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first for honda a good, but not necessarily the best

but still the best

>>17199381
flexibiIity in the frame gives feedback and compliance to the rider. Super stiff frames feel and handle terrible. Just look at Ducati's first attempts at carbon fiber motoGP bikes.

>>17199416
That's a funny way of spelling Yamaha.

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>>17199408
yeah, it was in february
>still nobike

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>>17199452
that's a cute cat

daily reminder no one likes bikers and your neighbors hate you and think you are making up for something below the waist, Which you are

>>17199462
daily reminder that bikers have enough confidence to not care what beta numale cucks think about them or what they have going on below the waist.

>wipe dirt off tire
>can't tell where chicken strips begin other than nubs on the edge of the tire
Not sure if smaller than expected or actually massive

>>17199462
>his neighbours don't all ride bikes
my neighbours all have both road and dirt bikes and we all ride them in the bush out the back of our properties together.

>>17199462
but anon
my 50-something neighbor and his wife both have sofftails and go for long rides every saturday like clockwork

>>17199408
My MSF course had a cop looking to be a motorcycle cop, a chick who made it through two sections before panicking and quitting, anf an old dude with a bum hip who dropped his bike a few times.

One of my buddies offed himself, so the night before my MSF course my friends and I went out to the lake and got p drunk, had a bon fire and got visted by the police.

I waited hours trying to sober up, then I drove an hour home at 3 AM, then 3 more hours to where my MSF course was held.

It was the middle of August, the course was held at a small airfield, and I was hung over as fuck. The first day was miserable.

Blogpost complete.

>>17199462
daily reminder that im saving thousands in toll fees every month

we live in a world where owning a car is looked down upon, the people in charge are not aware that motorcycles exists so all the laws being created to inconvenience drivers have yet to target us.

I was sent at from first MSF because could not ride.
Absolutely could not ride even bicycle.

>>17199483
>One of my buddies offed himself
You should follow his lead.

>>17199408
had my first motorcycle training at the honda safety driving center learning to ride on a honda tmx150

only learned that its important to hold my helmet under the arm, like the stig. which dosent make sense to me cuz he never takes off his helmet. But at least I don't carry my helmet around from the chin strap.

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>>17199408
>Do you remember what YOUR MSF course was like?
yeah, riding around a football field sized parking lot on honda 250's with a dozen other people from literally every demographic, it seamed like some sort of anime
>old cruiser fart who smoked a pack on break
>young asian dude who drove a lancer evo
>middle aged blond lady who failed her test the first time
>a couple young guys fresh out of highschool like I was at the time
>a bunch of not quite young guys who roped their girlfriends into coming
>and a lesbian who hit on all the guys girlfriends

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>>17199516
>it seamed like some sort of anime

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>>17199494

>>17199521
in the sense that it was fairly surreal and slightly unbelievable at times

riding around on klx250's for a few hours, was actually pretty fun the instructor was a cool guy and let everyone ride the bikes as fast as they could handle riding them while we were practicing for the test.

I took the beginner and the intermediate. (Fuck you, they were free.). Completely different staff, but the same archetypes:
>hi-viz cuck
>cool harley guy
>token minority

I think I was the only white guy at the basic; there was a dot Indian who had learned in India and then a bunch of hood niggas with Harleys. Also a mousy Asian philosophy major, who turned up for the practical in Chuck Taylors and got kicked out.

>>17199483
Good story, srs. Would make a good longer essay if you felt like fleshing it out. Sorry about your friend.

>>17199484
TECHNICALLY I have to pay just as much as the cars on the Bay Bridge

Course, they can't mail you a ticket if you don't have plates on...

so I'm the guy looking to buy the cb500f from a dealer.

If the sticker price is $4599, and the salesdude quoted me $5400 something out the door, is it reasonable to pitch $4900/$4800 out the door?

>>17199540
why a cb500f?
don't they make the 650's in your country?

>>17199540
How about you not buy a shit tier motorcycle instead?

>>17199538
Eh, what can you do.

Some people just become an hero without warning.

>>17199544
>>17199547
Lol, no. Trust me I'd absolutely be getting the 650F if I could.

CB500f because it fits my use case and I like how it looks the most from bikes in my price range, and it's cheap and since it's been sitting in the dealer's room for 2 years I'm hoping I can get a good deal on it.

That's why I'm asking if my offer is going to be reasonable.

>>17199540
I don't know where you live so I cant quote you a number, but look up your states/localities taxes and registration/title fees and then add that to the price

>>17199551
Stop trying to rationalize you're shit choice in motorcycles.

Go buy a used SV650 for half the price.

>>17199551
>I'm hoping I can get a good deal on it.
good luck getting a good deal at a dealership

there is a reason they're refereed to as stealerships

>>17199540
Absolutely

>>17199540
It's reasonable to pitch $3,000 on a much better used bike. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? $5k for a shitty honda p-twin?

Speaking of oil, what do you guys like to use? Of course the manufacturer's recommended weight, but what oil? How about filter?

>>17199579
yamalube. It's what plants crave

>>17199552
Florida.
>Base: $4599
>FL Sales Tax 6%: $275.94
>New Title Fee: $77.35
>New Registration Fee: $10

my calculations show $4962.29

>>17199570
>>17199558
¯\_(少)_/¯

>>17199579
Purolator PureOne filter (the yellow, textured bitches) and whatever decent oil I can find for a reasonable price. Generally runs me about $25-30 for a 5qt+filter.

I've run Rotella before, got some cheap Pennzoil ($10 for a 5qt on sale) for my upcoming service, considering Rotella again or Castrol for the one after that.

>>17199581
Bro, seriously unfuck yourself dude. You're making a horrible mistake. You're going to spend way more than you have to, to buy a bike that's not very good nor desirable.

What reasons could you possible have that make you want that bike?

>>17199594
Leave him alone. He has his own tastes, let them be

>>17199594
I don't care about speed, I don't really want a sportbike, I don't see it as an investment, while not the most attractive it's the best looking bike I can afford new, I don't want another used bike right now, it's good enough for me.

Sure I could link my craigslist and you guys could show me a bunch of bikes that are better (and I'd agree they're better too) but it doesn't really matter in the end if they're not the bike I want.

>>17199605
thank you

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What did you do today bike related repost.

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>>17199579
last oil change i used pic

>>17199607
learn to want things we want, fag

>>17199614
ate a bunch of chili samples at my dead end grocery store job
put a bunch of tobasco in it too
I think I channeled hell through my anus about 15 minutes ago

asked how to negotiate a lower price on a new bike on /dbt/ and got yelled at for having shit taste instead of having my question answered for the umpteenth time

getting ready to go to the gym

>>17199614
Taught my wife to ride, which has never even sat on a motorcycle. Just taught her clutch control and let her stay in 1st and ride around an empty parking lot. She wants one now and to take the msf course. Pretty good day. Except my gf got mad I let my wife ride my bike

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>>17199614
dropped my bike off at the dealer for warranty work

>>17199579
Oem oil and filter for my Indian, but Polaris is gay and uses weird 15w60 oil.

I use oem filters and rotella t6 in the gfs ninja 250.

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I went ahead and installed a projector HID into my naked, spent most of the time trying to figure out a place for the wiring (CCFL-inverter, HID-ballast, relay harness). I think it looks breddy good but fair warning to anyone wanting to do this with those standard halogen housings (iirc 200wide160deep); don't, unless you have tools, materials and too much time, it's way too much work to make it nice and fit.

Validate my handicraft?

>>17199631
That's what I have to change oil on, my scout sixty. So I'm best off just paying the $80 for their kit

>>17199644
Woooow that looks really fucking good man. How well does it light up your path?

>>17199644
looks terrifying, great job

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>see this xr80 on cycle trader for $600

>talked guy down to $500

first bike, how fucked am i?

>>17199624
maybe you should stop asking the same stupid question in every thread

>>17199659
You won't go faster than 50mph and it's not street legal

>>17199644
Do the ripples on the lens fuck up the beam pattern at all? How is the light output with just 1 projector?
I've been considering doing the same thing on my dual sport.

Also what projector did you use? There's a Nilight kit on Amazon for like $30 that has really good reviews.

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>>17199630

I feel like an idiot. I took the shitty stock Honda grip guards off today as I am ordering barkbusters and the one is barely hanging on since the first drop. I also wanted to see if I could bend the brake lever a tad (I know it wasn't a good idea) the fucking bolt that holds the lever in is a joke. It snapped while coming out.

So now I need to find a Honda OEM bolt and a new brake lever. I'd love to get foldable brake and clutch lever but I can't find any stateside to save my life. They are all in euroland. I'm wondering if foldable levers are not DOT approved or something.

Fuck me and trying to get Honda OEM parts outside of buying some questionable shit off of eBay.

>>17199667
>50mph
kek maybe 35

>>17199659
ur already ded

Also is that a big fuckign cloud of smoke coming out the back?

>>17199676
post pic of the master cylinder. There's a good chance the brake lever is interchangable with a fuckton of other bikes

>>17199663
maybe people should start answering my questions so I won't have to

>>17199579
Whatever is on sale at walmart

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>>17199676
order off rockymountain oem section or see if they have aftermarket and youll have them by tues or wed if you order this weekend

>>17199684
I'll head into the garage in a few. I am sure it is. Thing looks pretty standard.

Anyone running barkbusters? Looking at the pictures it looks like the mounting point has nothing to do with the brake and clutch like the stock guards were affixed to a plastic bracket. It's really a stupid fucking design and I am disappointed with Honda on that one. All show, no substance.

I need to get a bolt for the clutch side as well as it is the same shitty bolt as the brake side and it has an exposed portion top and bottom to fit the Honda plastic bracket which I won't have anymore with the barkbusters.

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>>17199648
Thanks. Better than a '66 mustang, but that's not saying much, is it? Went for a night ride and certainly much better visual clarity than with the standard halogens (sorry no comparison photo of before/after). High beam is controlled with a solenoid in the projector, works well and gives instant lighting.

>>17199674
Not really in practice, I could notice some reflections on the garage wall as I test-fitted the glass lens of the housing, but nothing serious that would disrupt the cutoff.

I just bought a 60€ kit off ebay, some chinese manufactured kit, but has better ballast than what I've seen come from china.

They make smaller versions of these with no halos, which might be a better fit for nakeds.

>>17199614
Worked and made a few bucks. Life is ok

>>17199695
Doesn't seem they have levers or the bolts. I looked under AT as well as universal.

>>17199708
Ah, the Nilight kit I was looking at was just for a pair of projectors with no bulbs or ballasts.

So what did it take to actually get in there? I guess you just somehow pull off the lens, clamp the projector on the normal bulb socket, then glue the lens back on?

>>17199724
which bolt, the one it pivots on? #23 in the diagram
and you may as well get some chinesium levers for now if you cant get anything else

>>17199579
motul full synthetic a best

>>17199678
nope, it def goes faster than 35. max is 50
>>17199680
yes. the guy said the valves need to be replaced eventually and it smokes at high rpms

>>17199785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3Ol0Zzz60
my bad 43mph

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>>17199676
What the fuck kind of Nazi state do you live in that you are making sure you have DOT brake levers, what the actual fuck man.

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>>17199748
Actually
>disassemble housing as much as possible
>separate adhesive from glass lens and sheet metal housing with a hot-air gun and cardboard box
>cut out the sheet metal housing to fit the diameter of the rear of the projector housing
>clean and paint old faded sheet metal reflector housing semi-matte black
>drill 20mm hole into rear of the plastic housing for the projector rear mounting bolt and wires
>run wiring ready, mount ballast under the tank onto the frame with VHB
>mount CCFL inverter into spare horn mounting plate under the headlight (that's gonna break when the first rain falls...)
>run ccfl+solenoid wires of the projector through the parking lamp hole in the metal housing
>drill hole for aforementioned wires into bottom of plastic housing
>rearrange wiring to make space for rear of projector
>install projector, test out everything and level the beam cutoff
>bolt everything down
>apply black car body sealant as adhesive for the glass of the housing
>with soapy fingers, form the sealant and apply glass housing, making sure contact areas are clean
>press metal sides closer to glass edge
>form and remove excess sealant with soapy finger
>apply tape to make sure glass won't move
>pray everything still works and that it looks as good in sunlight
>notice it's 3:20am and you haven't eaten in 14 hours

I'll never forget my msf course.
>do everything perfectly until emergency stop
>dropped bike because I turned the wheel all the way by accident after stopping
At least I wasn't that girl that dropped the bike 8 times and crashed into 3 people.
>I was one of the people she crashed into

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>>17199805
Nothing about state or inspection (we don't have that) it's just that ruggedroad, touratech and a few others have their AT foldable levers for sale in Europe but not in USA.

>>17199780
>Has no idea of dudes situation
>Probably went on speed run and got a ticket, can't afford insurance anymore
>$3500 LOL

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>>17199814

Shitty ass bolt/pivot pin. I've never seen something so pathetic. Rather disappointing.

I am used to hydraulic brakes and clutches, brembo and magura.

>>17199814
Order some knock off Pazzo levers, I paid $30 CAD for a pair.

>>17199810
take a pic with the actual HID running instead of just the halos

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>>17199833
It will over-expose always, but here. There's a pic up there with how it looks from behind the handlebars.

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>>17199833
Cutoff here

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>>17199826

They don't have the AT. I'd have to figure out what model corresponds to the AT as I am sure it's something Honda picked off the shelf. I can't imagine they created it just for this bike.

All I want to do is fucking ride.

Strap my school pack on, grab and sandwich from mom, put my cyclegear store brand jacket on and go ride. So I can take selfies for dbt.

>>17199408
Mine was a class of 4 people, including myself
All active or prior military.
Chill as fuck.
No one failed.
Used it as an excuse to sham out of work.

Instructor was cool too.

>>17199408
Mine had 12 people, most of which were commercial drivers that wanted to add M1 to their license to get around retesting. But there was one kid who showed up with his own helmet, and brand new matching jacket and everything. Kid had never touched a bike in his life and one of the instructors wound up asking him to leave on the second day because he was so bad he was obstructing everyone else's practice of the exercises.

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I'm making webbums

How does dbt listen to music while riding? Everytime I try the wind rips the earbud out of my ear. Do I need a jacket with a collar or hwat?

>>17199969
dbt is full of autists that wear ear plugs while riding.

>>17199969
Breh best bet is a full face with a sena. I got mine for $100. I talk on the phone and nobody can even tell I'm on my motorcycle. And music sounds awesome on it

>>17199980
I wear earplugs and listen to music through my Sena at the same time.
git gud

I know nothing about engines but I like to speculate so hear me out. My bike has less compression in one cylinder (not sure by how much but it's fairly significant). There's also a "sound" that's not supposed to be there, that's what the mechanic told me personally I can't identify it. Could the low compression be caused by a broken piston ring and the sound caused by the piece rattling inside the engine?

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>>17199408
>bicycle to class on my 80s steel tube Miata
>last one there, other 5 students looking at me as i click in on my bike cleats & holding my helmet
>they'd just finished all introducing themselves & explaining why they want to take the course

>myself, white guy, 20s, point at my bicycle gear and say i want to take the course so i can go places faster
>white girl semi truck driver, 20s aggravated by 68mph truck governer (wanted GSXR600 to blow off steam)
>asian basic bitch, 20s, said her extended family was essentially an asian motorcycle gang but they wouldn't teach her because she was a girl (also wanted "a Gixxer, bro")
>middle aged asian guy who tracked cars and was getting legal after riding for years
>white guy, HS sophomore who wanted to ride to school or something
>mexican girl, 20s, asked for and received a CBR500 from her boyfriend for valentine's (first she wanted a sporty manual car, but he pointed out she already had a car)

the asian girl was the only one who'd never driven stick; she dropped the clutch while standing and almost launched the bike into a fence. think it scared her pretty bad, she didn't come back the second day.

the sophomore guy dropped his bike a couple of times in the figure 8, only time anyone went down. Nailed it eventually.

I tied with the asian man for highest score overall, feels good.

trucker girl did well, also she braided everyone's long hair to keep it out of the way, pic related (need to learn that asap)

mexican girl was my partner for pair stuff and gave me rides between the classroom and the range and for lunch etc, so i talked to her most. she was pretty baller, immigrated at like 16 by herself, had some cool stories. She was tiny though and not very confident, usually went too slow. Juuuust failed, prob because of that. They said they'd let her retake, no cost. She was crying... trucker girl and i gave her hugs. All exchanged numbers to meet up and ride when we got bikes.

no bike yet; no meetup yet.

>>17199969
bluetooth speaker system on/in my helmet. Yes I can still hear the speakers even though I wear ear plugs.

>>17199990
>>17199991
What Sena do you guys use?

>>17199991
Baird, can I borrow your bike for a week or two at the end of the year if my 70 weeks of training gets pushed back to January?

-nuda anon

on a scale of 1-10 how bad is it to get this as a first bike?

i just took my MSF last week
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/6098849696.html

>>17200025
I have the smh5, haven't had any problems with it. I've charged the battery once and have used it every day for the last 4 weeks

>>17200034
>https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/6098849696.html
It's right in the ad m8
>his is an EXCELLENT first bike for a new rider. Light, tame and tons of fun

>>17200034
Won't be sufficient power for a rider like yourself, I suggest a turbo, run it on Ethanol and get some cruiser tyres.

All in all, it wouldn't actually be too bad of a learners bike, but if I were you, I'd look for something newer, second hand, and smaller.

Good amount of power for a learner is between 30-60hp

>>17200034
10 being bad and 1 being good? I'd say a 1.

>>17199607
Speed, yeah. How about brakes? The only thing that comes close to breaking as well as a car is a sportbike with ABS. I think the GSXR600 is the current best, and then if you want to get close avoid anything under 650cc.

Does your tiny rotor shitbike of choice even have ABS?

>>17199841
that looks pretty gnarly dude, grats on a sexy mod

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>>17200030
Borrow it for two weeks? I don't think so. You can ride it if you're here though.

>>17200025
BAKA-10 and 20S. 20S is much better, but both have the same speakers now.

>baird can't jump anon better watch this

>>17200025
SMH10. Tons of problems. Overpriced. Bulky. Would not recommend.
>frequently gets staticy or loses connection when using intercom with another SMH10. Range is also very short
>battery wouldn't hold a charge after like 1.5 years. Uses some really weird battery so I had to order another one from china.
>music/phone/intercom controls frequently don't work right

>>17200034
medium

>>17200078
Any ride is enough desu, tyvm

>>17199408
>Do you remember what YOUR MSF course was like?
No, as I had proper lessons with mostly just me, sometimes with a girl.
Like 40 of them. Started in the summer with 30°C, ended getting my licence in the snow. Days before the A1-A2-A bullshit started.

>>17199579
Any 10W40 that's cheap, don't care if it's for cars or not.
Use the Mahle oil filter recommended in the workshop manual.

>>17200089
I used my BAKA-10 for two years and never had any of those issues with it. It's pretty sturdy too, I dropped my helmet on the Sena and crashed in the woods many times, the dial wasn't even round anymore but still worked fine.

>>17200078
come to real SAM and let me ride your 701. I'll let you ride my godmachine.

>>17200104
I've ridden plenty of DRZs Anon.

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>>17200110
>drz
>godmachine

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>>17199408
was fun, I got a TU250X, should have tried for one of the Groms.

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>>17199999
>quints
that mud looks like hell

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>>17200110
But were any of them green with right side up forks?

I'm going to try to get a VMax, Magna, or Oldwing before SAM anyway.

>>17200134
No, I'm jealous.
Definitely go for VMax, only get a Magna if it's a V65. Oldwing sucks.

>>17200117
yee
idk wtf to do with my hair most of the time desu
hairspray and a blowdrier should probably top the list

>>17200138
I would say a trimmer will solve a lot.
Although girl braiding your hair is fun too.

>>17200138
cut it

Is learning to ride a motorcycle a form of self-improvement. Like learning piano or working out?

>>17200161
yes, it also helps refine fine motor control and sense of balance

>>17200136
Yeah the V65 is the one I was looking at originally but I've decided to expand my search a little.

>>17200161
I guess you could call it that. It's just fun.

>>17200161
If you get into racing/competing sure. If not it's just a hobby or a skill you work at. Just like anything you get out what you put into it. But it's mostly a weekend hobby for most people

>>17199551
Well you could if you waited a few months, actually.

>>17200067
There are Harleys that will outstop a superbike from 60mph because they keep more weight on the rear, the fuck are you talking about. You can get the CB500F with ABS but the one he's looking at doesn't have it, which is probably one of the reasons nobody else has bought it. 2016 was also a model refresh.

>>17200161
Can you not ride unless you believe it to be improving yourself? Hop on one, find out for yourself. Don't listen to us schlubs

>>17200161
For me it's meditation. It clears my mind and shows the beautiful part of the world.

>>17200193
Dats da gayest shit I ever heard

>>17200203
Gayer than 4 guys blowing 5 guys

>>17200186
>There are Harleys that will outstop a superbike

Vids/reference?

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>>17199960
What color is that? Concrete Primer?

>>17199579
Is it bad if I didn't change the oil since I got the bike three years ago?

>>17199579
>not using rotella t6 in every motorcycle you own

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>>17200241
>An engine oil known for incredible amounts of detergent
>Put it in a wet-clutch system

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>>17200239
>your bike

>>17200254
I did notice that it's kinda hard to shift when it's cold outside.

>>17200244
>still certified for wet clutch use

I'll let you know how little fucks I give after I get my oil analysis back.

>>17200241
>putting nasty $10/litre oil in your bike

>>17199750
>>17199695

http://www.hondapartshouse.com

Looks like you can get every genuine oem part from these guys. The oem lever is actually cheaper than chinesium levers on ebay. $25 bucks for a lever. I'm getting double of everything as backup until I can't get my hand on good foldable ones.

Tried getting a set of puig. I can't find anyone who sells the AT adapter.

>>17200256
go google a copy of your bike's maintenance manual
it has the schedule for everything you need to do
pic related, schedule for an sv650s

>>17200212
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2011/07/article/2011-harley-davidson-street-glide-comparison/
>129ft
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2015/07/article/2015-superbike-smackdown-x-on-the-street/
>GSX-R1000
>132ft

Unless you have drum brakes or a full blown 3rd world shitbike braking power is never an issue. Big sport bike brakes are good because they dissipate heat better and don't go off when doing repeated heavy braking (eg. on the track), they're more responsive, and require less effort so it's easier to brake hard and make other inputs simultaneously.

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>>17200288
whoops

Thoughts on 500 EXC as first dual sport? Want to pick up dirt riding and don't have a trailer to get to good offroad stuff. Will be my third bike, but first offroad anything.

>>17200302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExVoRFmqUDA

Not a 500exc but this is how much fun you can have

>>17200262
>overpaying for my oil makes it better
good goy


>>17199695
mfw I live near a rmatvmc warehouse and always get my orders the next day even with the standard shipping option

>>17200302
Good for more travel/adv style riding, not great for actually learning techniques. It won't kill you but it would be difficult to control in the technical shit. Might be better if you're a big guy.

>>17200302
350EXC will be much easier to manage in trails. Having excessive power can be pretty fun but also wear you out a lot quicker off-road. Chances are you'll be surprised how quick even the 350 is.

Also those bikes are bred from race bikes and are relatively maintenance intensive and made almost completely for off-road use. If you want a more chill bike that will not be as expensive to maintain you might want to consider a DR or XR.

Started riding my R6 more lately and I've noticed the shifting feels kinda 'crunchy'.

When shifting up it actually shifts much smoother when I leave some preload on the clutch and dont pull it in more than a half inch or so.

Pulling it in all the way results in crunchy, non-smooth shifting.

Been sitting for a while and has about 2000 miles since last oil change, hopefully the oil change will smooth it out.

>>17200309
are you implying that shit is better than motul fully synthetic oil?

>>17200244
detergent isnt a friction modifier.

>>17200330
I'm saying spending 5x as much on oil won't result in 5x better results.

Oil is oil. Just get whatever is on sale at walmart.

>>17199467
I can't hear you over my aftermarket exhaust.

>>17200340
but you are saying you will not pay extra for better results right?
i bet you run low octane fuel in your bike to save money too.

>>17200344
Seriously.These are motorcycles not 1970's Ferrari's. Just put the appropriate weight 4 stroke oil in the bike at the appropriate intervals and the motor will outlast the rest of the motorcycle.

oilcucks are the worst when they try to justify their wasted money.

>>17200322
Makes me feel guilty for only replacing tires when I see straps or canvas. I though it was thicker than that.

>>17200330
Why do you think your meme oil is better than mine? Rotella T6 is JASO MA certified. It's a synthetic oil, it has the same anti dispersant properties as your oil, only your shit costs more.

I'll show you my oil analysis of 6k miles worth of Rotella and there will probably be nothing wrong with my bike.

>>17200353
I run the required octane and oil grades. I do not waste money exceeding the specified rating because the benefits are marginal at best (for oil) and nonexistent for gas.

>>17200353
Why put high octane into engine that doesn't have high compression rate?

>>17200325
Also look into the WR250R for something more modern.

>>17200353
Putting higher octane fuel into a bike that doesn't need it is a waste of money
Putting super expensive oil into a bike for no reason is also a waste of money.

If you're putting higher octane fuel than necessary into your bike you are pretty much admitting the bike has shit tuning and knock protection. In which case stop buying shit bikes.

Likewise if you are putting super expensive oils into your bike beyond what the manufacturer recommends you are admitting you dont trust the quality of design and manufacture of your make of bike. In which cast stop buying shit bikes.

>>17200365
mfw 12:1 compression and revs to 14000 but still only requires 87 octane

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>>17200370
>implying he can handle the god bike

>>17200379
You fz6 as well?

>>17200382
shut the fuck up faggot.

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>>17200094
>use recommended oil filter
>use car oil

>went on my first official dirtbike ride yesterday

Only been on a motorbike twice in my life before ground was soft as shit but I didn't come off. Didn't make it out of first gear but still, felt good, man.

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>running lowish on fuel, not even blinking yet though
>go to pull away from light
>engine stops
>won't start
>luckily no one was behind me at the time
>get off bike to push it off the street
>left it in gear, have to get back on while a confused ass dude comes up on me in a car
>get it pushed off to the corner of the sidewalk, eventually starts, then runs normally
>ride 50' into to the gas station conveniently located on the corner
>can hear fuel sloshing around in the tank when I open it up
>fill up bike and ride off as if nothing happened

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>>17200387
>Triggered

>>17200397
no one cares faggot fuck off

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>>17200382
cubber

>>17200382
Can you send me some of your moms worn panties?

>>17200397

Cool babies first 600. Let me know when you stop being a pussy.

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>>17200404
>tfw I miss my f4i

>>17200398
Considering the anon posted the specs of my bike, I assume he has one as well.

>>17200404
Nice bike

>>17200410
I'd have gotten an fz1 but insurance would have been rape

>>17200425
>I wanted a babbies first liter peter but I'm a poorfag.

You're not helping your case here shit kit.

>any year
>not having kkk filtered

do you even /dbt/

>>17200414
>tfw not enough ground clearance
not my style tbqh senpai. I keep banging up the exhaust on the corners of curbs and logs and shit. CBR lift kit when?

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>>17200431
Find me a better 600cc sport tourer for less than 3 grand.

>>17200442
see:
>>17200414

>>17200432
>not having laminated pictures of his mom

>>17200446
Not nearly as comfy and not a sport tourer.

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>>17200442
I thought of you the other day when my brother sent me this ridiculous snap

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>>17200442
this with bar risers

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>>17200455
>Not nearly as comfy
Says you.

>sport tourer.
Just as much as your hacked up underpowered R6.

People sport tour the shit out of these bikes.

Find me a 300,000 mile FZ6.

>>17200461
>brother is a sand nigger
>baird is a sand nigger

Who knew.

>>17200461
Your brother seems like he could possibly be a bigger faggot than yourself.

>>17200455
>FZ6
>sport tourer

>>17200461
>shit beer
>shit fashion
>oral fixation
>beady soulless eyes
>complete lack of hygiene

Fucking disgusting.

>>17199408

I never took it.

Probably would have been a good idea, but I bought my first street legal motorcycle, a 200cc dual sport, when I was 17. Thought I was invincible, and had been riding dirt bikes since I was 12. Got my license by taking the test, wrecked once a year later and got out without any major injuries, wised up and started trying to really learn how to ride on the street.

20,000 or so miles later I'm moving into faster / larger bikes 600-1100cc , haven't been down again (excluding off road)

>>17200461
is he also a manlet

>>17200468
What? We're Italian and Irish.
>>17200470
He is, CBR600RR is his favorite bike.
>>17200479
Don't forget
>Tacky gold horn necklace
>Shitty haircut

>>17200484
Pretty sure we're the same height. He has floofy hair though so he thinks he sometimes looks taller.

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>>17200461
My kind of shirt. Also weird seeing you with hair.
>>17200465
I've sat on a few at the dealership. It's a more crouched position and my legs where more cramped.

I mean I get it, you are really here just to contradict me but I love my bike. It's been great for the last 1500 miles since I got it.

>>17200474
>The Yamaha FZ6, also known as the FZ6 FAZER is a 600 cc (37 cu in) motorcycle that was introduced by Yamaha in 2004 as a middleweight naked bike built around the 2003 YZF-R6 engine. The engine is retuned for more usable midrange power. As a multi-purpose motorcycle it can handle sport riding, touring, and commuting.

>>17200487
other than not being a liter, what's wrong with the 600RR?

>>17200480
I never took it.

First bike I rode was my brothers Hawk GT when he was out of the country and needed it moved else it get towed.

Rode it about 20 miles on the freeway to my buddies house. Only took me about 20 seconds to get acclimated and figure it out.

Didn't ride for about a year then boguht my first bike cash. See:
>>17200414
Rode it home and topped it out on the freeway on way there.

Never had any spills or dropped a bike in 11 years of riding 600-1000cc sportbikes and sport tourers.

>>17200487
>He is, CBR600RR is his favorite bike
Could you call him a faggot and ask him to KYS please.

Thanks.

If not a 500EXC, a Husky TE 410 or 250R? EXCs are super expensive used around me, I've discovered, but there's plenty of Huskies. Also a lot of low cc XR and WR models. How would I go with those? Would they be suitable for short 50mph stints to get to the good trails?

>>17200497
The GS500F was also marketed as a sports tourer.

>>17200503
>Rode it home and topped it out on the freeway on way there.
Lel I did that when I bought my fz6. I figured, no plates yet so they can't do much too me.

>>17200510
That's fine. An fjr1300 is a sport tourer as well.

>>17200497
>I've sat on a few at the dealership. It's a more crouched position and my legs where more cramped.

clip on's and rearsets are some of the cheapest and easiest ways to modify your bikes ergonomics.

You really chose an inferior bike because you didn't want to spend $100 on clip on risers?

>no 300,000 mile FZ6 posted.
Confirmed for shit touring bike.

>>17200499
Supersports are a normie meme
Only thing more bro-y is a gixxer

>>17200514
DL1000 is a sports tourer too.

>>17200509
If it's easy in your state to register anything get any four stroke from 250 to 400cc.
If not get a WR250 or a DRZ400.

>>17200521
Dl is an adv bike and adv bikes are gay.

>>17200515
Your point being? I'm not going to sell my bike all of a sudden and buy an F4i, the deal I got was good and my bike has performed flawless and I genuinely enjoy it.

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.

>>17200530
Oh, anything geared well for the street is gunna suck offroad and vice versa, until you get to the big 650+ bikes that are too heavy to learn fancy shit on imo

>>17200531
DL1000 is a sports tourer with higher ground clearance and longer suspension travel.

>>17200531
>I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.
That you are a faggot. But you went ahead and proved that for me.

Now fuck off shitbike rider.

>>17200535
>Oh, anything geared well for the street is gunna suck offroad and vice versa
Except the WR250R

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/five-speed-vs-six-speed-some-surprises.281742/

>>17200542
>bike that can't get out of its own way
>geared well for anything ever
I rode an X offroad today. Was not impressed. Blipping the throttle to get over something isn't a thing. Comfy though and easy to corner.

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>>17200531
>Dl is an adv bike and adv bikes are gay.
mfw kitkat says something not retarded

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>>17200539
>That you are a faggot
I don't ride a Honda anymore though :^)

>>17200538
This is objectively wrong

>>17200535
sell me the DRZ

.

>>17200549
nigger you cant even get out of your own way on a kx250, not the bikes fault you can't into 4stroke

>Blipping the throttle to get over something isn't a thing.
every time you rode past me you were like redlining it already, ofc blipping it wont do anything

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You know I always thought the thing about the NC47/PC44 having low pegs was bullshit until I saw a review saying it was to give it more leg room even though it still has a low seat.

On one hand that makes me kind of glad I didn't get one, on the other hand I would probably be dragging pegs and feeling like a badass if I had.

>>17200561
At least I can jump :^)
>>17200559
Ok $3000 for the parts in a box.

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>>17200564
Get a Harley if you want to drag pegs or floorboard to feel validated, I scraped the floor boards on this after my first turn today.

>>17200572
>At least I can jump :^)
this webm determined that that was a lie:
>>17200078

>>17200577
Except I would be fully aware the dragging hard parts on a Harley doesn't mean shit.

>>17200549
>Blipping the throttle to get over something isn't a thing.
>expecting 250lb 40+hp dirt bike performance out of a 300lb 29hp dual sport

Maybe its because they look like dirt bikes so people expect them to ride like dirtbikes offroad.

A DRZ400, DR650, XR650L, KLR650, etc. will not pull the front end up by just blipping the throttle either.

>>17200586
Pretty much. Was max comfy though

>>17200561
>you were like redlining it already
because the thing has no tork, of course he had to redline it to get anywhere

>>17200572
no, pls build it and have it rdy 4 me :^)

>>17199626
>my gf got mad
don't worry, fluttershy is supposed to be conciliable

>>17200598
Doesn't have to lift the front off the ground under its own power, just needs to kick a little when you're trying to leave a jump or get over a log, or try to swing the back end around a little. My DRZ was notably better for that, not great, but it least it had a little torque.
>>17200604
This pretty much.

>>17200556
>This is objectively wrong
So are the cast wheels of the DL as they are designed for onroad.

>>17200598
my wr250r with a 47t rear sprocket will lift the front with throttle blip

>>17200604
lol wrong

>>17200621
Just because you feel like it's a sport tourer doesn't make it so. When even the manufacturer describes it as an adv bike, it's an adv bike.

>>17200620
m8 idk what you are doing but i have no trouble spinning up the rear on it

probably because you are used to 2t 250

>>17200622
>my wr250r with a 47t rear sprocket will lift the front with throttle blip
What size wheels?

>just needs to kick a little when you're trying to leave a jump or get over a log, or try to swing the back end around a little. My DRZ was notably better for that
The powerbands of those two bikes is vastly different. All the WRR's kick is up top. You probably weren't riding it right.

>>17200632
If it has 17" cast wheels. It's factually not an adventure bike.

>>17200390
It's known they run fine on them. No wet clutch and shit.

>>17200632
It is objectivly a sports tourer and has marketing directed towards commuter booomers who want it to look like it can handle groomed dirt roads.

>>17200633
Probably. Either way your clutch lever sucks cock and my suspension may as well not exist.

>>17200637
Nigger was complaining that I was too close to redline

>>17200637
wr250r wheels? 18/21

>>17200643
>thinking adventure bikes are supposed to be good offroad
topkek they're for cruising on the highway to the starbucks across town

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What's y'alls opinion on this cute lil fella?

>>17200632

The ADV market is branding only.

You can't compare that monster of a sport tourer to a ktm 990, GS800a, crf1000l Africa Twin or Tiger800xc.

>>17200654
Adv bike/10

>>17200648
you pretty much have to go WOT but it will spin up and blip over stuff

>Nigger was complaining that I was too close to redline
nigger you were OVER redline, legit sounded like you were going to blow it up

>>17200632
You market yourself as a heterosexual but we all know the truth.

>>17200654
fun bike

looks better than FZ07 but doesn't sound as nice

>>17200660
I only actually hit the limiter twice thank you.
I used to hit it 10 times a day on my DRZ and that's... Oh.

>>17200674
lol i literally never hit the limiter on it

Bunch of no talent hacks

I'm looking at you KKK

>>17200669
I think the color is great with that trellis frame.
Might go fondle a few when I get a chance

>>17200648
>Nigger was complaining that I was too close to redline

Bike doesnt make more power at redline. Redline is like 11,500 but peak power is at around 9000rpm. It just has shit loads of overrev where it is making near peak power.

>>17200660
>nigger you were OVER redline, legit sounded like you were going to blow it up
Bike has fuel cut at redline. You're not going to blow it up bumping into the redline from time to time.

>>17200393
Does it have a fuel petcock?

What is maintenance like on the DRZs and WRs compared to the KTM machines?

Also is there a significant difference in operating hours?

>>17200696
I know how bikes work Anon. I wasn't going to get any more torque shifting into 3rd.

>>17200690
I concede to that. I'll never claim to be the best rider.

Arriving about whether or not an adv bike is an adv bike is an exercise in futility.

>>17200703
Depends on the the machine. 690? Not much worse. 525? Lool

>>17200707
>I wasn't going to get any more torque shifting into 3rd.
But you were, though

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>>17200707
>I know how bikes work Anon
debateable

250cc inline4 again when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC38axv1DcQ

>>17200717
Never

:(

>>17200699
No, EFI. For now I'm going to assume it was bad gas, I've had some other weird intermittent shit since the last fill and it wouldn't be the first time from that station.

>>17200711
>>17200712
K, maybe I would have gotten 2 more. Still wouldn't make the bike feel fast. I'll bring my 701 out next time, that's fast and easy to ride.

>>17200717
never because nobody would buy them

>>17200723
How many bikes do you have at the moment that work?

>>17200703
Oil changes:
>WR250R
3000 miles
>DRZ400
3500 miles
>any EXC
like 10 hours

Valve Checks:
>WR250R
26,000 miles
>DRZ400
16,000 miles
>any EXC
like 30 hours.

>>17200723
im not saying leave it in 3rd, but it's a 4t 250, you're gonna have to shift more than on a 2t 250

i would constantly be going between 2nd and 3rd on that track, clearing those jumps in 3rd, tight corners and up hills in 2nd

>>17200723
>I'll bring my 701 out next time, that's fast and easy to ride.
you forgot pigfat.

>>17200725
I would. Just for that 20k redline scream.

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>>17200728
Just the 701 and the KX. DRZ 3ngine is now disassembled, diving into my first valve job.
>OEM tappets are $45/ea
>>17200732
But 70whp and 50tq so idgasftbhwyrnfamngltho

>>17200743
When did you sell the wing?

>>17200744
Ages ago

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>>17200741
R6 already has a 16,000rpm redline scream.

Not much to be gained from reving higher with a smaller motor and as an added benefit an R6 isn't slow as shit.

>>17200709
>Arriving about whether or not an adv bike is an adv bike is an exercise in futility.
One with cast wheels is easy to say its not.

>>17200717
guy at 2:37

>the fuck is that shit

>>17200751
The r1200gs can come with cast wheels and it's an adv bike.

BTFO

>>17200743
>But 70whp and 50tq
Offroad the majority of that power is useless. Plus the bike is pigfat so overall its pretty shit for anything other than wide open high speed riding.

>>17200750
Still not 20k. Plus its fun having people give you nasty looks as they think you are hooning, yet only doing 60km/h while making yourself be more obnoxious than a harleyfag.

>>17200757
So thats the commuter sports tourer edition.

>>17200757
An r1200gs with 17" cast wheels is not an adventure bike.

>>17200767
>I don't like this thing so I'm going to reclassify it

>>17200709
>Arriving about whether or not an adv bike is an adv bike is an exercise in futility.

An adv bike is a high, relative light, tourer with some off road capabilities. It's a pretty easy to put them in a category

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>>17200750
>mfw 10,000rpm is in its midrange

>>17200771
>im hust gping to blindly believe marketing

Is this why the world is blessed with those stupid american infomercials adverts.

>>17200760
It weighs like 30lbs more than the WR tops since I removed the fucking 25lb exhaust.

>>17200741
You say that, but for what it would actually cost, you wouldn't.

>>17200771
No. It classifies itself by being what it is. Cast road wheels make it a road bike. Not a on-off road adventure bike that would have a 19-21" front and spoke wheels.

>>17200777
>somehow believing that a 520 lb pigfat monstrosity is a "sports" anything
Are you sure YOU'RE not the american here?

>>17200785
Fact: Most sport tourers are 500+lbs.

>>17200780
If it didn't need to meet new emission standards it would be reasonably priced as they already have the engineering done.

>>17200782
The DL1000 has a spoked wheel version you twats

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>lay bike down whilst hooning, get injured and can barely walk for a month
>make up story about guy tailgating me and trying to run me into ditch, didnt stop
>ATGATT, helped another guy get into riding defensively and with gear, known as the "motorcycle guy" at work
>everybody feels bad for me, gives me sympathy, goes out of their way to be nice to me
>girls at work bring me homemade lunch and give me rides home, fugging incoming
>boss used to ride, get to do easy stuff like print things/write emails until I get better
>mfw was really doing clutchups on backstreets at 3am

>>17200792
No there isn't. You twat.

>>17200794
You're gunna go far kid.

>>17200790
what, you think they just already have the designs for one laying around somewhere?

it would cost double the price of the average 250/300 currently on the market if you wanted it fit with the type of quality suspension, brakes, chassis, etc. you find on a 600 or 100

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>>17200797
>No there isn't. You twat.
that's weird because this is a 2017 DL1000XT, which has spoked wheels from the factory

>>17200799
Yeah Honda still has them. They dont have the tooling tho.

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Morning ride

>>17200806
>implying they are just going to start making a 20 year old bike again and people will actually buy it

It's not a harley

>>17200803
>DL1000XT
Oh you mean the real adv edition.

>>17200810
If it wasnt for emissions they still would.

>>17200771
BMW specifically makes the adventure version with spoked wheels, larger fuel capacity and more suspension for a more globe trotter adventure bike.

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>>17200785
This is regularly called a sports tourer, comes in at 320kg. It still goes like hell with that 1.6L i6.

>>17200798
I never understood that expression, is it disapproving, approving, incredulous, or amazed? What emotion are you trying to convey?

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>>17200812
>get told
>b-but no that doesn't count!
mfw

>>17200816
>600lbs
>adv bike

El em ayy oh

>>17200821
Its not a DL1000 its a DL1000XT
one is adv one isnt.

Idiot

>>17200820
I actually meant it semi seriously.

>>17200824
I wouldn't use one. Not when there are 800s and 1000s that are just as capable and 100lbs lighter.

Some people feel the need and they have gone across the world carrying everything and the kitchen sink.

What some people want and spend their money on is of no concern to me, if they are happy I am happy for them.

>>17200824
It's lighter than my GS, which is definitely an adv bike.
It's not a light offroader, it's not the heaviest tourer, it's in between. Comfy, can handle a lot of carriage, but you don't need roads.

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>>17200829
thanks man, I am a beloved and upstanding member of the company who was unjustly attacked by a truck, and is grievously injured

and that's all they will ever know
>tfw gonnna be tongue deep in qt butthole before the month is over

DAILY reminder to wear gear and hoon responsibly

>>17200819
>This is regularly called a sports tourer
no it's not, it's regularly called a touring bike

>>17200827
>backpedaling this hard
>Suzuki regards the V-Strom 1000 as a “Sport Adventure Tourer”

that awkward moment when you realize you've been wrong the whole time but still try to argue when it's clear that you're wrong and just dumb as hell

>>17200803
I fail to see how an Adv version of the DL1000 makes all DL1000's "adventure bikes"

What I said remains true. If it has 17" cast wheels it is not an adventure bike.

>>17200833
>seeing bringing the kitchen sink as a luxury

I used to bring the dishwasher with me, but she started nagging.

>>17200838
Since when is it a requirement of adv bikes to have spoked wheels?

>since never, you just made that up, and are sperging when anyone disagrees with your imaginary definition because you're autistic

99% of ADV bikes never go off road anyway

>>17200837
>that awkward moment when you realize you've been wrong the whole time but still try to argue when it's clear that you're wrong and just dumb as hell
Projecting much?
Have you seen the market of them? You are legit retarded.

>>17200837
>no it's not, it's regularly called a touring bike
The GTL is the tourer, the GT the sporttourer.

>>17200837
>that awkward moment when you realize you've been wrong the whole time
Nobodies been wrong. Just because Suzuki finally made a spoke wheel version of the DL1000 doesnt make all the cast wheel DL1000's adventure bikes.

Starting this year there is an "adventure" trim for the DL1000. The fact that this trim suddenly came out doesnt make all DL1000's ever made adventure bikes now. retard.

>>17200846
Then it's not an ADV bike. Cast small wheels are not meant for off-road.

>>17200846
>Since when is it a requirement of adv bikes to have spoked wheels?
Since they are supposed to be offroad capable bikes and cast wheels are shit for off road and likely to crack/bend with any significant hits.

And 17" is a road wheel size. 17" wheels are piss poor for offroad riding and have a poor off road tire selection.

>>17200837
Show the backpedalling where?
You brought the XT version into it. Which actually is an adv bike. The DL1000 itself is not.

All I see is USA levels of education in here.

Fuck you faggots, I'm getting breakfast and then putting the adventure in adventure on my adv bike.

>>17200858
All of this is correct, except sometimes 19s are okay offroad, front or rear.

>>17200867
>19s
I didn't say anything about 19's.

I want fresh pics of Justin's mom.

>>17200865
Amrifag here. Usually it is just the result of non INTJs. I like to sit back and watch like when you see two dump people scrap and fight over meaningless ideas or tangible items

Adv = bike LARPing

>>17200866
But Anon it's 11pm

>>17200877
>people scrap and fight over meaningless ideas or tangible items
It's never dumb, especially when it brings entertainment.

Motorcycles, more than anything, have too many dumb labels that all overlap with each other and are broad to the point of being meaningless.

>>17200903
That's true of just about everything

>>17200903
Fucken Jews did it.

>>17200908
See
>>17200909