Canada General

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First for not fucking up your ballot and screwing yourself over

>>33981713
I just filled mine out, there are very clearly printed instructions with pictures that come with the ballot, how are 20% of people fucking this up?

I'm just going to a polling station, senpai.

>>33981634
I dont vote

>>33981854
Why not? its a necessity as a Canadian firearms enthusiast.

What's the most fun pistol you own that doesn't cost a fortune? SAAs, .357 revolvers, .22 revolvers, .22 automatics, and 1911s all seem like a good time to me, and the SD9VE needs some company.

>>33981713
ALWAYS afraid of this.

>>33981884
My definition of "a fortune" may differ from yours, but the Glock 17 Gen 4 has gone in price considerably.

I remember when they were at least $900. Now you can find them for less than $800 brand new.

>>33981878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

Canadian Force questions.

Why are there basically no CF threads on /k/?

And how does the CF works language-wise? How do you get shit done?

>>33982323
>CF threads
they pop up once in a while and are short lived because there isn't much to discuss about a military from a fairly irrelevant country. try leddit, has a pretty big CF community.

>>33982323
>40-year old helicopters
>the guns are okay, but we hardly use them because we're a peace-loving nation ^_^
>le turbanator removing kebabs, amirite?
Gee, I wonder why?

>>33982323
>And how does the CF works language-wise? How do you get shit done?

people who only speak one language are usually sent to a base that mostly speaks that language, in the event that and english speaker is sent to Quebec (or vice versa) they are put into language training school.

It usually works just fine, the only time Ive ever had a problem was in basic when I had a Master Bombardier who had only been speaking english for a year was trying to teach an entirely english speaking class about something and nobody could understand a word he said.

>>33981944
The SD9VE is basically a Glock, so I wouldn't find that very fun.

>>33983158
but worse in literally every way.

possibly the worst trigger ever, at least in my narrow experience range of ~20 hand guns.

>>33983317
Ever shoot a double-action Nagant revolver?

>>33982509

At what rank do you need to be bilingual to be promoted?

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oh wow, look at that, suddenly the 80% dealers are all overstocked and totally need to sell their overabundant stock like.. NOW!

>SALE! SALE! SALE!
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1568826-Old-Stock-Blow-Out-Thread-Dlask-Arms-Corp?s=07fb1ea86eed7a7bedfc6253d94229eb
>see 3rd post

>EVERYTHING MUST GO!
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1563521-Overstocked-on-80-Sale!-15-OFF-COUPON
>see main post

GEE, WHAT A FUCKING COINCIDENCE!
they totally just happened to all be selling off their 80% shit all of a sudden as fast as they can. not like they learned something and are trying to pawn off shit that they know they won't be able to sell soon. nobody is coming to see their books and give a call to all of the chumps.. I mean, customers any time soon

>>33985046
And what pray tell could possibly be happening with 80% lowers...

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How douchey is it to ask for veteran discounts for gun orders? I mean I'm not usually a stingy bastard but 10% is 10% you know?

>>33985977
If they don't offer it it'd be pretty cringey to beg tbqh

>>33985562
I wouldn't worry about it.

Are chink ARs a meme? I want a good extended clip assault rifle without spending a grand.

>>33981726
>tfw you're pretty sure you did it right
>but have a problem with second-guessing yourself

>>33981847
Ya know what, I'll do this too.

>>33982025
>tfw the world need's George's sober brand of non-denominational satire and wit now more than ever
Feels bad man. The 90's are never gonna come back... though they weren't a good time for Canadian gun owners, so I suppose it's not all bad.

>>33987473
Why not buy one of the S&W M&P 15 Sport II's that are coming in?

>>33987535
>the world needs more anti-gun and anti-military nihilistic snark
Confirmed for never actually having listened to George Carlin.

>>33987456
>nothing to see here, citizen!

I'm planning on going for my PAL in the next few months. Has anyone here gone to the course offered at the Pioneer Sportsman's Club in Kitchener? How was it? Any other courses in the KW region you'd recommend over that one?

>>33987862
How do they compare in quality to the Norinco ones?

>dude 'shoots down' drone flying over his rural property
>hurrr, malicious intent, he should lose his license, drone was a gud RC who didn' do anyting

I don't know why I even bother visiting the cesspool known as /r/canadaguns.

>>33982323
>Why are there basically no CF threads on /k/?
because the canadian military is tiny and mostly comprised of career soldiers where as tons of people do a short stint in the military in the US

also like 1% of their population is in active or reserve service vs. our 0.2%

if going by raw population the US military is 30~ times bigger than ours

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>>33988134
>reddit
>ever
You only have yourself to blame.

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>>33988134
wtf? the kid was breaking the law too

flying a drone is illegal canada wide now, why the fuck isn't the kid being fined

>>33988178
>flying a drone is illegal canada wide now,
Is this true? I'm not a dronefag so I don't follow this sort of thing

>>33988183
yeah

Things you can't do with drones:

>Higher than 90 metres.
>Within 75 metres of buildings, vehicles, vessels, animals or people.
>More than 500 metres away from the user.
>At night, in clouds or somewhere you can't see it.
>Within nine kilometres of somewhere aircraft take off or land, or a forest fire.
>Without your name, address and phone number marked on the drone itself.
>Over forest fires, emergency response scenes or controlled airspace.

They may as well have just outright banned them

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-drone-regulations-marc-garneau-1.4027486

>>33988169
I know, I know. Thing is that sub used to be moderately tolerable, but recently it seems to have gone full-retard on the lefty bullshit. I guess all the lib/dipper voters finally got booted off of CGN or something.

Can't make my mind up between a Sig P320 or a S&W MP9. Does anyone have any experience with either handgat?

Should I join the Canadian Army or immigrate to America to join their Army? I would like to be infantry.

>>33988352
>infantry

For what purpose?

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>>33988276
Daily reminder that those types are our worst political enemies.
>See guys, I AM a gun owner, and I can tell you from my experience as a REAL GUN OWNER that us REAL GUN OWNERS don't NEED highcapacityasaultmachinerifles or CONCEALEDCARRYCONCEALABLEHANDCONCEALS for hunting and target shooting
>*tips single-shot 12 guage*

>>33988368
I like to shoot guns.

>>33988463
The Infantry will make you hate guns, hiking, the outdoors and life in general. The CF does it's absolute best to suck the fun out of literally everything.
t. former Infantier

>>33988463
At the very least go combat engineer or something, that way you will learn skills applicable to a career outside the military.

>>33988352
are you white? then come to america and breed with white women, dude. im not kidding, we need help.

>>33987159
>If they don't offer it it'd be pretty cringey to beg tbqh
But again....10% is 10%...pham

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>>33988523
How would you go about doing that? I want to move to America so badly

>>33988532
https://www.usa.gov/green-cards

>>33988324
i'd say go for the sig

i've heard many times that M&P9s are bad guns, the 2.0 may have fixed its problems though

a few government organizations adopted them and ended up dumping them, if that tells you anything

>>33988523
I'm pretty sure Canada needs more help than you guys right now.

>>33988571
not really dude, the mexicans are replacing them at incredibly high rates

canada is still 85%~ white

>>33988497
>The Infantry will make you hate guns, hiking, the outdoors and life in general. The CF does it's absolute best to suck the fun out of literally everything.
Alright straight line on me, we're collecting brass.

>>33988214
Good, this is why I voted Liberal, they're keeping us safe. If not for this drones would be creeping on people constantly

>>33988682
as far as i can tell it didn't even go through normal political process and transport canada made the decision arbitrarily over night

>>33982323
Why do you want to work for Justin trudeau?

>>33988682
YASS QUEEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDTpCDC6b2U

>>33988854
Actually you're working for the Queen.

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>>33988682
Is this bait?
Libs had nothing to do with that.
They're much too busy pushing multicult and dodging ethics investigations.

>>33988380
>implying this isn't the kind of fudd attitude that threw the rest of the firearms community under the bus decades ago
>implying fudds are predominantly NDP or liberals
Considering almost every other post in this thread is retarded right now, you don't exactly stand out though.

>>33988134
>shooting people's drones because you automatically assume "REEEE they're spying on me!"
Do you also assume the kid who lost his ball in your yard is trying to break into your shed? Or flying a fucking kite over your house? Conservaniggers need to learn to respect other people's property

>>33988214
Only the first 2 rules are excessive. The rest is pretty common-sense safety shit, especially when you consider forest fires are fought primarily with aircraft.

>>33989163
>implying this isn't the kind of fudd attitude that threw the rest of the firearms community under the bus decades ago
I wasn't implying that, I agree completely. Hence why they're a dangerous political opponent, having a gun gives them credibility in the eyes of fence-sitters
>implying fudds are predominantly NDP or liberals
I would be correct in that implication, however

>>33989212
the forest fire thing is such an irrelevant and rare scenario who gives af

rule #2 is really what kills it all, 9km from aircraft is excessive too, that means you can't fly them in any city

>>33989212
I'm inclined to think the kid kept flying it on his property despite being asked now too, and ask pointed out already the kid was flying it illegally

personally i wouldn't shoot someones drone but i don't think that guy should be charged with anything

the fact all they could hit him with was mischief, which is an incredibly vague arbitrary law shows that he wasn't really legally in the wrong

>>33989228
>forest fires are rare and irrelevant
Wut? And sure it might not be too likely to happen, but I'm pretty sure that the guy flying the water bomber still feels safer knowing some idiot isn't buzzing a drone around, trying to get a cool video for facebook.

>>33989273
Honestly I hadn't heard anything about the case until the mention above, but I've seen enough idiots screaming about how they'd shoot any drones they saw flying around their house that I have no trouble believing that might have happened.

Also it's not strange for new laws to be enforced loosely when they first come out, especially when it's dealing with a new technology (just look at all the shit going on with the internet, and that's been around a little while now)... I wouldn't be surprised if what they did was basically copy and paste the laws for RC airplanes.

>>33989215
You don't know many fudds then.

Was talking with a girl from the UK today, literally the most infuriating conversation regarding gun politics I've ever had.

>aren't you scared of holding a military grade assault weapon? It would be so easy to shoot up a school haha
>you don't NEED guns. Why hunt? Just by your meat from the market
>I bet most people who have licenses are crazy and don't know how to use one properly anyways
>it's a dangerous hobby, smoke weed instead
>knives shouldn't be banned tho, they're tools and have multiple uses plus criminals will do criminal things anyways

How THE FUCK can you say that last statement with a straight face, and still be totally against firearms ownership? I'm fucking done, man. No pussy is worth putting up with this shit.

>>33989414
yeah, i mean as far as a scope of people that would effect it's tiny, and it's something that goes without saying

the forest fire thing will never be relevant to 99.9% of drone users is what i'm trying to say

>I wouldn't be surprised if what they did was basically copy and paste the laws for RC airplanes.
they didn't because RC airplanes dont have any of those restrictions

>>33989212
>respect muh property
Then keep it off my property.

>>33989474
Never stick your dick in crazy, Anon.

>>33988899
>This much denial

>>33989818
>Being so retarded you don't even understand how your own government works

>>33989474
She is just a bad example, there are decent sane ones out there if you look

cant you faggots get a new OP pic

whats the last day to mail your ballot?
Been awfull busy lately and dont want to miss the deadline.

>>33990125
probably needs to be in the mail by friday or it won't get there in time

needs to be there by the 26th

>>33990103
Not our fault the same autist sits there all day waiting to annoy you with a shit OP

what is the ideal light weight animal defense gun?

>>33990576
Chiappa Little Badger

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>>33987456
>I wouldn't worry about it.

Skin walker/RCMP GIT OUT REEEEEEEEE

>>33988899
Hey man, I don't like our Prime Minister either, but there's no need to call him such names.

>>33985977
It's a gun store, you hardly have anything to lose.

Most gun stores do give discounts to veterans, active service members, and police officers. The ones that don't are usually easy to pressure (no business owner ever wants to be portrayed in the newspaper as an evil freedom-hating commie).

>>33989474
>I bet most people who have licenses are crazy and don't know how to use one properly anyways
If she was talking about cars, she wouldn't be wrong at all.

>>33989474
My feminist NDP-voting sister's stance on guns:
>conceal-carry should be legal, then women would never be raped.

>>33990851
This. I just started driving and ill be doing 120kmh on a 110kmh highway and people and semis will still be passing me, or one road will have 4 different speed limits for no logical reason every couple blocks

>>33985977
>>33990675
>The ones that don't are usually easy to pressure
>(no business owner ever wants to be portrayed in the newspaper as an evil freedom-hating commie)
To answer your question anon, asking isn't douchey. Just this kind of shit.

>>33987992
better barrel afaik, but I own a CQA and have no complaints

>>33988599
true, just tough to see that when living in bigger cities

Also fuck Vancouver. Why can't I have a bustling city without faggy fobs

>applying to reserves
>hand in forms yesterday
>told it'll be about a month before I get email for CFAT and physical
>got it 3:00 today
>E F F I C I E N T
>F
>F
>I
>C
>I
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>N
>T

>>33987928
Done my PAL and RPAL through shooters choice. Can't complain.

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is the canadian army worth enlisting in?

>>33992582
I don't believe you.

>>33993382
I don't see why not. Just don't bother with Arty, Infantry or Armor if you want any skills that convert to civvy street.

>>33981634
Mittenstate resident. Is anyone familiar how I can get in on that sweet, sweet, cheap SKS action without getting fucko'd? Is there anyone here familiar with the law on that sort of thing?
If it's not terrible I might re-up my passport.

>>33993541
is there any non-desk job that has transferable skills?

>>33993541
Generally speaking, joining the military is a last resort for people who can't get normal civvie jobs.

So chances are he never had civvie skills in the first place.

>>33993587
this is true

>>33993526
I'm not even lying
I can screencap it
It's blowing my fucking mind

Is the Canadian gun community as a whole ok or is it filled with Mall Ninjas, Turbo Fudds and general insane creepy fuckers?

Just don't want to get into guns but end up stuck with some 250 pounds faggot who won't shut up about how the Muslims are about to take over and how he bought 5000 rounds of .223 for his 2000$ tactical AR and soaked them in pig grease or with a retard who'll tell me I don't need assault weapons because they're only good for shooting up achools.

>>33993833
Why do you care if some people are idiots? Just get guns and enjoy whatever sport/collecting/whatever you take part in.

The community is broad enough that you can most definitely find people who are friend material.

>>33993833
people seem alright in southern alberta, just don't invite anyone into your house cause they'll want to talk to you about magic underwear

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>>33988134
>I don't know why I even bother visiting the cesspool known as /r/canadaguns.

I find this one funny.
>Make Canada gun videos once in a while
>Some people like them
>Wear a cheap Punisher shirt I picked up for like $4
>Linked to a reddit thread where someone posted my video
>Guy comments saying wearing a Punisher shirt gives a bad image for firearm owners
>The reddit mascot on that fucking subreddit is wearing a Punisher shirt

I had a laugh.

What's a good price on an SKS with a crate of (non-corrosive) ammunition?

I was looking for an SKS a few years ago but didn't take the plunge.

>>33994200
Average price of an SKS is ~$200
Average price of 1400 corrosive is ~280-300

Just get the corrosive and clean after every shoot. The price difference is worth it.

>>33992582
which unit

>>33982323
don't even bother joining the military right now. It's been steady budget cuts since Trudeau got in and you're just gonna get inundated with op honour bullshit and gender bender sensitivity training. I miss the Bosnia era

>>33982323
>>33995107
>33995107

As for language, Quebec is their own division. Some of them are pretty solid dudes. The rest are psychopaths and rednecks. As for Inuit, the Rangers do sovereignty patrols up north and still carry Lee Enfields because they can't be trusted with assault rifles or machine guns. Only 5000 of them or so

>>33993833
It runs the gamut, generally pretty decent. Canadian gun culture is, by and large, pretty fuddy, although I notice a big difference between some of the cities/towns I've lived in. The bigger it is the more tactical, generally.

>>33993833
It's been a mixed bag in my experience in BC. Lots of fudds around here for sure, had one tell the guys at the gun store that he thought AKs were illegal while pointing at SKS rifles, then asking if a vz58 came in .243 and then sweeping everybody with his finger on the trigger, and then at the range I meet some of the gear queer types dressed in cheap made in China vests and clothes shooting some cheapo .22 rifles and stuff talking about how the Nazis weren't all that bad and that they had some good ideas while saying a bunch of historically false/inaccurate stuff. I'm not sure what I prefer really, dumbass turbo fudds who think any black colored gun is some sort of high powered anti aircraft gun or the far right neo Nazi shtf prepper types.

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Oh hey, apparently NEA is making 9mm carbines, now.

>>33995505
Neat.

I dont see the appeal of a 9mm AR.
10mm however..

>>33995505
What the hell kind of magazine is that ?

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>>33993833
>>33993953

Also from Southern Alberta and from experience it usually depends on where you go to shoot. I usually shoot at a bubba ass range that not too many people go to in Spring Coulee and almost always don't have issues. Hell sometimes there's some pretty cool people who always ask about my Schmidt-Rubin or my M95 Steyr-Mannlicher whenever the enbloc falls out.

But if I go to the range locally in Lethbridge then there's always some faggotry about, usually people bothering me on not having a modern rifle or pistol.

Pic unrelated, picked up a Walther P1 the other day.

>>33996353
Short

>>33996353
I think they said they were going to use uzi mags. Otherwise its a colt mag.

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>>33994126
I wear this on campus alot, so many weird looks. More than a few chill people too tho.

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Woo fights on boys. UN Firearms markings regulation has been pushed back till Dec 1 2018!

https://rgsl.ca/firearms-marking-regulations-deferred-december-1-2018/

>>33996905
WEW
Hopefully we can keep kicking the can down the road until Mad Max gets rid of it once and for all

>>33997049
Hopefully Mad Max will just remove us from the UN.

>>33996905
Some good news for gun owners!

>>33997068
>Implying it won't collapse before then

>>33998312
There's always hope.

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My license expires one May 2018

Is it too late for me to get a renewal at this point? Did I wait to long and am now guaranteed to become a paperwork criminal before they finally get around to renewing it?

I'm on vacation, won't really be able to get around to sending the renewal papers until around the end of this month/start of next month.

>>33998834
Do it no later than 6 months prior to your license expiring.

Hope you have a happy birthday this month.

>>33998861
I thought it usually took a year at least before they even looked at your renewal application?

>>33998876
Depends, sometime you get lucky and it is processed within a week. Other times it takes months.

>>33998888
Nice quads anon

Is the six month grace period Harper gave us in effect right now? I remember Bill C-42 had a lot of rocky shit that was only sorta, kinda, not really put through when it first passed.

>>33998909
Apparently it is, but the amnesties are going to end apparently this year.

From the CCFR facebook page:

>Under the Harper government, law abiding gun owners were given an amnesty for their expired PAL, approximately 8 times.

>As of Dec 31, 2017, gun owners will be required to renew expired licenses within the 6 month grace period. No further amnesties will be provided.

Has anyone ever applied for RCMP?

>>33998955
Wait, what
>Under the Harper government gun owners got a 6 month grace period
>As off Dec 31, 2017, gun owners will still have a 6 month grace period
What is the point of saying this? Am I missing something?

>>33998955
>>33998984
Well they better fucking actually make it into law, because its still waiting for the speaker of the house to sign off on it.

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>>33998979
>Joining the enemy so they can force you to move to the middle of buttfuck nowhere with a population of about 100 drunken Indians
Why would you do this instead of just joining the local police department, same money and benefits but you get to stay in your town/city

>>33998989
>Sauce http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/41-2/bill/C-42/royal-assent/page-45#7

14. Subsection 64(1.1) of the Act is replaced by the following:
Extension period
(1.1) Despite subsection (1), if a licence for firearms is not renewed before it expires, the licence is extended for a period of six months beginning on the day on which it would have expired under that subsection.
(...)
COMING INTO FORCE
(...)
Order in council
(4) Sections 14 and 35 come into force on a day or days to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council.

>>33998984
Basically we have a 6 month grace period with additional amnesties allowed so if we don't get our PAL renewed by the end of the 6 month grace period we don't get anally pounded by the RCMP for their bureaucracy.

>>33998989
I want to see that Private MP Bill get passed through. Gives us a suspended license that allows us to own what we own. We still have to renew but it just gives us the ability to go and purchase more guns and ammo.

No RCMP coming down on you because you forgot to renew.

>>33999016
>Basically we have a 6 month grace period
but we don't at all right now, the bill has passed but has not been signed by the GoC therefore it is not currently law.

I mean you can fight it in court and win but you will have to fight it in court.

>>33999033
>tfw meant to say had instead of have

>>33994200
Dont be afraid of corrosive ammo. Its literally the same cleaning ritual but pour some boiling water down the barrel/gas tube first.

Its boiling so will dry almost instantly.

>>33994200
Dominion used to make some good non-corrosive ammo for near surplus prices but after the Ukranian war broke out import stopped

>>33999219
Sometimes it's nice to leave the cleaning for another day though right after a range day

>>33999002
>Your city doesn't have a police department and it's just RCMP
wew

>>33999236
ive left my SKS until the day after. Just make sure you do a quick wipe down and leave the bolt open. Over 2800 rounds thru my SKS no rust.

>>33999002
>so they can force you to move to the middle of buttfuck nowhere with a population of about 100 drunken Indians
Except that western province applicants can now choose to remain in their own provinces.
>implying it's easier to get into a local pd

>>33999379
>can now choose to remain in their own provinces.
You read the part that says that only applies for the first bit then they can tell you to go anywhere they want right?
I've looked at it too and that turned me away. I have zero interest in getting fucked over by being told
>OH HEY THERE. You're going to Nunavut now! :^)

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>>33998834
no, I did mine 5 month before expiry and got the renewal in like a couple of weeks. /k/ psyched me out and I felt like a retard when I got the new card with like 4 months to go on the old one.

at the end of the day it's better to do it too early than too late, and could depend on how busy they are at the time you're doing it. but I would say 6 months is plenty of time, renewing your license a year ahead of time, considering that under new law you have a grace period to renew is a bit autismo in my opinion

>>33999519
>I've looked at it too and that turned me away. I have zero interest in getting fucked over by being told
They're not going to tell you to fuck off to Nunavut when your area is already severely understaffed.

>>33999236
>>33999362
A lot depends on the humidity levels where you live, as well as how cold it was when you were shooting. Clean as soon as possible if you live somewhere humid, and also if you've been shooting outside when it was cold.

So I never received my ballot and I think it's too late to request a replacement...

Does the voting work the same way as the electoral district? I don't think the conservatives have ever had more than 150 votes in my area (i doubt liberals have lost this riding since I was born) and doubt there even any registered conservatives in my riding other than the person who runs.

>>34000611
Would you take the risk?

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>>34000564
I dunno mang, I've heard too many horror stories about dudes waiting nearly a year or even more for their renewal to go through before getting anything, hell, think it was in this very thread where an anon was freaking out because his renewal didn't arrive AND his RPAL expired.

Fuck mang, why can't RPAL's just be permanent unless you fuck up everyday, they immediately know if you have a really bad crime under your name anyway so it's not like the renewal will make them catch anything.

>>34000988
If you're that worried about PAL expiry, then document everything.

Write letters inquiring about the status of your renewal, or hell, call them and record the whole thing. You're more ironclad than Marstar's guarantee.

>>34000863
The choices in my riding were Liberal, NDP, Green, and Christian Heritage.

This was the most disappointing list of choices ever given to me, so I had no choice but to spoil my ballot.

>>34001044
The fuck is Christian Heritage?

>>34001428
https://www.chp.ca/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Heritage_Party_of_Canada

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Guys Bill C16 passed today, it's literally illegal to misgender someone now.

What went wrong with our country?

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>>34001531
Now thats just funny

>>34001531
Not quite, read the provisions of the bill itself any you can still get away with misgendering someone

>>34001591
The implication is that you will be breaking the criminal code if you disobey the human rights tribunal when they tell you to stop misgendering someone, because it's contempt of court.

already planning a move to alaska if bernier loses

Whrn is Turdeau going to pass the repeal of c-42?

>>34001669
This, and furthermore if you don't pay the fines/do the indoctrination/reeducation you'll be thrown in jail.

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Hi all. Give me your honest opinion on joining the Canadian Armed Forces as a Weapons Technician - Land (basically an armorer).

>>34003901
Looking at the description online it seems pretty cool. But, I mean, if you wanna go for it just go for it. You don't need our approval. Just do you

As long as you are in the process of renewing your license you are fine.

Mine existed last May and I didn't get my license until mid June. I spoke with the bc cfo and she said I was fine.


To the retard saying it takes up to a year.. no it doesn't.

Stop posting bullshit.

>>34002390
Still no word on it. Based on the UN marking thing, it seems like the low LPC poll numbers are working to our advantage. They know that messing with us hurts them politically.

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>>34001531
>It's now illegal to call someone who is obviously a man a man.
I want off this fucking ride

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>>34006485
>>34001531
CANADA YES

Anyone want a unfired jw20 ? I got it as part of a trade

Where would I be able to go to get someone to drill and tap a rail for me?

>>34006993
I fucking hate people like that. He's put zero effort into being a girl.
There's a great interview with a feminist who disguised herself as a man named Ned, and she was very convincing.

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>>34006993
fucking canada lmfao

Just out of curiosity which ar-15 magazines are the easiest to take apart? For cleaning of course

>>34008020
P-mags fall apart when shooting, so I'd say those.

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>>34007871
>He's put zero effort into being a girl.
There's nothing more to being a woman than deciding you are one. If you disagree, see >>34001531

I also wouldn't be surprised to see these generals get shoa'd in the near future, since the content is 1% funs and 99% /canpol/

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>>34001531

Don't bring that bullshit down south or I will fucking kill you.

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>>34008247
Too late for that, burgetfat

>>34008029
pmags are bad/fall apart? aren't they the AR community's darling for reliability and dependability?

>>34008459
It's the harsh Canadin climate, Anon. Magazines just seem to fall apart all over the place. It's a real hassle.

>>34008459
>>34008499
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/09/pmags-tested-in-cold-conditions/

>preordered Type 81 weeks ago
>think about it so much it's turning into an obsession

This is gonna be a very painful 2-3 months familams.

>>34009334
I know the feeling. Ordered the M84 Skorpions when they dropped the price by $300. Placed the Order in June/July.

Didn't receive it until a few days before Christmas.

>>34003901
I'm not in the CF but from what I understand from hearing stuff left and right you'll pretty much spend your days cleaning weapons so if you're one of those kommandos who constantly clean their guns that might be good for you.

I'd be interested about joining the RCN or being a tanker myself so if anyone knows anything that would be sweet. Also opinions on being a relative oldfag (25) when joining.

>>34009428
>being a tanker
If you're lanklet, brace for neck and back problems and whacking your head off things. Armor is probably the only Combat Arms trade where manlets excel.

>>34009449
Pilots benefit from being small as well.

About to send in my ballot

How does this line up look for candidates guys?
First to last.
maxime bernier
erin otoole
andrew scheer
chris alexander
brad trost

>>34009449
how tall is too tall?

>>34009334
>come summer
>"Sorry guys, guns haven't begun production yet... ETA winter or early 2018, for sure this time. Honestly."

>>34009428
dont fucking do it me myself am a tanker and if you like to do a fuck ton of runs and ruck marches then go right ahead

>>34009533
the guys a dumb fuck civi, tanks are actually pretty spacious but in the cf never expect to ever get posted to a tank unit its gonna be ether TACVs or TLAVs

>>34009517
Chris Alexander isn't even on my ticket. Motherfucker wants something like 500k immigrants per year.

>>34009517
I mean, you vote for whomever you want. Personally I went

Scheer
Bernier
O'Toole
Lemieux
Trost

>>34009807
>Mad Mad second
Explain yourself

>>34009843
*Max, fug

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Considering I only have one slavshit rifle, what would you anons recommend for a second rifle purchase? Semi-auto or Bolt action prefer.

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having funs in toronto sucks. There is literally nowhere to shoot that's not 2 hours away. All gun clubs aren't taking anyone new and all the crown land is fucking far as fuck and most crown land now say that you can only shoot with the purpose of hunting..... What a fucking waste of time with this fucking hobby.

>>34009854
Milsurp or likely-to-be-banned guns first.

Milsurp dries up and if a gun gets banned you want to get the 12.X that goes with it.

>>34009843
I figured Maxime would be getting a lot of first-choice votes, and I like how Scheer carries himself in debates and interviews. In the end I'm happy with him or Bernier becoming PM.

>>34009536
pls no
I'd probably send them a suicide note.

>>34009895
I'd get the SVT40 for the milsurp, but the $400 deals dried up in my area.

>>34009927
It's going to happen, mark my words.

>>34010057
Oddly enough, the magazines are like half the rifle's value.

>>34010128
I wouldn't be surprised at all but I don't wanna believe mane

>>34010134
To my knowledge, they at least do accept nugget stripper clips.

>>34009895
>if a gun gets banned you want to get get the 12.X that goes with it
how real is this? isn't it more likely that they will just get it confiscated? let's say the 858/Swiss Arms ban stuck -- the expectation was that people were supposed to turn them in (inB4 "but they're not registered", that's not the point). there was never any talk from the authorities about letting people keep them and giving out Prohibited licenses.

also, if we are assuming you are right, would they give you a Prohibited license for your particular firearm or would you expect one that lets you buy any Prohibited at that point?

>>34011139
Not real at all the 12.X licences are done there have been quite a few other bans that weren't as common as the 858/SA ban that they got away with and didn't grandfather or buyback shit.

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>>34008499
>>34008616
well, fuck, didn't know that, not an AR person myself. so is this basically every polymer mag ever or are there exceptions?

>>34011235
Yeah polymer mags or most plastics for that matter do not fare well in "sub arctic" temps which is basically winter anywhere in Canada aside from South Ontario, Vancouver and the East coast.

>>34011235
Lancer mags or mags with metal feed lips may fare better but they may still break where the metal feed lips and polymer body meet.

>>33996831
>going to use uzi mags

So they'll all be stuck at 5 and expensive, instead of 10 and cheap if they'd gone with Glock. Nice, NEA, nice.

>>34011331
The thing with uzi mags is they can be imported from the states in bulk by NEA for super cheap which I think is what they intend to do.

>>34011359
Still, double capacity is a big draw to PCCs here, and the magpul glock mags are pretty damn cheap. Plus tons of people already have the Glock to use mags from, nobody except CTG has an uzi and a pile of magazines already.

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>>34011284
the SKS is truly the right arm of the Free North
>accessible financially to most, both rifle and ammo
>simple and straightforward manual of arms
>self-contained system with no mags to lose, with a bayonet blade and cleaning kit built in
>built like a Soviet tractor, nearly indestructible, will function in adverse cold and hot conditions, with dirt or sand, and with sub-par lubrication and cleaning

>>34011535
That'd be a nice lookin sks without that gay ass sight

>>34011566
huh, just assumed it was part of the background. looks like a girl shooting and not really aiming down sights or holding the rifle properly

>>34011331
They could sell 9mm AR pistols.

>>33982323
Oh man.

Anyone else shipping out for June BMQ?

>>33996078
I'd be on board for this, potentially.

>>34003901
Good luck, Weapon Tech has been closed for the last 4 years or so.

Anywhere with No5 jungle carbines in stock?

>>33981634
>>>33988463
>At the very least go combat engineer or something, that way you will learn skills applicable to a career outside the military.
This.
Join in a Tech trade (ie CE, RCEME, etc..), you'll thank us after 5 years.

>>33981634
>>>33993541
>is there any non-desk job that has transferable skills?
Any of the Tech trades like Plumbing or Electrical Techs.

>>34012850
Buy one of CGN EE, there is always a couple for sale

>>34013103
I only have one post made on CGN, I don't think that's enough to get into EE.

Guess I'll double time my shitposting from now on.

>>34012794
I've been seeing postings for it on LinkedIn, though.

Hello fellow leafs.
Recently after now building my second AR I have been wondering about doing small scale manufacture to open up another small canadian arms producer. Because, lets face it. Getting parts to come over the border is expensive and fucking hassle.
SO I had the idea to see if I could produce AR lowers and possibly upper receivers. Then moving on to more complex parts as time goes on.
But while Im looking into the options as far as production goes I cant find any conformation on what one would need to do to become a legal firearm manufacturer up here in Leafistan.
Ontop of that whats the legal stand point on AR lowers? I heard a rumor that the RCMP was planning on changing the classification on some AR lowers As well as the status of 0% and 80% lowers, does anyone have any info on that?

>>34014114
I've been trying for a year to get manufacturing licenses to produce firearms, restricted firearms, and firearm parts.

Filling out ridiculous forms, getting approval for completely arbitrary bullshit, and still not even getting a fucking reply. I will never stop being absolutely FUCKING LIVID ABOUT THIS COCKFUCKING BULLSHIT.

>>34014114
> what one would need to do to become a legal firearm manufacturer
You need to speak with the RCMP CFP, all I know is that they will inspect your business premises before you can start operation. You also need to follow some extra security measures that most machine shops don't have.

>whats the legal stand point on AR lowers?
At 100% They are the firearm even without parts or barrel, can only be sold to RPAL and must be registered in to your business until you sell them.
80% they are a paperweight and can be sold to anyone.

>AR-15 reclassification
They always have been the only credible info was a pitch to a former safety minister under the Harper government that got laughed out, I can find a copy for you if you want.

>80% reclassification
No credible info but I have no doubt that the RCMP is always planning something.

How are you faggot even awake? Go to bed you fellow syrup niggers

>>34014177
Pure rage and loathing keeps me up. I think I have stopped being a carbon based life form at some point, now I'm just pure sodium chloride based life form.

>>34014160
I have no doubt that will be what awaits me. But I feel for you all the same.
>>34014165
I heard that the RCMP were going to prohib a certain style of lower that lacked the full auto seer shelf because reasons.

>>34014212
It was old colt lowers with wide access FCG. I also have that document. Most modern AR FCG pockets are fine.

>>34014257
Speaking of ar lowers anyone know what the cheapest finished lower available in Canada is?

>>34014212
>>34014257
Document here
http://calibremag.ca/new-ar-15-semiautomatic-standard-rcmp/

>>34014272
$250 just add carbine stock.
http://www.saskatoongunworks.com/ar15-assembled-lower-receiver-black-aero-precision/dp/3060

>>34014325
Neat, I was just looking for the lower receiver not the whole lower.

>>34014346
Ah stripped lower
$109 +10% off this weekend with "Victoria" code
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_284&products_id=1313&zenid=db0c8db5d2028e9cd8d70fd1d3a0c2ec

>>34014189
Tell us what's bothering you anon.

>>34014460
see
>>34014160

>>34014177
Caffeine pubg caffeine pubg cocaine, in that order. Also its a civic drinking holiday here so long weekend.

>>34014160
What kind of firearms would you make?

>>34014495
As a machinist and gunsmith (formal education in both, currently employed in the former), I would make muzzle devices (brakes, flash hiders), my own model of firearm that shares many AR-15 parts but would be non-restricted a bit like the ATRS hunter/varminter except reasonable price and a lot of other "changes". I would also make chassis for certain rifles, a few traditional-ish bolt actions, a few wacky varmint/target bolt-action single shots, and some other stuff.

It would be my weekend thing so I'd still have a regular job unless it took off and I felt secure enough to expand it to a full-time career. I have capital saved up, prototypes functional, processes of operations, CAD models with dimensioning, CNC toolpaths proved out, manual operations ready, I even have the cutting tools (endmills, drills, etc) ready to go.

I basically just need to have the RCMP/CFO say "ok" but at this point I don't think it'll happen. They don't return any calls, they don't return any letters. I have some other avenues to explore, like work under contract from a local gun store business or local gunsmith that already has the licenses, but that's another headache.

>>34014513
What province are you in?

>>34014532
Ontario.

>>34014534
Haha, yeah. Our CFO is shit. When they know they are in the wrong, they just stop answering.

It sounds like you have a bunch of time/money already invested in it. Have a lawyer send them a registered letter saying that they can either answer you of their own volition or they can answer you in court.

>>34014548
Yep, it's why I went to college and gunsmithing in the first place, I've had this dream building up almost ten years now. I would've had an alpha production prototype last year if it'd gone well.

It does give me time to tweak the CAD/process, so it hasn't been all bad, but I'm definitely sour about the whole affair. I got a new job that should start soon, I think it'll help out.

Gonna go sleep a little, thanks for letting me vent a bit.

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>>34014559
Pretty much same story here. Studied CAD/CAM and intend to study Mech. Eng. specifically to design and produce firearms. They make everything they can an uphill battle.

No worries, man. You're among friends.

>Put CZ 527M up on CGN
>Within an hour I get a shit ton of replies
>One of my first PMs is a guy saying he'll take it
>Still answer other people's questions in case the guy backs up or doesn't follow through
>Get my payment from the guy interested
>Tell another guy who was interested that I sold it
>He gets pissy and acts surprised that I sold
M8 people eat these fucking rifles up you really think that you're the first person to make an offer to me?

Any /k/nadians in the Manitoba area round here? Got myself my first couple of guns over the winter but haven't been out shooting yet. Crown land shooting appeals to me more than range shooting so I was wondering if anybody wanted to go out shooting one of these Saturdays and show me the ropes for one of the good shooting spots? (I don't want to just show up on my own at some popular shooting spot and act like I've always been there like a douchebag). Nohomo.

Someone stop me from buying a handgun.

>>34015969
Which handgun?

>>34015996
Glock 17

>>34015969
It's 2017. Why would you NOT buy a gun?

Request
I need to contact Rusty Shackelford of New Brunswick. So Rusty if you see this reply with a way to reach you.

>>34015969
>>34016008
get a 19

>>34016220
>that cucked threaded barrel

No thanks.

>>34016324
better than the fuck huge 17 that's oversized to compliment magazines we don't get.

>>34011678
also
>chick lean

>>34016406
It's on a spectrum like oh oh oh

>>34016358
Is it not better to have a larger grip? Especially when concealment is not an option

>>34006485
The only good I could see come out of this is that I can troll my feminazi cunt sister who literally hates men.

Every recent argument from her had something to do with me being a man. Well, if I identify as a marshmallowmyn, then she will go to jail!

>>33981726
>how are 20% of people fucking this up?
People are retards maybe?

>>34009517
>>34009807
>Brad Trost
So I got an e-mail from all the CPC candidates, because let's be fair, I did sign up to be a member.

Brad Trost sent me two e-mails. One in English, and one in Chinese.

I don't know if he sent the Chinese e-mail to everyone to be inclusive, or if he only sent them to Asian members.

>>34009895
>you want to get the 12.X that goes with it.
I know that's how they used to it in the old days, but now that it's dwenny zebundeen, how likely is it now?

I mean, when the CZ858 and Swiss Arms Green were briefly banned, they just said "lel, turn 'em in" instead of "we're sorry, here's a 12.x for your troubles."

>>34011535
>accessible financially to most, both rifle and ammo
I thought it was ridiculous how cheap the ammo was.

For the price of a case of x54R, I can get roughly double that in x39.

Speaking of which, it's been a while since I've seen any x54R.

>>34015969
>>34016008
The Glock 17 is actually cheaper right now.

I regret buying one last year. Had I bought one today, I would've easily saved around $200.

>>33989474
>UK
Theres your problem.

>>34017729
I once congratulated a British girl for Brexit. So much butthurt, I swear.

>>34010057
Just saw one at Cabelas for $599.

This just came up in my facebook feed.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1093

>Petition to the House of Commons
>Whereas:

>We, the undersigned, residents of Canada draw the attention of the House to the following: That given that the Minister of Public Safety’s unelected Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee will shape the future of firearm regulation in our country, its members must adequately understand and represent the very people affected by its recommendations, being Canada’s shooting community. Therefore, your petitioners, call upon the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness to require individuals appointed to the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee to have earned their Possession and Acquisition License (PAL), without which they lack a baseline understanding of the activities they are tasked with regulating.

>>34019468
Not perfect, but it's at least a little bit better.

>>34019468
>petitions

Politicians laugh at this and wipe their ass with it.

Boys has there been any update on the status of the Ranger's No.4's? Been on the hunt for a nice Enfield recently and hope they'll drive prices down.

>>34020611
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-ranger-rifles-contract-1.3747107
Phase in early 2017, phase out 2019 if there have been no delays.

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>>34016008
G17s are great. I own a Gen 3 OD frame version.

>>34014747
Not much you can do, even when you first come first serve people will whine that you "probably picked someone else". Luckily I've not run into that yet everyone's been gracious.

>>34020611
Surely there aren't that many of them.

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Daily reminder that Crazy Tok Guy is RCMP.

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>>34021573
Can confirm, the rcmp standards are russian conscript teir

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>>34015925
Winnipeg-fag here, I'd be down to help a newfag out. Add me on kik: leon_nagant

P.S I won't murder you in the woods so long as you don't murder me in the woods.

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>>34021739
i-is that an auto sear

>>34022167
Yea

>>34021573
so is Moleman, they occasionally sign out some FA and other Prohibited shit from lockup to go have fun inna woods and take pictures for their honeypot operation on /k/. sad really, as they seem like nice guys, but an easy firearms charge against some autistic dupe from /k/ is just too tempting, much simpler and safer with a bigger reward than going after actual dangerous criminals, looks well on their record and hey, they gotta earn their stripes somehow.

there is a reason CTG has a gen3 G17 but no polymer80 lower as one would expect a supposed law breaking gun nut to have "as insurance" for it. a reason him and Moleman have all these multi-thousand dollar Prohibs and even supposed FAs but neither have done so much as complete an 80% AR lower "just in case" as again you would expect from such careless law breaking gun lovers might do -- the reason is two-fold: all those Prohobs are loners from the collection of confiscated shit and cost them nothing, while 80% shit for their fishing expedition on /k/ will not get budget approval, AND completing 80% firearm would push them into "officers of the law breaking the law themselves" territory, so that's why the first and easiest law breaking thing you would expect them to do isn't the one they are doing. no no, there are apparently all these magical oldfags with all these prohibs and Moleman with his plywood floors can afford dozens of them, while apparently some local gun shop is such tight friends with CTG, they are willing to order some grey area shit for him on the down lo. first it was just CTG with all the prohibs, now he got some for Moleman, who knows, maybe YOU can be his next close friend too! Yay!

like I said, you'd have to be an autist from /k/ to buy this crap.
>PS: 80% shit is also a ticking trap, very soon that little party will come to an end and if you are on one of the whole two dealers' books that sell them in the entire country, recorded as having bought one, expect a visit from CTG and Co

>>34023465
Keep in mind these two have also been reported several times to rcmp with no response.

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>>34023671
>Keep in mind these two have also been reported several times to rcmp with no response
Can anyone confirm this?

Is there any chance of norc ARs dropping in price? I kinda want one of their M16A1 style rifles so I can try to dress it up like a nam style m16a1, but I don't want to spend the same price I spent on my M&P15.

>>34024075
Not unless our dollar goes up.

NEA102, when?

>>34023465
You're a retard.
>Polymer80 lowers
I don't like them. They lack the steel reinforcements of a real Glock frame. Besides, I already got my fingers on a paperless 1911. I don't really need an 80% frame. Though I do plan on getting a pair of AR lowers to complete to match my retro ARs as close as possible, then submit the complete 80% for "destruction" to effectively remove my ARs from the registry.

Also, why would I purchase an 80% lower when haven't even bought my ARs back yet?
>MM has "dozens" of Prohibs
He has one, the full-fun Valmet.
>If you order 80% lowers, expect le RCMP to come fist you to death
I wouldn't expect that, but you will be on some sort of list if you don't order it correctly.
>You could be CTG's friend too!
No, you couldn't. I wasn't aware I was trying to lure young Anons into a van with the promises of candy/Prohibs. Get your own contact, fag.
>>34023671
I hope that's untrue-how very rude. But I wouldn't put it past some salty niggerfaggot here to act like a fudd from CGN and cry to the RCMP.
>NO! NO YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT! NO FUN ALLOWED! I'M TELLING I'M TELLINNNNNNG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I for one like CTG. I'm glad there are people who have the balls to tell the horse cops to eat it.

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>>34025108
Y-you too.

>>34025162
Prove you aren't RCMP. Send us timestamped and geotagged pictures of you and your friends doing illegal things

>>34025162
They will accuse you of samefagging but I like to look at your pics and don't believe you're a cop. Fuck the RCMP. If the government is going to put women's activists on the gun legislation advisory board and openly crusade against gun owners, then they don't deserve a population who follows their laws.

>>34025172
>Prove you aren't RCMP
>By giving us material to send to the RCMP
I'M ON TO YOU MR LAW MANS

>>34025198
Pffft. Officer Smith would never do that.

I just bought a handgun. How long does the transfer process take in ontario? Im dying here.

>>34024931
>NEA102
never ever

>>34025258
at least 2 weeks

>>34025279
When it does happen, it'll be at least twice the cost of a real AR.

>>34025392
>'real AR' M&P15 = $700
>NEA102 apparently aiming for $1500
not sure if you intended for your math to be correct.

My guess:
NEA102 comes out NR. Until first hunting season it's around for. Then some hunter gets seen with one on some trail and then cries to the police about the big scary ak15 they saw.

>>34025392
>>34025423
except NEA 102 is in .308, not 5.56
go ahead and find an AR-10 for $700 (the fact that NEA is also NR notwithstanding)

>>34024931
they are already exporting them and by all accounts and hints the FRT is just a formality being dragged out at this point, so probably fairly soon.
https://youtu.be/HlxVPBmQTMc

if they're smart, they wouldn't be telling everyone the moment they got the green light, instead they would want to build up stock, so they can open the floodgates and start raking in the cash while riding the hype of the new NR from the day of announcement -- people's excitement and attention tend to taper off if you announce something as available and then they have to wait to buy it for months. CGNers in particular have the patience of a monkey on pcp.

>>34025295
Jesus christ. Thats rediculous.

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>>34025826
it can vary from two weeks to well over a month, but anon is right, minimum 2 weeks.
I remember reading that ON has two people responsible for processing transfers, not sure how legit that info is but I could believe it based on the wait times

>>34025919
Ive heard stories about people getting approved the same day, so this is super dissapointing.

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>>34025925
oh yeah, it's actually very easy to observe right now on CGN because of the M&P AR influx. you have people in Alberta and Manitoba posting about their rifles, while Holetarians are still waiting.

especially ridiculous with Ontario dealers, since dudes from Butrfuckville AB got theirs weeks ago and dudes that probably live an hour drive from the store are still waiting

>>34025979
Hopefully this brutal backlog will smarten them up to improve the system. Unlikely...

>>34026194
>CFO
>caring about the gun owners they serve
yeah nah

>>34026220
I mean....yeah you're right...
I ordered an ar from dante sports like last month, i didnt care when that came in. But i jusy bought my first pistol and i want it noooow

>>34026240
what pistola did you buy, esse?

>>34026285
Ruger mark 4 in stainless

>>34025925
back in october I had an approval within 2 days for my mk18, that was magical.

some dealer on cgn posted that in april, 2/3 the the approval/transfer position people for ontario were on vacation and so that created a huge back log. that plus lets guess a 500+ surge over the last two weeks from all these M&Ps, they're really understaffed for the amount of transfers they have to go through.

at least we don't need fucking memberships.

>>34026386
neat

>>34026849
>mk18
ju som kinda puta el mucho dinero, ay?

4realzies tho, isn't the 10.5" 5.56 AR a meme? keep seeing videos about how 5.56 basically turns into a .22lr if it travels below 2600fps, which an sbr pretty much guarantees
>implying you will give me a straight answer after investing into a Mk18

>>34027384
the whole terminal ballistics argument is a meme in and of itself. evening using regular xm193 and xm855 you can get results that disagree with everything the internet says, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N___BbutjD0

you can still attain completely reliable fragmentation out of a short barrel with ammo that's just designed to be able to fragment at lower velocity, like mk262. but that shit is expensive (>$1.50/round) and I probably won't get into reloading for another year or two.

main appeal is that it's super fucking light and small and manoeuvrable and a fun range toy since none of the ranges around me have anything past 200yds. might get an inferiority complex if I ever have to shoot further than that. perfect shtf/wrol/rwds gat too t b h.

>>34027524
that's the thing, roided muhreenz on youtub keep telling me this shit, but logic dictates that while shorter barrel will definitely affect accuracy, it really shouldn't affect tumbling, since: the shorter the barrel the less stable the bullet and therefore the faster it'll tumble on impact

I think some will claim that reliable fragmentation requires certain minimum velocity still, but it seems that if the bullet tumbles, it is already likely to fragment, I mean it's not 3000fps but it isn't going at 20km per hour either, and as the video shows, even if it's not as effective as 20" barrel, it isn't like the effect disappears, just deminished marginally, but not to the point where it would practically matter -- which is why high speed low drag dudes who actually operate operationally keep using them. I mean, if it didn't work, they wouldn't fucking do it, would they?

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>>34027524
>>34027887
Poking holes in center mass still makes shit dead at a very quick rate.

Look at 7.62 AKs, M43 ball has shit tier wounding capabilities but that round and the AK is regarded by morons to have "muh stopping powa"

New thread

>>34027947
>>34027947
>>34027947

>>34027887
>Will definitely affect accuracy
What did he mean by this
>It shouldn't affect tumbling
Fragmenting ball may yaw at any velocity, but it needs to yaw at high velocity to explode into bits.
>The less stable the bullet
No.
>If the bullet tumbles it is more likely to fragment
No.

>>34027938
well, according to people who claim to know ballistics, if you have a tiny bullet, it needs to be fast, to dump that energy into the target. 7.62x39 doesn't rely on speed as much as on size. if you got a bigger bullet, it can move slower, it'll still make a big ass hole and part of the energy it's dumping is being delivered by its own mass, not necessarily speed. whereas, you take a little .223 projectile and toss it at 7.62x39 speed, and it's basically a light bullet traveling slow, so it becomes more of a competitor to a .22lr than to the AK round.

>>34027993
shorter barrel doesn't stabilize the bullet as well as longer barrel, it also doesn't impart the same initial velocity, this affects accuracy. what is unclear about this?

you are right, but the question is, what is exactly constitutes this "high velocity". plenty of test show standard 855 and 193 fragmenting out of 7.5" barrels.

>>34028092
Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy, except with bullet drop, which is minor at combat distances.

>>34009854
Lee Enfield, Longbranch #4 if you can

>>34025258
It depends, Is it your first handgun? Probably 2 weeks. My second one....4days, third one, 2 weeks again. I guess it depends on how busy they are in Orillia.

>>34025925
Friend of mine was less than a week on his first purchase. No rhyme or reason to it.

>>34025067
Enjoy your inevitable visit from the ERT :^)