Just made this infographic. Does your chin pass? What do you think?
Does Olivia Palermo's chin pass?
I think her boyfriend is starting to clock her.
of course there are outliers, but when you already have an entirely biologically male body you're trying to hide, prominent masculine features like that kind of jaw can be make-or-break factors in whether people clock you.
Yes. It can be, totally. But hands, shoulders, neck, etc, etc aren't any different. It's obsessive to single that out as THE factor, when you now that women doesn't have just two or three kind of faces .
Olivia's jaw and chin are definitely what people call "man face" on 4chan, but she still looks like a women, because that's unrelated.
>tfw 1.4 and didn't use to see that as a problem
>tfw any worse and it would have been hon tier
it's not THE factor but it's A factor and therefore should be considered when fixing your appearance
not passing is the result of a combination of masculine traits and the more of those you can **identify** and eliminate/downplay the less you get clocked, this graphic alone won't magically make someone pass but it'll help them consider one factor that may be important for them
tbf I could have used a lighter green rather than yellow for Okay Tier, 1.4 is really very normal for cis females, depending on how square the outer corners of your jaw are you have nothing to worry about
Not square and id been told I had a weak chin as a boy , but is definitely not the idealized dainty thing some girls have.
Definitely worse than ideal. will have to add that to the vanity surgery priority
tbhon a lot of the best timelines on /mtfg/ are of folks who started with weak chins, they have a maxim "ugly boys make pretty girls" but really it's a certain type of 'ugly' they're talking about and weak chins is a part of it
go ask there to see the timelines of tripfags Sophie and Abby for good examples
>tfw in yellow range again
>tfw death of a thousand cuts
It's sort of histerycal reading threads like this.
Seems like they have that Kardashian like obsession by plastic looks and won't be satisfied till they ruin the natural balance of their faces.
yellow is okay, it's still within cis range, in both,
but if you're not on HRT and aren't done with puberty then get those fucking skittles stat before your skull balloons up into a bony lumpy mess of manliness in the later stages of puberty
Never stopped me passing in the past 9 months. Used to be very self conscious of it, but I've grown comfortable with it.
Going to get FFS for it anyways after I fix my teeth though.
Last night this measurement was 1.5 inches from the bottom of your lower lip to the end of your chin, now it's the same length but from the jiggle of your lips...
Is there any proof to this or did someone just change it to be harder to fit in the ideal?
Try affecting it with your fair first. You seem passable to me.
A lot of this is proportion, not something set in fact. And you can affect proportion pretty strongly with hair style. And maybe save some money.
This is 1.6cm on a small asian girl's head who's being displayed as an example of beauty and good measurements.
I'm going to imagine most mtfs have a bigger head than her and thus a larger chin would fit into proportion.
People have different head sizes. Giving a static number like this is worthless.
You'd have to give a percentage of the face shape taken up, be even then it's not as big a deal as this makes out.
Exactly why it doesn't matter. If you have manly shoulders, or hands, why would you worry about your chin instead?
Not to mention the whole size of the head, and proportions of the top part.
That is like asking if someone look like a women throught magnifying glasses only.
This thread is stupid and you should feel stupid for posting in it
I used to but not anymore
I really don't sweat that crap anymore
Cabt change my shoulder width so just gotta live with it
it just went dark because I wasn't out in the sun constantly
Yeah, but you used to be this... It's a lot thicker
>tfw old d&t teacher could be transexual
>pic kind of related
I honestly think it's all bullshit just to try to make people feel bad.
Short chins that don't protrude at all look bad on anyone in my opinion, but it a man or a woman.
To me it's the width of the jaw and much more so, the chin, that really matter. Chin length doesn't really strike me as masculine or feminine as long as it's not something ridiculous looking.
I actually have a wide jaw. And a prominent brow and nose. Technically I shouldn't be able to pass at all. But people somehow gender me as a girl even when I'm standing right in front of them. Sounds like bullshit, I know, but it's happened a lot.
I probably wouldn't pass under the obsessive level of scrutiny that's predominant here, though. I think we overestimate just how much attention the average person pays to a stranger. Even if you look weird, the majority of bystanders will just put you into whatever box that makes things less awkward for them, for the sake of normalcy. Honestly, I'm okay with looking like an androgynous woman at until FFS at least.
>tfw 2 inches
and here I was thinking I'd escape having FFS, well I guess I'd better start looking into it.
Sorry but... If your chin is less than 1 inch tall, it's not something to be happy about.
Even women with larger chin than that gets surgery to get it larger, so that it looks normal.
>Neck and shoulders are hormonal, retard.
Keep telling yourself that you don't see many "hons" with their male shoulders and necks and ffs faces.
People here just like to focus and what makes them feel good and safe about having "a fix".
>not being aware that neck and shoulder muscles are androgenic
>expecting hormones to do something on a 60yo, at all, ever
I guess the fact that I studied bio instead of waking up one morning and feeling like I knew bio is why I know this shit, huh
You do realise that most trans kill themselves becuase they look like men, right?
That that they ain't Y for nothing, and the phisical traits goes beyond fat destribution, right?
Again, you are free to obsess about your chin size, in a desperate dleusion of "passing", if that makes you feel better about your mainly bone structure, your hands, your feet, etc, etc..
You can read about if you need some (You).
>You do realise that most trans kill themselves becuase they look like men, right?
>muh 40% suicide maymay
>Y chromosomes doing anything maymay
I'm sorry anon, but you can't be biology student dysphoric, you're just schizo.
You can keep telling yourself that Laverne passes if you want to...
That her shoulders and neck ain't mainly...
Her haircut overemphasizes her neck and shoulders. She does have broad shoulders, but the neck would look better with shorter hair.
Also for every Laverne Cox, I know a dozen people whose neck and shoulder muscles melted away. In her case it's bones.
She passes as much as Claudia Schiffer desu.
By this chart, my cis girlfriend has a man chin and needs FFS.