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>Old Thread >>3050955
>This is the Film General Thread: "Half-frame" Edition.
>This is a place to post about anything film related. Processing, scanning, developing, gear, etc is all fair game. Let's fill this thread with images so please include an image with your post.
>Have fun! Remember, there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
>Any post without an image attached should be ignored because the poster is obviously incompetent.

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Threadly reminder that HP5 is shit!
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
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>>3055010

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>>3055014
it's a great film that even Sugar could get good results from
if you get shit results from it, you are probably a shit photographer
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How much should I pay for a brand new GW690iii
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>>3055047
How much is it selling for?
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Is Fuji C200 good?
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Why is Kodak Ultra Max such garbage?
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>>3055059
Hah I was just gonna talk about some thing involving C200.
I have a few examples of C200 because it's the one I use to test shit gear since it's the cheapest around here.

This one was through a nikkor 50 1.8

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>>3055062
Forgot to mention, that and this one are labscans.
Same lens here.

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>>3055063
>>3055062

I really like how those look. I'm gonna buy some c200 to take on vacation with me next month
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>>3055063
And what I was gonna ask here.

So I got a konica pop, turned out to be fun to shot with, I expected it to have light leaks but wanted to check what was needed.
This kind of leak is common from where the film spools in, right? where the door hinge is.

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>>3055067
Doesn't show up every frame, or at least as strongly, though.

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Tried two new (to me) methods to scan with the dslr.
Here I put a plastic foil as a diffuse foil (just a translucent plastic from a soft folder) over my smartphone, then grabbed two rolls of tape, put one over the phone, then placed the film and had it stay flat and in place by putting the other roll on top of it, with paper in between film and tape rolls so that it doesn't leave shit on it.
Anyway, it's nice that it leaves the whole film area exposed and there's no pickles and no plastic or paper "noise" showing.
It doesn't for those frames at the edges of the strips though, sucks.
Had a hard time focusing too, got it wrong in the end and gave up.

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>>3055078

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>>3055079
Directly over the foil is as usual the easiest and fastest.
That said, this plastic wasn't as nice, you can see it as "noise" on the film.

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So what's the deal with rangefinders?
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>>3055083
they are best waifus.
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>>3055086

how about medium format range finders?
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Hey /p/. I recently took an interest in photography after shooting with my parent's camera during summer vacation (I'm still in high school). I recently bought an Olympus Trip 35 because I like film photography and want to start from basics.
What are your shooting tips? It's a pretty simple camera, so I was thinking of bringing with me wherever I go to snap cool shots as I see them. I was planning on making a little "High School" series of photographs sort of chronicling the experience before I graduate.
Also, I shot a few rolls, and although some were good, a lot of pictures were blurry, even though I checked the focus ring. Any suggestions for that?

Anyways, thanks for the help, any input is greatly appreciated?
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whats the point of c-41 b&w?
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>>3055090
You can get it developed everywhere and for cheap since c41 became sort of the standard, the labs will already have a machine that does c41 automatically, from walmart to the old guy in town with a lab.
If I ask my lab to dev c41 I can have it fast (next day, remember when it only took like an hour back in the day?) and with consistent results.
If for some reason I can't develop normal b&w myself, the guy at the lab will do it, but by hand too, but he's busy and will do batches of b&w if possible. So it takes longer, depends on his method, etc.
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>>3055095
ok, I suppose that is a good enough reason. Does your walmart do C-41? I went to walgreens because I thought they still did it but they told me they ship it out.

after checking some of these dev prices (6.50) plus pic related i'm thinking of getting my own chems and scanner
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Can anyone recommend me some good gear to get into medium format?

Budget is around $500 AUD for a camera.
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>>3055099
TLR, rangefinder?
Automatic/manual?
Fixed lens or are interchangeable lenses a must?
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/p/ n00b,

whats the best value point and shoot 35mm film camera?

I just want something for my summer vacation to italy (so hopefully something that will do well outdoors in broad daylight) and that will hopefully get me into film.

Otherwise, would it be better to just spend the money and go for a SLR film camera with interchangeable lenses?
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>>3055101

how much are you willing to spend?
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>>3055103
up to $100. I'm hoping that's reasonable for an entry level camera.
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>>3055101
trip 35
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>>3055087
You dont want these. Depth of field is really an issue on MF and needs to be properly controlled
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>>3055101
Mju-ii? I'm pretty satisfied with mine even after doing all sorts of film for several years
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>>3055113
Depth of field is a joke anyway just go f11 or higher then just zone focus.
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>>3055120
>>3055113
I shoot MF rangefinders and due to my style of photography I rarely go lower than f5.6, so depth of field isn't really a main priority. So it depends on the individuals needs, if he shoots portraits then sure but otherwise it's not a deciding factor.
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>>3055120
Implying you have enough of light to go over f11all the time
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>>3055126
I live in Australia so I literally do
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>>3055014
thats my every day tape why is it shit ? I personally think its great
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>>3055099
you can prolly find some Mamiyas/Rollei's for around that price if you shop around.

I shoot primarily on a Mamiya RZ67, which isn't the most portable/practical due to its size, but it suits me just fine
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>>3055126
>tfw member of Group f/64
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>>3055089
With your shutter speed. May be causing your blurriness.

>>3055101
There are so many top 10 35mm point and shoot lists on the internet. Go read a few and pick one that sounds nice. I'd I were you, I'd bump my budget a bit and get a mju ii. It's a camera you'd keep around even if you later get an SLR.

>>3055113
Wtf are you even talking about? How does an SLR control DOF better than a rangefinder? Lrn2hyperfocal...which is what you should be doing even on an SLR.
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Hey, recently got a Canon F-1 New from ebay, for pretty cheap, and after cleaning it's looking pretty good.

My only problem is that it has the data back for the door cover, and I hate how bulky it is.

Does anyone know anywhere to buy old spare parts for cameras online (that hopefully isn't Ebay)?
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>>3055099
>>3055100
>>3055136
How about a mamiya 645 with 80mm f2.8 for $380 AUD?
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>>3055165
literally depends on what you want to use it for but mamiya medium format cameras are pretty solid in general
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>>3055143

Ebay or Keh.

You will have better luck with Ebay honestly.
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>>3055099
Yashica Mat 124G

also usable to pick up girls with.
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>>3055143
Ebay, Japanese sellers especially.

>Camera, poor quality ++.
>Priced low as dicks
>Giant package
>12 layers of protection
>Receive brand new camera in box with plastic seals on it.
>Tiny imperceptible scratch on the body.
>Handwritten note in full on English that talks about the scratch.

Focking Japs.
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Dumping film snapshits

FP4+

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>>3055201
Tri X

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>>3055202
FP4+

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>>3055203
Tri X

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Tri X

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>>3055205
Tri X

C&C my snapshits please

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>>3055206
I'll chuck in some medium format as well

FP4+

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>>3055207
HP5+ at ASA 1600

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>>3055208
Pan F

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>>3055209
FP4+

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>>3055210
Last one

FP4+
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>>3055211
>forgot pic

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>>3055210
>>3055207
super nice

>>3055206
>>3055202

cool

the rest dont give me anything special
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Anyone been to Stockholm? Is it worth bringing a wide angle?
Ordered some Portra for the trip.

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>>3055101
yeah rangefinders like a trip 35 are gonna do you good
Personal recommendation would be a Canonet QL 19, nice little rangefinder that is not as much as the ql17 but pretty much as good
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>>3055206

Is that a picture of your dick?
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>>3055262
Yes, just testing a minolta point & shoot i picked up for $2
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Ok /p/ I've recently gotten into film photography and still learning. In regards to pushing film why am I not able to find how long you are supposed to compensate for in developing times?
Everywhere I look it's just "tell your lab".
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>>3055269
C41 or B&W?
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>>3055269
for BW film developing times depend on the temperature. There's a nice app available that gives good developing times for pushing. Also take a look at http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php
I can only tell for the Tetenal kit for color development and you have to increase the development time (at 38°C) by 30s per stop.
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XP2

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>>3055275
10 years old Konica Centuria 400 that was stored at room temperature.

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>>3055276
Another XP2

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>>3055277
Konica Centuria 400. Harsh C&C is allowed

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>>3055010
hello board, i got a yashica mat 124 G froma a relative, how would you go about cleaning it up? Is cleaning alcohol a good choice?
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>>3055016
mhhhh i like
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>>3055284
Buy liquid especially for cleaning lenses/cameras. Lens elements have coatings that may be damaged by alcohol.

Also you can permanently damage the Mat 124g by fucking around with the flash sync settings, so leave it on whatever setting it's on now and never touch it again (you probably won't ever need to change it anyway). If you wanna use the camera and it's been sitting for a while, I'd say take it to a (good) camera repairman and have them do a CLA on it
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>>3055281
Why is SakuraColor so based?
Can you imagine how nice this would be if you'd held the fucking camera still (and composed a worthwhile photo too, I guess)?
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>>3055199
This.
Almost all of my serious cameras have been from jap ebayers.
Shows up mega quick, wrapped nicely, always in surprisingly good condition.
Nothing like Chinese ebays at all.
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>>3055210
>>3055210
Now this is a photograph.
>>3055207
What lense is this? Very rare not so see vomit inducing astigmatism in the foreground bokeh of a 6x6 shot.
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>>3055288
>CLA
I am not sure that i will find anyone that does this in my area (i am in south italy)
as for the proper liquid, is the shit on amazon any good? Like i see there is some rollei liquid for lenses and one for sensors, i guess the one for the lenses is ok but i mean the one for dslr is anything good?
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>>3055288
nontheless thank you so much for the help
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>>3055299
Yeah anything for lenses will be perfect. If it's just dusty a good wipe down with a microfibre cloth would be fine.

And if the camera seems to be working fine then there's no need to have it CLA'd. No harm in running a test roll through it to see if it's working properly
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>>3055302
ok, great, thank you so much again, will try that.
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>>3055289
Reason why most of the Centuria photos are just snapshits is because I didn't believe that some of the shots would turn out so good.
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Just finished my first roll with the Canon P.

Shot it pretty quickly since I had an inkling that the rangefinder was off, but I was wrong.

Anyway, this camera is terrific and the Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM lens is tack sharp.

I'll post 6 or so photos from the roll. Film is Acros 100, overexposed thanks to my generous use of the sunny 16 rule

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>>3055325
The 1:1 viewfinder is amazing, even though the rangefinder patch is super dim

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>>3055327

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>>3055289
This is a terrible picture. What's the point in having it? Why should anyone look at it? There is nothing interesting about it. Not in its composition, nor in its subject matter. I would get more out of just watching the street next to me. The only potentially interesting thing would have been the stop lights, but the color is so terrible--everything is red and magenta. A forgettable, and regrettable, picture
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>>3055328

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>>3055330
annnndd that's it

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>>3055271
>>3055273

I probably should have specified, meant c41.
But thanks I'll check that out.
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Is half-frame a meme?
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Ill post a few of mine, took a long break because nothing too terribly interesting around me, and my camera is fairly limited (can't astro photography my REAL interest, can macro etc)

Rollei 3.5
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>>3055449

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>>3055451
dat light leak...

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>>3055453
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>>3055455
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>>3055456
Some E6
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>>3055457
This is about as close as I can get to stuff if I remember right, the closest focus distance is like 3 feet if I remember right, I wish I could do stuff like >>3055275 but there's just no way.

Maybe one day I'll invest in a decent enough DSLR and can do the that really gets my jimmies going.
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How do you guys store powder chems? I want to start buying 5 litres of ID-11 instead of 1 litre because it's only a few quid more. Want to get some nice air tight bottles to replace the much reused old bottles of Ilfosol 3 and fix I have been using because the seals on them go eventually.

I'd rather go plastic than glass so I can squeeze air out without having to use marbles. What are you folks using? HDPE? PET? Old coke bottles? I thought maybe a scientific outlet might be a reasonable shout but I'm coming up blank lads.

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>>3055449
What the fuck was used to compress this jpg? It's fuck hueg and the resolution looks like something out of a mid '90's Mavica.
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>>3055469
not a fucking clue, sent it out to Springfield MO to get developed. Never tried my hand at developing and I thought learning how to get proper exposures and learning how to develop probably wouldn't be the best to do at the same time, one step at a time.

The original is a 9.45MB BMP file, looks much more pastel.
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>>3055471
No, no no. I mean what did you use to convert/resize this from the original? Something isn't right.
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>>3055472
I didnt, that's literally the file that came on the disk they gave me. I just had them develop the film and put it on a disk. I just copy pastad the pics off the disk.
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Sup.
So I went through my grandma's stuff and found this. Found some expired film and some old bulbs on ebay, fixed it up and took a few pictures. How I'll develop them I haven't figured out yet.

Anyway I'm a DSLR person, but finding this thing, fixing it up and using it has triggered something of a film bug I need to satisfy. I want a film camera.

After some research, I think what I'd like is a fully mechanical SLR. Like a Pentax MX or a Canon FTB. Anyone have any experience with '70s era SLRs?

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>tfw all I recently shot is tons of bokeh cat pictures.

Ektar 100, 50/1.4

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>>3055455
Ayyyyy MSU. I always thought that statue creeped me out. Not sure why. Also FTFY.

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>>3055476
pentax lx and mx is the best slrs you can get, short of the nikon f stuff
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>>3055479
that shit is beautiful desu.
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>>3055496

Well, apparently the MX is what the kid in Stranger Things has so there's a bit of a cool factor too. Thanks!
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>>3055014

>tfw this is literally in my camera right now ;_;

what should i use then?? tri-x?
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>>3055205

>taking a picture of someone entering their PIN
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>>3055295
Original Seiko 50mm for the RB67, apart from minor barrel distortion, it's a very impressive lens
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>>3055281
This has a red tint over it that I find gorgeous.
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I'm going on an 2 week excursion to Asia; what color 35mm stocks besides portra/ektar should I bring?
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>>3055441
Of course it is.
The real question is to ask yourself "do I like memes?"
If you're posting on this particular Bangladeshi geocaching group chat, I think we know the answer.
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>>3055483
Graduated in 11. Good times

Twice while I was there, people made large bowling pins to put out in front of that statue, the definition of funny.
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>>3055479

All I take is bokeh pics of my gf.

She hates it when I do now.

And I can't get half of them developed because nekkid.
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Kodak Ektar 100 120 Pentax 645 45mm

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Kodak Ektar 100 120 Pentax 645 45mm

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>>3055608
>>3055609
those are preeeeeety ^_^
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is a 3000dpi scanner good enough? there seem to be a lot in the 2500-3000 range for cheap, is it worth it to spend more for more dots?
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>>3055622
I use an Epson V550, 3200dpi can leave some pixelation when zoomed in, while 6400 and up is completely smooth.
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Why is film in Australia so god damn bloody expensive ($16 for 135/36 Ilford hp5+)
Anyone know anywhere I can get film real cheap?
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>>3055641

>tfw no v800

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>>3055654


It is 1010円 in Japan.
You are paying almost double.
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New to film and photography in general, tear me a new one /p/als.

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>>3055668
>$12.30 is almost half of $16
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A friend of mine who has no affilitation with photography stated that film is better than digishit because its resolution is infinite.

Is this true? Is digishit a meme?
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>>3055683
He is right
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king's college of the philippines, try to breach all the data's in every department.
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Anyone have any recs for places to pick up a contax t2 or t3 in tokyo?
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>>3055479
Purrfect

What scanner do you use?
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>>3055682

It is $9 actually.
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>>3055609
>>3055608
ooof.. whenever I see MF shots I have to wonder whether the shot is great because of the camera, or whether the photographer would have been able to get much the same look with any old camera.
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>>3055608
>>3055609
very nice my guy
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>>3055607
Just do it.
>>3055698
Plustek 8200i

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>>3055700
>>3055682
>>3055668
Sooo are there any online Japanese stores that ship to Australia?
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>>3055713
use bh photo or ebay m8
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>>3055582
That's all you need.

>>3055608
Wish you had timed it to get his face.

>>3055609
P nice! Weird colors for ektar tho.

>>3055622
Advertised dpi doesn't equal actual dpi. >>3055641's
scanner for instance actually maxes out ~1400dpi

>>3055678
It's a photo of nothing.

>>3055683
He's a retard.

>>3055693
Get ready to pay some big ¥¥¥ wherever you wind up going.

>>3055713
Me, what do you want? If you don't want to trust some random anon, look into Yodobashi.
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>>3055061
What makes you say that? I've had some great results with it
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>>3055721
Not him, but it's the worst color film I've ever used, and I've used a lot. Crazy big grain, gross blues, and it's not even that cheap really.
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>>3055723
I got a few rolls on amazon for $4 each. I didn't think it was all that bad for the price

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>>3055729
I thought it pushed well in low light too

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someone give me a quick rundown on the epson v line?
looking to spend as little as possible but not entirely to the detriment on the images.. I'll rarely be printing the scans, mostly for online use. Was thinking a v600.
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So I recently ordered something from e-bay.

I was given an arrival estimate, but it has passed. I have no tracking number.

Should I just wait? It is coming from the U.K. to Japan (cheaper than buying locally surprisingly enough). Both have rather competant podtal services, so it shouldn't be running late.
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>>3055737
probably lost, royal mail is absolute shit tier
send them an email saying it's not here, hopefully you bought it on ebay and with paypal
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>>3055739

Fuck.

I think it is still the 11th in the U.K., will send complaint tomorrow when it is definately overdue.

I did buy paypal and ebay, so hopefully i should have no issues.
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>>3055746
yeah you're covered, worst case you get a refund from paypal and they chase the guy down if he's ripping you off.
strange that it was cheaper in the UK instead of japan.. maybe for a good reason.
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Happened to see this...
https://www.youmagine.com/designs/35mm-film-on-120-spool
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>>3055749
>tfw I paid 55 bucks for a product that did the same.
At least it was made of brass.
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>>3055749
yeah there's something similar for the p67
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>>3055749
>>3055752
not my photo, but here's an example.
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>>3055747
>strange that it was cheaper in the UK instead of japan.. maybe for a good reason.

Looked beautiful in product photos and description said it all worked. Seller has good reviews so I'd be surprised if it was broken.

The main reason I got it from e-bay is because I couldn't find it for sale anywhere here in Japan.
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>>3055757
jap ebay is usually amazing
where I bought my fuji gs645s
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>>3055760

What I am looking for is a Minolta X-500. I posted about it a bunch of times before because I was looking forward to going to shoot sakura with it. I haven't used film since I was a kid, so I was super hyped.

For some reason they don't exist on yahoo auctions, japanese ebay listings, camera no naniwa, or local camera stores.

They have lots of X-700s, however, but their price approches $200-300.
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>>3055468
I've been using smaller bottles to keep chems that're mixed from powder, and filling them right up. This is effectively similar to using accordion bottles, or marbles, except that the current 1/3rd litre or whatever will be going bad at any given time. Idea being that the little oxygen in there is going to do its thing and then the rest will go inert (seals' imperfections notwithstanding).

But, tell you the truth, I've mostly given up on powders at this point. Liquid concentrates are so much more convenient and durable. Wish there was a syrup version of D-76 really.
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>>3055228
No just make sure you use a short shutter time, otherwise the trucks might get blurred
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Got some expired as fuck Astia back

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Some color-correct shots fixing the magenta cast.

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>>3055785
>>3055786
>>3055787
>>3055788
Looks not bad, good you can edit the magenta out. Your the anon doing the unknown areas of Japan style photos right?
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>>3055792
Yep, that's me. Took a bit of a break from that project but went shooting again last week and dropped 3 rolls off at the lab yesterday.
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>>3055792
Why do you people type to each other like you aren't 100% aware of each others identities and circlejerking?
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Are Yashica Electro's good cameras?
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>>3055764
To be honest I can't even remember why I switched from liquid to powder. Maybe it was more cost effective to how I tend to shoot and develop?

Ah well :^) choice anxiety. Cheers for the answer. I don't mind spending a bit on bottles if they'll work, I just don't want to get three or four months down the line and ruin a film because of shite bottles!
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>>3055844
yes
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>>3055857
You can test developer stock the same way as you'd test fixer: dip a leader cutting in, see if there's any action. This is very effective for xtol which goes bad in a snap.
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new fag here
what are some great film rolls for portrait, land scapes and black n white
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>>3055978
>portrait
Portra 160
>landscapes
Velvia 50
>black n white
Tri-X


That's the memefecta of films.
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>>3056001
What about non meme ones with great color
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>>3055709
what? there's nothing technically special about these, 645 is the smallest medium format anyway.

>>3055978
>>3056016
superia, ektar, hp5 (all film is a meme)
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>>3055978
>portrait
portra 160
>landscapes
I don't usually do landscapes
>b&w
fp4+
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>>3055844
like most things depends
I had one, thought it was great, got tired of its gimmicky design/operation fairly quick and sold it for a profit to get a fully manual slr instead
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>>3056073
>>3056062
>>3056001
thanks ya. just picked up a prakica tl3
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>>3055978
>landscapes
ektar 100

>black and white
fuji acros 100
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>>3056119
>ektar for landscapes

serious? the greens are horrendous with ektar.. portra handles landscape far better.
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I'm traveling abroad soon, should I just buy a bunch of portra to take pictures of everything? It seems like a good all around film.
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>>3056123
Buy a bunch of Superia X-TRA. It's cheap enough to buy in bulk.
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thoughts on nikon coolscan iv ls40 for scanning 135/120?
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>>3056124
Isn't Superia shit?
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Some JCH Streetpan. Real fuggin nice stuff

Overexposed because light meters are for fags

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>>3056152

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>>3056130
No.
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>>3055978
Fuji everything, don't listen to those Kodak shills
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>>3056205

This man is right.

Fuji mirrorless cameras are mediocre as hell, but their film is top notch.
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>>3056209
and their medium format rangefinders
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>>3055010

Just to confirm, Data Backs can be disabled right?

I found a decently priced X-700, but it comes with the quartz data back 1. It can be disabled so it does not imprint a date right? Would just pulling the batteries work?
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Best value 6x7 medium format cameras?
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>>3056249
Yeah man just take the battery out

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>>3056253
Any Pentax 6x7 model, the first one without mirror lockup is cheap as fuck

Mamiya RZ67 can also be found for good prices
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Are these scratches a fault of my camera or a guy who developed and scanned the film for me?
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>>3056350
: ( thats a shame
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How well is an F5 in terms of waterproofing?
I want to shoot some shots in the rain and my friend lend me his F5 but I don't want to break it.
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>>3056269
Go for the RB if you want to spend less than $500 USD
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>>3056152
>>3056153
>>3056154
Looks good m8. Hopefully he has plans to release it in 120.
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>>3055944
I didn't know that! What would I look for? Would anything even show up before fixing?
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>>3056406
Have you ever seen a film after development, but before fixing? (such as when separate test pieces end up overlapping on the same reel, because I'm a cheap arse.) It's grey on the unexposed part, and black in the exposed part. You'll be looking for it to turn real dark.

Fixing just removes the grey undeveloped part to make the image printable, and to bring silver halide chemistry in the film to a completion.

As for timing the test and telling something based on it, I have no idea. Suppose you'd test fresh stock first and compare later on?

>>3056392
It's adequately proof against rain if the lens has an ass gasket, and is in itself not vulnerable. Generally only G lenses will be weather sealed. Don't open the film back in the rain though, or remove the lens, obviously.

>>3056258
What would you compare JCH streetpan to?
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Are Holga's a meme? I kinda like what they output and its cool to have a medium format camera that can fit in your jacket pocket or something
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>>3056476
they're a meme insofar as that they're adored by hipster faggots all over the place

in reality they're really shitty made cameras that can produce some interesting shit if that's the aesthetic you're going for
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found 30 rolls of old agfa scala that my mom used to work with a few years back. today was a good day.

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>>3056476
spend your money on some old folder camera like the voigtländer bessa or something similar. better images and even more vintage than holga. hipsters gonna be jelly
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>>3056481
I've heard theyre prone to light leaks and shit, is that true? Because why bother spending money on film if light is going to fuck up mist of my pictures
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>>3056253
koni-omega rangefinders
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>>3056513
well Holgas are typically made of really cheap plastic, so yeah they'll leak, especially if you ever drop the thing
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>>3056350
Also some critique on my snapshits? They are from 4th and 5th rolls of film in my life.
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>>3056528
oops sorry
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Only few more.
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>>3056538
Ok no more (of the "good" ones)
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>>3056538
They seem well done for a beginner. What type of film did you use?
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>>3056543
That one was on Rollei RPX 100
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>>3056152
Overpaid because Rollei Retro 400 is for fags...
And would you look at that, closer to 200 and grainy as fuck, just like I remember Retro 400 being...
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>>3056392
I've used mine in torrential downpours comparable to the resulting gushing brought fort from the cunts of girls attending an Ed Sheeran contest.
It was a press camera and it's weather sealed as good as was possible back in the day.
Most lenses such as the 50/1.4D in this shot aren't but they still can handle some moisture fine.
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I got disheartened after my first role came back overexposed. Now i have like 7 rolls to develop, it used to be that I was just sad and didn't want to look at my failure but now that I am in a better place I am excited to see them but I am opting to get them processed at the end of the year to see a year of photography, Now I am shooting much more tentative with cool film like Porta.

Will post some from the reel of overexposed, it was raining when I took them so maybe that had something to do with it as I swore the light meter was level.
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>>3056560
- continued
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>>3056560
>>3056561
- continued

these were the best of them so imagine the others haha
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>>3056561
>>3056562
>>3056560
-continued
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>>3056560
>>3056561
>>3056562
>>3056563
final
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>>3056563
>BookScanCenter_3.jpg
So you're saying you used a book to scan these?
That looks about right.
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>>3055014
That's why I use Delta

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So I hear black and white is relatively easily developed at home, but what about color films?

Is something like Superia 400 impossible to get right?
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What's a good cheap material to diffuse electronic device screen light for DSLR film scanning? I can see the pixels in the "scans." Perhaps my film should be elevated so they will be out of the DOF?
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>>3056610
Just eliminate the pixels and be done with it. This has no pixels and a lot more light. Nice even light. http://amzn.com/B00J3NRAV2
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>>3056611
>>3056610

Seconding the light pad.

Dirt cheap and you will get a bunch of use out of it.

Plus variable light levels.
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>>3056574
Scanned the photos at the lubrurrry mr. smarty pants
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>>3056583
Exact same process but developer and "blix" (bleach/fixer) has to be at 102•f.
Pic related

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>>3056410
idk JCH isn't like anything I've shot before, so I don't have much to compare it to. I almost exclusively shoot Acros because it's so cheap here, and JCH is definitely much nicer. Acros grain is pretty much nonexistant though, which makes for sharper images.

One more JCH image. This one is a little hazy since one of my lenses is infested with fungus

>>3056583
Black and white is easy because it's just 3 steps and you don't have to be that exact about anything.

Colour film is just as easy to do, but the whole process has to be more precise. The temperature of the chemicals _has_ to be exactly what it says, and the time has to be exact too. The good part about processing C41 is that it's a standardised process, so all films process for the same amount of time and in the same dilution chemicals.

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Portra 400

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Delta 100

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Sometimes ordering shit on ebay fucking sucks. I bought a camera on ebay and the guy said he was sending it out on the 6th and then would send me the shipping/tracking number and he never did and it still hasn't showed up. What should I do?
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>>3056660
that's dank as fuck my man, good job.
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>>3055330
QUEENSLAND
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This is an electrograph that I made as a part of a larger abstract/experimental series I'm working on

>made using 4x5 fp4+ that I passed a high voltage current through and developed as if developing a silver print (just in total darkness)

I have newer work that was made using 4x5 orthographic film that I'll prolly upload later, I just don't have any of the scans on my home pc atm

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>>3056682
Here's another of my early electrographs

>this one made using old as fuck 8x10 orthographic film and developed like a silver print
>the shapes in the image were created accidentally due to having multiple sheets stacked under red light while developing

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>>3056664
Just message him

>Tfw bought a motorcycle on eBay and I accidently over paid by $500 but still got my money back
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>>3056682
>>3056685
these are neat as fuck
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hi /p/, so recently i found my parents old minolta Rva AF 35-EX (pic), i have no experience in film so is this camera good enough for starter?
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>>3056676
God bless this sunburned land

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>>3055514
It's not shit. Just meme'd at. Try every you can
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Half framers of /fgt/, have you compared the various Olympus F models? I know the FT finder is supposed to be dimmer, and the FV is quite rare. The F in turn lacks a microprism for accurate focusing. It's also more expensive than the rather common FT.

I'm about to pick up a F kit while I'm here in Japan and I was originally after an F or FV, but now I'm thinking would the FT be just as good for cheaper?
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so im guessing that no SLRs (let alone completely manual ones, maybe with a meter) are being manufactured nowadays?
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>>3056723
Nikon still produces and sells the f6. Maybe even other models
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>>3056725
i guess, but at that point film just becomes a stylistic choice of a picture over a fun and engaging way to photograph, it's no fun when it's all electric
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>>3056729
You can still set everything in all manual and have the same fun, alongside with readily findable batteries and a warranty
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>>3055098
My friend for $20 I get 2600x1700 scans and $8.25 just to develop. Don't worry I got a light table and macro lens now I just need to learn all this Lightroom bs
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>>3056729
There's more to it, if I follow your train of thought a Memeshica T* series is also no fun considering they are about as automatic as a disposable.

The F5/F6 have their place, I wouldn't get them as a first film camera but if you have an extensive library of Nikon lenses they are worth it.
You still get everything you want, full on manual etc.. only in the most advanced film bodies ever made.

My Leica and og Nikon F see more use but the F5 is an infallible beast of a camera, it's a joy to use, it may not be shiny and chrome but damn if that big meaty body isn't a joy to hold and use, the controls are logical, the layout is great.
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Fucking finally.

Took over three weeks to arrive instead of the estimated 4 days.

All the Sakura are pretty much gone now.

Shoulda just bought locally instead of trying to save money.
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I'm currently using the Pentax K1000 and have been thinking about stepping up to a 'better' model though I don't really see much of a difference between my pentax and say an f5 besides the fact that the f5 can take multiple exposures. Won't the picture be the same more or less just depending on the glass I use? It is not like a DSLR with better or worse specs, it is just exposing film, right?
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>>3056768
yes
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>>3056768
Yes. And you can take multiple exposures on k1000
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How long can you leave film in the camera for?
I live in a seriously shit and grey town but when it's sunny there are some nice places to go and shoot. The sun was out for an hour or so so I ran to the reservoir and took 10 or so shots until the sun went away and it's been grey and rainy ever since with half a roll still in my camera
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>>3056784
like a couple years with no problems. If it's slide film it'll go bad quicker but normal negative film will stay good for pretty much decades
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>>3055010

Do I need UV filter for Superia X-tra 400 film?
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>>3056740
fuck lightroom, just go all in and use the full photoshop
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>>3055010

Is 6000x4000 too high resolution for scans?
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>>3056848
It depends on what scanner you are using and the size of the film you are scanning. Also if the scanner can optically scan at that high of res vs interpolation.

Its not too high just might be more than what you need.
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>>3056856

a7ii w/ SEL90M28. I doubt I will go larger than A4 print size, but the local shop will only give me about 1000ish scans.
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>>3056742
i definitely agree they have their place but unfortunately that place is not in my interest
i would have hoped that at least somewhere manual SLRs were still made for student use but oh well
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>>3056863
If you have a good rig around that a7ii (ie good light source to iluminate the film and a rock solid copy stand or tripod) and make sure you focus on the grain of the film you should be able to pull quite a lot out. Definitely enough for an A4 print.
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>>3056867

Awesome, thanks.

I have a passable tripod and light pad setup, just need a proper film holder and I am set. Getting decent enough shots without one even.
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>>3056880
Anytime, I use a v600 from Epson but also have a digital cam scanning rig. I use it infrequently because it can be such a pain in the ass to set up. If you are planning on doing lots of scans it might be worth it to look into a flatbed scanner but if you don't mind the set up you will probably get better results with your cam if you optimize the workflow.
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>>3056865
There are plenty second hand to go around still, to make it profitable is hard and only Leica really seems to manage due to Leicalust.

>>3056768
In terms of results there will be no difference apart from the fact that the metering on the F5 is infallible, it's an easier beast to get solid results with. The Pentax K1000 is simple. It does exactly what it needs to do, and nothing more. The F5 does more then you ever need.
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Bought some used film holders and one of them was loaded. This sheet is ruined, but can anyone identify it by the notches? i have another one of the same kind

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>>3056887

I will probably still get the low res developing scans, and just scan the ones I like.

Lining the negative up forma 1:1 scan can be tiresome.
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>>3056722
Adding to this.

How do I buy stuff from Yahoo Auctions? Just registered there, but I couldn't entirely complete my profile info with my name and address etc., as my credit card doesn't get accepted. It's not Japanese and I guess that's the reason. I seem to be able to log in just fine however. 助けてください!
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Took some HP5 for the first time to the place I get film developed. They said they can't do it. They could do Xp2 because it uses the same processing as colour or something, but they can't do HP5.
What the fuck is this shit? Were they just being lazy or are they just shit?
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>>3056918
Alot of places wont touch black and white films.
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>>3056918
Black and white is a different chemical process to colour negative film. XP2 is a black and white film but it uses the colour process. Real black and white is very easy to do at home, and very cheap once you get past the initial costs of buying a tank, changing bag, etc.
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can cop for $50. comes with a16 flash. worth?
any issues I should worry about or ask about beforehand?

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>>3056934
you don't even really need a changing bag if you have a room in the center of your house that you can make mostly light-tight

I use the bathroom in my apt if I'm developing at home instead of the darkroom that I have access to
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>>3056938
100% cop, especially if flash is included. great cam and truly tiny.
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>>3056938
If it works, it works. I've found them prone to bumps though so if there's any obvious drop mark be careful.
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>>3056938
This is my primary street shooter. So small and quiet, but such crisp images. I have the A11 flash but rarely use it. Definitely cop
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>>3055010
Awe fuck yeah, dev'd some acros 100 @ 400 with ddx and it looks crisp.
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Is it worth investing into an eos film camera so I can use my af eos lenses? If so whats one is the best value one?
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>>3056982
Depends if you need dank af speed and tons of options. I'd pick up one of the cheap bodies and go from there. Rebel 2 or 1000n, elan7/e are probably next step up? Then eos-1. I've only researched eos systems never used um so take this lightly.
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>>3056990
Just had a look on ebay and there's tons of really cheap bodies ($10-$30). Will probably buy a few and keep the one I like the most. And if I don't like any I might chip out some more money and buy an eos-1 or eos-5
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>>3056982
I bought a canon EOS 10s for like $7 on ebay and it's in great condition and is a pretty cool camera
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Sup newfag here. I just shot my first roll of film (Ificolor 200)
And i'm going to by some more film, but my local store only stock Kodak Tmax 400 and Fuji Superia 200. Are these films recommend?

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>>3056998
I haven't shot Tmax but Superia is great for its price. It renders green really well, which has been great for me in the pacific northwest.
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>>3057002
Oh cool! I shoot a lot in the forest so that will work out great. I'm going to pick up some superia when the store opens. Thanks!
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>>3056901
Think I answered you in discord, but the absolute easiest way to pay is by paying at the convenience store. To buy you just bid like a typical auction site.
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So the only way I know how to develop film is through drug stores and they give you those little 5x2 photos and your negatives back.

How do you go about getting large prints done? Is it exclusive to certain types of film?

Please tell me they won't make them all fuckhuge

How the hell does this work?
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>>3057115
Also, do scanners make these shots less detailed? I noticed alot of the film shots ITT have grain.

I want to transition from film to digital, but you can get CRISP right?
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>>3055589
That's... Actually kinda funny. Never thought of that one myself.
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>>3057115
>>3057123
you can buy your own equipment to develop film at home (paterson tank, chemicals, etc) you dont have to send it anywhere if you dont want to

as for prints, you can take negatives that you develop and scan those (dont use a shitty scanner for paper documents) and take the scans and print those larger
film lets you print larger due to the inert detail that film lets you get

and literally all film has a grain to it, higher ISO (sensitivity) film will have more grain to it
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>>3057155
So technically its less detailed than digital?
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>>3057160
other way around m8

digital can't compare with film unless you're trying to spend lik $60k for a camera
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Fucking finally.

It has a few scuffs but is mostly damn clean. Viewfinder has some specs in it, but nothing terrible. Will have to look into cleaning it one day.

I have it loaded and properly advancing (I think).

Will try to go shoot some snapshits with it and get it developed today, but since it is 3 o'clock already, not sure I can.
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>>3057178

And I forgot my picture.

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Is this shit more or less normal for a 100% crop on a 3200dpi scan from a V600? This hasn't been processed or anything, just auto-tone in LR. It's pretty gross, no?

I'm trying to figure out the simplest ways to get a good workflow going with it, and I just can't seem to get the kind of results I'd want to go for prints with. Every time I look for guides or help with this stuff all the results are just pedantic retirees on rangefinder forums bickering about this or that spec on whatever model.

halp, pls
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>>3057197

>he fell for the v600 meme
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>>3057197

It looks like my dslr set to ISO 6400.
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>>3057179
Niiiiceeee I have the same one
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>>3057179
>>3057178
How did you get it so clean though?
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>>3057234
>>3057237

Part of it is my phone camera sucks and you can't see the details.

But for the most part is is very clean. It even has the plastic protective stuff still on the bottom.

Viewfinder has like 3 or 4 large dust specs though.

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>>3057197
Looks about right for a v600. Is it 35mm? I wouldn't bother printing 35mm scans from a v600. You can maybe get away with making small prints from 120.

Also, v600 can't actually do 3200dpi. More like 1600. Source: http://www.filmscanner.info/en/EpsonPerfectionV600Photo.html

>As it is the case for almost all flat bed scanners, it also applies for the Epson Perfection V600 Photo that in case of the scannings of film material one cannot expect to get the quality of a good film scanner. The focus of the flat bed devices is clearly the digitalization of non transparent documents as the paper fotos, graphics and texts.

>In our testscan done with the USAF test chart with the V600, the vertical lines of the element 5.2. and the horizontal lines of the element 4.5 are barely recognizable. According to our resolution table, an effective resolution of 1560ppi results from that. This is less than a quarter of the resolution of 6400ppi declared by the producer. This is much too less for high quality scans of negatives or slides! For the 35mm format, some image files of only approximately 3,6 megapixels result.
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Picked this up at a dump n run for $3. Currently using Kodak tri-x and i have 6 other rolls that i have yet sent to be developed.

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What is this camera? Which lens does it have and which aperture? How does it meter without a battery slot? Is it fun to shoot with?

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>>3057247
>>3057237
>>3057234
>>3057179

I just realized...I was in such a rush to get out and shoot a test roll before it rained that I forgot to check the light seals.

Oh well, probably fine...right?
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>>3057307
>Oh well, probably fine...right?
famous last words
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>>3057307
>when the FGT has turned into a blog
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>>3057297
Might be a good idea to get a roll developed to make sure it works before burning 7 rolls through the thing.

>>3057306
It doesn't meter, probably has 1 shutterspeed and aperture.
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>>3057311
>1 SS and A
What does that mean? Will everything be either under or overexposed?
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>>3057313
Some of it could be correctly exposed too, depending on the light intensity and the ISO of the film you're using.
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>>3057310

/fgt/ stands for film gear talk.
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>>3057316
What the heck
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>>3057313
This is how disposable cameras work too. Slap some c41 film in, shoot in daylight, and odds are the film's dynamic range will take care of the rest.
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>>3057173
Good to know, but I'm trying to grasp how if theres always gonna be grain in film shots.
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>>3057388

You just need to use the right film

http://www.adox.de/Photo/adox-films-2/cms-20-ii-adotech-ii/
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>>3057306
No idea, but by appearance very likely a fixed narrow aperture and a fixed shutter speed. I've got a similar one and they have quite dreamy, holga-like single element plastic lenses. Put some fast film in it and keep in mind with those kinds of cameras (assuming it is one of those) you'll need to be at least five or six feet away from whatever you want to photograph.

If it's an auto-focus compact then I have no idea. Post an update when you get a roll through it though!
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>>3057388
Film grain isn't the same thing as digital noise, although they look similar and are very similar in practical terms. People also generally use the terms grain and noise interchangeably.
Film grain is a real, physical thing. It's a part of the emulsion, basically little clumps.
Digital noise is more like the 'static' you'd get in an old TV, simply put it's stray electricity.
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is superia worth the $13 a box?
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Just developed 2 rolls of Maco AQS Eagle shot at 400, HC-110(b) for 6:30 at 20°C, per recommendation on /p/ and elsewhere to treat it like Retro 400s. Came out underdeveloped, plus the developer came out a brownish-red which I don't think Retro 400s ever did.

In conclusion, AQS Eagle is not Retro 400s; otherwise the negs would've been nice and thicc instead of kinda lame like now. I'll give it 8 minutes the next time.
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Amateur pleb with Zorki 4, this is probably one of my better pics

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>>3057500
I buy in bulk from macodirect, pay less than half that.
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>>3057514
Retro 400S is really a 200 speed film anyway. It's probably still the same.
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>>3057514
If it has a dx code you can input the number and this site tells you what else it's sold as: https://dexter.pcode.nl/
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>>3057249
Yeah I'm aware of the resolution being grossly overstated but I guess it's still not quite there for 8x12's huh. Oh well at least it wasn't expensive.

>>3057210
Bought a new 35mm body and got impatient after I missed out on a Craigslist dude's Opticfilm 8200i. Impulse buys are a son of a bitch.
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>>3057538
It's from a bulk reel. Maco sells it as a traffic monitoring film. No barcodes on the sides, just some (dirty-looking) numbering.

>>3057535
I've developed Retro 400s in HC-110(b) before, with this recipe, and it came out fine. It's definitely underdeveloped.

But, oh well. Next time I'll not experiment two rolls at a time. Heh heh.
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So I got this minolta X-7a that sometimes the cutain won't close all the way, most persistent at slower shutter speeds.

I want to take a roll of kodak gold through it, and past 60th of a second it SEEMS like the curtain isn't catching, may be too fast for me to notice.

Is this fine or am I SOL? I don't have time atm to fix it.
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is kodak gold as trash as people make it out to be?
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>>3057606
Just shoot it and see how it looks, it's not as if it's top shelf shit
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>>3057500
Depends what "box" means. A 3 pack? No. A 5 pack? Yes. 24exp? No. 36exp? Yes.
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New thread, roll out fgts >>3057660
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>>3057425
I only have iso 200 rolls
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>>3055104
I got a pentax ME super and it works great, but it has a max speed of 1600, which is only a drawback if you're even going that high. Pentax lenses are also cheap as hell which is a super nice bonus.
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