/ORG/ - Overland and off-Road General

Is a GMT800 Tahoe/Yukon a good vehicle?

>>17133987
Absolutely. What are you going to use it for, though?

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FUCK

>>17133987
>>17134058
Nice try tho

>>17133987
They've very good. But make sure you know what you're using them for.
IE they're horrid for innacity daily commuting unless you shuttle 5+ people every day and carpool

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Now there's 2 threads for us to post in?

Been busy with the new position at work. Haven't been able to do much to Murph lately. I took it out tailgating 2 weeks ago. It was ipening night at the raceway

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Can I get redpilled on off roading? What are the do and don't, best tips for beginners, and general advice? I have a 2000 4runner with all seasons and I've been wanting to off road for awhile now. I live close to upstate NY and PA so the options are plenty.

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>>17134769
Here's something quick and basic as I'm tired atm. I'm sure others will chime in!

Do:
Have fun
Bring proper recovery gear in case
Practice good trail etiquette
Know the limitations of your vehicle

Don't:
Tresspass/Go where we're not allowed
Do anything to give this hobby a bad rep
Go alone without proper gear
Get carried away, especially if using a DD

>>17134109
>pooparoo forester
kys

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>>17135409
You underestimate my power

Should I go dual battery or single group 31 battery plus solar? Plan to run a whynter fridge and need to charge phones, cameras. Also are cambodian tire batteries any good or should I sell my soul for yellow top optimas?.

Alberta fag if that helps.

>>17136018
dual bat is going to be more powerful. seems like you have a lot of shit you need to power. if its one or the other id go dual bat. if you can swing both, id hardwire the fridge directly to the solar panel and have it be directly powered by that and nothing else. then use your second battery for all your other shit.

i dont know shit about cambodian batties, yellow top are p sweet though but there are dozens of other options that are great and cheaper.

>>17136141
Cambodian Tyre is our joke name for "Canadian Tire" that is our bulk gas, automotive, outdoor, and firearms store located every 10 blocks in Canada.

They're alright. You can use them for road tyres or second batteries without issue

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I'm looking up lighting options again for my LX450 and am more than happy with the two driving / fog / spot lights I have on Taynger being 75W KCs.
They're great for fog if I aim the spots down whilst driving on country roads and they're amazings for offroad illumination if I angel them upwards.

It'd be nice to have a similar setup on the Land Cruiser but since I have a roof basket, I'll have more viable options for lighting. This includes getting dedicated fog lights, one police spot, and two driving lights. Along with front and rear bitch lights (almost needed with how tall this fucking thing is).

Any recommendations besides:
55W inboard fog lights
100W KCs apollos on the roof
110W PIAA driving lights
A high intensity police spot on driver's side
a backup bitch light
maybe rear fog lights

Though, if I angel the lighting, I can use the PIAAs to signal passenger aeroplanes. I just don't want to seem overly excessive with the amount of shit I have on this vehicle. So I may just shove an LED light bar in the grille as the "dry lighting" system. Like the thing I recommended the anon in the last thread https://www.amazon.ca/Nilight-Lights-Driving-Lighting-Warranty/dp/B00WE47FVM/

>>17136233
>bulk gas, automotive, outdoor, and firearms store
that place sounds amazing
why would you ever need to go anywhere else

>>17136607
Like every be-all store (except costco), their gas, automotive, and firearm selections are all more expensive and shit.
>gas always costs 10-20% more than competitors
But they're the only people who service interstate (interprovince?) gas stations
>mossy nuggets for $250
>SKSs for $350
But at least they carry firearms unlike any other big box store. Good for ammo but i had a few misfires on their American Eagle .223 for some raisin
>gerber knives that cost $50
>buck knives that cost $150
At least their tents are always on sale.
>automotive always tries to sell you more shit
>service all brands mean they service no speciality anything
But they are the first place you go when you get lighting, oil, or fluids.

I wonder if they have offroad lighting...

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>>17136557
I caught myself typing the word "tyre" today. god damn it /o/

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>>17136674
do you not talk about tyres on a regular basis? :^)

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>>17136726
BOI

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>>17136557
I also need to step it up in terms of lighting... I also want to throw some stuff up on the roof as the old mounts for the lightbar are still up there but wiring is definitely going to be PITA

Love the police spotlight idea. I had one of those on an old work truck and god was it useful!

>>17136018
Duel battery for sure. Keep your regular starting and shop for an appropriate AH rated deep cycle battery.
>>17136141
>id hardwire the fridge directly to the solar panel and have it be directly powered by that and nothing else.
And don't do this. You'll run into constant voltage drop out problems. If you're going to run a solar panel, get a DC/DC battery management system that'll distribute the solar charge as required, usually making sure the starting battery is optimum and then maintaining the deep cycle battery.
And hard wire the fridge and all your other camping accesories to the deep cycle.

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>>17136557
>>17137004
Can't beat a pair of Lightforce 240s as driving lights. The beauty of the 240 Blitz is they're adjustable between pencil and spread. With reflector housings, bigger=better before you even look at globe.

>>17138160
Is that your lexie?

Also, those lights are enormous! I might not be able to beat them but I wouldn't want those on the front of my vehicle... Just preference - nothing against them.

>>17138442
Nup, just the most relevant google image I could find. Each to their own I suppose, but IRL they look the goods IMO, along with a fair few other 9" lights (Narva 225 as an honourable mention).

This time around I'm aiming for a quadrant of Lightforce 170 Strikers on the bullbar. They'll just fit between the uprights.

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Anybody have any ideas for some offroading inspired print/livery for a vinyl wrap on a 95 wrangler? We've got a guy working for the family business that does graphic design for us (specializes in wrapping cars) and we're planning on having a spare jeep my uncle had laying around wrapped as a promotional type of deal. Our guy can draw up and print anything we want and is planning on doing some kind of digital camo with the company logo incorporated somehow but I'm just curious what else could be done.

Looks very similar to pic related with a little lift and different wheels/bigger tires

>>17138619
Make it look muddy.

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>>17138654
Well yea but I was thinking maybe something that doesn't just show up when you drive it, yaknow?

I'd like this without the fake diamondplate

>>17134819
What do you consider proper recover gear?

I have a 11,000lb electric winch
Hilift jack
Traxx
Shovel
Ropes and snatches

Does anyone still have that Rockauto coupon code?

>>17138691
I meant mane a wrap that makes it look muddy, like with the company logo "under" the mud. It might be gay, but normies eat that kind of shit up.

>>17138809
Yeah.
6144915555105931

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>>17138730
Tire repair kit, 12v compressor, quick deflator, tool kit, extra fluids for everthang, spare bolts/nuts, CB hardwired, CB hand held, etc.

>>17138730
+1 for the portable air compressor.
Air comp, tire gauge/deflater and elastic snatch strap/shackles. There's your basic recovery kit, and for the most part that's all I grab these days for a casual drive.

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>>17138909

I really need to make up a decent skid pan for my Forester.

Something like pic related would be nice, or even a full bumper replacement, albeit i'm not sure I can legally do that here in Aus without getting it engineered due to airbag sensors etc

>>17139446
It's always interesting to see the shitposting that works it's way into these threads when literally no one wants it here (by no one, I mean no one that actually matters.) If you want to talk about Subarus, make a thread for that. This thread is about offroading, which you can't do.

>>17139446
Airbag sensors shouldn't be a thing? Have you tried hitting your vehicle on a tree?
The sensor should sense rapid deceleration and not a brunt force impact.

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>>17139623
Well, not him, but kindly go fuck yourself.

With right mods forester is pretty capable offroad.

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>>17134769
thats quite the open ended and broad question my man. im going to ignore your first sentence since its really hard to answer, i think you'll have more specific questions as time goes on. but to address the second part of your post, what is your budget, what do you plan to do, and what is the terrain like near you? 3rd gen 4runners are great little rigs. you can get away with a lot if you just upgrade your tires and throw on a set of all terrains (with a full sized spare.) if youd like to go a little more crazy, upgrade your suspension with a basic bolt on kit too and maybe add some armor. outside of that though, most of us on here like to (((overland))) so if i were you id be looking at a sleeping situation/storage/food solutions etc so you can camp out of your rig. but if thats not a priority for you then who cares.

>>17134819
solid post. recovery gear/first aid kit are probably the most important stuff to have on you at all times.

>>17138909
>cb
>mfw
jk im actually getting a cb soon mainly bc im too lazy for the ham test. 2m is better in every way though.

>>17139755

From what little I understand basically adding a bull bar or something similar will drastically change the rate at which the car crumples, in turn changing how fast the car decelerates and depending on how the sensors for the airbag are calibrated they can trigger to soon/too late and either completely fuck you up or fail to protect you at all.

>>17139623

Go and cry somewhere else faggot.

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>>17139838
Cbs are the tits, I always keep a hand held on me for hiking since I can get all the weather information while increasing my chances of being able to contact 4wheelers in the area if I get into some trouble

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>>17139623
OLOLOLOLOL

>>17139623
It's always interesting to see the shitposting that works it's way into these threads when literally no one wants it here (by no one, I mean no one that actually matters.) If you want to talk about Subarus, at least do your research on how they can be capable. This thread is about offroading, which they can definitely do.

>>17139837
>poser parking lot picture
No, it isn't. Keep fantasising, but you know it's a lie.
>>17140046
>poser parking lot picture
Boy you sure are starting to convince me.
>>17140059
Show me some then.

>>17140077
>making an effort to convince some salty faggot on mongolian horse pictures website

>>17140109
You're right, I should really stop trying to convince you that you're retarded. Enjoy your shit mobile and changing axles every oil change.

>>17140077

>Being this salty

>>17140134

Can you show me on the parts fiche where did the Subaru owner touched you anon?

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>>17140077

You fucking WISH your car could do this.

>>17140194
Is that a shopping cart as a roof basket? If so, I'm very glad someone finally took my advice.

>>17140194
I wish my XJ could get on a parking block but not go over it because I'm scared?
>>17140164
It started in the axles I had to touch every day, and it led to him touching my threads.

>>17140194
Let's see that rug munch mobile go on over.

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Why has nobody posted crowvideocaps

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>>17139446
Well you're in luck my man
http://imoutodreams.us/

>>17140046
>>17139837
>fucking your already weak suspension's geometry and shitty ride quality with homemade lift kits that fail to make your Subaru as capable as a stock Suburban

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>>17140354
>Implying I want/need a stock suburban
>implying I'm not just doing light off roading
>Implying your opinion matters at all

>>17139837
>With right mods forester can look like it's capable offroad.
ftfy.

>>17138892
idunno mane we could do so much more with it than a flat color or wet dirt. The guy can literally print anything he wants. I feel like having that kind of ability and blowing it on some mud stickers is a bit of a waste. We could have it tie-dyed on every surface or have every panel covered in printed sheets of continuous dildos. Literally any image he can put together in photoshop in the dimensions of a jeep. The goal is to showcase the huge amount of options potential customers could go with in a cool and presentable design that attracts positive attention.

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>>17140534
>implying you need a Subaru

You buy what fits what you want to use it for.
If you want a shit ride with a weak suspension system pushed past it's limits with completely fucked geometry and very little off road capability, then you buy a Subaru.

It's not hard to trace the logic back to the source. You're not interested in off road. You're interested in looking like you're interested in off road, but at the same time making sure you don't come off as what you perceive the typical "off road" person as. You want to show everyone that sees your car that you're an interesting outdoors person, but at the same time different from everyone else in the crowd you are attempting to associate with. Everyone here is giving you a hard time because you're trying to be a special snowflake.
If you stopped trying to be a special snowflake, people would stop giving you a hard time. If you like your Subaru, that's fine. If you like to abuse it off road, that's fine. But stop pretending that it's good at it. Stop pretending that you bought it out of some "need" for a specific range of capability that you determined your vehicle needed to fall into because you could NOT use a vehicle that was more capable even if it were cheaper.

>>17140354
Pretty much this. For what they are, the Foresters that came with a centre difflock and low range option are reasonably capable, but trying to push it outside its design parameters by means of bottoming out suspension geometry and half shaft angles all in the pursuit of making it appear more offroad friendly is a lost cause. Coupled with the other problem of not having a structurally sound rated recovery point necessitating contraptions like this >>17139446 cobbled together.

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>>17140717
>Blah blah blah stop liking what I don't like
I'm here to stay wether you like it or not, so you'd best get used to it you double nigger.

>>17140910
>Blah blah blah stop liking what I don't like
If you'd read the post it was actually the opposite of that.

>>17140534
Saying you bought a Subaru because you didn't need a Suburban is like saying you became a faggot because you didn't need kids.

Stop making excuses and just admit you like to take it up the ass.

>>17140717
What do you drive, 9fagger?

>>17140956
Is that so?
>You are not interested in off road
I am interested in off road, which is why I ask a lot of questions. Generally without pictures I might add.
>You are interested in looking off road
Which is why the only off road looking thing on my vehicle you can see is my axe/shovel mount
>You want to look different from everyone else
There is no way to argue this that can be proved, take my word that it looks like the average subie in my area.
>Snowflake and everything else after
If he read anything I've posted since I got here he would see that I've never claim it was good at anything other than running on logging roads and LIGHT off roading, which is the message I've kept to since I discovered this general. I discovered off road after buying it and have never been interested in taking it beyond what I've stated in these threads.

Which translates the whole tangent into stop liking what I don't like.

>>17141030
If it's not bleedingly obvious you're talking to blue XJfag, then that explains the other short sighted thinking that led you down the Subaru path.

How off-road capable is a pretty much stock 96 tacoma?

>>17141050
Not even him but you should seriously fuck off. All you are is a lightning rod for making these threads worse. Maybe check back in after summer.

>>17141050
>completely ignoring the part that tells you keep liking what you like
You completely missed the point of the post, so you made one up to argue with. One more reason you're a detriment to these threads.

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>>17141050
When it just finished two days of hard storming, you can try out your vehicle in the same logging roads. The trails get around 2x harder and the puddles make a different path. It's like a completely different type of driving which is nice.

Just be careful of ditches that could appear 2-4x deeper than you think they actually are. Plus you get that little satisfaction of going from 30-0 by going full speed into a puddle splashing muddy water all over the place

>>17141060
o hai!
whatcha drinking tonight?

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>>17141062
lmao we had two people ask this question last thread.
>post engine
>post drivetrain
>post tyres
>post location and condition of trails/roads
>do you have lockers?

also:
>inb4 shut the fuck up
>inb4 i'll never work anywhere besides mcdonald's ass. manager

>>17140269
what did he mean by this?

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>>17141262
I don't work at McDonald's. No idea what that means.
But here's the taco in question

>>17141237
Sounds like neat challenge to try out. It stormed pretty bad here not that long ago and I went out to try out a logging road for those reasons alone. Unfortunately the trails really didn't change that much. If I'm lucky we'll get a spring rain/wind storm so I'll get another chance before the sun comes up and dries everything up

>>17141262
How dare you ask for clarification. You know how I know you'll never make manager? Management material doesn't ask for clarification. Management material makes wild guesses and enforces them by firing anyone that speaks up. You're not important and you will never amount to anything, not even shift manager you worthless minimum wage earning ranger driving excuse of a lifeform. Stop pretending you're important.

>>17141237
I'm not blueXJfag, but if I was drinking it'd be a 12YO Glenfiddich... Or what ever beer was in the fridge.

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>>17141304
>minimum wage earning ranger driving excuse of a lifeform
jesus christ anon
what did i ever do to you......?

>>17141237
He was correct that I originally told the subaloser to fuck off, but I trailed off after realising it was just a child larping. I was drinking cheap beer as always though, then I went to sleep, now I'm up to poop because I ate some bad food last night and it's still killing my guts.

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Bought a 2002 Chevy S10 a couple weeks ago
>4.3 V6
>4l60E auto
>2WD open diff
>No body rust, small amount on frame under bed in South Ontario
>81,000 Kilometers
>6 previous owners
>haven't looked up the VIN yet in fear
Planning on doing a 2in spindle/shackle lift with different shocks and putting 29in KO2's on it soon. I know I want soft 8's but I'm not sure how wide I should go and what offset I should get yet. Going to be ripping the front valance off and putting together a diamond plate skid plate for it this weekend if I don't get called into work. Plan for the truck is to put smaller steel bumpers and sliders on, and eventually lights and a winch. Truck is a daily and would really only be going down logging roads and some light trails to go camp or haul a 3 Wheeler to, otherwise I would have bought a 4x4.

>>17141237
Is that Raglan? If it is I got a flat a couple days ago about 40 feet forward from that picture coming the other way and watched a stock Subaru Legacy Wagon drive into the pits.

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>>17141297
Be careful of bogpits that end up softening the already soft dirt and making the ruts much deeper. A good idea is to strafe the ruts but you gotta also watch out for shit like this.
You have a low centre of gravity so you don't have to worry about tipping over like Tayconderoga does... But you might have to worry about hydrolocking if it's too low or just general mud bogging you down.

>>17141291
what kind of paths do you run / where are you located? do you have the 3.5 V6 and if so, is it 4wd selectable?
What are those tyres? standard michelins?

>>17141318
o. get a bottle of aberfeldy when you get the chance. it's a good entry single malt and the same price, too.

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>>17141359
You do know there's at least 2 subielosers in here right?

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>>17141385
Never rode any paths. I'm green as fuck when it comes to anything off-road. Only ever went with friends and nothing extensive.
live in Virginia, and it is 4wd fo sho.
Not overly sure what tires are on it.

Haven't had much time with it since i got it due to work.
Wanting to take it down to Carolina to do some beach riding this weekend. Hopefully some trails up in the mountains sometime this summer work permitting

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>>17141373
It's on Boundary. I go up there as it's part of my biweekly commute before getting to farm territory. I like taking that road especially if it's an afternoon, and don't want to deal with 401 'shwa traffic.
I've even made a delivery half way Durham East cross Forest just a few weeks ago. Drop me a line if you're on of4. Are you on the /o/terrible discord? I'm heading back up to do legit overlanding next Tuesday near that Buddhist temple in Ungava

>29 inch KO2s
wanna buy my 33 inch KO2s? only 30 000km!
lemme know how the skid plate work ends up going and also if you're going to do a leveller and what the winch / bumper will be.

>>17141397
Fucking kill yourself phoneposter.

>>17141444
:^)

>>17141397
I consider them one shit entity of losers, lumped in with people that argue suburban vs land cruiser for no reason other than praying they'll will something. Guts are settled once again momentarily, so I'm going to sleep a little more before work in a couple hours.

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>>17141419
4wd and you're better than the other two 2wd tacos in this thread. they have lockers, though, so it's excusable. Kinda like any Subaru in this thread. as long as they know their limits :^)

Anyway, you should be pretty capable. keep it in 2wd for as long as possible when running trails. you shouldn't NEED to take 4wd if you're diong fire paths or gravel roads. But if you decide to get a bit frisky, keep it in 2wd so you know where you can (and especially) cannot go.
Then when you're finally off the trails and are stuck in 2wd, engage 4wd-l and start it really slowly in 2nd gear. don't spin your tyres wildly. instead, rock back and forth until you have enough momentum to go in / out of your hole

if you can't get enough momentum, bring your tyre PSI down to 10-15, shoves some wood under the tyres, and then do the same trick again and again.

keeping it in 2wd and only using 4wd-l will teach you where you can bring your machine. and it will serve as your only recovery tool.

I personally learned on an i-5 colorado and at least 3 phone calls to friends asking them to pull me out.

>>17141444
wtf do you use innawoods?
this is overland general, afterall... and i'm not setting up a 110v setup in my camper just to run 4chan on a desktop

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>>17141438
Not on of4 yet. My friend and I probaby run Boundary 2-4 times a week since we just live in Oshawa and don't have any better place to be. And I promise officer we don't have small bush parties while trespassing in the pits firing off air guns and there definitely isn't any underage drinking and smoking either. :>)

I would have to start cutting fenders on my truck to fit those. My bud with the FJ62 might be interested, but I think he's more looking for 35in mud tires and dailying on his 30in KO2's.

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>>17141492
Good shit. Thanks man.
Why start in 2nd gear over first?

>>17141492
>wtf do you use innawoods?

Nothing because I go /out/ to be /out/ and get away from all the bullshit, uploads can wait until after the trip.

>>17141496
Lemme know. I have 33s on my FJ80 right now and 32s on my Ferd Ranger. It's gonna thunderstorm this weekend so if you want, we can go in the pouring rain which is whole different experience.

Some guy in Oshawa also has a Porsche 944 and I've been meaning to get him out on boundary road to teach him how to drive off road. Hop on the discord and shoot me a direct message, senpai. https://discord.gg/SenfAyU

I'd love to see an old S-10 again. I miss my Colorado sometimes, desu.

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>>17141512
You'll feel it if you're in 4wd-l. If you're in 2wd or even 4wd-h, you'll just feel a stutter if you try to engage in 2nd gear.
But for the same reason you don't want to slam on the throttle when you're stuck in a bogpit, you will need to do 2nd gear to maximise your torque and grip strength. 1st gear is like an initiator gear: high speed and leads to less grip (torque at the tyre). 2nd gear is less acceleration frisky.

>>17141513
le sigh
i wish i could not be tied to my phone.

>>17141549
Sweet. I'll be a trail riding cunt in no time!
Back roads have been a bit flooded out here the past few days. So I might go hoon around in those areas a bit.
Had my bike out there today so I think the truck should make it lol

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>>17141521
Pic was from the first big rainfall of spring. Never seen more people there than that day. Don't think my friend wants to go back till he gets his truck more sorted out, and I probably shouldn't beat on my truck so much in its current state. I did manage to make it from Coates rd to the very end of Boundary and then back again last Monday. I'm told the rear end was hopping off the ground when I was going over ruts.

Sometimes I wonder if I should have bought a Double cab Colorado beater. Can't cram as many people in this truck as my old Impala and, and the problem with this truck is after looking at Kijiji this might be one of the cleanest S10's left, and might be worth a lot ,more than the $4000 I paid for it.

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>>17141572
as a last resort (so you don't come on here frantically asking us "what do" if / when you're stuck), bring tyre PSI down to 10 and run back and forth crawling

and if that doesn't work, take a floor mat, put it under your lift point, take a garage jack, jack up the tyre that's stuck, and shove wooden logs, pillars, etc under it. i always carry some 2x4s in the bed of my truccs when offroading. damn those things are helpful.

take pictures!

>>17141589
>no airsoft guns, occifer
>aus iffer
Sweet. I like the recovery point on the rear bumper and the rear light, too.

If you want, crawl along at 20PSI and you can feel the difference. I'm always game on teaching people new techniques when innapaths. You can run 10-15 PSI on Boundary road to 57. Then run Wild turkey up to 7th. From 7th, it's just 2 klicks to Bethany where you can air your tyres back up to 30-35PSI.

Anyway, give me a shout. If I'm not hobbling around in a farmer's shed near boundary, I'm using it as a detour to go to another farmer's shed 2-5 hours East of boundary road. so i'm there every 2 weeks or so (and definitely more in the summer).

I like to race Dirt bikes in Taynger going fucking 60kmph down the dirt road with 10% visibility with the dust that they kick up.

>>17141652
I doubt I'll get stuck on the Back roads. If my bike made it I'm sure the truck will do fine.
I am pretty stoked about my beach run this weekend. A guy I work with lives down that way so we'll most likely spend the entire weekend riding on beaches, drinking, and playing with guns.

Life is ok

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>>17141652
Because I only just bought this truck I'm only just now able to explore these roads since my friend couldn't afford the gas for his 62 and my Impala was an Impala. Now we both have money and trucks and its spring so we're just now able to explore.

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>>17138730
Impressive list for a newbie!
I'm assuming you're >>17134769?

>>>17138730
>Tire repair kit
>12v compressor
>quick deflator
You can get away without these if you have a proper spare... unless you're in soft terrain where airing down is necessary.

> Tool kit
>extra fluids for everthang
>Spare bolts/nuts
ABSOLUTELY THIS!!!

>CB hardwired, CB hand held, etc.
Not a must but god damn does it make things easier.

Someone mentioned it before but you'd be silly going out without a basic first aid kit.

>>17139446
>>17140297
Details on this? I have a buddy with a Fozzie who wants something like this.

>>17140034
Are you licensed for Ham? I'd also recommend a handheld ham too! If you can reach a repeater when in trouble your call for help can go much much further

>>17140307
Y no Tay reference?

>Subie vs. the shitpost battle royale
Welcome Subie brethren! Ignore MrCummy.

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>>17141693
>couldn't spend money on maintenance for his 62
>let alone gas to even run it
>buys one anyway
This man is a good man.

Beater trucks are nice, I'll admit. But solid choice on a fully functioning S-10. They still look great and hold their value. Put it up on kijiji for $7000 and see if you get any biters.

>now can only explore
wanna hit the trails up in bobcaygeon? ;)

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>>17141727
you know, i'm surprised people actually keep track of my file names. you're right. I'm slacking here...

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>>17141729
>FJ62
>maintenance

>8MPG no matter how or where you drive it
He got the truck from his dad and he spent a bunch of money restoring it. There's missing body lines from bondo on that truck if you look hard enough.

>>17141727
I don't have any experience with it myself but I'll go ahead and post their desc for shiggles.
https://www.gorillaoffroadcompany.com/collections/forester/products/offroad-bar-subaru-forester?variant=32063689996
I actually just realized that I didn't actually copy the link last time I posted that pic and pasted the wrong link entirely.
Woops

>>17141727
I'm not HAM licensed but do own a hand held. Just never found time to take the class or find a club

>>17141784
>two pickups
Hmm..
Is his dad a 6 ft 4 white dude with gray hair, camo pants, and goes to the mech. near 401 / DVP?

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>>17141784
Just noticed the 75 series beds adapted to the J45.

>>17140717
>>17140717
kekd
btfo

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>>17141784
>all those cruisers
living my dream

>>17139838
Just get a baofeng Uv-5r my man, cheap ass handheld radio that can access ham and uhf frequencies no sweat.

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>All these Subarus
What's going on in here, fellas?

Finally got my old XJ up and running again. It was my first time working on a vehicle on my own and I did the rear main seal, oil pan gasket, oil sending unit, and heater valve, but it's not leaking anymore! Well, for now.

Any /Overland/ XJs on here? Time to start building mine.

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I bought an Xterra about 5 months ago as a family vehicle that would be great in the snow that we get up here.

We LIVE in the place that you people love to travel to, I live miles back into the woods of northern AZ and am surrounded by trails and FS roads.

on our second day of having the xterra we took it hill climbing and mudding, and ever since then I have been taking it out about 4 times or more a week. its cool to explore the wild that I live in.

>>17142781
>What's going on here
One person posts a Forester, other people post their foresters, /org/ goes full Aspergers

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>>17142946
i'm assuming you live near flagstaff
northern arabzona is beautiful country
as long as you're away from flagstaff

>>17143054
Well I don't have any opposition to foresters. Actually, when I was deciding on a vehicle, it was between an '04 Forester or an XJ. I'm just wondering where all the other nom-Subaru /out/mobiles are.

Subarus are neat and all, but where is everyone else? Don't complain unless you're posting, m8s.

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>>17143085
What's wrong with flagstaff?

I might be moving there next year so if there's anything I should know plez explain

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>>17143342
nothing really wrong with it
it's just your typical college town
idiot liberal children
the weather is top notch
four actual seasons

>>17134769
ugly ass bitch

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Dumping a few pics from scooting around some of the back roads.
Most of the flooding as receded. But still kinda shitty in some areas

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>>17144168
Dump complete.

When I decide fully what the balls I'm doing this summer, one of my options I was thinking of was keeping my car for dd and getting a cheap 4wd tracker for like 600-1k for some fun in a different way than I've experienced. Is there anything to look at in particular with them? I have zero experience with owning an off road vehicle before, I want to get one as close to stock as I can and then do as I see fit. I helped a friend lift his Isuzu (don't ask...) and I have installed everything on my car, so I'm decent wrench just don't know much about off roading.

>>17144132
where you located

>>17144323
Virginia

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Any recommendations for a decent HAM radio to install? Top budget radios if you please, I don't need the top of the line

>>17144684
Baofeng uv-5r
Or if you want a mounted one, a uv-5r with a holder :^)

>>17144860
Hue

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>>17143799
Whelp I'm going there for college, and it can't be any more liberal that a San Diego Community College so it can't be that bad

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>>17145175
that's for sure
if you can handle the cold
you're going to love it
>inb4 canadians

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>>17145316

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>>17145332
damnit

this for you guys

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Do wranglers really break down that much or was that just older models or what

>>17145502
How do they handle at highway speeds?

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>>17145502
Chrysler engine and removal of AMC caused issues for the JKs up until around 2014. But these issues were almost always computer related, alongside, of course, the general fiat-chrysler mechanical issues.

Older Jeeps have a lot of breakdown pics simply because there are just so many of the things out there. You have a higher likelihood of seeing Jeeps breakdown compared to samurais simply because there are somewhere 100x + more TJ/YJs than there are samurais.

If you build them correctly, then they'll handle correctly. If you take them to a shit mechanic, you'll get them that break any time on the road let alone offroad

>>17145515
Alright. Lots of windnoise. Drive with earplugs and try to avoid bumps. Drive around the speedlimit especially when windy.
You can always get an Eff- Tree Shitty Pooper Duty and tow it on a trailer to your destination.

>>17145468
>molson canadian
>labatt blue
bls no

I am neither a tasteless normie nor a hipster. But I did skip a curling team for two years.

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>>17145502
>>17145515
i had an 05 LJ that was in the shop at least every three months
there's a reasoning behind the "it's a jeep" slogan
BUT they are fun as hell
except the jk the jk is shit
way too big
i miss my jeep

>>17142781
im trying to build my xj into a bit of n overlander while saving up for college lol
so far ive got stock size a/t's
planning on heavy duty stock leaf springs and front coil spacers this summer and later on 4.5" lift and 33's

>>17145532
So buy a 2015 or newer?

>>17145534
1. what was wrong that you couldn't fix yourself?
2. how the hell did that happen
3. why didn't you just get a good old tj for the price of the lj?

>>17145549
They have apparently "fixed" lemoning issues. Or maybe they just haven't had time to break down yet.

It all depends on what you need. Why do you want a 2015+ Jeep that's going to cost you more than $25k?

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>>17145556
Because the older ones will cost more via repairs anyway

>>17145586
Depends where you live. Here, you can get one functioning TJ $2k and buy a pre-buyilt TJ on 33s with bumpers for $7k. Then use the functioning TJ as a donor car for the pre-built TJ like skids, interior items, roof exchanges, etc.
Plus you can have fun fucking around with the two vehicles and maybe sell the 2.5 that comes with the donor Jeep.

>>17145625
I will on occasions have to drive 5 hours on the freeway on it so I want a JK

>>17145647
If you want cheaper maintenance and without random people waving at you on the highway, get a:
xterra
4runner
tacoma/frontier/ranger
fj cruiser
jeep xj/zj/wj

>>17145536
What year do ya have? And what preventstove maintenance have you done so far? Before spacers and lifts, I would suggest focus on getting it in tip top shape. Leaf springs are definitely a good idea to upgrade early on though. What kind of condition is it in?

>>17145661
I still get the "Jeep wave" in an XJ. So no guarantee there, b/o/us.

>>17145798
>Preventstove
Preventative

>b/o/us
b/o/ys

Damn swipe-to-text...

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>>17145550
technically i could've fixed most but the company paid for all repairs so effit
One
>opda
>coil pack
this took a shit at the gas station right before a 100mile trip into the middle of nowhere fuck that would have sucked so many asses
>warped rotors x6
>thermostat x3
>starter
>fuel pump (i think 10years ago)
>death wobble
the death wobble was fucking horrid

Two
dude had some type of a "medical episode" and passed out
took out four 20'+ trees, an iron fence, hopped three curbs, crossed three lanes of traffic, and landed square on my fucking jeep
i was the only car in the fucking parking lot

Three
i tried but all i could find were ines that were rusted to shit (this was in slc utah)
modded to fucking insanity, and they all had super high miles

on the plus side they gave me 22k for a jeep that payed 24k for 6years prior
gotta love the jeep/toyota tax

>>17145647
>i want a jk
you really don't man
if your looking for a vehicle to drive five hours in a jk is not what you want
look for vehicles with ifs as they're smoother on pavement

>>17145943
I'll only be driving 5 hours maybe once a month on average

>>17145661
those are not even _close_ to acceptable alternatives

only the land rover defender would be acceptable but it's not street legal and even less reliable

>>17146072
have you ever driven a jk before

>>17146101
yes, and a TJ

My regular commute is 10 minutes

I just need it if i go out of town to not be a huge pain in the ass like the TJ is

>>17146105
>I just need it if i go out of town to not be a huge pain in the ass like the TJ is

please explain mang

>>17146156
TJ's ride is too bumpy at highway speeds
JK's ride is acceptable

no it's not perfect but it's good enough

>>17146178
okay
good luck to you man

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>Don't:
>Tresspass/Go where we're not allowed
>Do anything to give this hobby a bad rep

reminder that if it's legal, it's not true offroading.

>>17146194
thanks, only decisions left are which year to look at (apparently >= 2014 is ideal based on this thread) and rubicon or non-rubicon...

i don't want to end up being unable to upgrade if i want to do more hardcore offroading.

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>previous owner sold car to dealership with LED lightbar installed on bullbar
>dealership being the jews they are, removed lightbar to sell for upkeep of car while in lot before I bought it
>buy a new LED lightbar and tried installing it today
>Wiring is still there, all I needed to do was connect red wire routed through grill to light and black wire from light to ground on bullbar
>wire it up and reconnect neg terminal
>lightbar is instantly on despite ignition off, aux light switch is off and lights aren't activated

Could they have possibly pinched the relay switch too? Tried looking for it before installing but it is/was installed somewhere under the dash and didn't have time to take it all apart today to find it so my dumb ass just assumed it should all still be there since the aux light switch in the cabin has a little light on it and is still getting power.

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>driving down the highway
>an unexpected swift find comes out of no where
>hold on for dear life while getting shoved into the next lane
god damn every time

>>17147005
swift wind* not swift find goddammit

>>17147005
>tfw 3 inch lift with mud tyres
>already drives like a boat
>wants to go its own way hitting slight bumps or dips on the road

Not looking forward to the next real windy day we have.

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>>17147005
>>17147017
what the fuck did you just say to me

>>17145931
there's a lot to unpack there. but damn. I guess it was fate, then. were you happy or sad when you saw the thing crumbled?

Also, those issues sounds like standard bad luck maintenance issues on 10+ year old vehicles.

>muh yoda tax
so why get the fj cruiser?

>>17146080
Taynger (2010, 4.0 V6, SOHC, offroad trim Ranger) allows for 10+ hours of highway driving and moderate offroading when I get there.

>>17145798
2000
nothing but oil changes so far, had it for 7 months/5k miles
mechanically its alright but pretty rusty. unibody look ok but the rockers are pretty much hopes and dreams
the rear main seal leaks as does the trans pan... and the tcase tail seal.
also needs a new steering stabilizer

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>>17147071
i was super bummed
i was 4 months away from paying it off
then I was going to mod the shot out of it

the lj was purchased new and was maintained on a regular schedule meticulously

honestly I got fjc because it had ifs
the death wobble was a fucking nightmare
however if it hadn't have gotten totaled i would've just kept it and try the other thousand "remedies" for the death wobble
i don't mind paying the "jeep/toyota tax" because all it is is value which gets passed on when/if i sell it

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>>17146195
Don't want to go political but there are a large number of LOUD, ORGANIZED groups seeking to outlaw our hobby. I've personally seen environmental groups shut down areas to folks like us because MUH ENVIRONMENT!!!

Look at MightyBenz in Norway where all off roading is outlawed except for a couple of organized, regulated events. You can damn well believe that's what these people want here. Do you really want to give them more ammo to use against us?

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>>17146956
Its possible, but I'd just check all the wiring to the relay and make sure its properly done.

Battery to fuse holder to pin 30
Ground to 85
Pin 30 to LED-bar power cable
Pin 86 must be connected to whatever you want to control the light with.

My bet is that there is something wrong with the pins being connected wrong, or that they haven't properly connected the switch so that there is always going power through it

Remove the connection to pin 86 and see what happens. If it then stops working I suggest trying another similar relay, connecting it the same way and see if it happens again. If it does then you've got some monkey-level wiring going on. If it now works properly then its fixed

>>17150671
You'd be surprised at how few of the offroading guys here want it to be "legalized" and so on. We're generally very fond of our nature here, and for the most part people want to work towards setting up certain trails one can use all year around, certain areas that can be designed offroad sites and so on. We do not want to able to drive anywhere we want as thats just retarded

Offroading Britfags, what's a good entry level offroader on a limited budget. I've been thinking about getting into offroading for a while now but only have about 3k gbp to spend. Are older Rav 4s capable?

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>>17150892
>Offroading Britfags

>>17150892
Anything with a locking centre diff combined with a dual range transfer. So not a Rav4. Suzuki Vitara maybe, or Daihatsu Feroza.

>>17150809
Is there no end to the faggotry of the Nords?

>>17145534
TOYOTA FUCK YEAH

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Hey liquid. I just saw the fj62 out on boundary.
Had to rush out for a late meeting but same guy you were mentioned.

/autism

Am headed back and I actually have time to fuck around now. Naice

>>17152803
>Hey liquid. I just saw the fj62 out on boundary.
>Had to rush out for a late meeting but same guy you were mentioned.
what in the fuck are you talking about faggot

>>17152971
He's obviously drunk. But it's the weekend, so give him a fucking break. Though I would like to know that that actually meant.

>>17150809
>>17150809
I'm in the exact same boat! I love the outdoors, the last thing I would want to do is wreck it. There can be a middle ground between preserving nature and responsible off road use!

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>>17152579
it's a sequoia mang

>>17153401
A Nissan Sequoia?

>>17152971
>>17153328
Sry. I haven't had a day off in 3 weeks and am swamped with work right now (fucking literally since i went through bogpits on my way to the farm this afternoon). I guess that's the equivalent of drunk.

Did manage to pick this up today for $380 from the rural guy's friend. This is going right on the Land Cruiser.
https://www.amazon.com/Keeper-KW13122-1-Heavy-Wireless-Control/dp/B005YT49V8

Anyway, I was racing through Boundary road near my house which is a road on the GPS but has turned into a light mudding trail. I can normally run 3rd gear in 2WD the whole way through the trail and race dirtbikes through it. So it's fun to unexpectedly hit a bump and get tossed around at 50kmph.
Saw the FJ62 in this picture >>17141784 in the trail and stopped off to confirm it was the guy. Just posting it here since I didn't have time to stop and chat.

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>>17153410
no. TayForce.

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>>17153410
you okay dood

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>>17146195
>>Don't:
>>Tresspass/Go where we're not allowed
>>Do anything to give this hobby a bad rep
>my dad used to go off roading in red rock canyon all the fucking time in his land cruiser
>was made a conservation area in 1990
>I will never ever experience literal golden age off roading
Fuck everything

>>17142781
I wish I had some pics of mine.

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>>17150809
>read this
>fuck yeah gonna check out my wiring and shit when I get home
>oh wait still gotta install all new sparkplugs quickly then suss out the wiring
>removing plastic covers, multiple wiring housings, hoses, clamps and all the other shit to find the 6 spark plugs buried 6 inches deep inside the tappet cover
>only 3 caps came undone easily, other 3 had to use pliers to pry the caps off
>tfw fell for the nippon manlet babbyhands meme again

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>>17154534
Think it's been a while since the previous owner replaced the spark plugs too.

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>>17152803
>>17153585
Yeah I saw you. I was in the back, wasn't entirely sober though.

I ran Boundary Rd from Cochrane Rd all the way to Darlington Manvers Townline and back last monday in my still stock 2WD S10. A bunch of the paint on the front valance chipped off and the rear end was hopping off the ground when driving through some ruts though. But my friend and I are building a tubular rear bumper, ripping the valance off, and building a front skid plate out of diamond plate tomorrow.

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/o/ newfag here. I like this place

>>17154806
It's mostly 2 faggots circlejerking eachother, don't expect much.

>>17154817

Are you referring to the battlewagon subadouche faggots by chance?

>>17146956

>inb4 chink relay welded itself closed and you just need a $0.30 auto relay

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>>17154823
>Suburbadouche
You're not referring to me are you?

Nice Tahoe BTW, what have you done to it?

>>17154787
Ah pallet fires. I miss s n o w r o l l i n g already.

Best defense against that would either be a lift kit or driving carefully, heh. Front skid and tube would be a good idea, though. Just keep the valance for resale value unless you plan on running it into the ground.

4wd would help from hopping rear or maybe lockers. But that conversion / buy would cost at least another $1500-$2500 and just not be worth it. You could weigh it down. I have an old, dark red Dodge Dakota Bed Cap that I can just give you. that might help. it has no keys and has a destroyed right side window but some plexiglass can keep it functional.

>>17154534
>>17154560
I'm waiting for a sunny day to replace muh ferd ranger's spark plugs. easiest way is removing the front wheel to get to it, weirdly. Ah whale.

We also ground a 19 socket down to 18 because of the rust yesterday.

>>17154806
>desert burbrunner
naice. are those also locking hubs on your ifs up there?

Any year or model Toyota 4runner to avoid if you were buying one used?
Considering a v6 2001, 2003,
my budget is $5k.

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>>17154984
you're not referring to me, are you?

>>17150671
Otay this one is just stupid. If you give people nowhere to ride, they're going to do it everywhere. Just gotta make a containment [spoiler]board[/spoiler] area for the people to do their little autistic shuffles.
You probably don't have the amount of land we do in Canada so public land isn't as prolific. If you want to cut trails here, you just get it approved by the ministry and go spend your gorillions of dollars and manhours carving trees and mapping GPS coordinates

As mentioned >>17150809 and >>17153345, different environments have different needs.

>>17152495
North countries have weird environments and protected groups of moss that takes like 2 years to grow an inch. A few patches of ground may look barren but they could be anchor species for the three or four different other types of moss there.

>>17155805
nah that's good my friend loves his 2002. i think they're the same thing as the tacomas

>>17155805
if it were me id buy an 00-02. the third gen is much better than the 4th gen

>>17155841
Yes, I am leaning towards the 3rd gen 4runner.
seems like its really easy to work on if needed, I assume parts are generally cheap - nothing too exotic priced.

>>17155847
What do you consider "exotic" pricing?

You can also try and find a v8 exploder or a nissan pathfinder

>>17155871
>What do you consider "exotic" pricing?
rare parts, because they didnt sell enough models .. things like that... $75 for a specific headlight bulb... etc.

>>17155892
You won't have to worry about that when it comes to Xterras, Xploders (4.0 V6 be gone), and 4Runners

Where are you living?

>>17141727
Newfag here. Is that a 3/4 ton suburban? And what size wheels and tires do you have?

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>>17154823
Subadouches rolls off the tongue better

>tfw shopping for a suburban this week and can soon join the ranks of automotive shitposters
I can't wait :3

Also, does anyone have any personal opinion of 1500 vs 2500 gmt800 suburbans? I've read about differences a bit but I don't think the 2500 ultimately offers me more than maybe better reliability and a stiffer ride with worse gas mileage. I don't plan on towing anything and just want it to get into offroading with and to sleep in.

>>17156244
>tfw still dreaming of putting the Vortec in the Land Cruiser
meme me up

2500 is heavier

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I don't know if this is really the general for it, but this is the Suburban general so here goes. I have a 89 2500 Suburban. I don't know how I did it but I cracked a custom cross member I built for it while driving, I'm gonna blame it on the poor roads here in Louisiana. Anyway the crack was in the rectangular tubing and not the weld strangely enough. I plan on making the new one out of some 3/8 thick, 1 1/2 inch wide square tubing. This sound like a good idea to any of ya? Have any of you had the same problem? Also I did decide to just go ahead and fully restore the Suburban while I have it all apart. Any good ideas to do/ problems to check for while it's apart? Sorry for the wall of text and thanks in advance.

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>>17145515
>how do they handle highway speeds
>implying driving a jeep on the highway
WEW

>>17145502
just memes from first gen Cherokees that were lemons.

>>17145534
FUUUUUUCK DON'T TELL ME THAT"S YOUR LJ BRO

>>17156313
personally i would go with 2"x6" 3/16 with two bolts on each side and a gusset to the crossection

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>>17138904
Forgot to thank you earlier.

Thanks senpai.

>>17156357
Thanks

>>17156526
It's about time. You're welcome though.

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>>17156346
that was my lj : (
i died a little that day

>>17156346
>implying driving a jeep on the highway
THIS, fucking never again.. friend drove us to amusement park.. 2 hour drive on the highway.. every fucking bump. Wanted to throw up in the parking lot of the amusement park, when we got there.

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>>17156740
cummins swap it senpai

>>17156713
F

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>>17156745
yes

>>17143342
>>17145175

I'm actually a student at NAU and have been there for a year now. As far as colleges go, it's probably not any more liberal than usual. AZ's red enough that you can find plenty of sane folks in the sea of liberals.

The surrounding country is gorgeous, drive up Lake Mary Road when you get there, you won't regret it, fucking phenomenal views.

Only big complaint is that Flag's infrastructure is goddamn abysmal. Get ready for traffic jams anywhere and at any time. Takes me 30 mins to take what should be a 10 minute trip even at like 2 in the afternoon. Driving in Flag is fucking terrible. However, the moment you get outside of the city there are some amazing places to take a drive. Also, if you like camping, check out the way to Marshall lake, you won't regret it.

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>>17155777
>easiest way is removing the front wheel to get to it

For real?

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>>17157281
Yupp. I once had a Cylinder 3 (or 4. I can't remember) misfire from water in a bogpit and had to remove the driver's side wheel to get to the spark plug wires. Disconnect them, dielectric grease them, and put them back on.

The only annoying part is really just getting the piece of plastic on and off on the wheelside firewall.

>pic related
>spark blugs are right between the exhaust manifolds
Protip: use bogpit water to cool down the exhaust manifolds :^)

All of these heavily modified Foresters that people spent $1000's of dollars on. When you could go buy a beat-up Toyota or Chevy truck for $1500 that would out-perform it on the trail even with crappy tires.

>>17157391
>em pee gee +50%
>slightly more comfortable
>carries 2-3 more people
>doesn't have unused bed space
>doesn't sit up as high
Those are the benefits I see on the Foresters.

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>>17157353

Lucky you, on my astro I have to remove both wheels, the passenger seat, the center console, the ac duct, the dog house and even then its takes a magical combination of extensions and wobbly bits.

>>17157353
There goes my perception of Rangers being decent offroadan machines.

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>>17157469
She's a very, very capable offroad machine with good idling time (8 hours kills like less than an eighth of a tank of fuel). Saves a LOT of space and she's a narrow vehicle. Light and tows a lot of shit.
The only problem is they all come in a small size which means everything is really convoluted to work on (clutch change in the middle of the winter with no heated gay rage meant I just brought it to the mech).

I love her but that doesn't mean I would recommend them as pure offroad machines. They're still IFS and need to stay in their lane when on the trails.

>>17157417
how many gigawatts does that wire box give you?
why do you keep a dog house in your centre console? I mean, you're not going mudding in an astro van, heh. So how often do you need to change the wires and plugs? At least the plugs are right beside each other, too.

>>17157469
Oh and another thing. Mudding and water gremlins are a very common thing with all vehicles. I have a persistent problem with a cylinder 1 misfire that I've been putting off for the past 4 months that could just be from choking the air intake rather than the spark plugs themselves.

When I removed the cylinder 3, the plug didn't look THAT fucked so I've been putting off changing every plug until the weather gets above 10 C

>>17136637
tf since when does canadian tire sell any firearms other than bb guns. is this some prairie hick shit?

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>>17157417
i new a guy who worked solely on doghouses
he had a shop for twenty plus years
he blew his brains out a couple of years ago
>i wonder if the two coincide

>>17157551
Where do you live, fammo? The Canadian Tires in just outside of Toronto sell SKSs and Mossie Nuggies.
The ones on the borders of suburbs innacity (Scarborough and Missisauga) just started selling ammu-nation, too

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>>17157615
hold up
you canadians can purchase firearms and ammo at a tire shop

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>>17154984
No I'm referring to the subiefags who think awd is the same as 4wd.

>nice Tahoe

Thanks anon. It's my baby. 205k miles on it though. Original ball joints too, I'm not fucking kidding. I did a poor man's 2.5" tortion key lift up front (which rides like a bag of hard dicks) and a set of fresh moog z71 coils in the rear with 1.5" aluminum coil spacers. Tires are 33" toyo meme/t. Bumpers are custom welded tubular steel with a custom winch plate up front and 4 clevis mounts tucked in neatly, 2 on the front and two in the rear. The rear quarter panels have been chopped to increase departure angle and the rear bumper tubes wrap around the body and follow that angle. Also a set of 78" rock sliders welded and guesseted to the frame and a Shittybuilt 9500 winch with steel line

I made a dogshit roof rack out of square steel tube and booger welds and then went apeshit with chink lights because it was fun. Inside I tore out the tape deck and put a uniden CB radio where it used to be which is breddy slick. I also have all the light controls wired up to a remote relay hub so I can turn on any of the side, rear, or front lighting from like 100 feet away which is top tier titties for camping and shit (also I did it just because I could) mechanically, I haven't done much except when I was younger i fell for the CAI meme and over-the-clounter superchips tune.

If I fall into some more cash, I'm gonna have the guy that did my bumpers rip out the whole front suspension, drop the front diff a couple inches and covert the front to a mid travel kit with some coilovers, custom UCAs and LCAs and beefy as fuck tie rods to replace the limp-dick stock gm ones. Or just say fuck all that and put a Dana under there with coilovers.

>>17157721
That's actually a good question. What prevents me from running 4WD on the transfer case all the time instead of 2WD? Especially when heavy rain / snow / sleet?

Is it something to do with the torque converter and power ratio between the two axles?

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>>17157744

I'm not a mechanical fag but I would guess that your transfer case might melt down if you tried to run around in 4wd all the time especially at speeds for a prolonged amount of time. But Im just guessing here.

>>17157721
bost teddies

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>>17157873
and i thought we were the most normie general on the second most normie board

stahp dis.

>>17157891
>second most normie board
>implying
what is the most neurotypical board then, tay?

>>17157873

a..anon..I don't really feel like sharing my GFs tats with you. Thats along the lines of cuckoldry.

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>>17157416

but once you factor in being a nu-male faggot or a lesbian none of those things really matter anymore.

>>17157744
Centre differential vs. Transfer Case.

Transfer cases can't adjust split torque like a centre differential can. So you'll chew through tyres faster with 4wd engaged all the time. Just marginally compared to 2wd and not as bad as 4wd-l that actually locks the two differentials.

>>17157721
What axle do you have on it right now? It's a torsion so one of those "modern"ish dana IFS? I hear there's a lot of room for a D-xx swap under a torsion bar but you just have to extend a few lines, re-angle the driveshaft, etc

>>17157907
/out/. it used to be /k/ until all those depression memes go to that board

[spoiler]To be fair, i don't know what 75% of these boards are about [/spoiler]

>>17158047

I actually don't know about the axels up front. My CV shafts are breddy fugged at this point though. The rear is the standard GM 10 bolt solid axel with that sweet sweet auto-locking diff.

>>17157416
>>em pee gee +50%
we're off roading, faggot
>>slightly more comfortable
lol
>>carries 2-3 more people
>carrying over two people
>when those extras could be in their own off road vehicle
>>doesn't have unused bed space
who cares
>>doesn't sit up as high
retard

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>>17158263
are you really surprised by a subiefag trying to justify their cuckmobile purchase? Also, no one should be surprised by the vigor with which subiefags shill, its almost if they're assblasted by their purchase and really wish they bough something else but can't even admit it to themselves. Subaru's are truly reddit-tier.

>>17158292
The vigor at which you are assblasted about subbies is much worse than any actual subaru poster.

Like holy shit. I hate subarus too but I'm gonna side with that /k/ larper here.

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>>17158353
>subbies
confirmed subaru shill. Also,

>my 2 lines of text and one half-baked meme
vs
>several assblasted posts
>>17139837
>>17140046
>>17140194
>>17140534
>>17140910
>>17141050

this board really needs IDs

>>17157469
That's literally any gasoline powered 4x4 ever.

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Good afternoon, fellas. Did a run at 9,000 feet or so. Patches of dry, but plenty of snowgoating!

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Gorgeous weather in the front range today.

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It don't get much better than this.

>>17158263
Fuel economy is quite important offroad if you're doing anything more than a day trip for some forum avatar photos. But then Foresters ain't that good on fuel anyway. That faggot may as well get a LWB Suzuki sidekick.
Hell any diesel 4x4 would be at least as good on fuel as a fucking Forester

>>17158561
>what are jerrycans?

to be honest, I would rather have shit economy and have to carry more gas as the price for having lots of power. Fuel economy isn't going to do dick for you if you're stuck or cant get up the hill cause you're a regretful subiecuck faggot.

>>17158545
>>17158550
>>17158560
hooray this guy is back
howve you been my dude

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>>17158627
Good. Got a new job that gives me more time to camp, hike, and off-road. Thanks for asking!

Muh flex.

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>>17158715
>>17158560
>>17158550
>>17158545

Somebody talk me out of buying this. I really don't need another project but fuck man I always wanted a flat fender

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6119843142.html

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>>17158729
if you have the money and space, get this fucking thing.

it runs so you can probably flip it for $3000 if you wait long enough

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>>17158545
>>17158550
>>17158560
>>17158715
Youre the comfiest dude on here like no joke. Good to see you back, dude

>>17158811

checked and "4d" pods master race. sweet bumper too.

>>17158614
>what are jerry cans
Another object that sacrifices cargo space and weight. I'd rather have adequate power and not be limited to a 100 mile radius of a gas station. Extra power is going to do fuck all if it's either bogged down by extra weight or doesn't have any fuel anyway.
>not having a 600 mile range before even thinking about jerry cans
May as well drive Jeep poser mobile. Could be worse though, could be a Subaru.

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>>17158871
>40 pounds of fuel bogging down a v8
anon....I

You make a good point about the storage space though.

>Could be worse though, could be a subaru
MFW

>>17158887
Problem is that extra 40lb of fuel and container will be lucky to get a 4.0 Heep another 50 miles offroad.

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>>17158887
>>17158957
>>17158871
Storing more than 40 litres of fuel requires a dangerous goods transportation. This is because they are not in the fuel tank and are counted as a collision hazard. The notable exception is if you get one of those bed mounted fluid containers that can transport 200 litres of fuel from one place or another. Normally used to run generators innawoods, though.

This picture here >>17152803 is Taynger's bed carrying hexane, heptane, octane, nonane, and decane (kinda like gasoline) in protected from rust in metal drums. If I collided with a separate vehicle and spilled shit, there would be a major environmental hazard compared to a rollover with fuel in the gas tank. Carrying these steel drums innawoods has been quite annoying before since they're 1. hard to stack and 2. very, very annoying if spilled / dented / rolled over. You're also right that carrying fuel on board (anything under 10 litres) is next to useless if you have a beefy, old engine.

IF you really want range, get an aftermarket fuel tank that fits 200-300 litres.
>pic related
>land cruiser in south america
>transporting 1 m cubed (1000litres or 250gallons) of fuel to a service depot
>using a roof rack

>>17134109
Faggot car driven by hippies

>>17159010

>why is this retard carrying that literally 1 ton of liquid on the roo...
>"south america"
Oh

when you want to lay your vehicle on its side by going on a .1 degree slope

>>17140534
Nigger hippie

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>>17158811
Thanks, man. That made my already awesome day more awesomer.

Is there anything more pathetic than Subaru owners?

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>>17159063
I live in Denver, subie capital of the world, it seems. I almost always see Subarus on the trails we do (non-technical mostly). In fact, my homie today said, as one passed by, "Whenever I see one of those on the trail, I wonder how it made it up here... But somehow it did. They must be more capable than they look."

>>17159125
Got more pics of the trails? The one you posted looks like a crown vic could tackle it. I've seen driveways in vermont worse than that.

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>>17159135
Here's homie. I didn't get any pics of the tricky bits (though in retrospect I should have). It wasn't too bad, mostly the snow pack on incline. I've got 2 inches of lift and 29s, and I scraped in a few spots where ruts and gouges met biggish rocks and/or snow. I got a good video of homie sliding down a section and nearly clipping a tree with his fender.

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>>17158545
>>17158550
>>17158560
>>17158715
>>17159055
>>17159125
>>17159175

I gotta test a theory. Apparently I can only roll integers of 5 today.

Here's a little pond from the snow melt.

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>>17158818
Thanks dude. Put it on recently, like in early March. Trail Gear low-profile with a weld-on hoop. And yeh 4D pods are the shit

>>17159055
No you're awesome ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

>>17159135
i agree with you on the subafaggotry but in all fairness the difficulty of trails ever translates well in pics. ive been on some seriously difficult washed out, graded, rocky areas then get back and look at my pics and be like wtf is this gay shit?

>>17159251
>No you're awesome ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
no i want to put your dick in my butt haha not the other way around man!

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>>17159251
I have trail gear sliders on my tahoe. They fit perfectly I was stoked, good company. Also, I have a pair of those 4d pods i used for fog lights, and I loved them so much I bought a bro-tier 50" 4d bar. Pretty sure you can see that shit from space. lightforce shills will cry, but the hyperspot you get from a 500 watt 4D led bar cant be topped.

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>>17159032
Gasoline is technically around 0.75g / cc. So 1 kilolitre of gasoline is 750kg. 75% of a tonne :^)

But yeah... Me carrying a jerry can and a spare tyre on my Land Cruiser made me say "fuck it" when turning and put it right back underneath the vehicle.

I am not risking rollovers on the highway . It won't happen but I'm still spooped regardless.

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>>17159375

>spooped

>>17159375
>>17159010
In all my 5 years here. I've never appreciated an avatarfag until now.

You seem to have very good knowledge of the vehicles you maintain and aren't a full fucking autsit despite being a swiftposting faggot. I hope I can come up to leafland one day since your trails look rad

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>>17159429
>it's not avatarfagging if they're reaction images
i fucking hate avatarfags, senpai.

[spoiler]thanks tho. getting part of your income running some trails or carving new trails really makes you expedite your experience. plus i talk with the farm people on the reg who spend every day of their lives off road[/spoiler]

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>>17159429
>literally gobbling the cock of someone you will never meet

>>17159463
>not gobbling tay's cock
What are you? Some sort of homosexual? gtfo newfag

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>>17159354
Going with a Trail Gear rear bumper soon, but I'll be getting All-Pro sliders whenever I decide to get those.

My 30" bar isn't a 4D but I'll probably end up with one when I upgrade from my current chink knock-off

>>17159345
No you're awesome

>>17159010
>The notable exception is if you get one of those bed mounted fluid containers that can transport 200 litres of fuel from one place or another.
If you're referring to one like in the picture, that's still illegal for transporting fuel. You'd at minimum need one of the tags indicating you're transporting flammable materials and you might need a CDL as well. Guy got busted about a month back with two of those in a trailer and they threw the book at him.

>>17160438
No no. It's a toolbox setup that mounts right before your rear window.

Those technically count as a "gas tank". If you're carrying anything besides gas or water in them, they don't have to be labelled

The one in the picture is a carboy and should be labelled. But it is South America afterall

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Got any plans for Sunday /org/?

Spent a few hours with a buddy today first driving tracks out in the bush then climbing up a steep hill and cutting sick in a quarry. First time really going offroad and god damn I see why people love it so much.

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We found an awesome little spot too out in the middle of nowhere with all these little hills and shit to climb, great for a newbie like myself. Can't wait until it rains next, the place would be 10X more fun.

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Anyone ever own one of these?

>>17160679
>>17160800
i am so jelly of you ausfags that looks sofun man

>>17160800
Those look so great to catch air.

Post front end.

>>17159462
Yes it is avatarfagging, and we went through this before. You were doing okay but you're starting to get out of control again. Reign it in, or face the consequences.

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I'm an avatarfag and I'm willing to admit that

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>>17162827
Admittion is the first step on the road to recovery

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>>17157721
How did you set up the remote relay hub? I love that idea but I doubt I would personally go that route. I have plenty of available switches in my center console to hook future lights to. Only issue for me is I have a battery cutoff switch, so whenever the truck is off the batteries are disconnected out of habit. That's why I haven't considered a remote starter for it either.

The front light on the bumper, is that an amber filter or red? If red, Y?

>Subiesfags
Actually, a buddy of mine who I wheel with also has a Forester. It's not as capable as a truck in the extreme stuff, but you'd be surprise how often we underestimate it. They're surprisingly more capable than most people give them credit for haha. Still not the route I would personally take but I can see why people like them!

>>17162854
The tacc has a subbie too.

Maybe he should switch the AWD centre diff into the taco :^)

>>17162838
>/org/
>off road general
>wanting people to be on the road
subbie pls

>>17162789
>tfw
>only person here taking new pictures weekly of rig on the trails
Because of /ORG/, I have a folder of 1gb of pictures of my vehicles on different trails since December. I never took pictures before this and kinda regret that.
Plus baes started saying my IRL tayposting is getting out of hand and I kinda agree

also:
>was rangebanned a few weeks ago because of some MLP fag in downtown toronto
>fucking leafs amirite
pls no