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/repgen/ - Repression General - Workout Edition:

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>>8730547
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>>8761688
but transitioning would be a worse life,
and so i'm better off staying cis
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>>8761623
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>>8761737
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>>8761331
>Everyday coming home I pay less attention to my driving.
You could kill other people, don't be so selfish.

>>8761702
Semantics, but you're not staying cis, you're staying repressed.

It's like a gay guy saying he's going to "stay straight" instead of "stay closeted" or "stay pure of homosexual thoughts" or w/e.
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>>8761737
>>8761744
AGP as fuck.
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>>8761774
A better alternative to telling ourselves the truth
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>>8761737
>>8761744
WHAT IS THIS SATANIC MEMERY?
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>>8761782
trutrans will develop agp in repression
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>>8761841
>trutrans
>agp
hahahahahahaha
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>>8761841
I actually liked that pic. Also, why does he look like Bakura?
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Would I have turned out normal if I had teenage romance?

I'll never know :/
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>>8762174
there is always room for love anon
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>>8762184
Eh I'm 22

I feel really alienated from heteroexuality

I hope my bf makes me feel better
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>>8762203
I can make you feel better
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>>8762252
Weed messed me up

Who r u
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>>8762282
Spartan, you need to lay off that weed.
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>>8762300
Im home and clean now
Just fuzzy round the edges
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>>8762174
Ive had teenage romance and when I was in uni I've had amazing gfs who were gorgeous, clever and from good families

you just cant get over adoring them so much you want to be like them, wanting to be feminine and pretty no matter how more of a man they make out of you
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>>8762377
O you think you'll be able to b a normi a
W wife and family?
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You're all scum, if you actually want to repress get the fuck out of 4chan, made me feel a good bit better and now I'm only here to laugh at you once a week.
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>>8762377
did you come out to any of them? how did your relationships end?
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I'm really grateful for repgen (even the early meme threads with anime pics and drunk people). I just realized i don't really have dysphoria, only some degree of agp if that's even real, or maybe i'm actually a faggot. Anyway, repgen made me think twice about it and, being underage, i was just confused after too much internet use.

Its been 1 week since i've sold my trap shit and now i need a way to sell the pills. I hope those trannies buy it here. Parties are dope, having friends too, and the college is awesome. I have no problems with wearing a pair of feminine sneakers or sightly skinny jeans, but i don't associate it with stereotypes.

I know many of you are 20+ and already convicted about being trans, but if there's a young soul here that's confused, the answer is that you're probably not trans. I've been browsing this shit since 15 and that was the problem. I DO like cosplay and some animes, this brought me deep into a spiral i didn't had to go through(traps > trans > lgbt). I'm counting back my steps to /cgl/, hopefully will start gym soon and cosplay as Toyohisa from Drifters. Sick dude.

Is hiking anon still here? I want to thank you bro your advice did help me, by taking my mind away from this shit i could think clearer.

Hey cureanon you're faggot. In a good way. Keep up the good work.

Spartan, i'd recommend you fucking leave this place asap and go live as a normal human being.


Also as an encouragement for the ones convited they're trans but want to repress: If you don't you'll probably look like pic related.
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>>8762560
come out? imagining yourself as a girl, imitating and wanting to be one or to be a femboy is perfectly normal

there was nothing interesting since the relationships were not that serious, one moved to another country, one was too good for me and one was still with her old high-school bf while dating me at the same time... yeah
and I guess I was too agp, to care that much for sex
that perfectly normal too r-right?
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>>8761737
>>8761744
>this will never happen to you

How many repressors would choose to be a girl over being a cis guy?
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>>8763004
Probably all of them if they could have an attractive cis girl body rather than being a hon.
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>>8763032

That doesn't match the "cure" and "it's not real dysphoria" rhetoric from a loud minority.
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>>8762811
hopefully we'll all make it outta here and back to life
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>>8763071
You can't fix not being born a woman. If you trap yourself, you will either have to be out as trans, or lie and fake who you are, your past, your present and of course your future.

It's just as bad as "repression" in the first place. It's not about repression anyway. It's about realizing anything you do won't help you in the long run, so you might as well move forward as best you can.

Dysphoria is hellish to go through, but it doesn't mean we can let it make us our bitch.

Seriously, transition has no long-term proven benefits, it's not just a meme. In the end, you're always back where you started.

Being fake, not being who you actually are.
This is why when you trap yourself, you almost always end up becoming a bitterhon to keep up the lie.

You can't fix the fact society has biological sexes either, and we will always be our biological sex, no matter what we do.

Denying this is just denying reality.

I'd rather be who I am, a proud cis man, with a mental illness that doesn't have a proper treatment, than trap myself and be something I'm not.
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>>8762811
Getting off the pills is the hardest part, in all honesty. If you've been on them for a while, it can send you straight back into dysphoric hell.

This is why HRT is the biggest trap of them all.
Be careful with this one. But you can still do it!

There's always hope out there.
Keep on the good fight.
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>>8761623
Any tips for repressing dysphoria? Things I have in mind are
>quiting hrt
>joining military
>cutting off my long hair
>joining MGTOW and start hating woman and anything thats feminine
>join Alt-right
>stop browing /tttt and anything related to trans
>joining christian gay conversion therapy and repent to God
>suicide
WHAT SHOULD I DO? WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESNT?
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>>8764394
>quiting hrt
You're not repressing if you're on HRT.
Don't trap yourself.
>stop browing /tttt and anything related to trans
This is worth considering if you wish to "full repress", and remove dysphoria from your mind.


>joining military
>cutting off my long hair
>joining MGTOW and start hating woman and anything thats feminine
>join Alt-right
>joining christian gay conversion therapy and repent to God
All garbage that won't work, express yourself how you want as long as you don't take HRT you're fine. Even crossdressing isn't too terrible, as long as you don't trap yourself.

>suicide
Don't do this.

NoFap works very well, if you're commited to it.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Seriously, go 90 days, and then go 2 years. You'll love the difference, but you can't do it if you're on HRT as you're just feeding the mental illness then.
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>>8764416
NoFap cure is a meme. Only if it was that easy, why would anyone need to repress?
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>>8764416
>tfw dont ever fap but still want to get fem and cute
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>>8764465
cd'ing is a thing guys have done forever
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>Repressing by going all sour grapes instead of crying yourself to sleep over not being a girl every day
Plebs.
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>>8761841
This.
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>>8762811
This post is so fucking sad
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>>8764440
It's not a cure per se, but it has incredible benefits, one of which being that it heavily lessens AGP / porn induced fetishism - this will often leave you perfectly okay not trapping yourself. Not in all cases, but quite a lot of cases.

We're still fighting for a cure, and the first step is to stop fapping, and start living, and fight back against the traditional narrative.

There will *never* be a cure until there is enough people fighting for one rather than for people to trap themselves.

Over time this will only grow with dissatisfied detransitioners, realising that AGP/Trans/Dysphoria is forever even if you trap yourself(until we cure it).

Also, NoFap is extremely difficult for quite a lot of people. People are not willing to try it and go the hard route of self improvement. Transition isn't easy either, obviously but in the end it's going the wrong path.

>>8764495
This. There's nothing wrong with crossdressing.
If you want/need to CD, it's pretty much harmless, as long as you don't take it further than the clothes. Don't trap yourself, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to be cute.

>>8764551
How many lives will the tradnarrative destroy before people realise the truth?
Never stop fighting for what is right.
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>>8764584
>Never stop fighting for what is right.
What is right is people getting the treatment they need instead of repressing for retarded reasons
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>>8764584
>still waiting to see what 'fighting' is done in 'fighting' for a cure
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>>8764587

have you thought about how many people in repgen commit suicide every year? probably a lot. There is no way out for me. every path leads to death including transitioning.
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>>8764678
Every path leads to death, anon, it's all a matter of how many days pass until it happens.

Transition, give no shits, and make as many days count as you can and you'll have lived a more fulfilling life than easily half the world's populace.
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>>8763004
being a guy is p great
I wish I could just be a normal guy, fuck this feminized brain thing
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>>8763957
>You can't fix not being born a woman.
what is hrt

>or lie and fake who you are, your past, your present and of course your future.
that's what pretending i'm happy to be a guy means.

>I'd rather be who I am, a proud cis man,
you're not cis. "Denying this is just denying reality."
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>repressing
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>>8764899
Not everyone naturally develops amazing hips with no HRT like that. If I had hips to balance my huge shoulders you bet I wouldn't be repressing.
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>>8763004
I'd choose to be a girl if I could, but that's not an option. One day we'll be able to transplant our brains into new bodies, but right now your choices are male and trans. All the hormones and surgery in the world won't make your body truly female.
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>>8764940
I have told you numerous times Amy
you need to lose the muscle on HRT
they were skinny and had zero musculature
you would look the same
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Im cis straight male, what exactly makes you guys want to be a girl? I don't understand it, Do you really feel you were born female or you just decided one day it would be cool to be one?
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>>8762282
Weed messed me up too, I'm sober at 20 now. I think this is sorta common!
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>>8764899
first pic looked the best, the rest is gross
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>>8764961
these guys are trying their hardest to stay men because of social pressures even though they experience dysphoria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

the causes of it are neurological, probably at birth. which is why it makes no sense for transpeople to be treated like shit by literally everyone.
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>>8761737
Should of stopped at the 5th panel. He would of looked so cute. The best forms are always the ones inbetween.
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>>8764974
I've never seen any of them being treated as shit but thx for the ingo
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>>8765007
info*
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>>8765007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ytwJSvo9E
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>>8762811
Don't give up cold turkey, slowly lower your dose so your endocrine system doesn't go into a tail spin.
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>>8764974
is that a scan of HSTS or AGP and where any brain scans studies on (supposedly since the distinction is not as clear and its not officially accepted) AGPs?
Iv never seen mentions
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>>8765014
Dam bro, that kind of shit enrages me so much
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>>8765014
literally not humans
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>>8765035
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>>8764961
I've wanted to be a girl for as far back as I could remember. When I was in primary school I'd fantasise about it constantly, and do stuff like skip PE so I could sit in the cloakroom and try on female clothes and hope that this time the skirt and tights would turn me into a girl. Keep in mind this was long before I knew what transsexuality was - hell, I didn't even know how sex worked. I just wanted to be female.

I have no idea *why* I'm like this. Maybe something to do with hormones in the womb. Asking that is a bit like asking why you like the taste of a certain food -
maybe a scientist could give a rational explanation, but it's not as if you woke up one morning and consciously decided to find vanilla ice cream delicious.
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>>8765107
How old are you now?
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>>8765114
23. Definitely too old to transition, if that's what you're getting at. Puberty has been and gone.
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>>8765127
>23. Definitely too old to transition
nigger
start now before you regret it when you're 40+ and become a creature of the depths
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>>8761623
Why everybody is nice in this thread,
Successfully mtf here

Bf , job , couple friends
Passing

I never regretted choice ou can repress it for a time but it will always come to you

Good luck
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>>8765132
>you can repress it for a time but it will always come to you

Selection bias. You only ever hear about the people who break and attempt to transition. There's no way of knowing how many successful repressers are out there.
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>>8765127
>>8765114
>>8765107

>tfw above 25

Fuck

I just recently got into the situation where I could start transitioning withouh, yknow, becoming homeless, but im afraid I already will end up like >>8765131

But im also afraid that if I dont do it now, I will try anyways in 13 years and end up even worse
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>>8765167
For the record, I'm not transitioning because I'm scared. If you're braver than me, go for it. Earlier start = higher chance of a successful transition, but there are still people who start late and look fantastic. It's your choice.
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So, I made a couple of posts, and since I guess you guys are the experts or whatever, whaddya think? Critique? Additional advice?

>>8765155
>>8765158

Just FYI, I'm not a repressor, but I can see how it'd be better for some people.
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Also you will always bad when you see successful tranny
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>>8765132
I'm not nice but Im trying to be realistic, just like life. Some get lucky - great for you. Some get fucked over, some have no chance and can only cope.
Passers cant relate.
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Masturbated 12 times In The last 12 hours

Shieeeeeet
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>>8765167
Iktf I'm 24 and scared shitless and don't think I could pass. Worst thing is I couldve probably passed in my teens but I lived with my religious family. I just was meant to fail at life I think.
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>>8765294
I do it a lot but not that much. It's basically the only thing that makes me feel better.
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>>8765294
How is that even possible?
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>>8765232
Isolation is unrealistic and really bad for your mental health (unless you are some super anti-social schizoid personality type). Being forever alone will make you miserable and might kill you before 40 even if you are cis.

Many repressors try army/navy or some purely male job places like oil rigs I guess. But how well does it work? There are still many how crack and transition.

And then personally trying to be hyper-manly is impossible for my non-manly personality/brain (I mean innate traits and not something I developed).
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>>8765378
I wasn't suggesting complete isolation, just from women. I suggested increased interaction with men.

As for dating I guess that depends on which you prefer.

I didn't mean to imply trying to be hyper-manly was a good idea, I know from experience that is highly counterproductive. I should have worded that better, what I meant was that you should foster those interests of yours which already happen to be masculine-esque. Even cis women have masculine interests here and there.
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>>8765378
I'm good a this so long as I have a bf to collapse and let go of my masc role with
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>>8764945
>One day we'll be able to transplant our brains into new bodies, but right now your choices are male and trans.

Allegedly some poster wouldn't choose female even then.
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>>8765378
I actually am completely isolated from people and yeah it probably wasn't the best move but I was having a really hard time coping with being trans and well idk it helped for a time but I do think it made everything even worse in the long run
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I want to suck dick
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>>8764416
Can you show me the proven longterm benefits of nofap for treating gender dysphoria? If not then why should I bother?
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>>8763659
We'll do it sergeant! Keep strong!

>>8763991
>>8765019
Np Bros, i didn't actually take the pills. I was planning to do the final decision in my 18yo birthday but realized a few days beforr the big mistake i was going to do. But yeah could turkey is definitely dangerous specially on cypro.

>>8764551
I don't get why? I was young, confused, and (actually being serious and not trying to meme) almost got meme'd into the trans narrative.

I still think the femboy path is the way for repressors that don't want to transition or have dysphoria/AGP/bdd. But you need to double check if you're not just confused like i was.

And finasteride/durasteride is a must as soon as MPB starts.
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>>8765597
>curehon
>able to cite shit
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>>8765597
Nofap doesn't even have real benefits. It's a cult.
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>>8765622
So wait, you're not dysphoric or autogynophillic? What made you think you were trans?
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>>8765429
its obviously easier if you're gay and you dont need and dont fancy women at all plus being feminine in charterer is more acceptable for gays (fucking straight norms are really nazi towards men suppressing any emotions and 'softness' and I cant get over it)

but then wouldn't you have stronger and earlier dysphoria if you were HSTS
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>>8765378
>unless you are some super anti-social schizoid personality type

It's unhealthy in that case too.

t. Schizoid who isolated herself for years
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>>8765426
You cant isolate yourself from women other that running away from society entirely (and Im neet anyway I still see women every day) or going turbo-repressing route and locking yourself in male-only environment like army.

>>8765519
Yeah I've been a loner neet too, it's comfy but after some years it becomes unbearably depressing not having a life at all.
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>>8765622
>I was planning to do the final decision in my 18yo birthday but realized a few days beforr the big mistake i was going to do. But yeah could turkey is definitely dangerous specially on cypro.

Yes, i'm sure your sudden realization after years of being repressed trans certainly isn't just a phase brought on by pre-HRT worries.
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>>8765700
why do you think that is?
Im not him but Ive had doubts for years, Ive been on HRT which only made me care less and now Im certain Im not a woman and dont want to transition (and no, Im not Spartan)
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>>8765706
Given that you actually tried HRT and presumably have been thinking about this for a while I'd say you may not be trans.

But >>8765622 reads like a repressed tranny who got cold feet right before she took the plunge. I'm worried she's making a mistake.
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>>8765670
>who isolated herself for years
what's wrong with this?
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>we should open a bottle of vodka tonight
>no brain
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>>8765718
HRT is overblown anyway as nothing happens for months and side effects are minimal and insignificant if you are healthy
tho estrogen feels pretty good ngl
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>>8765724
Even as a schizoid I'm still a human with a fundamental need for social interaction despite my general disdain for it.

Anorexics may not like eating but that doesn't mean they don't need to. I may not like socializing but that doesn't mean I don't need to do.
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>>8765670
i know how you feel i became so much more suicidal after a few years of isolation
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whomst repressor is cutest?
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>>8767398
Me
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>>8764587
Transition isn't treatment.
It's an experimental palliative care method that is about equal to suicide.
It has no long-term proven benefits, and no bitterhons correlation=causation bullshit and low quality evidence doesn't count.

Don't trust bitterhons!

>>8764892
See the above ^^
Transition doesn't cure dysphoria.

Quite literally, if you trap yourself and become a girl, even if people see you that way deep inside you will know the truth and it will haunt you until the day you die and realise you faked your existance.

Being trans requires transition. I'm not going to trap myself, ever. Nice try.

There is no evidence that transgenderism is innate in any way shape or form.

And no, bullshit brain studies and low quality "evidence" is not evidence.

>>8764899
<1% result. Also you can't fix height, shoulders, male socialization, male memories, male biology or the fact you were born male in any way.

Nice try, bitterhons. Never trust them.

STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8764945
This person speaks the truth. While I would not choose to be a woman, I'd choose to be a cis male as I am now, there is no option to truly be a girl in the first place. You are either your biological gender, or a tranny. There is no getting away from this. Face reality.

>>8764961
Gender dysphoria isn't something you can explain all too well. It's feelings based, and often a different experience for different people. There are also a lot of subtle signs of it.

>>8764974
Bullshit. [citation needed thst isn't correlation=causation bullshit or low quality "evidence"]

>>8765022
Bitterhons are lying. There is no evidence that isn't total fabrication narrative pushing trash.

>>8765151
This. Nobody talks about the Successful ones (and there ARE many), because they've moved on with their lives. STOP FAPPING, START LIVING! Don't trap yourself.

>>8765294
Your choice. Don't blame me when you end up a bitterhon, regretting everything.
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>>8767442
[so, so many citations needed]
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>>8767442
t. has never cited anything, ever
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>>8765341
Oh it's possible. In the past I've fapped 5 times per hour. I have almost zero refractory.

>>8765437
I'm not a woman. I will never be one. Why would I become a woman?
>>8765622
Good to hear it. Keep on fighting the good fight.

>>8765700
Another bitterhon pushing the meme.
Piss off.

>>8765706
You lucked out. When you trap yourself, there is two outcomes. Your brain rejects the trap, and you're saved, and you're cis, or you get addicted and are fucked. Don't try HRT however, ws the risks are far too high you end up a bitterhon.

>>8767398
All of us. 4chan is anonymous, we are one. Bitterhons and tripfaggots can fuck right off.
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>>8767442
>>8767461
Penis is the cure

I wanna find you all boyfriends who will make you feel loved and protected
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>>8767471
TAKE ME TAKE ME TAKE ME TAKE ME TAKE ME
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>>8767471
I'll never feel loved and protected. This entire world and reality is against my existance.

Getting a bf wouldn't fix anything at all, it'd make things 100,000x worse for me.

But fight on I will, as will all of us here.
I see nothing wrong with the idea of getting dick, but it's not for me personally.

I'm here to fight for the cure.
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>>8767461
>Why would I become a woman?
Because you're AGP.
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>>8767512
Being AGP does not mean I want to become a woman.

It means I have a sexual/romantic fetish which has gone too far, and has become mental illness.

I'm not a woman nor want to ever be one.
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>>8767533
Fulfilling your natural sexuality is not "too far".
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>>8767533
>I am mentally ill

opinion discarded
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>>8767559
Trapping yourself with experimental palliative care (literally rejected cancer meds, extra bonus) fucking up your life forever, and being a fake person all to fufill a fucking fetish is too far.

Also, the fetish is of unknown origin. It may or may not be natural.
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>>8767510
There's nothing wrong with being vulnerable to someone you trust

A big strong man to hold you tight and squeeze you, making you feel wonderful.
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>>8767566
Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness.
If you post here, you are mentally ill unless you're someone coming here to ask questions.
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>>8767580
I trust no one. And never will nor want to.
Also I'm not really interested in relationships, to me they are pointless.
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>>8767588
You can't do this on your own
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>>8767578
>experimental palliative care
>>8765437
>able to transplant our brains into new bodies
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>>8767585
>Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness
[citation needed]
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>>8767616
Even with your meme transplant, you're still faking who you are for a fetish. And I'm sure it'd be experimental as fuck with a high chance of death anyway.
>trusting someone with that unless you're dying
>ever

>>8767611
I've survived my entire life on my "own". And I'm not doing this alone in the first place. Friends are everywhere. I don't need a fuckbuddy.
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>>8767635
It's in the DSM, the book of mental disorders.
You don't need a citation for that shit.

It might be classed as a condishun or whatever now, but we all know ignoring the bullshit politics, it's a mental illness. Period.
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>>8767637
>you're still faking who you are for a fetish.
But that is who I am.
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>>8767642
I a liar asks me to trust them, should I?
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>>8767646
If you're born male, you're not cis, and never will be. Even with a cis body. You will always be trans. Don't bullshit yourself, you already bullshit everyone else if you trap yourself.

>>8767647
I'm not a liar. I have never lied. However, it's obvious you're just baiting at this point so please go back to /mtfg/, bitterhon.
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>>8767657
I wasn't saying you were a liar.
You said you were mentally ill.
Which means your brain doesn't work correctly.
Which means it isn't reliable.
Which means that the things you say aren't reliable.
I thought you would understand that but I guess the mental illness got in the way.
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>>8767642
The DSM is only valid in the US.
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>>8767637
What about true love
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>>8767723
>misunderstanding mental illness this much
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>>8767657
I know I'll never be cis but at least as a girl I can be myself.
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>>8767736
>Not having a response to a legitimate argument this much
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>tfw the deeper I delve into homosexuality the more my trans feels become powerless


Ah I love men I love men I love men I love men
Why are they so good at healing my soul and heart

Omg I'm in love I never thought I get to feel this way and be in love but I am and I'm so happy. I love him I love him I love him!
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>>8765648
I do have some degree, but not sufficient to get meme'd into these kind of things.

Cureanon is somewhat right when he spreads a copypasta about bitterhons pushing everyone into the traditional narrative. This is something only yourself can know for sure and no ammount of "reeeeee just take dem skittles" can push you into giving up everything you have to Pursue some uncertain "happiness".

Nowadays i'm disgusted by the self imagem i've built, hopefully gym will fix this shit soon. Actually this is a good sign: the more slim and delicate i got, the more disgusted i started to feel.
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>>8767735
True love doesn't exist, anon
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>>8768173
It does if you let it
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I'm lazy as fuck and don't even have time to care about my clothes, let alone be a qt make up girl. I also have severe OCD so having to check myself at the mirror everytime and thinking about this shit sounds like hell and triggers my anxiety.

But i still like the idea of being a qt girl

Should i repress? I'm not going to change doesn't matter how much i try.
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>>8768418
Try dating a dominant man
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>>8768441
W-what if i'm not really romantically or sexually attracted to men...?
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>>8768584
>not really
fix that
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>>8768212
extremely cute picture, but letting true love happen is how you end up with heartbreak.

Unless they're cats.
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>>8768418
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
Don't trap yourself.

Seriously, it works.
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>>8769245
Why are you ignoring everybody who replied to you during your previous raid of this thread and starting your spam all over again from step 1?
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>>8769240
you have to take the risk and give love a chance

t. forever alone
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>>8769245
START FAPPING, STOP LIVING!
Transition has long-term proven benefits.
Trap yourself.

Seriously, it works. :^)
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>>8769299
I didn't ignore anyone except bitterhons who were blatantly trolling. Nice try, bitterhon.

Also, I'm not raiding. This is my home general.
Piss off. You Have To Go Back to /mtfg/
>>8769361
[citation needed]
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>>8769387
>Piss off. You Have To Go Back to /mtfg/
But I'm repressing.
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>>8769397
cure anon is all business,
smileys don't apply :^(
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>>8769397
Not for long with the bitterhon attitude you have.
What was your response anyway?
If it's bitterhon don't expect me to reply.
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>>8769403
I am a serious person, that is quite true.
It's about being proud to spread the truth.
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>>8769406
>What was your response anyway?
>If it's bitterhon don't expect me to reply.
So "I didn't ignore anyone except bitterhons who were blatantly trolling" was just a lie now?
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>>8764899
>starts off with female hips
>gets good results
W E W
E
W
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>>8769418
Very rare result, most people who get results that good are actually intersex.
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>>8769418
>>8769494
pics are just 2d, let's see how well they pass in presence of some cis fems

t. passer
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>>8764584

No fap made it much worse for me. Before I thought it was just a fetish, after quiting wanking dysphoria hit hard af.
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>>8769245
Cureanon let's be true here, masturbating like 2 times per week (at max) can actually be healthy. Cum needs to go somewhere anyway, you need to cicle this energy.

I don't have citations but some time ago it was widely spreaded between "NoFap" communities that 1-3days after masturbation, your body it at its maximum energy, then it starts to drop. Masturbating should "cycle" this.

Abscence of masturbation can also lead to the person getting extreme horny and wanting to fuck (or get fucked by) anyone.
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Any afab repressors here? I keep saying I don't want to be a woman yet here I am eating yogurt while having a tampon shoved up my axe wound.
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>>8770811
females cant be repressors because repression is a masculine trait that requires discipline and stoic determination
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>>8770811
Why shove a tampon so your axe wound if you don't need it. Also, how did you get to the axe wound part without wanting to be a woman?
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>>8771066
It's a cis female ftm repressor or something
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How long before cypro is out of my system? I need my t back. Also feels like my breasts are still growing....
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>>8771105
well i quit last month
and i can punch my chest again, and got away with no noticible growth, just soft nips.
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>>8770811
Tell us more about this strange phenomenon. Do afab repressors go over the top girly ever like amabs do?
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>>8771105
~40hours for it to doesn't show anymore in blood tests.

Side effects like sensitive/puffy nipples and testicle atrophy should go away as T comes back. Penile atrophy should go away as you get erections so i'd advise you to get and maintain some erections during some minutes a day.

If any gynecomastia happened, you'll pretty much need to deal with it or research about serms.
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>frued
lol
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we must accelerate our war plans against mtfg
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>>8771088
>It's a cis female ftm repressor or something
i.e. a dyke. I still find it pretty surprising that they exist.
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>>8771131
>go over the top girly ever like amabs do?
You should clarify that you mean that amabs go over the top manly. That sentence was a bit ambiguous.
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the female self can never be allowed to venture on its own


it has to be contained and protected for its own good, guarded by a male self, who will ensure its vulnerabilties are never open to attack by the world
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>>8771416
'K, so what's the big idea, Spartan?
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>>8771535
>Implying you have a male self at all
Costanza.jpg
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>>8771542
we can build one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNcKhfp3Hv4
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>>8771564
We already have, otherwise we would either be dead or on /mtfg/. But to build it we have irreparably damaged our original selves. Think of it like mod, one that you can't really revert.
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>>8770215
It's a porn-based addiction. When you NoFap, it gets worse for a while. Push through it, that's a huge sign NoFap can help you!

You have to do it for a longer time, around 2 years to be cured if it's porn-based which is very likely if it's worse after not fapping.

>>8770766
If you're a person without a porn-based disruptive sexual fetish (key word disruptive, like AGP) there is nothing wrong with masturbation 1-2 times a week, the health benefits are known in that case.

However, if you have the AGP, NoFap for up to 2 years can be the only way to get rid of it, IF it's porn induced (a lot of the time, it is). If ykou have non-porn induced AGP, NoFap can help you find out what type of AGP you have, and how to proceed (hint: Transition doesn't work, so repression is your next best bet).

>>8770839
Pretty sexist if you ask me. Women can repress too!
>>8771105
Cypro nukes T extremely hard. You may need to be patient. Breast growth is mostly permanent, so you may need surgery for that if you have anything noticable.

>>8771416
We don't need to war with them. We just need to point out their shills whenever they come in, and blow them out, with the truth every single time.

Transition doesn't work.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

>>8771535
>its another boy armor episode
The female self doesn't exist. "She" is an illusion.

But building your male self into a god is always the right idea regardless. Keep on fightin'

>>8771723
Every great warrior must sacrifice.
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Hail Blanchard
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>>8771105
Take raloxifene, it's what the femboys do to get rid of boobs.
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>>8772355
Sexism and misogyny are the baselines of powerful masculinity

Women must be excluded and disregarded
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>>8772407
I don't subscribe to anti-women worldviews, but if that's what helps you repress, you do you!
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>>8771416
You're always there, lol

>>8772355
I agree we should stay out of their tranny lives
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>>8772407
I disagree. I think sexism and misogyny are weak and insecure. You don't build strong masculinity by tearing down women.
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>>8771131
>Tell us more about this strange phenomenon. Do afab repressors go over the top girly ever like amabs do?
I can't speak for others. Some of them do go hyper feminine, some don't. It's not noticed as often and they're usually labeled as tomboys.

I wear gender neutral/men's clothing but it doesn't help me pass. I might pass if I cut my hair but I don't wanna do that.
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>>8772662
Yes you do

It's called mr rape and mr domestic abuse
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>>8772709
Why don't you want to cut your hair?
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>>8772709
Another AMAB repressor/questioning here.

I used to try to dress boyish until my late teens, when I realised that it just threw the fact I couldn't pass into sharp relief, and now I dress girly. Makes me feel better to t least look attractive to myself.
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>>8772763
*AFAB, typo

I've been wavering back and forth between "I'm MTF" and "I'm just cisles!" for about five years.
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>>8772745
Cause I like long hair, and I think it can look hot on men.

I have PCOS which is probably a factor in dysphoria, and my body is weirdly androgynous. I'm short with small hands and feet, but I have broad shoulders and narrow hips.
I'm trying to get fit, but I don't know whether to go for a masculine or feminine look.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3JsfkbLKk

>when you suffer through dysphoria but come out immunised thanks to repression
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>>8772818
Get out of my gym
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>>8772769
>I'm MTF
I'm just gonna assume that's another typo.
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>>8772921
fuck I'm tired
yes, I always get the acronymns confused

I am girl
I want to be boy but I am repress
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>>8772924
Why do you want to be a boy?
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>>8772924
Don't worry, being a tranny here is literally acronym hell.
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>>8772998
fucking AGP AAP MTF FTM HSTS HRT GLG CLG /TTTT/ /LGBT/ DESU SENPAI
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>>8773082
forgot AFAB and AMAB can't even get my fucking exhaustive list right
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>>8773091
>exhaustive
You missed out GAMP too. Get more BBL and you'll find tons more.
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>>8773132
Forgot about SRS/GRS as well, FFS, and im sure there's more I'm missing.
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>>8773139
CAFAB, CAMAB, ETLE, BA, TG, TS, TV, CD, DQ
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>>8770811
>axe wound
What's the equivalent term for dicks?
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>>8773206
floppy sausage

>>8773165
the fuck does ETLE even stand for?
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>>8773091
And TERF.
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>>8773244
Erotic Target Location Error. It's part of the actual Blanchard theory that most of the AGPs here don't actually buy into, so it doesn't come up often.
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>>8773206
Cannon

Spear

Manhood
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>>8773257
>that most of the AGPs here don't actually buy into
Wtf, yes we do.
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>>8772968
do you want the full multi-post wall-of text or

Nowadays mostly I because of body dysphoria (I want a more masculine body and a dick), but I don't think it's just a fetish thing, as I often wanted to be a boy as a kid as well, but for completely non-sexual reasons. Since I was quite tomboyish it always seemed like my life would be easier that way, since all my friends were guys and my hobbies and interests were typically male. I read books in primary where girls had to disguise themselves as boys, and it seemed natural to me at that age that someone would want to do that do that, when opportunities for women were so limited, but I was still happy as a girl almost completely got over it when I realised I didn't have to care about my peers and could still act how I wanted as a girl. It got worse again in high school of course, the age when you realise "You can do anything!" is bullshit and others' shitty opinions affect your ability to succeed in life, but I still considered myself a lesbian pissed off at gender roles rather than thinking I must really be a boy, and I laughed at the concept of penis envy because I absolutely didn't want one.

But I started to feel more and more intense dysphoria round about the first time I tried to repress my sexuality and date a guy (mid-late teens). The only way I could stand kissing him was by imagining I was a boy. I guess imagining he was a girl was impossible, since I had the truth right in front of my face (he was fairly feminine but obviously a guy), but the reverse was fine since you can't see your own face without a mirror. At first I just ideated it because I thought if I was a guy he wouldn't be interested in me, or if he was I'd be the one in control and he'd out of his comfort zone instead, but as it progressed I started to get actual body dysphoria from it as well, including fantasizing about having a dick so I could fuck him without feeling revolted (we never fucked, I couldn't even stand seeing him naked).
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>>8773512
Around the same age or slightly earlier I switched from reading exclusively yuri and being unable to masturbate to anything that wasn't pure f/f to starting to read and enjoy yaoi as well, even though I couldn't come from it. It progressed to the point where I read more yaoi than yuri (easier to find, more in-depth plots, and I'm an autist who got super bothered by anatomy inaccuracies in yuri and simply wouldn't notice them in yaoi because I knew fuck all about guys' bodies anyway). So we're clear I'm talking like the fluffy type of shonen ai, not explicit doujins or something...the sort where you get like 100 pages of romcom misunderstandings and 30 pages of extremely censored sex where you never actually see penis, but it was still m/m and I fantasized about it a lot as well, usually projecting into the top but also being third-person or even (after a while) projecting into bottom. I guess I'm somewhat attracted to masculine bodies, but not dick, since I like butch girls and some FTMs as well...based on my experiences in that relationship, I don't think I could stand sex with a guy no matter what I imagined myself as, but in fantasy it was okay because I could imagine it in a way that wasn't as graphic and not really think about dick (I was still disgusted by things like giving head).

That relationship really messed with my head, so I couldn't be sure if I was really trans until I was out of it. However, even 1-2 years after we broke up I was still experiencing intermittent dysphoria, although it was nowhere near as bad as it was. I wasn't dysphoric all the time but I had periods of dysphoria so bad I wanted to die every 3-4 months and spent long phases being really miserable, then would have a few months where I had no issues with being a girl at all and knew if I had started T before then I would have regretted it.
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>>8773543
Since I'd noticed dysphoria was triggered by certain things I ended up getting a lot of really avoidant anxious behaviour in university to avoid situations that made me feel inadequate as a girl...some healthy (cutting sexist dudes out of my life, not trying to date men) and some unhealthy (I stopped going to my university's LGBT society because being around confident, happy gay guys and passing FTMs made me jealous, and I stopped wearing boyish clothes because it threw how unpassable I was into sharp relief). I hadn't before but I started styling my hair, plucking my eyebrows, shaving etc in university because I'd given up on being able to pass. At least looking like my idealised cute girl made me think I looked pretty/hot when I passed a mirror, whereas wearing boys clothes just reminded me I was a poor imitation (IMO I'm too short and weedy to pull off the butch les look well either so I couldn't go for that even though I find it hot).

I didn't feel dysphoric as much around girls, so for ages I thought I'd be fine if I got a girlfriend, but after a few years I realised these feelings still wouldn't go away, which made me feel more conflicted - aforementioned aversion to dicks means I don't really like dating bisexuals, but my own preferences and desires for maybe roleplay make me too bi for goldstar lesbians, and it feels embarrassing to cop out, find someone else like me and embody le fujoshi transtrender meme, especially since I would be one of *those* tumblr ftms who is otherwise girly since I now have a lot of feminine hobbies.
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>>8773570
Honestly I'm not against the idea of transmen, but I'd like to repress because I'm too petite to pass and wouldn't want a non-functional bepis anyway, and I'm not dysphoric 90% of the time (other than the last week or so, the last time I got it bad was February, I've had a pretty good year). Plus being a dick-hating lesbian means I'm disgusted by heterosexual sex, including if it involves myself as a ma - if I transitioned I wouldn't enjoy watching a girl with me even in the third person, but also wouldn't be able to function in an m/m relationship even though I have AAP levels of fetishising gay men because I hate dicks (at least they just does nothing for me now rather than making me viscerally disgusted like when I was a young teen). I don't want a sexless life post-transition but I'm grossed out by the idea of involving a girl in a mock-heterosexual relationship rather than a pure lesbian one so I'm stuck.

I'm also disgusted by the thought of my own body if I age as a man...I feel like transitioning would give me ten or so years of happiness and then after that I'd rather just age as a woman. I'm already in my 20s so it's pretty late anyway, but if I had known what I do about transition now when I was 15 or 16 I might have bit the bullet. I still feel unsure as I know that T could amp up my sex drive and help me get over the hurdle of fucking a girl as a guy, and it might fix my dysphoria on its own without me needing to socially transition if my brain really just needs the right hormones

sorry for spamming, I know most people don't give a shit but I didn't want to leave anything that could be relevant out, I've been confused about this for years. like, am I fucking up my self-image by trying to repress my lesbianism? or am I actually kind of bi and fucking up by trying to repress that? am I actually trans? am I something like genderfluid which is why I go so long without wanting transition? I don't fucking know
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After long night shift I started cracking beat this thoughts out of me
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>>8773692
it's ok to want to be a girl
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>>8773609
>hates dicks
>wants a dick
>couldn't stand seeing boy naked
>masturbates to yaoi and fetishises gays

autism is no joke

why have you never tried a lesbian relationship when it sounds like you wanted it
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>>8773789
I know it sounds retarded as well as convoluted, that's part of why I'm not keen to tell people about it.

I tried. Was desperate for a girlfriend in high school but was already being bullied by my entire year group for being gay at that point so no girls would go near me. First year of uni I lived at home with homophobic parents, then had to go back in all the holidays (they live in a shitty redneck town with no lesbians anyway). Second year I moved in with friends but one of them was a "nice guy" who got psychotically unstable when I rejected him, kept threatening to kill himself etc. I was already busy so I didn't see a point in riling him up by bringing a girl back to the apartment so I just bided my time until I could get out and move in with other people. Third year I started using dating apps trying to get a girlfriend but there weren't many girls I was interested in in the area and I got like three dates that went nowhere before giving up to focus on my studies since I was working two jobs and barely had any free time anyway. Hoping for a girlfriend next semester.
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>>8773512
What was it that made kissing him as a boy ok but as a girl unpleasant?

>>8773543
>usually projecting into the top but also being third-person or even (after a while) projecting into bottom.
How did you feel about each of the three ways you projected? How do you project for f/f?

>>8773570
>situations that made me feel inadequate as a girl
How did those situations make you feel inadequate as a girl?

>At least looking like my idealised cute girl made me think I looked pretty/hot when I passed a mirror, whereas wearing boys clothes just reminded me I was a poor imitation
So seeing yourself as feminine isn't inherently dysphoric but failing to pass is?

What is your appreciation of your own prettiness/hotness like?

>and it feels embarrassing to cop out, find someone else like me and embody le fujoshi transtrender meme, especially since I would be one of *those* tumblr ftms
What's wrong with that even if it is a stereotype? You wouldn't be a tumblr ftm anyway if you're not an SJW special snowflake. It would be more like lesbians who enjoy roleplay.

What are your feminine hobbies? How much of a tomboy are you now and what are your masculine hobbies, etc?

>>8773609
Why was it bad in February?

Hating het sex even if it's only het because you're male seems very strange.
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>Post old trap pics in /b/ to see what happens as i'm going to delete them all now that i'm a successful repressor
>Get called flat
>Been overthinking this for a day now

I thought i didn't care?? Even when considering the femboy path i didn't wanted boobs and shit... Fuuuuuck
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>>8774064
>deleting your own trap pics
>ever
>also implying you're successfully repressing
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>fully convince myself that I'm not trans and living as a male is the best thing for me
>get drunk and now I'm a sobbing mess

I'm reminded every day that I would have passed without a problem if I'd started HRT all those years ago, but there's absolutely zero hope at 28.

How do I cope?
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>>8774089
Take revenge on whoever stopped you starting so long ago.
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>>8774098
Take revenge on myself, got it.
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>>8774107
Look further afield.
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>>8774076
What is your definition of successfully repressing bro?

Mine is carrying on with life towards a stable career and living small moments of happiness in the bar, wich is what i'm doing nowadays. The only time i lose it, i come here to remind myself what i'm fighting against. Sadly there's still some time left to shitpost besides work and college. I hope i find a way to change this.

>Not deleting your own trap pics so you stop remembering of this shitty part of life

>>8774089
STOP DRINKING, START LIVING

But seriously, some people feel happy when drinking. Some people feel relaxed and just enjoy the sounds of nature (this is why i love alcohol) but some people end up a mess and start thinking of things they shouldn't.

If you're the last option, stop. Get some sleep.
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>>8774122
keeping yourself from "losing it" or having free time because it depresses you isn't success.

>bro
please don't misgender me.
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>>8772849
if cell = repgen does that mean gohan = mtfg?
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>>8773722
If I would think the same I wouldn't be on repgen
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>>8774470
I think that and I'm here.
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>>8774549
Why are you than repressing
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>>8774089
Seriously, what this guy said.
>>8774122

Alchohol abuse is unironically worse than trapping yourself. Nothing wrong with the occasional drink, but don't drink just to get blackout drunk.

STOP DRINKING/FAPPING. START LIVING!
Transition has no long-term proven benefits, and has many health risks. However if you're drinking yourself to death, in all honesty you'd be better off on HRT and not drinking.

If there's one thing I disapprove of more than trapping yourself, it's drinking. Unless you want an early grave. The start living part is most important here.

How you cope is how the rest of us cope. Fight through it. Life is suffering, get used to it. Find meaningful goals to pursue to better yourself. NoFap is a great starting point for many reasons, not the least of which being it builds discipline and can often outright fix AGP / manage it down to tolerable levels.


Find a cause to support, if you have no goals to pursue and don't wish to stop fapping. Mine is advocating for the cure.

If you're going to resort to binge drinking. you'd be better off trapping yourself in all honesty. Better hon than dead, just don't fucking become one of them whatever you do (bitterhons).

>>8774170
Bro/dude/guys and stuff like that isn't really gendered. It just means a cool person.

>>8774198
/repgen/ isn't Cell. We're more Vegeta than anything else.
The enemy may be in our minds, but there's one thing a saiyan always keeps.. his pride! (Or her pride if FtM).

>>8774470
It's okay if you're FtM, otherwise it's a mental illness. Let's fight for the cure together.
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>>8774608
t. confirmed liar >>8769410
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>>8774614
You're a bitterhon who is also blatantly baiting/trolling.

I'm not lying. Anyone who says bitterhon bullshit is a bitterhon to me.

Now enjoy your reply, /mtfg/. It's the last you'll get out of me. Come up with a better bait.
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>>8774608
I'm agp. It is with me since ever, but get much worse in the last few years together with anxiety. I went from best student with potential of great academic career to dorm drinking legend who is slow with last two exams and 90% finished m.a thesis. Anxiety and depression around it is hell, and I have to hard to accept agp and reconcile with self image.
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>>8774645
t. lying curehon unable to defend her lies
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>>8774649
STOP REPRESSING, START LIVING

Don't hon yourself. Repression has no long-term, proven benefits. Don't believe curehon bullshit.
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>>8774678
Lol I have literally no desire to be woman outside sex, but I can't get aroused without it. And yea I would look hon slready lol
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>>8774649
have you tried anti anxiety meds?
also HRT helped me with anxiety (I suspect I might have typhoid issues but Im too scares of blood tests to check)
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>>8774649
Anxiety is an extremely common symptom of dysphoria, along with depression. Suffered and struggled with this for a long time myself. The best thing I can tell you is, you don't need to trap yourself to get rid of this. You need to find a cause to pursue, you need to find goals and mraning in your life, and you need to find things you enjoy apart from AGP, drinking and fapping.

It only gets worse over time unless you are willing to abstain from masturbation, abstain from alchohol and put serious effort into pushing through your problems.

You can get back to the career you deserve, without HRT. It's a right yes, it's a atruggle yes, but you can do it, I believe in you.

First step is to get the tranny thoughts out of your head. You're not a girl, you never will be a girl and that's that. Make a concious choice to never trap yourself, and to never give up or suicide either. From there, do your best.

It'll always be there unless it's porn induced which is quite common, but NoFap helps regardless.

Best of luck, anon.
>>8774662
See how /mtfg/ and other pro-transition shills constantly raid this thread and slander me?

Just ignore this bitterhon.

They push their narrative because they're bitter.
They also claim I'm a liar, but do nothing but lie. Turn your damn trip on and tell the truth. Bitterhom.
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>>8774723
>They push their narrative because they're bitter.
>They also claim I'm a liar, but do nothing but lie. Turn your damn trip on and tell the truth. Bitterhom.
How are you so blind to yourself?
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>>8774717
This is also a good idea, minus HRT.
HRT does have anti-anxiety anti-depression effects, but at the cost of who you are and trapping yourself, giving in to mental illness and never ever being able to find true happiness without detransition. Don't trap yourself.

Long-term, transition has no benefits.

However anti-anxiety medications are an option worth considering.

>>8774716
Exactly this. This is classic AGP. They are trying to basically bullshit you into thinking you are a girl on the inside and to join their narrative cult. You're not a girl, you're a proud man that's lost his way. You can do this, you just need to keep fighting. NoFap do a hell of a lot for you. Anxiety and depression is crippling, but even the crippled can do amazing things.
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>>8774730
I'm proud man. Problems is that this thing is fucking me so bad that I can't do shit and am wasting my life. Without it I would probably be full professor soon and also keep my guitar playing. Now I spenf most of my time smoking and getting distracted
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>>8767471
>tfw only a man can give you want you want because most women are repulsed by feminine and submissive guys
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>>8774760
Why would you want a female

Only a man can make you submit
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>All of this macho bullshit
This is just sad.
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>>8773512
>>8773543
>>8773570
>>8773609
Interesting. I notice females with dysphoria tend to get ignored, because most of the focus is on males, but if we want to understand this thing fully you'll have look at both gender's experiences with dealing with their gender issues.
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>>8774750
You have to fight against it, as best you can. It's horrible, but you have to keep going. Push yourself out of it, force yourself if you have to, to get out of the hell. Get the enemy out of your mind. Get off the smokes if you can.

Whatever you do. Don't listen to bitterhons.
You neee to find motivation, goals, little goals.

Standard life stuff, get away from the tranny shit. Better your life and work on it as if you aren't AGP, forget it exists. Move forward, stabilize yourself, then find a worthy goal to pursue. If you can't find one, then you can always post here and fight for the cure.

Everyone struggles with their vices. Pick one, if you have to, and move forward. If you smoke, don't drink, fap or do anything else than smoke once every so often, less than once a day ideally.
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>>8774604
Because it's not possible for me to be a girl.
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>>8774781
The FtM's aren't ignored per se, but not much focus is put on them admittedly - as far as we know, the mechanisms for FtMs are different to MtFs, and there is far fewer of them.

A lot of posts here are more about "support", than anything else. Bitterhons look to people like them, and often the other gender doesn't "feel" like the same as them.

Real, actual studies and knowledge are next to impossible to actually come across because of the traditional narrative. The very first step is getting rid of it, and opening up science before we can actually find the truth.

We do look at both sides of the gender divide, but as we know, AGP/Trans/Dysphoria is predominantly male, as is 4chan as a whole, which also comes into play here.

The main focus of /repgen/ is more about pushing back against the bitterhons, than anything else.

There's also, admittedly a lot of sexism, due to said repressors becoming super masculine, regrettably. But this is just how it is.

I wish the best of luck to you.
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>>8774774
I don't know am just attracted to them, but i've never had a gf and am 25. I almost did but it was either I did approach her enough or lack of interest. I can also say my mental stuff including dysphoria (pre and transition) has kept me from becoming intimate with someone else.

I closet to a gf I got was a butch bi girl. But because of being the homebody i was I didn't take the chance to go with her. I suffered from anxiety, depression and low self esteem.

I had guys approach me, but I wasn't interested, back then I really wanted a gf, now i'll take anything.
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>>8774800
This is also true. What people don't seem to realise is that you aren't actually becoming a girl (or a guy if FtM) but you're just becoming a tranny.

Sex change is impossible. You can only go male/female to tranny.
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>>8774814
Mtf might be close enough for some. Maybe it would be for me if I passed or if I was guaranteed the perfect SRS. But those are impossible and even more impossible is my real dream of actually being a girl.
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>>8774787
Good answer, thanks man.
I would need some anxiety meds perhaps something for concentration too. I study philology and it is high demanding study and also carrer if I will made it at the end. Till around 2014/2015 I was still highly functional than it gradually got worse, I failed to finish study in minimum time and position of assistant professor at uni, I also quit band since I was unable of steady practice.

If I do manage some return to normality it would be awesome, but problem is, that I worry that I won't be able to keep normal rečatioship with some girl in the future, as I literally can't get aroused without agp anymore.

About vices, I'm heavy smoker (heck I smoke since I was 14), and get drunk 2 - 3 times a week (white wine mixed with sparkling water for life!). I'm 101 day of no fap today btw
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>>8774778
To be honest, I dropped my macho attitude like a month ago. It made me extremely miserable.
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>>8774832
Yeah, anxiety will be an issue, concentration is also difficult, but both can be helped through standard bettering-your-life techniques (plenty of material on youtube for this sort of stuff if you're lacking in any way).

Yeah, relationships as an AGP are going to be a problem. Personally for me I'm ace without AGP, so that may be something you have to consider.

The decline is very common, it's when the AGP creeps up on you and makes you go over your "stress threshhold" as such and you just break down. The best thing to do is just try to better yourself and climb out of it, remember the things you want in life.

Great to hear it about NoFap. Passed 90 days, amazing work. Keep at it, and yeah your vices are pretty long-term in regards to smoking. I'd say try and cut down on the drinking to start off, and then if you wish, to slowly bring down the smoking to a more reasonable level. (Don't have to stop, that's up to you, but I'd reccomend focusing on that soon enough).

Put the money you save on smokes/drink towards your future, and pick your life back up as best you can.

You'd be surprised how much money you can get just by cutting out even a small amount of your vices.

Overall best of luck, I'm heading off now.
Don't let the hons get to your head!
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>>8774845
Nothing about being macho, really.

Nothing wrong with letting your emotions flow and being a feminine guy - just don't trap yourself by any means.

It's not masculine or feminine to improve your life and better yourself, to stop fapping and start bettering yourself. It's just what you gotta do to survive. Many women are extremely hardworking and proud.
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>>8774868
I'm regarded as masculine but in though working class macho sense, but like masculine prof or smth
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>>8774608
>The enemy may be in our minds, but there's one thing a saiyan always keeps.. his pride!
so you blow yourself up for no reason after being controlled by repression and then you admit that /mtfg/ will always be better than you?
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Im still fapping to sissy/feminization hypno every day, nothing else makes me feel good
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>>8774926
Is that an analogy with all the "majin" thing, all that stuff before Bu?
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>>8774933
Hurts you tho
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>>8774962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7C0R3DdOfk
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>>8775176
I was right, I see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0K4zx7gWZg

you stand upon the battlefield of your mind.

the demonic monster rises from the ground

you steady your sword and charge...
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>>8774089
Just be a gurl anon.
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Why don't FTM repressors date MTF repressors? This way each one could live through their partners and ftms could be the dominant in the relationship while mtfs could act feminine and submissive.
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>tfw you thought it said /rapgen/

>tfw you were about to drop fire
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>>8775820
I want this since I read a post about an MtF repressor who dated a represssed FtM.
>>8775827
lol
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>>8775820
desu that's the only way i can see myself dating anyone cause cis girls give me dysphoria and i'm jealous of cis guys
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>>8775820
I think they already do. Natural attraction. Some of my exs had been butch women that said they were "gay men trapped in a women's body"
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>>8775820
Yah i feel like it's the only way i could get a romantic and maybe sexual life going on...

For some reason the only kind of attraction i feel is towards women who dress kind of boyish (hoodies, sneakers, these kind of things and not overly-feminine clothes). Like my ex. I'm also too submissive and girly for a normal relationship and as i'm already 18, i doubt i'll change. "Manning up" at the gym sounds disgusting.
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>>8774608
>>8774608
>but don't drink just to get blackout drunk
I don't get blackout drunk, usually. I'll stop at brownout.

But in all seriousness, I don't have the drive to do any of that shit, and from experience, trying results in suicidal thoughts and tendencies and it's all just not even worth it.

Probably just gonna sit here and continue lurking IHP and ADC and humor myself with the thought that I could totally just do it, and then in the same breath tell myself that I shouldn't because I'm a MAN and MEN don't do that shit.

>I'm a MAN
That was uncomfortable to type, and rereading that is painful.

>>8775445
Yeah I'll get right on that.
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>>8775159
hurts how? at least I dont do drugs and try to minimize drinking but I need my 'fix' and sexual release, yet porn does nothing for me
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>>8776291
>(hoodies, sneakers, these kind of things and not overly-feminine clothes)
Baseball caps with long hair, board shorts at the beach...
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>>8761623
http://inspirobot.me/
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>decide to lift weights since im supposed to be repressing
>end up training for olympic weightlifting, so most of my workouts are either lower body dominant (squats n' stuff) or explosive movements that barely add mass

i swear i dont plan on taking hrt guys

I SWEAR
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>>8776638
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>>8776663
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>>8776638
>>8776680
Yours are rigged you mtfg shill
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>>8776685
what did they mean by this
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>>8776700
Mine are better
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>Have to be doing something 24/7 or suicidal and tranny thoughts get to be too much to bare
Being a repressor sure is fun. I wish I just transitioned when I had a chance life sucks.
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>>8776899
If you are from this possition it sucks. If you repress from other reasons one could take pride in it. If you are agp with nondesire to be woman outside sex it is your only option
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>>8767580
tfw 5'9, I will never be a small spoon
tfw even stealth trannies only get one night stands because cis men always settle with cis girls
tfw I will never be stealth
tfw can't stop skittles
tfw suicide is inevitable
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>>8777127
Well hold on. You're on skittles, why post in /repgen/? Do you want to get off them? How long have you been taking them?
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>Tfw 5'7, literally god tier lower body genetics, god tier lower face, but massive Brow, Browbone, fucked up hairline, dead eyes, giant nose and ribcage fucks up everything

Can i hab a ticket to repression train? I'll never have resources for ffs and i'd rather not be a hon.

Not feeling like lifting weights tho...
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>>8777262
>Not feeling like lifting weights tho...
I think Sparty-boy is the only one here who does, I think most of us feel miserable when we try to compensate. Also, who's that on your pic?
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>wanna cry
>remember it's only 4 days till I see him again
>feel better
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>start going to a psychologist to get therapy for the first time
>after a month she almost forces me to answer why I don't choose to transition
>I have to consciously admit that the sole purpose that I won't transition is that I wouldn't pass and society would treat me as a freak
>this results in me having another mental breakdown the next day

I didn't want to admit that society's perception is the sole reason that I won't transition. Please give me a better reason.

Because of gender dysphoria I can't even eat like a normal human, eating is suffering and a daily struggle.

How do I continue to repress if repressing makes me unable to eat? I am almost skeleton tier.
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>>8777543
>Please give me a better reason.
The health impact and risks of HRT, loss of fertility, loss of genital function, loss of functioning endocrine system.
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>>8777543
There comes a time in every trans woman's life that she can't stop pretending to be someone she's not. The strongest can last a long time, but dysphoria comes for them all, in time.

Keep going to therapy anon
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>>8763004
probably fucking all of them
i would in a heartbeat, hell i'd even take being a passable tranny, but that's not gonna fucking happen
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>Winter is coming

S.A.D better not fuck up my return

Better buy vitamin d tablets to be safe
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>>8777561
I can't even eat.

Give me a reason greater than these.

>>8777566
This post literally gave me a boner.


How the fuck do I keep control?
I have to keep control.
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Man I smoked way too much weed last Sunday, these after effects are not fun
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>>8777566
d/a, i don't deny what i am
i just know it's impossible to be it
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>>8777575
>>8777584

I used to get boners in my therapists office. It's just how shy, introverted, neurotic, et al trans women deal with being repressed. Society is gender obsessed and has stuffed you in a box you don't want to be in but don't feel you can ever escape.
My walls held up for a very long time but my life kept falling apart around them. I was getting closer and closer to drinking myself to death. Anon you can't hold it in forever
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>>8777605
Yeah but what happens if you successfully repress again after you breakdown and it all goes back to normal

Even quitting hrt

I win
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>>8777617
Do you think you can successfully repress for the rest of your life?
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>>8777605
i'm not holding it in. i know i want to be a girl. i know i'm trans. hrt and presenting female won't work.
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>>8777605
You do not understand. Scratch that, you do understand but you don't want to help me to repress.

I already made the wrong choice of not destroying my family by not coming out and repressing myself into a skeleton ride that never ends. I have repressed much more successfully than everyone else until now. I have literally never crossdressed nor wore a female piece of clothing in my entire 23 years on this godamn planet. My family has broken completely apart the past months. They proved to be complete sociopaths.

I gave up my greatest desire for my family, and my family betrayed me.

I have come to the point where I literally can't eat like a normal human, I already played the game of life and already lost.

Family has been my greatest curse.

I have repressed so successfully until now that the thought of transitioning now that I am past the point of passing with my hyper masculine face is unbearable.

I have already lost, I am just a shade.

I know it's the gambler's fallacy.

But I literally can't transition. My past self made sure of it. I am become pain.
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>>8777624
Yep

I really scarred myself mentally
Making me afraid of hrt
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>>8777649
>23
oh you sweet summer child
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>>8777617
This. I broke down, I kept repressing and now I don't even want to be a girl anymore. I can't even understand myself a few months ago, it makes me feel repulsed.
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>>8777649
>I have literally never crossdressed nor wore a female piece of clothing
I'm actually as good as you at repressing.
>My past self made sure of it
Also, this.
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GET for one day being girls.
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>>8777758
I feel the exact same

It's like a separate entity was in control then

>>8777777
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>>8777779
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>>8777791
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>>8777543
Its a valid reason, we cant escape the society and we dont want to be treated like shit.

I had a breakdown myself after trying to assert my options and what being trans implies, that was one of the worst days of my life. The next day I've concluded that its much easier to repress and that Im fine as is, I've killed my dream but its better this way.

Last time I had good appetite when I was still on hrt, I actually enjoyed food and it had a purpose of giving me more pretty fat. Now I dont care.
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>>8777779
We are not girls. We are men! Proud men.

STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
Don't trap yourself.
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>>8778671
t. curehon the liar
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>>8777758
>>8777791
eventually reality kicks in and you realize that you're not a girl
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>>8778696
Im not a girl. Im just a mentally ill guy.
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>>8778696
>he thinks reality is what happens in the body, not the mind
Anon...
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>>8778682
>t. baitposter the baitposter
Don't you have a life? Even I take breaks from this place.

>>8778710
>>8778696
This.

Reality is the truth, don't bullshit yourself, you're not here to fake who you are. You're a man, that has a mental illness.

Fight it, and be proud.

>>8778716
We have a mental illness. You cannot always trust your brain, either. When you're addicted is a prime example. We have to fight ourselves quite a lot, everyone does.
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>>8778726
proud of what, that Im a defective loser?
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>>8778760
Be proud of being superior to all the other patients who ended up on life support while you can walk around free
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>>8778682
Why liar. I think he is only rational. Perhaps for true trans repression is really hard for agp is necessity. Sadly some of us are fucked beyond good taste. Can't get aroused without agp, happy with being man all other time
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>>8778760
Be proud of fighting rather than caving into it and transitioning. The illness itself is horrible, but it doesn't have to be a death sentence.

>>8778810
This. Rejected cancer medicine palliative care methods are not the choice we choose.
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>>8778832
Exactly this. The thing is, most transitioners aren't rational, and that's why they do everything they can to slander my viewpoints.

They have to support their own lies by calling others liars.
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Might kill myself this weekend. All previous coping mechanisms are failing, alcohol and weed don't touch it anymore. The only thing that makes me feel vaguely like a man and forget about dysphoria at this point I is when I'm making out with a girl, but sex itself makes it worse.
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>>8778869
TRy men
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>tfw the only sane humans here

The true redpill is realising that only men can think and anyone on estrogen is on the level of an animal unable to reason or be truly alive


Create a barrier between yourself and females

Dysphoria can't touch you
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>>8778869
Don't use alchohol or weed.
You need to fight this head on.
Have you tried NoFap? Whwtever you, do don't kill yourself.

Don't try to forget, prove to yourself you are a man. STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
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>>8778810
>walk around free
I might as well be a cripple on life support, Im effectively dysfunctional

>>8778835
I feel like total shit, when I still had faint illusion that I have a chance to transition or at least become more feminine I had a reason to live, but now its all gone.
I cant accept myself for who I am as a person or as my physical shell and my ugly face, Im scared to shave because I know staring at my reflection would make me suicidal again.
I have problem speaking because I cant stand my voice. My selfimage is so fucked that I cant socialize, I feel like everyone sees as a freak same way I see myself. And everyone can see it, people notice that Im not ok, I look sick and distressed all the time. But I cant tell anyone whats wrong with me.
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>>8778976
I prefer not to delve in sexism, personally.

But whatever helps you repress, anon.
For me personally, sexism doesn't work, but NoFap + Advocating for the cure does.

Keep on fighting!
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>>8778983
It's kinda freeing

After the whole paranoia of being on hrt

I realised such a gift it is to be normal
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>>8778983
You have to fight back against it, however impossible this may be for you.

I believe in you, you need to fight.

You may be dysfunctional, but you're not lost. Not yet. Don't trap yourself, or suicide.

Transition is an illsuion, as you aren't becoming a girl, you're becoming a trans.

It also has no long-term proven benefits.

You din't have to accept yourself as who you are. Work towards bettering yourself, and realise who you are is not defined by your physical self.

You aren't a freak. You just need to find a reason to live, and a way to push past this.
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>>8778984
If you don't place females below you and see yourself as superior for being male you leave yourselves susceptible to dysphoria
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>>8778994
It is freeing, to make a concious choice to fight and then overcome your mental illness.

It's a difficult road, but your choice is between dooming yourself and giving up, or fighting the good fight.
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>>8779000
There are many repression methods, sexism is just one of them. Quite a strong one, but one that is known to break down and end in a collapse back into extreme dysphoria, especially in emotional men which a lot of AGPs are.

Be careful, and do your very best to hold onto that.
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>>8779000
I had to convince myself that women are inferior to get over bitter envy
but Im not a man either, I feel inferior to both and cant enjoy the advantages either sex has
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>>8779004
Any method of repression really fucks me up. I'm at a weird point where if I don't try to repress I'm just fine.
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>>8779004
The only alternative to misogyny is feminist rule

Trannies didn't exist in the days when women knew their place

Men were kings and had benefits and privileges women didn't
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Shouldn't we make a new thread? We've reached bump limit.
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>>8778965
Not interested, the thought of kissing a can makes me gag. I actually get a pre-dysphoria feeling hard on when I kiss girls, it almost acts like a time machine taking me back to a point before I was so fucked up. The feeling never lasts though. >>8778965
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>>8779052
Hmm

First time I kissed a girl I had a emotional crisis and scared me off them for good
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>>8779047

ok

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>>8779060
>>8779060
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>>8779056
Hmm, maybe I'm not truetrans?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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