How do i make Ghost Trap Edition
no /prod/ thread in sight so i thought i'd make one
mixing on headphones, yes or no?
if yes, which headphones do you use?
Sennheiser HD215 here
also r8 my shitty work in progress
FL, most of it is synth1 with the exception of the drums which are a basic 808
i think it needs some kind of prominent lead, but it might clutter things up even more
I've only been producing around 4 months so someone correct me if i'm wrong, but there isn't much loss in mixing on headphones if you have another place to monitor the sound to some degree for comparison?
Also, if you are using headphones like your Sennheiser's then there shouldn't be vast discrepancies between the true sound and the sound you hear on playback.
Ghost trap (I can only assume) is going to have ambient p& synths with thick, widened sort of sub and heavy kick underneath that sub. Claps are traps snares. Trap uses triplets so dont be afraid to line things up off time. Trap also uses velocity ramps within hi hats to add undertone and texture to the simple drum beats.
By this, i mean laying 8 (or however many) hi hat hits with progressively harder velocity towards the end of a 4/8/16 bar frame, in effect it will add a cresendo to the mix.
Sub bass should be prominent in the mix, but still underneath the rest of the track.
current project clip - heavy drum and bass
Following up with an anon who was telling me about getting an external sound card over an internal.
>An external will allow you to route your audio out to monitors, as well as to route in external instruments. See how that one has a quarter inch headphone output and mic input? It likely has line outputs on the back as well to send audio to monitors (or other outboard gear).
So basically, an external one will have more hands-on functionality I take it rather than an internal sound card? That's the main advantage I take it, no?
I used to use headphones a long time ago (Beats then Sony for quality), and I don't regret switching to monitors.
I don't have much up, but I do mostly boombap and trap here
the Ghost trap thing was a meme, cause people in the last thread were asking shit like how to make cloud trap and ambient trap :^)
but thanks for elaborating on this, much appreciated
Thing is, when i switch to my pc speakers, there's a huge difference in the lower registers.. although it might be the shitty speakers, i was taught to make music sound good on any device, at least to some extent
>mixing on headphones, yes or no?
yes because i don't have enough for good monitors
>if yes, which headphones do you use?
>i think it needs some kind of prominent lead, but it might clutter things up even more
synth1 is the undisputed grand daddy of free VSTs.. been using it for years and years
it's kind of a one trick pony but it does its thing soo well
I like combining the arpeggio and harsh FM/PWM modulators with some delay for weird metallic percussion rhythm
some anon used this for /prod/ and I think it's actually pretty decent for a /prod/ general OP
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A short piano piece I did earlier this afternoon. I used Truepianos. How is it?
Hey guys sorry for long post,
I make music but mostly orchestral/classical but i wanna get into some reasonable fascimile of EDM/electronic production but I
haven't listened to enough of it to have a good sense of it really.
I really like this kind of thing
Kinda playful, shuffly, sample heavy if im not mistaken, like i say i dont have much of a frame of reference to describe it
(someone even telling me similar genres would be helpful). I realize it takes alot of work (i assume) to put it all together.
Cause im not that into EDM "in general" I kinda dont know where to start, I mean i know a bit about production, I have ableton and
have messed around with sound design and making beats and stuff but not too much.
So ya, could anyone give me any guidance towards the key elements of those kind of tracks and where I should start? I guess this
question isnt that clear but oh well, sorry, and thanks
I want to learn piano a bit as well, but I have read that you don't necessarily need 88 keys for that.
Although, what do you think?
I'm currently looking at the M-Audio Keystation and the price difference between the 61-keys and 88 keys is only 30 bucks, but I just don't know.
If the difference is that small you might as well get 88 if you have room for it. I'd focus more on making sure that it has good reviews for how realistic it's weighted keys feel
Alright, sounds good. Well, do you guys have any recommendations that come to mind for 88-key midi controllers? Aside from the M-Audio one I'm looking at. It runs about $200.
anything with semi weighted or fully weighted keys that also has a mod wheel and pitch wheel is what I would go for
I have m audio with cheap feeling keys and it sucks I regret getting it
Recorded a quick jam and some ideas I've had on guitar. I've been struggling with making drum tracks that go with anything I play, maybe it's my fault, but does anyone have tips on what I should add here for drums? Or is anyone willing to take a crack at adding some so I can study? I can't keep not doing anything because I can't drum for shit.
Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
I see that there are some midi controllers with drum pads. Am I really missing out on anything getting a controller without some?
And also I often read that people say to get controllers with aftertouch. How about that?
no that's why I went for mine
I have oxygen 4th gen with the drum pads and knobs and the knobs are loose feeling + shitty keys with no after touch and the pads are unremarkable not bad or great
I just automate paramaters like after touch and sustain pedal
I used caustic 3 wich is a mobile app for a very long time now and I want to move on, but I hate using fl studio and Im never happy with the results when I use it
I can give ableton another try but is there anything out there on a par with FL?
im into electronic music mainly but I think Im going to give actual instruments a try
experimenting with my ukulele on garage band is really fun
I like cubase a lot
I use ableton also and I think it is alot faster to work in for dance music than cubase
but cubase excels at recording real instruments compared to ableton
pretty much every daw has its own strength and weakness
never do final mixing on headphones. even crappy monitor speakers will give you a better result.
the problem with mixing on headphones is that they are often designed to boost or cut either low or high freqs so the way it sounds in your phones will be completely different from how it sounds on any speakers
Never worked on hard stuff before, always simple 4x4 progressive bullshit for 5 years. How did I do?
I already know of the following:
>I'm bad with limiters, like REALLY BAD
>Repetitive drums and chord structure
Do I at least have something basic going?
I was going for something as hard, loud, and dirty as possible. It's not supposed to sound nice.
Criticism welcome, because I'm pbad
does anyone know how to sync the DM1 drum machine app for iPad to DAW (Logic).
Download a DAW and see if you like it. If you like it then get a midi controller and maybe some monitors if you're really sure.
>get all the equipment right now?
you can never get all the equipment ever
fl studio is actually not that shit of a program
just read the manual and watch youtube to get the basics theres probably more help for fl studio than most daws
then when youre better look for this thing called the fl studio bible and it has advanced features of the program
Dude I guess you should try it to see if you like it but for real if you wanna do BEETS and stuff just go for Abelton. Its worth the money.
honestly idk why producing is synonymous with making DOPE BEETS these days and not like recording a band really well like phil spector days but man i guess that the direction shit is headed in these days. Midi sux.
you should get something with some drum pads. You dont need a huge keyboard if your not a proficient player. Your Midi keyboard should be a universal controller, faders knobs etc, not just a decent keyboard. Unless you just have tons of space or whatever
i need some drums loops like this song but i cant find anything, im using fl studio 11
what can i do?
you register and download it
its a free drum kit and it comes with various loops
you might need to translate with google
it uses kontakt 5 player it installs it when you download it
Are the singing samples shit?
Hey guys got a problem,
Ableton keeps crashing my PC if I use the notation Launchpad long enough. It's always a blue screen IRQL_NOT_EQUAL_OR_LESS error. I'm assuming I'll need to reinstall drivers or something, but has anyone else encountered this kind of thing?
Not that I had know of, but when I get home this will be the first thing I do, I've been trying to prod but this shit has been driving me crazy and cutting me off anytime I get something going.
Sometimes I mix with the headphones if I don't want to wake my roomates up with my dank beats at 3 a.m. but after that I always bump my mix through the monitors or in my car to make sure it sounds good.
Once I had these sweet high end sound coming through when I mixed on headphones but in the car it was no where to be found. Shit saddened me.
I have so much shit on my computer that this would probably be for the best, but I'm going to do the memtest thing first, and if it's not the RAM then I'll bite the bullet and start backing up all the data that I know and love.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with usb (we are past firewire at this point) and its pretty much the standard for beginner / portable interfaces. There is nothing to gain from having 'an internal with external module' connection. Its still a connection at the end of the day and usb has proven to be a stable one, as well as cheaper.
Flush yourself you pagan.
Faggots like you ruin any real street music.
Trap was made for the trap. Not for bitches like you to try and turn it into art. Its turn up gang banging music. So get lit or join the set.
Those are usually well out of most /prod/ posters price brackets. I thought you were referencing those 5.1 surround cards with a mic input that every beginning producer thinks is enough.
"This guy" here.
I believe PCI(e) should be faster though. With USB soundcards, you have to pass through a separate controller, plus provide a stable voltage (a problem with laptop running on batteries).
If you have a desktop (which I'd advise - bigger screens, usually better drivers for network interfaces which don't bog the system with needless IRQs every 20 ms, same deal with battery controllers - those thing raise your DPC latency significantly).
This is my guesswork though, then again - taking anything here at face value is a bad idea.
Having used both internal and external soundcards, (and both laptops and desktops), for production, I can confidently say I'll never turn on a DAW on a laptop again to make music.
Well, true, but most high end shit should be sufficiently shielded.
Besides, if you've got ground loops and noise in your mains, not much is gonna save you.
Depends on what you mean by "the wrong guy".
If you meant I responded to the wrong person, sorry, but also fuck you with your accusations too.
If you meant that you imply I don't know what I'm talking about and see through my bullshit - maybe. I don't really care. Like I said, take away what you want.
That's some idiot trying to make you continue being argumentative.
What I originally meant by saying "the wrong guy" was that you're you're trying to have a 1v1, and I am not the guy for that.
Gonna have to disagree with you anon. Its really the same and any difference is non detectable. I know people that run antelope front ends with 32 inputs and a usb connection and have no problems.
no need to shitpost here
I'm looking to get some monitors next time I come into some spare change, preferably between £100 - £500, looking for a quality pick within a medium bracket just to monitor my noise properly.
Headphones are great for my panning and phasing but to test crunch and brightness of bass and hits I need some quality, studio style monitors.
Suggest me some good monitors, don't worry about price.
I'm using garage band to record vocals for my EP. what are some techniques to improve the overall sound of my voice? Such as mastering? I already add some ambience and reverb. No auto tune. YouTube vocal lessons have also helped me a lot
Senheiser HD 280 Pro
They sound amazing but I just need something to monitor my shit without having to go into a studio or out the house lol
I've seen these around a few peoples set ups they sound phenomonal, nice to have the model tag, thanks.
I really like Waves z-noise, some bandpass filter and very specific eq'ing but i dont know shit about that desu
Think about it like this - you are trying to remove specific frequencies from the track. So tools that acheive that are what you need to search for.
It's funny that you try to use anecdotal evidence against my anecdotal evidence and call it a day.
At least add in some plausible technobabble if you wanna shitpost with me.
>Headphones are great for my panning
Wouldn't they exaggerate the stereo field though?
I would master my panning/phasing with a phase analyser, I like the clarity of being able to follow my sound properly and easily, i'm just talking mixing.
However, in a perfect world I would never be using headphones ;)
How do you guys write songs?
My two friends and I get together often with all of our hardware (multiple synths, a sampler, a drum machine, various effects pedals, a microphone, and occasionally a guitar) connected through a cheap mixing board into Logic and sort of just go at it. The results are often very interesting, but it leaves me feeling like with some sort of pre-coordinated structure we could come up with better music.
We've been doing it this way for awhile, so when one of us presents a preconceived idea, it seems inorganic and hard to build upon as opposed to the freeform style we usually work with.
Tldr how do I stop jamming and start writing?
and I thought we were just having a debate between two reasonable people, not shitposting like the other dude was. I use both types of setups, they both record audio just fine in a live setting. Latency exists in any setup and the difference is nominal when setup correctly.
Where do you think you are?
Shame the dawbench soundcard benchmarks have been taken down, but I remember reading PCI offers the lowest latency (sometimes lower than PCIe even), but performance of USB cards varies. Would love to see some up-to-date info.
>Mixing on Headphones?
Only if there are no other options. Headphones create an unnatural stereo field not found in nature. There's nowhere in the real world where unique sounds would be relegated to a single ear and not the other. It is because of this artificial quality that mixes will not be able to be critically listened to over headphones. I use Shure 800 series headphones whenever I need to be quiet or I'm on the road.
>also r8 my shitty work in progress
It is obvious you know what you're doing, music-wise. It has good variety, and my favorite part is that you gave the bass part a good amount of freedom. I don't beleive a lead part would clutter up the mix if you used subtractive EQ on other parts to allow room for another track.
Not the guy you're responding to but I usually tend to like to have an A part and a B part that can sort of be built upon. Like build A for X numbers of bars then fall back to B then build B for X numbers of bars and fall back to A. It makes things more concrete but leaves room to play around a lot if you want.
thanks for the tip
i made some progress on the track today
i think my lack of lead is somewhat dealt with now -
in the spirit of vaporwave i grabbed the first sax vst i found on google and applied some reverb, thought it came out pretty nice
What else should I look for in a MIDI controller aside from semi-weighted keys, aftertouch, and pitch/mod knobs? Currently shopping around.
Also, are keyboard "workstations" a waste of money even if they also do MIDI? Or is it better to have a keyboard completely dedicated for MIDI?
Last -- what are some good microphones that you guys would recommend?
An Antelope Orion is a couple of grand, and is powered by an external PSU rather than using USB power, so I'm not surprised it's tight. You're right that there's nothing wrong with USB as a medium for transferring data, it definitely has the bandwidth for 32 channels of 96khz/32-bit audio. Gonna have more latency than PCI-E or thunderbolt though
If I was to criticize USB at an autistic gearslutty level I'd do it by saying that the majority of them are consumer - aimed at people who just want to plug in a USB and have this really useful feature set for a very reasonable price - but you're making sacrifices by doing it. Something like a Saffire 2i2's running on 5V at max 1A and is a mic pre, DI, does AD/DA conversion and sends/receives it all on USB. It's pretty impressive what they can do with those resources really, but it comes at the price of quality. You're going for cheap AD/DA chips, or a just-good-enough preamp or just enough dev time on drivers. Of course there are also a lot of dogshit internal sound cards that make the same tradeoffs.
From all this you can tell I'm an internal sound card dude. I use an RME Raydat which has all digital I/O (ADAT/AES/SPDIF). The sound card has no interference from the PC because everything comes in digital, and the sound card is electrically isolated from the AD converters by ADAT lightpipe. Cons are you have to spend more money on the external AD/DA conversion - a headphone or monitor amp so you can actually hear anything from the sound card, and AD converters.
The good thing about the setup it is that you can build up over time - I started with just an Octopre MkII, but decided that the pres aren't great so I got a couple of Warm Audio mic pres and have them going into a cheap Behringer Ultramatch to convert to AES. Eventually I'll probably get a Ferrofish A16 or something so I have a lot more balanced line level inputs for synths or more mic pres - but the point is I can keep mixing and matching over time
Should i buy this thing? I want to do some breakcore stuff, but also some Minimal/House. I heard it's fun to play live with this thing, but i don't about it's functionalitys that much.
Roland also makes an 88 key controller with a realistic action from their digital pianos, but if you're looking for something reasonably priced that's probably not the way to go.
The semi or fully weighted one? I wouldn't recommend the weighted one for its keys, but it's got other features than that. If you're a beginner you shouldn't really feel much of a difference, it's going to be a while before the keys start dragging on you.
how do i make this not sound like shit?
When it comes to workstations it depends on whether you're going to use its functions or not. If you're just going to primarily use the workstation as a midi controller and that's all I wouldn't waste the money.
I'm wholeheartedly into programming, it's my job, it's half of my life, I spend most of my time on it.
Also, I like music, but I know nothing about making it, apart from playing few tunes on a piano. I understand that music production is a whole world, with tons of things to learn, practice and discover.
So my question is, is this something you can do as a hobby, without special education? Did it interfere with your main pursuits if those are not music production? Any programmers here who are doing this?
i made the stuff on this account in a week or so after getting a recorder/sampler combo for Christmas (pic related). No prior production knowledge or experience (can play guitar decently) Nothing impressive but I have a lot of fun and it doesn't interfere with my main pursuits at all (so far). Not a programmer though so I can't help you from that perspective. I imagine it would make figuring the DAW stuff out a lot easier.
>is this something you can do as a hobby, without special education?
sure, it would totally help you write music if you learn or already know how to play an instrument, a lot of people (myself included) started producing music first and picked up a bit of piano / guitar knowledge later, and usually that's fine
> Did it interfere with your main pursuits if those are not music production
I don't see any reason why it couldn't be a substitute to something like watching movies/tv or playing video games, so as a hobby it shouldn't take up any time other than free time.
Bend over FL kids, got some PD acid for you today
The patch is a combination of step sequencing, some rudimentary FM synthesis and FM + reverb automation.. all from scratch except for the freeverb~ object
FM synthesis in PD is very fun and rewarding since the math is pretty simple and the possibilities are endless, you can add endless mods/carriers and automate/modulate any variable you can possibly imagine.. something I sorely missed at times in FM8
Just started using Ableton, trying to use this TAL U-NO-60 VST, but it doesn't show up in my plugins even though it's in the assigned VST folder. What gives?
Has anyone ever solved a problem by picking "high performance" in the power options? What problem was it?
Is there any reason (pertaining to audio) that I shouldn't mess with the min/max processor state settings?
I've got cooling issues and I figured limiting CPU usage should help. (Yes, my fan's clean.)
yeah, my shitty ultrabook has the opposite problem than your thermal throttling, I need to keep it in 'high performance' mode and on power supply or otherwise it won't be able to do shit with audio without crackling because the cpu clocks way the fuck down
Link for "Audio Engineering and Acoustics ebook bundle" is down, can someone please reupload it?
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You probably have to be a bit daft to even try to get into it, but if you are, it's fun precisely because it's so challenging and open-ended. I've been making music with regular DAWs and equipment for years and years, accomplished most of what I set out to do and released a bit of stuff, that approach just doesn't have the same appeal any more. If I just want to play music and have a bit of fun I'll grab my guitar or some other instrument and jam for a bit, but I really enjoy finding new ways to go about things production-wise
If you're not into the technical side of these things or are still struggling with production, it probably looks needlessly complicated and pointless. but if you've got a passion for digital sound processing and learning more about it, a big part of learning those things, even in a regular DAW environment, requires quite a bit of in-depth knowledge of the functions behind synths, compressors, equalization, waveforms etc. When you start to touch upon the complex underlying stuff, the math, thinking in terms of frequencies and milliseconds, going in this direction where you make sounds ONLY under those terms isn't that large a step to take - especially if it's a fascinating subject to you in the first place. You have to approach an environment like PD or Max with a different mindset than coming up with a flashy, ready-for-soundcloud .wav at the other end, you do it to learn something, figure out the operations, heck just making a 16-step sequencer work is pretty rewarding. While I'm stuck making basic stuff work for a while - it's my first week into it - it's insanely satisfying to know you can alter any parameter and can come up with pretty much anything, provided you've got the curiosity and time to figure out how.
then there's max4live, pdvst etc that assures you can always take whatever you find back into the old familiar DAWs...
it's not the real thing but it's not that bad a VST, probably needs a lot of processing... if all else fails, try recording it to cassette and burying it in the yard for a week.. guaranteed BoC
dx16 has a sh101 emulator
you can also find vintage sh101's for sale
protip tho: SH101 are top wanker gearslutz gear that has no other value but the nostalgia attached to it. There is much better gear that you can get for what you have to pay for a decent sh101
That's how Tycho (and Deadmau5 I think) got started... Jaded programmers in their mid-20's who decided they'd use their analytical talents and technical know-how to master their chosen body of music.
Me too desu, but I suck so far, and I'm in my early 20's.
Honestly, if you want to get the BoC/Bibio sound, don't use any emulators. Get a few good synths (Serum, etc), a few subtle FX plugins (esp. distortion and reverb), and learn the nuances of the sound.
I wouldn't recommend any one video or source of mixing knowledge, I would recommend watching as many videos, and reading as many books on the subject, no matter how obscure or mainstream they are, listen to some of the stuff said here and cross check them with other sources, theres no magical tip that will get your mixes shining, and there is no shortcuts either, just learn and apply what you have learned, and always listen to the mixes on any songs you listen to, analyze and try to guess wha's going on, it's fun.
>protip tho: SH101 are top wanker gearslutz gear that has no other value but the nostalgia attached to it. There is much better gear that you can get for what you have to pay for a decent sh101
Eh! Give up then.
Harmor is good, Synth1 is good freeware. Don't fall for the Sylenth1 meme unless you want to turn into Flume and Zedd's bastard child.
For real, if you love your music, like really love it, either forgo amenities until you can afford a decent paid softsynth or torrent it and buy a legit copy as soon as you can afford it.
>Honestly, if you want to get the BoC/Bibio sound, don't use any emulators. Get a few good synths (Serum, etc), a few subtle FX plugins (esp. distortion and reverb), and learn the nuances of the sound.
most synths can get you that thick BoC style synth bass that you want, a lot even have BoC inspired presets that you can study. If you think the sound you're getting is not up to your taste, change presets, change synths, or add some subtle saturation, chorus/phaser, or reverb to the synth.
Harmor is considered a great synth. And I would take my time looking through freeware, there are tons of great freeware synths and effects out there.
that sounds like shit
>can't store patches
>nothing extraordinary about it.
>~$1000 on ebay
MUH BOC MUH UBERZONE
I'd buy one if I saw one for around 200, but holy fuck, most overrated piece of gear EVER
>that sounds like shit
not every synth needs to be a poly synth. mono synths have their own character.
With sub osc, noise and mixable waveforms
>can't store patches
it's not a complex synth. patch storage really isn't needed
>nothing extraordinary about it.
except for the killer roland filter and sequencer
>~$1000 on ebay
that's what the market wills it to be
>MUH BOC MUH UBERZONE
the SH101 was a staple in a ton of artists sounds.
A nice sounding roland filter doesn't justify spending 1k on a mono synth with caps about to hit their end life and the key bed probably shit. Unless you're yet another gearslutz user in which case, mad props to you
>if he doesn't spend thousands on outdated he must be a vst kiddie
what's your gearslutz username so I can listen to your trite ambient music?
recapping has a 99% of changing the sound one way or the other
then the key problem
then look at pic related
and tell me that paying more than msrp for a 25 yr old mono synth isn't absolute ridiculous
If I buy a secondhand Maschine without the software, can I just pirate the software and still use it? Secopndhand mikro's go for a little over 100 bucks on eBay, thought it would be a nice, small midi controller for that price.
I am willing to spend up to $100 for a good microphone. What can you recommend?
Well, I would use it's functions when practicing piano outside of musical production. Would that make it worth it to buy a workstation keyboard?
Are dedicated midi controllers usually more feature-filled compared to keyboard workstations that can do MIDI?
I really need some help on this.
I can't decide if I want to get something like the Yamaha MX61 as my starter keyboard workstation, or go for a good Alesis MIDI controller.
I want to learn piano but I also need my MIDI needs met with a good midi controller. Help.
>changing the sound one way or the other
That's not necessarily a bad thing, probably every unit sounds different from another to a degree.
You got a point there. I'd rather drop that kind of money on something modern.
I have a Casio CZ-1 in the mail tomorrow
Never used a synth before, especially a vintage synth and in case it doesn't come with a power supply I'm wondering if it makes any difference whether or not I get a cord specifically for it online or could I just use the same cord I use with my guitar amp
Looks like it just uses pic related for the power cable m8. I always love it when hardware uses one of those instead of some bullshit proprietary power adapters with a wall wart on the end that covers up outlets on a power strip.
nigga if the power adapter is built in to the synth itself then you can swap cables left and right without it mattering. these kinds of cables only carry power from the outlet into the onboard power adapter.
>What can you recommend?
not the guy you're replying to but i picked up a tascam tm-80 for $60 and it's p. good for the price imo.
a good microphone is nothing if you've got shit preamps though so you might want to split your budget if that's the case and spend half on a better mic preamp.
I have a bunch of those, on the ends of them they say 10A 125V
It bothers me because the manual (pic related) doesn't seem to match up
picture of actual port
Never had any kind of legit education with this kind of stuff, but I'm fairly certain if you're in the US then it's going to be taking in 120V. Since the cable is rated for more than that it should be fine if I'm right about this.
Just don't sue me if you don't bother to verify my assumption beforehand and end up burning down your house with the ensuing electrical explosion lol.
Thanks for the help. I'll keep the preamp in mind. Did not know...glad I'm learning these things.
Can anyone offer me some advice or help about my controller vs. workstation dilemma? >>61541762
Trying to figure out what to buy...
this isnt really /prod/ related but i dont want to make my own thread.
but i recently started 'managing' my buddies edm duo/project and dont really know what i should be doing. im getting emails for people that host events and festivals and so i plan on shooting their EPK out to them in the coming days/weeks.
and then besides that i suggested we have a meeting every week to check on progress and make sure theyre both pulling their weight.
i dunno. any advice?
Well if you don't mind sitting at a computer clicking and typing around for hours, then a controller is fine, buy what you want, if you would rather feel like you're making music on oldschool gear while using what's basically a computer with small screens, then get a workstation.
On your first progress meeting, agree with your mates on a minimum period of time to spend in a studio environment together, as well as agreeing on an amount of rehearsal time when leading up to shows.
Also set up development goals - whether that be instrument lessons, production lessons or (if they are already proficient) discuss aims that your guys might have to acquire new techniques - set timeframes that they need to meet and agree on forfeits that they have to perform if they miss targets - fun stuff, don't fine them money or anything, they're your friends after all and it's tricky managing mates and keeping them as mates.
It's a mixture of both. I'm very driven to do things on my computer exclusively, but I also want to learn to practice oldschool as well.
The Yamaha MX61 is a 61 key workstation that has 1000 sounds from their motif series, and it's priced at $700 which seems like a good deal to me, but then again, cost comes to mind...
If I get a MIDI controller (exclusively) for way cheaper than a workstation, it would probably serve me way better as a midi controller rather than relying on an expensive workstation for MIDI.
I just do not know. I really don't know what to do.
Not quite sure as of now, I just appreciate playing live on an actual instrument...that's why.
I'm also trying to grasp music theory as well.
But then at the same time, I really need MIDI controller functionality, I'm just thinking that I wont get a lot of MIDI emphasis with a keyboard workstation because it's meant to be more geared towards a piano rather than a controller...so I'm assuming that it would be quite basic as a MIDI controller.
I just feel somewhat cheated if I buy a workstation to play music aside from production and not have all of the features that an exclusive MIDI controller would have.
Well, I don't have anything to work with as of now aside from my DAW. I don't want to click around without some kind of keyboard.
I don't know what to go with...
I'm currently looking at a Yamaha MX61 keyboard workstation and for the MIDI controller, I'm looking at an Alesis VI with semi-weighted keys and aftertouch, with drum pads.
going insane quite honestly
i think getting them to do fun things if they dont meet performance goals is a good idea.
i was thinking of trying to implement SCRUM into this to the best of my ability. and all of our meetings have to be over skype since im 3 hours away from one and 4 states away from the other.
also, any advice on contacting venues/event planners? i want to try and sound as professional as i can when i email these folks
why not just click around tho?
you can get a lot done with just that...
if you want a human touch get some midi keyboard, but honestly, with today's software you can make perfectly natural sounding trax with only your pc
9 times out of 10 you're not looking to contact venues directly, it's the promoters of nights at the venues you need to speak with.
Choose your venue and look at the nights they put on, then go to facebook pages or RA pages for the promoters to get contact info.
I have a friend who used to manage an electronic act a few years ago and most of their forfeits revolved around transport - knowing that you're going to have to behave yourself and drive the others around to shows is a great motivator.
I don't quite understand what I'm doing when I "click around" because I don't know about music theory enough to work with a software-oriented keybord/piano roll. That's why I want to get a MIDI controller, or even better yet, a workstation. I just have no idea.
struggle and flail around like an idiot trying to go from nothing to a melodically and rhythmically dense and interesting loop
turn that loop into a full arrangement by introducing / removing elements at certain times and making certain parts of the track do unique things
try and fail at mixing it and throw it in a folder labeled 'january'
Also wanted to add that the pic related is a MIDI controller I'm torn about getting versus getting a keyboard workstation that I can both practice music on AND do MIDI.
Pic related is fully focused on MIDI controlling and nothing else, hence all of the features you see. It has semi-weighted keys, aftertouch, wheels, drum pads, etc...
I'm thinking to just practice music with my controller + softsynth rather than spending a shitload on a workstation, but I am still not sure.
This might sound boring, but listen to your favorite music and try to match up what happens during what part of the song.
>Intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridgey whatever, chorus
I know /mu/ doesn't really like formulaic popsongs, so listen to whatever you want and try to figure out what kind of shit is going on at certain times. As for lyrics, just whatever pops into your head. Something funny, or serious, or dumb, or dark. Just take something and run with it.
i've been making music for a few years now but my drums always sound weak af. Anyone got any good tutorial videos I could watch to make better & stronger sounding drums? I use battery as my drum vst if that makes a difference.
Looking to get some constructive feedback on this thing i've been working on for too long. Pretty happy with it but I'm thinking the beginning might be too boring and maybe it could even do without the 808s and have some sort of a bassline instead. Or maybe just a reconfiguration of the 808s. All feedback appreciated!
Literally did the drum track off of my typing keyboard. Whenever I use midi shit seems off even more than my just putting it in manually. Is this stemming from writing the guitar parts first? I have all of these guitar parts and exactly how I want them to sound and I find it hard to play them any differently to fit certain drums. Can I fix things like this in production? A bit new to this, but I'm feeling as if I should find a band instead of going it alone.
Ableton and most DAWs are switching to 64-bit. 32-bit vsts will not work without bridge software. If you really want to run it natively and actually bought Ableton, you can download Ableton 32-bit from your user account on the website.
Sounds like you should go with a workstation. It can work as your midi controller and do everything else you want it to so you won't have to worry about compromising. I had a similar decision to make and went with a workstation and haven't been disappointed.
Advice? I know I have to turn down the bass
you're overthinking this my dude
IMHO tying yourself to one method of producing is retarded. A lot of producers will use a combination of software and hardware. Myself, I use my gear to lay down 85% of my sounds and a DAW for mixing and additional sounds
Also, this "muh old school" sounds like nostalgia glasses bullshit desu. As far as DAWs and computing power goes, what we have today is something most producers in the 90's would have only dreamed of. There is nothing wrong with working in a workstation, or using vintage/old school gear, but if you do, don't just say "I like old school", specially when you're so indecisive about the whole thing. Old school was tedious and frustating as fuck.
probably a dumb question but is having 20 + layers a bad thing? I try making simple tracks with basic elements but I just like how it sounds with a lot of layers. as long as nothing is muddled or sounds bad it's fine right?
shit, I often have the same synth running on 3+ different tracks because I want to mix the individual articulations differently
you can still make minimal-ish stuff with a lot of tracks
Hi, /prod/, stupid question for you, and I'm sure you get it all the time, but what are some reasonably affordable headphones in the MAX ~$150 CAD range? I have a pair of old Sony somethings, but they're broken. Can anybody give me any recs? Thanks.
Even if my phones are flat response and have a low frequency response of 8hz?
I'm not sure on the specifics of how such things work desu but surely theres not much difference, or could you explain what i'm missing?
Also, how do I tell the "real" range a pair of headphones is capable of projecting? Is there a term for this or something?
headphones cannot physically reproduce bass frequencies. They do a "representation" of them
mixing with headphones is not good because mixing involves listening to a stereo field and looking for any phasing/unwanted interactions between L/R. things which you cannot pick up with headphones since you're basically strapping a speaker to your ear and not allowing any "natural" stereo field to happen