Even if you like jazz, you have to admit all jazz sounds the same.
not all of it, actually there are different sub genres but for the most part I feel this is kind of true especially with like bebop and hard bop... Like I put on the Birth of COol its supposed to be so good but it sounded so much like what I though Jazz was supposed to sound like it really hits me as a boring caricature
I know this a close minded way to view it but to this day I have found one type of Jazz that is pretty alright an that's third stream which I guess is a marriage of Jazz and Classical? Anyways Mingus' The Black Saint and the SInner Lady and Davis' Sketches of Spain are the only Jazz albums I can enjoy.
You seem so much more enthusiastic about those genres/styles of music. Not complaining, it's just, like for instance when I wanted to start a discussion on how I felt MFT were a stronger record than A/B you didn't seem to care and answered "tope" or something in that vein.
What's the one album with just the guys face on the cover with a really brown colour scheme
I remember it reminding me of bitches brew but not much else about it
If you couldn't tell I no almost nothing about jazz
b-but so many notes! i-i'm not listening to a song called 'blues in f' right now!
honestly, don't think he has any feelings.
thoughts on davis? anyone heard the new bootleg series yet?
Glorious, and I've never even heard his solo albums. His solo on Coltrane's Favourite Things would be enough alone. Also glorious on Wayne Shorter albums I like more than the one upthread.
does coltrane sound like tal farlow? does stanley clarke sound like charley parker?, does django sound like kenny burrell or joe pass?
Notes.. The final fron tier.. These are the voye ages of the star shit composer prize. We seek to find new notes to impress the ladies wif, so far our dicks almost fall off... Le jaz et los soundtrax siend for dien berlieberzzz. Heil, papa smurfimirbamacullonTS.
wow, look at this literary auteur everyone. he's moved beyond the realm of musical notation into something even greater. we can only pray to be as informed as he someday.
Thanks for the compliments, man. I thought it was great. Again, thanks. I appreciate the graces you estow upon me. But all true credit goes to nature, who is god. Also, refrain from sarcasm, you will not find health from it. Just my opinion, do what you want with it.
And no, i'm not implying or insinuating i have any answers, 'answers'. But u seem to think judgement is a sane way of living, casting first stones. Och, uno wat, i won't change yor mind. Just stick wit insulting ppl.
What I love about Jazz is just how fucking much of it there is. Jazz of the 20th century was made by people who knew how to play their instruments and by lord they played. Any given Jazz artist has dozens of albums under there belt. I hate to be blunt with this comment but I do think jazz is a safe genre. It's mostly instrumental and there's really no wrong way to do it. Nothing wrong with that though I love the genre and the fact I will never stop discovering new favorites
All I'm saying is that improvisation is one of the most difficult things to do properly. I speak for myself when saying this: my old teacher gave me brief instruction in improvisation and it was a struggle to learn to make even simple lines that make musical sense.
You shouldn't diss it unless you can prove that it takes no talent.
I'm going to assume you really don't know what you're talking about.
Jazz is played from a lead sheet. Let's take a classic for example, like So What by miles davis. The chords are written out, but there is no rhythm. All the instruments improvise the rhythm. Then, there is a head which is the lead part. In this song, that is the part the bass pays at the beginning and end if the song. In between that, the solos are the leads. But like the chords that the players improvise the rhythm part on, the soloist improvises the lead.
Lol I don't have to assume that you don't know what you're talking about.
Holy shit a person who knows what they're talking about. Question: When you're learning a piece how do you go about learning the changes? I usually try and learn pieces by ear when learning rock tunes but have a hard time working out all the progressions by ear. Is that just something that comes with practice or should I be listening out for certain things?
If you do it I will also. I challenge everyone here to post their own jazz performances so we can see who is actually credible and who is just regurgitating words they've read on wiki.
That guy does NOT know what he's talking about.
>The chords are written out, but there is no rhythm. All the instruments improvise the rhythm.
You can get a fakebook which will have standards written out in leadsheet form but you will be much better off learning jazz standards by ear. Start with just the bass. Figure out the bass movement. Then figure out the chord qualities. Then the melody.
I'm not trying to me pretentious or an asshole, but the post you guys have been making about improvising are off base.
It depends. For chords, I usually try to find all the root notes. Then I pretty much guess until I find the quality. It's usually easily to tell if it's major or minor, and if it's rock I usually guess it's a power cord. I'm mostly and electric bassist and upright player though.
You know those lines going up and down the staff in between the notes? Those are called bar lines. They separate the music into measures to make it easier to read.
If you look at the very front of the piece there should be two numbers on top of each other that will explain to you how the rhythm of the measures works.
>You can get a fakebook which will have standards written out in leadsheet form
I might take a look at that for the sake of practicing. I think that knowing the chords and being able to hear them and play over them would probably be beneficial for my ear.
I've no problem learning rock tunes. Unless it's something really proggy. It's usually just root third fifth as you said but I've got a harder time hearing other qualities like 7ths and especially I find it harder in jazz where you don't get the chords spelled out for you.
Look at a lead sheet. As you can see, the lead part is written out, and the chords are on top of the measure. As far as how you play those chords in piano, bass or is up to you and the band. I tried not to be pretentious, but fuck it. You don't know what you're talking about. I've played in my unis jazz ensemble for last year.
Yeah, jazz chords are a lot of guess work. When you get to pieces with 7ths and flat fifths and other shit is hard to pick it up by ear. I've met people who can do it, but is guess work until you're on that level. At last I think it is.
Sorry, but I didn't think anyone would think that I didn't know what a time signature is. I'm talking about chords and people think I'm saying the band is making up whether or not the song is in 4/4 our 3/4. I clearly said rhythm, not time signature.
Haha I don't have my good keyboard set up right now so I'm just playing on my old electric piano from the 80's. It's missing a bunch of whatever kind of pads should be there to mute the clacking.
What's the point of tripping anyway.
>What's the point of tripping anyway.
Tripping helps your write the good shit, man. The goooooooood shit.
He made jazz threads feel like a kind of community. Plus it gave him a bit of credibility. People saw him posting and knew that he was knowledgeable and knew what he was talking about. I almost always checked out any of the albums or artists he posted that I didn't recognise.
that's a bold statement. are you saying john coltrane's tenor sax style sounds exactly like Coleman hawkins and that miles davis's trumpeting sounds exactly like that of Freddie Hubbard? because that is far from the truth.
Way to prove how ignorant you are, OP. You really had ought to refrain from referring to yourself as a fan of music if this is a sincerely held belief of yours. You might also want to rethink visiting /mu/ ever again.