[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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Anyone know how the fuck I am supposed to get these out? They won't budge at all. Are they threadlocked on?

>>17355977
heat

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>read old bread
>2k17 FZ bullying

d-dont let them see you c-cry.

Heat wave is in effect, squids are everywhere.

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>>17356040
Just got my FZ8 up to 139 with a 17mph cross wind. With no gloves. Squid race master race

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>>17356040
Fz1 > fz09

>>17356065
I want to ride my buddies 8. They look pretty fun.

>>17355970
how are hayabusas for a first bike? i've always wanted one

Went to the dealer today, they fucking sucked.

Does anyone know of a dealer in NY that actually lets you fucking ride a bike before you buy it?

I test rode the FZ10 and it is an absolute monster. I shudder to think what it would be like to ride without the electronic aids.

>power wheelies in first 4 gears
>will out-accelerate literally any 600 supersport and most liter supersports
>handles like an upright naked bike
>machcheese into and out of corners without any of the nimbleness of a supersport
>bike refuses to be ridden slowly, but offers zero wind protection
>exhaust note makes for a diamond dick
>stillsortofwant.jpeg

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>>17356108
>dealer today
>sunday
>closed


what dealer?

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Washing the bike on a Sunday feels amazing.

>>17356119
Island Powersports

>>17356080
If I had the cash I would have loved to get the FZ09, but I got this for cheap and I'm getting a FZ10 with in the next year.

>tfw you see people going to test ride events all the time on Youtube
>tfw they don't seem to exist in your region or country

>>17356108
why the fuck are you buying from a dealership

dont tell me youre one of those people that think "oh they gave it a safety inspection, i just feel more comfortable buying from them"

>>17356114
Literally the best daily riding bike. Has power and comfy enough to ride all day. If only I wasn't a poor college boy.

>>17356171
I want to buy a New bike. If I could buy it direct from Yamaha and just get the crate shipped to my house I would.

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>>17356140

If I ever get a chance again to be buying a new bike, I'd go for an FZ-10 now that Ive got the experience on big boy bikes. I thought the FZ-10 was amazing but considering ive only ever rode a 250 beforehand, I didnt want to take the risk.

Bought an 09 with TCS to play it safe and still love it to death. I bet the FZ-10 is N+1 for fun.

>got a good engineering job
>can afford to get new bike and make 600 into a track only bike
>new 600s are pretty much the same as my 2007
>insurance on a new 1000 would be more than the monthly payments even though I've been riding 5 years without incident

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never forget

>>17356177
So keep the used 600 and get another used bike for tracking.

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Post cool pics

>>17356188
I want something new and shiny with all the new gadgets though. I wish somebody would update their 600's, they've been nearly the exact same bikes for a decade now

>>17356179
Happened to me too fampai

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>>17356200

>weather turned to shit
>haven't done anything other than commute on FZ for about a week

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>>17355970
First for Kawasexi Z650 lust.

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Sup senpai, any Harley fags in here?
I need someone to point me in the right direction. I bought a used sportster (2004) and was wondering if the oil cap is closed right? It looks weird

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Hey guys check it out: no topbox

>>17355970
I reported in dbt that I finished my MSF course. Recently I found a 390 duke on craigslist with just 1k miles and grabbed it and I can't believe how great fun this baiku is. Having a hard time leaving it alone, I've been practicing my riding in parking garages, lots, etc without people on the weekends.

Something about this is so much more free than a car. Even 35-40 mph feels so fast compared to anything I've ever done in a competent car. The feeling of wind, the acceleration, the weight of the forces during a lean, I love it all.

I used to ignore these threads, but now I've seen the light. I love my baiku and I love my new hobby.

>>17356275
>harley

does it leak oil? No? It's too tight then.

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how the fuck am i expected to pay for my regular car's insurance AND my motorcycle's insurance?

>>17356292
good for you i guess

>>17356297
>being british

>>17356292

Welcome to the fold, faggot. I though tit was pretty neat how pretty much every corner in existence was fun when I got my first bike. Enjoy it while it lasts... at some point you'll realize that the fun increases exponentially as the speeds increase.

>>17356297
Dont live in ontario

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>>17356200

>>17356304
I've anecdotically noticed the opposite on several occasions in the past, most recently when an Arizonan said he'd pay out the ass for insurance on a new Ducati or something, and I ran the insurance calculator on the model and it came out with a MUCH lower quote for me here in Germany, and probably with better coverage too.

>>17356296
There was some leakage after I brought it home but after that it doesn't seem like it's leaking anymore

how do you keep your bike safe living in a city?

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How do pannier racks work anyway? Are they one size fits all, or do you need a different one for certain pannier models? Do the panniers clamp on or what's the deal with them?

>>17356275
screw it down to normal tight then push

push again

enjoy your dick sucking

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>>17356297
1. stop being poor

>>17356297
how much, what bike?

>>17356353
not living in a degenerate hellhole might help.

otherwise you're fucked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQg3wa0kGbc

>>17356297
Earn more dollarydoos/move to a non shit tier country that doesn't rape you for insurance

>>17356297
By not being a poor faggot.

Alternatively why the fuck do you need a car? bike is all you need.

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>>17356200

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Can you actually fail the MSF skills test? Every youtube video sort of implies you have to fuck up literally everything to not pass. I can't find a standard rubric anywhere.

Excluding the dropping the bike and 4 stall rule.

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>>17356200

What's with this new fashion of not properly linking the new thread?

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>>17356462
IIRC foot down is a pretty big hit on score as well.

I can't remember but there's a certain score you have to hit to fail, kind of like golf. At least that's what it was like for me.

Not sure if I want to upgrade from my Grom after getting my full license lads. I love it but I don't want to have to continuously keep it at 70mph on the motorway without upgrading it/swapping to a bigger bike 2bh

>>17356462
>>17356490
if it's anything like cbt in the uk, the instructor liking you has a bigger bearing than anything you do or don't do on the bike.

>>17356514
so, keep the grom and keep off the motorway. I've no idea where you live or where you are going, but remember Google Maps has an "avoid highways" option.

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>>17356467

>>17356467
That roadsign placement is unfortunate

>>17356514
Maybe get a big bore kit or look into sumos, nakeds and other hoon bikes

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>>17356536
>>17356467
>>17355970

>>17356514
>he can get to 70
lucky bastard my ybr does ~65 down hill if I tuck in like a tragic faggot

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>>17356514
You should keep it as a secondary bike.

>>17356363
They seem to be matched to the bike and the bags in such a way as to optimise teh extraction of cash from your wallet.

But srsly, the frame is made for the bike, with "universal fit" versions that will work with mostly cruisers. All they have to do is keep a soft bag from getting cought in the spokes

>>17356561
>They seem to be matched to the bike
I'm smart enough to deduct this much, but are the panniers matched to the racks?

>All they have to do is keep a soft bag from getting cought in the spokes
But what about "hard bags"? Do they have special mounts?

>>17356566
Depends, I think some brands use one type of case, just with different racks.

>>17356552
I'd love to but I don't have the means to. (Live in a block of flats w/ outdoor parking)

>>17356546
That's on a good day. It can be as low as 60mph at full throttle if it's windy.

>>17356540
I thought about replacing the camshaft for a performance upgrade. But I'm not an expert on engines. What would a camshaft replacement achieve? I already got a cone filter for it which gave it a little boost.

>>17356561
I run soft bags with no support

>>17356566
Yes, every company has their own proprietary attatchment
Fkg and drz had kickass homemade ammo boxes ones

Saddle bags are cheaper and often more practical

>>17356455
>>17356490
can someone explain to a know nothing why they sell bikes with the logo of a spanish power company on them?

>>17356580
To look more like the proper racing bikes.

>>17356580
You talking about the mv?
It makes italian helis
The fireblade instead is honda's boring liter

>>17356580
Race liveries so people feel like they're actually buying a race bike even though it's nothing like the one they watch on TV.

Also it looks nice.

>>17356584
that's why I figured but I would imagine that there would be licensing issues with that no? I mean why don't other manufacturers do it? Or do they?

>>17356580
to improve motogp larp performance.

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>>17356580
its a racing replica. It features the stickers of a MotoGP team.

some people like being used as a commercial platform.

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>>17356462

Two dudes didn't pass when I took it. One couldn't wrap his head around doing more than one thing at once and couldn't ride within the cones to save his life. The other was an obvious hazard to himself and everyone on the roads. The instructors had to tell him to slow down and redo almost all of the drills. They even gave him a warning about excessive speed, but the dickhole kept at it.

Every single drill:

>takes off and redlines first gear
>hard clunk into 2nd
>bike unsettles from the whole-body jerk of him clutching and ripping WOT into 2nd
>dude would put his whole shoulder into the throttle
>completely crossed-up hang-off in every corner on a V Star 250
>50/50 on whether or not he would stay in the cones at those speeds
>almost binned the bike several times, even after being told to slow the fuck down or leave
>every time he took off, the whole class was waiting for him to earthsurf
>some people began videoing him, just in case
>instructors not-so-secretly wishing the same thing
>he was sternly told not to come back for the second day in front of the whole class
>ourfaceswhen

>>17356589
Licensing issues?

They make money of it, they are the sponsor of the bikes.

>>17356604
yeah like

"Oh no don't freely advertise my company or product pls stop."

>>17356601
I don't get people like, just be normal for the few hours of the test than act like a retard on the road if that is what you want to do.

>>17356630
Okay so if I started making t-shits with the honda logo on them, selling them for money, and made millions doing it, honda would not come after me?

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big thanks to the niggas who gave me some tips n shit to research on slow maneuvering last thread -- helped me pass motorcycle test for next license level today

>>17356578
Any issues with precipitation on saddlebags? Or is it all synthetic, water-proof materials nowadays? And how do those mount then? I just need one of those bike-specific but bag-universal racks that they strap to?

>>17356654
you wouldn't be selling any of them atm, lad.

Honda is shitting the bed in everything bar motoGP

>>17356654
yes because you are making money off the Honda brand.

honda aren't making money just because they slap respol on their bikes.

>>17356646

Right? He definitely felt like he had something to prove to a bunch of faggots that had never ridden motorcycles before. If he could have just calmed his titties for 7 hours over two days, he could have been legally riding. He fully admitted that he had been riding unlicensed for years prior to signing up for the class, much to everyone's non-surprise.

>>17356680
they are though if having that branding creates sales that otherwise wouldn't exist.

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>>17356654
Honda and Repsol have an sponsor agreement m8. The MotoGP team is called Repsol-Honda ffs, the cbr with the livery is just a extension of the agreement, not an unlicensed use of a brand.

>>17356297
Work harder.

>>17356694
I'm not trying to say they're doing it under the table or something like that, just wondering why they are one of the only ones who do it, assuming they actually are. I don't know like I said I'm not very knowledgeable about bikes.

Like if they have to pay to use the name why does it justify the cost to them and not others?

>>17356688
no, people want motogp replica bikes. that is it. if honda motogp bikes had nothing but the shit emoji all over them people would still buy them. respol pay honda to put their logo on their bikes to get eyes on the brand and because they know people will buy bikes with their brand on it serving as mobile billboards.

In your example people would be buying tee shirt for the honda brand and the brand alone.

No one gives a fuck about respol.

>>17356715
they aren't the only ones who do it m8.

>>17356728
I guess they're the only ones that stick out to me since it's so noticeable.
>>17356725
This one makes sense though.

>but bike
>no oem tool kit

>>17356742
t b h I'd rather not get a bunch of ancillary junk I already have and take a slightly lower price tag instead.

>>17356660
Ayyyy, good job, bro

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well after cleaning up the list and paying more attention i guess i'm startying on a daytona or a GSX-750 since i'm locked to a 250cc or a limited bike
i checked the blackbird like somebody suggested yesterday but i don't like it much

>>17356660
go lad!

Also, that cop is displaying a perfect Sumo body position

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>ZX7
>$8k
>i know what i has bro

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>$12,000 for this junk

>>17356923
that is a really nice font.

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why are these bikes always on a trailer dbt?

>>17356947
You know the answer ti that

>>17356108
If I knew a dealer that lets random retards test ride bikes, I wouldn't buy from them.

>>17356969
So you would buy a bike without riding it?

>>17356923
I'm convinced that every Ducati SportClassic in existence is for sale at all times, for at least 150% of it's original selling price. And none sell, ever.

>>17356999
I'm also interested in this. I'm under the impression that most people get a feel for bikes after riding their friends' bikes.

Tfw not enough bike friends.

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Do you guys keep your motorcycle key on its own keychain? If not, do you do anything to keep the other keys on the chain from jingling/scratching while riding?

illustrative pic snagged from google

>>17357044
My inpgnition is on the side under the seat, i just keep it on its own loop on my carabiner. And unhook it when i go to turn it on

>>17356673
>BOX FULLA NEUTRAL

>>17357048
>>17357044
yea, on its own loop on a carabiner is the only option.

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>>17356200

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I just found this site and god, I love it
it looks janky as hell but I'm so happy some said "this needs to exist" and built it.
http://www.gearingcommander.com/

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>>17357044

>>17357182
Thats fucking gay

>>17356108
the ducati/triumph dealer in manhattan will let you test ride with a mechanic after you sign liability forms. the honda dealer in LIC will do the same thing.

do you not have a license or something?

>>17357182
>carrying around a big rubber dildo because you're worried about getting tiny scratches on your off road bike

>>17357187
J E L L Y
E
L
L
Y

>>17357191
It's the stock key and it's neat. I don't have to take my carabiner off my belt loop now which is neat.

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>>17357182

What is it with you homos and carabiners? Just put your keys in your pocket.

Carabiners are almost as gay as cell phone holsters

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>>17356125
I remember when mine used to be clean...

>>17357190
I didn't go that far west yet, and yes I do have a license.

>>17357203
>put keys in phone pocket
>scratch screen
>put keys in wallet pocket
>digs into your thigh all day
>put wallet in back pocket
>get back problems and nerve damage
or I could just hook them to my belt loop and never notice them

>>17357203
I agree with this post 100%. Not only does it make you look like a raging mong but it's a great way to make your keys easy as fuck to lift.

>>17357044
I take my motorcycle key off the ring when riding. You dont really want those dangling around anyway.

>>17357215
Carabineers are literal autism

>>17357182
Next level. Whats that called?

>>17357215
Or do the smart thing and put your phone and wallet in one pocket with the phone facing your leg to protect it and your keys and other shit in the other.

Works fine if you don't have a bloated ass old man wallet with a dozen expired cards in it.

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>>17357044
Bike, house and ferd keys. This is my favorite set of keys because it's only my favorite things.

>>17357182
seems silly to me that it's the key that falls out instead of the cap. Like you probably won't lose the key since you'd have to be several levels of careless but it's still dumb

>>17357224
Mine is a single piece of titanium that's a bottle opener, it's literal awesome
>>17357229
idk it's just the key they gave me
>>17357230
>having a giant bulge and having to organize your pocket even with a reasonable size wallet is any better than having keys on a loop
nah
>>17357238
I could attach the key ring on the key side but that doesn't make any sense, I'd just have a plastic key cover to carry around or not use. This makes sense, and it's kinda hard to get out so I know it won't just fall out. Also, it's trained me to never leave my key in my bike.

>>17356119
Road side motor sports

>>17357250
>Mine is a single piece of titanium that's a bottle opener, it's literal awesome
That's a very autistic response to my statement

>>17357236
having more than one ring on your keys is literal autism

>>17357255
>>17357236
Oh wait, I forgot you aspire to janitorial levels of success, carry on

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>when you start to realize that people use "autist" to mean "someone who values doing things in the best / most efficient way more than they value what people think of them"

>>17357255
The reason behind that is the two Yamaha keys are different, one is for the gas tank and one for the bike itself.

This is the reason I have two key rings, there's not a better solution that I've found yet

>>17357250
>having a giant bulge
Did you miss the part about not having a bloated old man wallet?

What, did you fall for the phone case meme or some shit? You know that phones are like 1/4" thick if that right?

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This happened to my drain bolt, it is due for a change. I have been doing it myself and I fucked up yesterday. I was thinking about figuring out how to get it off myself and ordering a new one. I feel like a bike shop would just end up charging me a lot. thoughts?

>>17357268
Use an electric impact gun after you source a replacement.

Also crush washers are for numales

>>17357268
>figuring out how to get it off myself
vise grips

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>>17357265
Nigger it's still annoying in any type of well fitting pants
Quit wearing cargo pants you fucking autist

>>17357276
>Not putting your wallet in your back pocket

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>>17357276
literally any pair of jeans or any non-faggot tier skintight pants will hold that just fine.

Is this you?

>>17357268
locking vicegrips

>>17357284
>literally giving yourself scoliosis
>>17357285
No I wear Levi 511s like everyone else.

>>17357323
Getting back issues is for far people and those who do manual labor for a living.

>>17357333
>Far people
Fat people*

>>17355977
impact gun, breaker bar, not being a bitch, etc.

Might have to drill it out, but that's not so bad once you get down to doing it.

>>17357210
Hah, same. My GSXR looks like it has been crashed fifty times because it probably has been.

Straight, set up, and dialed in. The engine purrs and goes fast as shit. I love that thing.

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>>17357044
From the top anti-clockwise

Main loop
\_tag from festival
\_car
\_front door
\_back door
\_locker loop
| \_work locker
| \_bike shed
| \_tag
\_alt bike loop
| \_top box
| \_disc lock
\_carabiner
. \_usb loop
. | \_kali Linux
. | \_crypto keys
. \_bike loop
. \_bike key
. \_tag

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>>17357276
>Gayest keyboard like ever

>>17356449
>the fuck do you need a car? bike is all you need.
dont fall for the meme, kids

>>17356580
>>17356589
"I've never heard of advertising and sponsorships"

autistic bait

>>17357367
wew lad
and which bike are you?
curious about the rider with kali and external crypto keys on his chain

>>17357262
I think it has more to do with people posting collages of those bike ergo sites like it fucking means anything if you haven't sat on the bike.

Or autistically meme stuff like gs500s like they aren't cheap shitheaps.

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>>17357414

>>17356107
Don't get a hayabusa for a first bike get a ninja 250/300 or anything that is around 200/400cc

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>>17357261
He doesn't even have that many keys. Must not be important.

>>17357404
ybr125

>>17357449
T. Total scrub

>>17357475
You're extra annoying today. Why are you in a bad mood KKK?

>>17357475
did you start on a 1300cc sports tourer that is literally built to go 200mph

>inb4 advertised 186mph
It definitely goes quicker than 186

>>17357487
First of all you're new
Second he's trolling
Third it never went 200mph

>>17357493
It does if de restricted

>>17356107
perfect choice

>>17357502
So does my EG hatch with a few simple mods

>>17357502
Drz makes 110hp derestricted with a few simple mods

>>17357479
I'm actually in a good mood t b h. I got a new helmet so I feel like hot shit

>>17357487
no one actually starts on a busa anon.

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Thoughts on RC125?

>>17357546
Slow

>>17357558
yeah but unfortunately I am not allowed to ride anything bigger yet.

>>17357572
>not allowed

>>17357546
Shitbike for indians to ride around on while pretending they are riding a real bike.

>>17357572
If you're going to get something limited to 125cc, get something meant for dirt or get a 2 stroke.

>>17357579
UK laws.

Of course I could go get something bigger but I can't insure it and if I get caught doing this I lose my license entirely.

>>17357590
>if I get caught doing this I lose my license entirely
Just get something fast enough to run from the cops on that will kill you outright if you fail to escape them

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Just did a 300km round trip through the twisties to Port Renfrew with some older guys.
Where did /dbt/ go today?

>>17357599
I went on a ride to Boulder and ate a meh lunch and bought a cutting board

>>17357599
To work and then to get some lunch when I'm off in 30.

If I buy a newer DR 650 can I have a dealer install a Kickstart just in case my battery dies?

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I just got back from my MSF course and I feel like i just got my first taste of heroin send help

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I finally got a job /dbt/ I'll have a baiku in no time

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>>17357682
I'm happy for you anon!
do you have cash for gear/bike ready to go? what's the plan from here?

>>17357044
I have 5 motorcycles. Each has its own keychain (something soft and short).

My truck key is also by itself with nothing but a tiny flashlight as a keychain.

I fucking hate huge rings of keys. My house key has a small keychain and a USB drive, that's it.

>>17357688
im looking at groms and cheap ninja 250s to start out... i dont want anything too fast

>>17357700
u will tho

>>17357686
>tfw I said the same thing in December and am still nobike, even though I made enough money in a month
curse procrastination + social anxiety
I wanted to test ride some this weekend but...

>>17357700
Get a 500. Or an sv650. Lowest cc you should get is 250 but only if it's a ninja or CBR. Anything else won't work on a public highway

>>17357700
where do you live?
riding a smaller bike is actually more dangerous, just say you have a car about to rear end you but you have time to accelerate away only your bike is not powerful enough to do so.
or you need to over take a slow vehicle on a tight road you want that done as fast as possible not at a snails pace.

>>17357707
Do it. A bike will help fix your social anxiety.

Why do bikes go by displacement only instead of power or power/weight?

The displacement alone seems like a fairly useless statistic.

>>17357700
Depends on where you live. I used to be a HUGE proponent of a ninja 250 or similar except in extreme cases. They I moved to Colorado where the highways are concrete and the speed limits are 75 in many places. My girlfirend's Ninja 250 is NOT suited for these conditions.

>>17357719
I bet you shoot a 1911 and think .22lr rounds bounce around in peoples' skulls.

>>17357686
proud of u Anon

>>17357724
Because insurance companies are stupid and normies don't know anything about vehicles except bigger number = faster

If I take a fiero, put a bodykit on it, slap a bugatti badge on it, and say it's a new Bugatti Negrotron 9000 they'll think it's fast.

>>17357700
>i dont want anything too fast

everyone says this but you will outgrow a 250 quickly and get bored and regret getting it, get a 600, perfect for around town or cruising at highway speed and not deadly fast.

>>17357700
What do you want to use a bike for? Touring? Racing?

List use and I'll happily tell you the fastest thing you can get without killing yourself.

>>17357733
>>17357727
>>17357700
There's never any reason to regret a Ninja 250 because they do not appreciate. Don't like it anymore? Sell it for whatever you paid for it, or more.

>>17357733
Post chickenstrips.

I asked here about a week ago about my DR650 stalling sometimes when I give it throttle, and it having a much lower top speed and weaker than normal top end. Everyone said to clean the carbs. Well I the carb apart and it was already so clean I could have eaten off of it. I have no idea where to turn next. I fucking hate this shitty bike.

>>17357727
a .22 sometimes fails to kill a rabbit or a fox if you shoot them between the eyes so yeah i could see why people would think they can be insufficient for killing people...

>>17357763
lol

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>>17357755
Do you know what the pilot jet is?
we told you to replace it because it is probably clogged, cost like $3 to replace a pilot jet.

and what do you expect the inside of a carby to look like?
if there is visible shit inside it then the entire thing is likely completely fucked.

>>17357773
>hold on sir while i pump 15 .22 rounds into you to unsure a kill

>>17357785
you literally know nothing

>>17357776
I don't remember reading anything about replacing a pilot jet, might have been a reply after I left. I will look I to replacing it then.

>>17357776
I thought the pilot jet primarily affected the mixture at idle?

>>17357790
t. someone who thinks a .22 is a weapon for home defense

>>17357796
no, I don't, but the idea that you can shoot a rabbit in the brain with a .22 and fail to kill it is absolutely laughable

>>17357795
id be replacing all the jets just to be sure.
like i said they are cheap, literally a few dollars each.

>>17357716
everything im finding on craigslist thats over 500 cc and isnt a cruiser is too high for my budget. Im looking for bikes for like 2000 to 2500 and id i do find something with decent power in that price range its usually beat to hell.

im also looking at sv650s but the only one i can find around me on craigslist has been on there for months so it makes me think that its going to be shit.
>>17357719
i live in a suburb but its right outside of the city so theres a bunch of traffic and stuff.

>>17357737
i want to use it for commuting but i also want to do some small bike track days... there a course about 50 miles away from me and they host some track days for 250s and 300s

>>17357798
Well it is what happens, you wouldn't go out roo hunting with a .22 because it probably won't kill a roo.

>>17357807
>Well it is what happens,
No, it doesn't. A bullet to the CNS is virtually guaranteed to be death.

>>17357813
not with a .22 though.
why do you think they are more than they are?

whats next are you going to tell me a 20 pound recurve bow is sufficient for hunting too?
because a .22 has about as much power behind it as an arrow coming from a 20 pound recurve bow...

>>17357755
I'll relieve you of this burden, anon

just let me know where you are so I can come pick it up

>>17357822
Reality isn't a video game. Significant damage to the CNS will result in death regardless of what causes it. A .22 will kill a rabbit, a human, or anything else if the bullet strikes the brain 99.99% of the time.

The reason .22s are not used to everything is because you obviously cannot always guarantee a brain shot and small calibers like that do not have enough penetration to reach major blood vessels or blood bearing organs to cause death by bleed out, which is the far more likely result due to the much larger target area.

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>>17357721
when I make phone calls I type up everything I want to say first, so that I don't spaghetti and forget something or leave the wrong number on an answering machine etc.

I have no friends to help me inspect used bikes, and no friend bikes to practice inspecting on, so I'm writing up my own checklist assembled from the many checklist articles/blogs/videos on the web. I'm not quite done but it has ~150 items on it. It's this long because where a video would say something like "check that all the dash indicators work", mine says
>both turn signals and both top green turn signal indicators work
>high beam and far right blue indicator work
>headlight flasher switch works
>far left green neutral indicator lights in N and no other gear (test ride)
>left button toggles through [odometer, trip A, trip B]
>clock readout bottom left
>coolant temperature readout bottom right
>key ON & engine OFF = oil symbol ON & red indicator ON
>engine ON = oil symbol OFF & red indicator OFF
>no blinking or solid "FI" readout
>no "CHEC" readout
>yellow fuel indicator lit 3 seconds when key turns ON, then turns off
>horn works
>bar killswitch kills engine if running & prevents starting if not running
>hazard ON & key ON/PARK = all 4 signals and dash indicators flash

I'm writing all this basic shit down because how am I supposed to memorize what is and isn't normal for a model I've never seen before and with a total of two afternoons riding experience in a parking lot in february?

Of course within a week of buying something and riding it consistently, 90% of the shit on my paper will be instinctual. But right now everything is book learning for me. No practical experience to hang memories on. I feel like a Chinese kid in the nineties who "learned" English in school and then moved to the US. His English SUCKS cause he's never used it. You learn English by speaking it with English speakers. You learn bikes by riding/fixing bikes. Fuck.

>>17357831
The fact is though a .22 often is not powerful enough to hit the brain, the bullets bounces off the skulls of small animals for christs sake.
might knock them the fuck out but they still get back up.

>>17357851
>the bullets bounces off the skulls of small animals for christs sake.
no, it does not

>>17357856
Not if you hit them square, but that's not always the case. Shoot a deer in the forehead with a .22 and it'll bounce up.

>>17357862
And the same thing could happen with many calibers with an extremely acute angle of attack.

Standard FBI spec 10% ballistic gel tests of .22 prove that .22 has more than enough penetration to go through a skull as compared to other calibers.

>>17357869
>ballistic gel is a good test of the human skull
no.

>>17357890
FBI spec 10% ballistic gel tests are used as a standardized test for the testing of penetration and expansion of projectiles, like a wind tunnel for planes or cars.

If one bullet achieves 12" of penetration and another 13" it gives you a reference of their relative performance.

If you are a stone age fudd who insists on shooting meat in your backyard google is your friend.

https://www.survivalmonkey.com/threads/22-cal-penetration-test-on-fresh-deer-skull.30585/

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So what can you expect with a 42k mile 600rr? I'm thinking of offering 2700.I"ve never had USD forks before.

https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mcy/6169482511.html

>>17357845
>I have no friends to help me inspect used bikes
where you at senpai

>>17357925
Dallas

thinking of just having a bike as the only vehicle i own. in a few years i figure self driving uber cars will be everywhere anyways, if i needed a car ride. thoughts on this line of reasoning?

>>17357975
I've been doing it for the last 4 years without issue

>>17357975
Fucking stupid.
A small pickup truck and bike is ideal.

>>17357993
I see people talk about trucks all the time but most people only use the bed of their truck to haul shit from home depot or something.

If you have a large home project to do you can just rent a truck, if you are constantly buying fistfuls of 2x4s I don't know what you'd do.

>>17357825
Central PA. It's yours if you buy me lunch.

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>>17357975
>Please tell me this doesn't run on gas! Gas explodes, you know!

>>17358020
damn I forgot this movie existed

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Did someone paint harley on a Honda bike?

>>17358025
i don't know how i misread your comment, but i opened that pic expecting to see a harley in REPSOL livery and was very disappointed
someone should make it happen

>>17357993
Trucks are for cucks like KKK

>>17357993
Only owning a bike is not dumb, but having a pickup to haul bikes around is useful.
No reason not to own a truck if your DD is a fuel efficient bike.

>>17358025
Seems like they put a harley fuel tank on a honda.
They also tried to write 399.

>>17358025
>>17358042
What do you think the make and model might have been? Looks 80s something

>>17358039
>No reason not to own a truck if your DD is a fuel efficient bike.
bretty good question in there, what would be the best fuel efficient bike? and by that I don't mean the most fuel efficient but the best complete package that is also fuel efficient?

I don't really think there would be a whole lot of difference between manufacturers but what do I know

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What do you guys think about jockey shifters and suicide clutches?

>>17357922
pls respond. An 05 Honda SS below 3k sounds pretty good, even at the mileage. Am I looking an imminent engine failure?

>>17358039
What about being poor as a reason

>>17358063
Stupid.

>>17358053
F700gs gets like 55mpg and runs on regular. Pretty versatile bike too.
Same could probably be said for the SV650, Versys etc. Mid displacement twins tend to be in the sweet spot

>>17358063
neato

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Got a little 212cc predator minibike for 100$ on craigslist, honestly some of the most fun ive had romping around town in the bike lane. Found out today i can get a performance air filter and carb jet for 40$ as well. Seat is shitty so im thinking of custom making a custom tall seat like they used to put on Japanese cruisers back in the day. Any other mini-bikes here?

>>17358112
Ur a fukin ritard

>>17358112
that's gotta be fun as fuck. I once found a scooter in a junk yard and i got it running again. Bombing aroudn the city in that was just childlike glee.

>>17358013
its for transportation of said bike and future bikes. plus you can move shit for your friends and charge them for it.

>>17358121
Tru
>>17358125
It's a good time, cops were laughing at me in the taco bell parking lot, lots of guys laughing on the sidewalks, only people that seemed actually butthurt were the ones on bicycles

>>17358025
looks like a sportster tank, so no, its just a sporty tank on an old honda

>>17358063
You need a pair of Red Wings and a beard to go with that

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>>17358063
that shifter on an evo is AIDS. if it was on a flathead or a knuckle itd be cool. jockey shifters are only cool on knuckls, pans, and shovels if theyre a full chopper

>>17358171
>tfw have beard and redwings but wouldnt be caught on that disaster of a bike

>>17357845
>no friends to help me inspect used bikes
What about your dad? I knew piss all about engines when I was buying my bike, I just read the guide on clarity. I'm a social anxious fuck though so it was helpful having my dad because your judgement can get clouded when in unfamiliar territory and you just want to buy a bike and be done with it.
>no friend bikes to practice inspecting on
You probably won't buy the first bike you go to check out as most people on CL are idiots. Watch some videos on youtube, look for vids of people doing repairs related to the problems you're looking for. Bring your checklist.

Used bikes are a gamble, I searched for months and ended up buying the 2nd bike I checked out.
>Research the model online for common issues and reliability
>Look up the prices of replacement parts for certain things to negotiate price
>Make sure the bike is registered with valid inspection
>Have seller cold start it then test ride or have him ride it

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Thinking about a KLR650 as my first bike. Anybody here got experience with them and want to share?

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weather was too nice today. squidded with no jacket but a pair of gloves. got a wicked 3/4 farmer tan goin

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>>17358025
Nah does seem to be a harley, they did make dirt bikes in the 70's.
not 100% sure what that exact one is though.

>>17357922

already looked at this bike and its worth $2500

>looks good for far a way
>needs new side fairings
>appears to be dropped on both sides
>needs new tires
>could use a new chain/sprocket

>>17358210
Klr is the shittiest, get a dr650 or xr650. Or get a drz or wr250r if you want something smaller. Dual sports are the best

>>17358177
nice bike, but dat numale face doe

>>17358233
>Or get a drz or wr250r
I like the DRZ but Ive heard they're like, unfixably horrible for riding on pavement for any length of time.

I'm vaguely aware of the DR but I'm nervous about aftermarket and availability of parts. KLR is far more common it seems.

>>17358233
wr250r is for poor/lazy people who cant afford or even do the maintenance on a wr450f

Best way to fix an exhaust leak? I have a clamp on it but it's bent and I can see the black soot on the pipe. I also have a small hole in my pipe at near the end.

>>17358237
pic is from 21 days under the sky. pretty cool movie if you can get past the hipsters
>>17358245
>I'm vaguely aware of the DR but I'm nervous about aftermarket and availability of parts
nigga the aftermarket for DR650's is bretty pig

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>>17358237
yeah hes quite a character. he builds some wacky knuckleheads, the red one is for a show later in the month called Born Free out in ca. sadly im in the chiraq area and my bike isnt exactly a road trip bike. @3gknuck on instagram

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Is the xr650r really an underrated god machine?

>>17358264
>green bike's fuel tank
fucking kek

>>17358227
thank you. how do those motors hold up? I'm torn between that 600rr, an F4i, or an 09 650s with only 2200 miles. The rr is actually the cheapest option of hte three.

>>17358277
depends on what you call under rated, theyre pretty universally known as a godbike

>>17358277
>underrated
wrong
they're highly coveted

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>>17358280
its obviously a show bike, with those apes i bet your arms would be toast in no time flat

>>17358295
You mean it is useless?

>trying to glean useful information from my state's complete vehicle registration code (a 344 page pdf)
is this what growing up feels like?

>>17358245
If you plan on doing alot of highway miles or long distance trip then yes a 650 is way better, drzs are pretty buzzy on the highway and it makes me nervous riding with the rpms that high constantly on mine. Also, i thought the dr had the most aftermarket out of the 3?
>>17358250
And the wr450 is for people too lazy/poor for a cr500 supermoto

>>17358304
pretty much

>>17358309
supermotos are just for faggots that can't do climbs, whoops or jumps off road so they ride around on city streets while doing power wheelies and rev bombing at grannies.

>>17358295
basically. its only purpose is to be fuckin weird and thats what its good at

>>17358331
meant for
>>17358303

>>17358261
weldign or replacement is the only way. YOu need to make friends with someone who will tack a bit of metal on it. Takes like 2 seconds.

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>>17358325
Or for people who want a light fun to ride bike
>Implying people dont own actual dirtbikes and supermotos

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>>17358277
with a little work theyre great dualsports on top of being a badass desert racer

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>tfw took muh xr600 out for the first time today
>tfw almost looped a wheelie in front of a bunch of suburban moms walking their dogs

>>17358293
>>17358288
>>17358376
I generally like to find a project for relatively cheap that I can work on to get something great by investing my free time rather than money. Hidden gems are obviously ideal for that, and from my googling xr650r seems like a good candidate, would you guys agree or is there something better?

>tfw put my foot down and crossed the line on box during msf test
Passed atleast

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>>17358277
My friend has one with a big 7.3L desert tank on it.
Feels heavier than my 701 even though it probably isn't even with all that gas, kicking it sucks for me at 5'8". Nice adv bike though.

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>>17358406
you have to invest money on them, theyre old enough that most need to have the engine gone through and caught up on rebuilds.
i have a rolling chassis and a complete but disassembled and in need of a rebuild engine that im trying to sort out what to do with now.

>>17358432
Well yeah I didn't mean literally zero dollars just less than buying something brand new.

The fact that I can make a lot of parts and do machine work on small engines saves me a lot of money.

>>17358336
Thanks. Nothing I can put around the clamp?

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>>17358442
figure on a 650r that if the bike is in good shape youll probably want to budget out for a new rod, piston and have cylinder replated.
i say this because when the big end of the rod gets out of spec itll run just fine but eventuially itll eat the thrust washers and then the whole thing goes to shit real fast.
>pic related, one of 4 gatherings of bronze after the rod went and took the piston and cylinder and crank with it
millennium technologies does excellent work for the replate and crank rebuild if you go that route.

>>17358384
>doing wheelies without learning to cover the rear brake
Enjoy your broken rear subframe in the future.

>>17358177
So they feel shit on evo's? I got an evo

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>tfw actually got to see this glorious son of a bitch run
Words cannot describe the sound it makes.

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1983-87 Honda XL600R
>589cc
>43HP
>295lbs dry, 315lbs wet
1993-pres Honda XR650L
>644cc
>31HP (stock dyno)
>324lbs dry, 348lbs wet
1990-pres Suzuki DR650
>644cc
>35HP (stock dyno)
>324lbs dry, 357lbs wet

>ywn be able to buy an XR600/XL600 brand spanking new from the factory ever again
seriously considering suicide

>>17358473
not saying itd feel shitty, its just that an evo is more advanced and on a modern bike like that i think it just is pointless. maybe if it was on a vintage styled bike with an evo plant it might work, but thatd piss of harley guys probably

>>17358489
is that the "you can hear it on the mainland when they race it on the isle" bike?

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>>17358514
Harley guys are already pissed at Sportsters for being girl bikes.

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Put pod filters on the baiku, now I have a free empty space where the airbox is, under the seat, what should I do with the space? dildo container? water bottle? tool storage?

>>17358549
dead puppy

>>17358549
body pillow

>>17358524
they can go fuck themselves. 883's maybe but a 1200 evo is decent in my eyes

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>>17358549

>>17358524
I have a sportster. I like it fine, may switch to 1200 eventually but I'm not feeling like I'm short on power, I don't get the the whole 'girl bike' thing. But whatever

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Alright so since it's dual sport time apparently, let's talk about the DR650. Is it an old-ish classic that still kicks ass and doesn't need anything new or is it a heap of outdated bullshit?

>>17358570
its just nerds who think more bigger is more better

So the sticky information suggests that for a first bike you don't buy anything older than a decade. Why is that?

More specifically, I found a nice 1997 Suzuki Savage LS650 that fits all of the other qualifications. What do you guys think?

>>17358509
>XL600R
>43HP
no

>>17358574
>outdated
its completely fine, a good commuter that can also handle some offroad.

the dr and drz are both designed as dirt bikes that can handle street, the dr more street, and the drz more dirt

for most people the difference between the two is fairly negligible if comparing a similar year. obviously a 2016 drz with 3x3+jet+pipe is going to be different than a bone stock '07dr650

>>17358580
older the bike more things you will have to replace. also the convenience of having electric start compared to carbs. if you find a good bike thats 20 years old, just keep in mind that its 20 fucking years old so the cables and electronics could shit out on you after you ride away

>>17358424
It's like 30lbs heavier plus all that fuel in the fuckhuge tank.

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>>17358565
>>17358570
I started on a 1200 sportster, they're dope. Now it just sits in my garage broken most of the time, until I throw some money at it.

>>17358580
fuck em. my first bike was/is a 1980 GS550. its a little finicky when its cold but whatever

>>17358574
suspension is dated as hell but with a little work does just fine.
engine is pretty anemic out of the crate but it just needs to be uncorked and it wakes it up a lot.
pretty solid dualsport all around

>>17358281

how much spending money do you have?

>>17358586
That's the only rating I can find online but it's still much lighter than the current offerings.

So the consensus seems to be that it's not NECESSARILY a bad idea. I'm concerned it might be a little too powerful for me... I've only ever ridden the 250cc I used during the MSF course. Anything I should know when I go to test ride it?

>>17358595
Alright. Sounds good. So if I think about it, be sure to be extra scrutinizing of electrics and things that are presumably more age-sensitive.

>>17358600
I'll keep it in mind. Thanks.

>>17358622
Shit, it's a 650cc.
LS650 Savage guy here.

>>17358598
Sporties are cheap to work on, just takes time to work out all the kinks In the carb. That's honestly what I love about them. But I enjoy maintenance anyway

>>17358580
My first bike was a 1981 XS400, it spent a good amount of time laid up waiting for parts, which sucked since its only really feasible to ride from April through November so working on the bike ate a of my spring time I could have spent riding.

Since I literally put the bike together I had a little trouble grappling with whether I was doing something wrong with riding or if the bike wasn't right.

For example my first time on the highway I was getting speed wobbles and assumed it was the tire balance or rear wheel alignment when it was simply me gripping the bars too tight.

I'd say avoid anything with Carbs and Drums for your first bike.

If I had to do it all over again I would have plunked down the extra thousand or so for a newer Ninja 250.

>>17358636
Solid advice. I appreciate it. I just don't have the extra thousand or so... :c

What's so bad about carbs and drums exactly?

Also; any input on my size concerns?
Only ever ridden a 250. Am I going to kill myself?

>>17357983
planning on doing this soon as well. How do you do shopping and stuff with no car? >>17357983

>>17358622
get it into 3rd gear at least, go in a circle, test all the lights, after doing a test ride let it sit for a few minutes while you talk about football or whatever, look for any leaks. look at his garage for oil spots, ask about motorcycle shit to see if he knows what he is doing or if he just never repairs anything

>>17358652
Gotcha. I mean more specifically with the size concern. When I mount this thing is it going to rocket into a wall if I try to get it moving in much the same way I handled a 250?

>>17358217
you like ryan gosling movies?

>>17358659
same with any other bike. pull the clutch in, ease it out to find the sticking point. dont give any throttle yet, but coast a few feet with just the clutch. afterwards pull it in, and do the same thing with a little throttle, then slowly shift through the gears. if you are getting to 2nd/3rd gear with barely moving your wrist, then just be careful. there are so many factors that go into throttle response, toss in two decades and who the fuck knows. a 1200cc cruiser from the '80s and from '17 are two completely different beasts.

be smart, think about your actions as you do them, and ask yourself if you are willing to give more throttle than you need just to test it out before getting to know it. take it easy at first, but see how it handles when you give it a little juice. you might as well know how the bike functions before slapping your hard-earned goy bucks into some retards mitts.

>>17358245
>unfixably horrible for riding on pavement for any length of time
Whoever told you that was retarded.
DR or XR if lots of travelling, DRZ or WR if more time commuting/hooning.
Any of those bikes will do either though.
Don't touch the KLR.

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>>17358025
Harley Davidson Baja 100?

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Blog post incoming...

CM250C bro survived his first big adventure. 440mi round trip through treacherous winds, loose shale roads, the path of a tornado (not related to the previously mentioned winds) and some lovely hail.

The wind going down south was insane. Normally I can cruise around 55-60, and can push it to 70 if I want to be daring. I had to just sit at WOT in 4th gear most the whole trip south to keep it at 55. Mileage went from 53-59 mpg typical to 44 mpg. It was amazing to pass through a section with trees on the sides and just watch the speedo start climbing.

And at the end of the trip, Mistress Google decided 'hey, you must be bored of these nice paved roads, let me redirect you onto this soft packed shale shit that you have to traverse at 10mph while shitting your pants every 3 feet'. The hard packed gravel was no problem, but shit there was some nasty stuff out there. Someone else in the group had issues in it with their truck. WTF?

On the way back, ended up going through Litchberg about 3 hours after a tornado hit. Ended up having to play road crew and help clear limbs to get around on some of the back roads I was taking. And got to drive on the shoulder to make clearance for a Bobcat dragging what appeared to be the roof of a barn down the highway.

And got back to the Mpls area just after the storms dumped enough hail that it was clogging up the storm drains and they had the snow plows out to clear it.

/blog

>pic related, an offering to the Baird on the first break of the trip

>>17358772
Did you get hit by any hail?

>>17358776
There was big stuff hitting my helmet here and there, not sure if it was actual hail or just big ass raindrops.

>>17358633
The carb was a cunt on the one I sold, but that's cause ive never dicked with carbs before.

>>17358646
Carbs need to be kept CLEAN, your first time cleaning a carb you WILL do it 3 times.

More carbs = cleaning.

Drum brakes are just all around poor quality, they don't give you much confidence, also much harder to work with than pads and rotors if you do your own work. The only "nice" thing is most bike drum brakes are simple cable operated, which means no bleeding. BUT it does mean lubing the cable frequently.

A pad change on my FZR600 takes maybe 15 minutes start to finish, on the XS400 I have to pull the wheel.

I still say for a beginner a newer bike with easier to work on parts is far better than a cheaper older bike. Most of what you "save" buying an old bike you lose in parts and down time.

>>17358648
Backpack, top box, panniers, bungee net. Never been an issue.

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