/gear/ - Gear thread

What are the pros and cons of going with the following systems:


>nikon

>canon

>sony

>pentax

>olympus

>panasonic

>>3093699
for a beginner:
pros: you get a camera that takes photos
cons: none you should care about

for a pro:
you should already know what you need, stop asking stupid questions

>>3093675
i am using ZENIT 12xp daily and i need a replacement, because 1/30 to 1/500 shutter speeds are very poor. i would like something similar to this zenit - a solid metal slr, m42 mount, preferably a non-battery-powered shutter mechanism. any suggestions?

>>3093703
>M42 mount
Pentax Spotmatic comes to my mind, though the light meter has failed in most of them.

>>3093703
and as a follow-up to this, i am using jupiter-9. is there a better alternative for this lens, since it is very soft at less than f4? I was thinking about the helios-40, but the "drugged to shit" bokeh might sometimes ruin the picture. another lens that i found was smc takumar.

>>3093704
Also ME Super is a good alternative, though you will need a de-springed M42 to K adapter ring.

>>3093705
Helios has a very expensive but godlike 85mm, also the Meyer/Pentacon 135/2.8 is a poremaster at f/4 (I have a cheap 6-blade aperture version)

>>3093699
pro: kys

con: none, just do it

>>3093699
Evf vs ovf
Ff vs crop vs m43

>>3093703
Practica do the mtl series, which are simplistic but reliable.

Pentax do spotmatic, but the meters need batteries that no longer exist and the workarounds are a bit hacky.

I'd probably go for a later, k mount pentax body and an m42 to k mount adapter, there's the me, mx and lx in all metal designs, much more reliable.

>>3093705
You get what you pay for with old lenses, the sony a7 makes sure of that. If you take my above advice you can use any of the later takumar/pentax primes and you will get decent quality compared to ruski shite.

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>>3093710
these adapters will work properly, right? i know that some more modern adapters kill the inifinity focus.

>>3093699
You get the lens choices each system has natively.

Otherwise, this depends on the camera in question.

>>3093712
Take off the spring and the tiny screw, it can get stuck in some cases. Also listen to anon here >>3093710 and get a nice K-mount lens, SMC K, M or A series lenses. There are lots of cheap and sharp ones

>>3093712
Yup, they work perfect, as the other dude said you can remove the spring, which is a good idea on the cheap China versions, I've got a couple of old official pentax ones that have never given issue. Not that the spring does anything lol.

Is the nikon D80 a good camera?

>>3093725
Get a D7000 instead.

>>3093728
Because someone sold me his D80 with a Tamron 70-300mm / Nikon Lense + White Filter + Ext Light + Tripod for 300€

Is this a good deal?

>>3093710
> later, k mount pentax body
so the me super + smc takumar using the adapter?

i also like canon a-1, although i realize it is fully batter-powered. is that a reliable camera?

>>3093729
How many clicks on the body / does the Tamron have any physical blemishes?

Doesn't sound like the worst deal posted in a gear thread

Also what the fuck is a white filter

>>3093731
it makes black people white, it's what they used on MJ

>>3093729
If you already got it then why are you asking? Read up on beginner photography tutorials, exposure triangle or Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson and go out and take some damn photos!
Also get a cheap kit lens (18-55 VRII) as well, right now you are missing out on normal and wide focal lengths.

>>3093702
>>3093708
>>3093710
>>3093716
Thanks for jack shit you cynical losers. I know what the fucking differences between these systems are. I was asking the question rhetorically in an effort to cut to the obvious question that arises in ever single gear thread.

>>3093734
Please be a troll and not actually this stupid

>>3093736
Please be a troll and not actually this stupid.

>>3093739
Thank you

>>3093725
No. Its a weak old camera, give it to a young kid to play with or something and get a decent recent camera for yourself.

hi guys
I'm looking for an old macro lens with m39 m42 or OM mount to adapt on a m4/3 camera
any ideas ? the cheaper the better ( i mean, under 150$ )
thank

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I'm starting into photography, currently looking for the camera with a budget of $500 bucks. Any recommendation for a noob?

>>3093768
Tamron SP 90/2.8 Adaptall2

>>3093783
Nikon D3300 kit lens bundle, Pentax K-S2 kit lens bundle, Canon 700D/760D kit lens bundle

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A7iii is going to have the same AF as the flagship sports cameras.

That means Nikon is forced to provide the D5 AF on each and everyone of their cameras from now on, or else they will be behind in AF.

Same thing for Canon too, otherwise the DSLRs will slowly be known as the camera type with slow AF.

>>3093675
Just Ordered a second hand
Sony NEX-5
With just a lens cap
Did i do bad or good?
Also any recommendations for lenses
for landscape photography

>>3093675
I'm going to start making short films with my nikon D3400

what lens should I look at?
rn considering the Nikkor 35mm f/1.8

>>3093811
Get an NEX kit lens, not the shitty compact pancake kit lens that comes with the newer Sonys, or a 20-30mm prime and learn to do panoramas.

>>3093811
12mm Samyang
https://www.flickr.com/groups/samyang_12mm_f2/pool/

Also the 30mm Sigma contemporary, though I have no clue how well the AF works with your old NEX.

>>3093826
What does the AF speed matter in landscape?
If the AF works (why wouldn't it?) then it is a good lens.

>>3093822
>>3093826
I looked at the options you guys mention
They are nice as fuck but too expensive

I should have mention earlier that i am New into this hobby and too poor for those excellent lenses


These are my cheapest options though i would be curious to learn what you guys think of these options

-55mm F1.7 PRIME LENS
-F2 50mm lens
-Sony nex E Mount 35mm OPTOMAX PRIME LENS
-Pentacon WIDE PRIME 28mm f2.8


These lenses are all under 60 Euro's

>>3093675
can someone please direct me towards a /p/ guide to lenses for filming? I'm a beginner on a budget and I have no idea at all what I should buy for my gh2

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>>3093675
I wanted to ask if it would be worth getting a mayima medium format camera or a drone. I already have a nikon f3 35mm which makes me debate whether I should get a medium format.
>pic related

>>3093839
50mm on crop is too narrow, mostly for portraits work.
Optomax is shit tier chink shit, don't even consider.
Pentacon 29mm is a piece of shit unusable shit, especially bad from mid range to infinity. That is generic everyday stuff and landscape territory, only usable in close focus. I have one, stay the fuck away from it!
Get a used old NEX kit lens and call it a day. Pester your mum, ask for a loaner, whatever, just get the bare minimum essential that is the normal kit lens.

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>>3093846

Medium Format is pretty cool, but if you live in the rural US you're gonna be doing your own film dev.

>>3093846
Get a drone, at least you get to have some flying fun.
The Quanum Venture deluxe set is cheap at hobbyking now, you only need the Cyclops V2 goggles and a pair of Aomway or Pagoda style antennas.
Plus the batteries, drone and goggles, and a good transmitter like the Taranis X9D or Q X7 and a receiver (FrSky 8 channel)
Try /diy/ RC General and RCGroups forums as well for basic information.

>>3093728
>>3093746
I just tried it out while hiking with my girlfriend and got some really good pics, what is your point?

>>3093847
>Thank you, for this advice i will wait for next paycheck to buy Quality

>>3093856
that camera is good for crushing skulls

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How does it feel to know the near future smartphones will have faster autofocus than your DSRL camera?

>>3093887
phone cameras are nearly focus free. autofocus is irrelevant with so much depth of field

>>3093887
apples and oranges

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>>3093856
How are these Mamiya Press cameras? They're one of the cheaper MF rangefinders our there, but I have no idea how well they work for everyday handeld shooting.

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>>3093839
> I should have mention earlier that i am New into this hobby and too poor for those excellent lenses
Sorry to hear that. I actually picked them as pretty much budget-oriented option.

Like the other anon, I do also not like any of the options you mentioned, but I don't have any under 60 Eur alternatives.

>>3093921
I was actually able to find a Sony kit lens 18-55
For under 60 Euros
If it was not for his advice i would have likely bought a shitty Chinese lens for around the same price

>>3093922
Great. That should be okay as an initial lens.

>>3093861
I did completely mean that this is a weak and old relic from over ten years ago that I'd only hand to a kid to play with but not use myself. It's worse than a current Chinese budget smartphone camera in most situations.

A current DSLR/MILC is honestly so much better in basically every regard that there's really no point in spending time with an ancient device like that now, not even as a more casual user.

But if you feel you get "really good pics" and like the camera, then surely you should use it.

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So I posted in film and they helped a lot, I have another question though and would like some recommendations.

How could I achieve similar lighting in outdoor photoshoot in the dark? I want a similar look to onibaba, which indoor its almost all lit by fire and outdoor most of it is natural moonlight.

I really like the closeups in pic related, what kind of light can i use to achieve that partial lighting over the face?

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>>3093960

also, pic related.

Alright lads, my niece wants a camera for her bday. I want to get her something pretty simple, enough to get wet her whistle, but not too much so it gathers dust in the corner.

>>3093967
Olympus Pen F with the kitlens
Looks killer nostalgia and performs very well.

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>>3093967
>not too much so it gathers dust in the corner.
That's a tough order. Maybe give her something her phone can't do, maybe she will like a lens that zooms a lot.

>>3093975
>>3093976

PowerShot SX710 HS Is the kind of camera I initially thought.

>>3093981
Do you hate her?

>>3093967
A6000 with kit lens. Or if she likes video, maybe a chinese GoPro.

>>3093985
No, please enlighten me.

>>3093994
>chinese GoPro.
>That would work if she has fetal alcohol syndrome

>>3094003
Nah, Runcam 3 is an excellent GoPro Session alternative

>>3093967
Lumix GX8/85, GX7 if on a budget
Small and high performance, can do excellent video and the photo quality is great as well
Looks elegant but modern and fits in her purse, she can carry it everywhere.

>>3094003
Eh? No, many are quite comparable to fairly high-end GoPros, and as such should offer something okay for family video recording and such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXa49dOj_oY

Should I use my 25-85 mm lens for a photoshoot? Or stick to the 50mm for potraits?

>>3094029
I use my 16-45/4 as well as my 70-200/2.8 depending on the framing and situation

>>3094030

Interesting, thanks. I'll do some more tests. Wasn't sure if there was a standard or not.

>>3094031
More than that, f/8 when I separate the background with lighting instead of mah bookez. Softening the skin in post while having every stray strand of hair illuminated and pin sharp.

>>3094029
I'd suggest going with your sharpest lens by default.

But why not try both lenses on some segment of the shoot? You probably aren't in THAT much of a hurry that you can't.

>>3094034

I'm pretty dedicated to this shoot, I'll shoot it again if i have to, but I'm doing enough prep where I hope it pays off. Haven't used my 28-85 mm much in closeup settings since people on the street freak out at it, that's why i was wondering, lack of experience.
>>3094032

Ya i'll look more into that, I'm shooting film so I'm going to do some test runs.

Whats the cheapest wide angle medium format lens I can buy?

I'm trying to make one of those cheap shit DIY tilt shift lenses, but only just realized I'll need a medium format lens to use on my slr. Quality isnt too important as this will be a sort of novelty lens, but its got to be on the wider side for sure.

How much did I downgrade going from a Cannon Ti1 Rebel to an olympus Pen-F

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Need something for traveling to Vietnam. I'll be there motorcycling across the country for at least two months.

Needs to be:
Pretty small
Maybe weatherproof
Do gud video
Fixed lens or interchangable I don't care

Pls help. Currently thinking Sony A6000, Sony RX100, Fuji X100s, Fuji XPro 1, Panasonic GH3/4 . Don't want to lug a DSLR around

meme for attention

>>3094038
40mm is typically the widest most medium format system cameras have. There are wider mf lenses but they're usually stupid expensive

>>3093960
Careful choice of ambient lighting and direction, combined with a mastery of various light modifiers for strobes.

Just like anything else.

>>3094057
A6000 plus secondary sports camera (you know, it's safer than mounting the A6000 on your motorcycle or such, and having a fallback also always is nice).

>>3094071

Ya I'm doing my research leading up to it, can you maybe throw out some recs for some lights? I'm going to try doing some testing with moonlight, candle light as well (multiple candles) I really don't have a flash or strobe of any kind.

I think I'm gonna get a Ricoh GXR with the M mount module. It'll hold me over until I sell enough drugs to finance a Leica M10.

>>3094075
yeah I already own a gopro so I'll bring that too

>>3094083
They're pretty neat, would recommend. You can adapt pretty much any lens to the M-mount module

>>3094085
Yeah, that is what drew me in. Hopefully the focus peaking works as well as advertised.

>>3094084
Figures that combination should be okay. Get a USB power bank and 3-4 batteries each (I was fine with 3rd party Chinese, the original Sony batteries are a rip-off in most places).

Also suggesting to get it while you still have time to test whether you like the kit zoom or rather will prefer some combo like the 12mm Samyang + 28mm Sony or 30mm Sigma Contemporary (what I would do, really) or whatever else might seem good.

>>3094094
Yeah I'm leaving in november so I've got time.

Will probably just get a used body and adapt some rangefinder lenses to it. I use 35mm on film so if I could find a 35mm equiv and a 50 equiv for the sony that'd be good

>>3094095
If you already have some such lenses that are good, definitely try them.

Although with most older lenses, you can not use a 24MP sensor quite so effectively, and wide angle primes also weren't as good as the Samyang 12mm is now.

I almost only use newer glass (usually aforementioned lenses) when I travel.
It's a very nice thing if you can later zoom/crop a bit more.

Ah yes, another thing to consider is to get another compact charger for either device, there are pretty cheap pretty small 3rd party USB powered models on ali etc. that can charge 2 batteries at a time.
Can be nice if you can least recharge ~3/4 of your batteries even if you only stay in a place for a night [if you do not intend charge these with your ride anyhow].

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Beginner here. Just bought a Nikon D3200. It's my first camera and it's arriving tomorrow. I'm just excited and wondered if there's any general advice for people starting photography?

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>>3094059
Thanks, manual focus isnt a problem either, are there any brands that are known for being cheap russian clone type stuff, or is all medium format glass pretty upmarket just by the nature of the format?

>>3094117
Learn the exposure triangle and start out by only taking photos on manual mode. Learning the aperature/shutter speed/iso relationship is the basis of all photography and completely essential if you want to be good.

>>3094128
by MF I meant medium format. Pretty much all medium format lenses are manual focus anyway

most russian clones are pretty sort after still. The Kowa 66 and Kiev are still really good cameras. Medium format was a professional's format, so even the knockoff cameras were expensive.

I know the Bronica SQ has a 40mm that goes for not too much. Same the the Mamiya RB and RZ systems. Expect to pay a good couple hundred or so

>>3094129
Ty anon i love you

>>3093725
It tends too overexpose so set the exposure compensation to -3 or -7. Also, it has commander mode: works on SB 800, SB 600 etc. I set the ISO to 800 max for "usable" colored photos.

>>3094162
>start out by only taking photos on manual mode.
But when you actually want to take pictures of something important, put it in P mode until you actually get the hang of the exposure triangle or else you'll be sorely disappointed when you find out you were shooting at f22.

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>>3094188
>>3094117
>>3094129

I'd recommend Aperture/Shutter Priority personaly.

Put a cap on ISO, and let it meter the uncontrolled setting itself.

Aperture mode lets you control depth of field. Switch it to Shutter if you need to control motion. A hell of a lot more flexible and easier to use than full manual. Especially on a beginner camera lacking control dials.

There is no need to bother with full manual unless you need it.

Tfw bought a 70-200 2.8 to improve my street photog but my pictures still suck

>>3093699
Nikon: yellow lenses
Canon: red lenses
Other: shit tier lenses with no fancy color

>>3094215
L2SigmaArtDiamondLenses

blavk pentax spotmatic sp ii body for 80 usd. is it a good deal?

>>3094214
>70-200
>for street
lel

>>3094253

I legit brought my 85mm to try out in the street once and it went terribly. I was on the train fitting it onto my camera and this asian lady literally asked not to take her picture and hid her face and I just stared quizzically at her not sure of what she meant for a few seconds.

Then I got pulled over by the police for shooting in a public place with it for too long (terrorism threat). I can't imagine putting a big fucking lens on my camera again in the streets. Jesus you feel so uncomfortable, stand out like a sore thumb.

>>3094260
>camera is terrorism
burgerland?

>>3094261

Yes, I think we actually had some terrorists taking photos of security at an airport in new york the same day I was taking pictures.

I was at a major train station, I had the guy tell me to my face with a lot of attitude that I could be a terrorist so he had to check me. Didn't have my ID on me so he said he could detain me but he ended up letting me go.

I guess I need to check my ID in to security the next time i take photos at the train station in LA so I don't get jumped for jihad activity.

I'm not mad but as a photographer it sucks. Didn't you know it happened to a guy in england a few months ago?

https://fstoppers.com/legal/photographer-takes-photos-town-hall-arrested-under-anti-terror-laws-175690

Hi /p/ros, /g/entooman here

I'm a beginner and I know nothing about photography, but I will be traveling for 3 months (I got fired and had almost 600 hours of overtime, so I have enough money to not work for 3 months) and wanted to get a nice camera to take some photos.

My budget is about 400$

Right now, I'm between the Sony Alpha 5000 and the Canon EOS M10

Am I on the right path or should I get something completely different as a beginner? I didn't want to do the huge investment of getting a reflex camera but I wanted to have exchangable lenses in case I start getting enthusiast about photography.

>>3094267
Get the M10, or a nice used M3, the A5000 is a gimped shit camera, totally not worth its price.
The kit lens will do you fine, if you can get a remote shutter, a small set of ND filters and a travel tripod like a manfrotto befree for them nice landscape shots.
Also shoot in RAW, read Understanding Exposure, get Lightroom/Photoshop subscription or use Darktable/Gimp if using Linus.

>>3094267

Spwnd the extra $100 or so and get the Sony a6000.

Much better sensor and af speed than the a5000, plus it has a evf.

>>3094271
Thanks for the advice. Actually the M10 is even a bit cheaper than the A5000, so I'll just go for it

>Darktable/Gimp if using Linus.
I use Krita on Linux but it's mainly because they have anime on their website. AFAIK it's made by a former adobe employee and the workflow is similar to photoshop

https://krita.org/en/

>>3094276
You will want a dedicated RAW converter and Darktable has some very detailed maths type modules you can have extensive fun with.

>>3094278
I was just reading about it. Makes sense and sounds good. Thanks again
>>3094275
I can't obtain one for less than 800 here so it's clearly above budget

>>3094276
Krita is a painting/drawing tool, not a photo developer/manipulator.
Look up some tutorials on Youtube on Darktable and Gimp photo work and see how much it is different from other free drawing stuff.

>>3094280

Yea, a6000 is a solid camera, but not worth $800.

I am not sure how the M10 compares to the a5000, but the a5000 is kinda meh. The a5000 has a better sensor, but the AF is kinda meh. I'd get the M10 over the a5000. Though maybe an a5100 if I could find one cheap. I hear the Canon EF-M 22mm pancake is fantastic.

>>3094282
Held and tried out both. The A5000 feels like a failed attempt to bring APS-C sensor into the instagram world while the M10 feels like a proper camera in use.
It was clear Sony designed the A5000 for the cameraphone userbase

Do you prefer black or silver SLR bodies?

>>3094293
big black ones

>>3094293
BBC

>>3094296
>>3094295
>>3094293
/p/ - cuckolds

>>3094300
With all the Tony Northrup love I am honestly not surprised.

/g/ again
So I went to the store and got a really really nice deal on their last alpha 5100 because it was the demo model. I got 50% off, therefore paid 270 $

I hope I didn't fuck up too bad

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>>3094451
>>3094453
If you only care about image quality, that camera has the same sensor with the same phase detect autofocus as the A6000.
So its sensor is extremely good. (The A6000 is the i5 2500K of your boards equivalent)

The only problem with it is it lacks dials and physical controls.
So you will probably have to use Aperture Priority, and adjust aperture through the back dial. Which is the only dial that thing has.

>>3094451
>I hope I didn't fuck up too bad
You just did.

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I'm going to live in South-East Asia and I want to bring back more souvenirs than smartphones shots compressed by whatsapp.
Is a budget of $500-$1000 enough to get a nice setup?

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>>3094461
>South East Asia
>expensive camera
Enjoy being robbed, raped and imprisoned by Malay pirates, Cambodian human traffickers and Thai ladieboys

>>3094464
You sound like it's a bad thing

>>3094461
Basic beginner DSLR, maybe a WR setup because humidity and rain like the Pentax K-S2 or K-70. Normal 18-50 WR kit lens or the bigger zoom 18-135 WR "premium" kit lens setup.
Similar setups can be found with a Nikon D3300/3400 or Canon 760D, but without the WR or weather sealing.

>>3094469
Ok, I figured too that 'tropicalized' Pentax was relevant in my case. I'll dig into this

>the camera uses a proprietary file system, not available on your free as in freedom computer setup

>>3094481
So go build your own camera if you think you're better.

>>3094451
>>3094453
And this is why I will never go to /g/ for help. Populated by gullible idiots.

>>3094481
Pentax uses DNG, open and free as in freedom.

>>3094453
>>3094451
>comes from /g/
>uses Linux
>buys the (Macintosh)X(Windows Mobile) equivalent of cameras
>asks if he done goofed
Yes Anon, you done goofed.

>>3094486
It's also in its last legs about about to be closed down by Ricoh.

>>3094497
Nope. Fake news was confirmed.

>>3094496
> buys the (Macintosh)X(Windows Mobile) equivalent of cameras
It's actually Android.

Not in a metaphorical sense. They actually run Android. And Sony at least enabled app-level access to it.
It's still a bastardized thing since we don't have ROM sauces and stuff, but it's still better than fully proprietary firmware with no way to run apps.

>>3094486
DNG is proprietary. There is absolutely nothing free about it.

>>3094520
Except the whole format

>>3094526
Proprietary is the opposite of freedom.

>>3094514
Dude, it can have android running on it, but the whole camera itself is just as bad as a macintosh or a windows mobile. You are not a very smart person, are you?

>>3094528
There are worse things he could have gotten for 270 bux.

Everybody can see you have an irrational hate for Sony. Even if you don't admit it.

>>3094514
Yeah, no way to run apps at all...
http://www.magiclantern.fm/
https://nikonhacker.com/

>>3094528
It's still basically the most open thing apart from Android smartphone cameras.

The other cameras aren't even macintosh or windows mobile. They're powered by obscure firmware with no opportunity to run your own stuff. Most will not disclose lens protocols hotshoe protocols either (MFT is arguably at least good in that regard).

>>3094532
>>3094533
Oh and there's also chdk which focuses more on the p&s lines.

>>3093795
>Tamron SP 90/2.8 Adaptall2
Too hard to adapt :/

>>3094533
You have no idea what a camera is for. The A5100 is one of the worst possible options for a camera.
>>3094530
The problem is he could have a lot more much better options for that money if he listened for the advice.
If he can't get the A6000 then there is no reason to get the gimped version. I am talking about the camera qualities, those that the A6000 has but the A5100 doesn't. Hence it is called the gimped shit version. Not a good option. A total waste of money.
He will look up tutorials on YT and will see lots of stuff he can't do easily or can't do at all with that gimped shit of his.
He will most probably set it on Auto and JPEG and will later ask why his photos look shit and why his phone makes better photos than his dedicated camera.

Lesson learned everyone, If you buy Sony, don't listen to the salesperson, buy the mainstream APS-C or FF cameras. Never go below the A6000 level. That goes for future gimped series cameras as well.

>>3094532
Some hackers reverse engineered this. It's a good job by the hackers. Has nothing really to do with the trash you bought from companies that basically made absolutely nothing accessible, though.

Deploying such hacks can in many places legally void warranties and even be actually illegal. Not every place has violating-copyright-is-okay-for-interoperability clauses.

And you still don't have a way to run apps.

>>3094540
>there is no reason to get the gimped version
It's actually a decent selfie camera.
Flipable touch screen with point and focus features.

And under the hood, it's the exact same sensor with the exact same AF performance as the A6000.

>>3094540
> You have no idea what a camera is for.
Teach me, sensei!

> The A5100 is one of the worst possible options for a camera.
It's decent for an older entry-level camera. We could agree that everyone *should* use an actually good camera from not the entry-level, including glass and all.

Though I'm pretty sure you're going with "but $other_brand has good old entry-level cameras, muh Sony can't make cameras". They're really mostly just as shit or even shittier, though.

>>3094541
>Some hackers reverse engineered this. It's a good job by the hackers.
Providence doesn't matter. You're claiming the ability isn't there, and it is.
>Has nothing really to do with the trash you bought from companies that basically made absolutely nothing accessible, though.
See above and nothing is really accessible on the Sony either. They just implemented another way to make additional money off of the platform.
>And you still don't have a way to run apps.
You're an idiot.

>>3094542
>It's actually a decent selfie camera.
There is a special kind of hell for you and your kind.

>>3094541
>Deploying such hacks can in many places legally void warranties and even be actually illegal. Not every place has violating-copyright-is-okay-for-interoperability clauses.
Oh, forgot to grab this bit too.

Not sure of Nikon's take, but Canon has all but openly supported ML/TL/CHDK.

>>3094544
The A6000 is the decent entry level camera. Something you can grow into and grow with while developing your photographic skills.
The A5100 is a gullible idiots camera, a fashion accessory for teens that get confused by normal camera controls and UI.

>>3094550
> Not sure of Nikon's take, but Canon has all but openly supported ML/TL/CHDK.
So the CHDK / magic lantern teams now at least have official licenses for the software / interfaces / patents these companies hold?

>>3094551
It's not that bad. It still has a dial which you can use for Aperture priority or shutter speed priority.

>>3094555
Where is the exposure comp, ISO setting and the AF selector for single point focusing? All of these are a single touch on my camera while using the viewfinder. I can set a lot of things without taking the camera off my eye.

>>3094554
>So I can't read?
Yes, that's exactly right, you can't read.

>>3094547
> There is the option to install wings and jet engines. Cars can fly because Providence doesn't matter!
It matters a lot, particularly when they don't provide the legalese that says this is intended use and that they still have warranty and servicing and other obligations even when you modify your car or camera.

Besides the question is which is like Android software (even bootloader and dm-verify locked, you still can install apps) and which is like your fridge's proprietary software.

> You're claiming the ability isn't there, and it is.
Also no way to manage and run apps last time I checked, no.

You may recognize how virtually every end user device needed program installers or apps for optional features to be practical? Has been that way for 20+ years.

> nothing is really accessible on the Sony either
This is a hell of a lot more than most other companies offer:
https://developer.sony.com/develop/cameras/

But sure enough, it would be better if it was everything including ROM source code and all.

>>3094562
>single point focusing
Touch screen.

Before you use the EVF, you can just touch anywhere you want to single spot to be at.

>>3094565
>Touch screen
cancer

>>3094568
And you are closedminded.

A flipped over touch screen is the easiest way to manage the single point AF when you take selfies. This is the camera's purpose basically.

>>3094563
Oh, so the answer is no, they did not allow or support *anything* even in the most basic sense of officially stating it's okay to do.

So, no support, but actually rather hostile behaviour where they just wait to decide whether they're going to gain a better advantage from blowing these projects up or keeping them alive.

>>3094569
You are the idiot. How do you know which point you want to focus if you didn't even compose the frame yet?
How I do it: Prefocus, compose the image, select the AF point, focus and take the shot. Maybe exp comp if needed.

>>3094574
With a selfie screen?

Just compose and touch to focus.

>>3094564
>moving goalposts
I came in merely to state that the capability exists. You keep clutching pearls over warranty when literally not a single camera has been denied service for having ML/CHDK installed, and you don't actually even have to install it. The providence still doesn't matter.
>Also no way to manage and run apps last time I checked, no.
I love how you seem to not realize that say using zebras in ML is literally using an app.

>some other goalpost moving that seems to imply that I am taking the position that ML is a super polished experience

>This is a hell of a lot more than most other companies offer:
Canon has stepped back and let people rip into their firmware. You literally can't get more access to the camera than firmware level.

What's Sony's historical position on trying to do stuff like that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_America,_Inc._v._Hotz

>But sure enough, it would be better if it was everything including ROM source code and all.
Limited APIs that keep the important bits behind proprietary walls that pretend to be open, but are in no way open. It's literally just a way for people to sell you a different intervalometer with sony taking a cut off the top.

Yes, some official support is cool. Yes, it's more polished than something like ML, but it's not a big deal nor is it all that terribly useful in the current limited implementation (which will never become more open--fuck, those asshats at Sony would still make you use their stupid memory sticks if they could get away with it).

>>3094575
>selfies
just kys

Oh wait, you are more likely to do so while taking selfies. Go on my man, take as many as you can.

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Can you guys recommend a budget smartphone with a decent camera? I'm currently using a beat up huawei p8 lite, which annoys me because the native camera app compresses the 13mpix photos to 2-3mb files, yet all the third party camera apps are painfully slow and don't offer silent shutter. Thanks in advance

>>3094577
> I came in merely to state that the capability exists
Yes, and I was contesting who was Android and who was akin to a fridge computer with a 3rd party firmware hack-patch, so...

> I love how you seem to not realize that say using zebras in ML is literally using an app.
Since when? Last time I checked it was a firmware feature, not an app. Apps are things end users can install / uninstall / run individually on top of their OS.

> Canon has stepped back and let people rip into their firmware.
They neither provided the firmware code NOR even a license to use their binary firmware in this manner. Nor much documentation.

Meanwhile Sony provided a way to add apps and gave developer interfaces and documentation for what they support.

> What's Sony's historical position on trying to do stuff like that?
That is why Canon / Nikon should give out licenses and documentation for what they want to actually "support", like Sony did.

As-is, they're just reserving the option to fuck with people like this at any time.

> fuck, those asshats at Sony would still make you use their stupid memory sticks if they could get away with it).
Sony and Canon do still try to push special and more expensive storage formats for their high end, don't they?

>>3094585
The newest iphone or samsung (main line series, not the budget versions they toss over to companies like straight talk) you can afford. Buy used, someone out there is always selling newer phones for well below going rate.

>>3094588
>Sony and Canon do still try to push special and more expensive storage formats for their high end, don't they?

/g/ again, I've been out of that whole conversation just for the record. But it's not in high end. 12 years ago, I had a Sony w800i phone and the alpha5100 can finally use that old ass memory stick I had lying around all those years

>>3094585
Maybe a Xiaomi Mi6?

It's not extremely budget-oriented, but then a good camera is probably the feature that is most relevant to why people buy an expensive smartphone. Almost everyone would have enough processing power etc. in a midrange phone.

>>3094593
The A5100 just use regular SD cards.

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>>3094603
it can also use Memory Stick Duos

>pic unrelated, the view out of my window

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Camera Model	ILCE-5100
Camera Software	ILCE-5100 v3.10
Maximum Lens Aperture	f/3.5
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	24 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Orientation	Top, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution	350 dpi
Vertical Resolution	350 dpi
Image Created	2017:06:13 20:01:36
Exposure Time	1/80 sec
F-Number	f/5.6
Exposure Program	Normal Program
ISO Speed Rating	200
Brightness	5.9 EV
Exposure Bias	0 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length	16.00 mm
Color Space Information	sRGB
Image Width	6000
Image Height	4000
Rendering	Normal
Exposure Mode	Auto
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Contrast	Normal
Saturation	Normal
Sharpness	Normal

>>3093675

I'm looking to purchase a tripod

Requirements:
>Carbon fiber
>Twist lock
>Strong
>Can be converted to a monopod

I'm willing to spend some cash if it will get me a better product, but I'd rather not have to spend Gitzo prices.

Any that you would recommend?

>>3094588
My last post on this topic because you've proven yourself to be unreasonable.

>Yes, and I was contesting who was Android and who was akin to a fridge computer with a 3rd party firmware hack-patch, so...
i.e. you moved the goalposts. You decided "shit, you can do this shit on other cameras, gotta go in a different direction"

>Since when? Last time I checked it was a firmware feature, not an app. Apps are things end users can install / uninstall / run individually on top of their OS.
Ah, you're completely ignorant of Camera software architecture and how you can add and remove various apps like zebras to ML. Gotcha.

>They neither provided the firmware code NOR even a license to use their binary firmware in this manner. Nor much documentation.
>Meanwhile Sony provided a way to add apps and gave developer interfaces and documentation for what they support.
Your point? Let's actually get a little technical here since you want to pretend to know something about this: point to any interesting feature made accessible at a low enough level to do something useful with.

>That is why Canon / Nikon should give out licenses and documentation for what they want to actually "support", like Sony did.
You mean define limitations and prevent devs from doing whatever they please?
>As-is, they're just reserving the option to fuck with people like this at any time.
You haven't any clue how2business if you think Canikon are ever going after the firmware guys. They're an out of house r&d group that adds value for free.
>Sony and Canon do still try to push special and more expensive storage formats for their high end, don't they?
...are you talking about CF and Cfast? There's a reason for those formats, which incidentally aren't made only by Sony (or Canon) and stupidly overcharging for it.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-Memory-Card-64GB-PCH-Z641J/dp/B00F27JGVA
vs
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-Performance-Speed-P-SDX256U395-GE/dp/B00WWBCS1Y

>>3094606
I'm a big fan of Vanguard tripods, but

>lot of stuff
>converted to a monopod

I've not shopped for tripods in a while, but that sounds like one of those stupid monopods with feet (or a small tripod leg attachment) thing which are always terrible because they're terribly unstable in the tripod form. You're better off just getting a regular monopod and looking for ways in the field to prop it up if monopod is a big deal to you.

>>3094605
a half decent phone could take a better one

>>3094453
There is someone who made an app for the 5100
https://sony-pmca.appspot.com/apps
It's supposedly improving the camera controls for manual mode.

I don't know if it allows you easier control through touch screen or not, but it's worth trying.
The PMCADemo app also unlock a webbrowser in your camera.

And the Tweak app can unlock recording limit past 30 minutes, and remove the NTSC/PAL nagging screen.

>>3094605
I live in Romania and even I managed to get a better camera from my dead end job.

>also dat blow sky and no DR
Absolutely disgusting

>>3094606
"Carbon tripod" on Aliexpress. They got a good number of these.

I'm happy with my Dic&Mic E302C but from what I heard (unreliably) on the internet it sounds like most Chinese carbon tripods that closely look like it actually are just as fine.

>>3094611
>The PMCADemo app also unlock a webbrowser in your camera
JUST ANOTHER USELESS SHIT WE DON'T NEED IN A CAMERA!

>>3094627
...and the shit chink tripod shill is back.

Don't you have an infant daughter to drown or something?

>>3094607
> i.e. you moved the goalposts. You decided "shit, you can do this shit on other cameras, gotta go in a different direction"
Lotus Esprits aren't underwater cars because someone hacked one to be underwater capable,

My fridge isn't an open server because someone posted a firmware patching hack with FTP support.

And Canon / Nikon cameras aren't open for shit because someone published partial firmware hacks that rely on firmware that neither Canon nor Nikon licensed or documented.

> Ah, you're completely ignorant of Camera software architecture
No, this is just not an app.

> point to any interesting feature made accessible at a low enough level to do something useful with
I already linked the developer docs earlier, they include a rough breakdown what you can do on various camera models and then of course you can also find the detailed features from there.

> You mean define limitations and prevent devs from doing whatever they please?
They allowed and documented a good amount.

Unlike Canon / Nikon that just did not.

> ...are you talking about CF and Cfast
And XQD. Sony isn't blameless either, they all went with some "partnering" to rip off customers on storage.

For that matter, all of them peddle overpriced lithium battery packs and battery grips, flash units and more. Some even make fucking lens hoods a somewhat expensive paid accessory.

> https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-Memory-Card-64GB-PCH-Z641J/dp/B00F27JGVA
Want us to go into much bigger rip-offs of even more hostile Canon DRM ink tanks?

They are at least related to current photography, unlike console storage cards we have no reason whatsoever to care about.

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Stop fighting pls, I will give you something to laugh instead

>babby's first HDR

>>3094629
I have been recommending them multiple times before on the same kind of question, sure, but it surely wasn't always me.

Why would I change my opinion? They're exactly the kind of decent cheap common sense carbon tripods most people want.

>>3094638
This is just sad.

>>3094638
So the exposures were not aligned?

>>3094649
I tried free-hand since I have no tripod yet also I am still reading the software manual

>>3094651
Pretty sure some exposures aren't aligned.

With many pieces of HDR software, the HDR software itself can align your exposures (and then cut off the area not covered by all exposures or such).

But Darktable might not be that functionality yet, or require you to manually trigger the alignment step or such. [Haven't worked much with it.]

>>3094657
in terms of math, "lumia HDR" seems to have the best "just works" algorithms for Linux, but I didn't try much yet.

The exposures aren't aligned because I accidentally moved the camera while switching the exposures. I guess I will get myself a tripod tomorrow and try to do some nice HDRs

From what I'm reading, it looks all like if I want to actually get into photography, I will need to dual-boot Windows

>>3094638
Shit is so underexposed, the bottom half is nicking your shit.

>>3094660
>"lumia HDR" seems to have the best "just works" algorithms for Linux, but I didn't try much yet
I think I saw Photomatix for Linux, and I also remember that you were able to use Hugin:
http://wiki.panotools.org/HDR_workflow_with_hugin#Quick_and_easy_technique

> The exposures aren't aligned because I accidentally moved the camera while switching the exposures.
Of course. But the point was that software generally can align these shots for you.

>From what I'm reading, it looks all like if I want to actually get into photography, I will need to dual-boot Windows
Even if you want windows only tools you can probably just run them in a VM.

>>3094660
You have to spend more time setting stuff up yourself on Linux, that's for sure. You don't have the option to just pay money for something that does it all for you. But it's certainly possible.

You can also try HDRMerge for... HDR, or Rawtherapee for a general RAW processor and editor if you don't care for Darktable. (Both of those are free software and your distro probably packages them)

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We have a new lightweight Champion.

And it's Autofocus as well. thank you based Samyang.

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What's a good upgrade to an aging Sony HX50?

It's given me great mileage for general point and shoot + tripod mounted video. My only complaints with it were video AF sometimes didn't realize that it wasn't focusing on anything. I did like the very simple(maybe too simple) app based remote controls when using the tripod, so I'd like to have that.

I wouldn't mind upgrading to a A6000/6300/6500 but if there's a cheaper fixed lens cam that would be a good replacement, that would be fine too.

>>3094680
Still can't put it in your pocket.
Also my 35mm prime is lighter because no AF motor or aperture motor but still has AF.

>>3094685
>criticizes a lens for not being pocketable when it's part of a system in which no bodies are truly pocketable
>should probably stick with point and shoots

>>3094664

I edit my photos on Linux only. I never tried LR/PS and, in my opinion, Darktable is a decent software, that should be enough for 90% of the "photographers" put there.

(and 100% too much for 100% of the snapshitters out there)

>>3094702
I switched to Windows from Linux 2 years ago just because of LR and I never looked back since

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>>3094705
>>3094702
I'm starting to get along with darktable, yes. It's a quite powerful tool but I still have a lot of docs to read

>>3094711
I hated that I can't simply set white and black points in darktable so all of my photos looked slightly underexposed and muddy no matter what I did to them.
Also stay away from the color fringing remove module, it also robs you part of the palette making the colors look dull. Aftershot 2 Pro doesn't have this problem and this is where I went to windows and got a PS/LR subscription after a brief period of sailing.

>>3094705
>>3094711

Nice raspberries you got over there.


I have noticed that "limiting" yourself in certain ways makes you think helps sharpen your skills.
Work with what you've got and master your tools.

I mostly thaught myself everything by try&error'ing my way to a result im satisfied with.

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>>3094715
When doing photos with my phone and need to edit them, for those "photoshop-like" features, I enjoyed using Krita, even though anon >>3094281 advises against

>>3094680
Oh, shiny. If it's as cheap as indicated, I might get it.

>>3094683
RX100 III - V or A6x00. Personally I'd get one of the latter.

Or perhaps a Panasonic GH85 - someone said their app control was also okay.

>>3094719
Not cheap, it's 40 bucks.

*400 bucks

Hi! I want to buy a new mirrorless camrea and I know more or less what I want (35mm for EDC low light and travels). How unreasonable would it be to:

1. Choose the best fast 35mm or equivalent lens acrpss tje systems and below $1000
2. Add average body to it ?

>>3094725
>>3094726
I saw numbers closer to $300, which is really quite cheap.

>>3094660
>The exposures aren't aligned because I accidentally moved the camera while switching the exposures. I guess I will get myself a tripod tomorrow and try to do some nice HDRs
some things: look how to set bracketing on your camera (pretty sure it'd be supported).
if you don't have a tripod but need tripod consistency, improvise. Set the camera on something stable, use self timer mode. If the only place you can get it steady is a little cockeyed, don't worry about it and crop in post. A successful lower resolution shot is far better than a failed shot.
Finally, if you're doing any kind of stacking, try to avoid scenes with movement (unless motion blur/stop motion is something you're going for). There's a good chance that those clouds moved enough between frames to where there was no way to get a good stack without going and cutting individual clouds out and having to straight up composite the shot.

>>3094727
Not terribly unreasonable, but you're probably overall better off in low light in particular with an A7S II and a f/1.8 than with a A7 II and a f/0.95.

Basically once you go into actual low light territory, using an A7S body is often cheaper and comes with less compromises than just trying to get very fast lenses.

On the other hand, I'd prefer the better lens in other situations.

>>3094731
It's on preorder for 400. But I have no doubt it will eventually drop to 300 after a few weeks.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on the a6000. I'm traveling right now with a canon 6d and 24-70 lens. It's a fucking bitch to carry but the quality of photos for me is good. Honestly just looking for something that is light and small but takes decent quality pics all round

>>3094740
Get a high end point and shoot. You'll be able to cover your preferred focal range and it'll be significantly smaller, unlike trying to put a 24-70 (or 18-55ish) on an a6000

>>3094740
Lumix GX85

>>3094740
Lightweight, pretty capable PDAF and CDAF, sensor close to as good as it gets for APS-C, good smartphone app (you can easily get the images to your smartphone or use it as remote trigger). Easy to use with MF lenses, adapted or not.

Very good prime lenses, overall less interesting zoom lenses as compared to Canon or Nikon.

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I'm in the market for a new camera as a super casual hobbyist type.

I am thinking of getting a E-M10 II

I only have a really old rebel 1000D that I barely used, then wanted to get back into things last year but by then it was so old I had no desire to use it.

Is m43 a meme? Should I just get a DSLR in the same price range

>>3094756
> I am thinking of getting a E-M10 II
Really pretty decent camera.

> Is m43 a meme?
It's a smaller sensor size than APS-C and FF. Comes with the some advantages and some disadvantages.

> Should I just get a DSLR in the same price range
You could also do that, but even for APS-C and FF there are mirrorless cameras. For the latter it's still just the Sonys that have been gaining a lot of traction in the camera market.

>>3094747
Whats the advantage over the a6000?

>>3094769
Smaller and better video. Also has better camera control and workflow. It is just nicer to use.

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>>3094771
Smaller sensors come at a cost though.

>>3094777
Not the kind of cost that is noticable in everyday usage though.

>>3094777
Lol, that image is clearly not biased. This kind of devious bullshit is why most of /p/ hates sonyggers.

>>3094785
>biased
>devious bullshit
What?

>>3094789
The top image with the sony was made with a prime, the bottom image with the Lumix was made with the kit zoom lens. Primes generally have much sharper images than zooms. Not to mention the prime was stopped down considerably improving the image more while the kit zoom was wide open at it's worst performance.
Also notice how the reflections come off from the shiny surfaces, you can see the angles are not the same. The maker of this image clearly worked hard to make the top image the best possible and the bottom image the worst possible. Typical cheating double standard bullshit of a sonygger.

>>3094795
The image is from a Fuji fan though...

>Also notice how the reflections come off from the shiny surfaces
You can just ignore that, and look at the Wood. the m4/3 sensor lose so much detail in the wood grain.

>>3094795
You're a retarded asshat. I didn't post that and know that's an example of sensor noise, not a comparison of sharpness.

>>3094797
>>3094799
>grasping at straws so hard

A6300 vs theA6000

>>3094819
6300 hands down.

>>3094819
just kill yourself already

>>3094057
X100t

>>3094143
Alrighty, I guess it's time to put an ebay search alert up. Thanks much.

I found an a7ii with kit lens for $400 CAD off

should I jump on it or wait for the a7iii for a drop in price on the ii

mostly want it for ISIS on my old film glass

>>3094961
A7iii is going to be really good, like a mini A9.

It won't be cheap though. My worst case fear is it could be 3000 dollars, on par with A7Rii and A99ii at launch.

>>3094961
IBIS*

>>3094963

Betting around $1,800 for the body, $2,150 with kit lens.

Thankfully the a7ii should drop like a rock in price.

I hope it comes with a new updated kit lens. Something like a 35-70 f4 would be great.

>>3094971
>$1,800 for the body
The sensor is tipple layered, using the most advanced process they have for CMOS/DRAM.

I would guess it will be about 2400 USD.

>>3094461
As you're new, look at sony mirrorless, the evf gives an exact exposure preview and is much larger than the viewfinder in a dslr, which is physically limited in size. So it will be very quick and easy to get the photos you want faster.

Don't worry about theft/damage, that's why you get insurance.

>>3094540
Shutup you dildo, the a5k series are perfect for people who want something similar to their phone, but much higher quality. The image quality is out of this world for the price they go for, it's the same sensor as in the $2k fuji xt2, and they have all the functionality of an a6300, just slightly slower autofocus and no viewfinder.

>>3094819
6300 if you ever plan on using autofocus or adapting canon glass. A 2nd hand a7ii makes even more sense though.

>>3094795
Even if the glass was identical, the sony picture would still be twice as sharp, on ff it would be 4 times as sharp.

Small sensors are a false economy, unless you like seeing lens softness.

>>3095051
>assblasted this badly

>>3094057

At the same situation myself, thinking of purchasing the X-T1 used.

>>3094057
Watch Top Gear Vietnam special, you will definitely need weather sealing.
I would just use my Pentax with a WR kit lens, bretty cheap option and leaves budget for better package management, but let's stay in your predefined limits.
The weather sealing narrows down the options a lot, X-T1/T2, E-M1/M1MkII, G85 and A6300 comes to my mind, but you will also need WR lens. Wide angle, so 28-35mm equivalent.
I am not very knowledgable in those systems, I suggest looking into the lens options and then decide the system for the more feasible lenses. I personally would go for a standard zoom since that covers most of the bases and I found myself limited with a prime lens during travel a bit earlier.
Also when travelling, you better focus more on the travels, food, pretty places and having fun. If you can't get a good shot, don't worry about it and just photograph with your eyes and just plain enjoy being there.
Cheers.

>>3094057

The a6000 is half the price of most things you listed.

Not weatherproof (nothing on your list is), but it meets all your other requirements.

Best sensor of the whole lot too. And while the kit lens might not be L quality, it is pretty damn solid considering how small it is. You wont equal or beat the image quality of the a6000 while still being as compact as it is.

>>3095104
>nothing on your list is
Pana GH is weatherproof

>>3095088
>m43 fags on ebay watch

>>3095107
just stop, you are only embarassing yourself, poopco

>>3095109
All I see is yet another anon rejecting the notion that sony offer the best products but failed to offer any meaningful counterargument, I had heard this was a popular trend and now I've seen it for myself it's cemented how obviously worthless anons opinion is, I'm going to go ahead and buy the sony.

>>3095123

Do whatever you want you stupid, faggot, cuck loser
Seriously what kind of dumbass faggot dickhead buys anything sony

1500$ for a used x-t1 with handle and xf 23 1.4 + xf 18-135 worth it?

>>3095104
>And while the kit lens might not be L quality,
Look, any of their APS-C Lenses s u c k. If you want some quality glass, you'll have to look at full frame glass, (FE E-mount) sony was like. Alternatively you have Sigma DN lenses which i heard are Okay.

Sony's 16-55 kit lens, while kit, is pretty okay quality tho. and it's fucking pancake lens tier which is amazing for compactness

>>3095124
The beauty of /p/ is i can't tell if this is a shitpost or an actual thought process of someone on /p/

>>3095124
You are not helping either, idiot!

>>3095126
>The beauty of /p/ is i can't tell if this is a shitpost or an actual thought process of someone on /p/

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Sony are shit mate just look at how shit they are

>>3093768
bump

>>3095126
> Look, any of their APS-C Lenses s u c k.
They're mostly very normal by APS-C standards, with a few good ones.

Of course FF looks better, but that is not news. APS-C also performs better than MFT and 1".

> Sigma DN lenses
The newer 30mm and the 60mm are basically as good as it gets on APS-C.

When is the 6D Mark ii supposed to hit? I want to get a 6D but want to wait for a price drop if it's going to happen soon

>>3095153

>Sigma DN lenses

Can confirm. I've got the 30mm one myself. The only lens I use when going out.

I just bought a Canon EOS 1300D, I'm charging the battery for about 3 hours and still hasn't finished charging.

Am I fucked?

>>3095196
just get a new battery

>>3095197
I bought another one as well but I haven't tried it yet.

I'll wait a few longer and see. Thanks anon.

>>3095196
>>3095199
Ok now the "charge" led just started blinking. Let's see.

>>3095201
It could've been almost flat out depleted, needs a fair bit of time to be revived and then charged.

>>3095203
I tried the camera a little bit before removing the battery and starting charging it, and it seemed to work fine.

I'll wait for the green light. Fingers crossed.

I mainly shoot on at events, conventions and general walk around downtown. Thinking on selling my canon 600D + 24-70 2.8 and picking up one of these (used prices):
Fuji X100t for $600
Fuji X-pro1 + 35mm 1.4 for $700

What would /p/ recommend? should i also look at the sony a6000?
I know they're better and newer cameras out there but my budget is limited. I would like to stay around or below 700 with body and lens.

>>3095217

Avoid the 35mm f1.4, it is a terrible, terrible lens. AF is super slow, and it is stupid soft until f/4. I also found the X-pro1 hybrid viewfinder to be just terrible. The AF is quite meh too.

Fuji makes a decent walk around kit, but there isn't much room to upgrade.

a6000 is certainly worth a look. Better sensor and viewfinder than the x-pro1, but it is getting old. My bff just bought one and it has been quite impressive. Not many budget crop lenses available, but there are some pretty solid FF primes for a decent price.

>>3095205
In case that may help someone (I don't think so, but whatever). The charging light was still blinking, I disconnected the charger from the electricity, plugged it in again and shortly ir turned to green light, fully charged.

Hopefully it will work fine from now on.

>>3095221
I've got a xe2 which is old as fuck but it's got the updates making identical in function to xt10. I got it with the excellent kit lens 18-55 for about 400 euros second hand. Try and look out for it or xt10. I shoot some street stuff and I've had no difficulty with af. The 23mm f2 and the 35mm f2 are both considered excellent lenses.

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I got all that stuff for 300€

-Nikon D80
-Tamron AF 70-300mm (1:4-5.6)
-Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm 1:1.8 D
-(Flash) amity 932tcz
-BEWETAR 49 ES R1.5 1x (correction filter)
-A tripod
-These 2 bags that you can see in the pic

I'm obv a beginner to photography and the camera is really fun to use in my Opinion. I'm just
curious if i got ripped or if i could sell it for more

Thanks in advance

Also what kind of camera is the D80?
What are the pros and cons? Idc about newer ones, my budget is 300€ and this was all i got

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>>3093675
Hello /p/gear/
/g/ here
The moon has been looking nice and I was wondering if a hand camera would be capable of taking good quality images of the moon's face.
Obviously I'm not sure if you even can, but if you can what kinda camera and lens would you need?
Or should I just get an electronic telescope and my laptop to the forest.
Thanks

Nikon D3300 vs Nikon D5300?

>>3095291
You need a tripod. Get them cheap from aliexpress, the ones that cost 80~100 bucks are the best value.
Sometimes you can even get a tripod made of carbon fiber at that price, but if you can't, the alluminium ones are perfect already.

Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cGbbSx-Mug

>>3095295
>Northrup
Not even once.
>>3095291
Look up Pentax astrotracer, be amazed.

>>3095297
Tony is awesome though.

Pentax? Not so much. Too many shills who recommend overpriced rebranded Tamron lenses.

>>3095298
Literally cancer

>>3095295
I'm confused.
It seems you are memeing ironically, but you give me a real video to watch.

>>3095305
There is nothing but good advice in my post and that video though.

Why the confusion?

>>3095306
Oh, the irony!

>>3095306
Well, the guy just said in the beginning you don't need a tripod
And what difference would a carbon fiber one do than a normal aluminium/plastic tripod.
I just feel rused, is all.

>>3095292
Same sensor, 5300 has a flippy screen and more software features (like bracketing). If that's worth the extra price is up to you.

>>3095291
Tripod and a 300mm (on crop) and you can easily get some great shots.

>>3095308
He's right, but having your camera on tripod makes the images better.

>And what difference would a carbon fiber one do than a normal aluminium/plastic tripod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9S9jZW3Jxc

>>3095310
Old Digitalrev truly was the Top Gear of photography.

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>(SR5) A7III specs confirmed and it has the A9 joystick too
>Its on the roadmap after 135mm and 400mm
2017 is the year of Sony.
– First source said it hs “Same Sony A9 autofocus system without the 20fps feature”. Second source said it’s “improved AF system”. Hope they mean both the same thing.
– Touch Screen
– Joystick control

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>>3095217
I'd say, take a look at the Panasonic LX100. Small, discreet, fast af, fast lens with a nice range, good battery life, good video and a great UI/UX made for enthusiasts. IQ is fairly good as well, though only 12Mpx, but that should be enough if know what you're doing. The evf is kind of crap, but gets the job done. I got mine for 500€ used a while ago.

X100t is good but has very limiting fov. X-Pro 1 is too old and sluggish to be any fun and doesn't want to focus the 35/1.4. Don't listen to faggots like >>3095221, 35/1.4 is a good lens and focuses fast enough on the better bodies like the x-t1, but the new 35/2 is much better. Fast af and sharp as all fuck. The cheaper bodies like the x-e2 could be worth a look, but in all honesty, Fuji is an expensive system to get into, I would not recommend if your budget is limited.

a6000 has a good sensor, but I find the terrible UI/UX extremely off putting, and the e-mount lens ecosystem is going nowhere. You could get it with the cheap sigma trio and stay in your budget, but try it out first. I've had the 30/2.8 sigma and it was sort of disgusting to use. It felt like it could break any time.

Then again, you could sell just your 600D and get something a bit more fresh. There is no point changing systems just because.

>>3095310
I appreciate your help, but I remember watching this total asshat awhile ago while he was talking about some high-end old camera, a laica or so, and he seemed like a real snob about it.
But really, who is going to shake their camera like that at 2:55 to take pictures.

>>3095318
>But really, who is going to shake their camera like that at 2:55 to take pictures.
He game it a few pushes. Probably to simulate the wind and shit.

Those shit tripods can be had for 12 dollars on aliexpress. Feel free to buy one and try it out.

>>3095321
Hmm, probably, but I'll be in the forest. I could just stick it inside the Earth.

>>3095322
Go for it. 12 dollars, free shipping. It will be a good lessen and experience whether it fails or not.

>>3095322
Get a beanbag

r8 my recent cops boys
second hand gh2 with 3 batteries, 2 vintage lenses and a new in box canon fd 50mm 1.4 prime lens for £300

>>3095318
>But really, who is going to shake their camera like that at 2:55 to take pictures.
You. The environment. Something else.

Extremely cheap full size tripods are trash, spend $60+ on a decent one.

>>3095318
Find a cheap used aluminium manfrotto befree, best light compact tripod option there is.

>>3095317
What would you think about the Fuji x70 vs the LX100?

>>3094267
>>3094271
>>3094276
>>3094282
>>3094286

I was about to settle for the A5000 since it seems to be the best in its range of price, but this is making me question my choice.

According to the comparison between the two on snapsort, the M10 has a better AF and screen while the A5000 has a better quality and battery life.

I would value image quality and battery life above screen quality. Not sure about the AF.

Care to explain a little more in detail why the M10 would be a better choice ?

>>3095457
The comparison is simple, both has a capable sensor.
The difference is the camera controls, the M10 is designed as a camera, designed for a photographer. The A5000 is designed with the least camera and photography to be present when used. It is a casuals pleb camera.
If you want Sony don't go lower than the A6000, even that is still a bit strange to hold and use compared to the more traditional control UI of the M10.

What's a good flash I can get for my canon ae-1 for doing a photoshoot in the dark at night?

I'll be using acros and ilford but I've never dealt with flashes before+black and white film. Something strong but not overpowering would be ideal.

>>3095453
Both are fun to use. Fuji has an edge in the smaller size and low light capability, but it only has 28mm eqv. field of view, which I find to be the bastard middle child between 24 and 35, i.e. boring. If you like the field of view of your phone, it's probably ok, but at that point I'd go with the Ricoh GR, which is older but has actually better lens IQ than fuji... LX100 goes from 24-70, very useful range. My advice is to actually get a hold of them before you buy and try everything out.

>>3095342
sounds like a success anon!

>>3095457
A6000 is the better choice. Don't bother with the M10 or A5000, both of these are odd.

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>>3095532

Ok so i found this lot. I guess these were made specifically for the A1 and Ae-1, is it worth getting a bunch of these? I really don't know what exactly.

Also should I be getting a tripod for a shoot, especially one where I'm going to be in it as well, figured it'd work well with the self timer

someone please talk me out of buying a sony a9. i have more than enough money for one and have an irrational desire to own one, but i also feel that i don't need one and that i could put the money to better use

>>3095604
$4500 flies you anywhere in the world to take pictures with your (presumably) already great camera. and it is more fun than waiting for the ups man.

>>3095317
>e-mount lens ecosystem is going nowhere
>has more 3rd party support than any other brand, sony release more lenses every year than every other oem, has been heavily adopted by videographers all the way through the industry.

>>3095461
So the camera controls make it difficult to tweak settings and take proper pictures on the A5000?
I had a similar usability issue on my compact (Canon Ixus 220 HS); tweaking anything required me to go in endless menus to change the ISO settings, white balance etc.

>>3095559
Sadly, here the A6000 is nowhere near the price of the A5000. I can get the A5000 with a (shitty) zoom lens (plus a bag and a SD card) for 370 euros (finding it without a lens is almost impossible and more expensive duh), while the A6000 is 600 euros with the same zoom (or 485 euros with no lens).
Is the M10 odd to use as well?

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I just copped a yashica tl super from goodwill this morning, but the film advance is jammed. How do I fix it?

Im a total film noob (If it wasnt obvious from me shopping at fucking goodwill for a camera)

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>>3095604

a7iii will come out in November.

Gonna be cheaper, and aimed more at normal photography.

Use the money you save on dank GM lenses.

>>3095627
Menu diving on sony cameras is only an issue until you setup your custom buttons. However the a5k range have far fewer buttons and dials than better models.

If you saved up a little more you could get an original sony a7 second hand, full frame sensor, triple dials (iso, ss and aperture), 9 custom buttons, quick function menu. It has all the usability a guy could dream of.

On the a5k I think you have 6 buttons you can set custom and one dial, not ideal, but iso, aperture and ss are only a click and a dial turn.

The canon has no buttons or dials, it's all touchscreen, which means it doesn't really work at all in drizzle. And you can't do jack shit with the controls just using your fingers, you've gotta stare and prod at the screen to change even the most basic stuff.

Think of the canon as a smartphone with a fancy lens mount.

>>3095604

You could hire me (freshly graduated from a master of journo with photog and video skills) to do whatever you like.

>Doesn't have to be camera related

Essentially, I'm looking for money and some kind of work. If you have "more than enough", how about using it to make two people happy? You get talked out of buying the a9, I get a gig, you get something out of the deal.

>Sounds p sweet to me

>>3095627
The M10 has proper camera controls, much much less menu diving than in the A6000 let alone the A5000.

>>3095666
It literally has a touch screen and a shutter button, you need to menu dive a touchscreen to do anything.

No psam dial, no dials at all.

Look at both in a store, and remember, every button on sony can be remapped, nothing on canon can be changed, you have to menu dive a touchscreen just to change shooting mode or aperture.

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>>3095666

>proper camera controls
>less menu diving

What the fuck?

People just lie about shit now?

>>3095669
Not a real camera control UI. If you ever held and used a proper camera you would know.

>>3095620
>has more 3rd party support than any other brand
Gee, I wonder why. Though bunch of medicore mf primes all on the same focal lenghts is hardly a comprehensive system.
>sony release more lenses every year than every other oem
Gee, I wonder why. (a hint: their system is still lacking, whereas other systems are already mature) Not much action in the aps-c department tho. A whole bunch of uninteresting zooms, all in the same range, some essential primes luckily.
>has been heavily adopted by videographers all the way through the industry
Has literally nothing to do with the topic of aps-c stills photography lens ecosystem.

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>>3095672
Maybe he confused the m10 for olympus e-m10? I know I did. That is much more user friendly camera. I've never even heard of canon m10 before.

>>3095683
It is the M2 western/EU release. Basically an improved AF M1
With that said while it is a rebel without a viewfinder, the controls are quite comfy compared to the A5k. My friends gf got one and it took me 2 minutes to figure out how to set the exposure right, she only used it in auto.

>>3095627
>Sadly, here the A6000 is nowhere near the price of the A5000.
Do you have really high import fees, or why can't you just import one from like GB for ~400 Eur?

> Is the M10 odd to use as well?
Yes, both are odd. The M10 has very few buttons / wheels, small buffer if you shoot RAW (this camera is only not annoying if you shoot JPEG), shorter battery life.

Sony DT 18-70mm 1:3.5-5.6
VS
Sony 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 SAM II


Both are the same price for me which would be more worth it