Fishing & Tackle

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>>1087085
Can someone explain why fly fishing is more effective in catching trout in river? Im genuinely curious because i went to the river today with my spinner rod and caught zip, even though i had good bites.

>>1087090
because wild trout are autistic, and they genuinely only want to eat something that looks like what they have been eating up until that point. fly fishing lets you fish tiny "baits" that look like inverts which reside in your stream of choice.

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>>1087090
>even though i had good bites.
>caught zip

wut? they hit your lure but no hookups?

>>1087090
It's not entirely true, but trout, even larger trout, will eat very small meals like nymphs and emerging flies. Look in the river next time closely,such as picking up a rock and looking at all the bugs that hold onto it. That said, fly fishing intimidates the common forage, and fish like to eat what they know is good. Fly fishing makes these lil lures like flies and nymphs easier to work with. And straight up more fun

>>1087090
i always asked others this question as well, and i did not understand the answers until i learnt how to cast me a fly rod.

Yeah, wasnt even using a lure just a hook/worm. It doesnt help because trebles are banned in the river, but everyone still uses them. I dont know maybe im not setting the hook right. How do you all do it?

>>1087097
And by rock I mean one underwater on the river's floor. Pretty neat what life is just in there. Also try staring at the calm banks where 1-2 cm long bait fish are hunting for lil water bugs that try and swim away.

>>1087095
>>1087099
see above

>>1087099
Use small hooks. Use less worm. You'd be surprised at what small things they'll nibble on.

>>1087095
Where to acquire the Winged CocknBalls plastic?

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Wondering if anyone uses a drop shot specific rod?

what characteristics would you want in a drop shot rod?

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>>1087104
do you prefer the 'midnight' color? I really really think it would be better for you.

>>1087106
russki?

>>1087103
what size do you think would be best?

>>1087106
I do.
>casting rod (I will never understand those who want spinning shits for dropshotting)
>moderate-fast action (so a St Croix X-fast or Fenwick Fast)
>medium power
>as sensitive as I can find/afford
>long as fuck, like seriously my current is 7'6" and I'm trying to find a 9'
>microguides
>balance point of completed rod+reel at the reel seat

>>1087108
Do they make it in faggot-flag rainbow?

How about prolapsed-anus red?

>>1087095
I'm going to tie a cock fly out of foam when I get home now
>>1087090
Trout are autistic, fly anglers are autistic, and autists are really good st catching autists.
>>1087113
How about goatse red/black fade?

>>1087118
>How about goatse red/black fade?
I'll take 10. I can pay in quarts of semen, right?

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>>1087118
>gonna tie a cock fly when I get home
BEHOLD. The Meat Missile version 0.1a!
>contains 0% meat and 0% missile
>contains 1 piece of random open-cell foam out of my trash can, 1/4 of a cent worth of thread, and 30 seconds of drunken half-assedness

>>1086804

>Tiny female rock crabs

Why though? None of those look anywhere near 6 inches. Is this a picture of a mexicans cooler?

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>>1087131
you see the dungies? whats limit on them derp? All boys and bigger and sweeter than the dungies.
now go be gay somewhere else.

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>>1087085
Well boys, I think I just found my fetish.
Now I have to come up with an excuse to take my gf to a mud hole.
>my boner when thinking about the shower to get all that mud off

>>1087106
I use a 6'6" Medium-Light power, Fast action, St. Croix Triumph with 10lb braid on a size 2500 spinning reel.

>>1087111
I use spin shit for drop shots because I'll hold the line perpendicular to the surface of the water and have my drag low. I use a light wire octopus hook, so I don't need a lot of power to get a hook set and I'm afraid it'll rip out if the drag is too heavy. Shits so cash when I've been bouncing it perpendicular for 15 seconds and that fish finally takes it and I hear the drag run when I set the hook. I'll crank the drag after I set the hook though to more or less tow them in.

>pier fishing
>guy constantly fishing for about 6hrs straight
>walk on over
>dude has at least two 60qts coolers filled to the brim with hardheads and sailcats

That had me laughing my ass off. I've never seen somebody keep that many damn cats before. It would take me weeks to clean that mess.

>>1087151
He probably has a family that owns a restaurant, and they're serving hardhead as "locally caught fresh fish".

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>>1087111
>nice digit my friend

casting rod cool wondering about that, is it hard to cast light thing? wat is advantage of these microguide? what line? size and kind you prefer use?

>>1087109
yes comrade, what can I help you?

>>1087144
thankyou for comment, do you use leader?

>>1087154
I don't use a leader because I'm cheap, lazy, and bass don't give two fucks.
Maybe if I competed I'd use it just to not regret it, but I'm more than okay with having fun catching 2lbers without a leader. Honestly the notion of needing a leader seems to fall flat when you're going to nose hook or wacky rig the worm anyways where much of the hook will be visible.

had an odd thing happen over the weekend. was out catfishing throwing out cut chunks of bluegill in a small lake. turn around for a few minutes to get a lighter off my brother and get some pizza out of the car. start walking back and see my rod almost go in the water. start realing and think i've got a decent channel, but it feels a little weird.
was actually a 5lb bass. completely gut hooked himself on a piece of cut bluegill. i just cut the line, couldnt even see the hook. (was using decent size circle hooks to avoid this sort of thing but largemouth bass have large mouths i guess.)
is there any chance hes gonna make it bros? :(

>>1087165
In my opinion, and I don't mean any offence by this but if you don't know what you're doing in regards to removing a fish hooked that deep it's probably not even worse messing with because you'll wind up doing more harm than what's already been done.

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2nd seatrout on land this year (forgot photo of the first).
Apparently all it took was a new rod...

>>1087151
Hard head cats taste really good, they just have hardly any meat on them unless they're large.

It's no worse than keeping a cooler full of pan fish.

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>>1087182
Pretty fish. Do you fish in a stream or on the coast? What lure is that?

>>1087191
I wasn't trying to sound it like I was knocking him. It's just funny sometimes seeing a cooler full of what most people deem trash fish. I personally love whiting/ground mullet but some people hate it.

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>>1087214
Hi Mariageranon(?)
Coast or well, fjord to be more specific. Or in this particular case near the harbour in Odense. Found a spot yesterday afternoon with seemingly lots and lots of small trout. Had a strike almost every cast but only three stuck. The one in the last pic was the biggest I landed (approx 40cm). Not big, but nice to land the first trout of the year...
The lure is a Snapper no.3 (10g) - see pic. Slowly becoming one of my favourites...

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>>1087232
Ahh Hi Odenseanon! Congrats on the fish.
That does look like a decent spoon. I love white colored lures in general. Not too flashy, but still very visible in murky water.

Did you see the big fish I caught last week? - 2,64kg (80g off my PR)

>>1087237
Thanks...
And yeh, white is one of my prefered colours as well. Quite visible but still 'feels' natural as most fish have a white belly.
It comes highly recommended from me. Casts well for a spoon as wide as it is. If you wanna get one just be sure to get the 3rd edition, not the 1st one as only the 3rd (afaik) has those little wings. 1st edition is still decent but 3rd is much more lively in the water I find.

Nope... I didn't... but it looks damn nice... big congrats :)
Snurrebassen or the Memegear Line-Thru Sandeel? :p

>>1087110
I'm not good with hook sizes. But something as big as your thumbnail at most

>>1087264
Looking online I can only find the old editions, but ill pick one up when I find one for sure.

>Snurrebassen or the Memegear Line-Thru Sandeel
Actually it was neither of them this time. Ive had an unopened bucket of Gulp Sandeels lying around for almost year that I finally decided to open. They are incredibly effective at night when you can't see a thing and all that the trouts can see are silhouettes in the moonlight. If I had tried them earlier, I wouldve nightfished a lot more this summer.

>>1087059
Nah, Hanover. It takes an hour because of back roads. Chambersburg is also about an hour but there are some good fisheries between here and there

>>1087085
*pfft*

>>1087154
>hard to cast
No, and that's exactly why I want a long damn rod. I can fling a splitshot rig a long way with it even with almost no weight. HOWEVER. It's a finesse technique, you shouldn't ever have to bomb it.
>why microguide
Sometimes when I have a lot of "drop" in my dropshot and I'm not being careful, I can get it wrapped all up around the tip. Microguides means I can just shake it and it fixes itself, regular guides and I've got the weight going through eyes or wrapping around their feet. Plus weight and balance and casting distance.
>what line?
10lb P-line copoly.

How do I catch snook?

>>1087486
Bass jig around structure.

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>>1087486
Live shrimp for small, fresh dead mullet or pinfish for the big ones.
t. Floridian who catches many snook

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>>1087522
Heres my personal record.

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>>1087523
And since im posting anyway, just got this cutie during my recent trip to sanibel island

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>>1087522
>>1087523
>>1087524
Salt fags don't catch anything bigger than bluegill according to bepos though?

What'd you do, google "saltwater bowfin" and posted the first three results? Cmon bruh

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>>1087486
in b4 castnet

>>1087523
>>1087522
I'll just pretend those pictures aren't photoshopped for a second and ask you where did you catch them in florida?

According to our resident saltwater expert Bepis, saltwater fishing is a meme and nobody really catches anything but tiny jack crevalles. Those that do end up catching big fish had to wait 12 hours watching bait soak.

>>1087557
How many hours did you wait?

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>severe storms last night
>River hits 8 feet when normally 4 feet
>Start tossing crankbaits in hopes of getting into the big feed feast going on
>When river drops enough after a few hours, start walking the crank up and down the cement wall
>Nothing

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>>1087569

Went exploring and found a gorgeous lake near a quarry.

Water was crystal clear and full of trout & bass.

How do you guys target bigger fish? I caught like 8 small guys and then kept switching lures up for bigger and bigger but just ended up with slightly chunkier trout.

I know the lake has up to 8lb'ers in it

>>1087576
Sometimes you just got to work through the little guys, or just use bigger bait.

>>1087593
True, lil guys do seem to bite much faster.

Bigger fish are more wary while smaller ones are opportunistic

>>1087569
I'm not an expert, but I would think when the river is flooding wouldn't be the best time to fish.

>>1087573
>>1087569
>>1087599
Yeah, I wouldn't have tried fishing that in a million years unless there were some really calm spots.

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>>1087599
There's been a lot of good reports when it is like this in this spot, such as stripers even into September.
Last time I got bit off by a musky there, local buddy told me before he hooked it too.
I've also gotten a carp. Pic related is a big as white perch. Plenty of other fish at medium-high flows but never good when it's normal flow.

Keep in mind it's a dam.

>>1087537
Kek. Nah, they catch stuff, but it's like 3 worthwhile fish a year.

I wasted another afternoon there today. Some needlefish and little puffers were chasing baits that were way too big for them.

>>1087669
Stop wasting your time there. Try boynton inlet. You'll learn really quickly which spots are shit and which spots produce fish and boynton inlet is one of them.

>>1087669
Most of those "worthwhile fish" come during the mullet run which is in september. I fished the mullet run last year and it was pure insanity,3 spinner sharks, juvenile tarpon and 40 inch snook in 2 hours of fishing.

>>1087129
just got home, and instead i tied a caddis for no particular reason, ive never even seen one here, but im about to try to figure out a cock fly.
>>1087110
try a size 12
>>1087669
>tries something new for the first time
>expects to be good right away
fish the salt every weekend, and find people who are not googans, then pick their brains. if the spot is only googans, its not a good spot.

>>1087730
fuc forgot trip

>>1087168
i can usually get a hook out of a bass if theres something to grab and the fish isn;t too small, but he completely swallowed it. nothing but line coming out of his throat.

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>>1087090
A big reason why flyfishing is often more effective is it can be easier to match the drift of the current since you have essentially a giant float. Trout can be quite fickle when it comes to this. Not only does your bait have to closely mimic the prey, it has to be traveling at the same speed and in the right column of water. Spinning is a bit easier to use though and can be just as effective if you can get the speed of the drift right.

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>>1087129
>>1087747
Behold, the hairy Cockasian (spelled that way deliberately) the white cock complete with pubes

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>>1087779
since you like dicks here's one

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>>1087669
i would try a different spot bruh. fuck waiting for one to swim by. keep on the move and find them.

>make some chum balls and slingshot them out

>>1087781
kek. would fish it unironically.

>>1087280
>Gulp Sandeels at night
Watched Thomas Gravesens video did you?
I have a bunch of them as well from last winters' sale in Bilka but I have yet to find a good way to rig them. Guess I am overthinking it though but I like my stuff to be just the way I want them. And haven't had much time to experiment with them...

If you like I guess I could pick some up for you from one of the local stores and mail them to you? Then you can get the original Strippers as well and not that cheap knock-off from Hansen(?). Alternatives: http://jackrapid.dk/salg.html or if you don't need 10, call one of the Odense stores and ask them.

>>1087597
... and also odds are there are over 9000 little ones for each 8lb'er.

>>1087797
>there are over 9000 little ones for each 8lb'er.
This, and the instant they fuck up, they're out of the lake forever. Gone into the skillet, or mounted on the wall, or kept out of the water so much due to pics and such that they die soon after.
A large lake might have a small population of fish that size, but a small pond is likely to only have one. And when it goes, It'll take years for a single fish to get that big again.

>>1087872
>bass
>dying from being handled
You'd have a valid point if you'd specifically said trout (who seem to go tits up if you look at them sternly) but it takes a good amount of no-shit abuse to kill a bass.

>>1087877
If you look I didn't mention either specifically. But the larger point still holds. Take a fish-any fish-beyond its tolerance and it's gone.

There are a lot more small fish than big fish, and when the big fish are out of the water it takes awhile for the smaller ones to fatten up.
I've heard stories that somebody once caught a 9lb fish in my local public park's pond, but note the key word:
>once
Will a fish in that pond get that big again? Doubt it. That happened just after the end of a severe multi-year-long drought, there's now constant heavy fishing pressure, and the water is small. I consider myself lucky to have landed a 3lb fish there now.

Which brings me to the point I forgot to make in my earlier post. Getting to where you catch the smaller fish consistently is the first step in the process of catching bigger fish.
Get to catching the small ones and the big ones will come, provided they are in the water and around your lure.

What kind of fish did I catch? I had a fish that looked like a searobin but much more menacing and prehistoric looking. Almost like a monkfish but I know we don't get monkfish out here. Dauphin island Alabama by the way. Probably wasn't bigger than 7 inches.

I have a pic on my phone but you can barely see anything.

>>1087907
sculpin?

>>1087907
Sounds like a grapefruit sculpin.

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>get everything packed away and organized last night
>set alarm for 5am
>wake up at 7am
>jump out of bed
>strain something in my neck
>go back to bed with neck throbbing and no hope of catching any wild trout today

Just fucking kill me

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>>1087952
>Wake up
>4 am
>Too early
>Go back to sleep
>Wake up at 8
> Start getting g ready
>Sit down for a minute
>Fall back asleep

Also you said wild trout?

>>1087090
You can always use a casting bubble if you don't want to drop the dough on a fly rod. Casting bubbles are those clear bobbers that you can put water inside, they let you cast super light lures like flies with a weight that doesn't always sink.

They aren't allowed in "fly fishing only" areas in all states though. I live in Washington and in "fly fishing only" areas you must use a fly rod, fly reel with fly line, and barbless flies. Casting bubbles allowed only for disabled anglers.

>>1087974
Forgot to add, in areas not designated "fly fishing only" bubbles are ok

I asked on /an/ too but maybe one of you knows the answer...

I have property up north with a cabin on it, and a ~400 acre lake. I own all the property around the lake. The lake is filled with only perch and northern pike. it's a sandy bottom lake.

would it be possible to dump enough rocks in one end of the lake to have a rocky bottom, or will they eventually all sink and be covered by the mud/sand?

my goal is to plant walleye in the lake, but I want them to be self sustaining eventually. they generally like rocky areas to spawn as far as i know? Will walleye spawn in a sandy bottom lake?

>>1088031
It would be expensive to get the rocks out to your property and a nightmare to move them out into the lake but you could probably build a series of reefs out or large rock piles. I don't know that much about this though, just be careful what you do to your lake. before introducing anything I would set up something to block fish or fry from leaving through any creeks feeding into or leaving your fishery.

>>1088031
>they generally like rocky areas to spawn as far as i know?
Ask your local fish biologist first. Give them an email or stop by one of their offices (the guys around be actually like to talk fish) There might be other reasons why they dont spawn.

This usually high pressured spot of river was still shit today, despite my thinking (and another stranger that I met with the same intentions) that with heavy rain two nights ago brought up fish.

I managed a dink bass, then finally got a nice smallie further up the dam after being smallie-skunked the last two trips.

>>1087907
>>1087916
>>1087945
sounds right to me
>>1087952
good job

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>>1087784
>that image
why the fuck wouldn't they try and retrieve it, after getting rescued, rather than just cutting the line and letting it plunge?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266519/Uh-oh-Fishermen-stranded-Tennessee-river-12-foot-dam-drop-hours.html

>>1088034
>block off creeks
this is terrible advice

>>1088031
are you in the US or canada?
what are the mean and max depths?
is it literally all sand, or is there mud and veg too?
elevation above sea level?
what is/are the source(s) of water in the lake (a few little mountain streams or bigger creeks)?
how sure are you of the current species composition?

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wat fish might this be

>>1088158
lizardfish?

>>1088158
A crude drawing.

>>1088158
A bad drawing of probably an oceanic eel (Moray family).

>>1088158
Where on earth was this fish seen or caught?

>>1088158
It's like a snakehead-walleye-bowfin hybrid lol

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>>1088158
das it mane

>>1087945
>>1087916
Yep! That's exactly what it looked like. Thanks fellas.

>>1087085
she seems like a nice girl

>all that fucking mud on the rod/reel is making me fucking angry tho

>>1088034
the state or whoever is in charge of the roads up there have quite a few gravel pits nearby. i was just going to take my side by side out there and fill up a trailer x number of times. like I said, its a cabin so it gives me something to do

>>1088110
US.
Max is ~34'.
it's silt and marl i guess if i wanted to be technical? it's more firm than mud but not 100% sand like lake michigan. one corner of the lake where a small creek feeds in, is very shallow and swampy with a lot of cattails.
about 920 feet.
the lake has two small creeks. one feeds in from another lake and the one going out goes off into the woods somewhere i've never actually walked to the end of it.
i'm 99% sure there are only pike and perch in there. i've been fishing it for 5 years now and never caught anything else. If they were in there i'd have caught or seen dead ones by now.

I've got fantastic news lads. Those golf course ponds that I've been trying at for over a year since the massive fish kill took place finally payed off today. I decided to bring my fly rod over instead of my normal bass tackle and found a healthy population of largemouth bass and beautiful blue gill. I also found fish in ponds that I've never seen fish in before ever so that p cool too. 100% made up for me sleeping in.

I'll get picks today. It was too dark when I went over last time

>>1088415
congrats red. i have a similar story. i was up all night and decided to go out at dawn for some pike in a creek ive had luck in before. i walked about 1/2 a mile fishing the whole way and didnt see anything but minnows, but then i saw a bwo hatch going on, and still no fish. eventually i snagged my streamer (and couldnt get it back) so i turned around and started flipping rocks. every third rock seemed to have a crawdad under it, i saw tons of minnows, and mayfly nymphs from a size 14 to size 32 and every where inbetween, i also found a baby catfish and the craws were the most docile things youve ever seen. once you got a finger on them they would freeze, then just sit in your open palm, maybe walking slowly. only one even tried to pinch me, and it didnt even hurt. 10/10 craws
i got pics, will post soon

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>>1088447
Tiny cat

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>>1088483
>>1088447
Friendly craw

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>>1088447
>>1088486
When I was a little boy I used to spend all day at my grandfathers flipping rocks finding craws under rocks. I've seen little minnows in there before so
I think I'll try and fly fish it next time I head up
>>1088483
Would be cool to have in a fish take for a little bit.

>>1088391
It doesn't matter. It's a telescoping rod, so it's shit anyway.

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Never been fishing before but I want to try. What supplies to I need from Amazon, and can I get it for under $100?

Also, how safe are river fish, when the river is probably filled with pcbs and mercury. Thanks

>>1088575
Rod/Reel combos can be had pretty cheaply, but you get what you pay for usually, so be mindful. My state has a database lookup for water bodies, check out your states web resources.
https://eohhs.ehs.state.ma.us/DPH_FishAdvisory/Default.aspx

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A little lunch-break bass.

Are expensive fly rods worth it?

I'm thinking about going balls deep into a 2-3wt trout setup for small creeks like I've been fishing. My st.croix avid has been pretty nice and I really like it but 8'6" is just a little too long with all the trees hanging over.

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>>1087085
>2017
>using right hand wind reels
ISHYGDDT

>>1088623

I've never used a top of the line right but honestly if I was gonna a split I wouldn't do it in a 2/3wt. I'd say if your gonna get one expensive trout rod get a 5wt. But what do I know anyways really, just seems logical to me.

>>1088626
I don't have any use for a 5 weight desu. All the trout water near me is tiny and if it is too big for a 2-3 weight my 4 wt will be perfect. On bigger water I have my 10wt for salmon and steelehead. The only thing missing from my arsenal to properly cover the water available to me is to get a small one now

>>1088626
Also forgot to mention I already own a 6wt. It's a shitty one but it was baby boys first fly rod so what are ya gunna do.

>>1088623
In the heavier weights, I'd say there's a sweet spot around the $400 mark. IMO a $1200 Sage isn't any better than a $500 Orvis, and a $500 Orvis isn't appreciably better than a $400 Orvis.

In the lighter weights I've honestly preferred my Echo to rods 3-4x its price, it just handles better.

Short (7ft), ultralight (3wt and down) small-stream rods made out of fiberglass are pretty sweet. Dat casting accuracy and forgiveness. They also happen to be fairly cheap, even from the "big name" companies like Sage, Orvis, Winston, etc

>>1088635

I second the Echo (and I am talking about the Echo Base, so that cheapest model they make). Truly amazing how good it is for the money.

>>1088575
Until you know you like fishing, I'd just get a cheap $20 or so Zebco combo from walmart. With the cost of licenses, lures, and all the other shit you'll need, you'll be at your $100 budget before you know it.
Besides, the fish don't care what rod or reel you use, and if you hate it you can throw it into the trash without a second thought.

>>1088638
I've got an Echo Solo 4wt, which ran me just under $100 on sale. I'd put it against a $300-400 Sage or Winston any day and it shits all over my $200 Reddington.

>>1088575
It depends on the river, and the location.
The source of the Mississippi way up in northern Minnesota, for example, is a LOT cleaner than just below the docks in New Orleans.
Most states have a list of consumption guidelines by species for their bodies of water

>>1088635
>In the lighter weights I've honestly preferred my Echo to rods 3-4x its price, it just handles better.

I don't doubt you but when I hear opinions like that I get the feeling it's one of those "hey my rod my not have a high price tag but it has personality" type deals. There is no way a rod that is more expensive in the same specs going to handle worse. Obviously there can be acceptions but logistically it doesn't make any sense how a rod maker would stay in business if that were the case. Again, I don't mean that negatively I'm just trying to stay objective in my search.

Do you know if echo makes any of their rods here in the US? That is an important factor for me. If I'm going to spend a lot I want a prodoct made by American hands

>>1088638
I wonder how it would compair to my st.croix avid. That wasn't that cheap of a rod. I didn't pay much because I got it when Gander was closing down but it's still pretty nice as far as I can tell.

I honestly think I might just fuck around and get the loomis NRX LP 7'6" 3wt

>>1088511
>I think I'll try and fly fish it next time I head up
never stop turning over rocks. if you dont see fish rising, look to the rocks for the food they ant. pull a bug off the bottom of one, then find something in your fly box that looks similar.
>>1088623
get a cabelas cgr 2 weight, then some cheap 3 weight DT line. i love my echo base 2/3 on it, too
i love it with a 5x tippet because i know my line will break before the rod but i still have a good bit of pressure to put on a fish. i wouldnt go any heavier personally though.

>>1088686
I honestly haven't a fucking clue where Echo makes their rods.

My Solo has a true fast action, something I like, and something every Sage or Orvis I've handled does not have. It isn't appropriate to heavier rods (there's a reason almost all 8wts are moderate with the oddball mod-fast) but it's great with a 4-5wt rod for distance.

Balance is a big part of it, and 4wts are kind of a bastard weight anyway. Too many of the "expensive" rods are forward-weighted due to trying to use "cutting edge" materials in the reel seats, my Echo is pretty basic stainless lockring over pretty plain maple seat, and I've got a half-Wells grip when most other rods its size go for something slimmer. I like it better than other rods in its weight class.

Further, I think Echo is a price:perf king, and are underpriced for what they are. Especially compared to older brands like RL Winston and Orvis, where you know at least part of the pricetag is the brand name.

>>1088695
I'll let you know how I do tomorrow morning. Going for that early morning dry fly redemption.
>>1088703
Ever use a bamboo rod? I don't really understand how but everyone who has one claims they are by far the best material for a fly rod. Headwaters makes a rod that is affordable comapired to basicly anyone else and looks nice as fuck. I might look into getting one of those desu. If the fly shop I frequent carried echo rods I'll be sure to check them out. Appreciate the info and opinions bud

>>1088539
Hey now, i got a tele rod thats been catching squid every fall since 2000.
They are handy when you feel like shit and just want to pick it up and go fish.

>>1088400
the silt is likely why you don't have walleyes in there naturally. are there any beaver dams in the upstream creek up to the other lake?

>one corner of the lake where a small creek feeds in, is very shallow and swampy with a lot of cattails.

this is probably excellent northern pike spawning habitat

>the lake has two small creeks. one feeds in from another lake and the one going out goes off into the woods somewhere i've never actually walked to the end of it.

unless these creeks are obviously deep enough to look comfortable for adult desired fish to move freely back and fourth, you should not worry about fish leaving. i would be more concerned with invasives/undesirables introduced in the adjecent water bodies, or already in yours. introduced alewives are notorious for preventing a naturally reproducing walleye pop, as is an unnaturally silty bottom. walleye eggs are super sensitive to being silted over, thats why most lakes prevent them from ever successfully establishing yet, nasty, silty rivers will often have natural walleyes.
i think you already alluded to being aware of the silt issue in your OP, i am not trying to insult your intelligence. if you were to drop in some habitat to help walleyes reproduce naturally, you would be best to do it with big ass craggy rocks, not little babby pebbles from a gravel pit, they will get silted in as you said.
>but wtf craggy rocks are so heavy?
you need to load a dump truck with them, and drive it out onto the ice and drop the rocks where you want your reefs.

>i'm 99% sure there are only pike and perch in there
sounds like heaven in its current state already and likely well balanced.
you'll need to find a source for fry/fingerlings of course but if you have the money and the dedication to getting some habitat in place, you honestly could probably make that lake even more badass.
a disclaimer for you: talk to a DNR biologist to make sure you're not wasting your time, as another fishanon has mentioned.

>>1088705
Yeah, I actually own a bamboo rod (a really really old one from when it was still "current technology").
>pros
Accuracy
Class
Action falls somewhere between graphite and fiberglass
>cons
Fragile
No casting distance
Mediocre sensitivity
Expeeeennnnnnsive
Basically impossible to repair when you inevitably snap the tip on it
Only available in low-mid weight rods

They're great small-water rods, for all the same reasons a fiberglass rod is a great small-water rod. But they're a really shitty general-use rod.

>>1088575
For that price, you might want to just get one of those $40 Shakespeare lake & pond starter kits that come with a couple hooks and weights. If you spend $75 on a rod and reel, you will get something wayyyy better but it would be too confusing to buy all of the proper stuff from Amazon without somebody standing right next to you who fishes the area.

Otherwise Pastebin in the OP has some good rod+ reel combos for <$100. You could buy something like an Abu Cardinal SX combo and then go to your local tackle shop or Bass Pro with $50 and ask them to set you up with the basics that will work in your area.

>>1088575
Also if you're still here, just remember that you will be pretty safe eating fish from almost anywhere if you use common sense. Apex predators are the most contaminated, don't eat organ meats, and eat something other than just fish.

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I worked way too hard for this little shit

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I found a plethora of ponds with fish in them. Some of which I've fished before but never seen activity untill today. Saw some decent size ones surfacing for bugs. The thing that shocked me most was the ferocity of these little fish. They were by far the most aggressive bass I've ever encountered. This one here came straight up from under it, swollowed it, shot straight out of the water and landed back down head first zinging line out of my hand. It was incredible. Once again I didn't have my camera with me :(
>>1088727
Ok yeah I'll pass lol. Maybe ill get one eventually down the road.

>>1088784
dont get bamboo. theyre cool, but fiberglass is better. there is a reason bamboo died out to graphite and glass. it is kept alive solely by elitists

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Today was a good day

>>1088802
>wooly bugger
>spin gear
>uglystick
>reeeeeeeee

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>>1088802

>>1088807
>>1088811
I don't get what's so bad, it's effectively the same as just tying a bugger onto a jighead.
[spoiler] Why haven't I seen people tying fly patterns onto jigheads before, seems pretty good looking[/spoiler]

>>1088686

>I wonder how it would compair to my st.croix avid.

I know this sounds crazy but: even though I have never used a st. Croix Avid I honestly can not imagine it coming close to the performance-to-price ratio of the Echo Base. Yes I am being a bit of a fanboy but it's for a reason.

>>1088807
>when you forget your fly rod at home but still manage to save the trip

>>1088814
>tying fly patterns onto jigheads before
ive done it
>I don't get what's so bad
because its sacrilege, heresy, and perversion!
>>1088820
>being too stupid to remember to bring the core piece of equipment for fly fishing

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>>1088828
yeah yeah, it's bad and wrong and all, but does it catch fish?
[spoiler] got any pics of them? [/spoiler]

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>>1088828
Its not like its that hard to use sinkers and floats to fish most flies on spinner gear

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>>1088828
Not hard at all

>>1088840
pretty hard. its like going to go on a bicycle ride and getting there and "oh, no, i forgot my entire bicycle!"
its too ridiculous for even the white people who trip over nothing in infomercials.
"are you tired of always going for a run, but then when you get to the park you realize you completely forgot your pants?"
"never forget your car for a saterday afternoon drive again with this handy gadget"
"oh no, i was going to cook dinner, but i left the food -and- my baby in the grocery store parking lot!"

>tfw tried to go fishin but got distracted by new Latina who likes me
Finally gave up on the other one and got back to doin lots of fishin and funposting again. As soon as that happens a new qt latina comes into the picture. Life is suffering. Let's hope this girl is less of a pain in the ass than the last one. Although now that I'm tryin to work on new one, I have a feeling somehow the old one will come back into the picture and throw a wrench into my plans.

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>>1088814
>Why haven't I seen people tying fly patterns onto jigheads beforE

>lrn2hairjig.jpeg

>>1088863
These look really nice, do you guys think they're any better than normal jigs for panfish and trout or just eyecandy?
https://www.hawkenfishing.com/product-p/wb1.htm

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>>1088855
Point was that its easy to fish flies with spinning gear, yeah I fucked up forgetting my fly rod, but once you know what good presentation looks like its not hard to get that presentation with a spinning rod and sinkers or floats

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>>1087781
>>1087779
>>1087129
>2017
>not spinning deer hair and rubber leg cock
get on my level peasants

>>1088605
I play Minecraft too

The guy at my local tackle shop told me today that Sufix 832 is designed to sink. Can anyone confirm? I've only ever used the 10 pound version and it seems to float fine

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>>1088814
I do. Even fly fish with 1/80 jigs. For my marabou jigs with spinning gear I'll wrap some hackle or marabou around like hackle occasionally

>>1088865
The smaller you go for sunnies the better. Hook size needs to be small. I know you can catch them with larger hooks but the smaller the more likely the hook set.
That said there arent many plastics that go that small (there are such on chuckanddebs ) making tying materials better.

>>1088881
I saw Bass Pro recently got some more small panfish stuff. Not for fly fishing, but crickets and shit that were rigged already and looked real fun with the UL. Seems like for bluegill and Mayans, if they aren't hitting small shit like baby Rapalas or Mepps, they will still go for some tiny stuff like those Mini Mites or the 1" Gulp minnows.

>>1088101
Why didn't they just pull the boat up river with the guys in it?

>>1088883
probably more liability than anything

>>1088900
>>1088883
why didnt they just load the guys in to the rescue boat then tow the boat out of there while they were next to it?

>>1088882
http://chuckanddeb.com/listing_of_all_soft_plastic_bait.htm

Go hear and scroll down to panfish baits for a good idea. There's these stonefly nymph plastics that are hardly two cms (under Mike's baits)

>>1088875
I've not got deer hair on hand and ill be damned if im wasting elk hair on that. I also suck at spinning
>>1088881
Going smaller than a 16 is actually bad with sunnies, they can easily shake a #18 or smaller

How long did it take you guys to get decent at fly casting? I have been out 5 times. for hours at a time, and I can only cast like 15 ft, and it still sort of bunches up at the end of my tippet. My tippet is pretty long, could that cause me problems?

>>1088575
it'd be best to go to a tackle store and ask them for cheap combo and gear to try fishing. and they might be able to give you something for a common fish near you and set up a rig if they're not busy.
that or just go to a garage sale/buy used, or ask family members/freinds. could find a tackle box/rods for under 100 dollars with decent gear though probably old if you look for used, or a family member who fishes probably has some shitty combo they don't care for and would let you have

here they also can give a sheet with list of the legal sizes and different types of fish so you know what you caught, and has a measuring thing on the side of the page
and can get a booklet on invasive species (like carp, which here is illegal to release back in to waters, they wreck shit). also like others said unless you bypass laws by being indigenous/native (dunno in america), you need a fishing license.. best to get one even if you just want to go fishing for an hour to try it. if you like it, which you probably will after catching some, you'll need it.. and they fund stuff to help make fishing better for people

How good would fishing in the storm surge be? Almost in the path of the hurricane here.

>>1088828
>its sacrilege, heresy, and perversion!
Seeing as how this is coming from a gay furry, I honestly don't know how to take it.

>>1088879
Regular 832 floats, but they make lead core 832 as well, and that will.
Be sure to check the label on your line if you're in a place where lead core line is a thing.

>>1089016
Probably not very good. Plus the wind makes it hard to cast.

>>1089048
Just be sure to cast downwind. Problem solved.
You're welcome.

>>1088957
I use #12s and don't have problems.

I never knew too small is bad for maintaining hookups

>>1088984
I'm crap at getting distance too. I could get it far but it'll take a lot of false cast / roll cast.
At that point it's no fun, which is why I'd use spinning gear in large rivers

Do Americunts not catch squid? Every fishing thread, there's no talk about squid. Any aussies in this thread?

>>1088984
Can't remember how long it took for me but I will give you some hints to get better.
Watch some vids and read some articles about HOW to cast well. Then head out onto your lawn and practice with the tips/guide from said articles/videos in mind. You could ofc. also do this by the water but there you have more distractions. The point is, practice your cast and focus on improving technique, not on catching fish.
If available in your area, hire a casting instructor or sign up for a course if you feel like it could be helpful. Yes, they generally cost money but could save you many hours of frustration and practice. Odds are an instructor can tell you exactly what you need to improve. Eg. your backcast might feel fine to you when you are casting but any decent instructor will see very fast if you need to work on that part.
Generally speaking new flyfishers tend to whisk back and forth way too fast and go way too far back in the backcast.

>>1089058
WInd is blowing onshore. There aren't any fish on the land.

I presume pop-up boilies float? Are they for surface fishing or does it just mean they rise from deeper water after casting and eventually reach the surface?

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>>1088984
9 years

>>1089016
are you inland or coastal? inland the bite turns on. on the coast the bite shuts down. The barometric pressure can decide your day.

>>1089088
yes

>>1088984
Decent? About 6 hours. No-bullshit legit good? Still working on that 10 years later.

>>1088984
Probably 2 hours of videos, then a few weeks of pracice. Im a year and a half in and can usually hit 80 feet with my 3 forks 8 weight and air cel line. I think if I got a rod that was actually fast, and a line that runs more than $30 I could hit 100 easy but im content with 80 for now.
>>1089040
It proves how bad what he did is. I know heresy and perversion, so when even I call it so, you know it's bad.
>>1089060
Its really only for panfish because of how they fight. Trout are fine with #20 hooks, its easy to keep consistent presure on them. Bluegill pull easy and will let a lot of slack in a line very quickly.
>>1089171
This. I still get a lot of trailing loops.

>>1089177
I see. So basically a sunnie could displace itself 6 feet away in two seconds. Meaning it could throw that much slack in your barbless hookset. Luckily I don't see myself going any smaller than what I got.

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>>1089088
Yeah but I don't do much Sea fishing, I live on the Murray River.

>>1089088
Where you squidding mate? Been having a slow season here on the Gold Coast, been getting into a few though

>>1089336
Big redfin, hope you killed it

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Can anyone ID this thing for me? He was hitting small online spinners and jigs. Pulled this one up on a beetle jig. pulled up bluegill on jigs about every 3rd or 4th cast in a stocked pond. Good day. Bluegill were good size and super aggressive.

>>1089378
ladyfish

>>1089378
Looks like a Ladyfish, try starting with that family.

How detrimental are swivel snaps really? Do they effect lures action or just add more things to scare off the fish?

>>1089379
>>1089380
Wow wtf I guess it is. I think the pond might be a little brackish so that's how they survive in there? That's fucked up I think someone must have dumped a few in there. Should I call the game warden? I don't use them anymore I think they might scare fish because it's too much extra. I was walleye fishing awhile back however and it was fine I mainly used them for big plugs at night so it wasn't an issue but with small lures I wouldn't use them.

>>1089376
That's a given, I love eating them.

>>1089383
All Elops species have leptocephalus larvae and can get into pretty much any waterway that's even vaguely connected to the ocean. They cannot breed in fresh (or brackish) water, so even if somebody dumped them in there (which is unlikely), they shouldn't become a major issue.

In Australia we call them Giant Herring and they're a well sought after sportfish, especially in SEQ. Not uncommon to get them in larger golf course lakes, along with our species of tarpon.

>>1089388
It's a private pond near a coastal area btw. That's good to hear. I was mainly worried they might be competitors for bass which are usually decent in size there and bluegill.

>>1089390
I don't think anything can compete with bluegill anon.

>>1088984
>>1088984

Update. Went out do a parking lot and messed around. I can cast 50ft but its still sort of bunching up at the the end of my tippet instead of being a straight line. And I have no idea how to catch trout in a trout pond.

Hey guys I'm new, fill me in. Do we like Bepis?

>>1089419
Bepis has some flaws but overall seems like the bro of fishing generals

>>1089419
He's a fishing god!

>>1089428
And Lord of the Dinks

>>1089375
all around vic. prime time squid season right now here.

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>>1089419
he a cool dude for being black..He's over here on my boat, we about to smoke a blunt and take some tequila shots an watch the fight

>>1089431
I think you mean Lord of the Thots

>>1089419
let me know if we figure it out

WTF is this guy talking about? He was catching a mess of flounder and told me to next time use a "scented" Berkley jig head. I asked him if he meant the lures themselves.

Nope, swore to me up and down the jigs are "scented". Was I getting my chain yanked?

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>>1089419
I like him alright but sometimes he says terribly hurtful things.

>>1089476
He probably can't tell the difference between jig and lure

Berkley gulp mullet is pretty popular for flounder.

All memes aside why exactly are people so adamant about killing every Snakehead they catch? From what I've seen and read they taste fine, fight good and get big as well. Why would I want to catch another bass over that?

>>1089510
Invasive species means you have to kill it

>4 days
>thread just hitting 200 replies
Where were you when fishing was kill?

>>1089510
such is the dilemma of invasive species ecology. sometimes things get introduced and the effects are not as bad as people thought they would be, or they end up providing another sport fishery.
we still supposed to kill them, but honestly i am not surprised that anglers are slowly becoming more interested in keeping them around. they aren't going anywhere anyway, in the potomac at least except other bay tribs.

>>1089514
i like to think its because the posters on this board are actually /out/side doing something most of the time. saturday mornings are pure dead zones in this thread.

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>>1089532

Hah, funny you say that because I wasn't having any luck fishing on Sat. morning so I mossied on a few miles deeper I to the wilderness area to scout some bunting spots, found pic related and a lot of hog sign.

tl;dr I think you are right about people actually doing stuff.

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>>1089532
>people on this board
>actually going outside

Cmon now

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>>1089419
Literally the worst fisherman that posts in these threads. He couldn't catch a good bass or any good fish for that matter to save his life.

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>>1089476
Probably just retarded.

>>1089510
Once you catch a few, you start to realize why they are such a threat to the local waterways. They are much more aggressive than other freshwater predators, they will hunt in weeds and shallow water where smaller fish hide and bass n stuff won't go, and they can breathe air and tolerate water conditions that would kill off other fish. Plus I believe they breed twice a year and have tons of fry and guard them well.

Seems like freshwater fish in the US are fairly docile compared to other places in the world. The competition in Asia where the sneks come from must be more fierce so the sneks have adapted some ways to survive that are overkill for US waters.

>>1089514
Kek. I have been working a ton and was at Disney World yesterday so no fishin for me.

>>1089552
>pepsi fugged anon's gf and mom

>>1089514
Out fishing.

Duh.

>>1089514
You can't fish and shitpost at the same time, not if you want to enjoy each to the fullest.

>>1089419
He's fine he just needs to stop bitching as much.

>>1089597
+1

>>1088031
for the love of god consult a fish biologist / lake restoration company before you dump a bunch of random fucking rocks in your lake. Many fish prefer rocky bottoms for laying eggs but the size/shape/smoothness of these rocks is VERY specific for each species

>>1088575
fishing with bobbers and/or spinners is level one fishing. Go to Walmart/sportsmans/bass pro/cabelas and ask the guy who works there what to get and what to do. Dont buy more than a $40 rod, you wont be able to tell the difference. If you buy a nice reel, take care of it.

>>1088575
river fish are fine as long as you don't subsist on them, unless your river is gross as fuck, then call a Fish and Wildlife office

>>1088623
Do not learn to fly fish on small creeks tho. best to learn on a large river or pond/lake

How do I catch pike in shallow rivers now? Been throwing spoons and jitterbugs to no avail for a couple days now. I know they're here.

>>1089629
>>1088031
A lot of lakes, they are dumping old christmas trees in so it provides cover for smaller fish. But hopefully they consulted their DNR first

>>1089636
Jerkbait at dusk? Idk, I don't do pike much but if it's anything like gar who are always cruising near the top, they seem to hit more later in the day and are very opportunistic and only like to go for artificial stuff if it looks really close to a baitfish on its last legs.

>be me
>tempratures are going down
>and leaves will soon start falling
>the cool crisp air hints at autumn, and with autumn comes the steel head run
but suddenly, a realization strikes me
>i have exactly no steelhead flies
>no stones, no eggs, no wooly buggers, or zonkers
i gotta get to the fly shop!

>>1089647
Yeah that's just a feel-good move though. Takes about 2 months before they're one solid mass of filamentous algae or rock snot and don't provide cover for anything.

>>1089707
>temperatures are going down
Where the fuck do you live?
>leaves will stoon start falling
Not for another 2.5 months...
>cool crisp air hints at autumn
It hit 101*F and smelled like a mixture of roadkill and hot asphalt today

Yes, I'm north of the Mason-Dixon line.

>>1087182
>sea trout

Dude that looks like a Brown Trout and not a sea run brown, which is exceedingly rare.

t. Salmonid biologist

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>>1087524

>>1087957
Very interesting life stage of the organism that is a maturing Brook Trout, he's just about to finish losing his parr marks.

I work extensively in the Pac NW with brook/bull trout. You can differentiate them via the bull trouts dorsal vermiculation and the bull trouts pale dorsal fin. The two species can hybridize and they produce an infertile hybrid. The bull trout is endangered in much of it's native NW habitat and the brook trout is a large reason behind that via their relatively high aggression, rapid sexual maturation, and ability to function as a markedly more successful "sneaker" male and shoot jizz all over some fat bull trouts egg pocket without being noticed by a male bull trout.

>>1089378
Where you at? Looks like a ladyfish, but, if you're out west I'd guess something closer to a smelt, those little "minnow" type of fish are hard for me to ID, even as a fish biologist.

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Male bull trout on a spawning run last year.

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Research camp that I captain for tagging tens of thousands of Chinook salmon parr shortly before smolting.

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training a new scientist on salmonid research, running a rotary screw trap for the purpose of enumerating (via Peterson methodology) outmigrating sockeye salmon smolt.

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Comparison of outmigrating sockeye smolt vs chinook parr

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Teaching little kids about fish not too long ago

"WHAT'S THE BIGGEST FISH YOU EVER SAW!?!?"

lol

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Couple of the crew tagging the first Spring Chinook returning adult back in February.

The kid looks like he has just seen his first pussy.

>>1089716
Where do you work as a salmonoids biologist
T. Someone who has worked with salmanoids the past few years not technically a bio though

>>1089739
Lots of places, mostly WA/OR though.

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>>1089734
That's pretty cool anon. Seems like a pretty based job. How's the pay?

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Running the knife saw thing for a whale disentangling venture. We eventually freed it, but, it was someone else that sawed it free. They freed it while I was out trolling for salmon right beside them, breddy kewl.

>>1089747
62K/year

>>1089744
Fair enough I'm in the northeast been working with browns rainbows brookies tigers and Kokanee's for the past 3 years
Most of the work at the hatchery is production numbers but there's good amount t of work around a few strains of brown trout
Ive got personal Interest In Brook trout to be honest

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Went out and tried for some afternoon browns. Saw some interesting things. Learned some stuff. Didn't catch any trout. Only one creek chub. I had one trout follow in my fly and one other one ate it but popped off while I was fighting it.
>>1089635
Too late, I'm addicted
>>1089707
I think it might be time for me to retire my 4wt for a bit. The guy who has a camp next to ours runs a salmon charter on the lake and he told me the fish have been coming in the river early and often. The only thing I'm worried about is A. Being somewhere alone where there isn't 50 other fags all ass to ankles standing next to me B. If I actually do hook into one I'm not gunna have a clue how to land it
>>1089709
It's been mid 70's during the day and low 50's during the night here for the past week. If it weren't for the bugs it would be top comfy weather

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>>1089751
I supervise a kokanee project right now, the organisms are just starting to stage in this area, we go out and seine them up on a boat and then floy tag all of them to do mark/recapture spawning estimations on them in the tributaries.

A strangely variable organism, they go through wild population fluctuations out here and there's not a strong correlation between spawning years as calculated via sibling regression analysis. With a multitude of salmonids, even sockeye (still o. nerka but a sea run version obviously) you can do sibling regression analysis to get an estimation of next years 3 year olds by enumerating this years 2 year olds and then extrapolating that information via historical percent contributions to spawning run relative to age. In most places there is a fairly stable age composition of spawners with a dominant year class. Kokanee still prove difficult to predict though.

We've tried to use SARs too (Smolt to adult returns) in order to calculate the estimated adult return run sizes via enumerating kok smolts via peterson mark/recapture and then comparing that to historical analysis of smolt outmigration numbers and then the adult return size 3 years later (the dominant age at spawning) and still no strong correlation.

Just a pretty strange fish that's hard to predict. We just do same year spawning run prediction to help set fisheries via hydroacoustic analyses, you can pretty well enumerate what's out there at that current time via that methodology.

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>>1089761
We only deal with the Kokanee's in the fall desu where we go trap them all from a few lakes and bring them in to strip them of eggs and Milt
Toothy fuckers always getting g caught up in our nets etc
But variable is a good word we pull all of ours from 2 locations and despite being same year class one of the ponds produces <1 pounders and the other pond produces 2+
Atleast numbers are usually similar year to year

>>1089709
Think Red's in upstate NY if memory serves.

>>1089709
North east ohio.
>>1089753
>I'm not gunna have a clue how to land it
2 options
If you plan on taking it home, just beach it. Get it between you and the shore, and pull/spook it in to water too shallow to swim, then spike it. You've already fucked the slime and it will probably die after beaching, so only do that if you intend to harvest it.
2: your best option is to net it, ideally bring a buddy. Use a deep, preferably rubber net and scoop it in head first.

>>1089750
That's not a bad gig at all if your travel expenses get covered.

Should I get over my autism of buying American instead of saving money and buying Chinese made stuff?

>>1089883
Yes

>>1089883
Depends what it is.

For rods & reels, not much is made in the US anyway but it's worth going with a known brand. I like Abu because I know that the reel will work properly for years and if something breaks 10 years from now I will be able to order parts for it.

>>1089891
It's painful because I want St. Croix rods but why buy one when Fenwick is just as good but at half the price. A guy at my local tackle shop suggested Falcon rods but I don't seem to like their power/action combos

>>1089894
Get the fenwick, I love mine

>>1089893
I plan on getting Abu reels from now on because all reels seem to be made in China or Vietnam.

>>1089897
I'm starting to consider it more and more. $100 for a high quality rod with a lifetime warranty? Hell yeah

>>1089897
This.

My ONLY complaint with Fenwick is the same complaint I have with St. Croix. They're a little generous with their action ratings, and I don't believe they make what many would consider a true fast action.

Some of the best crappie and walleye rods made, also very good finesse-technique bass rods.

>>1089925
+1
my fly rod says moderate fast, but its closer to moderate than moderate fast. its a fast moderate, not a moderate fast.

>>1089893
>>1089897
>>1089925
Any of you guys know about the Falcon rods though? They're not supposed to be a huge brand but they supposedly have a cult following.

Only complaint is that all of their rods are listed by "taper". As in medium rods are moderate taper, MH are mod-fast, and heavy rods are fast taper

>>1089894
http://www.cabelas.com/product/home/rods-reels-combos-sale|/pc/105625080/c/157613580/fenwick-silverhawk-ii-casting-rods/2434187.uts?slotId=10

These are on sale. I'm going back and forth on getting one.

>>1089942
I've never seen one in person, sorry.

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Anyone have any experience with the cabelas lsi?

>>1088717
I only check 4chan while I'm at work sorry for the late thanks...

I might look into dumping rocks this winter when it freezes, thanks!

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http://nypost.com/2017/08/27/man-goes-fishing-in-flooded-house-after-hurricane-harvey/

>Texans are fishing inside their house
>tfw you will never catch bass when ever you feel like it

>>1090113
>why even live?

>>1090113
What kind of (if it is) cat is that? Dorsal fin looks weird.

>>1090184
Looks like a pleco.

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>>1090184
>>1090198
That's what I was thinking. They are all over here because dumb people constantly buy them to put in their 5gal aquariums and then when they get 12" long within a couple months, they just release them into the nearest pond and nothing else preys on them.

>>1090210
get a frog gig and start gigging them

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>take /nofish/ friend fishing for the first time yesterday
>we're both pulling in dozens of 1.5-2lb bass out of a county park pond
>end up with pic related, best bass I've seen out of this county park ever
fast forward to today
>go back with fly rod throwing Clousers for crappie, hoping for crappie dinner
>motherfucking bass fingerlings won't leave the fly alone for 5 fucking seconds
>end up catching 15, under-4" bass
>no crappie
>no bluegill
>not even a green sunfish

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>>1087090
You can catch anything on a fly rod if you believe in yourself.

>>1088643
Thanks, I'll check that out. And that's always good advice for tool buying

>>1090336
can i catch a gf?

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I forgot I ordered this stuff. It's always fun coming home to presents for yourself.

>>1090343
Instead of a fly attach a minimum of $1000 cash to the line. You're welcome.

>>1090351
Ayyy you got the Rip Stop. Forgot I bought those. And those Yo-Zuri spinner things are goofy lookin.

>>1090247
We talked about this before. I really should.

>>1090343
Might as well try.

Now I got this new latina and she has my phone number but I gotta find that fine line between patience and harassment that works out for me. I know she likes me but I might have to show her I'm not a chad first.

Post good amazon deals and general amazon things you recommend relating to fishing

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So I took a stroll over to the golf course to try some more ponds I've never fished and I got to this pretty unique one. It's a complete circle acting as a moat almost for a small island that is the green for that hole. There is very little open water that I could work a Mepps™ But on my third cast I caught pic related. How In the absolute fuck would this get in here...? it's a tiny ass pond that has never been stocked ever. Not to mention of all the ponds I've tried (I tried them all) this was the only one with these in there. Same with another pond but instead of pickeral it's the only pond I could find that has perch in it. It's hurting my head trying to make sense of this

>>1090415
Flooding? The story I always hear is the eggs get stuck to birds' feet n shit.

>>1090343
Of course
Fly fishing screams
>I have more dollars than sense and am so autistic I will never notice it if you cheat on me
Women go for that like catnip.
Or at least they do long enough for the prenup to expire. Then they take you to the cleaners.

Welp good thing it is almost hunting season, because my saltwater spots got rekt.

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>>1090417
If there was flooding (there hasn't been any flooding where I live the entire time I've been alive) wouldn't you think they would be in some of the other ponds near it? The only thing that makes sense is the birds brining them since it's only a little under 3 miles away. The probability of that happening is probably crazy though idk

Here's a perch from the other pond that is 300 feet away from the one with pickerel

Pickerel anon here. After all summer of not catching one, I finally got one. Plus it was 20" and about 2.5 pounds to boot. Way more fun than any bass.

Speaking of, as it starts to cool down I'm going to target pike in my local reservoirs. My main point of attack will be jerkbaits.

That being said, I want a jerkbait soecific rod. Question is, medium or medium heavy? Moderate, moderate fast, or fast? I already know that I'll want a mid speed reel with monofilament or braid. My train of thought was moderate/braid or fast/mono. What does F&T recommend?

>>1090441
I love my 7'1" medium fast for jerkbaits. I have a 6:2:1 ratio reel to match. For line I go straight flouro. I know some may recommend otherwise and thats fine but thats just the way I like it. You could run just braid in the 20-30# range if you want and be fine to

>>1087984
eh, those things spook fish and its still much more difficult to get a natural drift than mending a fly line. if you're gonna fish flies, use a fly rod.

>>1090343
probably. intelligent athletic outdoorsy fly fishermen are more attractive than dumb fat redneck bait fishermen.

>>1090447
>intelligent athletic outdoorsy fly fishermen
Have you not seen the Skid posts?

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>it's another game of minorities or rednecks!

>>1090368
Yeah imma try out them yo zuries in a bit.

>>1090415
are the ponds natural?

>>1090468
>are the ponds natural?
>Golf course
Pick one.

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Those dummies finally got it right

>>1090468
No>>1090471

>>1090465
Minorities.
Rednecks generally take their fish home to clean and eat.

>>1090472
Nice and shiny my favorite color.

>>1090446
+1

Hey guys I got into fishing just for catching salmon before I learned I can only really get them during spawn.

Now that we're getting close to the run here in Toronto region I'm wondering if I'll need to know how to fly fish to catch them or if I can just throw annoying bright lures.

Should I just hire a guide? Any advice?

>>1090351
let us know what you think of thos knuckle baits
>>1090411
ive yet to find any good fishing related shit on sale on amazon other than fish scales

>>1090482
I have kin in Alaska but I do not know shit about salmon other then I hate the taste and you can snag them. That being said if you have the money to spend on a guided trip do it. Most of use have been fishing for years and had kin that taught us when we where young. If you are new to the sport (or old for that matter) there is no shame in having a professional show you some new tricks.

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>>1087085
Does the weed guard actually help? Should I just remove it? Only places I see myself using football jigs is around drop offs and ledges and shit.

>>1090499
They should call it a stick guard, not a weed guard. Doesn't do shit vs. algae, coontail, reeds, etc but keeps you from setting the hook on tree branches.

You should trim it to where it's even with or juuuuuust past the tip of the hook, and cut it off at an angle so the end is parallel with the hook shank.

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>>1090465
Rednecks did that mess.
>minorities utilize the entire fish

>>1090351
I like those glide jigs. they skip well and add some flash in dirty water. dont over load them or they wont swim. had stripers bending them out so pic related or johnson minnows now.

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Only caught the little dude today. hopefully in a couple days they'll have moved up with the water line, I think most of them are out deep and not eating much right now.

That's assuming we don't get the leftover of this hurricane rain.

>>1090441
Medium for sure. I'd go with a moderate or moderate fast action.

>>1090475
Sounds about right

>>1090496
They're alright. They do cast really far and the knuckle thing moves around a lot, but I feel like it won't be as effective as a regular spinner bait. Once the shad start spawing I'll try it again and see if I like it.

>>1090513
>dont over load them or they wont swim

I tried them and wasn't getting much action. I thought that might have had something to do with it, but I didn't have any smaller flukes. I'll probably get some bigger ones next time so I can use the full size flukes.

>>1090520
>That's assuming we don't get the leftover of this hurricane rain.
You should not get much of anything.

>>1090520
try a big jitterbug

>>1090527
Dope. I haven't been paying too much attention to what the storm is actually doing. I'm kinda pissed because I have vacation days to use in the couple weeks and I was gonna go to the coast.

>>1090528
Kek maybe I should

>>1090533
Tell me about it all my spots have been leveled and my home town got rektd.

>>1090482
Hey another Toronto anon!

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>been fishing all afternoon
>can't find a good spot, structure isn't producing
>enter a creek full of leaf litter and eelgrass, 3 feet deep at most
>fishing a grub with some bucktail on a jighead
>first substantial hit of the day
>wew lad it's a good run
>get one look at a nice largemouth
>he throws it
>fuck
>go in, eat
>come back out in the late evening
>water is like glass
>put on a jitterbug and go back to the same spot
>big dramatic hit
>it's the same fucking fish

pretty good day lads

>>1090575
better than mine
>Go out before work in the morning
>Water is glass
>4' all the way across, can see everything
>Huge fallen trees in the water every 30 feet or less
>Fish 4 of them thoroughly
>Nothing but 4-5" yellow perch
maybe if I kept a dozen I could have scaled and cooked them whole with some peppers and other veggies, but I didn't really wanna go through it

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>>1090575
wow thats savage..
how did you cook it?

>>1090615
I was right next to the dock so I just took it in for a picture and threw it back.

I generally don't keep bass above 15 inches if I can help it

>>1090578
Sounds like good water. What were you fishing with?

>>1090618
couple of 1-1/2" minnow plugs, a mepps black fury and some jigs.

>>1090618
>I generally don't keep bass above 15 inches if I can help it
good on you, keeping the "big fish" genes in the water.

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>>1090343
I think I am finally figuring this out.
>have minimal confidence
>don't be completely obese
>if you wear glasses, git contacts
Can't believe this girl hit me back. I didn't even have to show her pictures of my PB LMB!

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Will we ever hit 310???

Longest bread ever.

>>1090632
>>1090618
>not eating a fish that tastes good
>especially when it's not that big and in quantities that don't hurt populations

You really ought to.
It, more than anything else, is what will keep people fishing for bass long after bass fishing isn't fashionable anymore.

They taste good.

>>1090709
idk pepsi

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>>1090731
3 more

Thanks for the bump

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>>1090762

>>1088486
>>1088483

Would it be possible to collect tiny critters from the wild and shove them in an aquarium? Lately I've been getting this massive urge to make an aquarium, but I don't want to own faggy sparklefish from Walmart. I want to make it look like a riverbed with crawdads and minnows and shit. Is such a feat doable or would /out/ not recommend it?

>>1090768
It's doable according to /an/ it's just that some of the fish need more space than others and some will murder the shit out of others.

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>>1090764
>>1090764
>>1090764
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>>1090727
im going to cite redfish populations and average elephant tusk size over time. with this. redfish have a maximum and minimum size limit. there are tons of big ones, the ones that you want your picture taken with, bull drum 0+ inches long. there are still plenty of eating-size ones. then with elephants, over time, hey have evolved to have smaller and smaller tusks, because the ones with big tusks get shot. if we do the same with fish, always keep the big ones, then we will, in the same way the big tusk gene in elephants is dying, kill the big fish gene. plus, i live in ohio. how many 5+ pound bass do you think the average reservoir holds. i've only ever seen something like 2 in my life and neither of them were caught by me. if both those fish were harvested, then their genes were removed from the gene pool, and suddenly, the next spawning season, the genes for fish that peak at 4lb is the biggest. then we start taking the 4 lb bass. then soon 3 lb bass, then 2 lb bass, then out of any given fishery, 12 inches is worth writing home about. however, if we keep bass 12-18 inches long, and nothing over that, suddenly the genes for 4-5 pound bass are much more successful, and we get more big bass out of the fishery over time.

>>1090418
>t. poorfag who can't into real fishing

>>1087154

Is that a red? Do you have a lot of luck with those flukes? Gulf or Atlantic?