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HAPPENING The new russian story just backfired

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The new russian story involving DT jr. just went in a completely different direction. Additionaly to this info, WH anon recently assured us, that "they have taken the bait" and "On the 27th of July, everything will backfire".

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New info from WHanon:
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>>133355471
So this could be the end of Daruhmpfz presidential campaign
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You can find the thread of WH anon here:

>>133304254
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bumperino
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WH anon is bullshit. When has he ever been right? It's just going to be another disappointment
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WOW! Insane info! It has 4chan screencaps and a bunch of articles and sentences taken out of context, but it has RED markers and a bunch of archive.is links!!
THIS.
IS.
IT!

WE GOT THEM, 'PEDES! xD
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>>133355604
No it means that the day of the rope for the corrupt establishment is coming.
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>>133355763
Get fucked moron
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>>133355763
Yes multiple times. Just recently he rightly told us the date and time of the Loretta Lynch investigation
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None of this is going to go anywhere.

Don Jr isn't getting locked up
Trump isn't getting impeached
Hillary isn't getting locked up
Loretta Lynch isn't getting locked up
Obama is never taking the stand

Nothing is going to happen with any of this, aside from media freakouts and mock indignation from pundits. We've seen it a million times before.
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Nice summary from anon:
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>>133356021
did you bother to read any of the information or are you just a giant faggot?
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>>133355471
>they have taken the bait
Well, we shoved it into their mouths with what at this point must be millions of bots controlling the narrative as the opposite narrative. They never stood a chance not eating it up.
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>>133355602


Seth Rich is the red herring.

The people who stole the DNC's emails were the Aswan brothers. That's a much safer bet.
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>>133356405
No the dems and corrupt republicunts will fall. Additionally nothing will happen to Trump and Trump Jr.
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>>133355604
campaign?

He was elected you fool. He no longer campaigns.
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>>133355763
>WH anon is bullshit. When has he ever been right? It's just going to be another disappointment

Kinda like when hilldawg lost?
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I saw another thread where an leftist anon was telling the other lefties that sone russian news was going to come out, and not to trust it, as it was disinfo
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>>133355471
Bumperino
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>>133355471
This came from 8/pol/, didn't it?
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>>133355604
>>133356021

Fuck off, shills!
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Can someone give me a quick rundown?
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>>133356408
Didn´t see this. Thanks.
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>>133356970
This is apparently all a plot to bait Obama/deep state/media rather than Junior simply being a Jersey Shore idiot.
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Faggot Cain is in on this too. As always...
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Bump again. DONT LET THIS SLIDE
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>>133356654
but seriously, we can't let him get the nuclear codes
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Blumpfed
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>>133357158
why are they calling it a scandal, when it's clearly a matter?
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Fellow Kek Warriors, hear my Call! We can't let them get away with it! Bump this!
Look at the red markers, they mean business. Don't read full articles with context and formulate your own opinion, read the squared TO SUM IT ALL UP and go with that. Remember, this is all Obama and Clinton's fault. Donald Jr might have met with someone that represented the Russian government, but we have to look beyond that!

LET'S MAKE KEK GREAT AGAIN!
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>>133356654
He is already campaigning for 2020. The day he got sworn in he officially declared himself a candidate for 2020. AFAIK he did this because of some rules with NGO's and Superpacs.
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Why do you retarded cunts even believe that WH anon isn't a LARPer or a psyop?
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>>133357463
Just shut up already. The screencaps are informative and correct.
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>>133357528
Wrong. They're fake news.
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OP here. Is there anything you guys want additionally?
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OPSEC, Kek Division 8, Meme warrior veteran GENERAL reporting in! xD
This is informative and correct, as hinted by the RED markers and archive.is links. Also the "this is oddly interested" in RED really fired up my Meme Neurons!

Fellow 'Kekkers' let's get to the bottom of this!
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>>133357665
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>>133357770
Stfu already
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>>133355604
>>133355763
>>133356405
>>133357463
>>133357497

Wtf so many shills in here already...
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>>133357158
Can't tell if he is helping or hurting the never Trump cause.

They all seem so inept
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>>133356424
Nnnno Chchchchchchelsea ttttotally got 500,000 likes on her post rebuting Drumpf, theres nnnno bbots.

Snopes even sssaid Chelsea totally gggot those without bbbbots.
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>>133357158
Old fuck look so happy, like pudding is coming.
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How does Barron play into this?
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>>133355602
Why does /pol/ believe in larpers all the time
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>>133358006
but... the digits you leaf sucker. Cant deny the kek
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Look at the new threads already. (((They))) are scared shitless.
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high energy af right now lads
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Thx for keeping this alive guys...
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>>133357158
Why isn't this cunt hung for sedition?
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>>133358396
Np. Good thread btw.
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>>133358464
Ty Hans. Appreciate it.
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Why is nobody asking how a visa-denied Democrat operative from Russia was permitted to enter the country? Oh right, someone in the Obama administration PERMITTED HER TO COME IN. So a woman who shouldn't be allowed into the country, was allowed into the country, for the sole purpose of meeting Don Jr. and trying to give him bogus information, which he refused. Then she ends up hanging out with Obama's ambassador to Russia in a congressional hearing. How the fuck does she know Obama's Russian ambassador? How did she have that kind of clout? Because she's a plant and always was. Her meeting Don Jr. was part of an ongoing narrative being built against the Trump campaign during the election year.

The smoking gun?

She hates Trump. Here's her archived Facebook page:
http://archive.is/mdSre

This was 100% entrapment from the get-go. To make it even worse, the Obama administration actually used it as casus belli to wiretap Trump tower and spy on his campaign. We're talking high-crimes here. Obama actually abused the powers of government in a politicized way to help the Democrats.
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Can someone paraphrase that for me so i may use it elsewhere for arguing porposes, i cant use the whole pic cause it gets super blurry when i save it.
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>>133355471
hahahah bump, i knew this was it, a manufactured conjob, poorly done I might add

Have the Jews abandon the democrats?
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>>133358601
>Can someone paraphrase that for me
TIMEWASTING STRATEGY.EXE
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>>133358601
read the comment before yours

>>133358578 this
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BUMP.

LOOK AT THIS CHICK. WHAT A BABE.

>NOW BUMP THE FUCKING THREAD
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>>133358980
>that jawline

you are gay dude, you like men
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>>133358980
OP Bump
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>>133359088
POST YOUR HIGHTEST BABES THEN LET'S SEE THOSE FATCHICKS
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What do you guys think will happen on July 27?
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>>133359088
>>133359222

>he checks my du.bs, raises to tri.ps

oh shit
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>>133359461
arrests

DEMS DUNNZO: DON DEPLOYS DEMOCRAT DETAINMENT DETAIL.
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>>133358578
The sad part about all of this. It no longer matters what is real and what isnt. We now just need, and I mean NEED, to keep the republicans in power to keep the democrats from overthrowing the government. What a fucked up situation. I honestly think we are on the verge of civil war.
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>>133355471
MONSTER HUGE!!!!!!!!
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They are sliding this hardcore. BUUUMP
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Zerohedge reports some interesting specifics about the backgrounds of the meeting with Veselnitzkaya, haven't seen these infos get postet here before:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/how-hermitage-capital-ziff-brothers-and-clinton-global-initiative-prompted-trump-jr-
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>Page 5
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>>133358257
Genuine mental illness.
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>>133356405
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>>133359787
Hans I think you have Internet Explorer. This was on page 5, 3 minutes ago...
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>>133359620
hahahah I think a piece of metal that can handle a space launch, can handle Pence, although, the high voltage on his hands might alter the grain structure of the metal.
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>>133359658
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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>>133359732

The Zerohedge story is based upon this bloomberg report:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-12/russian-at-trump-tower-is-said-to-have-gathered-details-on-ziffs
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>>133359818
>>133358257
>anonymous sources

hahah fuck you MSM shills, we have anonymous sources too
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>>133359888
No just endless captchas. Sorry
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>>133355471
Holy shit, if true this is incredible.
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>>133355471
holy fuck.

Libtards BTFO. Why are they so bad at this, if it wasn't that they owned 95% of all media, they would have absolutely no power.
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>>133359967
>we have anonymous sources too

ANONYMUS SOURCE HERE, CAN CONFIRM.
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You know how I'll know it's ACTUALLY happening, if and when it finally does?

Hillary, Obama, and their ilk fucking BAIL out of the country. I can't imagine they wouldn't know if the hammer was about to drop.
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>>133360055
>0055
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Give me a rundown.
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>>133357158

pretty sure McCain says that every week

he's also extremely Deep State criminal traitor. How anyone can meet with McCain and not spit in his face is beyond me--aside for the fact it would probably enrage the evil old jew to such a degree he'd send a hitman after you for the insult.
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>mfw I realized one of the most powerful poltical forces on the planet is based around anime and cat pictures
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>>133359967
Lul, Jr. isn't anonymous and the irony is if he would have just kept quiet the NYT reporter would have had to use anonymous sources and nobody would have believed him.
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Bumperino frappacino
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>>133360374
i concur, it is as you say: a bump
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>>133357158
Check Mcains Twitter. April 2015.
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>>133360304
i has not taking about that you tard, cant you follow your own comments?

since you said we "believe larpers", I said its the same as all of this "anonymous sources" used by the MSM in general, not in this case

in this case trump jr released everything because there is nothing, the only people who are in danger and the democrats for setting this up, and its fucking obvious btw,,,,

you guys suck are your jobs, total failures
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>>133360595
was*
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Fuggin bump. Lock em up
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Bump
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>>133355604
This.

Listen, hugbox redditors. Not everyone who disagrees with you is deep into psyops or a shill. Some people just disagree. For instance, me.

Rural white voter here. Voting for Trump was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. Probably the worst president we've had in the last 250 years. We must impeach him now and lock up his most fervent supporters. The travel ban is racist and the white house is literally full of islamophobic texts and art. Hate can only be defeated by destroying it from the top down.

On top of his blatant racism, now he is literally destroying the planet earth and ruining young and promising female entertainers' lives. What about our children? Do the right thing, fellow rural white voters. Call your senator or congressman and set things right.
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>>133360595
>he only people who are in danger are* the democrats for setting this up
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TIme to fight back on this story!
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monitoring this thread for more redpills
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>>133360665
hahaha nice bait
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>>133360665
Fuck off, shill
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>>133360653
HEAVYWEIGHT
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FYI the man pictured with McCain is an anti Putin russian lawyer who represented pussy riot. This bitch is ANTI PUTIN, not pro. She was not helping the russian government in any way. Nor Trump.

SHE WAS HURTING THEM BOTH
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>Shills and corrupt child fuckers rn
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Adds up with her testimony that literally nothing happened at the meeting.

Of course this was another failed deep state fishing procedure

The only surprising thing is how faggots still freak out over the same boring shit
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>>133360880
its obvious she was a plant, a mole, a democrats operative designed to implant the narrative, like OP's pic described

I didnt needed to see this thread to know that, I knew it since the "scandal" broke.
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>>133355471
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

>52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510

>(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

>(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Now lets look at Trump Jr's email chain:

>Goldstone: The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras (Agalarov, real estate magnate) this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and be very useful to your father.

>Trump Jr: If it's what you say I love it

>Goldstone: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday

>Trump Jr: Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law (Jared Kushner) and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

Oppo research is a service that candidates pay for and therefore unquestionably a thing of value. Trump Jr, Manafort and Kushner were clearly aware the lawyer was a foreign national. Agreeing to meet this person to obtain opposition research useful to the Trump campaign is both solicitation and acceptance of a thing of value from a foreign national as explicitly prohibited by this act. Note solicitation and acceptance do not imply receipt. This is open and shut, and since Manafort and Kushner where forwarded the whole chain prior to the meeting, they're just as guilty.
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BUMP.

THE 'TILIANS ARE FUCKED.
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it was only a matter of time until they drowned in their own hubris
will this be the coup-de-grace for the deep state or will 1776 have to rise again?
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>>133361189
are you trying to be retarded on purpose?
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>>133361270
IT ALL COMES CRUMBLING DOWN
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Giving the truth a bump.
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>>133356893

DELET THIS
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>>133361373
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
>(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to
believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, [...] or

>(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

>the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation
A foreign government attempting to interfere in a U.S. for the head of the government and military obviously clears this hurdle on both sides.

>Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain
AGREES or ATEEMPTS to obtain

What information you say?
>The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his [Agalarov] father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump

>Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney

Trump Jr. just tweeted out proof that he, Manafort and Kushner committed espionage.
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>>133355604
Obvious bait. Gtfo
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>>133358369
don't post spandau man pls
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>>133355471
This sounds nothing like WH annon. WH annon read as if it were words directly from trump his self. I cannot read this post in trumps voice without it sounding weird as fuck.
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>>133361755
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>>133361620
the old "wall of text proves me right"

Its all retarded, I just took the trouble to read all and besides the fact you are cutting a bunch of stuff out, for some reason??, its just retarded, I wont be troubled by this shilling
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>>133359888
Just noticed that you got wasted digits. Checked.
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>>133361620
>injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation
>claiming that the election of one individual or the non election of another is injury or advantageous to another country

inadmissible even in some kangaroo court like the Hague
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ok see ya later shills, this thing is already in motion, I think it wont pass tomorrow before this really out there

Ill be back to mine the salt
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>>133362328
>A foreign government influencing an election to determine the head of the entire goddamn U.S. military isn't a matter of national defense, or injurious to the U.S., or advantageous to that foreign government

LMAO
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>>133355602
This is anon5 larping like always. What a niggerfaggot. Use google, connect the dots, it isn't the Jew's goyium.
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>>133361620

>crown prosecutor of russia

What did he mean by this?
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>>133358154
Same as the campaign, make your enemy underestimate you.
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>>133362475
>influencing an election
>with twitter bots and memes
that is even if you could prove such a nebulous claim, cry harder about your smoke and mirrors spiel
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Haha this thread is so active, but still on page 3. Really shows how hard they try to slide this. Don´t give up guys!
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>>133361620
>believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation
Not applicable. Shillary wasn't representing as an entity of the United States while personally campaigning for her bid at the presidency.
>>The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his [Agalarov] father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump
You're skipping a ton of details. Deliberately. The lawyer that Don Jr met with was not an official working for the Kremlin or a Kremlin official. Her social media shows that she was anti putin and anti trump.
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>>133362572
>anon5

HE WAS SUBJECTED TO JTRIG ATTACK. LOVE OR HATE, HE BIGLY HE DRIVES THE SIGNAL THROUGH THE NOISE.
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>>133362648
Except the email chain explicitly says Trump Jr, Kushner and Manafort were told the info they were meeting to get was from the Russian government against Hillary, idiot.
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>>133361373
Yes. This LARPing Leaf Lawya keeps posting federal statutes whose verbiage make patent they don't apply to this incident. Shill-riffic.
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>>133362701

Bump with media truths and pics of them lying
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Clever tactic by the shills starting this thread. Diverting from the serious shit and back to FBIAnon/WHAnon LARPing. No mention of April Lorenzen.
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>>133361620
Again, you are fucking retarded, Leaf.
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>>133362815
>Hillary wasn't Secretary of State at the time
>A foreign government attempting to influence the election to determine who becomes head of the U.S. military isn't an injry to the US, the benefit of that foreign nation, or a matter of national defense
LMAO
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>>133356021
Go back to (((reddit))), fagot.
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>>133361620
See this you fallacious faggot?
>>133363009
It wasn't the Kremlin you stupid faggot
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>>133362900

And how is that illegal?
"We have proof clinton has committed treason and would like to share it, are you interested?"

"Id love to!"

No fucking shit DTJ would be interested, are you literally autistic? Info is free and so is speach in USA.
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>>133360293

Adam Weishaupt spinning in his grave right now
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>>133358756

Exactly. Look how this thread was linked to in the other thread that contains actual meat, yet contains no mention of April Lorenzen whatsoever. Back to WHAnon/FBIAnon garbage.

I'm the one who provided that image in the other thread, by the way. I used to think the anon who posted it was doing a sloppy troll job, but the literally nothing has been "diverted" as much on 4/pol/ as anything related to April Lorenzen.
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>>133363105
The emails prove Trump Jr, Kushner and Manafort believed she was an agent of the Russian government and the info came from the Russian government, idiot.

>>(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

> knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it,

Whoops! They're fucked.
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>>133362900
except that isn't collusion because he was acting as a private citizen at the time. In addition the similarly leaked piss dossier lead to no punishment or repercussions to anyone involved in its dissemination, further proving nothing burger status

7 months of literally nothing must be getting really tiring for you at this point
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>>133363134
Clearly if you try to expose treason then that is also treason

Gary Johnson is the legitimate president, legalize weed now!
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>>133363134
See >>133361620
for how its illegal.
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>>133361189
>>133361620
this copypasta is in every MSM faceberg comment section
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>>133363311

This information just muddies the water for leftists. Great and all, but I'm still yearning for the day of the rope when we hang them all.
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>>133363289
See >>133363269
They are guilty by the act because they believed or had reason to believe she was an agent of a foreign government and the info was from that foreign government.

Whether she actually was is not relevant for the statute.
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>>133363269
The email says that the Russian government was trying to help the Trump campaign, but the email never suggests the information was obtained by Russia illegally. What the email Don Jr read said was that the lawyer might have information about the DNC getting illegal financing. The Russian hacking wasn't even a news story at the time the email was sent either. All the news articles on this story claim that somehow Donald Trump Jr would assume that the information the Russian lawyer was going to deliever was emails hacked by Russia, when there's nothing to suggest that even remotely in the emails.

The only thing that's close to over is the credibility of the thousands of news journalists that spent months trying to come up with a case for treason and all they could come up with was this.
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>>133355602
>Written by a moron who doesn't understand English.
>thinking it's real
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>>133361373
I had a faggot friend that was posting this stupid shit. Then i posted lawyers saying it was a ridiculously stupid stretch.

> Don't get mad at my opinion bro
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Last bump from me. I´m tired. Keep this alive!
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>>133363397
obama leaf
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>>133360665
lol, billboarding your identity isnt an argument here, faggot.

DURRRR, Im a rural white voter! Plz listen guys, im one uf uuuu

didnt read beyond that because I didnt have to
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>>133363269
>The emails prove Trump Jr, Kushner and Manafort believed she was an agent of the Russian government and the info came from the Russian government, idiot.
and how does accepting information from a foreign government regarding another politicians criminal dealings with their country equate to collusion?
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>>133363397
>damaging information on Hillary Clinton and her campaign
>defense information
again, not applicable to the circumstances
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>>133361620
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>>133358167
that cat is almost as fat as that fem beast
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>>133357340
Good times.
I feel sleepy now.
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>>133363480
It doesn't matter if it was obtained illegally by the Russians, accepting it is knowingly aiding and abetting a foreign power in attempting to influence an election to determine the head of the U.S. military
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>>133363269
>national defense
wat?
lol you've got nothing
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>>133363269

Except nothing of "national defense" was discussed, let alone offered. They offered proof clinton was committing treason, DTJ met with her and it turned out she didnt have that info and talked about adoptions or some gay shit instead.

Tell me, where does national defense fall into this? DTJ broke the law by seeking info damaging to national defense when that info was supposed to be proof clinton was damaging national defense by committing treason? Is this seriously what you are suggesting? Do you have autism? What sort of olympic mental gymnastics are you performing right now to have this make any fucking sense in your mind?
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>>133363694
No, only if it threatens national defense. Info on Hillary's crimes does not. You have nothing.
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>>133363531
I ve learned to just kick back, and wait for reality, then we can come back and mine all the salt

its funny how people who know nothing of law, all of the sudden act like they are experts, leftards are just to full of themselves
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>>133363627
>>133363695
>A foreign government interfering in an election to determine the literal head of the American armed forces is not a matter of national defense
LMAO
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>>133361189
TV and other media spots that say good things about one's own person or campaign or bad about the opponents are clearly services that candidates pay for.

Thus, every foreign celebrity or journalist who said something nice about Hillary or bad about Trump in a public medium made an illegal foreign contribution to her campaign.

Q.E.D.

And/or just go fuck yourself, twat.

§ 100.74 Uncompensated services by volunteers.

"The value of services provided without compensation by any individual who volunteers on behalf of a candidate or political committee is not a contribution."

Which means the language in Section 30121 of Title 52 does not apply to anyone volunteering to help a campaign.
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>>133355471

Every time these leftist fuckbois try to bring down the God Emporer it backfires in their face. When will they learn that Moloch doesn't stand a chance against YHWH and Kek the god of chaos.

Suck on a big fat hairy cock George Soros.
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>>133363769
>A foreign government interfering
How is delivering information on a candidate's crime "interfering in an election"? We have a treaty with Russia to even help investigate such matters. Your bitch getting caught doing something illegal is not "interference" fucktard lol
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>>133363769
Only to a leftist is the truth equal to "interference".
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>>133363769
>handling of defense information
A general election does not fall under this

Don't forget to sage this gay thread
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>>133355602
WHAT ACCUSATIONS
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>>133364022
>Don't forget to sage this gay thread
What's that dumb leaf have to do with this informative thread?
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>>133355471

Another harebrained conspiracy.

When it looked like Trump was gonna lose, it was pizzagate.

When Trump Jr admits to seeking to collude with Russia, the very offer of collusion was an elaborate ruse.
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>>133363269
>national defense
How the fuck does that have anything to do with national defense? How does dirt on Hillary Clinton who was campaigning not as a representative of the United States, or backed by it at the time, but as her own person, as legally required when running for the office of presidency, constitute any of the bullshit that you are claiming? Jr was not in any respect a member or official of the White House or a representative of the White House at that time and was acting personally himself, without giving prior knowledge to Trump, and as it turns out the one who set it up and told him he should do it is Kushner.
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>>133364187
NICE SLINGSHOT MANEUVER. IT WILL BACKFIRE.

JULY 27. YOU'RE FUCCIN DUNNZO
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Can someone give me a basic gestalt on Fusion GPS?
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>>133364201
Leftists think that Hillary losing the election hurts national defense. Yup.. that delusional. They think their feelings being hurt is a legal issue.
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>>133363920
Precisely. If there were government documents that showed illegal activity by Clinton the campaign would have every right to use those documents to makes its case.

It doesn't matter if they "came from the Russian Government. They are government documents. By definition they must come from the government.

It doesn't matter if the Russian government wanted to help Trump win over Hillary. They are allowed to want whatever they want.

A government document is not a thing of value. It is information and the ability to receive it and transmit it for political purposes is the most highly protected form of 1st amendment free speech.

All of that is beside the point though because there were no documents, the lawyer did not represent the Russian government, and the campaign never accepted anything at all from them.

Just more delusional insanity pushed on libtards by really truly treasonous and seditious operatives working to overthrow a democratically elected President.
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>>133364201
>A foreign government interfering in an election to determine the literal head of the American armed forces is not a matter of national defense
LMAO
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Can I get a quick rundown of all of this?
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>>133357158

Yeah, and that shoe is going to fall right in top of his senile old head and Hillary's and Obama's too. They and their lackeys set up all this shit. Vile and treasonous.
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>>133355471
Video that goes into Kushners involvement on this.
https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=jlo8yhwzC48

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=jlo8yhwzC48

Links from old thread:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/10/senate-panel-to-hear-testimony-from-businessman-targeted-by-trump-dossier-firm/

Veselnitskaya is connected to Fusion GPS, and other sketchy characters that have been accused of fraud and spying. She helped found a "human rights" group that is primarily concerned with fighting the Magnitsky Act. She seems to have spearheaded a lot of the lobbying against the Act.

The Act is named for a lawyer who discovered a multi-million dollar fraud scheme and died under suspicious circumstances.

http://archive.is/p8YNZ

http://archive.is/BjwRg

http://archive.is/TLDB0

http://archive.is/69ioA

The Magnitsky Act is mentioned once in the Podesta emails, because Clinton's team killed a story about Hillary's opposition to the Act in relation to a speech Bill gave in Russia.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/303

The company that paid Bill for the speech was involved in the fraud Magnitsky was investigating before he died. They were also involved in he Uranium One deal.

http://archive.is/8sMkn

http://archive.is/P4GJQ

http://archive.is/MhdlX

http://archive.is/20CdY
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>>133355471
>The new russian story involving DT jr. just went in a completely different direction.
Nah. Nobody is reporting or consuming anything other than this veing "proof" that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. Nobody by and large knows about this fringe information you posted.

This hasn't "backfired". This is hurting Trump badly. Period.
He won't be impeached, but his legacy is being written right now. He will be remembered as a president defined by possible negotiations with the Russians the same way Nixon is only known for watergate.

OP, you can claim otherwise for as much as you like, but this news is writing Trump's legacy in a negative light for the overwhelming majority of Americans.
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>>133364395
How is it illegal for to accept information from a foreign government that would interfere in our election. The truth can certainly interfere. But how is the truth, interfering, illegal?
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>>133364395
Would you say that Obama giving anti-brexit speeches in the UK would be interference in their election? It is. But so what? You have absolutely no case to stand on but your feelings. If Russia wants to provide THE TRUTH, and that TRUTH interferes in our election, then so what? Where is the law that was broken?
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>>133362701
bumping the shit outa this!!!!
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>>133364806
Because this statute makes it illegal

>>(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or
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>>133364395
>when he literally doesn't have a response
>misrepresentation lmao
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>>133364765
>This hasn't "backfired". This is hurting Trump badly
Keep thinking that "hope" is a political strategy. It has been working great for the past 8 years.
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>>133364549
1. Donald was to be one of the "pied piper" candidates (per DNC strategy memo, April 7, 2015 - see Wikileaks).

2. Should the Donald do well, dirt would be required on the Donald - real or fabricated.

3. Fusion GPS eventually hired by [ McCain? DNC? HRC? all three? ] to produce said dirt.

4. Fusion GPS needed both a story and sufficient "evidence" to give the story plausibility. MI6 Steele provides story.

5. Evidence took two forms:

a. Electronic. "Tea Leaves" (cybersecurity researcher April Lorenzen) creates forged DNS logs from a Trump server repeatedly contacting Alfa Bank in Russia (see weaponized autism) and gives the info to alphabet agencies (June 2016) and later Slate (October 2016). The June 2016 disclosure to alphabet agencies helps prompt a FISA warrant.

b. Human. At the same time the Trump server was supposedly contacting Alfa Bank, Goldstone sets up the meeting with Natalia V, making sure to use key words and tricky phrases that implicate Russian gov't involvement. Timing being concurrent with the forged DNS server logs is not a coincidence. Fusion used pre-existing relationship with Natalia (she's Fusion GPS client and Russian oligarch Katsyv's defense lawyer in a massive racketeering case, along with having many other connections to Fusion) to use her as a diversion. In combination with the electronic data above, FISA warrant issued.

6. After FISA warrant, dossier given to FBI. Plausibility has been established. It doesn't matter at this point that the dossier was amateurish, as it provided a distraction for the FBI to vet it.

7. Trump expected to lose, so nothing much was done with this prior to the election, other than to establish a Trump-loves-Putin story about unhealthy dictator worship. No need to risk wider exposure.

8. Unthinkable happens. Trump wins.

9. Time to arm the landmines that were previously set, but never used. Time to get that email to NYT.

Viola. Russian influence narrative.
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>>133364806
It's literally treasonous. Like, by the definition.
It doesn't matter if she tells you that she she has proof of pizzagate, you immodiately report that to the FBI. It's international.
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>>133364973
>national defense
Sorry but providing the truth about a committed crime is not national defense. Again, do you consider Obama's anti-brexit speeches in the UK to be interference in their election? It clearly is. Should he be arrested?

You have nothing to stand on here.
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>>133364395
Except there was no interference you goalpost moving faggot. Jr showed up, the cunt wanted to talk about abortions or some shit, Jr was like wtf and left. It was a ploy to try and entrap the Trumps. You got nothing.
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>>133355471
Better get out the fresh tinfoil, the crazy's getting thick around here.
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>>133363875
oy vey
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TIme to spread this all over the net!
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>>133365088
>you immodiately report that to the FBI.
And what evidence do you have that Don Jr. wouldn't have immediately reported any information that was relayed to him about a crime?

>inb4 no answer or deflection
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>>133355602
>falling for this crap
top kek, do you people not have ounce of critical thinking capabilities?
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>>133365102
>A foreign government interfering in an election to determine the literal head of the American armed forces is not a matter of national defense
Whether it was true has no meaning under this law, since it would help the Russians interfere in the election outcome and since Trump Jr, Manafort and Kushner did not immediately go to the authorities when they were told about it.
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>>133365255
So you're saying Obama should be arrested for going to the UK and giving speeches on how they should reject Brexit?
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BUMP FOR MISS APRIL LORENZEN.
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Search for "April Lorenzen" on Twitter advanced search. Nobody is asking The Intercept or Slate to confirm her identity.

BUT GET THIS:

"Six days until #CyberShowcase! Hear from funded performer April Lorenzen why she loves the R&D Showcase & #Tech Workshop. #DHSCyber"

Remember, the site weaponizedautism.wordpress.com goes back to March/April. There were no mentions of April Lorenzen on Twitter at all, aside from people trying to get @ljean to confirm. Now all of a sudden, only a week ago, a faction of DHS tweets out a link trying to boost her cred.

WAKE THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE. Stop getting distracted by FBIAnon/WHAnon/George Webb garbage. GET. ON. TWATTER. AND. CONFIRM. HER. IDENTITY.
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>>133365255
>did not immediately go to the authorities when they were told about it.
Cite the law that says one is compelled to go to the FBI when a publicist tells them hearsay about someone having "information" about a presidential candidate. Go ahead.
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>>133364187
Makes perfect sense to me.

There was no Russian information about Hillary Clinton illegal dealings with Russia. It didn't exist, Donald Jr was lied to to be in a boring meeting
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>>133364973
>Because this statute makes it illegal
Thanks for that in depth legal analysis.

You are quoting a law entitle "Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information" which has a very specific list of things that it applies to and the criminal fund raising activities of the Clintons is not one of them.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
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>>133355471
Glad my infograph has proved useful.
By the way for those that are new to the thread, it has a rundown at the bottom with sources and what not.
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>>133365340
>U.S. campaign finance laws apply to Britain
LOL
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>>133365057
>Russian Influence Narrative
That's not a "narrative".
Whether or not you think what Don Jr. did counts as "collusion" is debatable, but the Russians did in fact meddle with the American election. We know this for a fact. They ran a disinformation campaign, hacked the DNC (and the RNC), and targeted thousands of individual precincts with cyber attacks to cause electronic voting systems to malfunction forcing paper ballots to be handed out and some people to show up as "not registered". This happened. The collusion thing might in fact be fake news, but the Russians did interfer. That's not an opinion. Both the CIA and FBI identify it as a fact as well as almost the entirity of the government.
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>>133364973
>for the purpose aforesaid,
do you know what that part means
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>>133365102

They have nothing, but they are trying to sway the normies.

This is a fight for the uninformed voters.
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>>133365106
you were at the meeting anon?
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>>133365237
Because he's just releasing his contact emails for the first time.
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>>133365057
>Unthinkable happens. Trump wins.
Yep, BTFO by the american people. Not because Trump is great but just to fuck with these assholes by the only means we have left.
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>>133365510
So you're saying it's ok for the US to interfere in other elections, but not ok for someone else to do the same to us. Sounds reasonable and principled.
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>>133365522
DUDE I RAN A DISNFORMTON CAMPAIGN TOO GO SUCXC A DIC
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>>133365420
That would be the espionage act itself. When someone offers to help you violate a law, you have to report that to the police rather than gleefully agreeing to meet them for that illegal purpose to be able to claim you didn't solicit or accept or agree to receive the illegal shit.
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>>133365255
Trump Jr had no knowledge of the lawyers connections to the Kremlin. Watch the video I posted the link to faggot. It explains it. The only person that had knowledge of her connections was Kushner So the only one that can potentially go down for this is Kushner. He could be facing 5 years. For some Trump supporters that might be a loss, but for those of us who know about Kushner's real name and his connection to pro Chabad organizations as well as his connection to Cadre, that suits us just fine.
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>>133365641
IT depends what the laws of those other countries say, and its up to those countries to enforce those laws.
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>>133365522
>Both the CIA and FBI identify it as a fact
Well holy shit, who could question it then?
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>>133365603
>Because he's just releasing his contact emails for the first time.
Huh? What's that got to do with information of a crime being reported. No information of a crime was ever delivered by this russian lawyer.
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>>133365048
All I'm saying is that OP is wrong. This story hasn't "gone in another direction". The narrative is still "Don Jr tried to work with Russians to hurt Clinton". Nothing in the OP is being reported or is known by anybody.
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>>133365682
>Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney
>The Russian government attorney
>Russian government attorney
Try again :^)
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Here's the DHS tweet:

https://twitter.com/dhsscitech/status/882736112229376000

"Six days until #CyberShowcase! Hear from funded performer April Lorenzen why she loves the R&D Showcase & #Tech Workshop. #DHSCyber"

Twitter advanced search shows no other "official" mention of her. Then she gets a cred-boosting mention just before the Don Jr shit blows up.

DON'T. LET. THE. SHILLS. DIVERT. YOUR. ATTENTION. FROM. WHAT. MATTERS.

Once The Intercept, Slate, or whatever confirms her identity, her world comes tumbling down.
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>>133365676
>When someone offers to help you violate a law
I think they have meds for your problem. you might want to try them.
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>>133365676
Really? Ok I have information that Justin Truedeu is dirty.

I'm certain canadians have similar laws to us. So go report to your maple syrup investigations department or whatever the fuck you have up there. Waste their time with hearsay and see how they like it.
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>>133360665
let me guess, you're getting sleepy?
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He's literally playing 90 dimensional skydiving four square.
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Prediction: Jeb was the Republican that employed GPS Fusion. There was a reason the Rubio camp had to be brought in and smeared a bit in the initial reporting. The truth left is between the lines of intent in our press.
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What more information can I add to the infograph on OPs file?
Please let me know.!!!!!
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>>133363397
>Random homeless man comes up and says "im from the Argentinian government, and I have information that Obama is an alien"
>Humor him
>sure, I love it!
>Haha! Youve done a treason!


You think that dtj didn't have any background info about this? If this information we're to be real it would be huge, do you think he didn't consult any lawyers about this?
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>"Ted Kennedy got on the phone and asked the Russian ambassador to help with the 1984 elections and contaminate the arms treaty process in order to help defeat Reagan,”

And literally NOTHING happened with actual TREASON.
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>>133358128
They live here. Our dedication to anonymity and free speech means we really can't get rid of them for long. Fuckem anyway.
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>>133365781
Dude, it's over. I'm sorry but your ship has sailed. It is a permanent part of history now. When they write about the election of 2016, they won't write about the uprising of an outsider that overthrew the whole political establishment and gave a voice to the forgotten working class. No, they will write about how the election was stolen by Russian interference and that otherwise she would have won and should have won. That's what's going in history. That's what will be taught about Trump in schools. Nobody is going to remember OP's post. By and large they will only remember that the President's son talked to Russians. Trump's legacy is dead in the water.
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>>133358578
Nice summary which exposes Obama's treason, spread around
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>>133365812
Watch the video Obama leaf faggot.
Kushner fucked up big time.
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>>133355602

>Clinton's

CAN'T USE POSSESSIVE
PRETENDING TO BE WH COUNSEL

The worst thing about it is that there are bar-admitted individuals who can't use possessives.

t. Ghost of the English Language
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>>133365988
Correct. You are legally obligated to report that shit and if agree to the meeting, go, and keep it secret you violated the law.
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KABOOM!!!!!!
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>>133360665
>said no rural white male ever
This is pasta, I replied to it yesterday with above greentext
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Here's the Twitter search

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%22april%20lorenzen%22&src=typd&lang=en

Click the "latest" tab to sort chronologically. What do you notice? Only mentions of her going back months are from people mentioning her in regard to weaponizedautism.wordpress.com.

Then DHS gives her a solo shoutout, mere days before the Don Jr story blows up.

I'm starting to think that "FBIAnon" post may not have been a LARP at all, but rather someone who borrowed that LARPing faggot's identity just to give this board a much-needed wake-up call.
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>>133365795
>The narrative is still "Don Jr tried to work with Russians to hurt Clinton"
How do you think "the narrative" is working out for these people?

That narrative already lost them the election. Turning up the volume to 11 isn't going to make people trust them any more. It just makes people tune out.

This is perfect for Trump because all of the outlandish bullshit claims make people disbelieve everything bad said about him so they ignore anything that might be true.

Since Trump is "not perfect" to put it mildly so all of this works 100% in his favor. It is how he won in the first place and there is no reason to think he will stop winning.
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>>133365732
So if someone in the UK pointed out that Obama broke these laws and should be banned from the UK, you would support such a thing, correct? As you are supporting americans who think a similar law was broken here as well.
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>>133365837
>https://twitter.com/dhsscitech/status/882736112229376000

That tweet has trips.
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>>133356591
lol no
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>"Ted Kennedy got on the phone and asked the Russian ambassador to help with the 1984 elections and contaminate the arms treaty process in order to help defeat Reagan,”


And. Nothing. Happened. With. Real. Treason.
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>>133365981
>>133365981
>>133365981
>>133365981
>>133365981
HELP ME OUT AND LET ME KNOW!
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>>133366136
>Correct. You are legally obligated to report that shit and if agree to the meeting, go, and keep it secret you violated the law.
citation needed
And again, I have information that Justin Trudeau is dirty. Go ahead and report that to your maple syrup authorities or whatever. Waste their time. I'm certain you have similar laws.
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>>133366170
Sure, lock him up, lock Hillary up, lock up everyone who violated these laws. Politicians who do illegal shit should go to prison, I don't care what party they are from.
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>>133360665

Let me guess you copypasta faggot, you can't let him get the launch codes.

>Oh wait
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So how mad will people be once this turns out to accomplish nothing and nothing changes?
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>>133366379
It will not happen. Trump is too much of a cuck.
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>>133366312
The underlying law is the citation idiot. To not violate a law you have not participate in a conspiracy to violate it, obviously, and report it to the authorities. At a BARE MINIMUM they should have refused the information and the meeting.
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>>133361189
>WALL OF PASTA
this really does lend credence to the concept of there being actual paid shills, no one else would keep posting this bullshit that continually gets torn to shreds. At least no one with a shred of intelligence.
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>>133366379
Fantastic. Have you reported to your authorities that I have information on Justin Trudeau that could hurt his public image in the next election? I'm certain you have similar laws.

Why aren't you reporting this? Aren't you now compelled? I'm connected to the US government.
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>>133366162
This probably would have held more traction if they didn't run their credibility through the mud before hand.
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>>133366494
You're not citing the law that compels a person to report to the FBI anytime someone says they have information that could damage the reputation of a political candidate. Just saying you do over and over again doesn't change this fact.
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>>133365933
that actually sounds incredibly fun
>>133362513
this shit is hilarious, no one expects trs of being the jew
anyways
>>133361066
this is real and significant
it says that broad sweeping surveillance has led to the tower card being drawn, presumably and hopefully for the deep state alone but admittedly there's no way they don't inflict as much damage as possible to us whole they're in their death throes, so ultimate it is a card that is drawn quite universally, everything comes tumbling down
>vale
i've always wondered about this word so for the first time i'm looking into it, i know roughly what it is but i want a full understanding of it now due to this usage, so
>middle english/poetic form of valley
an old english valley is filled with tears
for me personally, an old english valley refers to the stock market economic system. stocks themselves are nothing but peaks and valleys and the stock market system originated out of england, and england is the finance capitol of the world. if the old english valley is in tears, that means the economy is in awash in ruin and meltdown. why does this happen? because too much has been exposed and (((their))) game is fully up
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>>133365424

Yeah the Trump campaign has been so goddamn forthcoming so far, whether it's registering meetings with Russians, or denying that there was any contact between campaign officials and Russians during the campaigns, or Trump's WH saying the Comey firing had nothing to do with Russia, or Trump Jr not admitting that this meeting was really about getting dirt on Clinton.

Surely he's telling the truth now.

Anyway you guys want to get into the weeds to skip the big picture: months of denying any collusion turn out to be bullshit. Whether this is actually illegal or not is irrelevant, politically.

Veselnitskaya's connection with Fusion GPS had nothing to do with the 2016 dossier, this is another one of those "This person was here at this time and here at another time and if you follow the money..."

>Fusion GPS has said that it was working for the law firm BakerHostetler, which was representing Prevezon, a Russian holding company based in Cyprus, in its defense against Justice Department allegations that Prevezon laundered money stolen in the fraud Magnitsky uncovered. Veselnitskaya was Prevezon’s lawyer. Fusion GPS started working on the case in 2013 and the case settled in May with no admission of guilt by Prevezon.

>Fusion GPS told me its work on the Prevezon case had nothing to do with the 2016 presidential election and they were not involved in the outreach to the Trump campaign.

>“Fusion GPS learned about this meeting from news reports and had no prior knowledge of it,” the company told me in a statement. “Any claim that Fusion GPS arranged or facilitated this meeting in any way is false.”
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>>133365400
Is this helpful at all?

She joined vimeo 5 years ago.

https://vimeo.com/user8971782
https://vimeo.com/user8971782/about

"Dissect Cyber Inc specializes in: - Global Scale Cyber Security Data - Basic & Advanced Trainings"
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>you guys Jr just went into the meeting and left
>solicitation of services from a hostile foreign power for the purposes of winning a US election is totally legal
>guys just ignore that the emails prove Manafort and Kushner are guilty of perjury at the very least
>guys getting oppo research from russia is totally fine collusion's not illegal lol ignore that we denied this under oath
What's even the point of this spin anymore? Every day fewer people fall for this bullshit and the GOP gets closer and closer to throwing Trump overboard to protect their seats.
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I can't imagine the butt-mad feelings on the left right now when they keep on getting fed these "nothing burgers". I was disappointed when shit like Kim Dot Com's Seth Rich reveal was nothing but we won so its not even a big deal.

These lefties have got to be getting furious.
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>>133358257
because its fun, fagot
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>>133355604
He will never get the nomination, there's no way
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>>133366428
That's the whole point of why the leftist media keep making those misleading headlines that reveal the truth somewhere in the article, but libtards just assume the headline must be true. It's all designed to make them angry and demand blood. The damn fools don't even realize it.
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>>133366722
Yeah it's got her linkedin, too. linkedin.com/in/aprillorenzen
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>>133356021
I'm sure this involves Seth Rich and Pizza somehow. Pedes! Man your retard stations and find those links! Meme in them to existence Pedes! Your God needs you!!
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>>133359787
Nigger, why the fuck aren't you using the catalog?
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Someone bake a new thread pls. OP went to sleep.
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>>133366292
Or Reagan colluding with Iranians to prevent the release of hostages till be beat Carter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

Or Reagan's attempted assassin being the son of Vice President George Bush's biggest campaign contributor. http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1965234-the-hinckley-bush-reagan-connection

Or the CIA selling weapons to Iran in order to finance illegal ops in south america. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

But no, I am pretty sure this is the biggest crime in the history of American politics.
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>>133366789
>Every day fewer people fall for this bullshit
sounds like the media you are talking about since their ratings are tanking across the board.
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>>133366659
>the Trump campaign has been so goddamn forthcoming so far,
They have. This lawyer was never representative of the russian government so no need to report. The mandate isn't to report all interactions with people born in Russia, but instead, official meetings with Russian government officials.

In session's case, he was asked about meetings with russian officials regarding the campaign, which he answered correctly.

You're simply misrepresenting the issues. Provably.
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>>133366659
>Fusion GPS has said
>Fusion GPS told me
>the company told me
Ah shit, that settles it. I was sure of this one too, I guess I was wrong, let's give up goys.
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>>133366609
>run their credibility through the mud before hand
only in your mind faggot. to everyone else the NY Times and CNN are Pravda and we are all cheering while we watch it burn.
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>>133365682
kushner won't go down for it and neither will he let trump go down for any reason
in this way shape or form and he has the power to keep trump afloat and help him weather this storm in the ocean that his enemies are trying to drown him in
as much of a legitimate grievance you have against him he's still /ourguy/, functionally
unless you rather trump be unseated and then literally all fucking hell breaking loose as i start to pull the protocols
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Fuck there is some serious shilling going on in here, what a fucking awesome thread.
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>>133366659

Furthermore, if Veselnitskaya was a double agent of the DNC, why wasn't this meeting mentioned in the Steele dossier? It's more shocking and credible than anything Steele found. It would have given the Clintons exactly what they wanted when they wanted it, as opposed to six months after losing.

As for Veselnitskaya being "pictured with Obama officials" and talking to our ambassador to Russia, she was the biggest lobbyist against the Magnitsky act during the Obama years. She talked to Obama people all the time.

You guys have NOTHING.
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>>133366722

Yeah, that's her.

See weaponizedautism.wordpress.com, which has been mentioning her since March/April. The only tweets containing her name were in reference to that site.

Then, out of nowhere, she gets a tweet shoutout by a faction of DHS days before the Don Jr story blows up:

https://twitter.com/dhsscitech/status/882736112229376000

Every other "happening" on /pol/ should be ignored. THIS is what matters now. Get The Intercept to confirm her identity, and shit will hit the fan, with the Don Jr story imploding.

Or is /pol/ OK with an anti-Trump log forger being paraded around by DHS?
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>>133367337
it'll go till the narrative dies for the 40th time and then they go back to their hiding hole
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>>133365837
Do enough people even know the basics of this to get in memeing and/or trending to get enough people to put pressure on The Intercept/Slate?
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>>133365522
>electronic voting systems to malfunction forcing paper ballots to be handed out
good. russia doing more to ensure the integrity of the presidential election than the american government and their (((soros voting machines)))
and you fucking wonder why we love russia and hate you
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>>133355471
I just... I was reading this.... And just.... I was.... He just......
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>>133367123

>This lawyer was never representative of the russian government so no need to report.

She was represented by Goldstone as "the crown prosecutor of Russia", and described as part of "the Russian government's efforts" to help Trump get elected.

You're the one misrepresenting the issues. You're staring a smoking gun in the face right now.
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>>133358578
>Veselnitskaya is a plant and always was

Was meant to previous thread, but will post here

My point is
1) i don't understand why is she called "Democratic operative" all of the sudden
2) She never was barred from visiting US at least to my knowledge
3) Her knowing McFaul (Obama's ambassador) is not a surprise considering that she is a lobbyist with links to some people on Magnitsky List. Again, these links were reported years before this day. Also McFaul was somewhat popular among people from our govt.
4) Her fb page has zero proofs of whether she likes or hate Trump. Why? Well, i can give you account of top-tier govt official attending anti-Trump marches in US. That's tourism.

It appears to me that discussing Trump office position on Magnitsky Act was in fact a real purpose of her visit. However, she might have been under surveillance during that meeting — can't deny that.
And yeah, Don Jr. certainly did nothing criminal, but involvement of Veselnitskaya coming to him under a pretext of "DNC papers" raises eyebrow for me and finally makes "russian connection" into something.
My opinion is based on russian sources from before the Don Jr. story came out, because i expect a lot of falsehoods and misleading information coming from both sides now.
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>>133367367
>why wasn't this meeting mentioned in the Steele dossier? It's more shocking and credible than anything Steele found.

WHICH STEELE DOSSIER THE TRS PRUDENCE/PISS AND ANIME ONE OR THE ONE ATTRIBUTED TO FUSION AND THEIR STEELE?

THERE ARE TWO DOSSIERS. ONE IS A PRANK ONE WAS PRODUCED BY FUSION. (THEY BOTH HAVE THE NAME CHRISTOPHERE STEELE ATTACHED TO THEM)
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>>133367526
>She was represented by Goldstone as "the crown prosecutor of Russia", and described as part of "the Russian government's efforts" to help Trump get elected.
Right, but after the meeting took place, it was apparent she didn't represent the government in any way; thus there was no need to report it when any kind of investigations re: Russia started.

Follow?
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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-internet-criminals-could-join-new-things-your-smart-lorenzen?trk=mp-reader-card
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If noone bakes, I will. However I can only make the thread in 30 minutes.
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>>133367526
>You're staring a smoking gun in the face right now
Yep, smoking gun of a bad setup attempt.
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>>133367285
>pull the protocols
>I
Who the hell are you? Or more appropriately who the hell are you LARPing as?
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>>133367114
Who the fuck under the age of 40 even watches TV news to begin with
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>>133356021
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April Lorenzen, Dissect Cyber Inc.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/aprillorenzen

An Internet security researcher specializing in the preemptive discovery of miscreant and crimeware resources in the domain name system, April Lorenzen has established Web reputation and anti-malware data collection systems and taught data mining and data interpretation techniques. She developed systems to eliminate millions of false negatives from the mail stream and produced data visualizations of the entire IPv4 space as a 3D bar chart of /16 CIDR blocks mapping data points such as fastflux DNS, non-proxy recursive DNS resolvers, and CBL listed IP address density.

Ms. Lorenzen is also the primary architect of the ZoneCruncher tools known as April's Cool Tools that are often used by law enforcement, Internet security firms, anti-spam and academic researchers. She works with organizations involved in Internet data analysis, including CAIDA at the UC San Diego Super Computing Center Spamhaus, the Internet Software Consortium's Security Information Exchange, REN-ISAC and SURBL. As a frequent speaker at international ISP, law enforcement and security industry conferences, she shares her expertise to help organizations contain malware and spam. Ms. Lorenzen has presented at the Anti-Phishing Working Group, Internet2, Internet Security Operations Task Force, and M3AAWG, and is a recipient of the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance award for "Outstanding Support in the On-Going Battle Against Cybercrime."
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>>133367526
>the crown prosecutor of Russia
Which doesn't exist. So....
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>>133367419
SEND IT TO A NEWS COMPANY OF YOUR CHOICE YOU FUCKING MONG DO I HAVE TO COME OVER THERE AND FUCK YOUR WIFE FOR YOU TOO?
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New thread
>New thread
New thread
>New thread

Bake now!
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>>133367786
https://zetalytics.com/
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>>133361189
>thing of value
value is subjective. it could be argued that since no money was paid no value was had. moreover, if Clinton arranged this then she is clearly guilty of receiving value from a foreign government.
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>>133367526
>"the crown prosecutor of Russia"
lol what in the fuck does that even mean?
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>>133355471
>Judging by her Facebook photos, she
>seemingly anti-Putin

This entire article is bullshit
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>>133367877
>>133367786
https://vimeo.com/user8971782
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>>133367789
>>the crown prosecutor of Russia
>Which doesn't exist. So....
details, who cares about details
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>>133356893
Dude wtf
>delet
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>>133366789

>Every day fewer people fall for this bullshit
You are absolutely right senpai

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339146-poll-voters-grow-weary-of-russia-probes

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/26/harvard-poll-majority-believe-deep-state-leaking-to-unseat-trump/
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>>133366092

Kek

Gtfo shill
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>>133367789
>>133367892

Yeah Goldstone made a typo. She was represented as an agent of the government.

>>133367617

She's been lobbying on behalf of the Russian government for years and has been involved in high profile legal cases for Russian oligarchs close to Putin.

Also, she represented herself via Goldstone as being part of the government.

Wriggle all you want there is no escaping this one.
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>>133367447

Well, all it takes is a bunch of channers to tweet at Sam Biddle and the others at The Intercept who were able to confirm her credentials but expressed skepticism about her findings. They know who she is and can confirm whether that part of weaponizedautism.wordpress.com is legit. If it is, it immediately adds credence to the rest of the site, because only a genuine insider or someone with serious talent could have uncovered that publicly unknown detail.

I've set up a Twitter account myself, but they want me to (((phone verify))) the fucking thing before I can do anything.
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>>133360665
Lifelong White American conservative here. I've voted Republican my whole life starting with Barry Goldwater in '72 and am now thinking of making the switch for The Hildawg. She's more conservative than he could ever be. The first few months of Trump's campaign were all fun and games, but seriously, we can't let this guy get hold of the nucular codes.
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>>133367954
April Lorenzen
Chief Data Scientist
Dissect Cyber Inc.

"Arm Chair Global Scale Hostname Research with April's Cool Tools."

An Internet security researcher specializing in the preemptive discovery of miscreant and crimeware resources in the domain name system, April Lorenzen has established web reputation and anti-malware data collection systems and taught data mining and data interpretation techniques. She developed systems to eliminate millions of false negatives from the mail stream, produced data visualizations of the entire IPv4 space as a 3D bar chart of /16 CIDR blocks, and is the principal architect of the free open source data visualization software, Mal4s.

Lorenzen is also the primary architect of the ZoneCruncher tools known as April's Cool Tools that are often used by law enforcement, Internet security firms, anti-spam and academic researchers. She works with organizations involved in Internet data analysis, including CAIDA at the UC San Diego Super Computing Center Spamhaus, the Internet Software Consortium's Security Information Exchange, REN-ISAC and SURBL. As a frequent speaker at international ISP, law enforcement and security industry conferences, she shares her expertise to help organizations contain malware and spam. Lorenzen has presented at the Anti-Phishing Working Group, Internet2, Internet Security Operations Task Force, and M3AAWG, and is a recipient of the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance award for "Outstanding Support in the On-Going Battle Against Cybercrime," as well as the 2016 award for Global Impact from DHS Science and Technology Directorate, Cyber Security Division.

https://www.ndsu.edu/conferences/cybersecurity/speakers/2017_speakers/
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Manafort was a setup, this was all brought up back in early May. Here's an archived thread about it.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125263281/#125263281
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>>133357158
more shoes than Amelda Marcos
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>>133368193
You guys dig far too deep in the stupid hole with this stuff. If Putin wanted to collude with Trump why the fuck is he going to his son and not the guy running the campaign himself?
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>>133367960
>>133367892
>>133367789
Goldstone is a britbong. But again Veselnitskaya is not an Attorney General. Chaika is. However there is a possibility they know each other. Not sure how closely though.
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It looks like Dissect Cyber is her own personal LLC. Two employees with $106k in revenue / year. http://listings.findthecompany.com/l/9478792/Dissect-Cyber-Inc-in-North-Kingstown-RI
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>>133365057
>7. Trump expected to lose
Can confirm, when I saw that picture of him on the campaign trail with the nameplate of 'Mr. Trump' instead of 'President Trump' I was legitimately triggered. "How dare he doubt me like that?" But maybe he was trolling me.
>>
bump for new bread
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>>133368193
>She's been lobbying on behalf of the Russian government for years
What are you talking about? There is only evidence to indicate she hates Putin. Here she is with McCain and the anti putin lawyer who represented pussy riot. Get your facts straight. Regardless of her political leanings, she was obviously not a government official. That became clear after the meeting, so was of no consequence re: any inquiry into meetings with Russian officials.

Sorry, but facts are facts. She's either a government official or she isn't. And she isn't.
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>>133367884
So if a foreign national paints your campaign bus, that's not a thing of value?

Opposition research is a service candidates pay for, how much the exact dollar value is is not relevant to the act at all.
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>>133365522
Can you provide a source of the thousands of precincts voting machines failing?
Voting machines are Not able to connected to the Internet for security reasons. Any tampering would have to be physically done and the logistics to that and not get caught would be insane and improbable, especially for a foreign government.
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>>133368193
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>>133367790

A bunch of sperglords tried months ago. Everything was ignored. We're talking even muckrakers like Gateway Pundit and Infowars.
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the russia shit will never end. Fuck I miss pre election and HWNDU. I want to go back. Its nothing but russia now.
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>>133368453
You're on the good tracks Igor.
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>>133368193
>she represented herself via Goldstone as being part of the government.
How are you not getting this? After the meeting, it was clear she was not a government official, so when the inquiries started re: meetings with russian government officials, there was no need to report her.

Are you intentionally not reading this point? God damn you jews are annoying as fuck.
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>>133368851
it'll be forced to end after 2018 when republicans actually make gains. At this rate the population is sick of it.
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>>133368410
>You guys dig far too deep in the stupid hole with this stuff.
That's kind of the point laddie.
You make them dig a hole and then bury them in their own grave, alive. Of course, you have to provide the shovel and the bait. You tell them that there's a buried treasure at the bottom and hand em the spade. It's all a bait, a ruse.
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>>133365522
>the Russians did in fact meddle with the American election.
I'm not sure why you think that when we have proof the DNC operatives were deliberately creating evidence to frame russia for such things. Pic and link related.

http://archive.is/9MOCR

You've got to break yourself of the fake news and start researching facts.
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This is definitely April's FB page. She's friends with Natalka Kopcyk (whom she mentioned in a linkedin article.) A Lelain Lorenzen liked a photo on Natalka's FB page, and April is friends with her, too. This woman didn't even bother to hide her friends list. Baffling. https://www.kikebook.com/april.lorenzen
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>>133368755
>A wife of Attorney General of Moscow Region
>Defending interest of Minister of Transport of Moscow Region
>at least two times
>Lobbying against Magnitsky Act
>Abolishion of which is a what Our govt wants

>There is only evidence to indicate she hates Putin.
>because facebook photos of her attending libtard shitfest while in NY

Yeah, legit. Totally legit.
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Make new thread.
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>>133360665
this but unironically
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>>133369402
But...
she's not a government official.
so.. you're BTFO. Jr. knew she wasn't an official after the meeting so didn't have to report it.

The end. Talk all you want. Those are the facts.
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>>133368904

1.) she is connected with the Russian government
2.) Trump Jr should've gone straight to the FBI
3.) after two years of denying any collusion, Trump Jr was eager to collude, and your best defense is "when he got there she wasn't even a legit Russian government agent!"

Read #3 two or three times and let it sink in.
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>>133367526
>You're staring a smoking gun in the face right now.

Yeah, the smoking gun is an email full of specious keywords that were used as a pretext to wiretap Trump Tower in June 2016.
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>>133361189
Well, bailiff, a thing of value which is called out as part of this espionage act is:

>official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia

So, in order to prove it's espionage, these documents need to be surfaced. That's what those people wondered and tried to find out, and that doesn't make them guilty.

In fact, it's arguable that they tried to protect national security by revealing a presidential candidate's, Clinton's, dealings with a foreign power.

If I'm a prosecutor, I'd be more interested in Hillary's dealings with Russia, than Trump's non existent ones. Assuming this boat will hold anything at all.

If I shoot someone holding a gun at me, do I get any sentence?
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>>133369822
>connected
the fuck does that mean? Either she works for the government or she doesn't.

And she doesn't. Being passionate about some shitty russian adoption law doesn't then establish you as a government agent.

jr. did not view her as a government agent, and she is not officially a government agent. Case closed.
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>>133369633
Again, I've already said that Don Jr. did nothing criminal. >>133367544

I'm arguing strictly against this "Veselnitskaya is a DNC agent" narrative. Because it's misleading bullshit targeted against those not able to read russian.
In fact i'm pretty sure that she did what she did with our govt men knowing about her actions very well. But yes, officially she wasn't our agent.
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>>133370065
>Russian flag
L M A O
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>>133370065
IS the OP pic Rundown correct in your opinion?
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>>133368750
Bump for new April Lorenzen/Tea Leaves bread separate from the Don Jr. stuff.
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>>133370127
Quick, faggot
You better report it to your maple syrup investigations team
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>>133370065
>Being this autistic

Fine, she amounted to a pawn in a coordinated effort to create a pretext for wiretapping the Trump campaign -- something that actually is illegal, and for which members of the prior administration must hang
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>>133370035

>jr. did not view her as a government agent

He did when the meeting was set up.

In fact, he viewed her as a Russian agent part of the Russian government's efforts to get Trump elected.

Have you even read the emails?

You must be brain damaged to not see how significant this is.

You guys thought pizza was code for pedophilia and you can't see how this is significant. It's unbelievable.
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