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First for post crashes

what bike should i get if i want cute paintballing gf?

>>17380790
>tfw GoPro was dead when I rektd

>>17380801
Something like a dirtbike or dual sport most likely.

>>17380801
Sumo with stickers on it

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>>17380801

You can only post in this thread if you have dual front brakes

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S H O C K E D

(speaking of, I get that symmetry is nice and all, but boy it looks like it'd be a lot easier to work on rear suspensions if they were set up like this than with the usual monoshock design)

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>>17380770
Who else gn masterrace?

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>>17380847
You are not the boss of me now!
You are not the boss of me now!
And you are not so big (for you).

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>>17380801
You should get a real gun maybe a stainless synthetic 10/22 , and an xr125. I have this combo, fucking bunny destroying machine.

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>>17380821
This.

>>17380852
Traditional monoshock is actually pretty easy, especially if you have naked.

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Where's everybody ridin' this weekend? Thinking of cruising the Fraser Canyon Saturday morning.

>>17380915
>90% chances of thunderstorms
I think I'll just stay inside.

>>17380915
Would love to visit the local curves, especially when the roads around my model year 2017 girlfriend are both curvy and unused, but I'm waiting on a part from China.

>>17380915
Down the beach, get me a delicious possum dinner to eat over the fire.

>>17380873
Savage a shit.

>>17380873
Third world tier

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Finally got a bike again after not having one for two years. Managed to pick up a new gsxr600 for a reasonable price. Back in the day I had an old cbr600rr that I rode damn near every day for a few years. Just happy as fuck to be on a bike again.

>>17381022
gud stuff, get a fender eliminator kit, swap exhaust with yoshimura or akraprovic and you're good to go. do a trackway at some point

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>>17380915
Just got back from an early morning ride to beat the heat. Pretty day out here

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>>17381052

>>17380892
yeah, I'd believe it.

real problem for me right now is lifting the rear up--I don't think I can just go under the engine block, since there's an exhaust there--and of course that would be a problem with exposed shock too.

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>>17381062
And one more cuz I'm bored.

Love u all

>>17381050
Yeah I plan on doing all the same basic stuff I did to my old CBR.
And I'd love to do some track days, I there's one an hour away or so.

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>>17380852
>easier

yes it is easier and cheaper which is why a lot of budget bikes use direct connections between swingarm and frame.

its also a lot worse because it severely restricts suspension travel compared to a link system.

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guess who crashed lads
on holiday in corfu (greece) with gf (pic related)
obviously i ride, have a zxr400 back home. rented a 125 scooter and was cruising around, she wanted to have a go, so i let her drive for a bit, me sitting on the back.

fairly chill roads, lightly twisting through a lovely foresty area. was porbably going about 50kph and we came upon a really gentle left hand bend and she obviously panicked and just forgot to turn / lean. I reached over her left shoulder and pushed the handlebar a bit to try and get us round the corner a bit which i think did help to an extent, but we still went into the gutter bit at the side of the road and must've basically just lowsided on loose gravel / bits of tree etc. slid a fairly long way, both of us were just in tee shirts and shorts, silly i know. She had 6 stiches, in her eyebrow and knee, somehow managed to slide on her face. Apparently i had the reflex to put out my hands, so there's a patch on my left palm which was ground down to the fat and my left knee is pretty deeply ground down too but i'll live.

moral of the story here? 1) wear leathers and 2) maybe dont let unlicensed inexperienced people drive your bike.

Successfully extracted stripped oil filter bolt this morning
Glad I could finally replace it and change my oil proper

>>17381138
Ouch, sorry man. Tell qt to get well soon, and ATGATT.

>>17381138
>Letting women drive
>Ever
The crash also somehow made her fat and ugly.

>>17381093
>yellow ER-6n
what is this sorcery
where

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>>17380770
So dbt how did I do?

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>>17381022
>>17381050
Nice baiku. Fender eliminator is definitely a must.

>>17381022
You might want to look into tinting the turn signal cover, it'll look even better.

>>17381138
Shitsux but both of you are retarded.

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>>17380852
I have it

Best commuter highway (70mph) sport bike. Go.

Pls?

Literally any bike can do that.

>>17381138
Less than zero fucks given.

>moral of the story here? 1) wear leathers and 2) maybe dont let unlicensed inexperienced people drive your bike.
You knew this before the crash yet didn't follow your own knowledge/instinct. Also, how is her face all busted up? Either no helmet at all or an open face helmet. If that's the case my care-o-meter has gone to -9000.

>>17381233
Was told a 300cc bike wouldn't last long doing it if it's at 7k rpm of 10.5k redline

Baiku and I are going on our first camping trip together tonight! So how do you guys handle transporting a fishing pole on baiku?

>>17381227
Best commuter: NC
Best sportbike: RSV4

they're as different bikes as they get

>>17381238
>CRAAAAAAWLING IIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIN
tone it down, 9fag

>>17381251
>Italian bike
>best anything

>>17380790
how did that happen?
i've ridden for 15 years and i have yet to drop a bike or crash. (knock on wood)
used to go on 200km journeys on dirt roads with some rivers in between. there is only one simple rule i followed. and that is to never lean when there is any sign of moisture or loose gravel. vid related is a road i used to rode through when i was a teenager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeg1_yXJiuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggzn2a9INlc

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>>17381250
ADD
MORE
RATCHET STRAAAAAAAPS
seriously, they solve all problema

>>17381254
Given how japscrap has been thoroughly btfo for the last 3 gens by the s1k and now the v4 you shouldn't really imply jack shit

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>>17381238
I know, I know. nobody wears any sort of protective gear there though, it was 32c and 90% of people didnt even wear helmets. She did have an open face helmet yeah, that was all they offered us at the rental place. Was doubly shit because it came off in the crash anyway. luckily neither of us hit our heads badly

>>17381263
Wet ground, trying to go fast and street tires.

Why people think carbs are hard to clean? The jets on my VFR were clogged with dirt, so I took out my jets, soaked them in isopropyl alcohol for an hour or so, and put them back in. I was thinking it would be a nightmare.Carbs essentially work like toilets.

The hardest part was getting to the actual carburetors themselves. Or dealing with stripped screws.

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>>17381318

>>17381320
Carbs being terrible is just a meme, most of dbt have never even owned a bike with them

>>17381324
What tires?

>>17381339

How strange. I can see how balancing them would be a pain in the ass, but mine have been treating me just fine.

>>17381366
>I can see how balancing them would be a pain in the ass, but mine have been treating me just fine.
balancing is literally a 2 hour job. It is pretty damn easy.

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>>17381378
>2 hour job
>easy

>>17381378
>2 hour job

That's why people don't like it.

>>17381378

You're right, I just don't have a carbtune and RC36.1 viffers, the carbs don't have the vacuum take offs built into them, unlike the RC36.2.

This is just stuff I remember from when I was dreading doing this kind of stuff. The facelift of my bike was easier to work on and sportier.

>>17381396
>>17381401
how is that not easy. You dont even have to dismount the carbs on most bikes. Try adjusting the valve clearances or change the cam chain. Now those are shitty jobs.

>>17381420
2 FUCKING HOURS

>>17381420
balancing tires is a 30min job
what are you doing 2 hours?

>>17381434
that isnt even a sentence.

>>17381420
>Try adjusting the valve clearances
Takes like an hour for all.

>break blinker on muh dr
>$50 to replace a piece of plastic with a lightbulb
alright, when are we going to round up all the shifty heebs and hook-nosed kikes and stop this profane usury?

>>17381438
kys

>>17381441
I'm pretty sure I paid less for my BMW blinker.

>>17381246
My 250 does 120 @5-6k ish/10k in 5th

>>17381445
its funny because my new aluminum handlebars were only $45

AN ALUMINUM PIPE COST LESS MONEY THAN A BULB AND PLASTIC HOUSING
really sous-vides my filet mignon

>>17381439
if that takes you an hour, then syncing carbs takes even less, maybe half an hour, mr superman.

>>17381286
hey im sure you already know this, but you are incredibly lucky to be alive, do not take it for granted

you can die from standing straight up if you hit your head on the ground. next time if they have shit helmets, dont fucking ride. if you dont have gear, dont fucking ride. if you are letting an unprepared novice rider take a bike for a spin with somebody riding bitch, DONT FUCKING RIDE

you are the reason people call them donorcycles. let some stupid bitch control the bike with a passenger, no gear, barely any helmet on that detaches in a low speed crash to a ditch. what if there was a chunk of asphault in the ditch and it smashed your skull open, grasshoppers and ants eating your brain as they scoop you into a bag

>>17381320
>The hardest part was getting to the actual carburetors themselves. Or dealing with stripped screws.
apart from that, mrs. lincoln, how was the play?

>got midsy'd
>foot hurts
Wear boots guys

>>17381469
This. Don't be a nog.

>>17381475
I don't think boots increase visibility.

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Does wearing matching gear make you a fag?

>>17381169
literally the bike i had at driving school

>>17381498
a tryhard with to much money yes.

especially embarrassing if you are a beginner with 2 inch wide chicken strips

>>17381507
Literally me. I'd buy it if it wasn't $900

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>>17381246
A Honda will.
Anything less will blow up prematurely.

>>17381507
>too much money
So you get mad that other people have more money than you?

>>17381565
nope, i just reserve the right to judge if it's spent frivolously to compensate.

>>17381576
>to compensate
Maybe I just like it

>>17381484
Does help if the bike decides to house your foot as a cushion tho

>>17380873
hey i have one of those! it's on my porch till i can get it fixed...

Any tips on rebuilding an engine for the first time?
I already got it out of the frame, and need to have it bored, figure Ill do a top end rebuild in the meantime.

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>>17380790

>>17381565
Dude, it's a 100 dollar premium to put a billboard on your head.

You could just as easily buy a tricolor, lime, or whatever-shade-blue and everybody would recognize instantly.
Or a fucking sticker.

>>17381560
dude, motorcycle chaika has a tight little bod

>>17381176
not a gs500/10

>>17381560
I suppose there are actual official anime mascots for some chinese and japanese brands

can someone provide some pictures?

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>>17381615
I don't think they've fallen that low yet.

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why is it so popular in asia-land?

why are there a metric fuckton of youtube videos on this thing?

>>17381619
i thought it was just REALLY DURABLE

>>17381618
really? you think?
Even Microsoft and other companies that aren't even asian have anime mascots for the faggots

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>>17381649
Motorcycles are for bad boyz though. Anime is for fags.

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>>17381615
Yamaha-chan a best

>>17381619
ayy lmao

>>17381589
you like it because it helps you compensate

>>17381669
thats pretty cool

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>>17381615
Yamaha doesnt have an anime mascot

they do have an (cgi) anime though

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>more storage space in my bike than my shitbox glove compartment

Thoughts on a '15 s40 as a starter bike? Or maybe a rebel500?

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>valves due
>sell bike

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>>17380790

>>17381763
Either is a bit heavy in my mind, good second bikes. Would take the Rebel 500 over the S40 for the parallel-twin over the thumper, but air-cooled is easy.

tl:dr: Fuck if I know.

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>>17381068

If you don't use farm or industrial equipment to lift your motorcycle, you're doing it wrong.

Strap around subframe, lift up. ezpz

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>>17381598
>all this struggle to lift the bike
Pigfat

>>17381781
iktfb

My last bike had the valves due, and needed tires and brakes somewhat soon. I kind of wanted to upgrade anyways so I sold it to someone who didn't do their research or know what to look for. Honestly I don't even feel bad, some simple googling would have helped him out and he still got a decentish deal.

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>>17381798
Yes the bike weighs about 480 and is relatively topheavy.

>>17381813
That really doesn't seem like the sort of riding and terrain you should be doing alone. How long would it take someone to find you if you landed wrong and popped your knee or something?

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>>17381825
I suppose everybody's line between "prudent safety measure" and "lolgay" is different, but "don't [...] alone" is pretty firmly on the far side of mine. (Maybe with an exception for scuba diving or something like that, but I've never been and don't plan to, so eh.).

Some guy spit at me while I was lane splitting today. Not sure if intentional but I got mad af.

>>17381869
I hope he's driving without a mirror

>>17381870
Well my gloves don't really have armored knuckles. Was a van with metal mirrors so I kinda just palmed the fucker and drove off.

>>17381614
>gs500

O I am laffin

What do you guys get your bikes insured through and how much are you paying? My insurance cost is a fair bit higher than I thought it would be, desu. I think I might be getting jipped.

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>>17381604
...don't try this at home...

>>17381912
It's going to vary quite a bit by area--consider using an insurance agent. I was pretty happy with the coverage I got from Safeco in California, and they're a name you don't hear a lot.

>>17381917
wtf where did you get this footage of me?

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>>17381917

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>>17381928
>actual footage of anon

How much do fairings really help in long distance freeway travel? Is it worth being harder to repair?

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rip maplebucks

>>17381788
Interesting. You could be right about the weight, but they put us on HD Street500's in the BRS course, and I felt pretty comfortable on it (even picking one up ;_;).
Sorry for being lazy and not googling, but what's the key differences between the single and twin? Torque? Smoothness at high rev?

>>17382001
How about not crashing

>>17381763
Honda cruisers are great man. DO IT

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>>17382001
Depends on the fairing and weather.
If you're thinking of freeway riding, but don't do rain--quarter fairing to get the air away from your upper body.
If you ride in all weather, look into your options for full kits or half with leg protectors.
Sportbike fairings can be kind-of hit or miss when compared to sport tourers or dustbin. (ST1300, concourse, NT700, p-Coast)

Or you could stop caring what your daddy thinks, and just buy a scooter.

>tfw no minibike on the whole fucking market with >600cc
why even live

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>>17382082
Kids may not know what dustbins are...

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>>17382292
>tfw no 125cc full size goldwing

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>>17382350
Thought I had more serious examples (classic race-bike) on here, but I guess boso or nothing.

>>17382370
Pretty sure the starter motor on a GL1100 is bigger than a 125cc...

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>>17382474
>tfw no grom engine panigale

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>>17381062
Top shelf rape shack, beats mine by a long shot.

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>>17382521
Idk man, Thats wrong turn as fuck.
This place had plenty of rape shacks laying around. Good times

>>17382370
>lifting a piece of cloth to reveal another piece of cloth

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>>17382529
Wrong turns are often the most memorable, you do a lot of snoopin' around on your bike?

>>17382013
twins are smoother, especially honda ptwins.

get the rebel if you can afford it.

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>>17382578
I love going out and getting lost one back roads. Thats half the fun. I do my fair share of snooping around lol.

That def looks like a place methheads would live

>>17382601
>>17382578
>>17382529
Sounds like fun. I should stop relying on my GPS so much.

What did any of you do to learn about bikes and how they work?

Take a class or something? Any recommended reading?

I really want to stop being a baka and be as knowledgeable as alot of you anons when it comes to bikes and all their intricacies...

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>>17382601
Bingo, it's a squatter shack, was lucky enough to pass through while they were out doing their squatter errands.

Didn't notice you were one of the Indian guys, I've been considering financing a new Scout, any idea on a ballpark monthly cost?

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anyone else here loves it if something on the bike breaks or needs tweaking so you can get your spanners out?

I almost came when I saw my chain needed tightening

>>17380770
I'm considering getting a cheap $200 chinese minibike to ride around the streets, are there any major things to look out for when buying one? I know they're not overly reliable but I'm only gonna be riding it short distances. They all seem to be 50cc 2 strokes if that matters.

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>husky on CL
>everything looks damn good
>then see the JB weld
welp lmao

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/6178549841.html

>>17382636
Are you a Ducati owner with stockholme syndrome?

>>17382645
Honda. Maybe I should get a Hyosung instead

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>>17382631
https://youtu.be/pagriJOuH0g

>>17382529
>>17381062
indiananon?
sup

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>>17382611
I only every use mine when absolutely lost
>>17382634
Thats kinda creepy. I've seen enough horror movies to know to avoid those places at all cost lol.

Hmmm. Not sure on the scout, I'd say maybe 200 a month maybe if financed. Depends on your credit I'd guess.

>tfw just posted my first motorcycle for sale on Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist

what am I in for?

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i have come with questions for the /o/rb of wisdom

1. when you buy a motorcycle for the first time do you just walk up to the dealership, buy it, and then drive home? i assume you take it for a little test drive first or a spin around the block or whatever but for the first time you ever get a bike it seems kind of nuts to drive it all the way home. how did you guys do this?

2. am I getting memed on by Big Motorcycle or am I really going to have to spend like 150 bucks to get a quality helmet?

3. how did you guys learn to ride? permit + practice or motorcycle preschool? i'm thinking about doing the schooling, for those of you that took those courses (the 3 day ones specifically) how prepared did you feel afterwards?

4. i've been driving cars for like 4 years and I'm pretty damn good at it. I've been biking my whole life. how difficult is motorcyclesing compared to those? i've also never driven manual but I assume options for that exist in the motorcycle world as well.

ty in advance

>>17382689
hey man Rachid here
can you drop the price by 50%
I'll be there in 2 hours
>yes
[not showing up intensifies]

>>17382662
Whats up man. Just being a bum and drinking a little before the lady and I go out with some friends.

How about yourself

>>17382689
Lowballers complaining that your bike is worthless
Lowballers offering "cash" as if you'd take checks or some shit
Lowballers who aren't even interested in buying

>>17382698
>>17382704
pls no ;_;

>>17382695
1. I am European. We learn to ride before we buy a motorcycle.
2. 150 bucks is low. I spent 400. Stop complaining. Get one that fits properly.
3. I took lessons. They are mandatory.
4. Its easy as shit if you are not a retard that does wheelies while drunk at night 1 hour after losing your anal virginity. Easy to learn, hard to master.

np

>>17382702
Thankful the heat has died, gonna be painting inside of a building tomorrow, same old same old
neat exploration pics

>>17382695
1. similar to buying a car. Test ride is a good idea even for new bikes because they all have different ergonomics and even if you really want x brand by y make, the ergos may just not be right for you and might make you consider a competitor by another manufacturer. You could certainly ride it home but there is always the option to trailer it home too, which I did for mine even though it was a CL buy simply because it was too cold at the time and I was on limited gear.

2. There are decent helmets to be had for ~$100, though I wouldn't really go lower. Key there is certs, you need at least DOT, with Snell and ECE additionally being preferred. Anything above that is features and ergonomics.

3. I got a permit then took a BRC, easiest way to do it IMO. Even as a total noob with no experience, they give you all the basic skills and it's generally a solid option no matter what. After mine I felt pretty well prepared; I was still a little anxious getting on the open road, but no more so than when I first started driving.

4. Not so many automatic bikes, but anyone can learn to drive manual, and bikes are more forgiving for it than cars are. If you've been bicycling a lot you should already have at least a bit of a feel for lean angle and things like that, but since motorcycling is at a much higher speed you'll need to be more aware for things like approaching curves and how severe they are and road conditions in general

>>17382716
Yea I did some riding today befits the heat got bad. But the rain cooled it down a bit. Hopefully tomorrow it's nice so the local car show is good to go.

>>17382695
1. Don't buy a bike if you can't ride
2. $150 is cheap as fuck for a helmet. As long as it's DOT approved you're okay.
3. Motorcycle classes (take 'em you wanna-be statistic)
4. Car skills don't apply to motorcycles. I've never driven a manual but I have no problems on bikes. Autotragics suck, don't do it.

>>17382716
>>17382724
Fuck I suck at spelling lol


Yea inside work is always a plus in this heat man.
Stay hydrated!

>>17382730
>>17382724
It's all good man. Classic car show?

>Stay hydrated!
You too, def gonna need it more than I will tomorrow

>>17382643
Covers break all the time on these bikes, that JB weld is stronger than the factory case itself.

>>17382728
not that anon, but it's always something that perplexed me, too

would taking the 3 day course through give you enough on-bike experience to go buy a bike a week later and then ride it all the way home on your own? assuming I am a person with no friends who ride, and no access to a towing vehicle/driver

>>17382733
Yea. It's a local thing that goes all summer. My old man might bring his Studebaker.
And funny enough I've been thinking of getting a camel back to have for the summer

>>17382738
If you stick to the back roads and don't try to go on the highway you should be okay. Just don't try riding on the highway or in high-traffic times when you're still getting the hang of it.

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>>17382695
1. I don't know, have never dealt with a dealership.

2. You're going to have to spend $150 or more for a good helmet and another few hundred bucks on gloves and a jacket, unless you're down with constant finger blisters and road rash.

3. Having no prior experience other than occasional half-assed dirt bike riding in the woods I took 30 hours of lessons over 3 weeks prior to my road test, $850 CAD after taxes and bike rental (Yamaha V-Star 250). I felt very confident in my riding and over-prepared for the test by the end of it, I absolutely believe it was worth it and would recommend it to all new riders.

4. I consider riding a motorcycle much more difficult and involved than driving a car. You must learn proper counter-steering, leaning, body positioning, lane positioning, not having auto-cancelling turn signals, group riding skills, and manual transmission use (helps if you already drive a manual car, but you'll still have to get used to the gear order and using your foot). Can you just hop on a bike and go without paying for long, expensive, and challenging lessons? Absolutely, but you'll feel a lot at ease in traffic and you'll be a lot more fun to ride with if you do it the long way.

>>17382738
I'm assuming you're a burger. I don't know how the MSF courses work, but here you have closed-circuit and on-road segments where you learn the basics. It won't make you an amazing rider but you should be able to get from A to B in low traffic.

>>17382746
Lol I'm sure you'll get a lot of "I had one of these back in the day"

without fail every time

I'm sure you can just throw one over your leather jacket and wire the tube into your helmet

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>>17382695
1. If private sale, seller may willing to deliver to your place in his pickup or you can borrow a pickup or rent trailer etc. To get it home. Dealer also may deliver for fee.
2. Not sure. Spent 300ish on a discount Shoei and its very nice+durable and doesnt 'feel cheap'.
3. Never took a course. Daddy taught me on his Serow out in the country. Just get some practice away from traffic, study applicable laws, then go take your test.
4. Bike, I think especially mountain bike handling skills will translate into motorcycle handling skill. I feel sorry for you -learn manual or you'll have to ride scooters or rare DCT bikes.

>>17382738
yeah this is the scenario i was basically imagining, obviously it's retarded to buy a bike without training to ride first but it seems kind of nuts that you can just take a 3 day BRC, and then be certified to buy a motorcycle from a dealership along the highway and peel out for your first ride straight into 60 mph traffic. it sounds like there's more to it than that so I was asking what everyone's experience was.

>>17381970
I just fucking love how painfully sc-fi the NM-4 is. fucking japan sell it in australia already.

>>17382763
>it seems kind of nuts that you can just take a 3 day BRC, and then be certified to buy a motorcycle from a dealership along the highway and peel out for your first ride straight into 60 mph traffic
'murrica

>>17382763
It's easier than it sounds

Slow down for corners until you have practiced dank leans in an empty lot (or go for it, if you die you die)

Alternatively get a low COG cruiser that barely has to lean to turn

>>17382759
Right? Like those garbage gas mask from the military

>>17381441
Is it some kind of a fairing monster, or for what reason didn't you just get a pair of ebay turn signals for 5 buckaroos?

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>>17382778
Yeah it is stupid as fuck.

I came from 10 years of autocross, trackdays, a little club racing, even with all of that experience I still felt unprepared after the BRC.

>>17382837
fuck that, I got some ebay turn signals to replace the signals on my old Vulcan because the rubber stalks were getting crumbly... The ebay lights were terrible -- not water tight at all and one of the bulb sockets had a shitty tack weld to its bracket and just broke off and hung loose when I tried to put a lightbulb in it.

I pulled them off, threw them in the trash and spent $30 a piece for 4 OEM replacements.

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>>17382843

I'm 6'2" so I'm tall, but I'm relatively small I guess at 155 lbs, looking for a bike, mostly for fun, but also I like roadtrips to visit my friends at school. I'm into cars, and can work a wrench but the bike world eludes me
Not looking to break the bank, sub 2k turnkey, 1.5k if it needs some work I guess

>>17382861
gs500

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>>17382851
That's too bad. Mine have been working fine.

>>17382861
gs500f

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>>17382843
>tfw I realize the eyes are crooked

So after I put my bike to some high revs and moderately rough acceleration the other day, the low oil pressure light came on. I pulled over to check and make sure I didn't spring a leak, and everything looked fine, dipstick didn't really make it seem like I was low on oil, and I've been riding it a bit since and the bike hasn't had any change in sound, feel or function. Since the initial occurrence, the light has gone out and come back on a time or two, not flickering, but maybe in 30 min to 1 hour spans. Anyone have any insight? Should I just change the oil and filter and see what that does?

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>>17382695
Let me chop this down to no 1 only.

The dealership:
-20% chance of fairweather test philosophy. If it's not raining, and your paperwork is straight, they let you ride with one of the greasemonkeys.
Otherwise, call ahead to see if they have demo days. That's a giant group ride, where you sign to test whatever you want back to back.
Don't give your business to places that don't do test drives. Just buy a greyhound for up to 300 miles. You'll enjoy the way back.

-They will sell you the biggest bike you're dumb enough to buy. Do research on the lineup to see what's light, has low center of gravity, etc.
Additionally, people expecting car dealership style fellatio will feel bullied by the "active" style of recommendation a bike requires. Shut up and learn something, just keep your whits so you don't end up with something completely different from target.

-Again, do your research. If you don't know what kind of riding you're going to do, buy adv instead of dual sport. Pick naked over sportbike. Find out what you like, then walk straight the fuck out of there. Download cycle-trader so you can check every dealership in the area, look up the bike's individual forum (e.g. http://www.cbr500riders.com), sleep on it, then buy.


Gear and shit can be collected and improved over time. Getting the wrong first bike can drive you away from the whole hobby without reason.

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Is a steering damper something worth buying if I want to go 150mph? Will it improve handling noticeably?

>>17383000
Death wobbles can be fun

>>17382778
Better have miles of bullshit red tape and ass rapingly high fees for anything you might break a nail doing

>Yurop

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Also, first-bike anon, if you're looking for a first cruiser, I recommend the new rebel. Comes in 300 and 500.
Spare parts everywhere.
Easy to ride.
Honda.

>>17383010
I think there's a good middle ground somewhere in between.

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>Finished washing mighty Africa Twin
>Wheeling her back into the garage
>Slip on Muc-Off spot
>Manage to catch bike as it falls
>At the cost of intense spinal pain

I blame the extra 10kg of the DCT unit.

>>17383036
Blame yourself for buying the DCT version

>>17383036
>buying the dct

kys

>>17383024
Nah I think the American version is just fine

Stay poor/in your lane yurop

>>17383049
>>17383057
Have you tried a DCT bike? They're excellent, spine-destroying weight notwithstanding.

>>17383000
doesn't hurt, never know when you'll death wobble

>>17383086
Yes, they're garbage

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>>17382695
Sweet! I've got a little time to do the rest, too.
2: Scour local dealerships and gear shops for closeout helmets. Cycle gear is the real meme...
3. I personally rode my shit-scooter around a parking lot across from my apartment for a month. Then put the scooter in shop for road-worthiness, took 2 day course.
Everything after is personal preference, but I'd emphasize slow speed control (parking lot) and high speed calm-ness (freeway). Going out during peak hours is foolish, at first. So is wet weather.
(Although, in theory you'd benefit from one dry training day, one wet...)
4: Dipshits have trouble with using the gearbox. Find the friction zone, and it's just like inching your car forward <5mph.
Beyond that, you ride completely by feeling, and the bicycle just shows you how countersteering is supposed to work. Don't be street Rossi. Take your time and build a new, heightened sense of inertia.

>>17383114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

>XR650R for sale in a nearby craigslist for $1950
too bad i'm poor

>>17381227
I would make a compromize and go with a older FZ6/1 or a Bandit.

>>17383248
I just wish the FZ6 and FZ1 weren't so fugly, those headlights

>>17382643
JB weld doesn't bother me in the least.

That pic from the back where the fender/seat/tank don't line up. That is bad, probably a bent subframe.

610sm is actually a pretty fun bike.

They have a few issues, cam chain stretch and a problem with the cush hub in the clutch basket with the caps for the springs are too soft. Cafe Husky has a good pinned topic on it if you need to know more.

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>>17382843

>>17381176
I'm still learning my bikes by sight. What is that? The seat looks like a Ninja 650 seat, in one piece but with pronounced curves. Looks like a vtwin engine. Frame looks like the SV but with round tubes instead of square. I'd guess Gladius but I thought they had a little more plastic on the dash and around the light. Did Suzuki start making naked SVs again like this year or last year?

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>>17382843

>>17382968
When was the last time you changed it, the shit doesn't last forever.

>>17383286
Haven't done it since I bought the bike in February, but I also haven't been riding enough to warrant a change by now. The bike was tuned up by the guy I bought it from, but saying that now makes me realize that I should've just done it anyway even as early as right after I got the bike.

Regardless, would the need for an oil change cause a low oil pressure condition? I would think it would have to have been ages for that to happen

I'm looking at selling my current bike to get a new one, how many cents on the dollars do you guys use for the value of your modifications/farkles? Like, if I had a pannier set that cost $1000 brand new, how much should I factor into the asking price of the bike? $100? $500? $1000? Something else?

>>17383300
PO tells you anything about the bike

> lying sack of shit

Check everything.

Change the oil and put a new filter in it and see what happens, Running around with oil that has sheared all it's vis off is not good on your bike.

>>17381781
>those hips and thighs

wtf cirno???

>>17381246
i can ride my single cylinder dual sport at 70mph at 7k/10k rpm forever without hurting anything. It also has a much longer stroke meaning higher piston speed and worse balance than an i2 250

>>17383308
1/2 if it's GOOD tier stuff, nothing if you bought budget shit.

You are almost always better parting all you farkles and selling the bike stock.

>>17383327
Fair enough, just more fun for the weekend. Probably what I would've done first anyway, just wanted to get any other perspectives/input

thanks

>>17382695
Hijacking this post.

Who's ever been to a dealership that let's you test ride? Every dealership I've been to doesn't allow them. Keep in mind I've only been to dealerships in Florida, but still. All of them give some bullshit excuse about insurance and dance around actually explaining why they don't allow them.

>>17383281
Yeah it's the new sv650.

>>17382843
Best I got without going in the garage to take a new one

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>>17382843
>>17383375
>forgot to attach picture because I'm an idiot

>>17383337
Alright, that seems fair. I've got an FJR1300 with the following extras (and their approx. price when new):

>Touring windshield $150
>McCruise electronic cruise control $1100
>Givi top case + rack $500
>Powder coated soft luggage rack $400
>Crash bars $200
>Mirror extenders $50
>Throttle tamer $50
>Saddle bag liners $??? 100??
>Frame sliders $100
>Ram mounts $50
>Headlight protectors $100

Total of $2800 if my math is right.
So you're saying that adding $1300-$1500 based on modifications would be about right?

Also what's the deal with shop manuals and maintenance records? Are they worth anything or do they just make for an easier sale?

Has anybody had their engine block bored before? Im pretty certain I need to take mine in to have it done. Not sure what the process is like, do I bring them just the upper half of the block with all the pistons removed?

Is there any other prep work I need to do before hand?

>>17383473
Service manuals are usually pretty easy to find on line if youre willing to dig. I would be real happy if someone gave me maintenance records with a bike, I guess it depends on the person though.

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who /proweeb/ here? is racing miku revealing too much powerlevel?

>>17383590
>racing
>that sprocket
am I retarded is that sprocket retarded? serious

>>17383590
I want to do that eventually™. Are cheap Chinese fairings good enough?

>>17383481
whaaat makes you think it needs bored? Unless you are fitting new pistons, you don't do dat.

>>17383606
With the extended swing arm it looks like a pure acceleration machine.

>>17383590
It's electric?

Whats up with these craigslist dickheads that don't even put on their location, or important things like the bikes mileage? I have the money, I want a bike NOW. But the asswipe isn't even responding to my texts.

>>17383608
You remember those Chinese knock-off Gundam plastic models?
It's like that.

>>17383629
sounds like the guy is retarded and doesn't know how to take care of a bike ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>17383610
Well it has really bad compression, so I pulled the motor out and took the head off to check the valves and piston rings, And found that there's like a noticeable groove in the cylinder wall from when the bike was sitting. :(

here is some more pictures if anyone is interested, i was thinking about doing this on a cbr600 or something similar
>>17383608
i wouldnt trust them, but then again it all depends on who you are buying them from
>>17383620
it's a racing bike, but that motor looks electric so probably

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>definitly a mint condition mechanically
>Starter clutch cover is cracked open

Nice

>>17383659
>forgot the link
http://cooterie.com/images/view/22362

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>>17383666
>super easy to ride because of 1200cc torque monster engine

>>17383666
czeched and keked ask him the mechanical condition of the clutch cover

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>used to own a seca II
>ripped the fairing off because it's ugly as fuck
>pls lawd all this wind no thank you
>buy a sv1000s
>thank god for half fairing again
>see a honda 919 on craiglist, sexy as fuck
>remember dat wind tho

Are nakeds as bad as I remember? I remember death gripping the bars at 70+ mph but fuck that hornet is sexy as fuck

>>17383657
There will be a ridge at the highest point that the ring travels, that's normal and won't hurt anything. If there is a groove in the swept area, you can try honing the cylinder, but if you end up with too much piston to cylinder clearance then you need to buy an oversized piston and have the cylinder bored to match. You need to do all the cylinders at once if you have more than one.

That's if you have iron cylinder liners. If the cylinder is plated, you send it to be re-plated. You mic the pistons and replace them if they are warn out of spec. Again, if you have a PLATED cylinder you don't hone or bore.

What bike?

>>17383670
Appears to be an electric Pikes Peak hillclimb bike

>>17383714
I dunno. Some people hate it, I don't mind.

>>17383721
Its a 91 Suzuki GSF400.
How much is too much regarding piston to cylinder clearance?
Also where can I find out if the cylinders are plated or not? Is it visual/is there a test I can do to tell?

Thx for the help.

>>17383693
I just dont understand, if youre trying to downplay damage to the engine they why post a closeup photo of it...?

>>17381663
Anime is for pedophiles*
Why try to sugar coat it?
The only reason 90% of weebs like anime is depictions of children in sexual situations makes them get a stiffy.

>>17383666
>people think the clutch cover is insanely important
It's really not and they cost like $200 to replace.
is ask $1500 for the bike because of it.

>>17383629
If they are to dumb to do that stuff they probably don't know how to do regular maintenance. Best leave those alone.

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>>17380770
r8

>>17383857
scooters are for italian women to ride.

>>17383714
Only time I've had a problem with the wind was when I tried to max out my FZ8 in a 15mph crosswind. Literally cruise at 70-90mph every ride. Not bad at all.

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>>17383863
>not wanting to be turbochad on a vespa

>>17383873
If i came into contact with that man id roll him for all his dardy shit before taking it to cash converters to hock it in.

>>17383876
>being this mad at a fellow rider
>being this mad at someone because he looks better than you

>>17383256
Good catch on catching the lining, thanks.

I think I'll pass on this specific one, but recently I've noticed many more husky 610s on the market. Never knew Cafe Husky was a thing, thanks again for the info.

>>17383606
It's electric.

>>17383886
I'd rather watch him fall off and hit his unprotected head than associate with him, two wheels or no.

>>17383777
91? It's iron liners.

The allowed clearances, sizes, etc are in the shop manual. to check it requires a miocrometer and a bore guage and some skill...

If it were me, I'd buy a cheap hone from the local auto parts store, see if I could hone the groove out, put it back together and start it and if the piston isn't slapping than hazzah!

If that doesn't work, it's either a set of pistons and a trip to the machine shop, or a check on ebay or the breakers to see if a good cylinder block with pistons can be had.

Good luck.

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>>17382875
that bike looks oddly familiar. what is it?

>>17383970
Ok thanks.
I found in the service manual that the clearance limit is 0.12mm. Gonna check it tomorrow and see what Im currently at, although I dont know how accurate of a reading Im gonna be able to get.

Im not super familiar with a hone, and a quick look online only came up with some proprietary wanky FlexHone(tm) shit. Do you mean something like this or one of the cylindrical brush things?

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>>17384063
>>17383970
pic

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my 750 before some senile fuck reversed into it in a car park

>getting insurance quote for Sprint ST 1050
>cheapest 3rd party fire and theft is £578.97

Holy fuck is insurance usually this high for sports tourers?

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>>17382695
>>17382707
>>17382720
>>17382728
I really would like to take motorcycle classes, but honestly, the nearest one is 150 miles and is a shitty one that overbooks so half the students who get there have to quit anyway(without getting their fucking money back, either).

I have no practical option except to learn on my own or with minimal help from friends. What do I do here? Just buy a bike and trailer it out to the desert to ride for a while and learn? Get into a big empty parking lot and just practice for days?

>>17384363
Find a closer MSF course, there literally has to be one near you. Send me your Zip code and I will literally spoonfeed one to you.

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>>17384363
Help from friends. Especially if you can borrow a dual-sport.
Great to learn on, never buy one.

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>>17384369
Nigga we don't even have a fucking driving school. It shut down last year. That's how fucking bad it is out here. I've not just searched online but spoken directly to local dealerships, the DMV, and repair shops hoping for something. The absolute closest one is 100 miles for a sketchy place, 120 for one that overbooks and is still sketchy but at least gets you a DMV waiver, or ~150-200 for an actual MSF course.

Fuck it, though. 93555. I'm more than happy to be proven wrong. God I hate this hellhole.

>>17384391
That's what I'm thinking. Most people out here will assume you're going to shoot them and take it, but I wager I can find at least one person with no sense of self preservation that would let me try.

>>17384441
Honda training center at Colton. Yea it's a bit over 100 miles away, but you've only got to go like 3 days. It's literally something you should only have to do once in your life, so that's really not that bad.

Thinking of moving up to an SV650 once I decide to upgrade from my grom lads.

>>17384501
Do it, V twins are great, and the SV is a damn good starterish bike.

>>17384501
Youre a living meme

>>17381138
>letting women drive anything ever
>riding bitch at all
>posting photos of your hospitalized girlfriend on a south ossetian street rossi emulation dedicated community

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I took my '70 Enfield Interceptor out today for a cruise. Just finished rebuilding the carbs, she ran pretty well despite a few throttle cable problems.

>>17384495
If only it hasn't been such a huge fucking deal so far. One day it's the hotel, one day it's my only ride to get there, one day it's just that the school was shitty... Christ, dude. I've been trying to get this done for six fucking months.

How long am I going to have to keep this shit up before the stars align?

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>>17382843

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What is the best country for motorcycles?

>decent roads
>least amount of shitty weather possible
>while also not a fucking desert
>developed enough that niggers won't steal your bike

I litterally know nothing about bikes but want to ride one.

I like cb250r or cb500 early 80's as first bike.

Is this retarded?

>>17380873
Whats so bad about this bike?

>>17381619
Would this make a good cade racer?

>>17384689
Nothing wrong with that.
get a bike you faggot.

>>17384727
Nothing makes a good cafe racer.

>>17384732
Whats wrong with cafe racers?

>>17384762
I was shitposting, but they look like something you'd ride as hard as you possibly can just so you can stop riding as soon as possible.

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>>17384762
Work as amateurish as most "café racers" do nothing but endanger the rider and piss off real mechanics.
Also the revival is associated with pretentious "hipsters," therefore none of us are allowed to like **things**

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>>17384762
Customs are ok, boso is cool and restomod is sexual
But hipsters just gut the airbox, weld a "frame loop" and spraypaint everything black

>>17384803
Don't forget hacked fenders and unbolstered seats.

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>>17384803
Speaking of, what do you think would be the easiest way to source dustbins in the states?
Alternatively, how to make decent ones in a home garage?
The answer to this will literally decide my next bike. (80's Magna or 00's VFR)

>>17384803
>>17384777
Bikes are much better looking without all the extra fenders and crap on them though.

>>17384180
Did his insurance pay out?

>>17384807
Whats bad about this?

I saw a harley the other day but it looked like a cafe racer and not a chopper.

What model could that be?

>>17384832
maybe the roadster or 883

>>17384832
You're probably staring at some kind of sportster with clubmans instead of ape hangers.
It's nothing special, just (bars) + (seat) + (airflow) and you've got a basic hipstermobile.

>>17384686
Literally nowhere

>>17384840
>>17384849
It had spring on the back.

>>17384686
Tasmania in Australia, I'm biased though

So thr only reason people dislike cafe racers is because hipsters like them?

>>17381619
license reasons i think

the 400cc license is cheap and easy to get at 16 so a lot of people buy a bike like the SR or CB400 and keep it forever for commuting.

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>>17384977
And the su-four is one of the last cool bikes Honda makes...

>>17385006
What is a cbr and vtr?

>hurrr durr

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>>17385015
They still make VTR's?
And no. The cbr series is designed with precision in mind, and not much else. Dorkiness second only to Suzuki.
And I actually like Hondas.

If you had a choice would you go for a vtec VFR or a pre vtec one?

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>>17384819
Meh, found an answer myself.
http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/hondaz/prodhon.htm

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>>17385029
If I had money for the new hotness, 2014 VFR800F.
Otherwise, toss up depending on price and mileage. Buying the viffer is a permanent prospect, for me. I'd like to see as much of the engine's life as possible.

>>17385029
Neither, VFR is a shit meme bike.
I'd get a Tuono if I was desperate for a v4

>>17385019
Its funny because that is hondas dorkiest looking bike.

Too much fairing.

>>17385035
>People here like this shit but hate cafe racers

>>17385043
Is 42,000 miles a lot for a bike like that or would it be ok?

>>17385117
That's a fuckload

>>17385117
what bike? A VFR? I wouldnt risk it, the older ones are notorious for oil starvation.

>>17385122
yeah vfr. That's the 2002 model, there's a 1999 model with 30,000 miles on it. Only sightly cheaper.

>>17384940
Tasmania in the summer, yes GOAT
Just about the rest of Australia in the winter doesn't get the ice though.
I drove through almost all of Tasmania one year and the winter had some spooky moments in the mornings because I didn't expect the ice. I think it was a colder than usual winter but it would never happen in QLD/NSW or most of Vic, but I do think it has the best density of fun roads than anywhere else in Australia.

>>17383714
My naked isn't too bad, but it has a lot of wind protection for a naked.

>>17385117
It depends if the price reflects this.
I bought my bike at almost 42000mi and now I have almost 70000. I still haven't had it rebuilt or any significant work done or any failures, shit even the carbs haven't skipped a beat aside from needing a sync.
In my opinion that's a lot of riding for $3000. I still wouldn't regret buying it if it broke down tomorrow, I've put the bike through a lot of abuse but always done basic maintenance on time.

Maybe I just got lucky but most people seem to either directly cause their engine death, wreck it in a crash, or sell it after losing interest/wanting a different bike before it breaks down from age.

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>>17385153
I found this for £2600, comes with panniers as well and only 20,000 miles but I can't decide whether I like this paint job or fucking hate it.

>>17385174
Nobody can decide that for you anon
You could always get a quote from a paint shop to repaint the whole lot if it bothers you that much and tack on that cost. BYO decals, or not having them, will probably save you $100-200 too since dealers charge out the ass when shops buy them. Apparently.
Or try painting yourself if you have the means.

>>17385174
the colour scheme is nice, but having a bunch of random companies on it besides the bikes manufacturer is always silly to me. Just advertising some dudes shit for free.

>>17385122
So a bike wears out faster than a car?

>>17385195
yeah, they'll still go way farther than most people expect as long as you keep up with general maintenance but the engines rev higher and are smaller.

>>17385195
generally bikes have half the life of a car.

>>17385203
So 150,000 ks and it's starting to die?

>>17385195
Depends on how they're both used.
>bike
>typically higher engine speeds
>generally put under more stress more often
>smaller oil capacity
>usually high compression
>clutch, transmission and engine usually share the same oil

>car
>needs to overcome a lot more weight
>*heavier engine components*
>*typically higher part count* although some bikes are pretty complicated

not much else i can think of right now
but put under high stress imo i think your typical street bike would last longer than your typical car

>>17385211
well if you've looked after it well no it should still be ok.

I once saw a hayabusa with 300,000 miles on it in a shop, asked the guy about it he said it still runs absolutely fine. As long as maintenance has been kept on top it will still work.

>>17385195
a bike runs twice the revs of a car, of course the engine wears out faster.

>dream i forget to pick they key from the bike
>bike gets stolen
>was a hayabusa
>still getting my license so no real life bike

>>17385122
I have heard of R/R failures, gearbox failures, engines grenading from deferred valve checks, stuck thermostats, but never oil starvation. That's only for wheelie'd GSXRs. VFRs just have the usual old bike problems.

Engines don't magically wear down three times as fast as your 7k redline car engine if the lubrication system is designed to keep up with it running at those speeds. At the worst, the shared sump between the transmission and engine accelerates wear if you don't do your fucking oil changes.

Even then, bike engines are like three hundred bucks and can be lifted by hand if you're not a trap. Ezpz to replace. Not always worth it because if the engine is shot every bearing and seal elsewhere in the bike probably is too.

>>17385536
nah VFRs had problems lubricating the cams.

its a common problem with older V4s though.

>>17385539
That's the VFs, not the VFRs. The VFRs were overbuilt and pigfat because that's honda's knee jerk reaction to a design turning out to be shit.

what is the AE86 of motorcycles?

>>17385565
Ninja 300

>>17384341
I bought a 07 gsf1250s and my current insurance company wanted $710 for full coverage. I was able to find two other companies that would give me the same coverage for $450. Just shop around my man.

>>17385112
>one can be argued to add practical value
>the other sacrifices everything to look like a hipster
no shit people that like one don't need to like the other