/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

What is the R A R Est AK related thing you've got?

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>>33794788
Brown plum

Are theses worth it? http://palmettostatearmory.com/case-of-42-blem-croatian-ak-47-7-62x39mm-30rd-capacity-magazine-steel-w-bolt-hold-open.html

>>33794788
larry snickers blue force sling

>>33794935
>http://palmettostatearmory.com/case-of-42-blem-croatian-ak-47-7-62x39mm-30rd-capacity-magazine-steel-w-bolt-hold-open.html
they dont fit in most aks, garbage

>>33794788
Plum molds and 3 slot I guess, unless you count my out of production light

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>>33794788

probably my flecked izzy plum

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>>33794788
Probably my Fleur-de-Lis mag, North Korean mag is second.

>>33794935
No.

Izolenta tape, Russian tourniquets, GP-25 recoil pads, Armacon selector

>>33794948
>>33794972
OK I'm going to get 100 of them

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>>33794788
D E F E C T

Or my mold 17 true blacks, but the mags and brake aren't really "rare" in the same sense as something that is actually rare

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>>33795034
ok, buy 100 and sell them for $30 each when the next panic hits.

>>33794980
Lemme get a leather strap tho

AK newfag here,

So I noticed in the buyerguide pastebin that PSA GB2 kits were good to go, but I've seen a bunch of hate threads on AKfiles and general sperging out. Is this a case of the vocal minority / few unlucky recipients of classical PSA customer service or should I avoid?

Thanks faggots.

>>33795061
That's not a bad idea but I don't like being a merchant

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anu cheeki breeki

>>33794788
Nothing worthwhile.

>>33794864
Never heard of that. Are those a thing?

>>33794952
Did it get through customs yet?

>>33794970
Thinking about it I've seen quite a few really flecked Tula plums but never an Izzy plum as flecked as yours.

>>33794972
I wish I could find a FDL for as cheap as you got yours.

>>33795046
I don't know, I've never seen another long collar brake missing a hole or any other mold 17 true blacks outside of the ones you have.

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>>33795087
I would avoid, buy something made in a former combloc country.

>>33795102
That's the only reason you should be buying them, they are shit. Get fucked.

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>>33794788

>>33795087
Hey don't be asking questions about aks in this thread

>>33795125
USPS doesn't say anything about it, but I've had ones that just didn't update. USPS sent me a letter asking me if I actually received one of em

>>33795087
they cut corners on production and 98% are doodoo

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>>33794788
This

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>>33795125
>I've never seen another long collar brake missing a hole or any other mold 17 true blacks outside of the ones you have
Yeah but the mold 17s are just like every other mold 17 out there, they made a ton and are no different than any other true black mag minus the number, and the brake is literally Ivan forgot to drill a hole and Dmitri didn't notice before he painted it

I mean I still think they're cool but they are what they are

>>33795128
So you've used them?

>>33795137
What am I looking at?

>>33795274
threads on akfiles about croat mags and rob made a vid about them being shit

>>33795253
I think you're just being modest.

>>33795306
It's aluminum

>>33795137
>>33795306
early prod steel mag?

>>33795339
Nigga I'm just saying it how it is, compared to actual rare stuff like prototype mags and things with an extremely limited production number or things where not many have been brought into the US, all three of which there are guys in /akg/ who have stuff like that, they're not even remotely close to rare

>>33795383
Shoot meant for >>33795319

>>33795383
What

>>33795383
They think it don't be like it is
But it do

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>>33795395
Didn't mean to reply to Chimps, I need a third hand to type while driving a stick in stop and go traffic :^)

>>33795309
Seen that. Also read that you can fix with a Dremel

>>33795420
>driving and channing
I should be mad but I do this too

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>>33795125
It is .

>>33795137
Jesus, how much you spend on that.

>>33795418
S-sorry pls no bully

>>33795438
I live on the edge plus I'm on the clock and getting paid for it plus it's one step closer to dying while doing what I love

>>33795462
>one step closer to dying while doing what I love
I was actually on 4chan too when I got hit come to think of it. Now I get to think about the fact that if I had died the last thing I woulda done was shitpost

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Do underfolder dongs for yugos exist?

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Just got my lee armory rifle in today and shot it for a bit the thing looks and shoots great

Glad ak operators union did a video so we could get some good info on them great purchase I'd say

>>33795534

Yeah dude I got mine awhile ago an I think they're great! Good build quality and they can be pretty cheap on sale!

>>33795383
Well yes in context of actual rare stuff they're not as rare, but that can be said of a lot of AK stuff. They're still rare in their own way. Let's ask Chimps: are they rare?

Don't text and drive.

>>33795534
>>33795546
hmm

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>>33794788
>Vepr "PUD" case.
>One of only 2 in the country that I know of
But really, it's probably my Type 63 Chinese Black Phenolic 20 rounder.

>>33795137
>Not the Daily Dose pair
K den.

Have you seen the 40 rounders on the Files?
>I don't need it, I don't need it

East German, Polish, or Romanian side folding stock.
Which is best or does it not matter?

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>>33795637
Yeah, I actually messaged the guy asking if he can show me feedback from elsewhere, which he did. Been thinking about offering $100 less than his asking price or so.

>>33795569
It's rare in its own vein, there are probably very few like it in the entire world, but for the reason that it was a mistake. It's its own little oddity.

The mold 17s are certainly uncommon but I would not really call them rare. Most likely tons of people have those mags, they just don't sperg over the mold numbers.

>>33795611
Nice

>>33795569
Who are you gonna tell, my mom??

Chimps isn't a credible source for rare, only for memes, leg hair, and how to be tsundere

>>33795715
That's what I was trying to get at here >>33795253. They're not rare but the question was what's the rarest AK related thing you've got and those are what I've got

>they just don't sperg over the mold numbers.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I like them, like the Count from Sesame Street except for mold numbers

Is there any """""arm brace""""" that looks good on an AK pistol? Since the STF backtracked on the whole "don't shoulder braces" thing I wanna grab a gun and a brace before the prices jump.

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How do you tell an EG Type II bayonet from a Yugo, Egyptian, or something else that's a type II with black handles? I have a black handled type 2 bayonet but I'm unsure where it's from

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>>33795715
>Been thinking about offering $100 less than his asking price or so.
I was thinking something similar.
Fuck though, I really don't need to blow that kind of money on a mag I'll rarely use.
But I'm still considering it.

>>33795724
Thanks.

>>33795860
Post it.
The EG has a "ring" on the scabbard that goes around the side.
The Yugo just has a "dot" on one side
>Not sure about Egyptian bayos.

>>33795939
Egyptian ones are just really shitty looking like most Egyptian AK stuff.

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>>33794788
Finnish Green Polymer Magazine

>>33795534
>>33795546
Grats on buying a rifle from a slimy as fuck maker.

Unless that's you shilling your own rifles, Rudy. In which case, please kill yourself.

>>33796066
Was Rudy the guy who ratted on a fellow builder (don't recall offhand who, Jmac maybe) to the ATF about them allegedly not serializing receivers?

>>33795501
none do, unless you want custom

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Previously on Anon's Autism:

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>>33796296
Today on Anon's Autism:

>>33794788
Prototype 74u booster

>>33796123
Yes, the dude who owns Lee Armory. His name is LITERALLY Rudy Shekelberg

>>33796313
No way dude that can't be his name

>>33796361
It's not. It's Rudy Schenkenberg

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Swapped some grips around. Now my sar is tactical.

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>>33796536

>>33796550
One of your better creations

>>33796625
Do you think it would look better with the zenit brake ?

>>33795715
I could've got the mold 17 7.62 polymer slab but I chose 10 instead. Lower mold #s better imo

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>>33796658
No, you'll have crossed the event horizon and would require full tactical

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>>33796750
Mine is a mold 10 as well. All the ribbed ones are mold 1 from what I've seen.

It's funny, right now the ribbed ones are common and the slabsides are rare, but in the semi-distant future, I imagine the ribbed ones will be harder to come by.

>>33796802
I-is that yours

>>33796817
Slab prices have definitely dropped drasitcally. But you're right. Ribbed polymers have been more readily available

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>>33794788

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>>33796802
See you on the other side.

>>33796963
Go ahead and buy an AK9 hg

>>33796969
But i dont need a rail and id rather buy ammo.

>>33796829
Yeah, having trouble dating it

>>33796996
Bullshit, file size is too small

>>33796141
I have been planning on making one

>>33797115
I'll proofs later. I don't really know what to do with it desu as I've never seen a kit even remotely early enough to host it properly

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Picked up my rifle before work today, pretty excited. The only problems I can see are the rear trunnion rivets were formed kind of oddly, and the fact that the carrier's finish is worn away.

>>33797101
This is my favorite permutation of your rifles I've seen by far

>>33797101
*heavy breathing*
deets?

>>33797204
Was that the bugly kit rifle for 900$?

>>33797215
Just my basic bitch saiga in plum.

>>33796428
Pretty close though

>>33797261
That I can agree to

>>33797161
That's bullshit but I believe it

How did you get it senpai? Did you get lucky or did you know what you were buying?

>selling my broke dick WW74 tomorrow
>putting the money to a pap pistol
I am stoked niggas

we can shoulder braces now?

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>>33797244
Different anon, I picked this up off a guy on the files for about $700 after fees. It's also a ((10)) kit as far as I can tell, with a very very dirty piston
Need to get some polymer and a surplus grip now and I'll be happy

>>33797269
just stumbled across it, bought it knowing it was different but unsure what it meant. Doing some research I found another for sale on the files

I just realized that if I do buy an rguns 88 kit and get it built I just sold a US made brake and US made furniture so I'll have to get more to send off with the kit for builder 922r so he doesn't mess with any original parts

Chimps how hard is it to install the rear folding trunnion on an AK. Considering an SGL-21 fixed stock and then doing just the rear myself, then I'll have the front part installed later

Just not sure what's more economical

>>33797354
Just don't send any brake at all and it won't count towards the foreign parts number. It's not how many US parts, it's how many foreign parts that counts.

Just make sure to leave a note saying the brake isn't with it or the builder might think he lost it.

>>33797281
You buy an arm brace with the intent to use it as an arm brace. But if after you buy it you just happen to shoulder it, that's fine.

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>>33797397
you want the link or what nigga?
>same guy that posted the hyper early booster link

from what I gather the hook location on the receiver has remained in roughly the same spot....

>>33797391
Those welds. So profound!

>>33797394
It *can* be done with a dremel, a hand drill, and a hydraulic press, but it will probably look like shit unless you're very skilled. You will have to demill the rear trunnion without fucking up the receiver, cut the receiver for the hardware, and press the rivets for the rear trunnion. You gotta decide for yourself if you are skilled enough to do that to a >$1000 preban.

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>>33797474

>>33797397
But I'll still need some US furniture, correct?

I figure if I do get it and send it in I'll send my old Arsenal two stage FCG and maybe my polymer US made folding stock, but admittedly I'm 100% new to anything build related so I have no idea how 922r works with builders and what I would need to send with it so the builder doesn't do like you say and use a US made piston or something

>>33797482
>>33797469
Yesss pls
I tried to find it on Snorr's page but I'm not seeing it

I didn't know that you meant it was still for sale

>>33797521
Different guy, I just stumbled on it trying to figure out what the one I bought was. You'll be paying less than I did as he just did a price drop with no takers
>http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304294

>>33797552
I'm buying it first :^^^))

>>33797521
My bad I wasn't wording my thoughts very well. I'm the same guy that passed along the files Snorr link for the booster lol
>the least I can do

>>33797503
On my 1968 kit, my foreign parts are:
Barrel
Trunnion
Muzzle attachment
Bolt
Bolt carrier
Gas piston
Butt stock
Handguard

That's 8 parts. It wouldn't be legal with a foreign magazine, but that's not on the builder, I will obviously only ever use my tapcos in that AK to keep it compliant.

>>33797552
Thank you so much, I can't believe this hasn't sold, fuckin morons

>>33797567
Y-YAMERO

>>33797595
Meant to say 1969

I substituted the pistol grip for a US made one even though at 8 parts, that wasn't really necessary

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>>33797595
I know, $110..score. cheers

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>>33797615
I will probably never have a use for it, but I find these curios to be so alluring

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>>33794713
just got my mags in today.

>>33797595
So, assuming I get it and send it in with the following foreign parts:
>stock
>PG
>HGs
>bolt
>carrier
>piston
>trunnion
>barrel
>muzzle brake
and either just don't include a mag or send it in with a tapco or something that should be good, or if I do like you said and just don't sent a brake it'll drop the parts by one and still be good

So I can pretty much just send the kit in as is with a US FCG, just keep the original FCG for it at home to obviously not swap out when I get the complete rifle, not send in a mag or send a cheap US mag, and still be good, correct?

Here I am planning a hypothetical build that I have absolutely zero parts for

>>33797747
It's probably different for different builders, what they'll accept, but hypothetically yeah

>>33797771
Ah ok, I didn't know it might be different depending on who I'd end up sending it to

>>33797688
You should buy less mags and better living space.

>>33797688
Korean?

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>>33797688
Nice, uhm... artwork

>>33797688
Is that a box of MREs?

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I became hazAK today, got my Arsenal SLR-107R, very happy with it, put 160 rounds of assorted steel case through it without issue.

Anyone has questions feel free to ask

>>33795137
Numbers look east german but the welds sure don't.

>>33797885
Working on it.

>>33797905
Croation

>>33797933
Thanks.

>>33798054
No its packing material for the ak mags.

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Hey Zasta isn't this your pic? I was watching a video on Youtube about the fall of Yugoslavia by a channel called Feature History and saw this. Don't you have a few pics of guns laid out on flags, and quite a few of them are Yugo?

>>33798373
And yes obviously it's mirrored before some moron comments on that.

>>33798373
I do have a few pictures like that but that one isn't mine. (Tfw no M70AB2)

>>33798387
ite just making sure this homeboy didn't steal my boi's pic without asking or something

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>>33798408
Ya got my back

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>>33798420
u kno it m'kang

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neat

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>>33798377
Here m8, have the non-mirrored version

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>>33798450
Mu-lady

>>33798377
Why hasnt anyone made a total left handed ak yet?

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'69 Izzy that I'm 95% done building
(1/2)

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>>33799127
Built on a recreatorblanks 80% heat treated blank with Polish cold hammer forged barrel. Just need to drill and pin the barrel components and gas port, test fire and zero, then clean up and paint
(2/2)

>>33798529
What, the wrench cutouts?

>>33798690
Because that would be retarded. You'd have to mirror the barrel, bolt, bolt carrier, front trunnion, receiver, dust cover, selector, and probably more shit I'm not thinking of. Essentially it'd be a huge pain in the ass.

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>>33798690
the most difficult part imo is working the safety. Polish Tantal rifles addressed this.

The doctrine is not the same as with an AR; most don't teach the constant safety actuation that AR users tend to use.

>>33799362
>that would be retarded
Have you seen half the shit on the market today? They specialize in stupidity.

>>33799674
>>33798690
(cont.) This gentleman demonstrates the method I use to actuate the safety.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OdBx-nnwF4

>>33799688
The point is that like 80% of the components would be left hand specific.

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>>33798337
It's Russian

>>33798361
>Croation magazines
Wasted your money anon. And you're a grown ass man get those memes off your wall, fuck sake.

>>33800090
Hey Chimps, RogersNative has some Izhmash triangles for sale, can you tell from any of the pics he has if any would be correct for a 1988 AKS74? Do you have any reference material showing the stock variations so I can stop asking you to spoon feed me cuz I feel dumb and bad :^

>>33800534
>He can't tell the autistic variations of triangle stocks
Sad!

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>>33800556
Just never paid much attention to the differences in triangle folders 2bh so I never learned. I can tell you a lot of autistic detail about the different barrel components over the years of production but I've just never learned about triangles

No bully!!

>>33800581
Muzzle brakes =/= barrel components.

>>33800596
Not just brakes, different FSB, GB, and RSB variations by general year too

Just because I like brakes and have some brakes doesn't mean that that's all I know when I say "barrel components" nigga, I'm not that retarded

>>33800622
>I'm not that retarded
Hmmmmmm....

>>33800643
Ya got me, in truth I'm a genuine helmet wearing window licker

>>33799354
Just not something I've seen for sale before

What are romainian 3 cell pouches worth?

>>33801114
without even looking, probably between ~10 and 20 bucks on ebay

>>33800534
I don't know of any variations between izzy triangles aside from having or not having holes in the buttplate and the different angle on the really early ones. All the other 4.5mm ones should be the same in construction. If you want to get one that was actually probably made in the 80's and not one of the new production ones you should probably get one from group 2 or 3. Those are most likely actual AKS-74 takeoffs and will have deeper struck proof marks of the era.

>>33801114
~$7

>>33801182
Cool, thank you. Now I've gotta decide if I want more or less finish wear. I like the look of more but I don't want the triangle to be out of place on the rifle if it's all worn and the rifle isn't. These kinds of decisions are hard

74ullc receivers finally ship after 2 weeks in preshipment. Expected delivery date today. Usps doesn't deliver to shop on saturdays. Work all week and can't pick up until next weekend. God fucking damnit

>>33801271
Try and call UPS and reschedule the delivery. Give them the mumbo jumbo

>>33801297
I'm just going to let it be. I feel if I try anything they'll some how end up across the country and the cuckening will further continue

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Turns out thar mystery bayo was east german.

I've got a lead on an 1987 Izhmash AK74 kit that I'm thinking about picking up. Should I have it built as an AK-74 or an AKS-74? I've already got an SLR-104fr and an SLR-104ur but I don't have any fixed stock AK-74s. An AKS-74 clone would be cool but do I really need another folder?

>>33801826
Depends on what you want. I'm the anon really thinking about picking up an 88 kit and I was kind of on the fence about what I want about that too for a bit. A fixed plum stock would be cool but in the end AKS74s are just cooler IMO

>>33801826
Fixed stock because you already have a folder. Or wait until you see the condition of the plum stock. My plum stock was kind of beat up so that made the decision easier.

>>33801812
Got a pic ? I also have a east German. Mine is akm patterm

>>33801880
Really thinking about it. Just pull the fucking trigger.

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>>33801918

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>>33801948
Proof marks

>>33801918
I'll get you one when i get home. I have both pattern East Germans

>>33801924
I will soon enough, gotta move some funds around. I don't have $620 laying around right now so I've got to hold off a little bit

>>33801911
A fixed plum stock would be nice but a period correct late 80s plum and triangle rifle is my favorite AK configuration ever so it's really hard not wanting to go for a triangle

All plum is really nice though and in a perfect world I'd love to have both

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>>33799144

>>33802007
>can't afford to just drop $600 on a whim on a box of old AK parts
iktf

>>33801826
>>33801880
Both of you should keep in mind that the 87/88 kits have the dimple-pressed barrel components, rather than pinned ones. You'll need to find a builder who can recreate those; off the top of my head the ones I know who can do it are Meridian and POHF, probably JBI too.

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Who can tell me where to find one of these buttstock pads? I've seen pads that are kind of close, but never this exact pad.

I'd like to do a clone because reasons.

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>>33802473
wrong pad.

This is the pad I'm looking for

>>33802484
Iirc, those are part of the ZenitCo bullpup kit, which I'm not sure are available to the general public.

You could try asking the guys at russian-thunder, they might know.

>>33802509
>>33802509
They more than likely don't make it and haven't for a while, I've talked to them about production before and they cycle things in and out along with just straight dropping some things

For example they haven't made any stocks or 4.5mm hinges for months now

>>33802455
Yeah I know, Meridian is the one I've got in mind when I finally pick up an 88 kit, or if I really want to go all out and can afford to pay for it I'd love to have Mario at POHF do it. Meridian looks like they do good work for a little cheaper than POHF but my autism might make me pony up money for POHF

>>33802509
I've talked to them about it before and they pretty much said no. I was just curious if anybody could find them on some obscure Russian website.

I can find almost all of the other shit and I even have the images of the patents for the trigger bar, but that one part eludes me.

>>33802550
>but my autism might make me pony up money for POHF
If Mario ever gets back to you.

>>33802562
Yeah yeah I know, honestly another big reason why I was considering Meridian was that they'll actually answer

If I decide I truly want him I'll bug him every single day until he gets back to me

>>33802599
>If I decide I truly want him I'll bug him every single day until he gets back to me
Sadly enough, that's probably what it'll take too.

>>33802646
Honestly that kind of stuff pisses me off. At work we've got an old hydraulic lift gate that broke down and the only local guy that can fix it doesn't pick up his damn phone. It's like we're trying to give you money and you're making it difficult for us to put money in your pocket. Those kinds of business owners are super frustrating, even if they do good work

>>33802550
Meridian just finished an 88 kit and has photos of it and the dimple work on their IG, so you can get an exact idea of what you'd get back.

Just be aware that they're still heavily backlogged from the election, but, as anon said, at least you can actually call and expect to get a person on the other end of the line with regularity.

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Wew

>>33803030
B O Y C O T T Z O N E

It's actually worse than the story suggests too. A friend of mine does "on the ground" work for the NRA and told me that Springfield Armory said they'd drop opposition in exchange for a carve out from the very beginning, which severely undercut the NRA's opposition to the bill. They hoped that the CEO at SA would bring their lobbyists in line, but he came out in support of dropping opposition as well, which is what helped them get over the 30 vote mark.

Fuck Springfield Armory. I was gonna buy a 1911 from them but now I'll probably have to find a Colt I like instead because I'm not a huge fan of the Sig 1911s and Ruger/Remington fall under my "fuck those guys" list too.

>>33803244

the feel when you start to realize 99% of u.s manufacturers are shit companies compared to their euro counterparts

>>33803244
Anyone else on that boycott list?

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>lets try this again

>>33803367
The real question is, why haven't you installed your tactical fleshlight yet?

>>33795611
what is that magazine on the left??

>>33803339
Just RRA (who I've never bought anything from anyway) and SA. Ruger is on the "fuck em" list for Bill Ruger making it clear you can do this bullshit and get away with it, but he's dead so if I ever pick up a 10/22 I won't feel that awful about it.

Modern Remington wouldn't know good QC if it plugged them in the ass at 1200 FPS though, so fuck em.

Just got back from the NRA
No arsenal, kvar, DDI, or the like
Century was showing off their shit AKs. They did have dracos that I was interested in
PSA had new PSAK varaiants including a triangle sidefolder. Too bad their AKs are dead to me after I mistakingly bought a gen 1 that I still can't get rid of. They had the hottest booth babes of the show. I'm regretting not getting a pic with one.
Magpul had prototype 5.45 mags. I asked about metal reinforcements. He said no, because they designed it in a way that they don't need it. Fucking BS.
Not much else in the ways of the AK

FN 509 and CZ P10c both look promising
Springfield XDE was meh. Nice to see a new DA/SA gun though

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>>33803244

>I was gonna buy a 1911 from them but now I'll probably have to find a Colt I like instead because I'm not a huge fan of the Sig 1911s and Ruger/Remington fall under my "fuck those guys" list too.

The dan wesson valor goes for around $1500 and it's the best production 1911 I own.

what oil does the Russian army use for their weapons?

>>33803598

Rosneft makes a custom blend for them, it's motor oil with solvent added to it.

>>33803567
Not him but the reset on those is phenominal. Beautiful 1911, best option imo if you can afford one.
I don't have $1,500 for a 1911 now :/

>>33803567
BABY WANTS A COMMANDER BOBTAIL

>>33803529
Says it right in the post m8
>Type 63 Chinese Black Phenolic 20 rounder

>>33803565
>Magpul had prototype 5.45 mags. I asked about metal reinforcements. He said no, because they designed it in a way that they don't need it. Fucking BS.
Typical and when they finally get reinforcements, they still won't get it right.

Hopefully they at least do the 5.45 drum they said they were going to do. It'd only be good for fucking around on the range, but still.

>>33803822
I didnt see anything about AK drums there

No one has a helical mag, do they?

>>33803881
Sounds about right. I'm used to companies saying that they'll do something and never following though.

>>33803891
Zasta has two helical bizon mags

>>33803565

>they designed it in a way that they don't need it

Otherwise known as the "when you inevitably break your mags you have to buy more from us" method of sales. There's no reason to buy their reinforced mags now that the superior Russian surplus mags are fucking everywhere.

>FN 509

I'm not going to lie, I want to shoot one.

>>33803565
Did they say how much the dracos would be? They are out of stock everywhere.

>>33803268
Fuck off fag

>>33803244
Why ruger?

>>33804021
You're in the minority here

Just like how high quality gun manufacturers are in the minority in the US

>>33803244
Bill Ruger has been dead for a long time, dude

>>33804056
Definitely not

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>>33804021
kys nigger

>>33804036
Some people still think Bill Ruger is alive for some reason. Ruger today has really made it clear they want nothing to do with that shithead's politics and are surely powering their factories from him spinning in his grave.

>>33804104
There are far, far fewer quality manufactures than shitty manufactures in the US.

That and many of the quality manufacturers in the US are actually foreign. They simply have locals assemble their products here.

>>33803918
It felt great in the hand and trigger was pretty good.
>>33804006
I didn't bother looking. My guess would be the same as they've been. They had magpul pistol grips if I remember correctly. Other than that they were a basic draco.
>>33804036
Probably because of Bill Ruger. Which would be a dub reason since he's ling dead and the company obviously doesnt support what he did. What this guy said >>33804063

>>33804141
Oh go fuck your self Euro fag

>>33804196
Just curious because dracos are out of stock EVERYWHERE I'm guessing they are raising prices.

>>33803030
What is even happening?

>>33804185
There's still more good manufacturers In the US than Euro

these mags are good, yes? I don't know much about 7.62 mags as I do 5.45.
https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=MAK47Y30

>>33804362
look okay

>>33804362
>33804362
Yugo is good to go if you don't mind bolt hold open

Am I missing something or can you really build an Uzi for like 700 bucks

>>33794713

So there are a billion different tutorials for how to make AK mags fit. Is the best method to just file down around the magazine's lugs or are the guys saying to file the receiver right?

My AK is too tight for bakelite, steel, and polymer magazines. The magazines will rock in but the rear lug will not lock.

>>33804412
what ak, also force it in

>>33804394
Well it's for >>33803392 so I thought yugo mags were appropriate.

>>33804422

It's a bulgarian. I can't force them in to the point where they lock except for shitco mags.

>>33804258
>There's still more good manufacturers In the US than Euro
That wasn't the argument
learn2comprehend

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What's the consensus on these mags, decent or no? It's the one that came with my rifle, feels so light and flimsy. It's my first AK mag so not sure if all polymer ones are supposed to feel like that or what

>>33799144
WHY is your stock so fucked up?

>>33804948

They are good enough for range plinking but they will get fucked up quickly.

>>33805148
He just hasn't fit it yet.

>>33804120
>tfw you will never own a PKM, let alone a full fun one

>>33804948
That's a bulgarian commercial mag. They're flimsy shits, only food for range use. Get some (10) or (21) mags if you want to stick with Bulgarian. You'd probably be better off with Russian bakes or plums OR East German bakes.

>>33805340
Shoosting one on your taxes is fun enough

>>33805437
What?

>>33805437
thanx 4 ur cervix

>>33805568
I think he's referring to the ISIS :)

THE TASTE...OF THE COCK.....IN YOUR MOUTH...!

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Whats the absolute cheapest authentic Russian red dot? Bonus points for built in/included side rail

>>33805775
PKA

>>33805832
HAHA PKA LOWER THAN THE SNAKE SHIT

Where is a good place to get quality steel mags? My first AKM is in the mail and I want to get a good stash going.

Does anyone have the axes and shiieett meme?

>>33805910
Any surplus steel magazines will work. Avoid all commercial made mags, rather croatian, Korean, etc

>>33806010
What about these? And is that a good price?

http://gunmagwarehouse.com/bulgarian-ak-47-7-62x39mm-30-round-steel-magazine.html

>>33806053
New production is always questionable. But I'm sure they're fine if they're bulgarians. Price, eh

>>33805910
What akm?

>>33806053
>Any surplus, avoid commerical
>What about these commercial made magazines?

>>33806096
WASR
>>33806130
Dude, idk I'm new to AKs and someone in the reviews said it's circle 10 which I've heard is good.

So where do I find surplus steel mags then?

>>33806197
Never got into wasrs. Honestly man, you can always find surplus romanian steel mags at shows pretty cheap. Ak files a bunch.

>>33806197
>Dude, idk I'm new to AKs and someone in the reviews said it's circle 10 which I've heard is good.
I always love when newfriends show up and get angry and then demand for help.
>So where do I find surplus steel mags then?
Literally just apex is alright, sometimes aimsurplus. Like with any online gun purchase, don't use your CC, use a disposable because a lot of card processors for these sites tend to get compromised.

>>33804761
>the feel when you start to realize 99% of u.s manufacturers are shit companies compared to their euro counterparts
Yeah sure it's not dipshit

>>33806218
Can't find many places online with Romanian ones in stock.. no gun shows for a while around here.. how are People mags?
https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=MAK47P30

>>33806323
Not even him but if you think the measure of a company is purely the "quality" of it's products then you're a fucking moron.

>>33806336
Oh I actually snagged a few of those just to have. I didn't have any issues. Honestly most of my steels are romanian and russian that I've had for a long time

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>>33806425
holy shit I want

>>33806384
Thanks. I think I'll get a half dozen or so. Price is right

>>33806338
Yeah like a fucking moron who jumps in a argument and then misconstrued what it said.

>>33806536
Yes six is good to start. Enjoy

>>33806533
I might share from it if I find anything good.

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>>33794713
Fucking gun store near me is selling WASRs for 400 but I'm a canuckistani
Is this what it feels like to be cucked goddammit america why

>>33807076
That's a pretty good deal

>>33807076
I can promise you that no gun store in Canada is selling Wasrs, and no gun store in the US is selling Wasrs for $400 for that matter

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thoughts on Atlantic polish WBP rifles?

they have Radom barrels.

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>>33807115
I'm in WA. Their listing says it even comes with three mags.
But I'm on a TN visa and I don't have a hunting license.

>>33807129
My concern is that I believe they use a cast bolt.

>>33807160
Where in WA

Gimme a $400 WASR or three

>>33807076
damn, best we get around here are $500-550 NPAPs from time to time

>>33807175

I thought the new WBP parts were all forged, but why the FUCK is no one trying to import assembled WBP guns, they would get fuckin rich if they priced them at $700

>>33807197
Only the front trunnions are forged for some reason. Also probably the reason why they're not bringing them in is they don't see the money in it. Poland isn't as poor as Romania and Buglaria.

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>>33807182
Pinto's. Perhaps its a typo but damn worth trying.
I need to switch my damn visa. Or become a deerfucker, which is probably easier.

>>33807197

Paperwork to import is at the ATF, According to Atlantic firearms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oauYjMsf3Ak&t=321s&spfreload=10

>>33807129
Personally I'd buy one if they were built on a Recreator, 74ullc, or even a Childers receiver. Those receivers without the proper markings and without the Y and I stamps are gross.

>>33807284
It better be. I want me Y and I stamped Polish WASRs

>>33807233

Arsenal pays $120 for a SLR107, theres plenty of money to be made.

>>33807233
There is nothing wrong with the rear trunnion being cast, rear trunnions have been cast since the 60's. All it does is stop the bolt carrier.

It's more important for the front trunnion to be tough because the locking lugs need to be hard enough that the headspace won't walk out over time, but not too hard or it will crack..

>>33807233

Izhmash uses cast gas blocks and trunnions, and have for over 3 decades.

>>33807295
They pay more like $300 a rifle at most. Military contract prices =/= smaller commerical sales. Also you ignored the part of
>Poland isn't as poor as Romania and Bulgaria
A Polish rifle would probably cost them a good $450-500. Then add the extra $300-500 for some dickhead here in the states to unfuck it from the import sporting bullshit. It's not worth it unless they can reduce, to a minimum, the amount of work they have to do on the rifles. Plus for whatever reason the ATF doesn't Radom and by extension most Polish manufacturers.
>inb4 hurr it's WBP not Radom

>>33807355

How do you know they pay $300? I know they pay $120 (as of 2014) due to it being disclosed in a court case.

>>33807333
I'm referring to the fact that the bolts aren't forgings either. Lrn to read or else I'll start posting pics of your ex

>>33807341
Lrn 2 reading comprehension. The issue is that the bolt isn't a forging. The only info on them refers to them as "machined" which I'd assume would be milled from a billet but we don't know that for sure.

>>33807399
>>33807393
You're a fucking idiot

>>33807381
It's extremely unlikely they're paying $120 per rifle unless they're just getting them as barreled receivers or something.

>>33807403
Lmao, poor little tripfag got btfo because he couldn't bother to read my fucking post right and draw a little inference.

>>33807284
>inb4 it has that stupid combination fsb/gas block that came with some of the kits, the stupid paddle selector, and a bunch of other stupid shit no one wants.

>>33807393
rude

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>>33807413

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>>33807454
You're being unnecessarily dickish tonight. What's wrong? Just remember that time that Uncle Bobby, who wasn't really your uncle, touched you in your no no square?

>>33807428
>inb4 it's this
https://youtu.be/4dp60-SE1zM

>>33807488
sorry

>>33807545
Look me in the digits and say it like you mean it

>>33807587
Fuck, one off

>>33794713
Should I get a milled or stamped ak74? I was thinking of going with milled just for that buttery smooth action, but everyone says go stamped.

>>33807914
>milled 74
I don't think that's a thing, is it?

>>33807927
I think Waffen Werks made some before they went to shit.

>>33807927
I was looking at some Bulgarian AK74, and when I went on gunbroker I was surprised to find that they do make them milled as well.

It was Arsenal Circle 10

New thread

>>33808179

>>33808179

>>33808179

>>33794788
Iraq bringback Izhevsk AKM bayonet or Tula bakelite AKM magazine without metal reinforcements