ITT: Double OP, reviews, Nyx is well written, Foundation in Equestria, aka Encyclopedia Equestria, the Literary Losers' Lodge, bumps are banned, 2012 edge and letting our thread die.
See, I told you banning bumps was a bad idea.
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Who is the glorious bartard that writes it?
Yes, griffons are 100% slav jews
Remind me again why I shouldn't read it. Because I'm getting awfully tempted to get a longfic in before college kicks back up again.
The Griffinstone episode established they're incredibly greedy and not at all like the Klingon Empire.
That's one of my personal favorite things to do in my fics. Readers seem to really enjoy them, too.
No actually. I havent seen shit since the S4 finale
>who wouldn't even save you if you couldn't pay them first.
so theyre normal people then?
and nothing of value was lost. I think. I cant actually remember anything hes done.
Gotta stay logged in so you can see the wailing and gnashing of teeth of all those people who now realize the error of their ways.
or hes full of shit and will meekly be back in a week or two like all of the others tards who had a meltdown and sperged themselves
The stories here have already been deleted. This site runs off ad revenue. I'm not leaving my content up where they can continue milking it for clicks, no matter how much or how little they made.
Jesus, what's he so butthurt about?
>Remind me again why I shouldn't read it.
Its not a terrible fic, but its not a good one either
from the pastebin:
The Life and Times of a Winning Pony
Cloud kicker is a slut. Gets roped into a relationship, then continues to fuck anything with a vaj and a pulse. Everything she touches turns to shit and blows up in her face, yet there are no lasting repercussions to anything that she fucks up.
Both major canon characters manage to maintain their personas as established by canon.
Despite the content, this was well written and not painful to read.
It could have been worse. If this included clop it could easily be longer than DoaM.
It reads like a shitty self insert. CK is universally loved despite being a total fuck up and everything she touches turning into shit.
It spawned its own 'verse. Quite possibly the greatest sin a fic can commit.
As mentioned, its not the worst thing ever, and chengars writing style is actually fun to read.
That being said I'm not going to waste my time reading anything else from the winningverse.
if you can live with that, go for it
> But, after years of petty harassment, and the growing bias and poor treatment by the moderators, this site, for all its shiny bells and whistles, just isn't worth the hassle.
I'll be honest, I only know RC from a couple of inflammatory comments in a friend's fic and the time he implicitly condoned child abuse in a comment of one of my fics.
Not important. Something I'm writing currently. My main characters are in a bit of a pickle, and I'd like to have them handle it in a way they don't normally do, for the sake of variety and character development. It makes narrative sense for one of them to have some "berserker mode" (terrible terminology but still) that he can tap into with several hours of intensive meditation. Now, I'd planned for it to happen in a similar way from the beginning, but I feel like having it come out of a psychotic rage that takes a lot of time and effort to invoke is a better substitute to having him just be that good (granted, he is very good, but the nut he has to crack is an incredibly hard one).
I think it would be interesting, but if it's too clichéd, I'd like to know so I can come up with something else.
Yes I need to calmly meditate for several hours in order to become a homicidal psychopath
seems legit. cant you just feed him some meth or bath salts or anything else that makes more sense?
It has been well established that he has a lot of experience with the stuff of the outdoors. Having him be able to throw some local plants together to make a killing spree drug does sound feasible, but he does come from a very anti-drug cultural background that's obsessed with discipline, which is why I even considered intensive meditation as a possibility.
>anti-drug cultural background that's obsessed with discipline
doesnt fit with beserkerism. sure they were supposedly warrior shamans by some accounts, which would make drugging plausible, but they were also not exactly known for discipline which doesnt really fit in with what youre trying to portray
I think it's possible for a berserk state, being a result of effort from a disciplined mind, to be explained by a sort of self-hypnosis. But I'm starting to warm up to the idea of drugging despite his preference for staying straight-edge. Internal conflict isn't necessarily a bad thing, after all.
As a matter of fact, I happen to have already introduced a drug that can induce psychotic rage as a part of the worldbuilding, but the problem there is it's extremely, highly addictive, to the point where having him not become an addict after a sufficiently high dose to turn him berserk would be a strain on willing suspension of disbelief.
Quick question for you all. Is it okay for a small scene to be in the POV of a side character for the purpose of transitioning into another event? It's likely the story won't be returning to that character's POV and it would be a one time thing.
the idea that one must have a highly disciplined mind in dorer to become a frothing at the mouth lunatic is too dissonant for me. I think I can see where youre trying to go, but I simply cant accept it at face value
honestly it seems like the drugging route is likely the least ass-pulley method of doing your little berserker thing
ancient fanon/headcanon time.
Aside from the Klingon griffons, has anything else been destroyed or confirmed by canon?
>Cloudkicker- unabashed slut
>Berry Punch- raging alcoholic
>Blueblood- is an oddity. some folks keep him a show accurate twatwaffle for use as a minor villain, whereas most seem to make him a decent bro that uses the twatwaffle facade to keep the golddigging bitches away
>Derpy- clumsy (due to eye condition) but otherwise rather intelligent. (despite her original voice 'proving' she be 'tarded). also muffins!
>Dinky- a prodigy with twilight levels of intellect
>Time Turner- that goddamned dr whooves timelord bullshit
>Braeburn- raging homosexual
>Vinyl Scratch- wubs
>Octavia- high class socialite musician, usually with a British or Mid-Atlantic accent
>Gilda- usually the daughter of the emperor or some other high ranking griffon official
>Bon Bon- the "rouge changeling" angle's been gaining quite a bit of steam lately
>Soarin- goofy and carefree while also chasing that mare tail also pie addict
>Night Guard/batponies- obsessively loyal to Luna to the point of fanaticism
>griffons- Klingon Empire
>changelings- hive mind
>Dumbbell and/or Hoops - irredeemable assholes, bullies, and sometimes even rapists. Even if the fic is Post-Sonic Rainboom.
>Bon-Bon & Lyra- super ultra mega lesbians
>Dinky & Derpy- mother & daughter
>Scootaloo- homeless orphan
>Fancy Pants- a noble of some sort
>"Button Mash"- obsessed with vidya (due to being seen playing vidya on screen for 1/4 of a second)
>Salt- pony intoxicant
At the risk of being at all productive...
Foundation in Equestria
Luna and Celestia are dying (for whatever reason).
Twilight finds about and becomes desperate to help Equestria through the transition. The princesses have ruled for over 1000 years and their magic maintains a number of really important things (keeps the sun and moon moving, keeps the monsters bound in Tartarus, keeps the Everfree Forest locked up, this kind of thing). With them gone, she worries Equestria will tear itself apart.
Anyway, to get answers Twilight creates Magical!Psychohistory. Since Psychohistory doesn't work on a planetary scale, she does it by finally decoding Pinkie's Pinkie Sense. The result is that Twilight can now understand all the twitches, itches, flops and flips. She creates a magical instrument which looks like the Uffington White Horse and uses it to delve the possible paths of the future.
Using this, Twilight comes to a number of terrible conclusions.
If she doesn’t act, the fall Luna and Celestia will be apocalyptic. The released monsters and nature will be a near extinction level event. It will be tens of thousands of years before Equestria can rise again.
However, if she acts properly, she can reduce this to a mere 500 years.
Towards this end, Twilight begins organizing Eqeustria. She creates the Encyclopedia Foundation and sets up in the harsh hills north of the Crystal Empire. Their task, officially, to gather all the knowledge of Equestria together in one place to protect and preserve it, but in fact they are to become the seed for the new Equestria.
Thanks to the ponies she sends and their horde of knowable, they become masters of magic and science.
She leaves with them the Element of Magic, imprinted with parts of her thoughts and mind. During times of great crisis, the lead of the Foundation can put on the crown and Twilight can speak through that pony. (This is of course the MLP version of a Seldon Crisis).
She also creates a secret, second Foundation in Canterlot itself. This she tasks with studying the Weirding Way, the core of which is her Magical!Psychohistory, but also branches out into other weird areas of magical and natural philosophy (an unsettling number of which are derived from Pinkie). Their job is to refine to Psychohistoric Timeline and ensure it stays on track.
She also sets things up so the Equestria successor states will fracture and unify in ways best suited her plan. Perhaps the most important part of this is setting up a unicorn rump state around Canterlot itself, charged with moving the sun and the moon.
Twilight and her friends don't survive to see this new world. Instead, Twilight leads them into Tartarus, where they succeed at stopping the realise of the monster's there, at the cost of their own lives.
Moving on from setup… The Mule is of course a mule, probably a descendant of Cranky Doodle Donkey who even in death is taking none of Pinkie's nonsense and is so outside of Magical!Psychohistory.
Sun Tzu is about war you idiot. Your guy is not "feigning" disorder, he is going in a totally uncontrolled fury.
This is an even worse allusion than the guy who used Tesla to tell me general relativity was fake.
The thing about The Art of War is it can be interpreted in different ways for different purposes. It's not uncommon for this book's lessons to be applied to things completely unrelated to war/military matters. Hell, you could even apply it to arguing on 4chan if you wanted to for some magical reason.
That said, the point I'm trying to make here is it's not entirely unbelievable for someone to go into self-induced blind fury through the power of his own mind if he truly has that much discipline and willpower. In fact, considering this is a setting where alicorn god-queens move the sun and the moon and where demons from hell can occasionally sneak into the "normal" realm, that might actually be one of the more mundane things that could happen.
They're cheap and greedy. You could just as well call the Scots.
It depends no how you pull it off. Give me context, m8.
Am I supposed to take the scene seriously? Because then I wouldn't do that. It isn't only clichéd, it's also kind of nonsensical.
>art of war
>to justify berserker rage
You're drowning in stupid here. First of all, not all interpretations are as valid. This counts for everything.
Secondly, you can't justify one thing by the fact that something completely unrelated exists. There's no logic behind your reasoning.
>not all interpretations are as valid.
True, but consider if it was just *acting* really angry. He would have to know exactly what behaviours to exhibit and what expressions to make to be believable, and he would have to have the self-control needed to not break character. It does, in a sense, require order in the mind.
>Secondly, you can't justify one thing by the fact that something completely unrelated exists
Given we're talking about how a fanciful thing can exist and can be believed, bringing up fanciful elements in canon to show that it can is completely on the table.
>consider the fact if it was just acting really angry
That's not berserk mode then. Berserk is really true uncontrolled anger, while your character is just faking.
Look. I'm writing a fic about a mass surveillance program covering all of Equestria, with a fancy secret agency to monitor every single pony's behavior. That's fanciful a lot, and I still won't bring in some Sun Tzu to justify why it can exist.
Maybe some other philosoph who talks about these matters, but not Sun Tzu. Why? Because he makes no fucking sense in this context.
That's like if I told you they said citations were dumb in an edgy teleseries for teens and used it to discredit you. You'd be angry, right? Well why? You did the same thing, applying a citation about army level tactics to a guy going in Hulk mode.
Jesus, I don't know why this discussion turned into such a mess.
If you really want him to meditate his way into an unstoppable rage, have him do like those Buddhist monks, but instead of meditating to change his skin temperature, he uses it to increase heart rate, adrenaline, endorphins (reduce pain), whatever. You don't have to explain it that way if it doesn't fit your tech level (I wouldn't expect canon ponies to know what adrenaline is) but you should be able to come up with something that gives the reader the right idea.
>That's not berserk mode then.
I was using that as an example to illustrate my point, the point being that a lesson can be applied to a wide variety of things. I wasn't saying that's what he was actually doing, I was using it as a hypothetical scenario to illustrate a point. Sincere question: do you have some variation of autism? Because that would explain why you seem to be using such a rigid, overly specific, face-value line of thinking.
>You did the same thing, applying a citation about army level tactics to a guy going in Hulk mode.
Actually, a paraphrasing; I'm not trying to claim authority by invoking Sun Tzu. A citation is completely different. I'm starting to doubt your intelligence here.
That's exactly the way I had in mind when I brought it up.
>True, but consider if it was just *acting* really angry.
Then you're talking about something else.
>bringing up fanciful elements in canon to show that it can is completely on the table
Only if you're viewing the elements isolated, which is pointless. Consider this:
The Sun is artificially moved <- Because Celestia moves it <- Because Celestia has a talent for the type of magic needed to move the Sun <- Because magic exists in the setting. It's not merely "since the Sun moves, everything is allowed". Everything you come up with has to be based in something, and the more fanciful your inclusion is, the better that thing has to be justified and connected to more believable stuff. This is basic.
>I'm not invoking authority
Then why should we care if Sun Tzu isn't an authority in the matter? I could invoke a bum on the street saying your point doesn't make sense and he'd be at the same level as Sun Tzu here.
Unless your citation is done in context and with someone with authority in the matter, it won't make sense.
Not really. There's such a thing as infinite regress.
Every setting has some basic truths that the rest of the setting is built upon. In Equestria, the existence of magic is one of these axiomatic principles, just like the existence of gravity and light. They're the basic terms we need to accept to further look into a setting. They work because they're more intuitively believable than the stranger points of any given setting. We accept the existence of gravity and light easily, because we are familiar with them. The concept of magic is not real, but so culturally familiar to us that most people find it readily believable. Hence the difference between "A hose moves the Sun" and "Magic exists, and this magic allows a horse to move the Sun".
Besides, I specified that it was everything YOU came up with, didn't I? All the things you as a writer introduce into an already established setting will
with very rare possible exceptionsbe based in the basic axiomatic principles of the setting, which are things you haven't created.
I only brought up that Sun Tzu said it because I thought it'd be interesting to people unfamiliar with Sun Tzu.
The logic in your example is so broken though.
>Because Celestia has a talent for the type of magic needed to move the Sun <- Because magic exists in the setting
Doesn't logically follow because magic in general fantasy settings doesn't generally give people such specific talents, and there's no proof that it's the driving force behind such talents in the mlp universe.
>Because Celestia moves it <- Because Celestia has a talent for the type of magic needed to move the Sun
Doesn't logically follow because Celestia can choose not to move the sun despite having a talent for it; the sun was moved before she was even around to do that.
I'm honestly done trying to justify myself to pseudo-intellectual spergs, so let's just deal with your weak grasp on logic here.
> I thought it'd be interesting to people unfamiliar with Sun Tzu.
You've got a serious problem if you're unfamiliar with this guy. If all you want to is to bring up an "unknown" philosopher, you could have brought up one who has something to do with your subject.
>All that text at the end
>Fuck established canons
>You're all wrong and I'm right
So, you've gone to denying the basic principle of Celestia being the sun-princess just to allow your character to become an OP piece of shit?
>Obama is ruling the USA --> Because he has a the ability to do so
Doesn't logically follow cause Obama could choose not to rule the country despite having a talent for it. The country was ruled before he was even around to do that.
>The logic in your example is so broken though.
That may be, but it doesn't really matter as long as you understand the concept I was trying to communicate. Besides, we're working with writing here. The goal isn't to use formal logic to establish necessary truth, it's to craft a believable narrative, which are different processes.
>I'm honestly done trying to justify myself to pseudo-intellectual spergs
No need to get mad, just because I think your ideas are boring.
He's not saying that "pony magic can move the sun" logically follows from "ponies have magic". But in a story where it's already been established that ponies have magic and can use it to move things, you won't break suspension of disbelief if you start writing about very powerful pony magic moving the sun.
Now, if you want to have any old average unicorn able to move it, or maybe have pegasi able to fly up and push it around with their hooves, you'll need some more steps in the justification or else readers will be confused.
I think I've had enough to last this year already...
Some day, some fucking day, I'll write that BOATMURDERED crossover I've had kicking around my head for like a year now.
Then again I have seven novells to write, and that's without counting the horse words.
>Extracts of the adrenal gland were first obtained by Polish physiologist Napoleon Cybulski in 1895. These extracts, which he called nadnerczyna, contained adrenaline and other catecholamines.
Given when it was discovered, and depending on how you interpret Equestria's current technological advancement, ponies may or may not have the requisite knowledge of biology.
>non horse words related blog shit
WHO DEY THINK GONNA BEAT THEM BENGALS?
Bleeding stories will begin tomorrow. Will also try to focus on Siren and Delicate.
I need a story that's depressing. Not too long, but at least over 3,000 words. I have an idea for a joke.
>adrenaline was discovered by a Polish scientist
Kurwa, that's my man
And I'd say they're pretty advanced, at least in some fields, considering all the electronic equipment we've seen in the show.
Then again, ponies may not be so keen on fucking around with another pony's body.
My point there was that canon is pretty inconsistent in how it presents pony technology. For the most part it's steam power and mechanical, and then out of nowhere you've got hydroelectric dams, EKGs, and modern-day arcade machines.
>what's he so butthurt about?
There was that one attack fic where "Checkered Reality" does foalcon with Nyx. That was over a year ago, though.
It was the closest I've come to reporting a fic for violating site rules.
It does sound cliche. Not to mention implausible.
>in a bit of a pickle
Why not just use the situation they're in to think of a solution? There's all sorts of environmental things (as in, objects or terrain) they could use--not to mention the fact you have flying horses and unicorns to play around with.
>make a killing spree drug
The idea that someone could just throw together a few plants and bam, homicidal maniac drug, has a lot of connotations behind it (government regulation, crime/military applications) that would likely greatly impact the world the story's taking place in.
>him not become an addict
So have him become an addict. Congratulations, you just added a 20,000 word character arc to your fic while also showing that desperate actions in the story have consequences.
I don't see an issue with it.
>Vinyl and Octavia are basically their fanfic personas
>Gilda appears to be unrelated to any griffon government official
>Scootaloo does have a home
>That freedom was unlike anything I've ever felt! The speed, the adrenaline, the wind in my mane... I liked it... a lot!
Canon says they know about it.
It's actually pretty consistent. First modern EKG was 1901, and the first hydroelectric dam was 1882. The arcade wasn't til 1971, but that was a song and you can debate the canon status of songs.
>The arcade wasn't til 1971, but that was a song and you can debate the canon status of songs.
Or you could argue that it was a large version of this with a sound system.
>the first hydroelectric dam was 1882
Yeah, and it looked like this, not 80 feet high and made of solid concrete.
>The arcade wasn't til 1971, but that was a song and you can debate the canon status of songs.
When was the fully-automated bowling alley first established? I don't think you can debate the canon of that one. Same for Vinyl Scratch's hi-tech sound system.
Seriously, pony tech levels relative to humans are wildly inconsistent, and from a meta perspective, intentionally so.
How does Fimfiction's view counter work? I mean, it says a little over 200 at the top right of my story, but when I hover over it it says I have almost 900. What's up with that?
Again, we had this baby in 1915.
And these babies too.
All of those were build before or during WW1.
well its no worse than endless bumps, counting backwards from 10 or discussing the technological development of a fantasy race that hasnt seen at least one major war per decade since the dawn of time
most advances in human technology have come during times of conflict. lack of geopolitical conflict would explain differing rates of technological growth compared to our own
damn you for your premature ebumpulation while I was busy typing
>most advances in human technology have come during times of conflict. lack of geopolitical conflict would explain differing rates of technological growth compared to our own
Not to mention a diferent species with a diferent body shape in a wildly diferent geopolitical space (How many sapient species are there in mlp, ten or twelve?) with wildly diferent laws of physics (Magic, spiders are clever enough to make reverences, various realms) and wildly diferent abilities (The supposedlsy strongest of their kinds can fly over the barrier of sound without turning into a bloody mess, lift several tons, and I dunno cross all of Equestria in like ten minutes i guess) and in general a really, really diferent situation.
Stop trying to equate human technologic development to pony's. Please.
However long ago the reign of Discord was, Equestria was a far more chaotic, dangerous place.
Ponies had to do something to bring their environment under their control. But they rely more on personal abilities, including magic, or superhuman strength, because they actually have them.
Headcanon is they also borrow technology from other dimensions, which is why they have all kinds of terrestrial style technology despite not doing anything obvious to develop any of it.
They would have had conflicts earlier in their history, though, which may be when they developed the technology they have as well as refining their magical skills.
Just flipped through 5 pages of top-rated non-crossover scifi. All the stuff on there that I've read and know is good, was started (and I had read it) before the scifi tag was added. But I did find a few that look good that I haven't read yet.
Halp how do write Spike good.
/paj/ thread needs help here. We fucked up and made him a gun toting anon-stand in early on, broke that whole thing, but now don't know how to write him as a decent character anymore.
Spike isn't that hard to write, just don't ask the show writers.
He's more mature than he lets on, or should be. Sarcastic, snarky especially with Twilight when they have a chance to play off one another. I prefer to write him as annoyed when others just assume he's a little kid simply because he's a 'baby' dragon. Likely very knowledgeable about magic while not being to do it himself. Likes pranks, generally carefree when not put on the spot.
His conflicts are generally stemming from the contrast of his seeming young age and occasional bouts of immaturity and wanting to be seen as just as adult as the rest of the main cast. There are a lot of in-canon ways to play with this. One that I am surprised isn't used more is the idea that dragons grow with their hoard. Spike may gather up a small hoard in order to make himself grow, sacrificing his apparent childhood as a way to be more useful, or to catch Rarity's attention.
Georg is a pretty good author. I'm rereading The Travelling Tutor and the Librarian, and I'm finding it a really well-paced romance, with the characters slowly falling in love and the story covering the growth/development of the romantic relationship rather than just the beginning of it.
Depending on the premise, I suppose a few ways. I guess I'd go with being more reluctant in direct conflict unless sufficiently motivated. Protecting his friends and those he cares about are the big ones.
If he's got a reason to go all out, he will. He's not edgy at all, the show seems to show he's pure-hearted in a naive sort of way. So basically the opposite of edge, which is better anyway.
I've been completely rewriting the 1st chapter seeing how shitty the original looked, and I really can't get into thinking whatever I'm writing is decent.
Unedited version, s are normal.
1936. A little late, but not too terrible.
Difficult to pinpoint. I'm getting circa 1960. Pretty late.
1925. Not too bad.
Technically 1910, but the kind she was wearing would trace back to 1958. Also late.
It's also notable that they seem to be pretty advanced electronically (Twi's basement computer, the headphones, possilby the arcade), but are still in the 1890s with most of everything else.
>call it "removing kebab"
Sounds a bit too /pol/ memey.
The Paraspr--I mean Glory Be (when did he change his screenname?) has Splinterwood (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/212694/splinterwood), a literal "ponies are nazis" fic with the Changeling Question getting its final solution.
I read it's only chapter so far and opted out due to how blunt the nazi expy stuff was. It'd be much cooler if it did things more subtlety and wasn't so overt--right down to Twi wearing an SA uniform in the cover art.
I have Spark Visions of Twilight (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/305096/spark-visions-of-twilight) on my RL but it's become one of those "oneshots turned multichapter" and those don't have great track records.
Make him the straight guy. Drop all the /k/ and "anon self insert" shit. Add boyhood crush on Rarity. And top it off with some little sister/mother stuff with Twilight.
If you're trapped in a clusterfuck you either reboot and retcon, or you have him cross a line (injuring/killing Rarity/Tw/Celestia, destroying Ponyville, etc.) that causes self reflection and a resolve to change. Kinda cliche, which is why the reboot's really the best option.
Added some comments. A couple of the sentences seemed a little off, but otherwise it had a nice SoL feel while segueing into the opening mystery.
Why, to find out, you only need to take a look at his blog posts where he chronicled the injustices he suffered at the hands of the mods, and which contain his further explanations and arguments in the comments--
oh wait, he just went and deleted all 170 of his blog posts as well.
I really like the guy, but mass deletion just borders on the other side of the childish.
I'll just leave this here in case anyone hasn't read it.
Surprisingly funny and well written. Feels like a bunch of Dan Vs episodes, though it starts to go down the shitter in the later arcs.
Yes, I spent most of the fic deciding if it was actually decent enough to compare to real literatute. After reading 52 chapters of the shit, and a healthy purge via Hemingway, I can say it's definitely "upper tier young adult novel if you removed the sex".
Its average by horsewords standards. By HiE standards its practically top tier.
That's not to say its a great piece of fiction, but rather that everything similar is a giant steaming pile of faeces
I'm actually kind of glad people use their Pony Creator OCs as profile images, because it means I'm never going to read anything they publish.
>people use their Pony Creator OCs as profile images
Why do people do this? There is no practical reason for it at all. They're just ugly even if you know how to make a good-looking OC, it's not unique because a whole bunch of people do it, it obviously has a stigma attached to it since people like to write their pony/fur-sonas in shitty self-appeal fics. Even if you are a complete hack who writes that kind of thing, you're only shooting yourself in the foot by doing this. Same with making the name of your Mary Sue the same as your username. You'd think they'd have caught on by now.
>hating on OCs
Original Character Cronut Iron
But honestly, I think this works great. It's like being able to tell which animals are poisonous because of their strong colours. It's nature's warning sign.
People are never going to catch on, or stop doing it, because it's so low-effort, so cheap and easy, and so prevalent that it's unavoidable these days.
>tfw I remember my early fandom OC
Did you know that the guy who makes the generator make cash off it now? It's out for Android for 1$, and people have bought it 10 000 - 50 000 times by now.
I'm not hating on OC's. In fact I'm writing an AU fic where canon characters are actually a rarity. But the least you can do is pay a budding furry artist on DeviantArt a pittance or rip something from Derpibooru.
Georg is actually a pretty good writer. The Travelling Tutor series handles romance really well, in a slow and believable fashion, and the Nocturne Saga has some interesting worldbuilding. And most of what he's written is pretty good comedy.
He's definitely in the top 5% of writers on the site.
with a name like that I can only assume hes some kind of filthy foreigner who only has a weak grasp on the english language. So I fully expect that his writing is going to be some mangled, andre tier, google translated clusterfuck
>Did you know that the guy who makes the generator make cash off it now? It's out for Android for 1$, and people have bought it 10 000 - 50 000 times by now.
I want to cash in on autism too. who wants to help make a knockoff pony creator in which the abominations face to the right?
>non horse words related Let's Play bullshit
POSTAL 2 Paradise Lost. It's pretty funny actually.
I think that El Niño shit is happening. It's loud as fuck and I can't record shit.
Aw well, I did manage to get another bleedin story done.
Something that hasn't been told already:
Spike is Twilight's anchor, her confidant. When Twilight is depressed or feels betrayed, she goes to him nine out of ten times. This is why he is so mature-- he has grown used to always being there for Twilight, no mater what, like she is for him. They are both childish in some ways, but neither in the same as the other-- their childish and mature facets are completely diferent, because they compliment each other that much.
One could argue that Twilight feels more love for Spike than she does for Shining, even.
you must not read much fanfiction
the only person in this world with any interest in bleedinfics is bleedin. because only bleedin thinks that bleedinfics arent a complete waste of time, space and pixels, bleedin.
And these are just the last three stories you've published.
>I think that El Niño shit is happening
Just wait, Trump will solve it. With a wall.
That doesn't make it any better. Getting my arm cut off is probably worse than losing just the hand, but the first doesn't make the second any less shit.
But one quality (in a negative sense that is), I find in Bleedin's work is that it just leaves me with nothing. I used to do riffs, I host awful movie nights for my chums, and I do seek out awful media because I usually think it's fucking funny. There's several stories out there that might be worse than what Bleedin writes, but at least they leave me with unintended amusement if nothing else. Bleedin, in the few stories I've read, actually fails in making his stories even accidentally funny or meaningful. They're just a waste of time to read.
Lol, if you say so. He read the first book, even 20.5, and his only comment was 'I think this was written by a fat bull dyke.'
I loved my dad that day.
He cant technology and doesnt TV. I dont live at home so I cant show him it.
I want to show him something that is not shit, but idk what.
>I loved my dad that day.
How can you not love a man whose wit is as sharp as your dad's?
Guess I might be too late posting this but oh well.
Stardust is reasonable. Sunflower is not written that well IMO.
If he likes LOTR you could give him Dangerous Business.
If he likes harder sci-fi you can do DOWAS (though the story there isn't complete, the sequel is still ongoing).
Pirene is pretty good but maybe a little more like "young adult" fiction than anything else.
Harmony Theory is good on the action but also unfinished.
You can basically give him anything on the Adventure and Sci-Fi categories on the starter kit (http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png), though Friendship is Optimal and Transistance are more SoL-scifi than adventure-scifi. I'd also add The Wind Thief, which is CiG's Skyrim crossover.
Whats this short for?
I gave him the following.
Second half of Foe
Stardust + sequel
I havent finished this myself but the first few chapters have been good. I know it has bad a bad rep
Of lilies and chestnuts
Daring do and the jungle of terrors
past sins ^:)
In that order.
We shall see what he thinks.
I havent finished this myself but the first few chapters have been good. I know it has bad a bad rep
NO NO NO NO NO
IT HAS A BAD REP BECAUSE IT GOES TO ABSOLUTE SHIT AFTER CHAPTER 30
could get him to read the chase.
I mean hes goading his father into reading autism wordified. So this is either a very roundabout way of coming out of the closet, or hes trying to prove hes an autist. The end goal, I'm assuming, is to ensure that his father never speaks to him again.
The chase would be perfect for that
Oh, I thought you meant "frush" as in "the frog of a horse's foot." Which is the definition Webster's gives for it. I've never heard of "frushing" and have no idea what it sounds like and given Webster's definition, it might not be a good idea to use it as a descriptive word.
Noticeably, apparently, obviously, glaringly, plainly, bluntly, arrantly.
I'd guess weekdays during the morning/early afternoon would be pretty bad due to school/work.
Saturday mornings would probably be good, so long as it's not a day when a new episode airs.
A combination of bad fanfics + constantly posting in the thread and yet not taking any of the advice that's given. Eventually, it turned hostile.
For the fiftieth time, he attempts to write about incredibly serious topics that would be difficult for even experienced writers to tackle. He doesn't have a good grasp of characterization due to never writing a story where the canon ponies would act normal, so his serious stories have bad characterization. Couple this with the focus on oneshots, even when many of these plots would require quite a bit more work in order to make sense, and you have bad fanfics.
He needs to focus on oneshot comedies and SoL and rewatch the show to get an understanding of good characterization and practice writing before he should write more serious plots.
>tfw there will never be a good multi-chapter with this premise
Storm (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/150/storm) got me addicted and now I can't get my fix.
>all those spikes
Wouldn't that act like a viking horn helmet and just be something easy to grab onto and yank during a fight?
oh god this is terrible. Its like staying sane fucked waiwai and the resulting rape baby was infected by 400% more cawadoody.
and I only made it about 4 paragraphs into the first chapter
Gentlemanverse uses "tiercel" for males but I forget what it uses for females.
IRL, "tiercel" is a male falcon. So I looked up the name for female falcons:
>The female peregrine falcon is properly called a falcon, and the male—which, in common with most species of raptors, is smaller than the female—is known as a tiercel.
So probably not that helpful for you
>The female peregrine falcon is properly called a falcon, and the male—which, in common with most species of raptors, is smaller than the female—is known as a tiercel.
griffon porn attached. this is how gilda was made, which explains so much abpout her
Not really. There's a tradition for considering wingless griffons to be male, and those are called keythongs or alces, though it's not a universal tradition. There doesn't seem to be any proper name for females. Furthermore, there's no name for specifically female eagles, and lioness/griffoness might sound awkward, though you could use it.
Or you could just call her a hen.
That sounds absolutely autistic.
You can't halfsword a blade that's attached to an enemy's armor, especially if it's this short.
Actually Project Horizons has over 1.7 million words and Somber is just too lazy to upload, but yeah, the Chase is a bit longer.
Hey man, I don't know what kinda stories you fags are reading. Also, you can with a strong enough grip. An actual technique in armored sword fighting is grabbing your opponents blade and fucking stabbing them, you quadruple aqua niggrr.
You can still grab on to it or hit/hook it with something. Large spikes or blades on armour is usually a sign of horrible design.
To be fair, halfswording has nothing to do with grabbing anything that isn't your own sword. You're applying terms that aren't even really related.
>You can still grab on to it
And cut yourself.
And do nothing.
>/hook it with something
What do you mean?
Not to mention the character in question is actually a berserker who can come back to life even after being disintegrated.
I'm sure wrapping a metal fucking hook around some warlord's pointy armor decoration in hopes that it won't slide off is much more effective than just hooking him straight in his face or doing literally anything else instead
I recall that discussion and applaud your reference, but can't help but wonder in what way that particular idea you have mentioned related in any way to the works of Somber, the author of Project Horizons.
>And cut yourself.
That's not a given. You're not going to cut yourself merely by holding a blade. You can, in fact, hold it in a pretty tight grip without drawing blood. If you're wearing gloves or gauntlets, it's even easier.
Blades do not cut just because they're touching your skin, they cut when force is applied, specifically along the way you're cutting. You can test this by going into your kitchen right now, finding your sharpest knife, and holding onto just the blade. Don't be afraid to hold a tight grip. The only way that's going to really cut you is if you yank/thrust with the handle, and apply force along the surface of the cut.
Even if you cut yourself, it might in a life and death situation be preferable to cut your hands and win than the alternative.
And here I was hoping I was going to get through this without mentioning halfswording, but it's already been mentioned, and it's a decent example.
This picture is from the Codex Wallerstein, which is made up of 15th-century Fechtbücher, essentially medieval German martial arts manuals. Notice how they're both holding on to the blade? There's nothing inherently dangerous about holding one hand on your own blade, it was in fact a well know way to fight, and if you're grappling with a single opponent you can grab onto his sword to prevent him from using it.
Obviously, ponies won't be able to do this, but creatures like Griffons easily could.
This guy is holding on to a sharp sword with bare hands:
>And do nothing.
I'm going to put this in very easy terms, Anon. If you're wearing a helmet with a 20 cm blade on your forehead, that's a huge vulnerability. If, for example, I swing a sword and miss your head, but hit the blade, you're still going to have your head yanked to the side by the full impact of that strike, where any normal helmet would have been just fine. And if I strike from left to right and hit the side of the blade, my sword may slide down and end up in the corner between the helmet proper and the blade, meaning that none of the energy of that blow is going to be lost by my blade "deflecting" off your helmet and sliding to the side. It's a terrible, terrible design.
>What do you mean?
Hooks are common weapons, especially as polearms. Most people don't know this, because movies don't think polearms and hooks are sexy, but that's the truth of the matter. If you're hit by any kind of bill hook that catches the blade on your forhead, then that person is able to significantly impair your movement. But since the blade is so prominent, you can hook it in a large manner of ways with many different weapons.
>Not to mention the character bla bla bla bla bla
I don't care. I really don't. All I'm saying is that this is an absolutely retarded armour design. And that's fine, it's okay to be stupid. If you're doing stylized high fantasy, sword & sorcery pulp, or any kind of setting where exaggeration and impractical designs are the norm, it's okay to have them. But you need to be aware that there's a difference between what's actually good, and what's appropriate in a stylized setting. And you really shouldn't believe that this thing is actually good, when it's in fact dreadful.
Armour is (nearly) always sexy, functional or not.
That one in particular is the field armour of Henry VIII
which might explain the size, but it's believed to have seen some use in siege of Boulogne, where Henry was personally present. But that's rather gentle use, as far as armour goes.
Here's an Italian 16th-century armour. Henry's armour was also from Italy, but the exact origin is unknown.
>I don't care. I really don't. All I'm saying is that this is an absolutely retarded armour design. And that's fine, it's okay to be stupid. If you're doing stylized high fantasy, sword & sorcery pulp, or any kind of setting where exaggeration and impractical designs are the norm, it's okay to have them.
It's almost like she's a raider warlord, who are prominent for wearing overstylized, customized armour designed to intimidate opponents.
Didn't they already use chainmail under the armor in that time, even if the armor was plate?
And I'll have to disagree to some extent. Morrowind's armor, for example, is extremely sexy even when it isn't that functional, but Oblivion has blandish armor and Skyrim just took the edge up to a hundred and eleven and ruined it all.
Will have to agree with this. Blackbeard would make powder charges explode in his fucking beard to intimidate people, for god's sake.
Fine. If you don't want to have things explained to you, I can't make you.
And that's fine. It really is. I have no issues with some pony in some FoE spinoff using stylized armour.
But it seemed like this Anon truly believed that having a big blade on your helmet is actually a good idea, and that's what I was trying to disprove with my posts.
I mean, I think the parade armour of Ferdinand II is a thing of beauty, and I'd love to see armour like this in some settings, but I won't even try to argue that that the thing on his burgonet is practical. I was just trying to clear up some apparent misconceptions.
Always is a bad word to use when approaching history. But yes, you would generally see mail used in combination with the iconic suit of armour. Though what I've posted in this thread is so late armour that the use of mail was in significant decline by this period in time. Here's a reconstruction of a Yorkish suit of armour from 1485, the earliest I've posted so far. You'd still see lots of mail in eastern Europe until the 17th century.
If only you knew how big a TES fan I am, Anon.
That said, I don't see how you're disagreeing with me.
>But it seemed like this Anon truly believed that having a big blade on your helmet is actually a good idea
No I didn't, I did not say anything like that. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm >>26028006
>but I won't even try to argue that that the thing on his burgonet is practical
Maybe because the purpose of parade armour is to look good and not be practical. Nobody would argue it's practical.
Wonderful discussion! It's not like we're writing about a world where the king species doesn't have any kind of hands or fingers, right?
I've read all of it, trust me. None of the counter techniques mentioned is applicable to ponies, and the only good point is that the edges on the armor would hook on weapon that hit it.
That said, any portruding edge on armor is mostly useless and dumb.
>No I didn't
I know, but I was replying to >>26027245
That's also why I said "this Anon", and not "you".
>Nobody would argue it's practical.
You missed my point, but fair enough. I might have worded it poorly.
The point was that I don't think that things have to be practical to be in a setting, or that you can have characters or cultures using fanciful arms and armour. In fact, that's often cool as shit. Especially so in a setting where it's going to be harder to draw on human parallels due to differences in physical shape. Again, I just wanted to show why having that cool blade on your forehead isn't actually a good idea.
Maybe you could use that if you ever write about anyone wearing armour. Have some noble in overly ornate and impractical armour find out that he's not actually as safe as he thought he was.
I think you misunderstood me. Pic related.
If a pony can use a spear, it can use a hook. But then again it's sort of stupid that they use spears in the first place. I think you just have to determine some level of proficiency with hooves that you think is reasonable, and try to be consistent with that when you're writing.
This is what we get for trying to make something serious out of a source that doesn't try to be.
As always, the best advice when it comes to writing ponies fighting is always "Don't".
>Use a hook
A spear, or ideally a sword, can already grapple on the edges and topple the armor, leading possibly to pieces falling, or even worse, injuries due to the force involved.
Not to mention the numerous holes in the armor, leaving critical parts such as the legs, neck and face exposed.
Because hooks are cool.
Also they're historically very common.
And who knows, maybe they seem exotic and new to some readers. If some foreign ruler visits Equestria, it might be nice to describe his bodyguard as having some sort of hooked bill and armour inspired by Persian barding. It's always nice to "visually" set things apart, especially if you really want to enforce the feeling that these guys are strangers.
Swords and spears don't grapple as well as hooks. Plus, why would a horse have a sword? Seeing it in a story is a instant turnoff, especially if he's holding it in his hooves.
Maybe. But ponies have always seemed kind of clumsy to me, at least in the way they're built. I guess they could kick well with their hindlegs, which would make fighting into some kind of strange dance where they have their backs turned to each other.
Or else it's some kind of wrestling with their small front hooves.
Awkward pony fighting seems like it would be most at home in a comedy, if you could make that work in a non-visual way.
>But ponies have always seemed kind of clumsy to me, at least in the way they're built.
It's just an example off the top of my head, but ponies are agile enough for some cool fighting.
But, at least in that first video, Octavia is essentially moving like a human. Any time Octavia fights in that video, she's on her hind legs moving like some human martial arts character. There's nothing "pony" about what she's doing, which is bad when you're writing about ponies.
When they actually fight in the show, there's some hindleg standing, but there's also times when they're on all fours.
It's also very goofy, but that's the point. I really can't take pony fights seriously.
I guess you could do unarmed fighting, I'm just not not a huge fan of the way it's done in those videos. But I guess the most important thing is just to find something that works in the story you're telling and staying consistent to that.
I was mostly pointing out the very beginning, but you can't say that the ponies in the show haven't proven they can support themselves on their hind hooves. (see: the dancer's at Coloratura's concert)
And, like I said, it's just the first example I could think of that shows how agile their bodies can be. I think things like bar fights can be done easily, but a real battle between earth ponies would look fucking ridiculous.
I think Mythril retconned a character's name, but it still says "Juan the Janitor" in the Social Link Status at the end of every chapter. Why is this allowed?
>Juan the Janitor
Was the name supposed to alliterate? Does he not know how alliteration works? Or does he think Juan is pronounced "Jew-ann"? Or better yet, that "janitor" is pronounced "wan-it-or"?
Forgive my autism, but alliterative failures trigger the shit out of me.
You know, I've never really thought about it. I think he wanted "Juan the Janitor" to sound off and not fit in with the rest of the character names (because he's this mysterious guy that appears out of nowhere and seems to know everything that's going on), so it's possible he just didn't know how to pronounce Juan.
You mean Marexican, right?
Mythril's obsessed with horse puns.
Can't make a decent fic because my brain is incapable of letting me do it.
Can't make a whatever fic because it turns out into shit or a crackfic. This is causing me not to write at all, since I'm stuck.
Any solution for this?
>Can't make a decent fic because my brain is incapable of letting me do it.
The only way of breaking your limitations is powering through them. Keep at it, keep writing, keep editing, keep rewriting and you're bound to improve.
lol wut. Saw this mentioned in the
It's simultaneously doing a scifi HiE thing, and shipping Vinyl Scratch with Flash fucking Sentry of all ponies. wtf.
Canonwise? No. Obscure fantasy novel-wise? Probably.
They're half lion, so you could go the cat route and call her a "griffoness."
"Hen" sounds like shit and is also a term used to describe a naggy housewife.
So what you're saying is, he's literally
>And cut yourself.
>what is chainmail
>what is a piece of metal glued to a horseshoe
>what is a hook
>what is a whip/chain
There's also the fact that hoofs are basically huge, tough toenails specifically designed for wear and tear.
>even after being disintegrated
I keep forgetting how absurdly bad PH is. Thank you for reminding me.
>he's holding the sword backwards and hitting the guy with the handle
I really want to know what kind of strategic benefit that has.
It's either that or people saying "bump" in various ways.
Come up with an idea and then let it fester in your head for a while. Run through the scenario, characters, possible scenes, etc. Essentially, build it up until you really want to write it.
Wait, why are people saying you can grab swords with hoofs? That's ridiculous. Gluing a sword to a horseshoe is even more ridiculous. The only ponies who should be able to use swords at all should be unicorns. Earth pones should just have horseshoes specialized for warfare.
Well Fallout: Equestria does have guns that are strapped to a pony's sides by a harness and fired with a mouth-operated trigger. I don't know how these things are supposed to be reloaded after a magazine or belt has been expended, and I certainly don't see how they're supposed to be aimed with any effectiveness, but at least there's some thought behind it.
>I really want to know what kind of strategic benefit that has.
It essentially makes your sword into a makeshift hammer. The idea is that you're not going to get anywhere by striking with the blade, as any decent suit of armour will protect the wearer rather well against that. So instead you pummel your opponent with the pommel or the crossguard, which could be rather heavy, so that you can actually hurt your enemy. The general idea is then that you'd be able to hit your enemy to stagger him, and then grapple and likely kill him on the ground.
That's the idea, anyway. It's a bit difficult to be absolutely sure about a lot of things when it comes to medieval western martial arts. That's what the dude on the right here is going for. The dude on the left is halfswording, so that he can also grapple, and get his blade in somewhere vulnerable.
It's suspected to especially have been a thing in judicial duels.
>It essentially makes your sword into a makeshift hammer.
And that's only if you opt for using the hilt end in the first place. Halfswording also:
-Makes a sword more manoeuvrable in a tight space e.g. inside a house
-Allows more precision and manoeuvrability with the point of a sword for better placed stabbing
-Makes parrying easier
-Allows for better use of the crossguard as a hook/grapple tool
Seriously. Halfswording is the finest technique of the late middle ages. It only wasn't used earlier because shields were a lot more important.
What? No, it doesn't. If you want everyone to be recognizable, you shouldn't be posting on 4chan in the first place.
Also I don't want anyone to know this thread is literally just me and like three other people.
You say you're one of us and that it's just a silly little thing you wrote in your spare time, while in reality you've been working on it for the last few months non-stop and hiring pre-readers to make sure everything is absolutely perfect.
We'll still point out a flaw or two, but we'll like it.
>it will never update again
>it will never even go on an official hiatus
>it will never even reach the first investigation
Why did you recommend this to me you faggots?
Hey, I'm just new to the general, not the board. I've been writing fics for some few years now. So what's the shorthand for this general if not /fft/? I do apologize for my blatant newfaggotry.
Wait, so is he or is he not aware that he's naming his OC after a neo-nazi v-bulletin board and the armed wing of the Nazi Party? I didn't look too closely at the guy's file; I only looked once to see what nationality he was since his English isn't the greatest.
I have to burst your bubble here, but disregard your comment section. It's nearly always worthless. And especially in your case, where it's just one guy who like your story.
Did you read the part of the Autism Tome where I mentioned that story where a guy stabbed Celestia and it had no consequences? That wasn't even nearly the most offensively stupid part of that story, yet I can't ever remember anyone commenting on any of his chapters and calling them bad.
In fact, he had a significantly more active comment section than what you have, and had several dedicated fans who told him how much they enjoyed it, not just one guy like you have. It's better for you if you stop excusing possible shortcomings in a story with "the commenters like it". FimFiction likes anything.
The sooner you realize you have to aim higher than FimFic comment approval the sooner you're going to get better.
When it comes to the sake of doing dark just for the sake of dark, just don't do it. If you like darkness and gore
like some 14 year old edgelord, do your best to make it meaningful.
Just because I'm curious, give me an example of what you mean by dark for the sake of dark.
We tend to not call this a general
or at least we didn't, because we love lies, and we don't often use a shorthand term. There is one, and it's absolutely in use but it's a mystery and you have to discover it for yourself.
I was referring more to my fav-to-view and upvote-to-downvote ratios than my comment section. Now, I don't consider those top-tier litmus tests for quality either, but I have literally nothing else except for my own judgement, which thinks it's fine for its niche target audience.
And I have been doing my best to make it meaningful, and it doesn't even appear that often. The fic is, in fact, very dialogue-heavy and character-driven, with some worldbuilding also included.
Right, I forgot.
>give me an example of what you mean by dark for the sake of dark
What I meant was there is a slight case of author appeal with the inclusion of gore and darkness, but again, I try hard to make it work.
You have less than 200 total views, despite writing it since early November and having had it posted here. Your story is completely unknown. It's not even "literally who"-tier.
You also don't have enough votes either way to even make them visible. You have nearly nothing to judge from, and even if you did, vote ratio means very little. Just ask anyone here, the number of votes a story has or the ratio of votes is totally irrelevant to the quality of the story. It's almost difficult to get a negative vote ratio.
Get someone competent to read it, if you actually care to find out how good your story is. Get a prereader, an editor, almost anyone. Just get someone who's willing to read all or parts of it, and get them to give honest feedback.
>The fic is, in fact...
Sure, those are words.
So what you meant is that you have an inclination towards it, but you claim you're concious about it and that you make it work. If it works, how is it being dark for the sake of dark? If it works, it surely serves some purpose in the story beyond its own existence.
I wanted to hold off on holding it up for criticism until it was completely finished (it's not even halfway finished) so it could be judged as a cohesive whole. Yes, I know that vote ratio means fuck all, but again, I have nothing else.
>So what you meant is that you have an inclination towards it
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I probably should've clarified that sooner since I was clearly giving off the wrong impression. It's meant to serve the story as part of the general theme and setting.
why do people who engage in self insertions feel the need to lie about it?
Not sure if that's better or worse than the ones that don't even bother to try
I'd actually prefer them to be honest about it. Sure, I'm not going to read either, but it's easier to spot them when they're open about it.
Plus, you could potentially do something fun if you really expand on the role of yourself as both author and protagonist. Naturally, there's never going to be anything good coming out of it, but there might be some potential in there.
They think people are gullible and won't catch the obvious clues. They also think their fic will hold up to scrutiny as long as it isn't stuck with the dreaded stigma that goes with the label of self-insert, which is missing the point.
And why do so many HiE fics start their MC in Everfree? Is that because it's close to Ponyville? Well why not just start in Ponyville instead of wasting everyone's time?
>And why do so many HiE fics start their MC in Everfree?
For the same reason Twilight has this weird compulsion to test dangerous magic in the Everfree without saying anyone.
Because it's the default origin of weird shit. Just say "I dunno wild magic lol" and you are set.
My headcannon is that the Everfree is another realm, like Tartarus and the weird alicorn place, only anchored to a loose location, only the place is so big that no one notices that today is five meters to the right. That'd also be the reason of it never expanding.
>And why do so many HiE fics start their MC in Everfree?
It's tradition, and it's easy. It's how a HiE "should" start, so that's how they start.
It really is the place to put anything that you can't really be assed to explain how it got there in the first place.
>you could potentially do something fun if you really expand on the role of yourself as both author and protagonist
Maybe the protagonist uses his power as the author avatar to literally pull plot devices out of his ass and wreak havoc for his own amusement. Kind of like Discord except with full omniscience and omnipotence. Just a thought. It's probably a crackfic premise unless someone decides to give it a little more nuance for some reason.
One would think they'd rip a page from Equestria Girls and accidentally fall through a portal. Maybe the portal is a toy shelf stocked with Flash Sentry dolls. Never mind, that's a terrible idea, but so is HiE as a whole.
>Maybe the protagonist uses his power as the author avatar to literally pull plot devices out of his ass and wreak havoc for his own amusement.
Might not be a selfinsert, but the main HiE was originally a writer for MLP:FiM, and now that he's in Equestria he can basically rewrite reality because of reasons. Except not really, because back on earth, they've started work on G5, which is influencing events in Equestria. Also he's affected by plot armor/dramatic convenience, an actual force of nature in the story, which as far as I can tell just does stuff at random as dictated by meta-dramatic convenience.
In other words, after about two chapters like what you described, it turns into a complete shitshow. Even the author gave up on it (status = Cancelled).
Also somewhat relevant: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/181949/at-the-inn-of-the-prancing-pony
>It's probably a crackfic premise
Only if you throw away all tact and subtlety.
You could do it in the style of a certain Baron, and it would make a decent comedy premise. Make it narcissistic and overblown, but please don't make meta references to the fact that you're telling a story, or give the character blatant narrative control. That's just unfunny and distasteful, and it never works out well.
>fall through a portal
Anon, that's how they end up in the Everfree in the first place. Like how in WaiWai's confusing first chapter, where the self-insert protagonist rides a nuclear blastwave into Equestria.
>And why do so many HiE fics start their MC in Everfree?
theres so many options.
1) they immediately get attacked by lame monster and in escaping it, find ponyville
2) they immediately get attacked by lame monster, and get rescued by their waifu who just happened to be wandering by
3) they find their waifu being attacked by a lame monster and rescue her, giving her waifu status and a reason to lift her tail for the bipedal abomination thatspotentially worse than the lame monster was
4) no lame monster attacks, but lulls them into thinking that they just somehow managed to wind up in the middle of a forest (despite moments before playing cawadoody in moms basement) before getting smacked with 'OMG magic talking horsies!!1'
whom I must now fuck
>that's how they end up in the Everfree in the first place
Really? I don't read HiE fics for obvious reasons, but I thought it was just "i went to sleep and woke up in forest lols". At least that's how a lot of Anon in Equestria greentext fics went when I read those (AiE is pretty much my source of knowledge in HiE tropes).
Are FimFiction HiE's that different from /mlp/ HiE's?
>"i went to sleep and woke up in forest lols"
Never seen that, though I don't read much HiE either. It's almost always a portal in the ones I know anything about.
>Are FimFiction HiE's that different from /mlp/ HiE's?
I think there's a fair bit of difference between them.
>>Are FimFiction HiE's that different from /mlp/ HiE's?
>I think there's a fair bit of difference between them.
Yeah, /mlp/'s are bearable from time to time when Anon is just a lighthearted humor character. A good example I can think of was a few months back when someone made Anon studying the main six as if they were savage animals in their natural habitats.
At least it was good until Rarity turned into a whore and bad smut came outta nowhere.
I can't imagine what differences there could be. One's a self-insert from the first (or third) person perspective and the other's from a second-person perspective. I could only guess /mlp/'s are slightly better because truly abysmal stuff would get flamed to death.
>"i went to sleep and woke up in forest lols"
theres a few primary variants.
>twilight fucks up a spell, summons human
>human an heroes/otherwise gets carked and winds up in ponyland because reasons
>that fucking salesman at comicon
>random protals lol
there are others, but thems the primary ones
>tfw when you realize waiwai and so many other cowadoody crossover shipfics will never be completed
I don't read a lot of either, so I'm guessing here, but I think what you're saying about the light-hearted comedy is pretty true. Also, there's a lot of pure smut here, but I think that's less common on FimFicion.
You also the the very blatant self-insertion on FimFicion, which is more frowned upon here. Almost all the HiE on /mlp/ is AiE, but the minority of the HiE on FimFiction is AiE.
Then there's naturally the stylistic differences between greentext and prose.
And I guess there's a difference in purpouse for some stories. FimFiction sees a lot of stories that work as blatant escapism, self-insertion, that's mostly made for the author. Here, I feel like greentext has to be more audience-directed, and the fantasy is a shared one instead of a blatantly personal one.
>I could only guess /mlp/'s are slightly better because truly abysmal stuff would get flamed to death.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, Anon. There was a time when even my horrible, horrible early greentexts had people encouraging me to write more.
>tfw i will never read the end of the glorious adventures of not-andre, DASHIII and princess clearasil
We truly lost the greatest German author of our time.
Maybe you can try reading with your eyes instead of your ears. You do read these fics without the aid of an electronic narrator, do you not?
Or maybe you can try reading with your fingers. Learning Braille might be useful to you one day.
I'm at 133, the second to last chapter. The story has gone from not so good to reasonnably good to kinda meh.
But what I like is that it's consistently okay. Never great, but never truly awful even after several hundreds of thousands of horse words. When I don't know what to read, there's always this.
Sure, it can get a litte edgy, but it kinda grows on you.
If you can look past the not so great writing quality, there aren't many fics that span multiple arcs with some semblance of an over-arching story after 1,800,000 words, and are still quite as readable as when they started.
There's that autistic blooming moon thing that I'm pretty sure nobody ever dared to start, the crap Imploding Colon vomits on a regular basis, and that about covers it for really long fics.
>and are still quite as readable as when they started.
Wow, he actually managed to keep the writing as shitty as when he started?
>a little edgy
When I dropped the fic, and I didn't even read that much of it, he's been raped three times, grown wings, murdered intelligent creatures he had no quarrel with and burned their tents, endangering women and children just to help Pinkie's parents with a little problem, been forced by Celestia to rescue slaves from a dangerous country and lead them to her through a desert while being raped, tortured and ridiculed by them, helped them besiege a city and be an edgy silent guy while showing off his scars.
Not to mention Luna attempting to assassinate Rainbow Dash because she thinks MC's into her and similar retarded bullshit happening on the side.
And that's not even a fifth of the fic.
>Wow, he actually managed to keep the writing as shitty as when he started?
Pretty much. There's a certain appeal to it.
>When I dropped the fic, and I didn't even read that much of it, he's been raped three times, grown wings, murdered intelligent creatures he had no quarrel with and burned their tents, endangering women and children just to help Pinkie's parents with a little problem, been forced by Celestia to rescue slaves from a dangerous country and lead them to her through a desert while being raped, tortured and ridiculed by them, helped them besiege a city and be an edgy silent guy while showing off his scars.
Well, you went through the worst, but you definitely haven't seen it all.
I think (hope) the author is aware that he's writing over the top edgy characters at this point. And that's sort of the style of the story, so it's kind of a hit and miss thing, but that's the kind of autism I can handle because it's all in good fun.
So yes everyone is completely OOC,
Celestia is a borderline evil whore with more fetishes than the average /d/emon, Luna is batshit insane, Chrissie is really just a victim with a sob story and will happilly fuck with MC, discord killed all of humanity (instead of just toying with them), and the M6 are living in fairy tale candyland except Ponk and Rarity like to rape people too.
Why are we talking about HiE, my friends? Are we not better than this? Can a mare consort with swine and think to walk away without the stench of the sty about her? Neigh, I tell thee, NEIIIIGHHH!
GLAD TO SEE WE CARE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THIS GENERAL
I think those are my first quints though, cool.
>bmc #1, ch. 1
It had to be done.
This is book 1 of the Blooming Moon Chronicles by BlackRoseRaven. Description doesn't look promising, but with a 35:1 ratio, how bad could it be?
>"I can only begin to imagine how difficult this night of all nights must be for you." the ivory equine said gently, her ephemeral rainbow mane spilling over her face and past her tall horn.
>"Thou did what thy had to, my sister… as thou often tells me oftentimes, blame not thyself."
Well that answers that question. But let's continue...
>Luna going to Nightmare Night
>Celestia tries to tell her that society has changed (i.e., don't yell at them you dummy), but she doesn't try very hard
>Luna goes to say goodbye to Scrivener before she leaves
And so we meet Mr. Wonderful:
>Scrivener Blooms: a court poet of Canterlot, an earth pony with a talent for verse that had won him a place in the heart and soul of Equestria.
>his coat was charcoal, his mane and tail blanch-white and the eyes behind simple black glasses a deep chestnut
>He stood with his side towards her, giving a clear view of his cutie mark: a black rose blossom, with a raven feather quill overtop this.
Well, I guess "white and black" isn't as bad as "red and black". That's a pretty edgy cutie mark though.
Here's what we learn about "Scrivy" in chapter 1:
>court poet, etc, etc
>has some kind of rivalry with Twilight
>assigned by Celestia as Luna's assistant
>he treats her like a normal pony!
>he lives on a nocturnal schedule for her sake
>he has a pet pseudodragon (lizard with wings) named Samael that sends letters like Spike
>actually it's a pseudodragon skeleton (undead, reanimated by Luna)
Also, him and Luna spend like half the chapter flirting with each other. But it's not like we didn't already know where this was going...
I'd rather discuss HiEs than wing guns, hoof swords and mouthblades for the thousandth time
>a black rose blossom
>a raven feather quill
so its a cleverly disguised self insert?
I accedentally started reading one of the later fic in the series
equestria is destroyed and everyone diesand thats only somewhere in the middle of the series
It sounds like you're struggling to talk, to be honest. Like you're trying to force out sentences with your last breath, or you just smoked a considerable amount of some remarkable shit.
Besides that, your mic isn't good enough for readings, so you might want to get a better one if you really want to do them.
You might want to wait for voicefag to get on to ask him for feedback. He probably knows the most about this stuff around here.
He can't help you get popular though hehehehe
Does anyone know any stories that focus on Twilight's anxiety as Celestia's student?
I might write one, I have a good idea of the general plot / setting / emotional arc I want. I'm imagining something slightly AU, set before Twilight arrives in Ponyville. Twilight lives in the castle for the most part, and sees her family rarely. She adores Celestia and her situation is pretty much a dream come true for her, but she's becoming more stressed by the day, and trying to hide it from Celestia compounds her stress. She's always enjoyed spending hours upon hours reading and learning about any subject, or practicing new magic, but but recently she feels less joy and more anxiety and stress. She's driven to go above and beyond for everything Celestia asks, and Celestia's been asking a lot more in a lot more areas (magic, philosophy, history, diplomacy, etc.). The recent intimate moments Twilight has shared with the Princess, hearing old stories and personal insights about the Princess that maybe no one else in Equestria knows only make her more eager to live up to Celestia's expectations.
Celestia isn't malicious, but is maybe a little out of touch. She finds herself infected by Twilight's enthusiasm as she soaks up knowledge. Twilight has a knack for asking piercing questions, and Celestia ends up confiding in her stories of things long past. Celestia sees Twilight as a potential leader, innovator, a future close friend, and, of course, a potential savior for her sister.
Ponies can hold stuff with their hooves. Pic related. A sword wouldn't be ideal, but I wouldn't say it's ridiculous.
Plus, this debate wasn't about swords--it was about grabbing onto armor with blades attached to it.
That's what I thought. I guess maces just weighed too much to be carried as a "secondary" weapon or weren't allowed in duels.
>what's the shorthand
I've seen /fimfic/ used a few times. I usually avoid calling the thread by name, though.
Darkest Before Dawn (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/8075/darkest-before-dawn) will always be the standard for "student Twilight" fics for me. A shame the author had to get butthurt over A Canterlot Wedding and instead of just tossing the thing into a AU, just abruptly ended it out of nowhere.
8.5/10. Would read, track, and comment on when it updates.
Especially if you address Spike and his status in it all.
It has less to do with the weight of maces, and everything to do with the regional rules of judicial duels. Plus, it's generally applicable if you find yourself stuck with only a sword against armoured opponents.
Great, he might be wanting too do an autistic take on Norse mythology. The first of those is also probably grammatically incorrect, if he intended to have it mean "the Night Edda".
equestria is destroyed and everyone dies
Ragnarök, I guess.
It's German. They're genetically destined to be into weird, kinky shit.
>A shame the author had to get butthurt over A Canterlot Wedding and instead of just tossing the thing into a AU, just abruptly ended it out of nowhere.
What's the story behind this one? I've been struggling with a similar issue myself since Crusaders of the Lost Mark. Not the butthurt part, that episode was beautiful, but its been giving me fits about how to go about characterizing DT & SS. It's stupid, and I know it's stupid, but my fic's been at a virtual standstill ever since.
>Ponies can hold stuff with their hooves.
Yes but only when the plot needs it. If we're talking about a serious fic that has thought behind it, and not a cartoon meant to sell toys, we really aught to do better than that.
Here's the solution.
Then add "This story takes place before the events of Crusaders of the Lost Mark" if you feel you need the extra clarification.
What are you hung up on? DT's talent is getting ponies to do what she wants, and her problem is she's found nothing ennobling to want because she's surrounded by toxic people. Ponies. Whatever. She vaguely realizes this, but doesn't know how to move forward without looking like a chump, and the last thing she can stand is looking stupid.
Actually, I don't know what to make of SS, except that she has her limits in terms of how much of DT's shit she's willing to take. She always seemed the slightly nicer one, to be honest.
It's mostly that I started the fic over a year ago and I write at a glacial pace, and the next chapter heavily features DT & SS, except that episode threw a curveball at their canon characterizations and it's causing me a mental block about it because I generally try to stick to canon where possible. Slapping an AU label on stuff to excuse blatant dismissal of canon never sat well with me. Considering I'm about 40,000 words in already though, I obviously don't really have any other choice, and like I said, I know I'm being stupid, but mental blocks like that aren't always completely rational.
Sounds like you need to chill about the canon thing. You are 100% compliant with at least 108 episodes' worth of canon, including everything up to the point where you started writing the fic. Just stick a line in the description or an author's note about it being written prior to COTLM and nobody will complain.
Quit encouraging people to shit up the AU tag with non-AU fics. Fun fact: "Progress" does not have an AU tag, your argument is invalid.
>Quit encouraging people to shit up the AU tag with non-AU fics. Fun fact: "Progress" does not have an AU tag, your argument is invalid.
Actually we should encourage people to un-shit the AU tag by adding stories which arent terrible.
True fact: "Progress" is shit that started off mediocre and went on entirely too long
>Actually we should encourage people to un-shit the AU tag by adding stories which arent terrible.
Should we also encourage people to un-shit the Slice of Life tag by adding Adventure fics that aren't terrible?
Should we also encourage people to un-shit the Comedy tag by adding Tragedy fics that aren't terrible?
>True fact: "Progress" is shit that started off mediocre and went on entirely too long
Not relevant in any way
>Should we also encourage people to un-shit the Slice of Life tag by adding Adventure fics that aren't terrible?
>Should we also encourage people to un-shit the Comedy tag by adding Tragedy fics that aren't terrible?
No. But we should encourage people to use the AU tag when a fic takes place in an AU.
In cancerousgynecologists latest fic, applebloom has a dick. or something like that. I dunno- i havent read it.
But since it canon has supposedly been established that AB doesnt have a dick, that would make his fic an AU. which is what the AU tag is for.
>Not relevant in any way
neither was bringing up progress in the first place.
And just because AJT doesnt know how to properly tag stories, that doesnt mean everyone has to be retarded too
>But since it canon has supposedly been established that AB doesnt have a dick, that would make his fic an AU. which is what the AU tag is for.
By your definition, every fic on the site needs an AU tag.
Please recall that the entire purpose of fanfiction is to tell stories that are not canon.
>neither was bringing up progress in the first place.
Progress is compliant with S1 canon but contradicted by S2 canon. This makes perfect sense because it was written prior to S2. It does not need an AU tag because (1) it is compliant with canon as of the time it was written, and (2) divergence from canon is not a significant aspect of the story.
>bmc #1, ch. 2-5
The pace of this thing is ridiculously slow. Fortunately it's quick to read, as it's somewhat predictable and unnecessarily verbose.
Luna and her totally, definitely, 1000% platonic friend "Scrivy" spend a lot of time together doing normal platonic-friend things, like talking, holding hooves, and sleeping in the same bed 5 days a week.
In chapter 2, Celestia sends Luna and Scrivener on a secret mission to collect some ancient artifacts from the vaults under the old Everfree castle. This mission is totally, definitely, 1000% perfectly safe, and by the way, Luna, how about you spend a month practicing battle magic before you set off?
So Luna spends the month practicing battle magic. Celestia spends the month treating Luna like a six year old for no apparent reason and being unnecessarily cryptic about the details of their mission (which is 10000% perfectly safe, by the way). Finally, midway through chapter 5, Luna and Scrivy set off. The chapter ends with them having just entered the Everfree.
Progress so far: 41,150 words, or 53% of the first book, or 0.93% of the overall series.
In my experience, there are a sizable group of readers who are just find with a straight-up ponification, even if you don't bring a unique twist to the story you're basing your fanfic on. Actual plagiarism is another matter, of course. I don't know how many people get away with it, but enough get caught and shamed/banned to tell me it's at least somewhat risky.
That said, I hope you'll chose to write a story which uses Omelas as a jumping-off point or as a thematic or structural inspiration, rather than just repeated exactly the same themes in exactly the same way with different words and characters. There's a big difference between something that a significant number of fimfic users will gladly accept, and something actually worth reading.
I kind of want a good story about my autistic waifu.
Anything really good?
Naturally, if I'd been wanting to make a proper project out of it, I'd use Le Guin's work as a point of inspiration.
This was more wondering if I could do a close copy, as the themes are easily transferable, and if anyone would actually catch on.
>Non horse words related FUCKING GOD DAMMIT BENGALS WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK
New Bleedin later tonight.
Maybe the trip to Vegas left him with a gambling addiction and now he's lost a sizeable amount betting in that game. Now he's going to record Bleeding's wordsplurge until debt collectors come break his legs.
Bengals lost to Steelers because Nigs gonna nig
Take a breath, man. You sound like you're struggling to breath. Which is apt, considering the story, but still.
Speak up a bit, or turn up the receive on your mic. I can hardly understand you.
Remember to pace yourself. If there's a comma in a sentence, use it to take a breath.
On the technical side of things, Audacity and a CAD U37 Haven't failed me yet.
Anon, you're a genius.
Voicefag, if you're in debt, just make the collectors listen to Bleedin's fics and read them. Offer them to never show them again in exchange for debt absolution. Profit.
Pic related. He couldn't stand Candy Ass so much, he stopped writing a fic that had nothing to do with her.
>go about characterizing
All fanfics get grandfathered in by fanfic readers.
Ascend taught me that lesson.If you haven't posted it yet, either set it before the episode aired, explain the characterization in an Author's Note, or slap the AU tag on it.
Progress was okay, but yeah, it went full Simpsons and just didn't stop. A habit Talon carried over to Hands.
>which is what the AU tag is for
The AU tag is for stories which deviate considerably from canon. "South Won the Civil War" deviate. Small or even moderate shifts away from canon don't warrant the tag because most longer stories will break away from canon as they tell their stories.
>how to properly tag stories
Progress doesn't need an AU tag because it was started prior to canon jossing it. To say otherwise means that every fic written prior to Twilicorn now needs an AU tag since they no longer sync with canon. Which destroys the whole point of having the tag.
>close to ponyville so he can meet muh mane 6
>always get attacked by manticore timberwolf hydra cockatrice or a combination of the above
>get rescued by pone or zigger
>alternatively forest doesn't bother him
>human rescues pone from monster show above
It's the biggest cliche known to HIE"s and it will NEVER go away. Which is shame because there are so many cool places a human could wind up and interact with besides mane 6 and everfree forest
>Which is shame because there are so many cool places a human could wind up and interact with besides mane 6 and everfree forest
Literally an entire world that could be explored.
But they stick with whats around ponyville because most people suck at creating a ton of OCs and you cant fuck your imaginary waifu if she lives in ponyville and youre stuck somewhere between aaaaaaaaaaaaapppalooosa and the badlands
I have the most despicable fucking idea.
A pony Nakige.
Really sappy slice of life, probably even romance thing. Then the protagonist and reader get shoved into a completely different, evil world, but slice of life, romance and friendship prevails once again.
And then comes the first bad ending, left on a sad but not "everyone dies" note.
Then the main hero must go back and make it right, saving the doomed world at the cost of everyone he held dear and even his own life.
The despicable fucking idea is, of course, the complete assfucking tonal change that the average fimfiction reader will get a heart attack over.
I've never had much of a problem with Shining.
Twilight didn't grow up with her Ponyville friends, and she hadn't been living there too long when ACW rolled around. Maybe she just doesn't talk that much about her time in Canterlot, or her family. In Amending Fences, Spike even comments on how Twilight doesn't have any pictures from before she moved.
I have friends that I've made after I moved away from home that I don't know the full family of. I have no idea of some of them have siblings. It's kind of odd that Twilight never told any of her friends about her brother, but it's not completely unbelievable for a adult character to not mention to her new friends that she has a older brother. Shining was written for ACW, and the setup was poor, but he's not the biggest problem.
Cadence is a way larger issue.
>tfw your favorite fics will never update
>last updated 2014
He's gone, /fimfic/
Im feeling it now
how long until someone does a shitty "Bowie in Equestria" fic like they did with Blobbin Heliums when he died?
>so many cool places
That reminds me of the fact the entire west coast of Equestria has neither been seen in the show nor in fanfics. Vanhoover, Los
or LasPegasus, Tall Tale, those spoopy villages in the Luna Bay--nothing.
I've sadly stalled in working on that Rainbow Factory story.
Why is it I always find out about people dying from 4chan despite checking Google News once a day?
There'll be a crackfic within two days and a more serious one within a week.
True enough. but that post was the first I'd heard of it, and /mu/ is blowing the fuck up about it.
Even >>26071246 didnt know about it and he purportedly checks the news. there fore a dead superstar who was famous 40 years ago is something that would only affect /mu/sers
seriously according to wikipedia he had some recent releases. how many normal people have never heard anything hes done after the 70s-80s?
I was specifically linking that chapter. I found it to be very emotionally heavy compared to other clopfics and wanted to see others' reactions.
I'm not saying it's the heaviest,
that honor would go to "This is what would happen if you had sex with Rainbow Dash" by the parasprite,but, it's what I've looked at recently.
Uh huh. And why did you specifically remove the story and chapter title from the link? It wasn't, by any chance, an attempt to artificially inflate
yourstory's view count by forcing people to click the link to find out what the fuck you're talking about?
>wanted to see others' reactions.
uh huh. if that were anywhere near remotely true you would have mentioned something in the post with the edited link
I'm not going to waste my time, so I'll just imagine the heavily emotional scene is where the apple clan learns that during their gay incest fest brasburn gave big mac aids. and then big mac gave it to appbelloom. because that would be hilarious.
now enjoy your downboat, gtfo and dont come back
>why did you specifically remove the story and chapter title from the link?
Because, I think long URLs look ugly, and take more effort to highlight.
>forcing people to click the link to find out what the fuck you're talking about?
D-did I manage to nudge your fedora this hard?
>uh huh. if that were anywhere near remotely true you would have mentioned something in the post with the edited link
I am "New to the thread"fag, hear me roar. Also, I'm not into that whole Reddit thing.
>now enjoy your downboat, gtfo and dont come back
I don't have to prove my non-identity to you. I'm just a big reader. Suffice it to say your shots in the dark are going to hit someone it hurts; this makes me simultaneously giddy and ashamed.