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>edition edition
Post the tracks you're working on, discuss general music production. Learn why my midi controller is better than yours and why you shouldn't have liquids near your synths.

Stuff:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - looking for contributors (wink, wink)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki
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first for nothing in particular
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Hey /prod/, what's your favorite mode?
>Phrygian
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>>52984542
>tfw dad got the first post
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>>52984686
My favorites right now is Lydian and Harmonic Minor. Chord progressions in Harmonic Minor are pretty spooky.
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>>52984381
>>52982459
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>>52984686
I like Lydian in combination with maj7 chords
Super locrian and altered modes are also pretty cool
I wish I could remember how pitch axis worked...

>3 weeks
>3 minutes of music
symphony is coming along
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>>52985156
>thread is archived
well that didn't last long
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>>52984381
How do I make oceangrunge?
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what daw can i use on a Pentium 4 and 1 gb of ram, i want to see how old can i go
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>>52985901
renoise
sunvox
milkytracker
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>>52985834
There's no wiki entry on what exactly oceangrunge is, but the first hit on google is a reddit page with some advice on making it.
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>>52985834
Don't bring that nonsense in here, you degenerate filth.
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>>52985961
Thanks i will check em
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>>52985995
>>>/pol/
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WHAT DO YOU FlND TO BE THE BEST PLUG + PLAY FOR LOGlC (or whatever mediocre DAW you use from Eff El Studio PIeb Edition down)?

>ln before MlNl BRUTE and MASHEEN dub stappers pIs

Creativity is weIcome, but what are you actuaIIy RECORDlNG with your DAW? Who cares about pIaying with, what are you actuaIIy PRODUClNG with?
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>>52985984
If I understand correctly, it is a grungy version of seapunk.
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>>52986030
This has nothing to do with /pol/, you're just mememarketing in the worst way possible.
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>>52986037
>logic
lel
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>>52986074
what the fuck is seapunk you asshole
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>>52986185
i use logic, it suits my needs. been thinking of switching to ableton though, but don't wanna spend the time relearning a daw
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>>52986663
>Switching to a DAW with less features and VST versatility

Unless you're using dub step effects why even
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>>52986228
How new are you? Seapunk has been around since the early 2000s.
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>>52986723
what the hell is a dubstep effect?
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Hello /prod/, a while back I asked for advice over mixing a remix/cover I was doing of a Touhou song, and now I'm back with another remix and I'm looking for advice. I don't have any particular problems this time around, but I'm in the finishing up composition/starting to mix stage and I want feedback before I give it off to the people I need to give it to.

https://clyp.it/uqqwfrv5
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>>52987003
>https://clyp.it/uqqwfrv5
love it, bro
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>>52987059
Thank you
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i dont use a midi controller
my band mate does
but he writes most of our latest stuff, i record it, mix and do the rest.

i can write music too, but for now this is how we work. i use ableton 9

we make most of my risers/buildups using sylenth, (nothing special)
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>>52986723
well it's a totally different workflow and that might inspire creativity or give me new results.
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>>52987215
nice blog post bro, anything else?
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>>52987227

i use ableton. its pretty comfy
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>>52984542
>>52984740
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>>52987281

yea wtf else do you want me to say. im not an expert to be throwing any really important technical shit out there
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>>52987377
not a lot of people here are, but it's nice to hear from everyone
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>>52987377
Usually people ask questions in these threads.
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Yo, I've been told by a few people that that mixing could be better on this.

https://soundcloud.com/kinglionofficial/animalsky

Do you have any reccomendations of what I could do? Thanks
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>>52987003
it's cheesy, but not boring. some of the stuff sounds kind of muffled though
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>>52987517
not a soundcloud thread. and don't throw any effects on the vocals
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How did they do the watery synth lines at 2:20?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszEaxrHGTs
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>>52987517
Whoaa, did you ever watch Leo the lion?

It sounds like you know what you're doing with the music, you know you don't need to ask questions like that. Do what you wanna do. Though the first few chords in that progression are exactly the same as this one boards of canada song.
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>>52987215
>we make most of my risers/buildups

WELL WHOOPDlE FUCKING DO

You're doing more than Steve A Oh Key but Iess than an actuaI producer.

>TeII us more about your whooshes
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>>52987519
Ehh, I'm not going for serious. I tend to put cheese on everything anyway.

I hear what you mean about things being muffled though. I'll adjust them.
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>>52987816
Notice that as weII

>Expecting /mu/ to be originiaI

Whoops
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when exporting an ableton file what audio settings are the best to use?
-to put songs in your mixer?
-to upload to soundcloud?
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>>52987836

i said specifically that doing that was "nothing special"
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>>52987816
Yeah man, I'm a big fan of Kimba and Leo, and i kinda know the producing side of it. But now i'm recording so it's completely diffrent process it seems. And I don't even know who Boards of Canada are tbh lol
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is it a cool idea? is the mixing ok? is it a good groove? anyone want to add vocals or something?

https://clyp.it/dozir2bz
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>>52988082
>I don't even know who Boards of Canada are
check em out guy
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>>52988151
>>52987876

Can you send me which song is sound similar too?
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so many instruments already, and i haven't even added most of the percussion section (marimba, chimes, triangle, ruthe, glock, xylophone...)
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Do you come up with music in your dreams, or at least hear music you've not heard before? I feel like I have a few times but I can never remember what it sounded like in the slightest. One of my old teachers claimed that all of his best songs came from dreams. he would play them or hear them in his dreams and recreate whatever he could remember since he had great aural skills. I can't remember my dreams though, and my aural memory is very shit.
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>>52988209
>using the rounded piano notes

>>52988233
yea once that happened to me, I was making some music in my dream, but I didn't remember it
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>>52988209

I've been recording a huge song for weeks and my computer keeps crashing because it's just too much
It's a struggle but I'll finish it no matter what
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>>52988297
bounce all your tracks, start a new project, and produce in there. save the midis in another project or whatever, or you can just do it in one session, and disable all vsts after you have bounced your tracks
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>>52988297
>>52988297

u go gurl
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>>52988082
Thats cool, I watched it too when I was very young. The Leo the lion version, that is. Seeing that picture does something really special for me.

You serious about Boards of Canada? Holy shit, well props on making that then because its such a pretty chord progression. On your track, it could be cleaned up a little and the arpeggiated bell things aren't exactly in tune with the pads, unless you want it like that. I immediately assumed you were influenced by them.

Ive been trying to find out which song it is because I can't remember exactly. There is this one but I'm not sure if it's the one I was thinking of at first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM2ZIWUJVGs
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>>52988209
>tfw getting new synth this week
>patiently waiting for the days to switch by so that i can get my synth sooner
>braaaaaaagh
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new to the whole producing thing but I want to get into it, what programs should I use for doing hip-hop / jazz-hop instrumentals and such?
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>>52988416
literally any program you want.
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Anyways, the dudes in Boards of Canada are among the greatest producers of the last 20 years.
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>>52988416
>jazz-hop
we stay blessin it mah nigga
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>>52985984
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Si2K3ENPk

This sucks ass.
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>>52988105
bump
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>>52988105
Doesn't seem like there's much room in for vocals. How would you like'em to sound exactly?
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>>52988874
I just wanted some vocals to add some variety, and also some more melody. I could always shave out frequencies. if you want to add something that would be cool, I really have no specific sound in mind
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How's my tech/minimal track coming along?

https://clyp.it/lv4m2021

I know there's still a few balance issues but that's about 80% done
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>>52988297
my comp seems to be handling it fine, no underruns or anything.

this is what I have so far. took me almost 18 hours to produce these 3 minutes and they're not even finished
https://clyp.it/th24mhr5

also here's what my new accordion sounds like:
https://clyp.it/czeyxx23
I'm still not very good at playing it, and if you dont have high pressure on the bellows it sounds a bit out of tune. certainly has character though...
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Does anyone prefer to be limited by the number of music tools they use? With a DAW the possibilities are endless and this can mean very good things but it can also prevent someone from making anything of real value. If you can only have so many tracks at a time, only up to 1/16 notes(step sequencers), no time stretching(my damned mpc2000), only ROM sounds with no editing capabilities, etc, you have to really work for what you want to make. Music produced with certain gear also can have its own sound as a result of certain limitations, which isn't necessarily a good thing. Sometimes you have to use stuff like that to be able to really appreciate the power of a DAW.
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>>52989239
This is why I want to be rich so I can afford all of those super specific synths like the TB-303 and the Roland Juno
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>>52989264
Yeah.
>tfw it's completely impossible for someone to sell a 303 at a garage sale having no idea what it is
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>>52989374
They're only a couple of grand, plus maybe another $1000 for shipping to FUCKING AUSTRALIA
If I was at a Deadmau5/Skrillex/Diplo level of fame it'd be no problem
ugh
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>>52989411
>$1000 for shipping


If you really wanted something like a 303, you could use this D16 303 emulation plugin with a midi control surface and map all the controls. You could turn off your computer monitor or whatever and at least pretend like you have 303.
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>>52989239
I prefer to be limited to using only the hardware I own because I'm incapable of producing inside a DAW without it turning into a massive clusterfuck because I go balls to the wall with every VST I have installed.

>>52989264
>wanting to buy an original 303 instead of a x0xb0x
>2015
le_shiggy_baseball_man.jpg
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>>52989031
it's pretty dope, just some mixing and mastering, and your straight
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I'm looking realistic instruments vsts (specifically strings) that are not Kontakt.
help me pls
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>>52987688
>How did they do the watery synth lines at 2:20?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszEaxrHGTs [Embed]

nobody?
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>>52989710
you could try sonatina symphonic orchestra
its passable, but for realism you need to be using the good libraries that are usually .nkc or .ewi files and require something like Kontakt or Play to work. there is a cracked version of Kontakt you can get, in the OP pastebin
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http://www.ladyada.net/make/x0xb0x/
Damn I just got super excited for a second because I had never seen this before.
And then I remembered that I don't have much of an x0x fetishism anymore.
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>>52989710

http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/
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>>52989757
arpeggiation. random arpeggiation.
most DAWs should have an option to arpeggiate a chord or note, and then just set it to random and make it fast. I'll try to whip something up in FL to show ya
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>>52984381
>/prod/ wiki - looking for contributors (wink, wink)
I'm not gonna fux with the wiki, but if someone wants to make an acoustics section and put this guide that I made in there, that'd be cool.
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>>52984381
Am i a hack /prod/?

https://mega.co.nz/#!3UcCmZ5B!4pikC-K5JsClAYhhC2rBcBSNZUGnBBd5wexszkNUExo
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>>52989818
Nice, saved.
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Right now I'm working on honing my skills as a keyboard and bass player. I need to get more hardware as well, as I'd like to do as much as I can off the computer.

I think I'd like to make some synth-pop with a sort of glam-rock, and baroque feel to it. Tried enrolling in a keyboard class this semester but they're all full zzzz. Also need some more gear, All I have is a Roland sh-201, a digital piano and a drum machine
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>>52989846
>mega
yeah, you are
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>>52989757
https://clyp.it/n5hpr50t

not sure which DAW you're using, but this is how i did it on FL
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>>52989909
i just want it to be anon, anon
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>>52989769
>>52989792
much appreciated
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>>52989846
>https://mega.co.nz/#!3UcCmZ5B!4pikC-K5JsClAYhhC2rBcBSNZUGnBBd5wexszkNUExo
It's a little uninteresting, but not annoyingly bad.

Way too short. Ambient should allow the listener to get lost in a soundscape. Linger, anon, linger.
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>>52989958
its a segment not a song, i have a song, i am just giving a taste
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>>52989997
thanks for feedback tho

>>52989958
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nothing new to report yet
working on hotcues still

https://clyp.it/bln41opk

this is me from yesterday

how is everyone?
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>>52989818
DUDE 10/10
if this were leddit i'd give you gold
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>>52984381
so /prod/ how long have you been making music?
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>>52990726
approaching 3 years, although I was only actively producing this year
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>>52990726
15 years, though I don't post often
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>>52990897
im close to this, my goal for the year is to atleast put out an ep and get tapes made.

>>52990927
cheers, nice to see people putting in time
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>>52990726
about a month. I feel i've learned a lot thanks to /prod/, but that I also have about 99% of the way to go. Rate my mix, bros?

https://clyp.it/3t1shp50
I've posted this before but have worked on it since then.
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>>52990726
I've been making electronic music for about 9 years. This is one of my first tracks
https://clyp.it/wnla3lty


>>52990927
Word, what did you start out with?
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>>52991095
>Word, what did you start out with?
fucking BuzzTracker, then hardware synths
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>>52991082
Have you tried listening to it in mono? I have the feeling the main synth would mostly cancel out. You don't want that.

The sounds are okay but there's not enough going on and it doesn't go anywhere.
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>>52991082
I remember this. it's still pretty bad, that snare is awful, and the synths are corny. but you're only a month in right? don't worry, my first midi music was horrid. put in work, and learn, then start sharing your music, so you know how to learn from criticism, and how to understand producer lingo
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>>52991182
how do you feel about microkorgs?

i guess this is sort of an open question, any one have suggestions for a good synth for 500?
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>>52990726
~15 years.
started writing songs on guitar and Fruityloops 3.5 waaay back in the day
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>>52991082
Mix is completely fine. I don't think you should bother much with mixing techniques at your stage. Instead just have fun and make cool sounds. Don't worry about what your music sounds like in relation to the "musical world". There are a ton of techniques to make interesting production and I think that's worth more. Try this, automate anything and honestly everything if you feel like it.
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>>52991017
I want that too, but I don't even know what genre I should lean to, I have a fun time making whatever, but I don't really know what my "sound" is you know?maybe around 2016 i'll drop something for me couple of fans
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>>52991307
I wouldn't use a microkorg. Pretty much anything is better, but I haven't kept up with new models or how much they cost.

My first synth was a Korg Poly 800 II. I wouldn't recommend one of those either.
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>>52991267
Dangit, I forgot to set Audacity's record input to mono. What does it mean for the synth cancel out? Thanks.

I really haven't been able to think up a way to progress the song after that, I feel like a 'breakdown' or some kind of interlude (using a wash out transition?) is in order. I didn't know how the heck to end either it so I just slapped that in.

>>52991297
I could try to change the snare sample and edit the synth samples too. And to think I had the idea of ''wow its finally kinda finished maybe now I can finally upload it to soundcloud". I've just kinda been working on this track for like a 2 weeks (mostly trying to mix it correctly) that I want it to be over with lol. Thanks, though.

>>52991353
Thanks, I think I might switch back to pirated Ableton for a while as soon as I get my novation launchkey 49. Super excited to finally have a midi controller!
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>>52991353
Also, use automation to carry the song along. Do what you can to convey your ideas more clearly. Like you're spelling it out for someone. Emphasize song transitions with effects automation. Like increasing the amount of reverb of a track exponentially right before a new part comes in or something. Its not subtle and its not necessarily "cool" but it will be coherent and make sense.
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>>52990726
6 months actively making music + 1 month a few years ago just fucking around with FL and Reason and Ableton + approx 10 years of piano as a kid
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>>52991546
>What does it mean for the synth cancel out? Thanks.
I mean if it's out of phase between the left and right channels, they'll negate and you'll hear nothing when it's summed to mono. Yours doesn't sound like that exactly, but whatever effect you've got on it might still sound shitty when mixed down to mono. I have a hunch that it will sound shitty; it's got that kind of sound...
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>>52991606
is making music easy for you? knowing piano and all, I would assume you can write shit down pretty qiuck
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>>52990726

almost 30 years
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>>52992326
dope
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>>52992326
/old/ detected
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>>52990726
125 years.
as a dark elf, I've been studying and perfecting music in the underdark for most of my adolescent life. I sometimes work with drider quartets
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>>52990726
prolly not a long as I been dikin ur mum eh bruv hehehe
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how can I improve the way the guitar fits into this track? any other general improvements I could make? mainly to the mix, I'm still working on adding to the arrangement. thanks

https://clyp.it/lzcpqxdu
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In attempts to create the most dark deep ambient meme hook, I combined a Stockenhausen sample with some 19th century Russian poem recital.

https://clyp.it/ayeisgdi

r8 8/8
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how far can you go/push the sound with the volcas?
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>>52993048
put some delay on it, make it play somewhere far away in the mix

maybe a bit of chorus to make the texture better


I really dig the helicopter synth sound,how did you make it?
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>>52991307
If I had 500 bones to spend on a synth I would go for a Bass Station II myself, haven't actually tried one but it looks really neat and quite versatile.

>>52993687
With creative use of effects you can go a decent ways with them, stay away from the Keys though.
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>>52994450
What's wrong with the keys? It's a pretty decent monosynth paired with a midi controller.
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with what kind of mindset should a begginer approach music theory? i really want to learn but shit is confusing
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>>52994693
I own one and I gotta say I would have rather spent the 150$ on a Bass than the Keys, although I really like the delay, there's no external input for me to use it with anything else but the Keys.
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>>52994778
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons

Do all of these and do some further reading on what interests you.
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>>52994778
I'd really recommend picking an instrument - perhaps bass (everyone is constantly looking for bassists to play with; most genres aren't really demanding on bass player technique). Pick a genre (I'd recommend either blues or classic rock, the structure of both should be drilled into your head by now), listen to a few songs, start to play along. Realize that there is a chord sequence in every song, that the chords have relationships between each other.

Then you can realise that a thing called "scales" exist - basically a set of notes that go together - which have a certain special relationship with the chord sequences (some fit, some don't, some sound good, some do too, but in a different way).

Paralell to that, you will also see how rhythm works - starting from the basics (measures, how many notes can you fit there, note lengths), continuing to genre specific stuff (some genres have strict rules on which instruments can play on which measures, for example).

This may not be the fastest approach, but definitely the most fun one, and definitely the most thorough one. In my opinion, composers and producers who have previous experience with playing instruments in a band (preferably with multiple instruments) grasp new concepts of genres much, much quickly.
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>>52991082
bump for moar suggestions/insults; I'm p open-minded
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