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London attack a possible accident thread #2

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I have been paying attention to this London so called "terror attack" and looking at the information so far. I'm thinking this might have been an accident for the following reasons:

>1.) Witnesses reported hearing screeching. If a person is trying to kill people, why would he be attempting to stop the vechile.

>2.) Reports say he the driver stopped his vehicle and got out of the vehicle. Why would a person purposefully hit a bunch of people and get out of the car unarmed only to get his ass beat by the mob? Which is what happened.

>3.) "An eyewitness told BuzzFeed News that the suspect shouted “I want to kill all Muslims as he was being detained.” This is only one person who says this. His interview also seems to have some mild inconsistencies. Despite all the video recorded by people at the scene, there is no evidence of him shouting such things or laughing and blowing kisses as another witness stated.

>4.) I saw a video of a reporter interviewing people at the scene (if I run across it again, I will post it in the comments). Muslims were coming up to the reporter doing the interview and aggressively telling him that he better report it as a terrorist attack, and not as the person being drunk, mentally ill, or any other narrative.
Anybody notice any other abnormalities in this situation?

This could be just like the Muslim girl in Virginia who was killed that people assumed was a hate crime, when it was actually a Hispanic guy who killed her due to a road rage altercation.

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old thread >>130551193
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He hasn't been charged yet. Arrested on suspicion of murder, police are investigating as a possible terrorist attack to cover their bases. I honestly believe he'll end up getting charged with dangerous driving/DUI/manslaughter and other accident-related things.
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>>130567889
Video of Muslims telling journo how to report this incident
https://youtu.be/h6uFeqf9eTI?t=34s
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>>130567889
>>130568391
One of his 4 daughters lost a leg in the Aretha Grande concert bombing. This was revenge. Confirmed in another thread.
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>>130567889
i'll repeat my theory for the new thread.

>Paki elder has heart attack
>Other Pakis attempt to flag down van for assistance
>Welsh provincial sees gang of darkies attempting a car-jacking like something out of a Guy Richie movie or something
>Paki get in way as van attempt to veer round
Welshman panics as Pakis bounce of transit bumper and pulls into nearest side turning in miscalculated act of honour
>angry Pakis drag him from cab and savagemy beat him
>Paki elder dies anyway
>Pakis lie about incident to media circus
>Welshman, who desperately wants to be removed from situation, gives his Paki attackers a cheeky wave as he is finally safely ensconced within police-van.

Case closed chaps.
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And when the truth comes out and all the witnesses shown to be lying, there will be a massive Muslim chimpout. No doubt in my mind the authorities are shitting their pants because the truth doesn't 't fit the nice little terrorist narrative the savages cooked up.
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>>130567889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9dDZU2hRIs
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>>130567889
Was there anything in the van? Why was he in Lahdun?
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>>130568828
There's already videos showing the inconsistencies of their story.
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>>130568391
he will be murdered in jail and his family will be raped/murdered by muslims within 2 weeks.

the police will do nothing about this.
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>>130568647
Where is the thread? The only one I found is the one with Mexican OP whom claimed it happened without any evidence.
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>>130568647
Or perhaps a brief thought of revenge that due to alcohol he couldn't change his mind fast enough to not drive the van off the road.
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>>130568647
>One of his 4 daughters lost a leg in the Aretha Grande concert bombing. This was revenge. Confirmed in another thread.
don't you turn as low as rag-heads in shitposting lies?
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Training Drill. She is carrying a laminated number card. They wouldn't use them on real injured people.
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>>130568647
Sure, faggot. Thanks for playing.
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5629672,-0.1081869,3a,75y,298.66h,77.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLxAAzwWaDH1K0cEaPLUq5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It just makes no sense he came down this bus lane, and swerved into this alley (a 90 degree turn, at high speed, without damaging the vehicle at all).

Even if he could pull off that turn - how did he know any Muslims would be there? The mosque isn't in that area
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>>130569134
Of course not. The media is dealing with pissed off Muslims who are intimidating them to report this as terrorism before the police can even investigate. When's the last time an obvious Islamic terrorist attack was called that even after days of it happening? But this is already being called terrorism and it happened last night.
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>>130567889

Main points, driver not likely doing over 20 mph when he made a sharp left down into that side street, poorly lit, may not have seen small group attending collapsed man at the junction, unfamiliar with area and comes to a stop a short distance down alley, only damage to vehicle a loosening of licence plate one side, seemingly no lights on so he has likely turned off engine before exiting vehicle, did not hit parked car within alley..
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>>130568647
Don't be fucking retarded.

Oh, too late
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>>130567889
video scene of the attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVS2qRdj6-g

I took screenshots of the video. They film it in the crash alley, but no mention of truck. Just wounded people. Car right smack in the middle of alley

traffic still going down the street. No police presence. no guy getting beat up for 10 minutes
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>>130569535
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfaEeFYKlg0
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any more word from the police? the man has been in custody for a long time now surely he must have given them his version of events
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i've put some rough translations next to the most important things to know.

i filled in read quran online on google trends.
first of all: why is the uk on the 2nd spot for most searches?
and secondly: why is the graph going up and down so frequently
do people want to read the quran in the summer or something?
>pic related
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>>130567889
>Rams into a crowd of Muslims leaving a mosque

That's literally all the evidence you need. He drove all the way from Cardiff
He was goading the crowd when they caught him too.
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>>130569134
His family is in legit danger. He can be protected in jail but his wife and kids are open targets.
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>>130569411
>seemingly no lights on so he has likely turned off engine before exiting vehicle
>>130569535 shows that rear lights were on.

Damage is still very limited considering he knocked down a bollard.
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>>130567889
Bane?
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>>130569535
I've watched it twice but can't make out anyone getting beaten up. When does that happen? It's so dark.
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>>130569757
Rams into them going what, like five mph?
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>>130569757
It happened a couple of streets away from the mosque, not right outside. see >>130563560
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>>130569757
>He was goading the crowd when they caught him too.

Evidence of this?
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>want to kill mudslimes
>only death is the person who was dying before the Ramadan Rammer Van arrived on the scene

This really activates the almonds.
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>>130569875
Here are some updated pictures
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>>130569852
And if the slimes touch his family we will have the cleansing
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>>130569757
>He was goading the crowd when they caught him too.
Based on the videos, he just waved goodbye like the cheeky Brit he is.

Also, he got beat the shit out of by radicals before more peaceful Muslims subdued him.
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>>130567889
>I have been paying attention to this London so called "terror attack" and looking at the information so far. I'm thinking this might have been an accident for the following reasons:
It's a white terrorist attack, you retard and terrorist apologist.
When will white terrorist attacks end??
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>>130569699
What's that sound? Sounds like a whimpering dog at regular intervals during the first half of the clip.
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>>130569276
He was driving 30 to 40 most likely and braked far too late after he caused the damage.
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>>130570163

>>130570280
Like he says. He was also blowing then kisses.

>>130570059
A van doesn't have to go that fast to main someone. Maybe he wanted to be sure he actually hit them in the alley instead of a wall.
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>>130570574
when shitskins go back to their inferior homelands
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>>130569219
Police wearing poppies in June?
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>>130570574
What's wrong with investigating things for ourselves rather than take the media at their word? If it was a terrorist attack then the evidence should bear that out.
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>>130569757

He's looking at his fingers after checking his cuffs and wiggling them about, could have been concerned about circulation or if any had been broken when he was attacked.

Can appear as a cheeky wave but may not have been.
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>>130568752
This seems possible.

>The lack of injuries
>Lack of damage to the van
>Multiple reports that the person was already 'down'
>Was nowhere near the mosque

Plus Muslims are notorious deceivers, worse than the Jews.

No reason why we can't see the CCTV footage, which we never will as it will prove the above.
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>>130569699
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=hfaEeFYKlg0

Download here in case it's removed
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>>130567889
>>130567889
>>130567889
>>130567889

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40332616

>They had been helping a man who had collapsed. He later died but it is not clear if it was because of the attack.

You're telling me this so called "white terrorist" may not have killed anyone?
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>>130570687
There is no video of him blowing kisses.
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>>130570687
>He was also blowing then kisses.
The videos I saw didn't have him doing that, I think that was just a witness' impression.
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>>130570199
You can see the car also in this pic.
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>>130570687
>Like he says. He was also blowing then kisses.
zero evidence for this claim.

Lets just face the facts - it was a tragic traffic collision that was caused by Muslims walking in the street.

No happenings for you today, pal.
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>derranged looking man hires truck in Wales, drives to London and swerves into Muslims outside mosque
>PURE COINCIDENCE!

Never change, alt righters.
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>>130570687
He'd be the most cautious terrorist ever then. Hilariously being reported that he started screaming that he wanted to kill all Muslims and yet he doesn't say a fucking thing during his ass beating >>130569699 nor during his arrest.
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>>130570687
I have seen no evidence of the kisses, and the witnesses testimonies are extremely suspect. For example, they said he and two other men got out and started stabbing people. There were no other men and no one got stabbed.
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>>130571022

not great publicity for Pontyclun Van Hire desu
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>>130571022
man that guy must have pulled in there at grandma speed.
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>>130571029
>walking in the street.
All of the people hit were on the small side road, not the main road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfaEeFYKlg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVS2qRdj6-g
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>>130570717
>when shitskins go back to their inferior homelands
What if their homelands are the places where the attacks are happening?? That would turn you into a raging retard, just like the car driving attacker, right?
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>>130570199
The key question, is why did he get out of his Truck? If I wanted to kill, I'd start backing up. No knife either.
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>>130571086
his country is being invaded... I applaud the man. Maybe the interlopers will finally go back to their dilapidated and indigent homelands, and stop trying to rape their way into the superior Western world
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>>130571086
>derranged looking man
conjecture
>swerves into Muslims
More conjecture.
>outside mosque
Factually incorrect. The mosque is a few streets away.
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>>130571086
There are mosques in Wales, why come all the way to London?
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>>130570893
Investigation is fine. Retarded politically motivated denial is not.
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>>130571021
>>130570980
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/finsbury-park-terror-attack-mosque-10646160
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Every car accident in which a muslim pedestrian gets hit is henceforth islamophobic terror. Be sure not to say anything silly while they are lynching you, now!
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>>130567889
Sometimes drunk folk just do stuff.

Also part and parcel.
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>>130571373
Straight to archive https://archive.is/R4sdX
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>>130571361
>Investigation is fine
Glad we agree. Now fuck off.
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>>130570976
Frieza didnt kill the Elder Namekian but they bullshitted the Dragon Balls to rez him for the 5 minutes remaining in his natural life span. They're going to use fucking Dragon Ball Z logic to pin the death on him
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>>130571132
The 'kisses' is some tiny clip where he peeks through the window and his lips appear pursed.

Given that he had previously been punched and kicked in the face, it seems presumptuous to say he was blowing kisses based on that alone.
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>>130571421
Hero of /pol/.

Stand at attention, anons.
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I find it disgusting that its been less than ONE DAY and these motherfuckers are already trying to restrict white people even more, and are already screaming it was a white racist terrorist attack before anyone on any side has had the time to do anything like a serious and comprehensive investigation.

These "people" hate you, brits. There is nothing they won't do to disadvantage harm and kill you.
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>>130571239
One bloke is clearly lying in the bus lane.
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>>130571086
Shut the fuck up you nigger loving liberal faggot UK piece of shit. I hope the next nut and bolt crock pot bomb that some goat fucker blows up is about 25 feet away from you and it tears your useless shitskin body into pieces.

Fuck off, Muhammad
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>>130571361
terrorism isnt the problem you retarded fucking white boy, muslims are.
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Poopoo peepee
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If he wanted to kill people, none of the actual evidence makes sense.
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>only 1 kill

Pathetic from the white man.
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>>130567889
Who cares? You are missing the point! An eye for an eye! Please let there be more against the mohaniggers! :D
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>>130571277
Quite literally my point. But attacks on your own people by your own people are the price you pay when you propagate a virulent and inherently violent ideology. (See: Shia v. Sunni conflict)
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>>130571132
On no news site have I seen that mentioned.

Seriously why is it so hard to belive that a white guy got pissed off and wanted to kill some Muslims? It's happened in the US already.
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>>130571531
At which point in the video/s?
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>Welsh 'people'
>White
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>>130571665
Its hard to believe because all the witnesses are shameless liars by definition as they are taqqiya practicing jihadi muslims who are DEFINITELY terrorists.
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>>130571665
>Seriously why is it so hard to belive that a white guy got pissed off and wanted to kill some Muslims? It's happened in the US already.

Except no Muslims died due to his actions.
Questions for you.
1. Why did he leave his truck and not backup? Clearly there wasn't enough damage to disable the truck.
2. Why did he not have a knife or some other weapon if he intended to leave his truck?
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it definitely wasn't a terrorist attack (but it should have been)
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>>130571373
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/finsbury-park-terror-attack-mosque-10646160

That's pathetic, he could be doing literally anything there.
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>accident thread

This is really quite sad, reasons like this is why pol is laughed at so much. You can accept terrorist attack after terrorist attack as long as it's a Muslim, suddenly it's a white guy and it HAS to be an accident. Pathetic.
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>>130571665
>Seriously why is it so hard to belive that a white guy got pissed off and wanted to kill some Muslims?

The lack of success...
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>>130571373
Looks like he's spitting or clearing his throat. Maybe he's drunk and a little pissed that he just got swarmed and beaten by literal mob?
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>>130571239
It sounds like he's shouting "They want to kill me! Get off! They want to kill me!". Is it only me?
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There are three victims seen here. The one lying with the blue is later seen sitting up with some blood on his head. On the left off screen is a guy sitting on the street next to a wheelchair. In the other video it looks like when he tries to get back into the wheelchair he's being told to wait.
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>>130571765

He was English you faggot
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He was heard saying "I want to kill muslims" and there is video of him blowing kisses and waving at the muslims when he was in the back of the police van
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>>130571881
Maybe the truck got stuck. Dude, a scene like that is chaotic. Or maybe he wanted them to kill him to make a point. He reportedly said "Kill me. I've done my job."
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first of all in the previous thread someone mentioned people heard screeches from the car. later someone responded saying that it could've been drifting. i don't suspect that since i can't seem to find any drifting traces, so i think he tried to stop the van.
second of all i do see a lot of trash on the ground which makes it seem that there was indeed chaos. but i don't see any blood. it hasn't rained there since the accident and crime scene investigators don't clean that up. obviously there is a tent so there could be blood there but no traces on the van.
third of all the car seems parked in a position where he could have driven away. he was barely touching the car at that moment so he didn't seem stuck. if he really had a bad motive he would have driven back and forth till he got stuck to make as many victims.
later police found out that there were bottles with a fluid. it could have been molotov cocktails since he also had a lighter with him well? why didn't he throw the molotovs? i'm not sure if it was a terror attack he would've thrown them.
also in the article it said that a group was helping an elderly man who had fallen. maybe he had a heart attack which could have been the cause of death.

my conclusion: there are three possibilities,
1. he was drunk and drove into the crowd of people by accident
2. he did have an accident there, maybe it was dark and he didn't see anything.
3. he was a terrorist


you decide what his motive was
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>>130570955
>worse
>Jews
Pick one
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>>130571561
>terrorism isnt the problem you retarded fucking white boy, muslims are.
No, terrorism is the problem. It's often perpetrated by white people. We have to address this.
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>>130571993
It's only you, you're hearing what you want to hear because it justifies your feelings
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>>130571993

Seems so
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>>130571998
I don't understand what I'm looking at. You circled three piles of shit in the street?
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>>130572040
circumstantial..
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>>130571947
Plenty of Muslim terrorist attacks also fail to kill people.
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>>130571993
'You want to kill me? You want to kill me?' Is what I hear.
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>>130572159
lmaooo pic looks a little dated there bro
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>>130572159
nobody cares about your weird little white boy mental issues, goyim. muslims are, in fact, the problem for the only humans that actually matter.
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>>130572040
If you watch >>130571239 first video it doesn't sound like he said "I want to kill muslims" at all. It sounds like he said "Get off! You want to kill me!" at the start of the video
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>>130567889
There was at least one helicopter circling above
according to witnesses
Had to have been a false flag hoax perpetrated by UK special branches
Also, three men in the van according to witnesses. UK cops claim they only saw and arrested one and deny all knowledge of the other two
So looks as if the guy they charged was the patsy
or the whole thing was orchestrated will crisis actors
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>>130571604
>But attacks on your own people by your own people are the price you pay when you propagate a virulent and inherently violent ideology.
No. Quite literally the point of Dylann's attack is that a retarded angry white boy attacked people who had been in the US just as long as he had. It came out in his trial that he had undiagnosed autism, like many itt.
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>>130572183
Watch the beginning of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfaEeFYKlg0
The first two things he said sound very much like "Get off. You want to kill me"
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Obv brits are drunks and driving on wrong side constantly. Brits are too submissive to commit a revenge attack.
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>>130571373
Bit too blurry to be conclusive.
Regardless, this was after he had been savagely beaten for accidentally clipping some idiots who were standing in the road.

If he is 'blowing a kiss' it would be understandable. I think most people would be in a state of delirium after being rescued from a gang of savage Pakis, and would indulge in a bit of light banter.
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>>130572159
This
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>>130572238
yes, but that's normal for subhumans
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>>130571942
>t. quintessential brit

It'd be one thing if there was a trail of bodies, but there's not. The only person who died was literally already on the verge of dying before the guy even hit people. Thats not even mentioning the fact this happened a good distance away from the mosque itself. And then you get to the witness statements of the guy speeding down the bus lane, yet he managed to do a clean 90 degree turn into a small dead end alley going at an alleged 50mph.

I thought this might have been intentional in the immediate reporting, but looking at the publicly available info that doesnt quite seem to be the case. There's CCTV in the area, sure would be nice to see it.
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>>130572147
>Maybe the truck got stuck
Pictures of the scene don't show this. There is also no visible damage to the van.
>Or maybe he wanted them to kill him to make a point
What the fuck point would that be?
>He reportedly said "Kill me. I've done my job."
what's the evidence for this?
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I wonder if he was a practiced London driver, and how much experience he has with driving trucks. It was dark, Muslims were all swarming in the alleyway with one laid out flat having a heart attack or something. This guy has had a long day, maybe a few beers in him, doesn't know where the fuck he's going or how to manage a big ass truck. Stupidly decides to turn into the alleyway and BOOM. Right into the hornet's nest. He must have felt awful and then terrified, and then relieved when the cops finally got him away from the mob and into the van.
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>>130568647
stop being such a gullible redditor
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>>130568647
this.
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>>130568647
Source? Post source?
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>>130572297
>nobody cares about your weird little white boy mental issues, goyim.
>thinking no one cares about white terrorism
>thinking you can get away with being a terrorist
>actually being a terrorist sympathizer.
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>>130571691
I was looking at the second video, but on further inspection I think that is the welshman.
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>>130572764
There is no evidence for it because it's a lie used by pissed off terrorist goat fucking muslims.

They lie at all times daily and hourly.
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>>130572969
why dont you stop hiding that flag of yours so we can make fun of you?
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>>130572370
Oh.... So muslims have been in Europe as long as whites have? Sounds like u need some time off man lmao
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>>130572427
"You wanna kill me" is repeated a couple of times, yes. Don't know who's saying it, tho or whether it's a question or a statement.
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>>130568566
Even the reporter looks Paki; we're beyond saving.
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>>130568647
Rip
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>>130567889
>turn on CNN
>TERROR IN LONDON, ITS HORRIBLE!
Oh, god, this must be a big one with all the coverage it's getting
>1 dead, 10 injured
That's it? This shouldn't even be on their radar!
>...but...
>the driver was white, the victims were muslim
>so we get speeches from every politician about "terrorism is bad, OK?"

Fucking postmodernist slime. What they are doing is probably more dangerous, and will probably cause more death in the long run than most of the shit we're conditioned to hate (like tobacco companies), yet they are lauded as crusaders for justice, "informing" us of all the atrocities in the world.

For their marxist utopia, they probably think it's worth it to get almost all of us killed.
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>>130569535
so a person jumping out with a knife was a lie
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>>130569212
>>130569226
>>130572845
Didn't u see the thread? He linked multiple sources. You are the gullible redditors here. His daugther was killed.
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>>130572040
>He was heard saying "I want to kill muslims"
by who? there is no evidence to support that claim.

And the cheeky wave is a normal reaction to being plucked from a baying mob who were trying to kill you.
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This is like some beautiful mind shit. Think you guys are giving me the autism.
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>>130573281
yes i saw the thread which is where i got the screenshot, there were no sources at all, just a larping beaner
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>>130572944
I watched the manchester bombing story like a hawk and there was never any girl who lost legs. I recall the homeless guy made up some bullshit story about finding a girl with NO LEGS and wrapping her in a shirt. Bunch of lying fags
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>>130571421
This legend is helping to kill MSM.
Do what they say and use archive.
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>>130573149
Considering everyone is speaking in Arabic except for one person, I'm guessing the one person speaking english is Darren. The person speaking sounds like he's freaking the fuck out too. And he starts off by saying "Get off", and Darren is currently being grabbed by multiple worshipers.
I can't say 100% that the person speaking is him, but I don't see who else it would be.
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>>130572993
It is. At 0:50 in the first video you can see the entire bus lane is clear.

I want to see some CCTV footage. There's no way he had a knife as has been claimed. I'm not seeing stab victims.
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>>130573533
true just little innocent white girls who had their flesh torn from their bones by nails
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>>130568647
>says that a piece of info was confirmed in a another thread
>doesn't post an archive or link
People like you are cancer
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>>130567889
bump, no terrorism here
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>>130573603
So lets paint a picture of what happened.

>unknown time period before incident
>incident happens
>dead person who was dead before the event even happened is used to prop up the lying narrative
>muslims immediately assume its some sort of terrorist attack and start trying to kill the welshy
>welshy gets rescued by police
>muslims lie their sandy asses off
>media unabashedly on the side of shitskins lies their asses off
>we are now here
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>>130567889
Yeah, the only thing backing up it being a "terrorist attack" is Muslims saying he said he wanted to kill Muslims. He wasn't known to police, no terrorist group has claimed responsibility, his method of attack was barely deadly and he didn't try attacking anyone with a knife. It's ridiculous how quickly it's been decided by the the media.
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You guys have better ears than me. All I can hear on the video is LULUULUULLULULULULU sandspeak.
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>>130567889
holy crap

you guys really are in full damage control mode here

hilarious!
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>>130573603
Another video had at least one female speaking english and, although it doesn't look it, this is London, so it is not unlikely that it could be someone else. Could be our driver, tho.
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>>130570846
>poppies
>on your right hand side
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>>130568647
IT'S TRUE! IT'S TRUE!
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>>130573991
But you knew the muslims were going to lie about this for their own gain from the start of this whole debacle, and you knew the media was going to decide he was guilty of everything under the sun the moment they found out he was white, so why are you surprised?
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>>130567889
in the meantime USA supports ISIS in syria so far as to shoot down a syrian jet
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>>130573973
So he was thrown out of a pub on Saturday for being drunk. What does that prove? Dude's probably hitting the booze since his wife left him.
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>>130573976
don't forget the HERO imam who saved the day before police could arrive. The queen will probably award him A HUNDRED MEDALS
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>>130569751
>do people want to read the quran in the summer or something?
It's fucking Ramadan
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>>130573603
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>>130574043
doesn't make a difference one way or another... The longer the west lets inferior peoples quarter with them, the more irreversible damage will be done
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>>130573973
Daily Mail are utter scum.

There is no evidence for any of their assertions and they are reporting on an on-going investigation as if motive has been established.
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Every reason to think this was an accident, all evidence suggests van has turned off main road into side street not at high speed, the alley is dimly lit and he has possibly not seen a small group crouched down in the junction attending a collapsed man, also unaware side street is a dead end and comes to rest at bollards, not the way this would be done with any sort of intent or planning.
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I don't think the British would invent anything, except maybe trying to convince the poor guy that he actually is a terrorist.
So when his statement comes out, with lotsa I'm so sorry and whatnot, will the media say sorry or will they insist that he just plays 5DJihaddi Chess?
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>>130574043
I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest it was not deliberate but there is plenty of footage which discredits parts of the media story.
>50mph
>He had a knife
>He said X
>He did Y
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>>130574328
>don't lynch
>become hero
wow, I'm a hero everyday
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>>130574506
The lugenpresse will trash him a thousand times harder and then scream they were right from the start, what the fuck did you think they were going to do?
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Maybe this was a purposeful attack on Muslims, and I'll the the first to admit it when that's shown to be the case. But based on what he have now, it really looks more like a drunken accident.
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>>130570955
"Plus Muslims are notorious deceivers, worse than the Jews."

Now thats a bit of a stretch.
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From Cardiff myself.

Accident or not, good on the bloke.

Got muslim cunts here saying shit about cardiff being a multicultural city etc and we should all unite..

When the muslims all occupy the same places of the city and don't integrate, and none of them stopped all their cunt friends being terrorist cunts.

Fuck muslims. Cunts.
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Kind of the worst terrorist ever considering he didn't actually kill anyone with a vehicle drinking 50 mph.
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Nobody gives a shit if this was an accident or not. The media has already spun the narrative, and every has seen whatever they want to. Nobody is paying attention to this incident anymore. Facts don't mean anything. Nothing will ever change
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>>130574881
Think this will cause some more shit to happen in Cardiff? As in Muslims will retaliate?
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>>130567889
I'm waiting for tweets like this to start popping up :)
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>>130567889
You guys have all these fucking cameras set up to get the story on this kind of thing and somehow none of the footage ever gets released

Why the fuck do you have the cameras then?
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>>130575131

For sure, just wait for the weekend. The scummy 12-24 year olds will prey on the drunk folks in town
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so many trucks of peace this week.
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>>130575235
They don't want to admit they bought fake cameras.
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>>130575131
Probably, but nothing out of the ordinary anyway.

Best thing about the polish was they beat the shit out of all the somali cunt gangs roaming around.

Used to work at royal mail, having to walk through grangetown / riverside at 6am after shift.. gangs of the cunts everywhere.
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>>130575329
True, I guess it will just increase the crime rate against non-Muslims. Stay safe britbong.
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>>130575235
They have cameras so they can throw you under the bus for being white anytime they want to.

It's not about protecting you, its about protecting your killers.

You're a dumbass if you didn't already know that.
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>>130574702
>what the fuck did you think they were going to do?
having integrity?
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What ever the case. Let this be a lesson to us all.

As cousin Breivek taught us.
Two years planning minimum.
Distraction/theatricality, powerful agents against the uninitiated.
Stay good to extremely fit.
Carry primary weapon and backup weapon.

but most of all ...
Run silent, run deep
Dont tell anyone around you your intentions
plan and execute alone
send out your manifesto as you carry out the attacks
Do not forfeit the element of suprise!
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>>130571942
Mohammed was a pig fuckin fag m8
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>>130574582
I think this is pretty accurate and will be corroborated by cctv footage.
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London is covered in CCTVs. You can't go a foot without being on camera. Why don't we have the whole unedited footage of this incident and the Grenfell inferno? Can no one get their hands on that footage? How come we can catch Shia but not terrorists?
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>>130575820
Yeah, RIGHT.

LUGENPRESSE.

LUGEN, PRESSE.

Think about that for a moment.
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>>130575940
>Accidentally
Why not just go into the bus lane and keep driving ahead?

It's also quite a busy road, he would have to be there at exactly the wrong time.
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>>130576055
We do have a lot of CCTV, but most of it is privatey owned.
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>>130576067
I often see lies by omission for narrative, but in this case if the guy openly says
>hey it was actually an accident
the crying for terrorist attack would be so obvious malicious and blatantly wrong in retrospect
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>>130575696
Certainly. But why can't anyone get a hold of this footage? Isn't it more important than celebrity sex tapes? The war is already happening and it's online. How can a bunch of goatfuckers and child molesters be ahead on this one?
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>>130575940
Yeah, that's what I think too. It's pretty obvious he made the turn (for whatever reason) and the heart attack man was laying right there. Muslims basically caused the accident, although he may have been impaired and not operating with the best reflexes.
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>>130576397
So what? If it's privately owned, shouldn't it be easier?
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>>130574820
hey newfag, Lying to kuffar is a core tenet of Islam.
Also wtf happened to the other 2 guys in the van? or to the people who were stabbed?
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>>130576377
He'd been drinking? Seems likely given the supposed circumstance of his wife leaving him.
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>>130575940

it's just not possible to drive on English Streets without hitting Muslims.

SAD!
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>>130568752
this makes a ton of sense actually
they clearly beat the shit out of him too
and him yelling shit about muslims afterwards doesnt mean he attacked them intentionally
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>>130576489
Sounds like an African security checkpoint.
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>>130571942
>blowing yourself up and going around in a group stabbing people was an accident

Lol OK mate
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>>130567889
It was a Freudian slip
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>>130576377
>had to be there at exactly the wrong time
That's the way many serious Motor Vehicle Collisions are- a clusterfuck of different things going wrong all at once, and being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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>>130576523
>If it's privately owned, shouldn't it be easier?
No, because you have to get in contact with that owner and get them to give you it. The police may also require a warrant.
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>>130575940

/pol/ will be proved right on this one
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>>130576377
how much is the fine for driving in the bus lane in london nowadays? I would say he took the less costly option.
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>>130576377
>Why not just go into the bus lane and keep driving ahead?
I wouldn't like to do the Elk test in a high-roof transit, personally. Also, he may have been complying and pulled in voluntarily, but not seen the group of men squatting on the floor in the dark ally.
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mows down padestrians ((on purpose))
more swarm his van
>gets out
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>>130567889
Taqiya in action lads. The opportunistic little cunts trying to get their shit to stick.
Absolute subhuman filth.
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>>130576908
We'll see. At this point it's just an alternate theory, nothing is in any way concrete.
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>>130576985
Fuck, could you imagine if this were actually the case. Maybe China's laws of 'every man for himself' are superior.
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>>130576798
You are literally using a pirate flag. Are you a pirate, or are you LARPing?
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>>130571942
That's what they're best at, deflecting blame

But they're quick to point the finger when the perp in non white

Hard to take people like that seriously
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>>130567889
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>>130577210
I'm using it because I dislike flags, and it's the closest one to "no flag".
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>>130575940
This.
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>>130577138

If there was evidence to the contrary they'd have released the CCTV
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>>130571421
Is this all you do? Take this (you), young hero.
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>>130571021
He could also have been trying to smell his own breath by cupping his hand over his mouth to see if he smelled like alcohol for when the police arrived. Same general motion by a disoriented drunk guy.
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>>130577237
You're missing something here bud: This is the kind of shit we do for fun.
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>>130570846

those are rape whistles
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>>130577374
>I hate allegiances and governments
>Ohp, private property laws designed to protect criminals prevent me from doing the right thing. Guess my hands are tied.
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GO GO, AUTIST RANGERS
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>>130577138
but we at least discuss it. In media terrorism is already gospel truth
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>>130569699
jesus christ how did these dipshits report this as a terrorist attack
why the fuck would this guy get out of the car if he wanted to kill a bunch of muslims
fuck i hate the world
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>>130577452
>releasing CCTV to the public diring an active investigation, let alone before a potential trial

Is that standard Bong practice? I want to see it as much as the next guy but I doubt they'd just put it out there within a few days of the thing occurring.
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>>130577557
Get the fuck outta here you fucking leaf.
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>>130577237
>taking /pol/ seriously

autists unite!
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>>130577333

Checked and keked
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>>130575940
>>130576377
Because the flagers moved towards the alleyway to avoid contact with the van while the driver continued to avoid them in the same direction
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Police have this figured out, they're probably just waiting for the okay from PM's office to make a statement. The truth will have to smothered in lots of PC bullshit with lots of noise about the seriousness of Islamophobia and even though this wasn't an attack there will be money going to blah blah blah to make Brits of all creeds and colours safer, blah blah blah
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>>130577237
>what is occam's razor?
Muslim drives car on pavement for entire stretch or London bridge, mowing down scores of people, until car is imobilised. Then grabs knife and runs towars HoP and stabs first policeman he sees in the head.

Man drives into dark ally, no knives, no weapons, doesn't even kill anyone - multiple lies already disproved about incident.

You tell me which event seems like an accident?
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>>130577452
Unlikely. This isn't trial by mob, and releasing it before the trial could complicate it.
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>>130577759

Of.course not he's just retarded
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>>130571942
Same goes for you cucks yelling islam is peace and #notallmuslims but now that a white man takes revenge it's a terrorist hate crime attack and every white male is to blame
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>>130576960
absolutely underrated
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>>130577777
Posts like that are exactly why country flags are cancer.
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>>130572445
He was driving on the left. That's actually correct for us bongs.

Bus Lanes are usually not in in function during midnight depending on the area.
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I've driven through Bradford plenty of times (Islamic shithole) and one thing that's always remained consistent is how little regard Muslims have for their own safety on the road. They will just wander about on the tarmac without looking. They generally cannot distinguish between sidewalk and road.

Combine this with a drunk driver in a big white van and you've got a nasty accident.
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>>130577777
FUCKING leafs REKT
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>>130577755
Supposedly he got out and calmly told them that he was going to kill Muslims. I need to see the CCTV footage because that sounds absolutely retarded.

It's also curious that information about him seems so limited. I've seen nowhere mention whether he worked or what job/s he's had.
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>>130577804
>autiste internationale
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>>130577663
No, I mean flags on /pol/.
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>>130577759
>we need help finding a guy, so here's a terrible sketch that bears no resemblance whatsoever.
>London is at a boiling point, and we have video that could help clarify things, but we won't release it because it could hurt us politically, what with our regulating speech bill coming up and all.
Yep, nothing like "due process" to completely fuck the country over.
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>>130577777
Perfection
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>>130568647

No matter the reason for the incident. They should drop all charges!
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http://archive.is/XFrdd

Looks like a simple incident of road rage is about to kick off the fifth crusade
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>>130568752

I BELIEVE THIS!
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>>130578398
Deus vult
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Who here has a troll account? Start a hashtag #prayforvictimsofdrunkdriving #finsbury
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>>130578054
You're right. Bunch people taking that retarded seriously is much better.
>everybody calm down and let the proper authorities handle it. They always do the right thing.
Yep, that's the true /pol/
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>>130577759

There was CCTV footage seen a day or so after the London and Westminster bridge attacks, and if they had footage of this van hurtling at 50 mph along the pavement taking out Muzzies like bowling pins i'm sure it would be playing on every major network right now.
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On live tv last night both BBC and Sky journalists at the scene were more or less ONLY talking about how frightened they were of the soldiers of Allah who they described as angry, hostile and aggressive.
Today according to same news outlets the same mob out looking for trouble were brave, civic minded and commendable.
The assault of a defenceless man - being kicked in the face when he wasn't even struggling - is described as 'understandable anger'. It was a crime and if you or I did it we'd be charged.
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>>130569535
Are these the White Helmets I keep reading about?
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>>130578109
>how little regard Muslims have for their own safety on the road
Exactly this. Anyone's who's lived in an infested area or traveled to an Indo, Asian or African shithole knows it. They have zero concept of road traffic safety, or any sort of safety period.
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>>130567889
>Anybody notice any other abnormalities in this situation?
There have been widespread reports of two other attackers, and that one had a knife and stabbed somebody. Both claims were totally debunked by the police.
http://news.met.police.uk/news/incident-in-seven-sisters-road-247036
>At this stage in the investigation, it is believed that the suspect acted alone but we are of course investigating all the circumstances leading up to the attack. There were no reports of any people having suffered knife injuries.

They also say in the same statement that the one man who died was already dying before the van even got there.
>The attack unfolded whilst a man was receiving first aid from the public after being taken ill in Seven Sisters Road. Sadly he was pronounced dead at the scene at 01:04hrs. Inquiries are continuing to establish whether there is any link between his death and the attack.

And in regards to point number 4, I remember that interview (with the delivery Somalian) and it's also mentioned in that by the guy being interviewed that the van-man said nothing (contradicting later claims of him shouting I want to kill Muslims).

I'm still 100% convinced this was not a terror incident.
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>>130578201
Cool. Glad to know you're still dodging. You hate flags because you're a shill fag.
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>>130577777
WITNESSED
>WITNESSED
WITNESSED
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>>130578054
>brainlets cant understand why a persons geographic location might explain their abominable political views
lol of course is a autismobong
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>>130578784
>>130578938

No, I hate flags because they give retards an easy way to avoid attacking their opponents argument by instead attcking an irrelevant flag. Shown rather well by yourself.
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>>130567889

>screeching only happens when breaking

>screeching doesn't happen when accelerating or sharp turning to mount the pavement
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>>130571022
...and not a scratch on the front of that van either....
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>>130578747
last time I was in this skinny stupid muslim kid on a bicycle just went straight through a busy road to the other side without looking left or right. They are absolutely fucking mad.
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>>130578601
In those cases they were all dead. This is still an ongoing inquiry.
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>>130578748
>Claiming there were stabbings.
>No stab victims.
How fucking stupid can they get.
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>>130577987
>yelling islam is peace and #notallmuslims but now that a white man takes revenge it's a terrorist hate crime attack and every white male is to blame

He didn't say anything like that but maybe if you spam cuck hard enough we'll all accept your version of reality instead.
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>>130577777
Leafs BTFO, how will they ever recover?
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>>130578748

This guy really needs a record scratch meme
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>>130571421
('-')7
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I'm really not a conspiracy nut but something definitely doesn't add up in all of this. Not saying it was planned but the story seems fishy to say the least
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>>130579022
How about all those times I attacked your argument, but you kept deflecting? (In case you're wondering, I'm attacking your argument right now. You can tell by the way I'm referencing your argument and then supply logic and evidence that counters it.)
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>>130579269
Facing the wrong way unless he was going down a one-way street backwards.
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>>130568752

tfw the police here would never call this truth and believe the arabs who screamed "HE WAS NOT DYING THIS IS TERROR REEEEEEEE"
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>>130579345
>How about all those times I attacked your argument, but you kept deflecting?

Please show where I have done this.
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>>130572159
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>>130579080
That's true but there was still ongoing inquiry and people arrested in connection.
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>>130572339
>distraction

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40330789
"Four ministers were warned about tower block fire risks"

Should have been front page everywhere, but not when you can call on MI5
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>>130568647
>>130568647

>/pol/

Known for being a good source of Reliable information
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>>130579022
nobody is fucking arguing with you moron, they are mocking you.
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>>130579422
It's on a motorised swivel mounting.
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>>130571277

>What if their homelands are the places where the attacks are happening?

That's kinda the point, anon. Leave that shit over there.
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he would have been breathalyzed if they suspected drink driving, the result of that should have been known this morning ( its an instant test usually )

I do agree though this is a very strange 'attack'
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>>130577777
kek will bless us by having yellowstone eruption eradicate candada
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>>130579570
Precisely.
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>>130579039
If a van is turning fast enough for it's tires to slide (where the screeching comes from) it will flip. And no, mounting the pavement doesn't cause anything to screech. The screech is the sound of rubber slipping and tearing.
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CCTV Video

https://youtu.be/kUBXRSK0osI
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>>130577333
is this one of those doctors or engineers I keep reading about?
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>>130574784
The instant it's proven to be an accident, the entire story dies unceremoniously. Everyone remembers "muslims were attacked!"

In a month, it'll be "But white people have carried out attacks on muslims!"

In two months, it'll be remembered as "But white people commit just as much terrorism as muslims, and they have privilege!"

By September it's "Islam is the religion of peace, a constant victim of the west, they were enslaved during colonialism, and genocided by the crusades! Even if they did kill white people, which they didn't, they would have every right to do so because of social justice."

Things are completely back to normal before the next ramadan, when the whole cycle has to start again.
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>>130567889
I don't think your first point is as strong as you think. The screeching could be from swerving to hit more people.
Your second point is strange, sure, but no reason to think its an accident.
The third point could just be a witness mishearing something or lying independently.
Your final point is stronger than your others, but you didn't post the video.
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>>130579457
How about you click on my post I'D? It can't be that hard
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What does it matter if he indeed was a white guy trying to get back at Muslims? Could anyone blame him with dry eyes? Muslims fuck everyone up constantly, so of course people are going to fight back at some point.


What did they think was going to happen?
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>>130579248
The main reason why this doesn't add up is that it has been portayed as an attack on muslims. Now, if you wanted to attack muslims, why would you do it at midnight? Wouldn't it be far more effective to drive down finsbury highstreet at noon, when there would be hundreds of the fuckers about.

The narrative about him knowing they would be exiting at that time is retarded. How would he know, why not after one of the many other times they pray? Isn't Friday the main day for prayers?

The whole story is rotten.
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>>130575940
Perhaps people in the road tried to flag down the van thinking it was an ambulance.
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>>130579928
>argue my case for me
I'm asking you to point it out because as far as I can see it does not exist.
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>>130579679

I'v driven one of those vans that was used before. at they absolutely screech when rapidly accelerating when they are empty. when they have no weight in them they are easy to wheel spin.
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>>130579803
he was a good boy A+ in every class and he loved xbox
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by this time tomorrow this story will be completely wiped off the headlines because the truth will reveal itself and he will be charged with manslaughter.
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>>130578601
>i'm sure it would be playing on every major network right now.
and a shekel for a good goyim.
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>>130572159
>most terrorism is whites

Except it is not

Nice try jew
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>>130567889
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>>130579728
I don't watch anything over 16fps
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>>130567889
LOU REED NO
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>>130579422
Still useful. It will tell police if he had driven past first before circling around.

This wasn't an attack right outside of the mosque. If it was deliberate, he had to have known that there would be potential targets on this road, or at least on this section of it.
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>>130580065
Only if you're going in a straight line. Otherwise you're going to tip.
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>>130576377
>Why not just go into the bus lane and keep driving ahead?
In the interview mentioned in the OP (between Sky News and the delivery Somalian) the guy does state that he was in the bus lane.
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>>130576420
You are seriously insane if you expect the lugenpresse to have the slightest shred of integrity whatsoever. Please see your therapist about "confronting and dealing with unpleasant realities".

>>130576438
To be fair they probably aren't all turned on all the time. Also you forgot the whole 'uk government hates the fuck out of you, cracker' thing.
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>>130567889
Don't know why this triggers /pol/ so much. In a week or two a Muslim is going to kill shit load of people again.
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>>130580058
Notice how you're not talking about accessing the CCTVs and why they should/shouldn't be accessed? That's deflection.
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>>130580491

ok. so they said they heard screeching, they didn't say when. so he pulls onto the pavement, rapidly accelerated, the wheels spin and screech, it's mistaken for breaking.

easy.
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>>130580666
You asked why privately owned cctv is not necessarily easier to access than publicly owned cctv. I then told you.
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>>130580685
I can do this too. It was actually a pet howler monkey that was riding on top. His superior night vision helped point out the best victims to hit. Easy.
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>>130575940
>post yfw this is what happened, he pleas not guilty, yet he's convicted of murder and terrorism and is jailed for life without parole and the case is constantly brought up by the BBC as an example of racist terror
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>>130576055
>Why don't we have the whole unedited footage of this incident and the Grenfell inferno? Can no one get their hands on that footage? How come we can catch Shia but not terrorists?
the police have it but won't release it because it's part of a criminal investigation. most likely we might see a few stills from it, maybe only when or if it goes to trial.
different if the guy was dead and wasn't going to get tried, but they can't release evidence before a trial.
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I work in the civil service in the UK.

Already had an email sent out from the head of the civil service, Jeremy Heywood titled "Finsbury Park terror attack - a message from the Head of the Civil Service" condemning it and wishing Muslim colleagues a peaceful end to Ramadan.
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>>130579992
tbf they where just leaving from there prayers
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>>130580058
Not that guy, but you basically just confirmed that you didnt understand what he was saying.

You should stop posting
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>>130580298
ohhh fuck, right. That shitty story happened. They were ready to go RUSSIA so long ago already.
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NEW THREAD
>>130581136
>>130581136
>>130581136
NEW THREAD
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>>130580966
can you take a screenshot and post it here?
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>>130580968
(((prayers))))

plotting.
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>>130579992
I was thinking something similar. The Pakis in the interview were saying he timed it for when they were coming out of prayers, but who the fuck knows what times they pray, and when they spill out onto the streets. He lives in Wales so it's not like he can observe their pattern of movements over several nights.

That's not even counting the fact that he wasn't really that close to the mosque and if you were aiming to run over people who had just finished praying, the mosque would be the place you'd go.

I'm not usually one for /pol/ conspiracy theories, and I'm braced for another
>death to traitors, freedom for Britain
but there really does seem to be so much about this incident which doesn't stack up with the terrorism narrative.
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>>130580397
>be on street
>get run over
oh wew, must be islamophobia
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>>130579829
When he pleads guilty to DUI reckless driving etc. and gets a relatively lenient sentence, they'll be screaming about the racist justice system that allowed a white supremacist islamophobic terrorist to kill with impunity.
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>>130568566
Religion of tolerance at work
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>>130581545
shhh
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>>130581370
he could have just drove around randomly until he spotted a large group of them then doubled back for a good 'approach', so that aspect isn't impossible
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>>130575856
>As cousin Breivek taught us.

Fuck off JIDF.
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