▶Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
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▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/00000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
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ah fun, shaving is a pain in the ass, time to grow a young Stalin beard and get my hair trimmed
In all seriousness, what do I do if my husbando dies?
Well so much for teaching programming.
Just fuck my shit up senpai
So by nerdy you mean handsome men that pretend to be nerds but probably didn't have a background like that at all?
with hair definitely, i love that style of shaved sides hair + beard that seems to be popular these days
he still looks gorgeous though
I kind of hate myself for this but guys with top knots are really hot
. . .what?
double wha?? I was just being accused of being transbian now I'm gay? I guess bi doesn't exist
But imma girl and there's nothing wrong with being black m8. Isn't it a bit early for edge posting?
>Some trans person added me on facebook, she wanted to talk about trans stuff
>She started DIY at 16
>She was able to because of her friend who also were trans
>She is stunning now, 9/10 face and body
>I didn't wanted to DIY at young age because 'it's too dangerous'
>Started DIY anyway at 25
>I'm a total hon compared to her and her friends
Fuck my life
>When past this thread like five times looking for mtfg because I kept assuming this was gaygen from the pic
So I should be holding progynova(I get it off ADC if that matters) under my tongue and letting it dissolve instead of swallowing it right?
Fuck this shit kids everywhere said "let's do this" and now have a happy life and I'm gonna have miserable life over this fucking mistake I did.
Oh I wanted to be a good boy now I'm good man.
>sleep through alarm and miss first class
W-well off to a great start
Anyone knows if epilation cream works on genital areas? I really hate body hair but shaving with a razor down there is scary/sketchy imo
But I've read somewhere that epilation cream can burn you in the genital area, is that any true? Did you try it yourselves?
but I'm already a 7/10 male anon, I could spend that money on all kinds of useless crap
Kayla please take a moment to read what you post and consider real solutions to your problems instead of jumping the suicide train. despite the drama you get into here I'd prefer you think rationally I'd like to see you make it
Idk no matter how hard I try I never can get every hair off, there's always some sticking in some skin folds (not that I'm fat, but if you don't have folds on AMAB junk you're lucky as fuck and also abnormal lmao)
I guess just more practice then >_<
Liz, hons can't make it.
That's just a fact of life
Some people are just not meant to transition and should just live their lives as male and not damage the community further with their horrible transitions.
>tfw not sure if hyper masculine manly man or kind of andro and could pass with a voice and some changes to clothing
it's like you don't even read what people post before responding, I don't need a personal parrot
not with that attitude you won't. apply for jobs and don't consider anything below you. start there and them move forward
I'm alright, I get my lenses on monday/tuesday. how about you?
Idk, I'd like give a platonic kiss to like circe or anna or shannon
yeah that's part of the bait
I may hate myself but it has nothing to do with any of my genetic background, well ok I guess wherever I got that gene for inadequate serotonin stuff from could be argued to have something to do with it
i guess i will just wait for a boy to kiss... me then ._.;
I'm more scared about the razor cuts part of it, but yeah on my lady balls
That and I have absolutely no idea how to shave behind dem balls (aka ads crack etc), my spine isn't made out of silly putty?! I can't bend all the way there so I thought about epilation cream
One person has said i'm andro, maybe two.
I've gotten feedback from like 5 people total including my mom!
And here's further prof on the bone in my chin in regrew back to being square and masculine
You can't make this shit up
What I do know is that you're miserable leading your life as a forever unpassing hon. It doesn't really matter what your self perception is because you need to break the cycle you're in and just TRY something.
Yeah but I would kind of like to get better habits before I enter the workforce. Can't be a bad employee and fall back on good grades. ;~;
Nice glasses ^^
I'm doing alright, just sort of slogging through the winter weather. I have to dig my car out of the snow today ;_;
Did I do it wrong? ;~;
Don't believe the hype, kissing boys is fun.
Well i've only showed people a three year old pic and then I got hugboxed by a shrink.
Showing new pics is spooky because I don't want to know how bad it is ;_;
I could believe it, if someone can have their leg bones broken into lengths with rods holding them apart slightly so the bone heals a distance to extend them I could absolutely believe that filed back bone could attempt to recover
>I have to dig my car out of the snow today ;_;
there's one reason for me to be grateful I don't get snowy winters here
again? I mean aside from all the dumb "LOL she has a dick lol rofl did we mention she has a dick???!!!lol" the trans character that got married was one of the most functional characters on the show, like one of the examples of normal people to contrast the ridiculousness of the gang even more
Maybe it's just not meant to be, not everyone can pass, I'd rather keep doing what I am doing than be a super hon.
At least I have icecream.
This is right attitude to have.
I should've realized this before I transitioned
I know, but I'm definitely one that aspires to the peon life. It seems comfy, allows you to focus on stuff outside of work etc.
Not being a peon tends to be more interesting work so far as I've heard though so tough call. ;~;
Get a job or do literally anything that will allow you to get on it?
Neet with no real life and constant escapism is probably better than being a super obvious hon man thing that gets bullied and stared at constantly.
I think I'm better off still having job prospects in my country and avoid social isolation rather than become some middle ground thing with my cromagnon skull etc. I'm all for supporting the trans community but some of us just shouldn't and that is up to the individual to choose.
Don't forget to take your "epic" "not trans" meme with you
Apparently i'm andro(hugboxing) but way too manly looking to try to present as a woman.
Surgery is required and maybe that's not enough.
I think I'm the same unfortunately, I've had a few online friends and some people irl say I pass but it doesn't seem true, even worse I have a gic appointment on the 18th and I'm worried they're going to be annoyed at me for not doing more
sorry, it's reaching "real nigga hours" here and I can't find that like button so I can't smash
Okay i'm ordering the stuff for my DIY orchi, what else do I need?
I honestly have no idea what I look like, even if I really try my hardest to figure it out in the mirror.
Sometimes I think I look feminine and that my face is alright but most of the time I look like a man beast, can't really trust what the tranny shrinks say either because they just want to give me confidence to go full time probably which is a good idea but i'm fucking pathetic.
I'm doing it, my mind is made up, I can't stand these things between my legs and I can't afford for a doctor to do them. I have been watching orchi vids and read a lot about it I think I am fully capable of doing it, I just need some heavy duty antibiotics.
I can't take it anymore, the thought that I have testosterone in my body is making me cry on the hour every hour. The fact that someone else did it successfully gave me hope that I can too. Also I bet no one will ever doubt my transness again.
ur not real trans if you don't transition no matter what
I have the exact same problem, it sucks so much I find myself constantly checking reflections in windows when I'm out to see if I'm ok
I'm probably not, otherwise I'd wouldn't feel the urge to check
All those years ago, /cd/ set this chain of events in motion with that image macro didn't it?
If you don't transition, then your gender doesn't change, right?
"Trans"gender, trans being a root word for change. Trans gender = changed gender.
Therefore, if you don't transition, you're not trans gender.
Well I need it done and I don't have thousands of fucking dollars for medical care. Shit, a year and a half ago I had to do home surgery on my finger because I got a piece of steel lodged right next to the bone, it healed up fantastic too.
Me too tbhon.
Hopefully i'm andro at least ;_;
>tfw it's impossible to get honest feedback and I can't trust myself since hugboxers say i'm delusional and stuff
>tfw no honest not hugboxing mom
Trans doesn't actually mean change, and the better word to use is transsexual since gender is so vague.
even if trans did mean change the biological facts do not point to anybody being about to change sex or gender, we are born with female brains and whether you do or don't transition doesn't change that.
Trans as a prefix I think means across, but we use it more to mean what it means in chemistry which is two opposite things linked together (in our case brain and body)
Are you okay?
Of course if you take steps to change your gender even if you can't take hrt then you're still trans. But if you stay as your birth gender presentation forever then you aren't trans, by definition. I don't see why that's a bad thing.
Hey guys I'm going to continue presenting as a male, use a male voice, male mannerisms, wear male clothes and keep my facial hair. I'm still a real gurl though right?
Fucking end yourselves and get out of this thread you creepy fucks.
why do you think we call people cis? it's a latin prefix like trans is, transsexual doesn't mean you change sex that's impossible right now, we live as men then live as women but we were still women before transition.
At least you have a nice fashion sense from what can be seen.
How am I a psycho? I am sick of T blocker, it makes me feel like shit and I worry all the time if its not working. Every person who I have seen that had an orchi ended up feminizing even more and way faster than just with T blocker alone. Plus it would be nice to save my liver.
if you're getting dysphoria and your brain is constructed in the way a woman's brain is then you're trans, suppressing it doesn't make a difference.
the gender roles you adhere to don't make you a man or a woman, your brain structure does.
How to figure out what I look like?
How to try passing when scared of meeting people you know?
Can't trust mirrors and can't trust people who are nice.
I should've went to sleep earlier, I got a haircut tomorrow
Night /mtfg/, have a good one
That is so nice to hear. One gets tired of rainbow socks being constantly posted here.
sorry but if you're going to come in here and lecture people about what it means to be trans and get everything wrong then it's probably you know needs to stop posting and do some research into transsexual brain chemistry.
I bet I started my transition before you, you crazy fuck.
do you really thing it's putting on women's clothes that makes you a woman?
it's what's in your head, and telling people who haven't started their transition yet that they're not trans is just ridiculous, as if you can see into their head.
some gender binary person invited me, she asked for contact information. shes pretty cool and is more geinubne about activism bull....
>tfw neighbor calls you he and talks about meeting cool girl he met online to go and play arcades with
>tfw always called a he
>I don't who get wear awful shit like rainbow socks
Let's not point any fingers.
>tfw really thick long hair that gets fluffy no matter what I do and it's very windy where I live
End this suffering.
I don't want to de trans, I feel like I am not making enough progress like everyone else here is all. For some reason all of you grow hair like six inches a month, have big or tiddies, have slim waists and pretty faces, all the while I just got fat and grew moobs. If I could lose the testosterone then I might actually end up feminizing faster.
i hate myself so bad right now, I wish my hair would grow faster
So with laser hair removal for facial hair, how many treatments does it take for effects to be noticeable if you had pretty thick facial hair normally. I get that it can take like up to 15 treatments for max results but is it a gradual reduction each time and stuff or what? Also I know laser doesn't remove everything and you may still need electrolysis, but if you have really really dark black hair and really really pale white skin will it pretty much get it to a satisfactory level? I get pretty heavy prickly stubble within like 2 hours of shaving, it makes looking nice for more than a few hours virtually impossible. I have a consultation for laser next Wednesday so I'm pretty hype for that, I just feel like shit whenever I touch my face or my face brushes against anything.
Ah ok, so is she looking for more perspective?
Some people take a long time to get used to a change like that or say things without thinking, I know it's depressing but it may have been unintentional habit. You don't have a "he" look about you
I have really dark hair and very pale skin, took me like 8 sessions but I still grow some blonde hairs I have to get rid of, I had a visible beard shadow before I think or I shaved badly on the old pic I looked at.
You should get electro eventually.
Well my tech said I needed to start doing the genital area and I told her I didn't want to do it because I felt bad for her having to witness my tumor.
I'm waiting for it to be free for me.
These blonde hairs are soft and mostly feel awful but are very easy to get rid of and don't grow fast and no beard shadow at all anymore if I ever had any.
I find it hard enough to be in another person's presence, let alone have somebody see my stuff, but I guess for srs it's necessary.
I wish they could knock you out so you wouldn't have to deal with the shame or something.
At least loads of people have seen your bits so it's not that new.
I think the best they do at my place is put a divider up so I wouldn't have to witness it. Also the table for that is a gynecological table so fuck its embarrassing and triggering all at the same time.
I paid for laser myself though because facial hair really bothered me and tranny shrinks are very slow here.
>tfw used to be positive and have a lot of hope for my transition but then I ended up being this pathetic whiny hon that isn't getting anywhere after a year.
well that is totally fucked
>you're so anxious you're shaking
>they ask you to try to stop jiggling your stuff
just kill me right now
I'll probably post this in the new thread too if it changes hands soon
--But we're not sure what we're doing wrong on the brow shape. Too thick? Not enough arch? Wrong color? etc.
Thanks in advance
No I had a chance to get an apprenticeship but you get paid practically nothing for the first two years and I'd rather be saving for surgery at this point so right now I'm looking for a normal job
>tfw huge jaw and huge brow
Being scandinavian is hard mode
But anon you look like Pauly Perrette from NCIS and a bunch of cute noir chicks.
You must be qt.
96% masculine and 30 years old on a recent pic.
Confirmed for not delusional.
Step it up.
Yeah, it used to be somewhat better, but then they let me use a laptop for notes in HS. It all went to shit from there. I can still read it though.
I only have one pic it will rate for me. It tells me I'm too young otherwise.
>ywn have the robot overlords think you are of age
Like this. While theres not much hair. Maybe the natural shape is thick looking?
>tfw can't get the feminine % go high no matter what I do
H O N
>tfw when a bald man is better and more feminie looking than you
I give up
To silence him we must acknowledge that living is suffering. We all chase the ecstacy he once felt. We all want to see small joys in entertainment. The ????????????? ok my eyes are blurry i lost.
>tfw 30+ years old cis men are more feminine than you
You can read my free writes! It's a shit one, but I don't know where my notebooks are right now.
can you take another pic from a little further away? you can crop out your face and stuff, its just hard to judge brows from too close
anyway, my personal taste to have brows a bit more defined but you do you
also this looks okay too. so, in conclusion, don't listen to me
Kayla, it's apparent to me that right now, it's not more clothes, surgery, or even DIY procedures you need right now, it's in all likelihood, a decent therapist who is understanding of trans issues to talk to. You can likely get state medic aid if you look into it. If not, try and get a job to give yourself something else to focus on during the day.
worst case scenario, move to Portland, Gem seems to think it is a paradise there, and ffs and orchi are covered by medic aid there.
i like your handwriting, it's cute in the weirdest ways. the way you circle your capital O's.
>tfw no good friend to drag me outside to do fun things
what do you normally do for work? currently listening to toro y moi. coffee is filling and keeps me awake. sadly i just have nescafe i think. i dont get opportunity to go outside otherwise i'd go to a cafe.
I miss having real friends, friendless for almost 7 years now.