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I can't get over this trip collage, it's the best one yet.
We have probably talked before at some point in the past and I want to tell you there's good people out there but I have a hard time believing that myself everyday but just keep on fighting and never give up anon. I love you and I hope you make it. Betrayal is the worst feeling ever and my mom dad grandparents best friend and exs can all go fuck off.
I still want to kill three people from here but I fell better that im not alone in this shit...it sucks.
first appointment today at an informed consent based clinic
didn't give them specific details over the phone and they didn't ask for any, just that I was coming for primary care, scared that's going to be an issue
past few days been feeling nervous and freaking out but now i'm just hoping I don't die today basically
I love you too dude. I know there's good people out there but I have as hard a time as you believing it, and honestly, when I meet them now, I don't feel anything from it. I spent so much time around that motherfucker I feel like they've permanently tainted me, they were the only person I really valued and they took themselves away from me now that I can't enjoy anyone at all. I want to fucking kill her. Best of wishes to you too. Honestly I'm still just trying to suppress everything that's happened, it hasn't even been a month yet since I've been betrayed.
I'd like to befriend you honestly. It does make me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that's been so fucking fucked so badly.
Should I buy one of these cut cat bags or are cat themed clothes too cringy?
I don't know, I just love cats
you poor thing, im sorry. itll be fine though, you wont die. i havent even gotten around to finding a clinic in my area :/ dont think there is one for a long drive desu
youll be fine, be strong
I don't live with them anymore unfortunately, but here they are.
>go hang out with friend
>she and her boyfriend are fighting and doing heroine
>feel super uncomfortable and leave to pick up a pack of smokes and head home
>friend was panicking so hard after I left her house that she offered me some heroine
I went back because I could tell she was really sad and she told me her boyfriend was leaving. didn't do any heroine. Helped her clean up her house with some of her other friends.
I really want to help her fix her drug problem, but I don't know what I can do more that make sure she knows I'm there for her and that I care for her.
Not ashamed, I just don't want to be dragged into thread drama.
You cause it.
You cheska kiwi and probably sophie. I would bet you guys are like 80 percent of the really dramatic posts here. You guys have no lives but to manipulate people with your autistic shit. If you fucks were banned permanently this place would be so much better.
>Tfw make hips make your 26 inch waist look absolutely huge.
>mfw level 80
breezin through these levelsss ohoho
i feel like once i get to like 120-150 i'll go hang out with ppl and make friends idk lol
Thanks for the vote. I'm trying to make sense of it and I know other people see things differently too. I will delete the post after it reaches a certain number, I'd rather her not see it.
I guess not, I'm just a cynic who assumes it's for more nefarious purposes because of where we are.
>tfw know exactly what a psychobitch tranny is like from experience dating them
my god. it seems like there really is a subcategory of SPECIFICALLY fucking insane edgy goth psychobitches in the trans community. i like the saner ones a lot fucking more.
>tfw try to rock a cute shorthair style, family says
>oh wow that looks really nice on you, shorthair suits you best it matches your gender! youre >handsome
senpai...I used to be pretty confident that I was bi, but I think I'm straight now. Idk how to feel about it because before I transitioned I was in a relationship with a girl for over three years and I thought I loved her; what does feeling straight now imply about that relationship? help
Bye loser! You're probably right though in it being korra. That sassy black nigress.
>get linked to reddit trannyboards for some reason or another
>read some of the shit on there
I am so fucking glad this place exists. /mtfg/ is a wretched hive of hate, bullying, idiocy and Angie a lot of the time, but goddamn if the zero-tolerance didn't turn me out way better than if id been anywhere else.
I feel sorry for trans girls elsewhere who are told their beards and man voices and bright pink miniskirts are fine and passing.
Ive not even posted here in a year, but thanks you mad bitches, I owe you one
yup totes just angles and such, nufin special
1 year hrt , b-cup ._. not too flattering for someone my height.
wasnt sucking tummy in though.. its like skin/fat icky combination there still.. hope it goes away by time. planning to lose 4 more kilograms so i can reach 19~ as bmi.
a-actually no i cant recommend anything that i had. not rly an expert when it comes to nutrition either. ( i just used to eat all kinda stuff fatties eat.. not always though like sometimes there were oranges involved too :"D) and the days off i just tried to not faint at school and had a lot of water.
guess if you have to eat on off days it should be protein or something.
aaand uh if thats 20 in pounds it wont be too troublesome.. like 3-4months without exercise?
good luck 8)
nufin to be jealous of, im super jiggly still with icky skin
oh yup if you are chubby from the tummy and think you might get super loose skin, get a corset/waist trainer. it makes it adapt faster and keep up with the loss. also shudnt forget supplements, didnt take those and found out didnt have enuf something for proper hemoglobin and even standing up made my heart feel like it stops at any minute.
>mfw -20 outside and you have no jacket so you just wore 2xxl guy hoodies from a year ago
>still froze to death
>see someone from here post on r/transpassing
>check their profile to see if they have earlier pics
>they've got nudes on r/traps
i can't remember maybe because they had links to hrc, and hrc is somehow pro lgbt and anti trans or something, I got yelled at by their mostly genderqueer trender mods for stuff that completely blew my mind
>when you go on /mtfg/ and it's the transbians lewd time
i thought i was straight but now i can't stop watching you
i shouldn't find this interesting or cute at all, pls you're giving me bad ideas (#^o^#)
don't share all my private pics here!!
we shared those secretly, otherwise I have to dump ur pics too~
aren't I supposed to be too insane for that????
I would probs axe her axe wound and turn her into a killer cyborg death machine like in our shmups .... it's what she truly wants >.>;;;
>mfw I chill and smoke with bunz irl and reading this thread.
Shes not even here and Korra and probably another usual suspect are talking shit. Glad shes decided to stop coming here like I've been telling her. I'll let her know some anon wants to be her friend though. Good night cunts!
>tfw I want to starve myself to get rid of my core muscles but I don't want to lose my thighs or my ass
>tfw you want to start growing bigger boobs already but want to still lose a little weight
no idea what to do
WHY ARENT MY NIPPLES LIKE THAT
EXPLAIN YOURSELF BOOBFAIRY
Do you girls ever look in the mirror and just think to yourself how fucking insane you really are?
Being men with breasts trying to get your cock chopped off. Taking poisonous chemicals just to pretend to be a caricature of a woman. Seriously blow your fucking heads off im not even joking. What the fuck is wrong with you freaks?
>Tfw unsee chat asshole had to remind you of our broad shoulders
>Wat up Porkie?
about to sleep desu
what are u doing today ??
anything fun planned ??
not that bad honestly
puffy is good apparently
uhmm I'm v old ok ......
>what have you been up to
idk I had a really bad episode last night and I spent 5 hours packing today so not the best desu
no its not its annoying
like if its cold or someone plays w them they get perky but i never have like nipples like in that picture
theyre likes just super puffy aereolas with firm boobies
its embarrassing :x
A nice cup of green tea to wake me up. And not that stuff that comes in filter bags. A friend of mine works in a tea shop.
You pour hot water over it, add some honey and leave it for a few minutes.
Good night, sleep tight.
I have done my best to clear my schedule so I can fully devote myself to being a lazy slob.
>I'm v old
I have been mislead by your listings of animes/mango drawing
>I had a really bad episode last night
oooh I had one of those at work today, that's awful I hope your day gets a lot better!
I'm the same desu l-lol
usually just outward pancakes idgi
uhmm a lot of ppl esp boys like big nips tho so try not to feel too down abt it ^^;
>I have been mislead
u haven't actually I memed u I'm actually v young ....
thnx tho !! I hope ur day is nice too <3
sleep tight, hammers.
does being a lazy slob involve shitposting ??
I do both of those on the REG
b-but she had like super big.. uh uh what are those called thingies in the middle of the nipple
i want those too !
and yup they find them nice for some reason
listening to kiwi practice is really the best desu
The tea itself is not expensive, so it's just a matter of having time to prepare it. And the preparation is calming.
I was never a coffee person, but tea? Ideal for busy mornings.
Being a lazy slob definitely involves funposting. But only up to a point. Having fun is a-OK, being mean is not.
Show us on the chart anon?
>wants the trips to be disabled
Only one way to make that happen anon!
uhmm I don't think she'd enjoy that so no one desu >.>;;
she'll just make me feel so good I won't need a 3rd person there ^^;
Evening /mtfg/ how is everyone tonight????????
I'm pretty alright, stayed up all night skyping with my gf and finally got her to go to bed, and I'm gonna do the same before I start getting depressed. How are you?
I stayed off here for two months.
I've tried to leave a few times but I can't ever do it for too long.
I'm worried that being 'around the traps' too much is slowly turning me trans.
There isn't any reason for me to want to be a girl. I'm not like one in the slightest, but any duration here makes me depressed that I'm not one. If I stay off, I'm fine, but I struggle to stay off for long.
That's cute. I'm good, I just finished work. It was my first day back after 5 days off so I wasn't really looking forward to it but is was a pretty good shift.
uhmm I'm eating mac n cheese for the third time today
all I've eaten is mac n cheese .-.
I didn't know u were a dirty rin poster .....
>sum1 here said earlier that things keep changing a lot with >fast pace for 3 years
o rlly ??
that'd be rlly nice if that were true
I'm on prog now but I still want them to grow more aaa
>and like been on hrt for a year
am 1 year on hrt too !!
are u my twin o-o
@_____@ turn back while u can friend
well u sure sound like it ....
also that gif is trippy omg
:c Mac n Cheese is gross. Especially instant stuff. I'm sorry please don't hate me.
>I didn't know u were a dirty rin poster .....
I don't even know who that is senpai.
i wish, at-least wud be guaranteed to b as much of a qt you are
omggg i want prog .___. wish i cud afford some rn but o well.
you feel like its helping?
i-it is and my gifs recognizable? totes absurd nonsense
anyway.. nufin happens ?!
im not even close to passing yet and stuff
it cant be over yet :x
I'm alright, still trying to make my mind up on glasses, almost everyone I've asked(including here) have given the same answer, I just wish they came in the duo tone pattern of the other option
>I don't even know who that is senpai.
>:c Mac n Cheese is gross.
uhmm it's from the local grocier and they make it fresh and it's v good I don't rlly like the instant stuff either >.>;;
poor life senpai
omg ur prolly WAY more qt than me
does ur insurance not cover prog?? or are u self medding and it's v expensive o-o
>you feel like its helping?
uhmm I THINK so
they were sore for the first time ever last week so that was rlly new and weird
and I think they've gotten bigger idk they're more than a handful now for sure
>they're more than a handful for now
jealouuuuus mine are like just about a handful
n-no you saw me probs yesterday or something when i was posting bunch of gross pics of myself
uhh here the health care system covers everything but you have to get past a year lasting gate keeping system and im half-way there i think.
diy rn ._.''' but its better than nufin
if you look at all the timelines etc. i wouldn't expect too much facewise after a year but i think you look p good already so idk??
it's not just the gifs but your writing style in general i think
But I didn't want to transition in the slightest even two years ago.
It didn't even occur to me.
It's not like I didn't know what a transperson was then either. I just wasn't (and hope that I will remain not being) one
hmh maybe thats why then
hope its not super cringe worthy to read always
havent really taken a look at timelines, maybe shud. though that would just get me super jealous and such
p good? i went today out in a boymode and it was totally fine
>tfw no old men yelling "hey girlie" comments after me like they do to you
I can't look at any woman any more guys I just can't do it.
I can have every surgery in the world but I'll never be a female.
This is fuckery why dose science didn't found the cure yet what the hell.
I don't think its cringy, just funny how easy it is to tell when you start paying attention :)
timelines are what motivated me to try transitioning in the first place but yeah they can also get you quite jealous so theres that...
it's not like it happens that often to me either... more like ppl run away from me and I run from them
Well, there may or may not be people here with experiences like yours, but would you like to talk about those feelings more?
You say spending time here makes you depressed that you're not a girl, but also that there's no reason you should want to be a girl. Leaving aside should and should not, why would (or do) you want to be a girl?
Why do you think you keep coming back here? Is there something going on in your life that inspires it, or is it instead something you're doing out of habit? Could it be something else? It's not bad to just live, but if something affects you strongly, you may learn a lot from exploring those feelings.
Sounds a bit weird, I was depressed for a long time and thought I found the 'answer' in transitioning, just taking hormones for now and still don't know if it's the right or wrong thing to do but I guess I feel slightly better at least.
Yeah I didn't want to trigger anyone.
>I'll never be a female
in what way? sure if u wanna get all autistic about technical dictionary definition u could have a point but transition takes care of most of the functional points of being women in society
Alright mtfg it's time to make the final decision.
Is it better to be super skinny as a trans girl or gain weight and round out curves as a trans girl. From a dysphoria defeating standpoint. Assume ffs so your face passes and fat on the cheeks etc doesn't matter.
depends on height too
can have both desu
but if i had to pick it was super skinny because atleast i do feel like im too big always and such
body is okay-ish though
I should probably talk more, but I find it really hard to talk seriously about things like this.
I mean, it took twenty minutes for me to build up a reply to your pretty simple one.
As for why I would/do, that's a question with no answer. I mean, if it was that simple I would've already started.
That's where the whole 'mtfg is turning me trans' idea comes from. I need some explanation (otherwise my answer would be 'just because', which I wouldn't be satisfied with), and that's the easiest one I can find at the moment.
And why I keep coming here? It was originally just for the company. Trips are pretty reliably consistant compared to other generals, and a reasonable amount of the people seem genuinely nice (but not 'over the top' sort of illogically nice).
Now though? I just sort of seem drawn to it. Probably habit more than anything. More than once I've found myself typing automatically '4chan.org/lg' into the computer at uni when I open it before realising that it's not what I opened the computer for.
well like if u look good skinny and like it then go ahead but bone-structure is something that a lot of us have to work around and besides surgery(which there isn't even for a lot of things) the only option is to try to hide it under bodyfat,
also u need fat for tits&ass&hips tho genetics plays the biggest role after the baseline of fueling growth
rlly it comes down to what works for u
I don't think there's a definitive answer but imo skinny, if you want to beat dysphoria. You get more options with clothes that can let you hide undesirable features. Plus lots of skinny girls throw shoulder width to hip width ratios out the window so having slightly wider shoulders might fit in a bit better.
Tho I think after you get super skinny you should put a couple pounds on to get a layer of body fat that might help hide stuff.
You would probably look better with a bit more weight.
If I trip am I more likely to get a response?
hmmm, so, whats the best way to meet guys for dates and stuff when youre a not quite passable train?
Also, should I kill myself?
In conclusion, why do I sabotage any chance I have at a real relationship?
i dont know im single and very sad
probably honestly if you feel anythinh remotely similar to how i do.
i dont know but i have that problem too?
>It's so easy
I dunno senpai, I've been trying to gain a little weight lately but I have a rough time eating. I get full so quickly and then the thought of more food gets nauseating. I don't know how to keep stuffing myself after that.
Idk how to get dates pre passing but you really should but not kill yourself.
well there's the little bit of attention of "oh new trip blah blah" but the bigger thing is that ur posts will be associated with u and over time u'll develop a reputation, good or bad or whateves
I'd probably say to try to be open about stuff with guys if ur less than passable cus someone who isn't willing to try probably isn't worth it
I don't think u should kill urself but I believe people should have the right to decide that stuff for themselves
self-hate and anxiety goes a long way towards self-sabotaging
I understand being dissatisfied with "just because". We're not made for that sort of answer. Justification is crucial to our understanding of the world, and our selves. If there's no casual link, if you can't find (or fabricate) the "why" or "what for", then you can't fit it into any existing decision-making/weighting protocols, and it offers you no future predictive value. That said, having a justification doesn't necessitate acting - there can be justifications not to that carry more weight.
A comfy (virtual) hangout space is plenty of reason to visit. But something's not right if going to that kind of space results in depression. What that is, you probably SHOULD work out. It could just be this was a habit you formed at a time you needed it, but are being hurt by now that those circumstances changed.
What brought you here the first time?
>no brown girls
and hair holds still always for everyone
no problems with hair and such, o well we will be fine aslong as wind doesnt blow the bangs aside from our huge man faces
Yes I like how I look without bangs front on but I look like a comic book villain or monster from the side. Big aquiline nose and my chin sticks out and looks like the troll face and my eyes are so small and covered by my thick brow. I have mild facial paralysis on half my face too I think because my left eye always droops a bit.
I have pretty much the most unpassable features possible.
We're still around, we're just too busy being giant faggots together.
yeah but the point is tbqh from all I've seen of your posts here "stuff" will NEVER be finished for u, u'll always make some new excuse or flip-flop and say it was all a dumb idea to try to transition and get a job and move out and u'll just keep going like that till ur mom kicks u out or perhaps even worse u just waste away with her for the rest of ur life till she dies and ur left old and lost and maybe try to become some old hon
the only other option is to say fuck it and actually go out and do stuff, get a job, find a place to move to, go part/full-time, take responsibility for urself and stop hating on and blaming all the people who actually tried even when it was hard and now pass
don't u have anything better/more fulfilling than drama to focus on?
You're the person who talked about it yesterday in the thread right? Or was that someone else.
I wouldn't call your photoshop skills bad at all btw. Your picture makes me really want to pay for vffs.
Seemed pretty fine with showing off miss cock everywhere.
Can people stop with this bullshit that I pass (it's not aimed at you anon, thanks for complement). I look like any other man in my ethnic group. This how woman suppose to look like where I live.
Become a cam girl? You seem pretty comfortable showing off your body for free, why not do it for cash?
how would I ever compete with that
being trans is too much to take
Instead of just constantly saying you're too ugly to do x y z and you can't do something because you "don't pass yet", why not try and see how it goes?
No it isn't
I mean I can see the forehead but the jaw is fine as I've seen plenty of cis women who have the same jaw or even worse but work with it
Yeah but online, you'll be making money and gaining confidence. You seem pretty popular on /b/, you must be an exhibitionist naturally...tap into that, go for it!!
Maybe when I lose the weight and finish electro. I need to book another electrolysis appointment today anyway. How many hours does anyone do per session? My tech said I should do 2 hour sessions.
Who is that person? I never saw anyone like that here in Eastern Europe. Listen I know you want to help but I don't want to move in order to be able to pass. I want to blend with my own.
I'm getting dysphoric for you since you have the body profile of a muscular weightlifter. Maybe if you listened to advice instead of getting defensive you could do something about it.
I mean yeah her jaw is pretty wide but the rest of her face and body is pretty unambiguously female. Most of us don't have that same luxury so if we can get surgery to make some parts better then there's not much reason not to.
Sure the anon who's getting ffs passes in the picture she posted to us without it but that isn't really a reason to not try to make it better
>tfw u don't know anything about my portion sizes or calorie intake
Oh ok, you just had my best interest at heart. Thanks sis
You're right, you look like you know what you are doing, clearly.
yeah cus that's totally the point and not that you shit on people for having everything easy because they pass now even tho many went part/full-time before they passed so they could actually transition and work and not just stay home with their mom whining that surgery and a high paying job and a hot bf aren't literally handed to you
get a fucking job and move away from your mom or keep making excuses forever, the choice is yours
You're chasing something you may never get
Don't be Brad
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooah, I just found a place in my city that does laser I thought all the shitty clinics here only offered IPL. Gonna call them tomorrow and try and make an appointment next week. fucking stooooooooooooooked kids.
I'm finishing some contracts today and being payed.
On the downside, I binged on peanut butter and raisins and I'm scared for the future of my intestines.
Anyways, sup with y'all today
>get a fucking job and move away from your mom
I have been applying like crazy everywhere since yesterday morning. I am trying. I even applied for Denny's as a waiter and home depot as a tool repair person.
That's what I'm trying to do by being decisive and getting ffs. I was always so wishy washy about everything and some kind soul said man up yo and take control of your life. So I'm doing it.
Turns out that job thing that called me was a scam to get my personal info. I googled the number that called and it was nothing but complaints. Still though, I feel hopeless about this job search.
Alright you've all done it. I'm leaving. I may kill myself. Just know this could have been prevented had you just taken me seriously and spelled IHOP right.
There's blood on your hands. Every last one of you.
pls being joking or cut that out, yeah u could eat better but peanut butter and raisins is hardly junk food also since I figure u get stuff without added stuff to help ur tummy