maps of different sects.
>>134573505
Oops nah I ain't a kurd.
Nothing personnel, kiddo
>>134573010
How did you score 3 at once ? Are you a god ?
Or did you pay ?
>>134573789
Why didn't we hear about these huge gains sooner? Was it the media blackout?
>>134573462
SAY IT WITH ME
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>>134573655
What? Weren't the gains that cockblocked the kurdshits reported fake? And this was the first time I saw those gains and I last checked the maps 5 hours ago at most
>>134573873
I'm very handsome, very wealthy and I have a huge dick
>>134573911
Yea
>>134573911
yup
>>134573616
do it buland
>>134573911
Yes, it's 7 days of blackout now and something tells me it wasn't loyalists, it was mkhabarat aljawyyia idea
>>134574071
Better than altar boys, wish me luck
>>134573988
It's really a clusterfuck of the information due to the blackout, but these gains seem solid now
>>134573963
looks comfy
>>134573990
>>134570660
Alternately, Syria and Russia might exploit Turkish anger at the "betrayal" of US backing an independent Kurdistan into a new alliance with Turkey. This would grant Russia:
> The destabilization and potential destruction of NATO
> Control over the Black Sea
> Control over the Bosphorous Strait
> A strong ally in the Caucasus and the Middle East
http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/22-july-government-forces-captured-sabkhawi-in-southern-raqqa
>>134574134
post pics of gainz afterwards
>>134574134
Post said milfs.
Just so we can assess the situation better.
>>134572713
>You have yet to have provided me with convincing argumentation to back this
already told you why, go look for it (also if you think i'm wrong provide me with one example like i asked for)
>A Coudenhovi-Kalergi brand globalist totalitarian state would very well allow mass-migration into the state.
again talking about hypothesis that would imply many factors that you are assuming
i don't deal in hypothesis only in things that work and things that don't
also as i said the Coudenhovi-Kalergi doesn't need to be a dictatorship to enslave people
it can achieve such with invisible walls (reference to 1984)
>Learn to use the meme-arrow, Abdul-hassan. >implying lorem ipsum is the correct form
resorting to ad hominems ? you know what it means
>But what difference is there in reality, whether it's a hidden authoritarianism or out in the open?
because it's not totalitarianism
thus proving my point
>any dumb pleb can go online and read truths about the world
this would imply that even the dumbest of society today are the people being redpilled to a significant level
it's not
the dumb people follow whichever narative sounds the best for them and follow it whether it's true or false
just look at niggers they're the least redpilled and will constantly be silenced with government enslaving through soft means (welfare, tv, drugs, alcohol, no need for dictatorship)
>inb4 le token based negro
you're missing the endgoal of the Coudenhovi-Kalergi plan
>>134574134
good luck my dude, also >>134574433
>>134574228
>>134574255
God I hope that happens, the karma would be incredible.
>Assad must go! We will start a war in Syria to achieve this!
>end result is the destruction of NATO, a cementing of Iran's power and influence in the middle east, and a crippling of U.S./Israeli hegemony around the world.
>>134573462
you must be clueless lol
>>134574737
>already told you why, go look for it (also if you think i'm wrong provide me with one example like i asked for)
This is a complete non sequitur. Just because there is no past example of it, does not mean it cannot exist. A federalist dictatorship of multiple countries with a globalist, multicultist ideology could very well try to dilute its population, so nationalist sentiments do not arise and the people are easier to control. This is already being done, even without totalitarianism, though the functions of the EU are far from democratic, or accountable to the people.
>again talking about hypothesis that would imply many factors that you are assuming
>i don't deal in hypothesis only in things that work and things that don't
Then why have this discussion in the first place? Why hypothesise on future political functions in Western, first world countries, instead of focusing in the here and now?
>doesn't need to be a dictatorship to enslave people
And I never said it HAS to be.
>resorting to ad hominems ?
That is not an ad hominem, you moron.
>you know what it means
It means you're probably Reddit, since like them you think an insult not used as an attempt at discrediting the argument counts as ad hom.
>you're missing the endgoal of the Coudenhovi-Kalergi plan
No. I just don't quite follow your argumentation here and we are vastly digressing from the original point. You support totalitarianism and I am against the concentration of power, regardless of if it's in the open or disguised as democracy. Mass-immigration can very well occur in a totalitarian system, as well as it does in the current, soft despotistic system of the EU. A totalitarian system is only beneficial so long as its rulers are benevolent and wise.
>>134573462
Get rekt Julian
>>134574138
finnbro where the rules?
>>134575757
What the fuck did I miss when I was gone from /sg/ for a few days?
What is this media blackout of the SAA ? Huge operation ongoing ?
>>134575874
there is an /sg/ game out there designed by a finn
>>134574888
This seems good but I don't like the idea of the Turks being let off their American leash. Because we all know that king roach is hell bent on becoming first sultan of the neo Ottoman Empire.
I need new map from Ebin.
Waiting for all the qt freed female slaves to appear from Raqqa
I was watching a docu about an hour ago and a Jihadists wife said the fighters had a phone app that was a sex slave market where they bid on them. The wives were jealous because the fighhters were spending lavish amounts on makeup,clothes,lingerie and accessories for their sex slaves.
>inb4 IS executes all 5000 of them.
;_;
>>134576190
Working on it!
>It hasn't updated, so I'm going to take some liberty with it.
>>134576438
You happen to have a new Yemen warmap too pl0x?
Here is Alpha if someone wants to have fun with it
>>134576077
>>134575874
Just play this
http://store.steampowered.com/app/485980/Syrian_Warfare/
First DLC will be the Palmyra fight back
>A new single-player campaign, as you might infer from the title, will be focused on the dramatic events between December 2016 and March 2017, when the ancient city was once again captured by the terrorists, and an imminent threat loomed – the enemy could now quickly advance into territories controlled by the government, with access to large cities. However, thanks to the tenacity of the Syrian army and its allies, including the Russian air forces, the opponent's advance was halted and then turned back.
>The plot will focus around a detachment of the elite Syrian unit Tiger Forces. Despite being caught flat-footed by Daesh's sudden assault, they defended their positions on Palmyra's outskirts to the end, got surrounded and fought their way to the T4 air base, where they had a big role in the defense of the air base and the following retaking of Palmyra.
>The player will have control over new squad types (including, as mentioned, Tiger Forces squads); Lebanese volunteers; and the forces of the 5th Legion, freshly formed with the help of Russia.
>The game's arsenal will be expanded with new weapons: mounted grenade launchers, recoilless guns (both infantry variants and mounted on technicals), high-caliber heavy machineguns. The game's tank park will have new modifications of the T-55 and T-62 tanks in store. The air forces will see the additions of the Russian Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopter, Syrian "Gazelle" light attack/scouting helicopter and remote-controlled drones.
>The terrorists will also have weapons previously unseen in the game: American Humvees captured from the Iraqi military, anti-tank TOW missiles, heavily-armored VBIEDs, quadcopters.
>>134576495
YEMEN SHITMAP: NOGAINZ EDITION
>>134576551
This is my new favourite thing. It ignites a.. fire within my belly. /sg/, am I gay?
>>134573911
it just werks
>>134575440
>This is a complete non sequitur. Just because there is no past example of it, does not mean it cannot exist.
le reversed not real communism maymay
>could
hypothesis again
i """"""""could""""""" be vladimir putin right now
now prove me that i'm not
oh you can't ?
then i'm right
the burden of proofs is on you the same way the burden of proof is on me if i claimed to be putin
>the functions of the EU are far from democratic
once again
you're implying that because it's not direct democracy then it's a dictatorship
it's not
these people were ELECTED
>the people are easier to control
thanks for proving once again my point that dictatorship wont be needed to do so
>Then why have this discussion in the first place? Why hypothesise on future political functions in Western, first world countries, instead of focusing in the here and now?
i'm talking about the past and present
no dictatorship had open border policies
today you don't have a dictatorship and you have open border policies
>And I never said it HAS to be.
you clearly said it would be a dictatorship in your hypothetical future
>you moron.
first the strawman, then the ad hominem, now the name calling
what's next ? hurr durr or autistic screeching ?
>can
see >could
>A totalitarian system is only beneficial so long as its rulers are benevolent and wise.
indeed but it would never have an open border policy like i said for a few times already
>inb4 you start talking again about your hypothetical future
you're running low on arguments man, are you tired ? do you want to continue tomorrow ?
COUNT THE KILOMEMES WITH ME, CREW!
>>134573277
the thing that the usa needs to do in syria is to cut iran off from turkey. the kurds are perfect for this. you can move them about like furniture and they soft and squishy when u sit on them.
the usa also needs to disrupt or at least be able to control the route from iran, via iraq into syria. Syria has almost no oil. it's only good for a pipeline. nonetheless it is the landroute to syria for iran.
controlling the iraqi/syrian border is the intent of the march on deir. they want to have bases all along the river and along the road in.
they failed to achieve their goal at al tanf. getting to deir gets them a major stronghold on the euphrates.and more importantly makes the iran/syria road more difficult for tehran to achieve. they will probably just build a road tho.
For those who want to use it
>>134572435
wudd u?
>>134576679
YCW was last updated on 8 July 2017.
LCW was last updated on 18 July 2017.
SCW was last updated on 22 July 2017.
ICW was last updated on 19 July 2017.
Try the ones that are newer.
>>134576771
nah
>>134576679
Why make Saudi Arabia also green?
>>134572435
nice propaganda
>>134573589
>dong expands
>>134576942
1 KILOMEME
>>134577035
>controlling the iraqi/syrian border is the intent of the march on deir.
Haven't U.S. already lost that war? Reaching to Deir from Hasakah and from there to Iraqi border seems awfully hard even without the incompetence of k*rds and rebels. And what's changed since the defeat at Al-Tanf?
Also I am more interested in the consequences of SDF becoming a direct enemy for SAA.
>>134577443
I just took an old mupdate and posted it. The frontlines are basically the same, any gains are too minor to be relevant
>>134577565
Look at the dots and you will know why. Any further issues you have, take them up with Wikipedia.
>I just draw the frontlines and fill in the blank spaces
>>134577496
wew
>>134577777
>>134577777
takbeer!!!!
>>134576942
Is it really fucking happening?
>mow this music played in my head for some reason when I read SAA was getting closer to Deir-Ezzor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4S6dNvHBYI
>>134577777
Nice digits
>>134576811
>you're implying
Your words, not mine. This is a pure strawman, I never called the EU a dictatorship, only made a joke about it being one in 2045.
>ELECTED
The EU commission is not elected by the people. The Parliament does not have the power to propose new laws, only vote on them.
>The European Parliament may approve or reject a legislative proposal, or propose amendments to it. The Council is not legally obliged to take account of Parliament's opinion but in line with the case-law of the Court of Justice, it must not take a decision without having received it.
>no dictatorship had open border policies
What non-dictatorships had open border policies in the past?
>today you don't have a dictatorship and you have open border policies
Surely you are not suggesting that the lack of dictatorships is at fault for having open border policies?
>you clearly said it would be a dictatorship in your hypothetical future
No I did not.
>first the strawman, then the ad hominem,
Go look up what an ad hominem is.
>see >could
Yes, COULD, because we are discussing hypothetical future forms of political systems and not history. There is no way I could speak with honesty and integrity of these things without resorting to hypotheticals as I am not God and I do not know everything.
>indeed but it would never have an open border policy like i said for a few times already
Just because you say so, does not make it true. Your argumentation to back up your claim has in no way been convincincing. You haven't at all explained why a totalitarian government could not support multiculturalism, aside from >couldclaiming it would not seek to bring in people of other views from abroad, as if that was relevant were the government truly powerful, as is a possibility in the future.
>do you want to continue tomorrow ?
No. You can't argue for shit, you digress, strawman, muddy the waters and in general are unpleasant to attempt to discuss things with. I hope to never see you again.
>>134578064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4C5TBYHWtQ
>>134578064
>>134577585
kek, u mad muhammad?
>>134574888
Deus Vult
>>134577777
>tfw I score 5 7s, and didn't know it until I came back and saw a few people checking my dig,its
SYRIA SHITMAP: GAINZ EDITION
>May or may not be accurate
>>134578064
10/10
fuggen genius
>>134578307
>self checking
>>134576679
I wonder how much % of the population is controlled by houthis and the (((goverment))) respectively
>>134578064
>>134577761
The usa wants to control this box. From Albukamal up river to deir. If kurds are used to sieze it, it will be done, not for kurds to hold, but for americans to build bases on and to control the main border road to iraq.
its about the infrastructure. if they can take it the americans will try to convince everyone it's part of the ancient homeland of the kurds, if they cant manage that they will want bases in al bukamal.
their position in al tanf was to enable this move. getting flanked forced the yanks to come up withanother approach. whether kurds can do it on their own I dont know.
but the usa is amassing forces in the region. 1 or 2000 more were approved a while ago.
>>134576663
I'm honestly upset that there hasn't been a whole lot of pop culture centered around the Syrian Civil War.
The Soviet-Afghan War had tons of books written and movies made about it here in the US. Rambo III, The Beast, The Cardinal of the Kremlin, etc.
But Syria, nothing. You would think that the biggest geopolitical clusterfuck of the 2010s would be a wonderful source of technothriller plots, but nope.
What I would enjoy most, I think, would be a sort of Sum of All Fears-type plot, where ISIS or other jihadists, on the verge of defeat launch false-flag attacks against US and Russian forces in Syria in an attempt to draw the two great powers into a nuclear war and set off al-Qiyamah. A cast of Americans, Russians, and Syrians must uncover the plot as tensions spiral out of control and World War III threatens to break out at any second.
>>134577826
red hair. probably isis init.
wot wot?
>>134578064
best
quick question, how are there rebel forces still so close to damascus?
>>134578420
There are a few versions of the advance, so this is fine for now.
>>134577826
>>134578726
>>134576116
>mfw reclaiming Constantinople,East Thrace and all of Anatolia will be a reality in my lifetime.
Now that media blackout if lifted, mad gainz incoming?
Suk when?
OPINION??
>>134578534
>>134578064
Fucking top kek
>>134578830
What do you mean?
>>134578830
tl;dr
corruption
>>134578726
>>134578919
>OPINION??
Yes, Opinion.
>>134578980
like on the map there is still rebel territory in and around damascus, even if its surrounded
why did Obama do it?
>>134578645
Do you think they U.S. would directly attack to the government forces stationed in Deir?
>>134578064
>>134578664
you need some right wing deep state bible bashing television evangelists in the mix too, secretly funneling donations from the deep south to isis with zionist rabbi's organising the conduit through the golan via orthodox elements in the idf.
who knew? the things that unites all these guys is ragnarok. we need to build a containment field so they can ragnarok in isolation.
>>134578618
Were you able to download my Megumin Mega folder? Did you ever post a Lel folder?
>>134579322
Didn't download or upload stuff
>>134578152
>only made a joke about it being one in 2045.
backing down i see
>The EU commission is not elected by the people. The Parliament does not have the power to propose new laws, only vote on them.
gee man i really wonder who elected this electoral college called EU parliament
>What non-dictatorships had open border policies in the past?
america at the end of the 19th century for instance
>inb4 niggers weren't allowed
implying they needed to pass this law when no african could immigrate
>inb4 shitskins weren't allowed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_immigration_to_the_United_States#1870s.E2.80.931920s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Americans#Ottoman_Turkish_migration
still waiting for your example
>Surely you are not suggesting that the lack of dictatorships is at fault for having open border policies?
no but it would have avoided it
also i highly doubt that a democracy where the media can be controlled by a small group of people wont lead to this scenario
>No I did not.
see first point
>Just because you say so, does not make it true
already proved you wrong with a very clear reason of why it wouldn't happen, go look for it
also still waiting for your counter argument backed by your example of dictatorship with open border
>No. You can't argue for shit, you digress, strawman, muddy the waters and in general are unpleasant to attempt to discuss things with. I hope to never see you again.
so you chose the autistic screeching
so predictable
hope i didn't butthurt you too much man always a pleasure disproving you at every turn
now i'm expecting a hurr durr tier answer
>>134579174
some of them have ceasefire agreements that allow for some movement, others rely on smuggling (east Ghouta and the pocket around the Yarmouk refugee camp to the southwest of Damascus).
>>134579322
>Megumin Mega folder
Shit, I can't believe I missed that.
>>134579174
Siege warfare is incredibly difficult, especially in a city. There is an estimated 30k rebels in the East Ghouta pocket, clearing it has been a challenge. SAA has Republican Guard leading the effort to clean it out, but there is only so much that can be done against an enemy that can't runaway and has lots of traps and sniper points.
>>134579322
it works lad, it just gets stuck at the very end for a bit.
>>134579554
>>134579417
I will post again. 363 files. I already said I wouldn't post it again, but I'll make this exception.
https://mega.nz/#F!ATQzhIpR!5hjpeLxGHNmZvEGOHh2pMQ
What would you say to his thread?
>>134578534
>>134579302
yes.
but i think they can instead achieve the same goals by getting bukamal. they may settle for this.
it's worth bearing in mind that they wanted to control and shutdown the whole syrian/iraqi border ( because isis ). the saa out flanked them, so now their plan is changing.
so they may not attack the saa forces, they may simply cross the river and rush downstream to bukamal. maybe push some units up the road from iraq. They need to do this soon as the PMU is starting to concentrate on the border too. and the pmu wont want to hand it to americans.
whether the americans even get to al bukamal is up to how much they are willing to play their hand.
but they certainly could attack saa forces. I don't think they need to do so however.
>>134578664
I think ISIS are covertly sending everyone to Europe to activate their ultimate plan of triggering the "Grey Zones"(Areas that are heavily Islamified in Europe) into sectarian violence.
If they got contacts in the Balkans. We're in for a world of pain on continental Europe. With literally zero border controls the smuggling of weapons left over from the Yugoslav wars will be a breeze and they are very cheap aswell. Could you imagine Syria tier violence in multiple European cities?
But yeah, its a shame there's been no pop culture.
It really is a clusterfuck and is perfect for novels,games,movies,tv shows and comics.
Right now at closest point the Russians and Americans are 4km apart. That's ground and air forces not proxy groups. Regular forces. Surrounded by SAA and SDF ally forces respectively with the FSA,HTS and IS all around them. A Kurdish officer is calling it World War Three in its infancy in a short documentary about the battle of Raqqa due to all the regional and major powers in close proximity with increasing troop buildups.
It's going to get very hairy, very soon. US commander in Syria said if the Russians wanted to, they could legally force the US out of Syria after ISIS is defeated physically as the US has no legal mandate to be there and is technically an invading force.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4721050/Top-general-says-Russians-force-Syria.html
What's so great about the Euphrates anyways?
>>134578064
godlike
>inb4 SDF/YPG cuts SAA off
>>134580053
It will cuck the (((Coalition))) from making further gains towards DeZ, at least from that side.
>>134579803
39
>>134580115
>kek
constantly cutting each other off.
So anything I should add to the Op? Perhaps this:
>Government forces captured Sabkhawi in southern Raqqa. Media blackout still on.
What will happen when assad finally gets rid of isis?
what will the two sides do with the rebels and kurds?
>>134580350
2
weeks
https://exhentai.org/g/1079686/497265b9c6/
>>134569955
its just bravado. erdogan is a pussy. if turkey starts an operation US soldiers will leave conflict zone faster than british soldiers did during cyprus operation.
>>134579942
let's hope they do, it would save europe and by extension, us
>>134576551
delete this nephew do not desecrate mars like this
>>134578420
noice
r8 m8
>>134580564
ALI ALI ALI
Wasn't there a beautiful fertile marshland somewhere in Iraq?
Or has that all been destroyed?
>>134580564
>kek
>
>Kurds still in Raqqa
>>134580564
>tfw US carves out Kurdistan in Turkey, but it's ok because Israel is gone
Allahu ackbar
no pics
was worth it
Baking! This will be my last bread for a couple of hours.
>>134579434
>gee man i really wonder who elected this electoral college called EU parliament
What does this have to do with anything I said? The Parliament lacks full democratic powers.
>america at the end of the 19th century for instance
Surely you are not being serious. The US did not have open border policies in the 19th century. Do you not understand what constitutes an "open border policy"? Requiring visa and permits to enter is the opposite of having open borders. The US even banned Chinese immigrants from immigrating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_laws_concerning_immigration_and_naturalization_in_the_United_States#19th_century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1891
>no but it would have avoided it
Unless it supported it. A dictatorship has no ideological requirement, save for near-absolute control by the ruling power.
>already proved you wrong with a very clear reason of why it wouldn't happen, go look for it
No you did not. Your arguments do not become "very clear reasons" just because you say so.
>also still waiting for your counter argument backed by your example of dictatorship with open border
This is a non sequitur, faulty logic. History is not the present or the future. The situation and circumstances are not the same, so to assume that the future is the same as the past is utterly foolish.
Also a strawman, as I never talked about open border policies, but multiculturalism and mass-migration. YOU are the one talking about open border policies, digressing vastly from the original argument. ONCE AGAIN.
>so predictable
:^)
What else am I to do when faced with stupidity, inability of simple logical thought and arrogance? Sure, I could just ignore you, but that'd be too smart.
>hope i didn't butthurt you too much man always a pleasure disproving you at every turn
By God you are stupid. Were your parents cousins? Are you one of our French shitskin diaspora?
Have a nice life, I won't reply to you anymore.
>>134578872
Constantinople, Smyrna and Trebizond not istanbul, izmir and trabzon, ok?
>>134580465
War in Europe almost certainly means war here, too, especially if it plays out in a jihadist uprising. Aside from our economy instantly collapsing and the massive riots resulting from it, every right-winger gets to say "ha! proof we were right about Islam!" and use that as an excuse to start really going violent on the government and the left. Add into that foreign powers stoking the fire against the U.S. regime and the ten million secessionist movements just waiting for an excuse to make a move and it's gonna be a clusterfuck that makes Syria look like child's play
>>134580465
That's a good point. Would probably cause the rapid rise of far right militant groups aswell because the setting would be perfect for that mindset.
Not even the delusional leftists can defend their beloved brown skinned "engineers,doctors,women and children!" when daily violence is happening and security services are massively overwhelmed. The UK services are struggling monitoring just 3000 of a list of 30,000 Jihadists and people leaning to that cause in the country with what is believed to be 150,000-190,000 independent individual financiers of various Islamic groups abroad. In France the numbers are much worse.
>>134578872
wouldn't greece have to displace or kill millions if they took back all that territory
I can hardly imagine it would be a good thing becoming majority turkish
>>134581021
so, the west has been sleeping and needs to truly awaken again
>>134579942
>isis bringing sectarian violence to Europe
Can't fucking wait. Maybe then that will make people wake up
>>134579850
I see, thanks. That plan seems far fetched to me tho. I don't know the exact ISIS presence but there seems to be lots of settlements around the river.
So about this pipeline, can you show me a possible route? I mean I predict that it could pass from Turkey and shipped from our shores or it can be extended to Europe from land. And what would be the source of the oil transported from that pipeline?
>>134580770
>no pics
feels bad man
DeZ can wait.
Other fronts are more important.
>>134581377
Like what? McCain's head?
post yfw SAA start an offensive FROM DeZ, cucking kurds into oblivion
>>134581547
>>134581588
två veckor
>>134580870
>What does this have to do with anything I said? The Parliament lacks full democratic powers.
domino effect of your beloved democracy
>Unless it supported it
still trying huh ?
already disproved you
it can't
still waiting for your counter example otherwise it's a reversed "not real communism" fallacy
>No you did not. Your arguments do not become "very clear reasons" just because you say so.
you may deny my facts and scream but they're still here and you didn't manage to disprove them
>I never talked about open border policies
> mass-migration
WDHMBT
>What else am I to do when faced with stupidity, inability of simple logical thought and arrogance? Sure, I could just ignore you, but that'd be too smart.
>By God you are stupid. Were your parents cousins? Are you one of our French shitskin diaspora?
oh man you already did the name calling
now you're using it twice to substitute the hurr durr answer
also still waiting for your counter example that you keep avoiding to mention it as you said in >I won't reply to you anymore
>>134580494
>do not desecrate mars like this
Sorry, is this better?
>>134580708
>>134580708
sadam partially drained it, didn't like the marsh arabs. don't know full story. probably smugglers/shia or something.
anyway last i heard there was some rehab programme going on to restore a part of the swamp. dunno about progress.
>>134581331
If that helps.. I won't share for obvious reasons
>>134581909
whats happening in two weeks?
>>134580053
The river protects the flanks of the SAA so that their run to deir ezZor. Moving along the euphrates also negates the SDF from capturing more territory from ISIS i,e, oil fields
>>134582112
This pic only evokes more questions and curiosity, Korwin-Mikke
>>134578872
No it won't. Those areas will probably never be Greek again.
>>134580976
i still can see you bolandi
:^)
>>134581909
I had a great time. Glad to see there's still some war to be shared on the homefront.
>>134580115
dude wouldnt that be the most fucking awesome move of the war? if the SDF is cut off from deir ezzor , assad will be able to conquer 80% of syria
>>134582281
:^)
>>134582401
:^)
also
isn't ficki ficki forbidden for a future priest ? or does it apply only when you graduate
serious question
>>134581276
qatari gas. qatar produces the most, it is a major gas export hub.
a pipeline would connect qatar with turkey via syria. possibly including/excluding jordan. the pipeline would be to supply europe ( southern ) and later all european markets instead of forcing supplies via sea routes.
there is a meme map somewhere. I'm sure someone will post it.
>>134578592
Not sure. I know in Syria, it's about 70%, but in Yemen, I'd say it's closer to 50-50, counting AQ territories as KSA/Hadi territories.
>>134577565
Wikipedia took the Turkish involvement in Syria and used a darker shade of green at first because of their alliance with the FSA. Then they used red for the Conflict in Najran map, but for the base map Ebin uses, they used dark green as though this were the SCW and they were an ally of the Houthis. It's silly.
>>134582557
Stickin it in children is forbidden too y know, but seriously, I had a looooooooooooooong brake from ficky fun. Till today.
>>134582711
yeah but is it forbidden before graduation?
>>134581276
>>134582620
this pipeline is nothing but a pipedream erased by gas and barrel bombs
>>134582846
No, it's not.
>>134582902
is it frequent amongst priests after graduation ?
we only hear about pedophilia scandals but never regular ficki ficki
>>134582846
I had 11 years /off tho, don't want to get into details, but it only counts when you love someone, so prostitutes don't count.
>>134583017
not very logical
>>134583005
I've seen statistics done, and 1/20 customers of bordellos here is a priest. Still better than snatchin altar boyz for realz
>>134583123
indeed
>>134582857
>tfw I found no good pic in my folder
>tfw I have to resort to norm memes to convoy what's on my mind
>>134583378
because competition
>>134573522
merhaba dragi brat