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old thread >>5574102
I'm honestly not delusional and i'm sure anyone who has seen me can confirm.
broad shoulders, huge jaw, caveman brow and manly eyes so I need ffs at least.
this threads a little garbo honestly
and im not helping
yeast infection or not you're deluded if you don't think you'll be more vulnerable to UTIs in general.
context - the EU has let vast swathes of people from culturally backward countries swarm into our own, people who have immediately established a disproportionate propensity for attacking transwomen. if you bury your head any further in the sand you might become an arab yourself.
Kayla. I've tried to like you. And you can ask anyone. It's easy for me to like someone. But your constant negatively is tiresome. A lot of people have it worse than you. But you keep at it. You pass fine. Your voice sounds fine. You need to actually try to improve before things will improve. You can't be negative all the time.
>it's partly a side effect of hormones changing how the stuff between your legs works
We never talk about this here so what exactly changes? Also I bathe religiously, I must have got it from my hot tub because I had ran out of pool chemicals that week.
7 inch deep bellybutton to the bottom pls
Heres my 20k bb
No srsly shud not joke or she thinks its real
Not that great thats true but will miss it p soon after you dont get it,
i swear guys and dicks empower 1/4th of my days, also the confidence boost tht you dont even realize having from it
already, girls? ALREADY?
>"after you don't get it"
>surrounded by cock
>I think you may have successfully alienated yourself from mtfg
I have always be hated here because I keep it real.
>God damn you are so fucking stupid sometimes
so now its semi moist dick skin? I want to know what you are talking about like explain it to me what actually changes the tissues with srs?
It's pretty much a mental illness at this point where people have completely lost the ability to be discerning. The few people who support the initiatives and aren't hopped up on white guilt or disregarding standards altogether seem to be very naive.
These are the same people will will unironically accuse me of being racist, even though I live in one of the most multicultural parts of one of the most multicultural countries in the world, and I've lived with and worked with pretty much every race all my life. It's hard to keep ignoring the conspiracy theories when you see the results that have been engineered for popular culture and their effects.
among "anti-hugboxers" and other dumb stuff
idk if she's being dumb i really think we should just ignore her
it didnt work a few years ago trying to talk to her so why now
theres a correlation between being trans and being rly fucked up and having a lot of fetishes i think
then again im kind of a normie so dont ask me
ye what a shit thread
>tfw therapist wants me to go to a game night and discussion group for trans & GQ people on campus
The thought of that got me extremely nervous, christ. I know I won't be the only one still presenting as a guy or assigned gender or whatever at these events, I'll still feel like the odd person out. He seems sorta insistent on it so I can actually meet trans people around here
>tldr, pic related shows you can't even google when there's a free vagina on the line
Yes let's keep going, covered California is the name of the program, and web site, that links people who are not covered by medi-cal with insurers.
What the fuck does this program have to do with california using the funding and wording from "obamacare" to allow trans girls to get free srs through both medi-cal and the health care exchange
You basically said, mc Donald's isn't giving out free cheeseburgers today because you need money to have a car
>You need to make an attempt to better yourself
Oh I know I do but its so fucking hard to get a grip. My social anxiety is worse than ever and I can barely go inside the grocery store let alone talk to anyone or ask for work. And without money I can't get into therapy. I just want Xanax at this point.
I mean, I've never tried, but if she were comfortable with it I could give it my best shot.
You don't know the suffering of having dick around for ages and then suddenly having no access to dick. I'm so pent up that I'm having trouble focusing in class and am just thinking about lewd stuff ;~;
It literally changes to be like a mucous membrane, it's nothing like dick skin
I know. It's hard and it sucks. I'm in the same situation. But regardless you need to try. Going out in public could be a first step. And as for therapy, insurance covers therapy. Just use Google to find one to suit your needs.
You don't but why would you want friends when they're lying cunts?
You should check out this really awesome website for trans girls I found. They have a lot of people just like you, really similar fashion taste. I think you'd get along great there. It's called Susan's Place? I don't know if you've heard of it.
Kayla, its time to stop posting and time to move on.
You need to move forward. standing still at the crossroad yelling at the passerbys is not gonna get you anywhere, you've taken a few steps already but you cant stop.
get out of these threads, go out and get a job in whatever mode you prefer, sitting here replying to me or the others/trolls wont do shit to help yourself get any better.
>get a lawnchair or patio chair
>sit and watch traffic, drink lemonade
>wear sunglasses, big hat, dress, light amount of makeup
>smile at boy who checks you out as he walks past
You can get armies pretty cheap when nerds inevitably flail their way onto the latest gimmick.
Oh. Well I'm sorry to hear that. I don't actually play 40k, even though I own a box of stuff for bits purposes. It is pretty much the most pervasive miniatures game though so its the most likely to pop up.
Alternatively you could get into a scrub deck for Magic the Gathering pretty cheap, or play one of those myriad flight miniature games that are popular - star trek, star wars, etc. Honestly if you're trans and want low hanging fruit of social acceptance just go to a game store and hang out. As long as you're at least 20-40% passable you'll be treated like a goddess.
Yes I have one thats what I've been saying
This is a good suggestion to. Infinity, Malifaux, all those little squad games are pretty neat. It also gives you room to explore your creative side and painting, which can be effeminate I guess? I think the majority of accomplished painters are men, but I know there's a supportive undercurrent to the tabletop gaming scene populated by female minis painters/players and con attendees/cosplayers.
You can pretty much use your male and female aspects to their greatest effect and build a solid foundation to move forward.
People are awful and say the most stupid shit to make you feel better, you'd be better off just getting a cat.
quick search inquiry. a lot of these suck and assume the reader has more money than you probably do, but many actually are cheap or free.
here are more
Susans place is only good for people just getting into crossdressing. NOT for trans girls.
You're far better off staying away from them
>are you a doctor?
>bitch please, all of you 40 year old men in dresses should feel privileged to have a trans girl here
your analogy is as retarded as you are
you can try and talk around my statement (you have to have certain income to qualify for covered ca /obamacare) as much as you like but doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG
this is utterly false >>5575464
you can't get blue shield under covered ca if you're a neet with no income
Original statement stands then, you don't understand biology. I'm surprised you actually know this little about SRS though, why are you obsessed with getting it when you think it's like a little penis pocket?
Then pack up your psychic vampire black hole of self hatred kit and go to the beach or something. A local park. You don't even need to sit in the middle in your fishnets showing your ass off to everyone. All you have to do is find a cozy place and read a book, and incrementally adjust yourself to the reality of social interaction. If anyone comes and talks to you just blush and be totally embarrassed and they'll probably be nice to you.
There's some weird guys there but I mean, I've been here for a week and mostly I've seen a bunch of dangerously depressed people shittalking each other and revering people who have either killed themselves or like eat shit off dildos and stuff on live cam.
Diamonds in the rough exist. If they weren't hard to find they wouldn't be worth anything.
I do know about it and I know the truth about it. I get it that most of you want it to be something it isn't but the fact stands that penis skin is dry and vagina skin is moist and folding the penis skin inside doesn't change the structure of the skin itself, its cosmetic. Doesn't mean I don't want srs because I do, very badly.
>You look like a dyke
Is this the new top tier hugboxing?
Even cis people do it.
I'm honestly getting fucking mad at these hugboxing cunts.
The truth about skin is that it takes on the properties of where it's located, if you graft skin inside your cheek it won't become mucous membrane, but it will lose its horny layer and be pretty damn similar. Same goes for a neovag, it feels nothing like a skin pocket.
I'm done now
They sometimes (at the request of the patient) will put a small section of intestine in the SRS vagina and it will continue to secrete mucous to lubricate the vagina.
The problem is that it doesn't stop secreting mucous even when you aren't horny which makes for a messy vagina.
Tfw you'll never make love to ZP theart while riding a horse over plains of ice
Parks are for everybody. Most prominent landmarks are on parks. Sure you could go be a trans sports star if you want, if you are still able to perform well.
There's nothing stopping you ( that I know of ) of biking around doing drops or whatever the fuck you guys do with a helmet on, then ripping it off for some WHOA FUCK Samus Aran moment. "Are you a guy or a girl?!" "I'm trans and I just fucked your shit up noob." Have attitude. Play hard. Hop up a cliff on your back wheel like my cousin used to do. idfk
>tfw i'll never lose my horny layer
also, um. is it true neos smell?? or is it just a rumour spread by people who don't shower enough? sry if too personal
i'll be on irc again for longer later tonight !
Someone on /b/ a long time ago said they had SRS and had to wear pads all the time because of it. That sound miserable but whatever makes the person happy. I know plenty here want SRS, its just too bad it isn't a perfect surgery (not that that would really exist anyhow)
Well this cis scum is talking about the 3 years old pic from the front.
Honestly hugboxing is disgusting.
It doesn't change function. They developed buccal mucosa techniques for cis women with shallow vaginas because those cells will mimic some of the properties closer. Even that technique has some trade offs and it was never developed for transgender patients. The skin will never change functions to what you wish or believe your body to be whether you have surgery or not. The microbiome wont transmogrify either sadly.
>Parks are for everybody.
Not in America. Here in the US parks are for rapes, drug deals, and homeless people. Last month I went to a park to eat some lobster tacos I bought and the park was filled with homeless people so I was like fuck that and ate in my truck.
Anyone one here order from QHI? I'm just wondering how long your mones took to arrive??
I placed an order 5 days ago. I know it says it can take up to 15 days to arrive, but I didn't think it would really take that long seeing as they are based nearby.
But that's not entirerly true, her thoughts and opinions on srs can't be taken seriously because there is a conflict of interest there. People with srs will say only good things about it regardless if its the truth or not because they don't want to hurt their own feelings. The fact stands that srs may work and be just fine but no its not the same environment chemically as a cis vagina.
>I've never heard of a lobster taco before
WHAT A FUCKING PLEB
i ordered like 4 days before they closed for christmas so i had to wait longer, and then it took them a week or so after re-opening to process their orders, but the mones arrived incredibly quickly after dispatch.
I dunno who you are but everyone hugboxes so bad, isn't even the first time someone makes this shit up to make me feel better.
i ordered mine on the 15th, sent in my forms they wanted yesterday on the 18th (which they will have received today) and they emailed me letting me know they'd be dispatching it as soon as they receive that. so my guess is friday or this coming monday i'll have it. uk too fwiw.
The sigmoid colon technique is supposed to smell really bad. However, I have been told that my vagina smells pretty much like a cis vagina, at least when I'm taking care of hygiene. I can't comment, I've never smelled a vagina. Post operative documentation said that the biome is less diverse, but comparable.
Explain why the inside of my vagina is pink if you're such an expert then. You need to remember that even specialised cells are pluripotent to a certain extent.
Just shut the fuck up Kayla, an associates degree in bridge building doesn't make you a biologist. Until you get a job you'll never be able to afford a vagina anyways, so it's a moot point arguing with you about it.
>talks shit on me all the time yet is a self medder
The argument Kayla is making isn't as retarded as the trips dropping their trips in this thread. Kayla is saying that crab sticks aren't crab meat. She's saying it doesn't matter how great you make your crab sticks or how pink their coatings are but they'll never be the same thing as genuine crab. She's not wrong about that.
>Just shut the fuck up Kayla, an associates degree in bridge building doesn't make you a biologist. Until you get a job you'll never be able to afford a vagina anyways, so it's a moot point arguing with you about it.
I'm not arguing or talking smack on srs. All I said is that it doesn't act like or have the same environment as a vagina.
i'm 500% cuter than you without even touching mones yet (which is the case, btw~)
nothing you do will cure your terminal case of ugly. enjoy being a disgusting, manly, unpassable mess forever.
I'm like 3 weeks into HRT and ever since I've started I've been super conscious about everything I send and tweet online. like people that I used to message without problem I avoid like the plague. to the point where I go silent for days
like wtf is this? self awareness?
You are such a petty piece of garbage that your only argument against me is my looks. Well duh I am ugly or else I wouldn't even be posting here, but ripping on looks is fucked because its not like anyone has any control of how their fucking bones grow.
Everyone but me would go.
I would be the last human on this planet and it would be amazing.
And what is so good about you? If you want to bash me on my personality I would say you are more ugly inside than I could ever be, at least I don't openly try to insult people, I try to make points and follow them. Every post you ever made has been to shit talk me.
JUST DO IT! FILTER HER
So do a lot of other people in much less incendiary ways. I have her filtered, you should too and perhaps we can have civil discussions instead of the shit flinging that comes with Kayla.
I never claimed that a neo vag is identical to a natal vag. However, the differences are minor, and I can absolutely confirm that even if the inside isn't a mucous membrane, it's so damn close that it doesn't really matter.
Kayla is making the argument that a neo vag feels the same as if you turned a penis inside out because "skin is skin", which is ridiculous.
Pic related, because self lubrication is real to a minimal extent.
I'm not going that far but we're talking about the skin on a cellular level. There is no reason for it to transmogrify to a perfect analogue of the female reproductive environment. The argument is the same LalaLoopy stuff everyone has refuted in better times.
>Well duh I am ugly or else I wouldn't even be posting here
>you have to be ugly to post in mtfg
is this a new meme
>Did you tell you are trans publicly?
I subtly dropped it to like 3 cis bi fems who were already aware of my effeminacy. other than that, no one else "knows".
maybe that's it, but I was already pretty sensitive before since I was already into things that were typically seen as "girly" or "not masculine" and got a bunch of flack for it.
maybe it just made me even more sensitive to everything in general?
Maybe they have a high stake in believing what they want to believe. We all know the meme every trannies SRS surgeon is their god. That's great if you and Larry think you have cis vaginas now but not all of us have drunk the koolaid just yet. False advertisement can get fucked.
my lease is ends soon. by the first of march I have to move out.
I have offers in seattle and san fran. hopefully leaving portland. haven't even looked for apartments around here. aria is moving in with her bf, and idk what my other roommate's plans are.
so if you're in either of those cities maybe, but internet people are spooky.
ok ok actually gonna go bibi
And I tell them how it feels. What do I have to gain by lying to them? If you don't want SRS, or don't feel that I'm telling the truth, that's your decision to make.
>scat fetishist cam whore tumblerina gets orchi before I, a by the book tranny
screw mtfg for now
Why am I so fucking manly? ;_;
Like it's crazy just how much puberty fucked my face up.
What are /mtfg/s opinions on this?
Even if you're the type to be vehemently against "spreading your defective genes" or whatever, would you want to do this just in case things change?
Technology will overcome all obstacles.
Though I'm unsure about the potential family dynamics of a trans household. On the one hand I feel like its pretty risky, but on the other hand I feel like its hasty to judge trans universally based off pop culture pushing it in a disgusting direction. Trans themes have been explored by humans since basically the dawn of time, so it's not like this is a unique phenomenon.
I don't mind trans people having kids. I'm just skeptical about people who enjoy shitting themselves having kids.
So my first day of school/class/teaching as a girl went well and i guess i'm like, really, really fulltime now
Why don't you just answer the question? It isn't some kind of GOTCHA! I've been told by people that not all women have it, or it isn't noticeable. A couple of girls I've fingered, if I curl my fingers and massage the spot pushing out towards me it drives them crazy. I don't know/care if that's the mythical gspot or whatever but it works.
Do SRS vaginas have that? Or do they just focus the nerves in the clitoral region? It's just a neat topic of discussion.
i still feel it would be naive to hope that technology in the next decade will make that kind of childbearing not only possible but affordable and widely enough available to be of use to us.
and i know what you mean about family dynamics. it's something i'm still trying to work out in my head.
you can't equate being transgender to a fetish, for one. and it might be easier to hide a fetish than to hide the fact that you're a fulltiming transwoman.
put a request out for the DIY orchi instructions maybe?
Yes and No. I agree to a point, there are certain "universal" fetishes like light bondage that aren't likely going to change the way you parent. However, there are a lot of fetishes directly tied to emotional or physical abuse that can manifest itself against children. Those kinds of fetishes can be reasonable cause for worry about the quality of child care that will be afforded.
Sure. It's definitely going to be expensive either way, either for the person in question or for the state. Ideally I think we should put money towards research that will correct gender development before it reaches the stages of being a problem. To that end I view homosexuality and transsexuality as short term problems ( in the long view of history ) or hurdles to be overcome scientifically, with the state affording the same care and treatment as you'd expect for any other kind of imposition. This logically is contingent on the transsexual urges being of a biological nature and not the result of fetishes or abuse etc.
Yeah basically. Apparently upcurved dicks and dildos are great for that reason. I have never heard conclusively what that's all about because every time there seems to be a consensus some uppity scientist somewhere releases a contradictory study.
Agp is a meme friend.
If you have doubts about transitioning go to a gender therapist.
>HUGE jaw and chin
>fat big nose
>tiny man lips
It hurts to live.
that is the most bizarre ad hom claim i have ever seen aimed at caterpoller. where on earth did you pull that from?
i'm not saying you SHOULD hide the fact you're trans from your kids, no. if you're going to have kids you would have to be honest about that. but the point i was making is that in general fetishes CAN be hidden from your kids in a way that allows you to present as just an average parent.
children of a trans parent are going to constantly be aware of that at a time when society still hasn't fully accepted it, and where it could make life harder for them.
and as much as we may disagree with the affixing of socially prescribed gender roles to one's innate gender identity, i still think it's important for a child's emotional security to have parents who set an example for all such roles, and non "heteronormative" relationships make that a lot more difficult.
we eugenics now? o-okay. i don't get how you reconcile that with "being okay" with trans people being parents tho.
oh yeah. and in a way i think it's even worse then, i imagine like if you're a kid whose grown up from day one with a trans parent, you get used to it as the status quo. but then all these poor kids are just entering adulthood and this person who was their father figure growing up suddenly flips and becomes a hon and it's like sweeping the rug from under their feet.
Den Mother checking in finally.
Anyone happen to see that new web series that premiered yet?
I'm gonna watch it at some point. I'm just curious if others have seen it already.
Jew noses aren't that bad, mine is a like jew plus extremely fat manly nose.
>tfw huge feet and hands too
My view is that there is no moral component to transsexuality where it concerns people being affected by hormonal changes or abnormal brain development. Given there is no moral component to their activity, it is immoral to judge them or preclude them from necessary medical care. Similarly, it's immoral to judge or preclude them from the goals of any just citizen - a good home, a good occupation, and a good family.
In viewing it primarily as a medical condition or disposition I consider preventative medicine the best option. However, we must reconcile the preventative techniques of the future with the coping mechanisms of today. In this fashion we can both secure the rights and interests of contemporary transsexuals whilst eliminating or minimizing the occurrence of their disposition for citizens of the future. It's the exact same stance I have on homosexuality, basically.
but i mean given time on hrt and the bare minimum of ffs and i'm pretty comfy with my face. you win some you lose some.
fair enough i guess but i mean i was really pro eugenics too until a year ago but the more i thought about it and read up about certain conditions, the more i thought, it's really risky when the medical community doesn't even really understand the etiological mechanisms of so many conditions and how they relate to one another. at best you could be reducing diversity in the gene pool, at worst, eliminating a disorder at one end of a bell-curve like continuum throughout the general population might cause another disorder at the other end of that continuum that we didn't even realise was related to spike in occurrence.
at the end of the day i think we can let the selection process run its natural course. lgbt folk are already far less likely to have kids than others so... yeah. given that you'd think if it were a simple fix, we would have seen at least some decline over the last several thousand years of documented lgbt behaviour, but have we?
Mine is like deformed and super fat at the tip and then I have like a massive gap between nose and mouth and super tiny man lips.
I just want it known that I see your continued survival as a short term problem on a societal scale.
I am, however, very sad that however close you are to it on a cosmic scale, you were born at the wrong time to get a round of 7.62 in the face.
Same except I have the widest jaw i've ever seen and the biggest browbone.
>They're just one of those people that debates useless shit that they are not going to impact,
/lgbt/ is a low activity and unmoderated compared to /pol/ so crossboard trolls from there take advantage of that. Especially with the "If you faggots don't vote for Trump then i will gas you and even if you faggots vote for trump i want to gas you anyway faggot"
Ah well that's disappointing. I sincerely hoped for an alternative to punitive laws and unjust marginalization. Well, ever the optimist, I'm going to continue hoping there will be a breakthrough.
>anons complaining about me posting then tugging my cock
>same anons post about being hons and then tug their cock
Welp you guys showed me
Its my huge caveman brow and morning bangs at least.
okay. no need to make me cry. i think i've endured enough for one day. it's been very emotional to say the least.
Of course it's not just dysphoria, i'm pretty realistic.
I think I want to be a cop, they are hiring new recruits in my area and I want to pull over people that don't use their god damn turn signals and beat the fucking life out of them.
If you don't use your signals when you drive I hope you get hit by a semi.
why do you say something new that's even more psychotic literally every time i come back to the thread
like how do u manage to continue to top urself
If the job holds off much longer I might be the one driving that semi.
My only problem is that officers with long hair have to keep it tied at all times. But I guess since I am one class away from a criminal justice degree I might actually get a desk job with the police.
I was licensed for the 5 ton and large buses back in the army. My grandpa used to be a trucker and to this day I still keep a CB with me wherever I go. Trucking is basically the ultimate fallback of sorts. Sure it pays well. And I wouldn't mind being on the road again.
Also I end to be very sympathetic to issues faced by the trucking industry.
Why'd you give up being a driver?
>I still don't believe you Lainanon
Well you can see the brow and deep set eye?
I mean what else do you need.
Yeah I am very smpathetic towards the trucking industry too, that was part of the buisness my parents owned. Reason why I stopped is because I was sick of people on the road. I did the short haul earth moving and mostly did it over public roads so it was a nightmare at all times. I had my class A but decided the headache wasn't worth it. The pay was amazing though.
I can't really explain why but I want to be a Jew.
Is it even possible to be a tranny and convert to Judaism?
Would the 'real' Jews even accept me or just barely tolerate my presence?
I think everyone hugboxes me. Friends, family, my partner, other trans people, random people on the Internet, hair stylists. Everyone is a liar trying to make me feel good about myself. I'm disgusting, physically repulsive. Everything about me is off, I'm so near but so far. Uncanny valley. They suggest I have BDD but that's a cop out pussy answer.
your negative point-scoring is just... don't, don't reduce things to a competition of how hard any one of us has it compared to the others. it's grating and disrespectful ffs.
but yes, their skin is flawless...
Like gorilla tier?
5´10" and 16" shoulders no hips and massive feet and hands.
A bit chubby atm because the last year was a mess but working on it.
i've always liked sheen, it's a shame she doesn't post as much as i would like. i mean how dare she actually have a life?
you really do have a disorder if you truly believe that. people don't have a reason to lie to you. people in the real world don't give a shit about hugboxxing you. if someone says you have nice hair during a haircut, you probably do and so on.
whats the difference between being queer, and being bi/gay? I feel like I could be queer because I'm a straight guy who likes girls to have sex with him like he's a girl.
i'm not denying you the right to whinge about your flaws but when you say people shouldn't feel insecure about themselves because you have it worse, which you do ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it's actually infuriating.
you're invalidating everyone else's insecurities just so you can feel justified in your own, it's selfish and insensitive, stop it you thick bitch.
I really don't understand what to call being trans and wanting to be a sub fuck toy for just about anyone whose cute, it's just that most people can't keep up, and straight girls are easier, so I end up just daydreaming while platonic cuddling my gf.
yay for blanket terms
that's completely untrue and you should know better. society has never given a shit about anyone's delicate sensibilities. i've been outright told to get the fuck out of some places because i don't pass. people have hung up phone calls or refused to serve me. if that shit starts happening to you, then you can self-loathe all you want.
the majority of it was when i was looking around for shared accomodation. they discriminated against me because i wasn't cis. i've also had certain services hang up on me because of my voice. my internet provider hung up when i called to get my connection repaired because my name didn't match my voice. they literally said 'but you are a man'.
I imagine it's kind of like those girls who think they're super ugly. There's no real way for them to build self esteem without having someone to help carry them along. Like leaning on someone when you have a broken leg, until you're well enough to walk on your own.
There are certain delusions about self-acceptance ( or lack thereof ) that extend well beyond dysphoria. I am sure you are intimately familiar with dysphoria, but it's worth keeping the others in mind. Many cis women go through their lives chasing after surgeries or self-destructive coping mechanisms because they have poor self-esteem or inaccurate beliefs about themselves. Hugboxing is a bad behavior imo, an enabling one if you will, because it doesn't address the core problem. Genuine opinions by contrast are helpful, even when they are congratulatory. That's not to dismiss the value of the occasional white lie of course.
In the end if you're incapable of thinking for yourself logically and sanely, maybe you should find a buddy and get them to help you. I suppose a therapist would be the best person for this, but friends can work in substitute as long as they're good people.
I just don't like seeing attractive people depressed over minor things is all. I get that stuff is triggering. You just have to recognize that most triggers are a symptom of a sickness. It isn't real.
she does this thing where she rubs my perineum really hard and fast, which doesn't really do anything for me, but its cute and shows shes trying.
she also might come out as bi/queer by the third year of our relationship! who knows?
>Tfw always look fat bcus ur fat
I wanna believe but I think you're just being sweet
Aww that does sound cute, surprised it doesn't do much for u though. That areas pretty nice.
Doesn't she play with ur boobs and stuff too?
I hope she does come out and improves for you because you deserve more than what it seems she's doing desu
I know you're trying to understand but Uhm it really is hard to
I started right after my 20th birthday.
Do what you have to do.
I just realized how much of a faggot I am. I like penises a lot and I just kind of just realized how much I like them. They can be on girls, guys, and xirs and I will like looking at them as long as they are cute.
I suck dicks, that is all.