first time posting
Here's my fiction shelf. My nonfiction shelf has Richerd Feynman, Richard Dawkins and a few other intellectual elites.
>Richard Dawkins and a few other intellectual elites
Alright it was a good bait, I fell for it
pls no bully
Local library is having one if it's bi-yearly booksales this weekend. There are actually really decent books available for a quarter a pop. Pretty hyped. My friend bought 23 books the last time he went. I'm gonna need to buy another shelf soon since this one just filled up.
I suppose I meant to say fiction literature then? Or philosophical literature? There's nothing wrong with history, but it wouldn't hurt to expand your scope. All you seem to care about is war.
Well at least you're not from reddit. We had one poster here who was into guns, he was a neat guy.
I will when the serie end. I was tricked into thinking he was a genius for writing to many different POVs but then I started the Malazan series and found out hes a fucking bum. still want to know how that shit story ends tho
>You aren't stealing, it's on internet, as you may know, the nobody's land
I own a Kindle. It's very useful for short story anthologies and poetry collections because plenty of authors don't have whole collections readily available in a single book.
But just for reading, it doesn't feel right to do the ebook. I'm not gonna try and make a huge argument in favor of physical copies. There are some light perks, but practically, they fall short to the benefits of e-readers. It's largely nostalgia and materialism that keeps me buying printed copies. Plus it's rewarding to see your collection grow. Your room becomes a library and over the years it turns into a thing that impresses yourself and others. This would never happen to the extent that it does with an ereader. It also keeps me more excited to buy a new book, knowing that it's something I can hold and add to the rich story collection that is held within my bookshelves.
I also wanted to add that it seems your main argument revolves around price. I don't buy new books, so I can't use the "I support the artist :^)" point, but I just wanted to add that it's not expensive at all. Used books are anywhere from a coin value to about $5. I read anywhere from 30 to 100 books a year, so I'm looking at $500/year at an absolute max, typically less. This is not expensive for a hobby that I invest a good amount of time in. For the pleasures that I pull out of my collection and it's practical aesthetics that it adds to my room as a furniture piece, it's well worth it.
You can't into English it seems. Try again and take a lap.
Nobody wants to see your blurry, shitty bookshelf. If you need it explained why what's IN the shelves is what's important, then you need to go take another lap.
So many faggots on /lit/ today, I wonder what happened.
I literally buy every book I read. I usually have a backlog and have more books than I've read. I've also never had any monetary issues doing this and I live as a college student who is in debt, working entry level positions that don't pay all that well.
I don't live in the slums of Mumbai and can afford it. Apparently this is a big deal to you people, but what can be expected of all you 14 year olds. Maybe ask mom for a higher allowance before you come back and shitpost.
It just reflects an extraordinary level of entitlement that you're able to waste all this money because real books are more "authentic" or something. Obviously you're not going to agree with me because you already have invested so much money in it that it's too late to back down now, but on some level, you know I'm right.
Each book cost less than $10 US. More books around my suite. When I get an apartment I'm going to have a nice improvised board and cinderblock bookcase with room for at least 200. Also, Kindle is a gift from my boyfriend for christmas; I'm enjoying it far more than I expected.
as those are me. I presented exactly why I buy physical books and the reasoning doesn't align with your stereotyped vision of book-buyers, sorry. How many people do you alienate from your life because of your hostile presumptions?
I don't see how it's money wasted when I legitimately enjoy collecting physical copies of books for what amounts to a nominal chunk of change from my yearly salary. What do you spend your money on?
I also find it humorous that I'm somehow reeking of entitlement when I purchase used books. Your "superior" alternative is copyright infringement, dude. It's not even legal. People who live normal lives and aren't penny-pinching Jews don't want to associate themselves with needless criminal behavior. Why would I put my well being at stake for what amounts to petty theft? I don't need that. I'm not going to think that I'm somehow a bad person for buying used books. You're absolutely deranged. Your argument is insane. Seek help.
Books made of paper=entitled.
Kindle and e-readers made with rare earth metals and a technology only made possible through the military industrial complex, stamped out by third world slaves and then shipped thousands of miles away, only to be dumped in a landfill after a new model comes out = authentic, minimalist, ecological, free from egocentric considerations.
Is that all you've got to say? What a shitty response. I called you insane because you'd condemning the actions of a simple pleasure activity and offering a lone alternative of breaking the law for people to correct themselves. Why you even care enough to have posted is worrying.
Go back to /pol/. You're not funny and you just start shit in /lit/. Nobody wants to hear about Trump in the literature board other than all of the other Trump supporters like yourself who are too vocal and too heavy on their shitposting.
It is going to refute the argument that ereader users are somehow more virtuous than people who prefer physical media? No one is saying ereaders are pointless only that the moral posturing of ereader users is fatuous, and the idea that electronic devices should completely supplant traditional print media.
It seems like everybody else in this thread is taking this argument way more seriously than I am, but if you really want to know my point of view, it's that this whole thing strikes me as a pretty garish display of conspicuous consumption. Same as when somebody shows off their DVD collection or vinyl collection or some other meaningless assemblage of consumer goods which don't mean anything and don't serve any purpose in this internet age where all media is available at all times. Obviously this is going to be infuriating for the people for whom the products they consume is such as integral part of how they define themselves, which I guess I didn't think about before posting the comment, but it still strikes me as ridiculous in general, especially when looking at the titles on these shelves, which you would think couldn't possibly be read by people who don't understand concepts like "entitlement" and "conspicuous consumption," but hey, what do I know? I've bought plenty of books over the years, because obviously Kindles haven't always been around, but I haven't bothered to hold onto them, and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be posting them on some anonymous internet forum hoping to be validated by my fellow consumers who implicitly applaud all the hours wasted a pointless desk job doing bureaucratic bullshit that doesn't need to be done but can't be scaled back either because that might mean that there's less work to do and some people might be out of a job. I guess you guys can have your little consumerist circlejerk here but don't be surprised if not everybody buys into it. I'm sure plenty of you will take offense and defend your right to obliviously waste your money on things you don't need because you like the 'feeling' of a real book or something, but some anonymous person on the internet is not going to convince me that I'm wrong and that I actually should be buying as many books as possible and snapping pictures and sharing it with strangers for that sweet, sweet validation instead of just reading the books I want to read, all of which I have immediate access to at any time free of charge.
quantity does not equal quality, folks
inb4 kindle hate.
I was sceptic at first too but I got one gifted and I kinda love it. Reading on it is just really fucking comfy and having a collection of 50 books with you is great (even though personally I only ever read one at a time). Something that always annoyed me with traditional books is that I like to lie on my side in bed while reading but if you are on the left page the right page is kinda in the way on the bed and if you're on the right page the left side just hangs in the air uncomfortable. Kindle solves this perfectly.
I just wish it was a bit better for manga or B/W comics
>just 25 people per side.
>not even cross testing it by switching them around with a second story
yeah well.. no. I can see where they're coming from but unless they improve their methods I can't take this "study" serious. That's like one and a half classrooms of people.
Well, I can see that but I'm a poorfag so the kindle is kind of a godsend. I just couldn't read whole walls of text in a PDF. on my Monitor.
But now I'm a faggot because I have pretty much every book ever written as an option before me and I'm so indecisive that I end up doing nothing.
Holy shit kill yourself you retarded faggot. You're far more entitled than anyone else itt because you think you should just have the author's hard work for free, on your slick little tampon device. You don't give a shit about the author's estate, or his editor, or anyone but yourself. I bet you would steal poor people's groceries if you could get away with it you subhuman.
Print books have resisted digitization far better than movies or music because print is the superior format.
Some people have jobs and can afford things they like and prefer. Get over it.
You're gonna look like a real idiot in a couple of years when the ebook equivalent of Spotify comes out and you're still raving like a lunatic with all your sunk cost fallacy bullshit.
I have thousands of books that I [downloaded legally] got for free. Most of my physical books are things that I dont enjoy reading on my kindle i.e. graphic novels/ Calvin and Hobbes collections, and books I have to have physical copies of (textbooks).
It'll take some time to get into the swing of things, so don't buy more than 1-2 books at a time for at least the next few months. It takes time to learn which editions/translations/publishers to choose, and it's better to take the time researching beforehand than to regret a poor edition.
For example, that's an abridge version of the Count of Monte Cristo, (I think) a misprinted edition of Dune (a few pages missing), and a brief selection managed by God-knows-whom of Burton's 1001 nights.
Nothing super major, but those are signs you should spend a bit more time looking into what you buy before you buy it. As a general guideline the B&N leather classics aren't great, and at the very least look gaudy and shit. Vintage is a great publisher, and don't be put off by the "penguin sucks" meme; as long as you're judicious in researching translations, it'll do just fine.
It's almost like some of us are wealthy and aren't ashamed of it. I waste money on premium gas, coffee, cigars, and absurdly expensive clothes; a few books are the least of my worries.
Woops, you already mentioned conspicuous consumption here >>7587930
Kek. Get the fuck over yourself. I can almost smell how poor you are, and would be willing to bet that you're the kind of person who dresses like an absolute mong just because he wants to avoid being "garish," while failing to understand that "garish" as seen through your eyes is actually just "being your own person with individual tastes and preferences."
I like how you deride people you "define themselves" by what they buy, as though you believe yourself exempt from a base, instinctive judgment of physical appearance and possessions that is passed on you by each and every person you meet, as though you genuinely believe people will see "the real you."
The irony, of course, is that you're the one who started shitposting about "consumerism" and "showing off," before becoming defensive and maintaining that nobody is going to convince you that you're wrong. Have you ever considered that the things you like aren't the things that every single other fucking person likes? Just as you annoyingly remain obstinate about an opinion which you only have to defend because you fucking tried to lord it over everyone in this thread, the rest of us have our own opinions; if we're in this thread, odds are that those opinions include deriving enjoyment from purchasing, reading, and owning physical copies of books.
The only difference between our circlejerk/validation and your own is that you're all alone being a faggot in a thread that doesn't concern you, which you could have just as easily ignored, and in doing so spared us from your boorish, unnecessary, and unwelcome comments.
Wow, thank you anon, instead of making fun of me you actually gave me some good advice.
I've got Infinite Jest, Gravity's Rainbow, Ulysses and War and Peace ordered from about two weeks ago and that was really all I was planning on getting for the next few months until I get through my backlog. Gravity's Rainbow and War and Peace are Vintage, and Ulysses is Everyman's Library, are those good choices?
The Count of Monte Cristo that I have is 1065 pages, I thought it'd be the unabriged version. If it isn't, I'll have to get myself a copy of the unabriged from Penguin or something.
It's my pleasure; I was in your shoes just a few months ago, and have a few less-than-ideal purchases on my own shelves.
GR from vintage is perfect; it's the Penguin deluxe edition that has some errors.
War & Peace from Vintage is also great--you'll hear polarized opinions on the Pevear/Volokhonsky translations, but the negative comments are mostly memes, as they're quite widely respected as translators of Russian lit.
I'm honestly not sure about Ulysses, but I know that the "safe" edition is the 1961 Modern Library edition (which you can actually buy basically brand new, cloth bound, for like $15), or the reprints from Modern Library (mid 90s, the one with Joyce's pic on the front) or Vintage, pic related. Everyman's could be okay; do some poking around to see if it's a complete edition. Nowadays the "good" ones will explicitly say something like: "complete unabridged text as corrected in 1961." If you want to get a 1961 copy, check abebooks and just browse for the green cloth cover: http://www.amazon.com/Ulysses-Modern-Library-Giant-new/dp/B00BHK5D7C/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1452848881&sr=1-5&keywords=ulysses+modern+library
I'm like 90% sure your Monte Cristo is edited, if not fully abridged. I considered the B&N edition (I gotta admit it's a good looking book), but the Penguin edition is about 200 pages longer, so I didn't feel sure about the leatherbound. The Penguin edition is great (and cheap!), with a solid translation and good, if somewhat excessive, notes. That's a story of which you won't want to miss a page--it's my favorite book (I actually just reread it--penguin edition--a week or two ago).
I hope that helps! Soon enough you'll find yourself developing preferences for publishers and even translators. Oxford is another great publisher, and don't be afraid to branch into used books from abebooks; you can get some great deals for near-new copies--just make sure you filter by "seller-provided images" if you want to see the book's condition before buying it.
Thank you very much for the help!
Looks like I made the right choice with Gravity's Rainbow and War and Peace, so that's good!
As for Ulysses, I checked out the Amazon link and of course as always, when there's something that's good and cheap, it doesn't ship to Australia.
As for Monte Cristo, I can find the Penguin Edition in my local bookstore, I'll be sure to pick it up soon.
Historiography, classics, renaissance and reformation
Reformation, early modern Netherlands, early modern England, Enlightenment
Romantic literature, Hemingway, Lawrence
Modern continental thought
I have loads of other shit on very messy shelves and unshelved on the floor, including moder drama, Victorian fiction, assorted modern British history, economics, and more philosophy. I might photograph it later but probably not.
It's typical of early Schama really. Demonstrates great learning and it's very idiosyncratic, written in a lively personal voice. If you've read The Embarrassment of Riches, you should know what to expect.
uh huh i'm sure. pristine spines on PENGUIN PAPERBACKS (which crease like mad, esp on super thick volumes) and bookstore receipts still in the books. I'm sure you've totally read all of them.
you're on an anonymous afghan llama herding imageboard anon, you don't have to lie :)
i'm actually a big advocate of that and i think it's pretty stupid when people jump on bookshelf pictures with LOL UNBROKEN SPINE UNREAD, but for super thick volumes on penguin paperbacks, it's impossible to keep them looking as pristine as they are in the OP image. and like, come on, the receipts. seriously? he literally brought them home from the bookstore and stuck them on his shelf.
I keep receipts in most of my books so I can use them for bookmarks if I ever read them again. I've read most of the books I own, and I'm not ashamed to own books I haven't read yet.
You'd have to be pretty retarded to assume I'm buying this many books on a relatively small range of topics to brag on an image board. I own quite a few of these because I studied History as an undergraduate at Cambridge - and you don't get first class honours at Cambridge without reading books.
Woah, you went to Cambridge? Awesome dude. Glad to meet a fellow patrician on this board.
I literally can't express how much better my life has been since I attended Oxford. I went to a state school and gradually became the stereotypical moody, withdrawn sensitive type who both despises the quality of his immediate culture and feels a weird pride for having been raised in a sort of anti-intellectual and brutal environment. I was all set to take my Russell Group humanities BA and spend my life working as an anonymous, insecure wageslave forever thankful of being offered a job and forever too insecure to pursue my creative ambitions. The chip on my shoulder had become something of a wedge, and I felt too out of place regardless of my environment, too resentful and bitter to even attempt to make it in the artistic world. Then I finally applied for Oxford and got in to study an English MA, with reassurance that should I work hard enough a career in academia or within one of Oxford's affiliated companies would be almost guaranteed. I turned up as apprehensive as usual, and the first few days were spent regretting my decision and desperately feigning a cultured personality. But then I realized that the people there were just interesting and that the snobbery and exclusivity I had anticipated was just a myth borne out of my working class upbringing. I've since graduated, having spend the year dining in grand halls with groups of interesting people, dating several girls (one of whom, a petite Russian whose family traces back to the aristocracy, is now my fiancee). I work four days a week at a publishing company and earn £38k a year. I regularly meet up with friends from my college and visit Oxford for nights out and for meetings with my professors. The Martin Eden-esque novel I have been writing for two years has been selected for publication at a major British publishing house and, honestly, I could not have imagined a few years ago how great life could be. I come on /lit/ and see how pathetic you all are and just shake my head and chuckle. If I saw you guys on the street I would of course throw you a penny or discuss Bukowski or whatever "realist" writers you enjoy, but ultimately I would be able to tell within ten seconds if you're an Oxbridge grad and would dismiss you as a potential source of good company if you are not. I never thought I'd know what it was like to be objectively better than somebody else, for the value of my existence to be superior to the value of a stranger's, but now I do and I've never been happier. People are awed by power and prestige. All I need to do is mention the university I attended (if only for a year) and they immediately begin to hunch and look at their feet because they know they are in the presence of greatness.
no, that's not it.
only reason i mentioned it was it seems like every time i see capital vol 1 on a shelf its always unread, or has its first crease only like 50 pages in implying they gave up already.
this is funny because capital is shit and it's amusing seeing the proof of anons figuring this out.
I've actually finished Moby-Dick, the Quran, F451, 1984, Brave New World, American Psycho (re-reading it), The Man in the High Castle, both Agatha Christie book, and Catcher in the Rye.
I just like to take care of my books.
>But then I realized that the people there were just interesting and that the snobbery and exclusivity I had anticipated was just a myth borne out of my working class upbringing.
> I never thought I'd know what it was like to be objectively better than somebody else, for the value of my existence to be superior to the value of a stranger's, but now I do and I've never been happier. People are awed by power and prestige. All I need to do is mention the university I attended (if only for a year) and they immediately begin to hunch and look at their feet because they know they are in the presence of greatness.
Just because you're a caveman that lacks the fine motor skills to delicately handle a book without damaging it doesn't mean I never read those books. You're clearly jelly of my shelf, and my erudition. Now fuck off back to r/books -- Unlike you, I'll be reading in the meantime.
>you will never be this poor
>you will always have the income to spend on luxuries
I have a lot of books in Hebrew, so sorry if foreign language might annoy.
Top two shelfs its more books in regard to judism and religion(The Guide for the Preplexed, Kuzari, Bible, St. Augstine, Luther's writing, and other things around the area) the latter its sci-fi/fantasy and technical books\dictionaries
more toward German Philosophy\ Leo Strauss(near the Allan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind)
and art\other things I need more shelf room
You called people that use ereaders "Jews"
You are proud of you're attachment to physical items
You believe that information/education should be behind a paywall
You may be rich, anon, but you are the polar opposite of patrician
>already exists to an extent
Everything in life is objective and subjective simultaneously. Get fucked mate. Some people enjoy the physical experience of reading an actual book. Probably because their parents loved them and read to them as a child....I know it must suck coming from a loveless home and all, but hey what can ya do?
Oh yeah, whine about it on the internetz
No, not to tarnish it, but the translation meme is also just a meme. On the other hand, reading huge swathes of translated versions of great contemporary books where the original prose matters a fucking lot is quite disgusting.
>started reading on my phone/pc
>stopped buying books
cleaner room. more space. less edgy titles for my visitors to ask about. not spending money on books of which 80% i wont re-read.
i was only ever buying books so i can give them to people to read
now i very rarely, like twice a year, order some book i cant find elsewhere and its for college
>having a lot of historical books i'd pay hundreds of dollars (check out the price of cambridge ancient history for example)
>having a couple of gigs on a cloud
>can ctrl+f search for things
>still have a library account just in case i want to feel comfy
isnt 21st century just great
i owned enough that after they filled my entire room and i wanted to have more space i had to give them away (those i knew i wont read), put them in boxes and in basement (those I MIGHT read again but probs not) and sell expensive ones that i had no use of anymore and somebody needed them more. i still do own some books, but i notice how they just stay there and take space. i wish i had a library really.
>less edgy titles for my visitors to ask about
Is this ever a problem for people? I'm a shut in so I wouldn't really know. One time my grandmother saw the Eugenides book I was reading and asked me if "Middlesex" was a place (it was, kind of). That's the only book related awkwardness I've had in recent memory.