/ORG/ - Off Road General

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>>17108538
>no more snow edition
speak for yourself :^)

>>17108559
You lucky bastard.

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Heh

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Posting from the other thread

I'm thinking about getting pic related; the problem is it's a rare and expensive car. It obviously doesn't exist here, so I would have to order it from the US, I looked around and similar models range from 20-60k, not including shipping costs.

inb4: rich arab. I'm an expat, and not very rich.
https://www.fj.co/detail/1982-Land-Cruiser-FJ43_131

>>17108645
Just buy a YJ.

>making a fool of myself
>burb going on about "my spacers are used as spacers not as spacers so it's ok"
Lmfao

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>>17108692

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>>17108698

>>17108659
are you yellow yj guy
>>17108645
but yeah what this guy said >>17108659

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>>17108659
do not buy a yj with a 2.5 though

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Ah yes, I've heard of this Iceland fella before.

>>17108710
>>17108713
no that wasn't yellow yj guy,m i'm yellow yj guy

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*overtakes you backwards*

>>17108713
>have friend with 2.5 yj
>can barely keep up on interstate with my ranger and friend's fzj80 with stock gears and 35s.
My ranger is pretty slow but at least I can break 80mph no problem.

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>>17108748
>ford ranger
>IFS
jeep yj is still better. ;)

>>17108759
Maybe for straight wheeling but for long trips far away the ranger is a luxury car compared to the YJ. I don't know how he can deal.

>>17108645
At first I was like "20-60k?!!"
Then I saw it was a ground up repro with later model 1FZ engine/gearbox. Very neat.
Love to see the J45 LWB with a 1HD.

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>>17108645

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First for what OVERLAND/camping upgrades have you made to your rig?

>>17108538
I recently acquired a 1992 Ranger with the Cologne V6. It makes a whopping (((155 hp))).

I have rarely offroaded before, despite living next to a massive >100mi empty desert. Only times I have utilized it was in an AW11 for shits and giggles.

I have now come to the dilemma of buying wheels and tires for aforementioned shitbox Ranger. What do you guys recommend?

Nothing too expensive pls, I already dump all of my tire money into my SW20.

>>17108703
Tubbo car lmao

>>17109758
I have a duffel bag filled with toilet paper.

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IM SO HAPPY THESE THREADS ARE CONSISTENT NOW!!!

>>17109764
if you dont plan on doing a suspension lift just get a one size up from stock all terrain tire
bfg ko2
goodyear duratrac
cooper st maxx
hancook dynapro
really any reputable brand is fine

hello /org/. There's a 2007 FJ for sale near me, 54k miles, one owner. They're asking $19k. Is this a good deal? I've looked at FJs before and know some of the problems to look for (I've seen upholstery and door panels that were broken and problems with the dash/head unit). One thing that has me kind of apprehensive is I have yet to get a definite answer on whether or not the FJs require premium fuel. Inside the gas cap and in the manual it says use premium, but I know they use the same engine/transmission of the tacoma(?) so shouldn't it be fine with regular gas?

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Just bought a stock jeep liberty I want to use to get /out/ and potentially off road for camping. Not looking to crawl or anything.
Any recommendations for modifications to make off reading easier/smoother/faster/etc? Again, not looking to crawl.
Pic related. Did a little exploring today.

>>17110103
The only thing you need to do is get the right kind of tires. If your just looking to take it out on forests roads what you have is perfect.

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>>17109758
>"THAT GIRL" med pack
>half-life Camp scout badge
>pair of glasses
Nice. But why are these on the window?

I got a jack, air compressor/tyre repair kit, winch and some sort of recovery tools (for solo travelling), and bag of spare clothes vacuum wrapped to the size of a daily newspaper.

>>17108748
Taynger breaks 100 when passing people all the time (160kmph). It drops down to 140 after like 5 seconds but it can still stay up there destroying fuel (and my tyres)

>>17108759
r-r-r-r-r-jeep master race

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>>17110181
Camping, the pouches actually just have water bottles, toothbrushes, and other camping crap in them for easy access.
Pic of the vacuum sealed gear? That sounds like a smart idea

>>17110139
Tires are going to be bought very soon. Ones I have now are absolute shit. I know stock works fine on most forest roads, but I was just thinking about modifying suspension for comforts sake and for those roads that are just a bit more difficult than most easy roads. I just need to know where to start though and I have no idea (ie what part of the suspension to modify and what to leave alone). Haven't done the research yet, but will very soon.

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>>17110324
Yeah those military surplus gears are built more rugged and much cheaper than any bag made today. I can see why you'd get those. I got those weird German surplus ones and wear those innawoods simply because I got a box of four of them (with matching pants) for $50 4 years ago.

Vacuum sealed bag. Just fold your pants, underwear, socks, and shirt neatly, place them into a FoodSaver bag, and dry them up. I have them in my toolbox at my friend's house because I was transitioning from Winter gear to Summer gear in my vehicles. So no more jackets taking up space or toe warmers or shit.

I bought this thing off a guy who was reselling his Christmas gift for $80 a year and a half ago
https://www.amazon.ca/Foodsaver-Advanced-Design-Vacuum-Sealer/dp/B0048BPWGY

Works great. Cut the bags with a lot of slack so you can "reseal" them once you cut them open. I seal in shirts with holes or socks with holes in them instead of throwing them out.

Here's more taytay.

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>>17110360
Well shit, I spent so much time on /k/ that I ended up collecting a ton of those pouches. After a while you start finding ways to strap them to whatever you can find

I like that idea, I might just grab one of those vacuums up

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>>17110385
My butcher uses it for wet ageing meat and storing for mid-term. The pot shoppe down the street uses it if you buy more than one ounce of weed. I use it for cigars and just general around-the-house things.

Bags are expensive as shit but they save so much space in the closet. It was helpful for my friend who lived in a condo who could shove two winter jackets into the pockets of her cargo shorts using the machine.

Why not just use a tactical vest, fill the pockets with shit, and hang that up instead? It's like having 10 pouches in a single pouch.

As for traction aid, short of a winch, a set of plastic ones is a great help. You can also get a half-boot style one like:
https://www.amazon.ca/Tire-Snow-Grips-Traction-Aids/dp/B00A2XOBH8
Or do what I do before switching to 4wd: chain your tyres with winter tyre chains. The only issue (I hear, haven't encountered them personally yet) is what you hit a giant rock or a field of rocks.

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>>17110437
Because my 'tactical' vests are full of magazines and other shooting equipment. That and I like the fact that I can use up all my excess pouches lying about

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>>17110437
I have a set of maxtrax that have gotten me out of some shit situations, bit have never seen those snow grips before, they're interesting. Wouldn't the snow chains break before too long? I actually just had a conversation with a bud of mine about trying that out about a week or so ago

Does anyone have experience with the Holden Jackaroo / Isuzu Trooper 2nd gen models?

It's got a 3.0L turbo diesel and 5 speed, priced quite reasonably, but I'm not sure how capable it is as an offroad vehicle; is it at least comfy on-road?

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>>17111333
If it's the 4JX1 3.0L diesel that came out about '99-'00, avoid it like the plague. Seriously, have a google of the engine. They're quite reknown for failing injectors within 100,000km intervals, and at $600x4 (provided a failed injector doesn't take out your engine) it's not a cheap exercise.

The older 3.1L 2nd gen Jackaroos on the other hand are an absolute tank, and the 4JG2 engine that powers it Is up there in ranks with the 1HZ, TD42 and 4M4x diesels in terms of rugged reliability. They're a bit thin on the ground now though. The old 2.8TD 4JG1 Rodeos (itself a shorter stroke version of the 3.1) are also a safe bet, common as muck and cheap as chips.

Just got my first jeep, it's a ZJ. Anyone else have one and want to share any tips?

>>17111474
i hope you paid $500 or less for that pile

>>17111663
why so quick to trip

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Awww yiss

Ordered this used bullbar, gonna be here next week/the week after

>>17108538
Wnould have eache "2wd? Implying a meatloads to beencomildilmised?

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>>17112098
say what

>>17112082
Noice, I need a bullbar pretty bad

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>>17112157
Mine won't really protect much. Its mostly for taking the small blows the few times I do something retarded, mounting a set of lights on and also makes the truck look a bit tougher

Cant find a good photo of what it might look like as its a bar meant for the pre-facelift of my model

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BOI

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>>17112282
oh shit

>>17112375
>that pic
where my ATF at?

>>17110437
>pot shoppe
Are you Dutch?

>>17112082
How much and why

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>>17108637
God I miss old tops gear

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>>17108637
>mounting a gun rack
>outside of the car

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>>17112556
$230 + whatever the shipping from northern to eastern Norway will be
Why - >>17112211

Hopefully won't end up like this

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stock as a rock

>>17112913
What are you gonna do about it?

>>17112841
Good for tent campers while walking around in the campground i suppose

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>>17111333
I've heard the 4JKX1 diesel is the one to avoid like what >>17111344 said but the other models (diesel and gas) are beasts. I have a 3.2l and at 222 thousand miles+ and counting the engine hasn't needed any serious work besides normal maintenance

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>>17113390
thinking of getting a bullbar to cover up the fucked front end

>>17110341
I had a Jeep Liberty Renegade once. I did a 2" lift (coils not pucks) and did the pinch weld mod with one size up in tires, BFG AT KOs. Upgraded the fog lights to led pods and went all kinds of places with it.

My only lamenting is towards the engine; by 189k it was giving me metal shavings in the oil. It was a good run, Liberty. You are missed.

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Hey guys, can I play here?

I know it ain't much to look at, but a lift, skid plates, cargo basket, and off-road tires are in the works. In the end, it'll look like every other soft-roaded Suby.

>>17113641
Are you from Washington?

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Still waiting for my extended brake lines to turn up, in the mean time I started mocking up some ideas for a sleeping platform in the back and storage space

>>17113603
It's a shame you guys didn't really get the 2.8 diesel powered KJ, as that motor should outlive the the Jeep. Similar engine to the "Duramax" GM labelled in the Colorado.
I was contemplating buying a diesel KJ for a while before settling on the 4th gen Montero, as the rear cargo space didn't quite end up being big enough for our use.

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>>17112282
taco?

>>17112841

Its for when they were driving on the north pole. Noone is gonna steal it there, and they needed it to shoot at polar bears.

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>>17112841
if crownon is giving you shit about where you place your gunrack you definitely want to think about relocating
he's a born bred red

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>>17108559
what this guy said. we got a bunch here in CO.

Buying a 2010 Raptor from my dad, anything I should know about those things? How do they handle actual offroading?

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>>17114682
Never heard of anything that is very problematic with them, they are great trucks. And yeah offroad worthy for sure, really fun out in the desert, a buddy of mine owns one and he loves it.

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>>17114523
Yes

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Anon who was looking to get a Pajero here, after a few days of hunting around car lots and gumtree ads to no avail, I stumbled across this and got it instead, Came with muddies, 3 inch lift, ARB bullbar and a drawer system in the back, virtually all I wanted in a camping, offroadan' 4WD for the price range I was in. Fuck these things chew through Petrol, thank god it's dual fuel.

>>17112913
SO LIFT IT
LOCK IT
GEAR IT
RACK IT
BUMP IT

GET NEW TIRES YOU FUCKING FAGGGGGGGGOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>17114822
that is a fucking sick 105 my man
super jelly
bost more bics bls

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>>17115048
Don't be too jelly, it has 378k on the clock and needs some shit fixed ASAP.

Took it for a quick spin out in the scrub this morning after work as I only got it home last night.

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If I knew offroadan' was this much fun I would have bought a forbie years ago.

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>>17115048
And thanks, didn't take many pics though, was more invested in getting dashcam footage for the most part.

Is getting an old used land rover a good idea?

>>17115175
I don't see why not but then I'm no rover expert.

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>>17115175
sure
what year?
how much?

Has anyone had experience with LPG injection on a diesel of any kind?

It seems like an easy way to get more power and reduce diesel usage.

>>17113190
>>17115042
just got it on the road today, I'll post pics next weekend

>>17114497
So you're a namefag, diesel know it all?
Why?
What's your purpose, other than giving out way too much information on every single diesel engine ever made?
Do you think that makes you cool? It doesn't, I have the cool scale right here.
Are you retarded?
Don't be so quick, I know the answer to the last question.

>>17115657
>So you're a namefag, diesel know it all?
In regards to off road industrial and Japanese light diesels, somewhat.
>Why?
I like diesels.
>What's your purpose, other than giving out way too much information on every single diesel engine ever made?
I like helping others with what ever it is I do know about diesels.
>Do you think that makes you cool?
No.
>Are you retarded?
No. Autistic=/=Retarded.
Happy to help ;)

>>17116334
Forgot to namefag lol.
>>17114822
Good stuff, what did it set you back in the end? The few grands worth of fruit always helps.

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Drove up a mountain a couple weeks ago. What is the real purpose of airing down? do the wheels stretch to give you more traction or is it some kind of compression thing so you don't blow a tire when you hit a wicked hole?

>>17116354
Try it once at 20psi then again at 10psi. Once you compare 10psi to 30, you can see that in some instances, it'd be more beneficial to have aired down tyres than lockers

>>17116354
It makes the tire's contact patch larger.

>>17116409
It also makes the ride a lot smoother. When I take my Ranger out I always air down purely because if I don't I get shaken to death.

>>17116456
>It also makes the ride a lot smoother.
I'll have to remember that next time, corrugated dirt roads really rattle my bones.

>>17116354
>>17116393

Airing down helps a LOT. As the other anon said, contact patch. It gets better the larger tires you have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRMucnHURjI

>>17116334
>=/=
>equal to/equal to

>>17116337
Only 10k drive away, going to get the mechanics to really go over everything this week and see whats up.

>>17116456
Post randy

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>>17116354
>I'm not the only foz nigger
Neat.

>>17118020
Needs moar bull bar
https://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=20&Model=85&variant=525&SEARCH2.x=48&SEARCH2.y=8&SEARCH2=SEARCH

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>>17118020
>someone spent hundreds of dollars and dozens of hours to invent a worse Ford explorer

>>17117242
Fair enough, that'd be about what it's worth.
Good news is regardless of the high odometer reading those 1FZs are capable of racking up some massive mileage. Interested to see what sort of economy you'll be getting on gas, at least it's still reasonably cheap.
One thing the diesel equivalent can't beat is the endless power curve of the petrol six in the dunes. Grunt for days.

>>17115897
absolutely sick
take the running boards off already though you retarded faggot

so I'm up to four Grand Cherokees now. 2002 Laredo 4.0 Selec-Trac, 2002 Limited 4.7HO Quadra-Drive, and two 2004 Limited 4.7 Quadra-Tracs. the 2002 Limited is by far the roughest one but it's the only one with mechanical LSD. worth swapping those axles into one of the '04s even though the '04s have half as many miles?

>>17120701
>im up to 4 literal heaps instead of one decent truck
i mean wtf are you doing my man

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checking in after going to corral canyon OHV

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>>17120839

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>>17120847
>>17120839
I promise it's steeper than it looks

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>>17120862
last one for now, I didn't get any pictures of any real obstacles but side winder was a super fun trail.

>>17120803
I also drive this
>>17114615
I just have a thing for WJs for some reason. once I can find a reasonably priced garage to rent one of them is going to get majorly hacked up and get a long arm but I just took a new job that will have me driving 80 miles a day so I plan on using one of the 04s as a commuter.

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>>17120880
>>17120862
>>17120847
>>17120839
Looks fun dude, wish I could've made it out there. All I did was take the dipstick tube out of lunch Camaro's transmission and realize I got the wrong replacement tube.

Also my LBJs never came in this week so I'll still be out of commission for a while

>>17120992
damn, well honestly you wouldn't be able to do any of what we did but even then you could just ride with me or something. My buddy only had enough gas to do sidewinder once and then he was pissed off because he wanted to do more, I got him hooked on real 4 wheeling now haha.

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>>17121100
Ive been meaning to check out Corral Canyon so maybe I'll check it out once I'm back up and running. No idea what it'll be like but we'll see just where I get stuck once I'm there

Also I finally measured my tires. They're 30s, so that means my next set will probably be 32s which I'm looking forward to

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>>17121165
>32s

>>17120180
Put fifty bucks petty in it on the way home from Adelaide, including a bit of start and stop traffic to get out of the city. I only got around 170km on fuel before it began to run empty and had to switch back to LPG, Done around 140km on a full tank of LPG so far and it's only gone down 1 light bar out of five, hopefully it's not because the meter is buggered. Saw mechanic today and getting it looked at next Monday, so far he's determined the water pump bypass gasket is leaking and needs replacing, need a new tappet cover and gasket which is leaking a bit of oil all around the place, front left wheel hub is leaking and may need to be replaced and the synchro for 2nd/3rd is more than likely rooted, which is why if I normally shift from 2nd to 3rd it grinds a bit before going into gear. Can get around it though by either double clutching the change or slowly shifting into 3rd so might let it go for the time being. He said there's another customer with a 1FZ with 600,000kms that is running almost perfectly but the gearbox on it is on the way out.

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>>17121165
how wide are you going? 10.5 or 12.5?

>>17121490
Lol, the 2nd and 3rd gear syncros are always usually a little fickle in these boxes with high mileage and a hard life. As you've noticed, don't rush the shifts and it's fine.
On my old HZJ75 I ended up with just short of half a million kilometres, but by that stage second gear synchroniser was becoming a little lazy. Had to either take my time changing down, or a double clutch if I was climbing a dune and running out of power in third.
Other than that little minor issue, they're a tough box.

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>>17120151
H8rs gon h8

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>>17121644
Only had it for 2 days and still getting the hang of trying to get into 3rd flawlessly by quickly getting the revs up with a quick tap in neutral before changing. Going into 4th from 3rd and engaging reverse on start up feels stiff as fuck though, guy who sold it to the dealer obv did a fair bit of offroading in it so maybe the gearbox is starting to age badly. Love what I got but kinda wish I had opted for a 15-20k loan as there are way more options and better condition 4WD's I could have gotten for that price.

Same car lot I got mine from had this for 18k, fuck it looks so nice IRL, only 230k's, diesel, HZJ105R

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>>17121306
That's about what I can fit before I have to cut all my shit up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>17121536
No idea. Whatever I have now, I guess, maybe a bit wider for those tire-patch gains.

I'm mostly just excited to have some actual off-road tires instead of my shitty SUV tires

>>17121787
Why don't you get a proper 4x4, you fucking faggot?

>>17121806
Why don't you suck my dick?

>>17120550
No. i'm gonna try to make it look as stock as i possibly can and make a sudden transformation once I get the rock sliders, winch, and snorkel together. I already have the Roof Rack in order. It's nice showing up in paths right now running this thing like a grocery getter due to the "Lexus" badge.

I can also shoot through the sunroof (can - key word). We some sort of ISIS, I guess.

>>17121806
something something
bullying taco

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>>17121889
Whoops. Forgot the pic.

I really like the stock wheels on this thing. I feel like finding black rims just to go with the whole look of it. But that may waste money on them.

The cabin also smells like exhaust after I welded another pipe onto it and redid it. That may be an exhaust manifold issue but I'll have to go see if I can find the leak somewhere. For now, it's either all the windows down or all the windows up to avoid gassing myself (and others)

Next two weeks spent:
>fixing exhaust manifold
>rebuilding rear locker
>rebuilding front axle
>shopping around for a front bumper setup, still
can't wait!

>>17122238
Redpill me on why "Lexus" rebadged an 80 series and why they aren't total pieces of shit.

Americas stupid ass laws on based Nippon cars is seriously baffling to the rest of the modern world.

>>17122238
>fixing exhaust manifold
Good excuse for a turbo manifold... :P
I also vote for standard wheels shod with either 285/75R16 or 315/75R16 if you wanna go a little bigger. What wrong with the rear diff lock? Front locker functions as normal? If memory serves me correct the front locker doesn't function independently of the rear with the factory switch gear.
>>17121747
18k sounds about right, but for that difference you could buy a written off HDJ100, pinch the god-tier 1HD-FTE and build your own HDJ105 :D

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why does everyone bully taco on every bread?

THAT'S NOT VERY NICE /ORG/

>>17122336
So many variants, you lost me.

>>17122366
Lol tl,dr;
You should work on putting together a turbo diesel variant of the live axle front "Hungy" like Toyota never built. Would've been a fantastic factory offroader had they built it.

Someone pls help.

I'm getting a few hours of shop time with a car lift to put a lift and alignment on my ZJ soon ish.
But the problem is that it needs to drive out at the end of the day.

Will I be fine with the rear drive shaft? It's only going up about 4 inches and back about 1.5 inches or so. Just gotta drive it across town.

>>17122561
>can I run my ZJ with the stock rear driveshafts and a 4" lift?
De-complicate your shit, nigga

>>17122354
>2wd
Low hanging fruit

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>>17121806
Don't wanna. I've put too much into this truck because it's just what I have.

>>17121889
>>17122354
I'm easy to bully I guess idk. Probably just being 2wd makes me an easy target like >>17122709 said

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>>17122333
North America didn't get the J100s but they did release the LX470s which were slightly different. This continued as we didn't get the J200s or the modern FJ79s but we do have weird Lexus equivalents which are still "offroad capable". However, their bodies and bumpers cost way too much to justify offroading them.
You might as well trick out a Porsche Cayenne at that point. This is the same with the Tay Yoda Sequoias that exist out there nowadays
>pic related

But when it comes to the Land Cruisers vs the LX450, the only difference is the "Auto" climate controlled / thermostat operated exhuast system, and additional sound proofing under the floorboards and the roof. Even the grill is pretty much the same. Nothing else is different compared to the Tay Yoda Land Cruiser of the same year (AFAIK).
LX470s have a bit more differences but are also relatively the same.

In many places, the Land Cruisers are actually worth more money due to prosperity and tradition compared to the LX450s. They aren't total pieces of shit because the LX450 is just a 250lb heavier version of the Tay Yoda Land Cruiser. Unless you believe that the FJ80s are themselves shit - then we have another conversation as a whole.

>>17122336
Rear locker just won't lock. Probably some corrosion in the locker assembly and i'll have to find 5-8 hours to dismantle it and clean off corrosion that is bound to be in it. Front and centre lockers work great but it's weird driving with just front lockers.
I have yet to require any road where lockers are needed just yet. Probably since it hasn't rained for like 10 days.

>>17122561
yes you will be fine driving across town, yes you will get driveline vibrations, you will need to replace your driveshaft

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>>17122821
Oh and relevant story:
>go to normal stomping grounds to test it out rear lockers
>hope driving around for 1 hr will stress the lockers up to locking
>see 7 jeeps there
>all jks and all "part of a club/ friend circle"
>think "cool. didn't expect this. might be fun talking with them"
>wait 20 minutes for them to finish pounding back beers and smoking weed under a bridge
>drive over a glass beer bottle on the way back to the trail
>cross a 50 degree rock dropoff into a 1ft deep river
>no issue, drive to the other side
>first JK puts his head in, immediately backs out
>waits on the other side of the river for 5 minutes
>wonder "Wtf is going on. why isn't he coming up"
>turns out he blew a tyre
>wait 20 minutes to change the tyre
>spend the rest of the 10 minutes in the one hour actually offroading
I mean, they were cool guys. But this little mundane story was just way too "It's a Jeep thing" to not bring up.

Damn "Angry Jeep" aesthetics upgrade.

>>17108645
>rare
The fuck are you on about
Bloke on my street owns a 77 model, and a friend of mine is rebuilding a 1982 one. They're abundant little fuckers

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>>17122842
>Damn "Angry Jeep" aesthetics upgrade
anyone who puts that shit on their jeeps are giant tools

>>17124066
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35K4SRK2LIg

>>17122683
Wat.

>>17122838
I plan on having it balanced and lengthened

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>>17124134
yes and this is as fake as dolly parton's asshole

>>17120701
me again. the aftermarket for WJs is actually a lot better than I expected it to be. any reason I shouldn't make a trail rig out of one of these, but get something like an XJ instead? they make bumpers, snorkels, winch mounts, rock sliders, and the like for them with the added bonus of a V8 instead of the 4.0L, and of course axle upgrades are plentiful since it's got a D30/D44a.

>>17124066
they're just normies, senpai

nbd

>>17124306
The V8 in GCs is trash compared to the 4.0, just saiyan. But do a WJ build anyway, they're not nearly as common as XJs, and I wanna see it. This is coming from someone that fucking loves XJs btw.

>>17125033
I know it's not nearly as reliable but the one 4.0L I've got rid now has a pretty substantial knock in the bottom end and at Denver altitude it seriously takes it 15+ seconds to get to highway speeds on barely larger than stock tires. meanwhile that '02 4.7L HO has been getting the shit kicked out of it for over 200k miles and still has tons of power on tap. I've never had a single issue with that one that was engine related. either way, one of the '04s has pretty rusted rockers and needs tires anyway so I think that's gonna be the one that's getting cut up. once I get those two back here and make sure they don't have any major issues I wasn't aware of I'll probably start ordering parts.

>>17124306
>coil vs. leaf
>D44 vs. D35
To be honest, I don't know why they aren't more popular.

Thoughts on tan soft-top on rhino wrangler?

I feel like tan would look good but I can't find a single picture of tan + rhino so I'm assuming it wouldn't look good.

What's /org/ think?

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>>17125873
anon what are you asking

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>>17125933
tan soft top + rhino paint

>>17125960
are you looking to paint the whole jk with rhino shield?

>>17125960
Nah senpai I just mean the color rhino that Jeep makes, it's that picture - it's just every picture I find has a black soft-top, curious what it would look like with a tan instead

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>>17125993
oh
shit
sorry
gotcha
i think it'd be odd looking
but it's your jeep
perhaps someone here can shoop up a pic for you

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>>17108713
...or a 4.2

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>>17109758
>No oberlanding mods yet, been too busy fixing it

I've got plenty of room to work with in here though

>>17125993
It would kinda look like an SN95 interior, but on the outside.

>>17125644
I've never thought they were a bad vehicle. waaay more comfortable than an XJ with a lot more creature comforts, rear disc brakes, the '02 with Quadradrive is a fucking monster in the snow. they go way cheaper than XJs now, but they did have a $40k sticker price new. as I've said I've always had a thing for them but never been a huge Jeep guy in general so I wasn't sure if there was something glaringly obvious that steered people away from them but I'm personally getting excited to dig into one.

>>17126392
>if there was something glaringly obvious that steered people away from them
Hate to break it to ya, anon, but there is something and it glaringly obvious. It's called the XJ. It's way more available, less of the nice things you mentioned that you'd be afraid to fuck up, easier modification of the body, looks tougher if that's what you're into, mother FUCKING cheap, cheap and easy to add grand's good parts if you want them. Lots of reasons people avoid grands, but they all end with XJ. Nothing won't with WJs or even ZJs, but the XJ will always be the answer. Especially once the Chinese version becomes legal for import, seeing as they never stopped making them, just changed the name.

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>>17126733

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>>17121889
pls tell me your aftermarket selections so i can bully you like everyone does to 2wdguy
jk im glad youre finally posting some pics.
but srsly what roof rack did you order?

>>17122238
people black out the wheels on them all the time. looks pretty decent imo. if i was going to go wheel upgrade id get scs f5's in that gun metal grey color, they look so sick on cruisers.

thats quite the list but good luck, itll continue to get longer dont worry lel
tell me how the front axle rebuild goes. have you purchased your 19 rolls of paper towels?
>yfw even that isnt enough

>shopping around for a front bumper setup, still
S L E E S H O R T B U S Y O U F A G G O T

>>17122333
tay is correct with the 450 except he forgot the body cladding on the side. they are essentially the exact same truck though.
once you get up to the 470/100 series though there are quite a few legitimate differences that make the lexus worse imo (mainly the ahc which is a piece of shit luckily there are several removal kits for it though so its not that big of a deal anymore i guess.) the lexus versions usually go for better prices which is kind of ironic.

>>17122842
hooray, pics!
dem ko2s looking thin time for new tires.

M A X X I S T R E P A D O R

>>17109758
sleeping plat form/drawers
front bumper
does suspension/tires/gears/lockers count? or is that just considered redneck wheelin shit

>>17126710
>poo water

>>17126733
>driving around in the rain with your sunroof down

>>17126737
>forgetting to close your door when youre taking your poser pics

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>>17126843
i mean hnnggg

>>17126548
I've got 4 WJs right now. I have spent a total of $7100 on all 4 of them. in Denver a halfway decent XJ goes for $5k or more. 3 of the 4 of mine have heated leather, a moonroof, and Infinity sound. they all have power everything, cruise, keyless entry and, much better brakes than an XJ.

>>17126392
Exactly. I guess the reason they're cheaper than XJs in general these days if you have people like >>17126548 who get worried thinking anything electronic is an irreparable problem waiting to happen and just offer unquantifiable subjectives as to why "X>W".
While I'm not a fan of the older versions of quadra drive, it's easy enough to fit a more conventional transfer anyway, and the benefit of a bigger rear diff and proper rear suspension geometry more than offsets that IMO.
And while I like the old 4.0 for all its merits, it's still a severely overrated engine.

>>17126929
You may have misunderstood when I said more nice things to fuck up. That's why they're less desirable as off roaders. No idea about the lower prices, because every cl within a thousand miles of me says otherwise. Hell, when I bought my XJ I was looking for a ZJ, the best deal I found was a WJ with 350,000mi, bald tires, trail rash, worn out interior, and a busted transfer case, for $8900. Ended up buying my mint XJ for $3000 flat, in perfect order, new tires, and with a bull bar I made good money selling.

>>17127094
>bull bars
i never got this shit

>>17126968
You're a subtle, yet convincing shitposter. But your lack of knowledge on Chrysler electronics gives you away. And I don't dislike them for their issues, I just understand the market for offroad based on fact.

>>17127100
I don't either, but it sold for almost new price on CL within an hour of listing. And it was rusty as shit.

>>17127094
>$3000
they had no idea what they had
how old was the person you purchased it from?

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>>17127140
Idk, 60 something. He's the owner of the dealership I bought it from.
This is how I got it.

>>17127155
clean
got any interior pics?

>>17127120
>shitposter
Hardly. Yes, Chrysler's build quality throughout the ninties ain't great, but the difference between having manual wind up windows and electric windows is not the difference between breaking down and getting home.
>>17127155
>I didn't know what I got
Exception is not a rule. Nice score though.

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>>17127172
Surprisingly no, I've never been in it and thought "I should get out my phone." But big surprise, this is the current exterior.

>>17127177
I'm talking about popularity and the reasons why, not trying to argue semantics. Sorry if I offended you.

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>>17127201
>>17127177
aw. you guys arr 2 cute

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Trying to get this ugly fuck ready for Okeechobee mud fest in August

Anyone else got an event they're getting ready for?

>>17127201
>Sorry if I offended you
Not even remotely in the slightest. Simply sharing a view with someone who happens to own WJs, and as to why they're underrated.

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Very close to purchasing a Renegade Trailhawk. Want an off roader something with good mpg and this is the winner so far.

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>>17127307

>>17127307
Quick question, what's a Renegade Trailhawk retail for against say a Duramax Colorado?

>>17127326
Currently looking at a Trailhawk + options for 24k - Duramax is almost twice that.

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>>17126843
Well first of all, I gotta find a taytay calender that is smaller than my current ones. They're too long to fit in the front dashboard :^(

>front bumper
>winch
>rear bumper with tyre carrier
>rock skiddies
>NECESSARY SNORKEL AFTER TODAY'S INCIDENTS
>Roof Top Tent

After 30 000km - 50 000km
>35 inch tyres
>cummins or Viper V10 heart transplant
I have to fix the catalytic converter. So I might as well just get a diesel engine to save money on buying a new cat.

Also:
>any brand name off road products in canada
Yeah, i'd rather not pay the 50-150% in meme tax.

>designated water
>using the sunroof to strategically check the height of the obstacles
>not liking the open door aesthetic

>>17127313
It's not bait. There's just a renegadefag that occasionally appears here.

Just make sure you get a winch for it.

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>>17127094
well this is my 2002 Laredo. I told him it needed 4 tires, a radiator and all of the fluids serviced and bought it for $1600 with 167k. before buying this I looked at a few XJs, the last one I looked at had 230k with no power options, barely wanted to idle without bogging and stalling and they wouldn't budge on their $4500 asking price. I mean every market is different but in general I think XJ owners have something ridiculous in their head because the internet says they're worth something.

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>>17127353
>tfw i want all of those things too
spending 10k on accessories is normal thing to do right?
except i kind of think snorkels look faggy
jk i kind of like it
but idk if i could deal with people at gas stations yelling "YOU CROSSING RIVERS ON THE WAY TO WORK THERE, FAGGOT?"
bc thats what id probably yell at someone with a snorkel if i saw them so why wouldnt they yell that at me?

>v10 heart transplant to save money
now youre thinking

but cnt you just get them to ship it to you from america? slee ships across the country. how much more could it cost to ship to canada as opposed to like maine or whatever

>>using the sunroof to strategically check the height of obstacles
>yfw you accidentally slide slightly to the left and a branch jabs you in the throat

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>>17127307
>irs

>>17127307
>that picture
That is an EXTREMELY easy obstacle that in most cases I wouldn't even consider an obstacle. And yet this "Jeep" is being pushed to it's limits to overcome it. A wheel dangling in the air may look impressive, but it's not good for balance, control, or capability. This Jeep is making stuff so easy that it's not even worth mentioning look difficult. If you want to buy a vehicle to take off road, buy one that makes difficult stuff look easy, not one that makes easy stuff look difficult.

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>>17127307
>rear tire 13 feet in the air to clear a 4 inch rock

>>17127376
Would like to hear better alternatives in same price range.I'm not looking to spend thousands of dollars in mods to go extreme rock climbing. I just want something that can handle 95% of roads in the US.

>>17127437
>>17127430
I bet it feels terrible driving it on the trail roads. Suspension looks stiff as fuck.

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>>17127307
cum on me, bro

>>17127353
>I might as well just get a diesel engine to save money on buying a new cat.
I think you're severely underestimating what's involved fitting a Cummins engine where it was never designed to go... Although I don't think you're too serious with that suggestion.
Other notable J80 candidates;
>Isuzu 4BD1-t
>Mitsubishi 4D34
Similar purpose to the 4B-T Cummins without the Cummins tax.

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>>17127442
i dont really understand this. youre not willing to spend thousands on modding a cheap (but realiable and capable truck) yet youre willing to spend 3-4x that amount and take out a payment plan to finance something that is worse in every way
this is the most retarded thing i have ever read

>>17127474
>>Isuzu 4BD1-t
i feel like i read some thread about this
looks like a really solid option
still insanely expensive and involving though

>>17127474
And how could I forget, the Detroit/Chevrolet 6.2/6.5 V8. Easy as piss fitting those things to Landcruisers.

>>17127474
I'm not. But that one guy I met on my way to work who drives a '93 Land Cruiser 80 on 37s were.

I was gonna get some exhaust manifolds from him since he had them laying around from his own Cummies swap. He told me it just costs engine + $6000 to get it transplanted into the FJ80s. The $6000 was some kit that is special made by some small store here in Ontario. Comes with an instruction manuel and everything.

Considering all that, I may just go meme and get a Ramjet 350 new from Chebby.

>>17127420
Get them
>accessories costing $10k
Well. Does your $1000 winch pay for itself after the farmer gives you $250 for climbing a hill he's too scared to on his tractor?
Worth it for me :^)

>v10 heart transplant
The fuel mileage can't get... any... worse than it is now? Can it fampai-arooni?

Also shipping this shit up here costs the USD. USD I can spend on getting more offroad upgrades that end up paying for themselves :^)

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>>17127505
Oh wait. Was it the Ramjets that have weird torque curves that don't work for high torque crawling?

Or at that point, does it not even matter?

Maybe I can find one of those Police sidewinders that have a V8 with a four cylinder idle option. I think it shuts off 4 cylinders when innacity and becomes a V4.

Now THAT's meme.

>>17127475
>3-4x less
>$6-8,000 after mods
>reliable

Sorry, don't believe you.

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>>17127505
>$1000 winch
>not getting one of those chinese memepullers from harbor freight for like $180

>>17127552
not that i have followed that, but its entirely possible. even if i did exaggerate that slightly my point still stands.

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>>17127557
Taynger's front fabricated winch bumper was $1000 CAD = 730USD
Her winch was $300 from our automotive / outdoor store here 300 CAD = 220USD

After taxes, it comes just over $1000. So take that, fgt.

[spoiler]I think I said $1000 because that's how much it has made me so far when actually needing it on the job. But I think my autistic mathematics made me look less retarded[/spoiler]

>>17127552
>>17127563
the best example would be a 3rd gen 4runner imo. buy one for $4k, set aside $1k to baseline it and comb through it, fixing any issues it has. after that youre left with 2-3k for mods. even if you did 0 and stopped right there itd already be twice as capable as the trailhawk. if you used like 2k and did a lift/tires you would be beyond your needs capable.

>>17127578
o.
didnt realize you were counting a bumper in that equation.

i really do like tayngers front bumper btw. fits the truck really well

>>17127474
Fuck an overpriced Cummins. Drop a built 6.5 in for $1000 and call it a day. Stock for stock, the 6.5 makes 6BT power in a footprint that's easier to package and with only 4BT weight.
You're not going to make 1500 ft-lbs and you're not going to go a million miles between rebuilds, but so what?

>>17127442
A stock 90s Suburban will do 100% of the roads that Renegade will do. If you sometimes get into REALLY tight trails, the Suburban will still do 99% of what the Renegade will.

A few thousand on mods for the Suburban (still saving thousands vs a stock Renegade) and the Suburban will now do far more than the Renegade.

>>17127504
This.

>>17127505
Skip the SBC Ramjet. Ramjet intake has super short intake runners. Good for top end power and racing. Bad for low end power and general four wheeling.

If you're considering spending that much, then instead go buy a junkyard Vortec 350 for $300-500. If you want to spend a little more to give it some real low end grunt, then buy a junkyard TPI intake and buy the TPI Vortec adapter online. Towing cam, tune, and shorty headers. Now you've got a small block that feels like a big block and should be capable of 18-20mpg in an LC.

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>>17127405
Put it on treads!

>>17127608
>vortec 350
>already bought a land cruiser
Holy shit I might actually do this and use my vehicle to break up any Land Cruiser / Suburban fights that occur on this thread. Wow my life is a fucking meme.

The worst part about this is that it is actually really, really good advice. People always say "oh wtf you have a land cruiser. why do you care about MPG". Because travel range and overlanding. 1-2 year down the line, it'll be nearing time for a rebuild and i'd rather just spend the extra time right now looking for another engine and seeing what pops up at the scrap yard.

Too bad the scrap yard in Toronto burned down recently... ):

Also: what's an intake runner and why does it affect low speed torque?

>>17127595
I wasn't. I just said a stupid number and somehow ended up justifying it and convincing you :^(

[spoiler]like a snake[/spoiler]

>>17127552
All depends where you live.

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>>17126710
>taking dashcam too literally

This fucking triggers me seeing people mount dashcams like that. Modern versions are designed to sit up behind your rear view mirror to be discreet to both you and thieves. Take the time to mount it in the right position behind the mirror, tuck your wiring into the roof liner and along the pillars, takes an hour tops depending which way you are routing it.

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>>17127686
>Because travel range and overlanding
>not getting the factory long range fuel tank available as an option in japanese land cruisers shipped directly to your door
its like you dont even know how to meme

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>>17127727
To be fair, This was my first time taking the Land Cruiser innawoods to work so I just ripped it off Taynger and put it on to get some neat footage. I still have a lot of interior work to do and this is one of them. Don't worry, anon!

I have a dashcam I just bought that clips onto the rear mirror for the LC. Just in transit now so I'm dealing with this half baked setup right now.

>>17127686
>>17127749
also
>what are jerry cans
what makes you think youll need to do a rebuild in a year or two anyway? youll probably be plugging along with that engine longer than you think

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>decide to do basic as fuck service today upon getting my first 4WD
>$192 Dollarydoos for spark plugs, oil, oil + air filter

Fucking hell, you guys weren't memeing, owning and maintaining a 4WD is not for the faint of wallet.

>>17127686
>Also: what's an intake runner and why does it affect low speed torque?
The path the intake air flows between the plenum and the cylinder. Runner length affects where peak power hits in the RPM range and can move the torque curve up or down the RPM range. Short runners are good for top end high RPM power. short runners are good for low RPM power.

The TPI 350 was considered the best truck engine that was never available in a truck. It made acceptable top end power for a car but fantastic low end and mid range power. BUT the heads on these engines flowed like shit. The TPI intake combined with the Vortec heads and short block make for a very well balanced truck engine. A towing cam will help low end power even more and can also improve economy.

If you do this yourself, port match and polish the heads and intake while you've got everything apart. This will to a small extent help flow (and power) especially on the top end without sacrificing low end power or economy. It's easy to do with a dremel and the right bits.

>>17127100
You would get it if you lived in a country where big stupid animals like to panic and run in front of your car.

>>17127686
>Holy shit I might actually do this and use my vehicle to break up any Land Cruiser / Suburban fights that occur on this thread. Wow my life is a fucking meme.

>swap complete Suburban drivetrain under a Land Cruiser
>become king of the memelords

>>17127765
Lucky then, at least you have the option of tucking the wire all nice and tidy before installing the interior, some cars are a fucking pain to get the wiring nice and concealed in the roof and pillar covers.

>>17127832
How do you turn your dashcam on / off btw? I have to physically unplug it from my cigarette lighter in muh trucc.

>>17127783
Wait what. I put in 8.5 litres of oil into my Land Cruiser today and changed the filter for $30 (I get the oil by the 20 litre drum). Sparks are like $8 each.
What vehicle do you have and what year?

>>17127771
I have 20 litre drums for both fuel and water. Still... refilling on the side of the road is weird.

Also don't say that. The FZ will go one day
>having a six cylinder with the gas mileage of twelve
>what is 1FZ
Good point. Maybe I can fit one of those Jag V12s in it. Then I'll truly be some sort of memelord

>>17127789
I have never done any sort of engine work ever. But I am going to save this under my /o/ helpful screenshots folder in my computer. There are only like 4 pictures in that folder so feel some sort of accomplishment, anon <33

Plus I'm gonna look at the scrapyard for this once it rebuilds and reopens. If the price for a junkyard engine is only $500, I could just pick it up and let it sit in the gay-rage.
I mean, worse comes to worse i'll just sell it on ebay for starting bid $500.

>>17127846
My main cig lighter port only runs when the car is on/in acc, aka standard. Assuming you didn't install it yourself, you should see if the wiring kit that lets the cig lighter run non stop has some sort of cut out before it drains the battery, if it was done properly it will kill the dashcam when the battery gets low. My old shitbox mirage I bought off a teenager had the same issue and because my dashcam has parking mode I had to unplug it all the time too.

>>17127846
I have a '99 105 series GLX I just bought a few days ago >>17114822 as for prices, welcome to 'straya.

>>17127789
>Short runners are good for top end high RPM power. LONG runners are good for low RPM power.
Fixed my fuck up.

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>>17127783
Just wait till you notice a worn out control arm and decide to overhaul the whole suspension.

>>17127783
>he bought a land cruiser
You don't buy those if you don't want to spend money.

What do you people think of buying LED light bars directly from the source?

I swear I saw this exact thing in my offroad store for $100 the other day. I could use a bitch light or a reverse light...
http://www.dx.com/p/18w-1530lm-6000k-6-led-white-spot-light-square-working-lamp-bar-for-car-boat-407135

Also, someone tell me why I shouldn't get this LED floodbar for $50 and toss it into my grill for offroading times:
http://www.dx.com/p/120w-24-led-off-road-4wd-utv-worklight-bar-lamp-w-lens-white-spot-beam-10200lm-6000k-dc-10-30v-405831

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>>17128486
Dude. Just get it $15 cheaper on Amazon

https://www.amazon.ca/Nilight-Lights-Driving-Lighting-Warranty/dp/B00WE47FVM/

S P A R K S F L Y

>>17127686
>Put it on treads!

haha I wish. that may be a bit beyond my realm of daily-driveability

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>>17128549
It's more trouble than it's worth, desu.

We spent hours innawoods trying to retread the thing. Then it drove 25 metres and pic related happened. This is Taynger hooking up her winch attemping to pull the tread back into place. It's currently in the Gay-Rage getting treads off and replaced with tyres again.

Anything planned for your WJ?

>>17128564
What tracks are those?

>>17128564
the one I posted a picture of is getting sold or parted out or something. it's a heap. for now, all I'm planning is to take the limited slip diffs out of my '02 Limited and put them in my blue '04 Limited, and then that '04 is also going to get the Spadano Enterprises rocker replacement rock sliders because the rockers are pretty rotted anyway. after that, I'm going to finish up my F150 (lift, wheels, tires, vinyl wrap, a few other odds and ends) and then I'd like to start putting some time and money into the '04. it'd be cool to do a Dana 60, lockers, bumper/winch and lift and tires eventually. I live in Colorado so I would really like to have a full blown trail rig some day so maybe this will be my opportunity. I'm going to pick up the first '04 later this week and then probably the second one some time in June.

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>>17127307
>Trail rated

>>17128675

The only reason you need articulation is for traction. If you can put power down and advance then articulation is overrated.

>>17127783
As an Ausfag, I'll give you a tip. Don't buy Ryco from the Supercheap/Repco. Seriously overpriced. Find an outlet that does either Dobinson or Wesfilter (Nippon Max). Coventrys usually do them, but you'll find a cheaper supplier online.
I buy oil filters in bulk these days, as the Crooks at Supercheap charge $57 for a Z372 (from memory the 1HZ uses a Z334, not 100% about the FZ) where as I can get the Wesfilter items for $170 landed for half a dozen. Then I buy what ever preferred 20L drum of oil whenever they go on sale. Makes owning these vehicles a lot cheaper.
>>17127608
No kidding, there's a good reason why heaps of Ausfags get a hard on about 6.5s into Landcruiser/Patrols. Most "of the shelf" SBC adapter shit is applicable AFAIK, but correct me if I'm wrong. And when appropriately geared they'll achieve close to a consistent average of 25mpg in the Cruiser.

>>17128797
This. Ryco is expensive as fuck. $110 retail for a Z118, where a Donaldson equivalent retails for like $32, in NZ.

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>>17128715
>you dont need traction if you can just floor it

>>17127686
>tracks for cars
Is it ever worth doing something like that but half-track style?

>>17128797
Funnily enough I went through an independant shop that's normally cheaper than ebay. Gonna look out for bulk shit now I guess.

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>>17127727
hiding your dashcam is of the utmost importance

>>17128797
Trans bolt pattern and motor mounts are the same between small block Chevy, big block Chevy, and the 6.2/6.5 Detroit.
For bonus points the trans bolt pattern is also the same on the LS and Duramax.
GM trucks are modular as fuck, makes them super easy to work on.

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>>17127307
>califags ffs
and i'm a califag

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8hVDKELhQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV_oPhiLM_k

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Are these actually a decent way to mount a Jerry can?
http://www.morris4x4center.com/gas-can-add-on-bracket-sb-2740-01.html?gclid=CjwKEAjw3KDIBRCz0KvZlJ7k4TgSJABDqOK7zp1QOPBZDg-KtNRi5lN_L_-GtmO05780PoXqBR1jExoCgtzw_wcB

What would be the limits for a 2wd v6 taco with a locker and bfg ko2s?

>>17128076
>bilstein
Why not fox 2.0s?

>>17131905
>2wd Taco

Wet grass at the mall

Should overlanders start making their own generals? This is just a circle jerk fest of old ass jeeps and clapped out suburbans.

All u faggots talk about is lift and flex. Pretty homo if u ask me.

>>17131916
Nice meme
Your great grandad wheeled in a 2wd three-speed and his pappy did it with a chain drive. You can too.

>>17131973
Don't forget the taytay!

I tried that during the creation of /org/ last year. Then a few /overlanding/ threads popped up every few months and fizzeled out with 20 or less replies.
This is essentially offroad and overland general. But me and green X Tay guy is the only one who has done a 3+ day trip in the past few months.

Just wait until summer (unironically) or go to /out/

>>17132069
This summer I am doing a 17 trip with my girl. BC Loop starting at dawson creek. Cant wait to build out my storage on my 04 V8 4runner. Also getting an arb awning and awning room.

21 more days of work so I can spend 7 days off getting my truck ready.

t. Oilfag

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>>17131983
>Your great grandad wheeled in a 2wd

Wrong

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>>17132135
hey guys look i found a vehicle that your pappy could've driven if he was in the military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ffs dood

>>17132148
>He doesn't know "CJ" literally stands for civilian jeep
>He doesn't know they were marketed and sold to the public right after WWII
>Laughingsluts.jpg

>>17132148
>asshurt 2wd Taco faggot

Dude hurry the mall closes in 30 minutes!

>>17131973
>pretending to be an overlander
>hating on Suburbans

Research your role better next time.

There's a nail embedded in my LC right now. 4500lbs pressing down on 33 inch KO2s and it's dropping 10psi per day.
Will the press and pull job with the roadside kit hold or should I go and spend the $25 to get it professionally patched + pulled at the mech's?

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>get subie
>Have big rims/tires from last owner
>Want to do a lot of logging road and light off road driving
>Last owner never bought a spare tire the same size as the tires that are on it
>I do
>Too big to sit in OEM spare cut out
>Fug
>Spend a few months looking for a tire carrier that doesn't make a lot of permanent changes to my ride
>Find the knucklebone tire carrier that utilities my trailer hitch
>Cool beans
>Only fits 2" receiver
>Fozzy comes with a 1 1/4" receiver
>Ask if it will work with a 2" adapter
>Guy making them says yes
>Cool beans
>Send in measurements
>Takes the guy almost 4 months to actually build the fucker and send it out
>Arrives last night
>Paint it and put it all together
>Pic related
Man I don't think it hangs off my car enough, I really think it might scratch my paint. What do?
On another note, why in the fuck are 1 1/4" receivers a thing?

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>>17132069
>Only 2 people went oberlanding recently

Stop rubbing it in! It hurts...
I'm afraid of a tow bill home from the woods upwards of $2000. The plan is to go up camping by Memorial day in late May

>>17131905
>>17131916
Was hoping for a meaningful response but then again look where i am...

>>17132674

>>Too big to sit in OEM spare cut out

Was it the width or the diameter?

I've got a full size spare in my GT Foz, same year etc fits not problems.

But i'd much rather have a setup like yours purely for the fact that it would make it all that much easier to change out when the car is loaded up with camping shit etc

>>17132221
>>17132221
If you're going to be airing up and down at all, the increased heat and movement will most likely break the seal on one of those plug kits. They're not bad and can get you out of a pickle, but I'd just leave the nail there, keep pumping it each day, and have it patched properly.
I had one of those plug kits keep a six wheeler tipper truck running for a week before we could get a replacement tyre, and it held up pretty good with 100psi. But they really should be treated as a short term solution.

>>17132182
>the mall closes at 6pm
No it doesn't, not anywhere.

>>17131915
Because they're factory replacements, dumbass.

>>17132177
get your shitposting together mang
you're embarrassing yourself

>>17114714
Holy cow, where was that pic taken?

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>>17132182
i'm not tacofag

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>>17126244
I've got the 4.2 that's been converted to be TBI

>>17132825
Are you implying he's wrong??

>>17127307
The Cherokee trail hawk is better in every aspect. You get more stock clearance, can lift it more, has armor and racks from multiple brands available, has a better 4wd system, more articulation, option for a V6, and an actual locker.

The only reason to get renegade is if you're insecure and need a boxy car.

>>17132674
nigga drivin' a clothes hanger

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>>17132877
All that and it's still outperformed off-road by a 33 year old pickup truck

>>17132905
They're fiat platforms. He wants a "normal" vehicle he can take offroad, and Cherokee is the better offroad.

>>17132877
>The Cherokee trail hawk is better in every aspect
Nig. Ger. The fucking original Cherokee, a year one model that hasn't been taken care of, is better in every aspect.

>>17132810
>factory replacements, dumbass
Why not get something better than factory, dumbass?

>>17131983

>Your great grandad wheeled in a 2wd three-speed and his pappy did it with a chain drive.

And how much did those cars weigh champ?

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>>17132731
25" across and 10" deep for the tire
The cutout is 24" across and 9" deep

>>17131780
The military stopped mounting them on the rear because they would rupture in a rear-end collision.

>>17132674
>want off road subie
>previous owner put nigger wheels and street tires on it

>intead of keeping a stock spare in the stock location and saving for better wheels and tires, buy a matching nigger rim and street tire and a tacticool spare tire carrier

>>17132982
Because Bilsteins are fucking superb? Or do you need to spend more to feel important?

>>17133152
>he doesn't want the best for his truck
Get a load of this guy

>>17132801
What's a long term solution? Also, that's sketch AF, actually. if a bump goes over it too hard, I could ram the nail into the wheel and no one wants that.

I have a KO as a spare that I could put on. But then i'd be running 3 KO2s and one KO all time.

Anyone else have advice on a nail in a tyre? I might just go get it pulled through AND patched up and see what they say. I'll give my Fab a call in the morning.

>>17133307
Get a patch plug at a reputable shop, and understand that that's still temporary. Then get a new tire when you want to get serious about being an adult.

>>17132727
I didn't know you were serious.
Mostly because there's a regular here who's been posting since November who has the exact same setup as you.

We call him tacofag.

I did fine with a 2WD I5 colorado, desu.

>>17133307
Dude you're making a mountain out of a mole hill

Just throw a plug in it for the meantime then get it patched when you can. They can pull the plug out from the inside

>>17133322
but the new tyres cost like $300

Being an adult means spending money where you need to. But I'm not fixing this eaves on the left side of my house by buying a whole new eaves trough. I'm getting somd rubber cement and a metal funnel and welding the fucker together. It costs literally 20x less.

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>>17133331
Ye. This is the answer I was hoping for. So they can just do a patch after that.
Just don't do any high speed bog jumping when the plug is in.

sry 4 autism
thank 4 being patient

>>17133091
>Keeping a smaller spare than the other tires ever
>Especially in an AWD
nigger u wot

>>17133341
Tires aren't houses, stop using false equivalency. A patch plug is good, but it's still temporary. Buy a new tire.

>>17133374
It's fine if you are using it to get out innawoods. Then once you're on the road, get it towed.

>>17133402
False equivalence - fair enough.

However, if I take it to a radial patch and not a plug, it's more liable to be worth the extra $30 instead of it. I'm gonna go pump it up and bring it to the fab tomorrow and see what they say.

I'll have to get new tyres next year anyway. But I'll see if these can withstand the abuse. Worse comes to worse, I'll just put on my spare tyre.

>>17133402
Fuck right off faggot

I've plugged tires and ran them for tens of thousands of miles with zero problems

People have been plugging tires for decades with no issues. Only a fucking idiot would buy a new tire over plugging a nail hole

>>17133374
Width has literally no impact at all on anything related to the AWD system and it is more than capable of compensating for a 1" difference in diameter. AWD =/= welded diffs

Stop making excuses.

>>17133433
Well this is a more specific issue. I plugged my mom's BMW michelin tyre and 80 000km later, it's still good. However, it's not being bombarded by rocks and mud and gravel and bulletcasings. I'd want to get the radial patch to just last me the next 6-18 months until I decide that I want to upgrade to 35s and regear.

Anyway, I'm not buying one separate KO2 tyre. that's for sure.

Is it worth putting one KO on the rear passenger side and having KO2s as the other three tyres, btw? Anyone seeing anything wrong with that?

>>17133435

Teams of engineers would disagree with you.

>>17133433
>I plugged a road tire once
>>17133430
You seem reasonable. And I keep combining patch and plug for a reason, patch and plug are different things, a patch plug is one that combines both and it's the best temporary option if you don't air up and down constantly. If you do, it'll fail. I'm not being an asshole because it's my hobby, I'm just being honest to save you trouble thinking quick fixes are good fixes.

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>>17131905
>>17132727
dont complain about memes if you ask a retarded question. thats not really answerable. what exactly do you expect us to say? a rock tht is exctly 16 inches tall covered in 2.56 inches of mud? kys

>>17132674
>3 football fields of space between rear hatch and spare
>brand new spare and 4 worn out in use tires
>offroading in a lowered cross over with rims
i mean i guess i should expect it with what you hear about on here but jesus fucking christ

>>17131973
there would be like 4 people posting in it
i would be one of them though friend!

>>17132069
i got back from a 2 week cross country trip a few weeks ago.
there are a few of us here.

>>17133324
I gathered that just curious how far he's taken it. I'm not planning on climbing hills or crossing rivers.

>>17133497
Maybe someone with a taco who s had some experience off asphalt. Take your autism elsewhere.

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>>17133573
>Take your autism elsewhere.

>>17133593
I know, it's definitely the place.

>>17133464
Really? Which teams?

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>>17133616
much better

>>17133573
Hopefully tacofag can chime in
>>17133497
>i got back from a 2 week cross country trip a few weeks ago
I don't want to see your fuel bill

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>>17108538
>>17108637
>>17108692
>>17108698
>>17108703
>>17108716
ÍSLAND ER LAND ÞITT

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>>17133625
>I don't want to see your fuel bill
it was slightly over $1k
va - utah and back will get you my man

>>17133573
>tacos
>autism

>>17133647
What am i chiming in for?

>>17133749
Dude is asking how good his 2wd taco is off road.

>>17133623
Not him but https://www.lesschwab.com/blog/post/replace-all-4-tires-on-your-awd-vehicle
and that's just over slight differences with a worn tire over a new tire much less a full 1" difference

>>17133623
http://www.souzastireservice.com/tires-101/tire-matching-awd-4wd.aspx
>Subarus have, to our knowledge, the tightest tolerance of any AWD system. Since we see so many, we can tell you what the tolerance is. It can be stated in two ways: The first is 2/32nds tread depth across all four tires. The problem with this is that actual tire dimensions can vary from brand to brand and even from model to model. Therefore the 2/32nds rule is only good if you have the exact same size, brand, and model tire. The other way to check is to measure the tire around the circumference and then the tolerance is 1/4". That was circumference, not diameter, so you have to have a flexible tape ruler and measure around the tread of the tire. Also, having air in the tire affects the circumference. Though the change due to having air in it is only about 1/8", it's pretty critical since the tolerance is only 1/4". Therefore, to get an accurate measurement, it's necessary to let the air out before you measure (since the prospective replacement probably won't be aired up). This second method allows you to check compatibility with any make or model of tire. When we were almost finished with this article, a Subaru came in that needed only one tire, so the picture shows us measuring the prospective replacement tire with our "Subaru Tool".
>You may ask what the big deal is? Well, on the Subarus, if all four tires aren't matched within 1/4" around the circumference, you will break the transmission, not maybe or sometimes - it definitely happens. Granted it won't happen overnight, and the AWD on many Subarus can be disabled, but the transmissions can definitely get ruined and then they have to be repaired or replaced. Then the cost will be a lot more than the cost of tires!

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>>17133783
With the factory locker it's surprisingly capable, but don't expect to do any climblimg aside from trails and fire roads

>>17133923
Dude there are some trails that you would not even be able to touch due to the hills and mud.

At least you can overland pretty well.

>>17133658
That's not too bad. What was your average interstate speed?

>>17133652
Nice. where are you located?

>>17133497
Shhh. People with money and time away from their jobs are not welcome here.

>>17133811
Can someone bogpill me on this subaru 4x4 meme? Are they very good or very bad for offroading?