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They tend to get more talky as the seasons go on, but I always thought it sounded more natural.
From my recollection, the least talky season in recent years was Jungle Fury. Funny, because wuxia is all about posturing and pronouncements.
>It wasn't the blind chick either
Well, it would have been different.
I still have no idea what that was about. They weren't even particularly witty. Just excuses for people to keep yapping away.
Quick question frome someone who hasn't gotten around to watch Dino Charge yet: how much of the footage is re-used from Kyoryuger? I remember watching the first DC episode and it had original footage.
Fights are mostly from Kyoryuger, but they are well edited within the show for the most part,and dont take the entire episode as in super megaforce, they are well distributed.
The megazord fights are all sentai footage as usual, but there's some CGI original scenes that, aside from the fact that its kids tv show CGI, its well integrated and helps making you feel the human characters and the zords are on the same place.
There also are many out of suit fights (not an enormous amount, but many).
That said, as >>13785969 said the suit differences can get notorious in those exact three cases, although for the other 4 main ranger suits they are fine, not as clashing as Megaforce/Goseiger suits.
all seasons can be made into PR, people have been saying this since like SPD.
Heck, I recently watched Zyuranger and I kept checking the amount of usable footage each episode, it's way less than I expected.
For Zyuranger they edited together one episode from like, 5-6 episodes I think. Supposedly, the writers for MMPR would watch Zyu without the sound on and write episodes around the footage.
Has anyone ever actually timed how much Sentai footage gets used per episode? I know it'd vary from season to season (Samurai/MF/SMF would use way more than say RPM, for example), but it'd be a use measure for when the new Sentai comes out, and people inevitably say "This season is unadaptable"
There is a website floating around with an extremely comprehensive comparison of which shots are used and stuff for each episode right down to the duration, which Sentai episode it's from, if the shot's reused, etc.
Unfortunately, the name escapes me, and I can't for the life of me find it from googling for 20 minutes. It might be gone, but I'm not certain.
Found it. It only goes up to Ninja Storm, so it doesn't really take into account how Disney seasons tend to use it less, especially RPM (though that show went over budget and fired its first executive producer).
Honestly, when people reason Go-Busters not being adapted with the notion that it's just unadaptable because of Enter/Escape being prominently featured in fight footage, I can't help but scoff in my head. Maybe under a Tzachor tenure, but Lynn surely would have made it work. Go-Busters simply wasn't adapted because of merchandising interests.
You think MMPR was clunky? I'm rewatching Time Force and in the second episode and the fight scene keeps switching from a city street to some sort of docks and back again. It's cringey.
I'm thinking of selling my RPM zords to eventually buy the Go-Onger versions somewhere down the road. Would I get more money selling individually or go for the whole Ultrazord in one auction?
>sentai's hero year movie comes out
>they make bulky Goranger forms
>tfw we come full circle
I was wondering something that concerns the new comic book, do any of the mmpr rangers have siblings? I think has Zack has a brother or a cousin they introduced in season 2, and we know about there parents. But for the rest, we don't really know much about the rangers family hirstoies. Makes me wonder if they are allowed to add family members, or if Saban put stuff like that on a you can't write about this list.
I know Tommy does
>I think has Zack has a brother or a cousin they introduced in season 2
It was a cousin. Jason also had a cousin that showed up for an episode in season one.
I think at the most they'll touch on the fact that he's adopted, maybe with a bit of foreshadowing. Who knows.
>MMPR (unlockable Tommy)
As per usual, nostalgia bait
Ok, I'll give you this one
Totally makes sense. The last crossover was during iS.
The last one before DC. Still fresh in the minds of the kids.
I think this one is obvious.
Yeah, I take back what I said about MMPR after seeing Tommy. Regardless, it's less the seasons they went with and more the specific rangers. MMPR Green and Red Space make sense in their own ways, but Gold Zeo, Silver Megaforce, and Pink Dino Charge?
Gold Zeo is one of the most popular sixths after Tommy, maybe along with Titanium or Quantum.
Silver Megaforce is a recent sixth(sixths are cooler to most people, not to me though),
DC Pink is odd, but they probably wanted to put a girl. At least it was the best neo-saban girl.
So in Ninninger they did this thing that I hope they use in Ninja Steel where they have 3 red rangers. Now in the sentai they do it because they are related and they just got their power back but I hope they figure out how to do it in Ninja Steel without the blood relation.
Unless it's like, himself from the future or something. I just never liked the idea of rangers being related and that's why they are rangers. Gem and Gemma being exceptions since they just work so well together but Saban could never pull that off, or would even be willing to.
They kept family relations in the two famiy sentai they used, even if not all the team, so maybe they do the same.
That said, the other two Akaninger dont appear on much fighting footage so there's not much of a point. They did female shinken red though.
It's doubtful that they would because Saban gets in trouble if they don't make the Power Rangers inclusive of all ethnicities. If you have one family, you probably have one ethnicity.
I haven't seen Ninninger, but I think I heard those other 2 red rangers (the Father and Grandfather of the regular Red) only appeared as rangers towards the end of the show? If so, I'd quite like it if they did a time travel thing with them, being different versions of Red from the future, back to warn them about some impending doom.
That's what I meant, both Lightspeed Rescue and Mystic Force had related rangers, even though they werent the whole team. So only the other two red should share the same ethnicity with the main red. The other four can be black, chinese or whatever.
> If you have one family, you probably have one ethnicity.
Nick is not the same ethnicity as both of his parents. Then again, his parents arent fully human so they may work different.
While snooping for the newest episode, I found a handy link with not only all of Dino Charge, but Mega links to DL all of the other Power Rangers episodes:
Consider adding to OP thread.
Also if anyone has an encode to When Evil Stirs, that would be most appreciated.
I like how we got another recycled monster suit this episode. This time another one from R.P.M. I hope they continue to use old suits as background characters when Ninja steel comes round, Would be so perfect with the game show idea they are going for. They could be used a contestants, or have random monsters watching the show on tv.
For this being PR, Koda is pretty well handled. I liked in the first DC season when Ivan had to remind him that Earth isnt flat.
>"Imagine that. Shelby! Studying to be business woman!"
>"What is...business woman?"
>"I have no idea."
That's way more effort than they're willing to do. It's the same reason they didn't adopt GoBusters.
I'm sad we won't see this sexy machine.
That's not the reason GoBus wasn't adapted. It's because of Enter and Escape. They couldn't use footage with them. And Enter and Escape are the only generals Vaglass had. We had human villains being replaced in the past, but there always were other generals. Even RPM relied on all of generals' costumes. So did Time Force, In Space and many others.
Basically, we would probably get ToQGer if Ninninger villains were all actual people.
And what 'mighty morphin it' even means?
>And what 'mighty morphin it' even means?
I guess he means completely changing the setting and plot except for the suits and mechs scenes....which is not something exclusive to mighty morphin but whatever.
Will there ever be a Sword+Sorcery themed PR/Sentai? Are the japs against this idea or something? It seems bizarre that the closest we've gotten to this over the 40 years of Sentai has been Magiranger/Mystic Force.
What would happen if a PR series down the line had a female leader? Technically it hasn't been done before, I'm not counting pic and jaydens sister, she would need to start and end the series being team leader. Would it work? Could a woman be a well done leader without them being all
>GIRLS CAN DO IT TOOOOOO
Or would they turn it into some sorta feminist propaganda bullshit?
It could be done well. All ideas can be well-executed.
That said, I'm on the fence. On the one-hand, either they would turn it into girl-power propaganda, or they wouldn't and FemRed would be just like any other Red but people who aren't kids and who also don't post on Maori ta moko imageboards would pick up on it, and treat it as girl-power propaganda.
What would most likely happen is the first season of CBS' Supergirl: first few episodes are full-force girl-power everyone's-sexist-for-no-established-reason propaganda, but once they've taken the bait, CBS/Saban sweeps the rug out from under them and immediately transforms it into a proper superhero show.
>What would happen if a PR series down the line had a female leader?
That'd require a female red in the sentai or else people would complain about the gender changes like they still do about a show that's literally more than 20 years old. And I dont see a female-lead sentai with Bandai's business model.
That said, if done well, it might be good, as with anything.
>Or would they turn it into some sorta feminist propaganda bullshit?
Very likely. Then again, Power Rangers has always been "sjw done right" but of course, no one cares about at because "muh zordon is racist" jokes.
>What would most likely happen is the first season of CBS' Supergirl: first few episodes are full-force girl-power everyone's-sexist-for-no-established-reason propaganda, but once they've taken the bait, CBS/Saban sweeps the rug out from under them and immediately transforms it into a proper superhero show.
did that really happen? Then supergirl might be worth checking out. Reminds me of how sense8 was full sjw the first 2 episodes then calmed down in the rest of the season(it was still bad though).
Yes, obviously it could work. But Japan will never go for it.
Technically, we've had female leaders twice before in PR
>Delphine - Alien Rangers
Unfortunately, the Alien Rangers were shitty, and I don't really remember Delphine doing anything in particular. Cestro did more than her, really.
>Jen - Time Force
For years, I assumed that Pink being the leader was actually just an American addition, because outside of the first couple of episodes, all the sentai footage would seem to suggest that Red is the leader. But, apparently Pink was the leader in both the Sentai and PR (Because Time Force is a fairly close adaptation of Timeranger). So, Jen was technically the leader, but most of the footage has Wes front and center, for some reason.
NinjaWhite was also the leader in Kakuranger, but its a plot formality, that's why you dont often see that in the fighting formations.
In Megaranger the black was also, in theory, the leader (that's why Carlos had the best stats and held the team weapon, fuck the people who complained about Zack), in Gekiranger the leader was the yellow, also technically(none of this appears in JF) and the Goseigers were stated to have no leader(which was ignored in Megaforce).
> the Alien Rangers were shitty
There's not much you can do with just 10 episodes that were just a setup for the next team. I'll take them before the megaforce rangers any day.
>did that really happen? Then supergirl might be worth checking out. Reminds me of how sense8 was full sjw the first 2 episodes then calmed down in the rest of the season(it was still bad though).
I wouldn't say that makes it good, but it certainly decided to actually be a show about superheroes.
Sort of like how Arrow suddenly decided to be a superhero show when Flash premiered.
>I'll take them before the megaforce rangers any day.
What's even the point of saying that? Literally no-one disagrees on the point of MF/SMF being the absolute low-point of the show, below even Operation Overdrive.
>Literally no-one disagrees on the point of MF/SMF being the absolute low-point of the show, below even Operation Overdrive.
you'd be surprised. Linkara, for starters doesnt think that.
At least he has a reason for thinking so. Pretty sure his opinion was "MF/SMF didn't really qualify as characters because they were empty, OO were characters but they were awful"
She was officially the leader of the future team, but after a few episodes Wes is clearly taking the actual leadership of the group. IIRC, in the episode where they get bikes Wes is clearly the leader and remains so from then on.
I was thinking about female Reds thanks to all those people complaining about lack of Rey merchandise at Disney stores, and I thought "Given that and all the Katniss Everdeen shit that's been pushed lately, maybe Saban could take advantage of that craving." I'm sure someone behind the scenes is actually thinking about that
They also use Arabic numbers and Roman numerals.
I don't understand where Greek factors into this.
The problem is that most of the people who would buy PR merch or who would even watch the show are not the people who like Hunger Games or would complain about a lack of Rey merch because of sexism.
PR's demo is elementary school, mostly guys with some girls.
Hunger Games' demo is middle to high school, mostly girls with some guys.
And I've honestly never even noticed actual Star Wars toys. I don't even remember any commercials for them when the prequels came out. They certainly aren't toyetic enough to be as popular as PR, and they always seem to look like hot garbage, that Kylo Ren one is awful. And Hunger Games doesn't have toys at all, because they aren't appealing to people who still play with toys.
Basically, like >>13824747 says there would have to be a female sentai red, and even if there wasn't (in a hypothetical world where all the footage is original a la Tir Na Nog) it would most likely be for story decisions, rather than for progressive points.
The thing is that sentai aside, PR was always marketed as a boys think, just check how the toys always give special power ups to the male members only (girls only get those when its a full team power up), the ranger keys released were mostly male and Gia had no focus episodes to the point they switched a Luka/Don episode to a Noah/Jake episode.
Never say never though(there were, after all, MMPR dolls), but it would sort of go against how the franchise has been conceived for the last years, so I personally dont see it happening. Power rangers is already very politically correct anyways (but without letting that hurt the show).
>hey certainly aren't toyetic enough to be as popular as PR, and they always seem to look like hot garbage
Star Wars is toyetic as fuck anon, its in fact considered one of the main things like make the franchise what it is, sort of how gunpla was always part of the gundam franchise. Even minor one-time characters get toys(and I dont even mean "TR8R" minor, even characters that dont even talk). That said, I agree, kids dont really give much of a shit about sexism, at least the ones without sjw parents.
> And Hunger Games doesn't have toys at all, because they aren't appealing to people who still play with toys.
Depends on how you define "toy".
SW is toyetic, but most of it's peripheral merch aren't actual toys. "Toyeticness" refers to merch in general, so a toy, or a video game, or a lunch box. SW is super toyetic, but not in the same way Power Rangers is, because SW is a blockbuster film franchise, and Power Rangers is a children's TV show.
>Depends on how you define "toy".
If it's going onto a shelf and not into a kid's hands, it's not a toy. Image search shows lots of Amazon reviews that treat those HG figurines as collectibles that offer very little in the way of actual play (there's little to no articulation, and the clothes are all molded plastic), and that they're good collector's items.
>Even minor one-time characters get toys
I love how this extra that was carrying an ice cream maker as a prop has his own action figure.
While not a minor character, I always found this variant hilarious.
Because Pink is gay, anon.
For real though, in the toyline, the Crane and Shogun zords were repainted Pink. It worked out fine for the crane, but it looks pretty ugly for the Shogun zord
>Tommy becomes black ranger
>Fuck, I need black clothes now
>Kendall becomes purple ranger
>Fuck color coordination
Who wants to bet that Gold Ninja Steel ranger is going to be an alien who's in love with Earth culture, but has but thinks it's only cowboys?
They'll probably use Zaram's suit from Toquger for the alien form
We also won't see transfer line changes.
The original transfer changes were interesting but generic, the only thing that you got was another ranger's weapon.
If they had brought Toqger over, they could have done a twist on the Transfer line like every suit came with it's own unique power and by changing colour, the characters could utilise each other's powers.
>Implying that isn't the coolest shit ever
>Implying Space Reverse Weaboo Gold won't fill the void Koda will leave after DC is over
And if you honestly believe that isn't the tightest shit ever, there's the door.
Things they could have kept.
-Plotline- America has already done movies about X year old wakes up to find himself an adult. Toqger could have received a faithful adaptation.
-Set it in an area where trains are still used like the US Northeast.
Get rid of
-The Bazooka Sequence. Skip the silly imagination-powered karmic death to the explosion.
-Imagination as a theme. It's something that really skews Toqger to a younger audience. I never really liked it because it presumes only little kids can be imaginative and not adults who work in creative industries.
-The LED display announcing the Zord's names. Or maybe not considering how these things are unedited (the original Gosei card names were kept in Megaforce)
>I never really liked it because it presumes only little kids can be imaginative and not adults who work in creative industries.
Except there are different adults who could still see the trains, and the last movie has them as adults with their imaginations intact.
Not a bad resemblance, either.
Unlike the main cast, she's quite established. I've liked her in the few things I've seen her in, Betsy Brant in the original Spider-Man trilogy and Kim Briggs in Scrubs. Looking forward to it.
She has experience sending teenagers to their deaths, at least.
May the odds be ever in your favor, Rangers.
>Elizabeth Banks Cast as Rita Repulsa in Upcoming Power Rangers Movie
Best neo-saban villain?
>most of the footage has Wes front and center, for some reason.
Because of Red privilege. Even if the Red Ranger isn't the official leader, they're still the most important member of the team.
I'm curious why they picked that suit. Was there that much original footage of him fighting? He was a movie only guy, right?
It is a cool looking suit, but I wonder if that was the only reason.
>Was there that much original footage of him fighting?
No, he only appeared in a movie and fought the Abarangers(Dino Thunder) and Toqgers mostly.
We usually use the expression "original footage" for PR only footage btw.
I'm sure its looks are the only reason they picked that suit. I think it fits more with the kind of character they're going with than any of the deboss generals.
>Original Rita was Japanese
>Reboot Rita is white
Why is this allowed?
>Rita was already played by two american actresses in the show
>Original Blue ranger was japanese, then made white, then made Black
>Original Black ranger was japanese, then black and now asian
>original Yellow ranger was a japanese guy, then an asian girl and now a white girl
They've already changed lots of ethnicities anon, specially for Rita's case. It would be kinda hard to get Machiko Soga to do the role now dont you think?
Neo-Grifforzer also looks like somebody was making an original villain, but then realised that he was supposed to make a costume that looks like an old one. Seriously, the damn thing looks nothing like OG one.
She wasnt human, that's not why she didnt die. Zedd, Divatox and Astronema arent human and survived. Unless by "human" you mean "humanoid" and not "earthling", but the other anon was clearly refering to "earthling".
Earth isn't the only place where humans live. I'm from a space colony, KO-35. It's in the Karova system.
When the fuck did humans put out a space colony is what I want to know
Also who agreed to that hair
The other guy meant "earthling" anyways so its moot to debate what "human" means.
>When the fuck did humans put out a space colony is what I want to know
There's a season literally about that...but it happened after In Space.
Something I realised when I was rewatching In Space was that Andros was just ridiculously pretty. The girl watchers (what little of them there were) must have crushed on him hard
>The girl watchers (what little of them there were) must have crushed on him hard
not anymore, he looks almost unrecognizable now
From a design standpoint, there's no competition.
Well, he was a better sixth than Omega.
Because it would be a tremendously overbudget television show that would perform similarly to an average season because it's still television?
Feature film is a high investment, high reward medium. (And this one so happens to banks on cultural nostalgia)
>could they have possibly used the money to make a show that goes against the franchise's very conception?
It actually performed really well. There was supposed to be second season. But then In Space caused a massive rise in Rangers' popularity and budget was taken from Knights and given to Lynn and co. to make Lost Galaxy.
>Not liking the fact that Lord Zedd and Rita are so based they got to live happily ever after without ever paying for their crimes or addressing the consequences of their actions.
I mean, you're right, but what happened is funnier.
Heck, why didnt they juts dub Shinkenger anyways? It requires less work than making a proper PR season, you make something "new" and you can cash in on toys (and also sell the MMPR ones anyways since nostalgiafags would buy them).
Ultraman has been dubbed and aired in the US a couple times, but I never recall anyone ever talking about it or ever seeing toys on the shelves. I don't think even Power Rangers could survive in the US market as just a dubbed show.
Considering that back then Disney didnt even want to make it (before selling it back to Saban), and that Power Rangers was already an established brand for 17 years I'd say those two cases arent comparable. I'm not saying they should dub all sentai, I'm saying that at that moment, under those conditions, it would have been better than what we actually got.
>Power Rangers was already an established brand for 17 years I'd say those two cases arent comparable
That means it'd be even worse. "Relatively unknown dubbed Japanese live action show does poorly" would go under the radar and be ignored. "Once-huge pop culture phenomenon reduced to dub of Japanese live action show" would be terrible press. Remember that most of the population under age 50 knows the gist of what Power Rangers is, but not that it's based on a Japanese show. Airing a dubbed Sentai as Power Rangers in the US could be catastrophic and have lasting impact on toy sales, especially with parents/grandparents who are biased against their children consuming Japanese/foreign things.
The MMPR edit was a safer move.
The MMPR edits weren't a straight up dub of a Japanese live action show.
>. "Once-huge pop culture phenomenon reduced to dub of Japanese live action show" would be terrible press. Remember that most of the population under age 50 knows the gist of what Power Rangers is, but not that it's based on a Japanese show.
People stopped caring about it after MMPR. If anything, it would have given exposure to the franchise, for good or for bad.
>especially with parents/grandparents who are biased against their children consuming Japanese/foreign things.
That's why anime is so unpopular in America right?
>The MMPR edits weren't a straight up dub of a Japanese live action show
>If anything, it would have given exposure to the franchise, for good or for bad.
There's no chance in hell it'd be good exposure.
>That's why anime is so unpopular in America right?
Have you never seen parental backlash for "death notebooks" or "nurutu sand ninjas"? Pokemon being decried for being demonic evolutionist propaganda from Japan?
The main demographic for Power Rangers toys is kids who are too young to buy them themselves, and thus, parental image is key. In fact, that's why they made Lord Zedd less scary and more comedic: Parents wrote letters to complain.
Disney had to release something. If you can't see why a rehash of MMPR was a safer bet than a dub of Shinkenger, then you just don't understand the American market.
>There's no chance in hell it'd be good exposure.
Sorry, I forgot Power Rangers is seen as a paragon of good quality.
>Have you never seen parental backlash for "death notebooks" or "nurutu sand ninjas"? Pokemon being decried for being demonic evolutionist propaganda from Japan?
Yes. Anime is also popular as fuck anyways.
>The main demographic for Power Rangers toys is kids who are too young to buy them themselves, and thus, parental image is key.
You mean the same kids who buy pokemon cards and games?
>Disney had to release something.
> If you can't see why a rehash of MMPR was a safer bet than a dub of Shinkenger, then you just don't understand the American market.
Well, the MMPR is not exactly popular, specially with the PR fanbase so I guess they dont understand the american market either.
How is the fact that something japanese is popular proof that people hate something japanese?
>Sorry, I forgot Power Rangers is seen as a paragon of good quality.
Do you have a reading disability? What does that have to do with anything?
>You mean the same kids who buy pokemon cards and games?
No, I specifically mean the kids younger than that. The main PR toys are the Megazords, which are for ages 4+. Four-year-olds generally lack the reading ability to properly play the TCG or games. You don't generally see four-year-olds buying things without their parents nearby, either.
>Well, the MMPR is not exactly popular
Are you fucking serious
>Do you have a reading disability? What does that have to do with anything?
It does when you think it having exposure for bad quality is something bad when its already seen as a bad quality show.
>No, I specifically mean the kids younger than that.
Have you ever watched pokemon? its way dumber than PR.
>Are you fucking serious
Are you? Everyone hates the MMPR remake.
Did Dino Charge already did the Kyoryu VS GoBus? That's good material there to use. All Saban needs to do is throw in Forever Red or Once a Ranger kind of fanservice episode (not the returning cameos kind of Super Mega Force).
In my mind them splitting would be the outcome. They hate each other and Snide seems hell bent on taking over. Heckyl seems to like taking the non violent approach so maybe something snide does drives him to want to be on his own.
Snide is a shit and has the ability to come out when he pleases. If I were writing it I'd have them finally get a dino gem (Talon) and use it as an evil ranger allowing Heckyl to suppress Snide but being as the monsters listen to Snide more than Heckyl they find a way to split the two and Snide wrecks Heckyl's shit. Steals the dino gem. A defeated Heckyl as to ask the rangers for help and forgiveness. Then he becomes a reformed Talon Ranger.
>Then he becomes a reformed Talon Ranger.
Man fuck reforming. I'd rather him be evil to the bitter end. Hell make it like the Go-Busters vs Dark Buster for the finale or something
Forgetting the Ranger base is such a cop out, but I guess there's still eighteen episodes to go.
The "Who is NUR?" line killed me.
>used the Enertron towers in some shots
I want him to become Endorf first.
EH. He works mostly becuase he is a wild card that shakes status quo of first season. Also, it would be a lot harder to make Deboss' costumes work with him in charge as a main villain.
Look at his blue tips. Look at them.
It's baffling that they're using Neo-Geildon instead of Endorf for Heckyl's other half, as it's actually more work for them to do it this way, but I'm sure there's a reason for it.
I guess because they wanted to still have PR-exclusive villain footage. Neo-Zeltrax costume allows them using a Sentai suit, but modify it (sword instead of an axe and shield) and use it in fights. Plus, I guess they want to use the whole 'Dogold takes control over Endorf's body plotline'. Also, I love Endorf's costume, but it's not really 'main villain' costume