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NFA goodness thread
(were never getting HPA)

Old thread
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>>33638398
>allowing people to shoot eachother without alerting anyone is perfectly acceptable

Wonde rhow the inner cities will fair with the HPA in order

now they can murder innocents quietly
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>>33638398
>were never getting HPA
Explain yourself
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I want a SCAR 17. Someone not poor tell me where to find one.

>hard mode: I live in CA
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this thread sucks
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Why are there so few good Insurgency mods for what I want
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>>33638425
Preppers had one for 3.3k.
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How heavy is too heavy?
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>>33638425
CA legal SCAR? no you dont
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>>33638464
11.3lbs
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>>33638417
gun rights are a game for politicians to use once they're unpopular, to drum up support they start talking about how much they love gun freedom to get re-elected
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>>33638439
>OOS
fuck. Thanks for a site though

>>33638466
Who said I'm complying? :^)
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New rail came today.

Much happiness
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>>33638398
someone explain this meme where people have like 7 of the same exact basic bitch AR
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>>33638507
Their black hat is better
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Did I do good? I also have a Strike fire ii in a canterlever mount. R8 or H8
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>>33638528
Inarguably a great shot
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>>33638531
:^( now much sadness
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>>33638558
he full of it fde is 8x as gucci

black is whack
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>>33638425
SCAR 17s or SR-15?
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>>33638536
CL gas system/10

ehh, I like Stag Arms though.
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>>33638581
Are you saying anon got worst rail? That's not right
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>>33638425
This rifle doesn't convince me you can afford a SCAR.
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>>33638594
no
i mean hat
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>>33638585
yes
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>>33638507
Should've waited for mk14.
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>>33638585
FNH SCAR 17s with a FDE color scheme, if you want to be pedant about it
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>>33638635
No way, its a bad idea
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>>33638528
Sorry. Gucci but ugly.
>>33638585
Scar > Just another ar10.
>>33638607
He didn't over spend on shitty 5.56 ar so he can spend $ on scar. Can you even logic?
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>>33638560
Is that a specwar suppressor??
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>>33638466
all it needs is a grip wrap and a locked stock

pic related is a ca legal scar too

although i don't know why you'd want to do that to it
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>>33638667
>ugly
no
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>>33638607
I specifically asked the poor to not reply.
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>>33638425
>>33638585

SCAR is easy, just find CA compliant versions or find a middleman that is willing to convert and ship to CA. SR-15 is banned by name so you're never getting one.
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>>33638670
Yep
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>>33638710
I just got one. Havent been able to pick it up yet but my stamp is here. I got the K version. How do you like it and what length is your barrel?
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>>33638681
"Featureless" the easiest way to get one DROSed in CA. I could fly to Texas and get one there, but I don't have a lot of time to do that right now.
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>>33638667
cut your dick off and bleed out, sakuya
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Gun Jesus has an AR. It's a Colt CAR-15 clone.
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>>33635975

So random question, what counts as an illegal muzzle/silencer device?
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>>33638690
>buy sr30
>buy sr15 upper
Commies lose again
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>>33638788
Anything that lowers the volume of your firearm. If you put a pillow on it, the pillow is now a silencer. Do you even into law?
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>>33638722
I like the size, reduction and weight, but the ASR mount is not idiot proof. Be really careful not to try to remove it with the locking teeth engaged or they will strip and it won't lock right anymore. SilencerCo will replace your teeth for free if that happens but its annoying that it's even possible.

>>33638780
Troy GAU-5
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>>33638688
You have an aero lower and a PRO in a stock mount and you're calling me poor?

You're never going to own a SCAR since you can't even seem to find one on your own.
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>>33638826
The end of the rifle is less then 1/4th of an inch from the end of this 'device'. It is more like a barrel heat guard then a silencer.
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>>33638836
The stock mount works
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>>33638398
First time builder here.

I've got a DPMS stripped lower, and I was looking at these parts kits for a """"" precision """" build. ( would be happy with 1 MOA using white box or other bulk ammo)


> http://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-assemblies/side-charging-upper-assemblies/uasc223wrhb2019-fss-15-mlok


> http://www.stagarms.com/model-6-rifle-kit/


Was hoping for 18" w/ a rifle length gas system but that 6H seems to be decent...


any suggestions / reading would be nice.
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>>33638816
That still doesn't make it a SR-15. It's functionally a SR-15 but it still says SR-30 on the side, and you know how KACfags are with rollmarks.
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>>33638833
Hearing safe?
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Got a new can today to replace my old one.
Much more comfy.
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>>33638863
>white box
>1 moa
2/10 try again
>>33638866
Sr30 seems more rare and cooler than sr15 desu.
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>>33638863
Bear creek is shit. 1 Moa with white box is a tall order, especially with a $500 budget
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>saved up 2200 dollars and decide to finally put my funds to test and build my very own babbys first almost gucci ar
>Financial aid decides that i dont quality for poverty scholarship anymore because working at the library and editing papers for 4 years made me not a poorfag anymore despite being knee deep in debt
>internship is good and future looks good, but i still have to put most, if not all of it towards tuition and rent
>tfw i wont get an AR for another year
it hurts bros
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>>33638905
Just buy an AR that isnt 2200 fuckin dollers.
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>>33638905
>$2200
>another year

thats....
yeah
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>>33638905
It could be worse. If Hillary were President you'd never own ar
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>>33638900
>>33638898

White box was just the first name that jumped in my head, 2 moa with "meh" quality ammo would be fine. That being said I am complete ignorant of the Ar15.
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>>33638836
Dry your eyes and wipe your nose. Do you really think I give a shit about you?
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>>33638936
tuitions 47k each semester and rent and food is another 1400 per month. scholarship and loan covers about 40k. i wish i never went to this shitty school and stayed in state
>>33638935
might just buy a psa kit at this point
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>>33638905
>going to collage

>wasting four years of work experience

>wasting decades indebted

>being indoctrinated af and fed shit u literally can study yourself

>get a degree everyone has which is now worthless and no good employer uses a degree as an IQ-test/competency replacement anymore
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>>33638979
Just get this

https://www.righttobear.com/AR-15-Rifle-Kit-16-Ballistic-Advantage-Mid-Leng-p/ba16p-q12-no-lower.htm
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>>33639004
What major?
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>>33639004
>falling for the college meme
F
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>>33639007
> 16"
> mid length.

Thank you for the input Anon, I will consider this suggestion.
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>>33639007
>keymod
Stop
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>>33639000
You care enough to reply friendo. Keep talking tough, I'm sure you'll convince yourself at least.
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>>33639013
baby mba program, business major with a administrations minor. my internship turns into a paid one next year so i'll have some leeway with money
>>33639016
i should've just stayed as a welder desu
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>>33639037
Poorfags can't be choosers. Find a better buy.

Plus keymod is totally fine. Not as tacticool as m lok but completely usable.
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Need a cowitness mount for an H1. Are there any that aren't was and also aren't retardedly expensive? Quick throw lever is nice.
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>>33638905
Why not slowly build over time? Dumping $2k at once into an AR while you're in debt is the kind of dip shit financial decision that will keep you in perpetual poverty for the rest of your life.
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>>33639016
RIP
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>>33638398
>NFA goodness thread
This would be cool except the ATF isnt returning my stamps from last june

Id guess im a super felon like burt but I've gotten all sorts of clearances and approvals since last june.

reeeeee
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>>33639043
>BUSINESS MAJOR

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

BRUH U WENT INTO DEBT FOR BUSINESS DEGREE?

ATLEAST TOILET PAPER HAS IS GOOD FOR WIPING YOUR ASS


HAHAHAHAHAHA WOW I THOUGHT U WERE GONNA SAY ARTS OR POLISCI BUT WHAT RETARD GETS BUSINESS DEGREE INNTHEBCURRENT YEAR

Have a great time getting good jobs which didnt require that degree and where work experience would have gotten you in wuicker
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>>33639043
>gave up welding for a shitty fucking degree and 50k+ debt
Holy shit nigger pls tell me this is joke

>>33639052
>Find a better buy.
Mine:^

For the price point he'd be better off just getting a BA barrel and attaching it to an upper then using the money he saved to put towards another rail. He already has a lower
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>>33639034
You're putting too much emphasis on 18" and rifle length gas.

BA guarantees 1 MOA with their barrels using match ammo. You won't find a better deal.
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>>33639043
You fell for the 70s golden ticket?
MBA are dimeadozen

Well you got internships, should help
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>>33639052
>Poorfags can't be choosers
Poorfags are poorfags because this is what they believe. They buy garbage on a whim instead of applying a little discipline.
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>>33639069
>For the price point he'd be better off just getting a BA barrel and attaching it to an upper then using the money he saved to put towards another rail. He already has a lower

It's like you didn't even look at the link

Post a better deal
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>>33638889
No supersonic rifle is hearing safe, supersonic crack is always gonna be around ~145 decibels, which isn't hearing safe even if you were able to entirely suppress the explosion.
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>>33639110
Hmmm.
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>>33639077
Should be easy to apply discipline and find better buy

He's getting a complete rifle minus the lower which he already has, with a BA barrel, a free float handguard and everything else he needs for an operational rifle for $400
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>>33639040
I felt obliged to remind your section 8 trailer park illiterate ass where your place is at the table: under it :^)
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>>33639110
>145 desciples
>not hearing safe

You have some weak bitch ears my friend

You just need to repeatedly expose yourself to implosive noises to build natural resistance
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>>33639007
>https://www.righttobear.com/AR-15-Rifle-Kit-16-Ballistic-Advantage-Mid-Leng-p/ba16p-q12-no-lower.htm

Not that poorfag anon, but looking for a beater AR. This or PSA kits or uppers?
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>>33638398
Mlok is perfectly fine

Magpul did nothing wrong

FIGHT ME YOU SCUMBAGS
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>>33639054
>>33639054
>>33639054
/arg/ pls, lend me your autism
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>>33639086
400+ shipping for a disassembled upper and and a shit LPK, wow

Literally the only thing worth anything in that pile is the BA barrel, upper, and gas block. If he wants to poorfag his way through his build he can do that but it wouldn't be much more to buy the parts separate and then get a better rail
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>>33638504
Gunshows. Crossroads of the west is usually pretty good
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>>33639136
I like that particular kit because you get a BA barrel. PSA uses god knows what at that price point.

If I was on a tight budget, that's the best deal I've found yet. The drawbacks are

Keymod
Shitty stock

They also have kits with the lower receiver too for like $450

But you get 1moa guarantee barrel while using match ammo, and you get an Aero free floated handguard, mil spec BCG, and everything else needed for a good rifle. It'll last thousands of rounds. Put a good optic on it and you're set.

However there may be some Easter sales soon that will be nice too. If I'm buying PSA I'm buying their premium line with is $400 just for the upper w/o BCG or CH
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>>33639157
>>33639054
>Are there any that aren't was and also aren't
what did he mean by this?
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>>33639163
Poor fag anon here, budget is 850$ not including optics. Suggestions?
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>>33639163
Still waiting for you to post some kind of proof to all these hot claims.
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>>33639202
Ass man.
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>>33639211
He'll try to sell you his rifle probably
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>>33639211
>>33639235
Also if your budget is $850 you can definitely do better than the $400 kit I posted
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>>33639211
BA barrel with gas block and tube from them, toolcraft BCG+CH from WCArmory, upper from wherever you can get it cheapest, cheapest LPK you can find, buffer assembly from again wherever, B5 ehanced, A1 or Magpul MOE+ pistol grip. Aero sells Mlok handguards for about 100 bucks as well that you ould grab, they're decent

You can get all the shit parts that don't matter from Aero too, should keep you under 850 fairly well

>>33639218
Suck a dick faggot
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>>33639125
Sure. Wait until Geissele has a blem sale, there's your discipline. Or just keep saving and buy one new.
>b-b-but I need ar now, so how does this garbage look?
This thinking is how poor people get stuck being poor.
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>>33639259
If you wanna be a total fag and wait a year that's on you. I'll be out shooting.
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>>33639223
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>>33639257
>Suck a dick faggot
Yeah that's what I thought
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>>33639276
July 4th is the blem sale

you should still kys and save qb and msd the trouble of bullying you into buying the parts you should have bought a while ago.
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>>33639211
Are you wanting to build the thing yourself or pre assembled? Remember if you are wanting to build you'll probably want to buy about $25-$75 in tools depending on how far you wanna take it.
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>>33639257
Literally everything I listed minus barrel/gasblock/gas tube you can get for a total of 425 shipped, which leaves you a shitton of money left over for accessories. Just buy an upper, lpk, and buffer assembly from Aero along with the rail

BA barrel setup will bring you anywhere from 575 to 625 depending what you do, maybe more maybe less

>>33639295
Keep poorfagging
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>>33639307
This design. Buy once cry once
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>>33639276
Until something breaks or you decide you just don't like it, then spend more money replacing the initial purchase.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a BA barrel, they're great shooters at a fair price. I would not spend money on a waffle stock, an a2 grip, a 9130 bcg, or a pencil profile barrel (the make of the barrel is fine, the profile is not) and a 12" handguard leaves a lot of barrel exposed.
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>>33639307
>people that have never owned an AR have preferences and know what they like on ARs

This is why you cheap out at first. Because you have no fucking clue what you like. Then you do little upgrades as time goes along, discipline or some shit like that. Then you get an actual feel for the vast market and get more honed in your preferences and skills.
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>>33639327
Either or, I've put together other firearms before. The AR seems easiest in theory and I have most of the tools already.

I appreciate the honest feed back.
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>>33639307
>Guylee blem sale
>implying it won't be sold out in seconds
>implying the website would work properly due to traffic
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>>33639332
>this design

u wot
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>>33639365
>desu

Ducking auto carrot
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>>33639349
The upshot to buying tools for AR assembly is with the exceotion of an armorer's wrench and a receiver block, the tools are very common and you'll find other uses for them. It doesn't hurt to own a vice, a ball peen hammer, channel locks, hex wrench set, screwdrivers, etc.
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>>33639363
If I can get two, on two different occasions, maybe you should be so defeatist about it

>>33639347
that's why you just buy a colt 6920 for your first AR and figure out why it infuriates you and what you'd change. Then you sell it or trade it and get what you want.

Or if you're asking advice on 4chan about what to buy you could take the advice and just buy what people are telling you to, since you fucking asked.
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>>33639390
this just keeps getting better
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>>33639349
Ok cool. Well that definitely helps. If you've never built one I kind of want to say that you should do that with your first one. It's a fun experience. But the AR world can be a little intimidating at first because there's just so much cool stuff. As far as rails go I'd suggest m lok as it seems like the industry and military are both trending that way. There should be some sales going on this weekend so this is a good time to buy. Might wanna lurk around here because a lot of us post deals we find itt.

A lower is a lower is a lower generally speaking. If you're going to cheap out anywhere I say do so on the lower. Howeve if rollmarks are important to you then don't. But purely from a functional stand point the $40 anderson is going to work just fine.
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>>33639329
BA barrel with gastube/gas block is 220 if you get the midlength 16" m4, so 625 and it's a shitton better than the kit posted up top

Could get this lower depending where you buy some stuff, but this is what I did to spite >>33639295 this dumb faggot
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>>33639347
No, this is why you buy good value at first, like a S&W MP15-II or an Aero OEM
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http://www.armslist.com/posts/6675129/dayton-ohio-rifles-for-sale-trade--ar15--fs-or-trade-s-w-m60

total idiot when it comes to AR's
Is this trash?
pls spoonfeed
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>>33639391
Giessele reaction rods are good for upper assembly and Ace Ventura cosplay
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>>33639423
already got a DPMS stripped lower from a buddy of mine for 40$, tis what started this whole shin dig.
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>>33639440
might as well recycle it
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>>33639424
>this dumb faggot

Lol, you're missing some pretty expensive shit you retard AND you're already pushing $300

Kys m80
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>>33639436
>Ace Ventura cosplay
Please explain, I didn't think I could be more pleased with Geissele's thicc rod
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>>33639424
I would build this:
BA Hanson 16"- $180
Geissele mk8 13" 25% PA sale - $225, comes with gas block
Aero upper and lower (or anderson)
Small parts etc.

Or buy a 6920 oem 1 or 2 and add a Geissele rail and furniture
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>>33639453
>trying to help the jews build ARs

seriously, you're not gunstruction, let this cheap nigger figure his own weapon out
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>>33639453
>you're already pushing $300
wdhmbt

Did you even read the prices for the shit in the picture? MOE+grip and BCG/CH are what push it up to 625. And he could easily cut 50 dollars or more buying it from other places

Post AR

>>33639464
Just get an Aero OEM, no reason to spend the extra 250 for literally a colt rollmark
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>>33639478
>MOE+grip and BCG/CH
MOE+ grip, bcg/ch, and B5 enhanced stock
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>>33639478
>Just get an Aero OEM
>no reason to spend money for olt
>no reason
>aero
>oem

fug what's your malfunction dominican kitty?
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>>33639496
Literally the only reason to buy Colt is because you're cloning shit in which case I'll make fun of you. But Colt OEMs are civilian garbage with rollmarks not suitable for clones anyways so they're just shit
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>>33639478
>625

You're one stupid fucker. This whole thing has been me asking for you to find a better deal than the $400 kit I posted. Jesus Christ man. You might be the dumbest trip I've ever ran into and that's amazing.
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Just save up and get something nice like an LMT, KAC, etc.
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>>33639478
>no reason to spend the extra 250 for literally a colt rollmark
You've never indulged the sublime joy of Coltposting?
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>>33639506
Their literally milspec you fucking invalid as good as it gets other than boutique shit

People have colts with 30,000rds down them
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>>33639506
except for the mpi barrel and in house forged reciever? Or you could just trust Aero who has many out of spec'ed uppers released in the past couple of years. I do like BA though, FL company too.
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>>33639440
Ok cool. So you've already started.

Primary Arms had CMMG lower parts kits on sales earlier for like $35 I think. It's a good LPK that I've used a few times. That's a good price for an LPK. You might be able to find one cheaper but I'd imagine it's close to the best deal around.
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>>33639508
>better deal
>implying that only means monetary shit
And I'm the retard here

Buying a 1000 dollar item for 500 is a better deal than buying a 600 dollar item for 400

>>33639512
I get the joy of LMT posting :^

>>33639518
>Their literally
Stopped reading here

>>33639528
Colt doesn't forge their own receivers, they buy Cerros
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>>33639531
Second this, CMMG lpk is a good buy
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>>33639531
115.00 for https://www.righttobear.com/Rock-River-lower-parts-kit-with-2-stage-trigger-p/ar0120nm.htm

From building bolt guns im guessing splurg on trigger/ barrel / mated surfaces.
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>>33639536
>I get the joy of LMT posting :^
Me too!

LMT is 6.5 months into form 1 pending.
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>>33639536
I guess you're right about Cerro, Still you can olt post with it and that's almost priceless
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>>33639556
Digits confirm need to buy..
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Sell your spare parts in Japan
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>>33639581
He could but he's a poorfag, a Colt OEM puts him almost at his budget after shipping and transfer and he still needs stock/optic/rail

>>33639559
I really need to get some AR lowers to form 1. Kinda wanna get a 3rd to engrave as an Izmash made one for some Slav AR fun when I get some Prop of US Gov lowers engraved too
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>>33639559
hm

is that an LMT gun or did you buy the lower?

>jealousy is a sin
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>>33639614
>>33639607
>exporting gun parts outside the us
how you want your itar senpai
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>>33638528
how you like that bcg? worth the money for the neato colors?
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>>33639559
Indeed
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>>33639556
Trigger and barrel shouldn't be cheaped out on, or looked at as an element to save money on. Barrel, BCG, and trigger should be the core of your build. Trigger is fine to go mil-spec at first, its easily swapped.
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>>33639622
Not me. i just see weird shit on jap airsoft twitter
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>>33639630
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16HkMm_StmrOjm0wGLBIst2KhYvldJxg83uVGb9sNKKE/edit?usp=sharing

So far? Suggestions are more than welcome
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>>33639625
Nice LMT bro. Almost as nice as some Asian girls' feet
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>>33639609
I'd say go with an OEM or cheapshit magpul stock for now if he's settling on cheap parts. I'll sell him a holosun RD for relatively cheap/way cheaper than you'll get one new. Did I mention I have an ALG EMR v3 13" I'd like to get rid of?
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>>33639639
Is that your mom?
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>>33639639
Thinking an MRP cqb is coming.
Then waiting nine months before a stamp comes back.....
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>>33639607
Do military otakus really buy that shit at those prices? That's roughly $360 for shit from a $50 lpk. Also, it's being categorized as toy/model gun parts lol, as if airshit can use real gun FCG and firing pin.
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>>33639559
Also I guess I can RARE post too, I'm never gonna get over this lower cop

FNH OEM para lower. Gonna be a great day when it gets turned into a 50.63 and I have some Belgian hidinium for tactilol

>>33639641
It might be easier depending what he wants to do and the tools he has
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>>33639609
>lowers to form 1
My unsolicited advice, if this is even in the realm of interest for you and you're not moving across state lines any time soon is just get the paperwork started now. I put it off for the longest time, which really wasn't a smart decision. I could have my SBR today, hell 6-9 months ago had I been more decisive.

File and forget.
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is a G36c parts kit worth holding onto?
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>>33639663
>File and forget.
I need lowers to do that tho. And 600 dollars

I'm broke as fuck right now thanks to my FAL
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>>33639621
Just the lower. LMT uppers are neat, but the whole barrel swap thing just isn't something I'd have any use for. Upper will be a 10.3 dd barrel, centurion bcg, geissele 9.5 rail and sf3p md.
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>>33639659
Well if cheap anon is still looking, I'll sell you the ALG EMR v3 13", Holosun 515c with the lens caps missing, B5 Sopmod bravo and b5 grip for $250 shipped.
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>>33639663
This
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>>33639651
If that was my mother I would gladly break both of my arms.
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>>33639704
kek
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>>33639656
Otakus are a different breed. There are idol fags that spend their savings going to their favorite idol's live show and buying all the merch.

Probably a symptom of an atheistic society.
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>>33639638
bcg cheaper here
http://www.monmouthreloading.com/shop/toolcraft-bcg/

also check tomstactical and lanbosarmory, most of my parts were cheapest there
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>>33639725
Are they actually selling though? Sneaking in LPK parts aren't hard so I don't see why they should cost that much.
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>>33639742
I actually just bought one from them and they ship fast. I could have sworn it was cheaper but wasn't willing to check emails. fug i'm lazy.
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>>33639750
Criminals primarily

Lots of Phillipines surplus A1s got snucked in bout a decade ago and were made into makeshift gangsta carbines
was prolific along with your usual various 1911/glock/shotguns
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Second Form 1 just got approved today, dunno what to do with it.

I didn't plan this ahead of time.
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>>33639794
When did your check cash? I mailed a form 1 in October. I figure I might get it back this summer.
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>>33639807
First one I filed back mid June, got approved in early March.

Second one right about a week before cutoff date in July.

About 8-9 months roughly, but this was in WA state if that matters
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>>33639807
I called ATF on mine the other day. They're still reporting 8 month wait; I went pending Sept. 26.
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850 anon here, I think i've got everything?
>>33639742

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16HkMm_StmrOjm0wGLBIst2KhYvldJxg83uVGb9sNKKE/edit?usp=sharing
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>>33639835
why do you want an 18" barrel?
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>>33639835
Get the 70 dollar toolcraft instead of the 95, it's the same thing but gray
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>>33639849
From what shooting a few other folks AR's the rifle length gas system has a softer impulse, I have a shoulder injury that isn't very pleasant with carbine length ( noticed a difference when using the same stock, rifle's were comparable in weight)

But that being said I don't want the weapon to be too heavy even if I'm just lugging it from the truck to the bench, the extra MV isn't a bad thing either.

Can you make a case for another size?
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>>33639861
I posted up there, but yeah this, I bought the toolcraft from Monmouth a few weeks ago, and I like it better than my failzero, even though fz is easier to clean, and I like it way more than the BCM bcg I sold with an 11.5" upper, the nitriding is nice.
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>>33639889
Anon I'm like a twig at 140lbs and a mid length gas system isn't that bad.

Just get a nice buffer system and you can eliminate any and almost all recoil.
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>>33639889
Well if you have a chronic shoulder problem, 18" rifle length I guess would be better, but it's not going to be much more comfortable. I would go 16" middy, you'll have a world of barrels to choose from, and if you buy a nicer buffer like the spikes t2, I doubt you could tell much difference from the longer barrel.
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>>33639899
listen to this elf skelton

16" middy is not going to kill you
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>>33639889
Muzzle device is more important imo. Get a brake, rifle gas, adjustable gb, bcm a5, and recoil buttpad for magpul stock, your rifle will feel like it's shooting air.
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>>33639932
this guy is not exactly onboard for spending for any of that.
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>>33639889
>shoulder injury
Have a look at VLTOR A5 buffer system
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>>33639960
VLTOR vs Spikes T2? Both are about the same cost.

> No go do research your self
> Fine.
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>>33639948
$30 jcomp or miculek comp and you've reduced recoil by 60-70%. What more you want senpai? The other stuff is icing on the cake.
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>>33639981
The bcm kit is $100 comes with everything but only available in h0 which is the same weight as carbine h1.
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R8
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>>33640014
why/10
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Guy who took his trans gf to the range we had a great time and she loved shooting my AR and AK.
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>>33639981
VLTOR kit, it has a slightly longer buffer system than standard carbine and supposedly reduces the recoil impulse. Spikes buffer is just that, a buffer.

Alternatively, you could just go straight to a rifle buffer system and possibly save some shekels, depending on your choice of stock.
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>>33640022
>She
sounds like a good time though I guess
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>>33640022
Post his boipucci
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>>33640028
I'm not too picky on stock, but I do Fancy the A2 stock, other suggestions are always welcome, You all have been very helpful.
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>>33640036
Its a she that has a dick
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>>33640033
>numale making fun of trans
I bet her feminine penis is bigger than yours tho :^
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>>33640014
>not combining your front sight and light
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>>33640043
ew
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>>33640043
Her dick is only 3 inches so probably is bigger than his.
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>>33640014
ok

but just ok
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>>33640014
8/10

I'd get a sopmod stock and change to flip up sights
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>>33640049
We're good people
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>>33640047
Don't hate, at least he's gettin some pussi (male)

>>33640049
>small feminine penis
rip
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>>33640020
>>33640044
>>33640053
>>33640052
>no one triggered by alg
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>>33640061
I'm more okay with it because it has the full upper rail
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>>33640014
>v3
Hey you got sent the wrong rail m8
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>>33640061
>it's not liz

I'm trying to sell an ALG so I can get a meme going I might be able to quick sell
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Wonder if I could get an expensive brand roller mark and shit parts other wise to jew pawn shops.....

cloned rifle would have to cost at least 2.2 the value of the build to make profit due to pawn shop jews.
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>>33640068
no you did, you should buy my v3 DDC and get with the fucking program
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>>33640070
Which one?

>>33640073
>v3
WRONG
R
O
N
G
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>>33640072
>selling lowers for profit
>breaking copyright to make profit
Have fun in jail

>>33640061
Full top rail is ok but I didn't approve either
I think I'm gonna get a VEPR-15 marked lower engraved and put a bunch of slavshit accessories when I get around to that 6.5g for extra meme purposes
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>>33640040
The 21st century is so confusing
>>33640037
A2 stock will be best value, and is replaceable with some Magpul options iirc down the line
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>>33640058
She will not have any penis soon since she is getting surgery.
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>>33640077
>which one

you just gave me a double (You) so that should answer your question

>wrong
>v2
>no light mounted
>no optic
>looks like a canyon interrupts top rail

why don't you unscrew your head or I will take a giant shit on you
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>>33640086
I wouldn't

Way too many people regret it afterwards. Also traps don't look good after their 20s
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>>33640082
Pawn shops search more for the roller mark than anything else on the rifle.
> buy a lower
> build a gun
> don't bother to correct the clerk who says it's a colt?
????
> profit

I'm not seeing jail time, am I missing something here?
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>>33640093
I have no say in it, its her body and money.
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>>33640091
>light
It's a table rifle
>v2
All the rail you need, none you don't. Also Lord Geisseles favorite V
>no optic
Soon though
>canyon
You hate canyons boy?
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>>33640099
>>selling lowers for profit
>>breaking copyright law and making a profit
You retarded or somethin?

>>33640101
Oh well, one more mentally ill person fucking up their life I guess
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>>33640103
canyons are for shooting in, not for rifle aesthetics

Geissele is practically a fudd

all you stand to gain is making your canyon more noticable by adding accessories to the parts with rails, or by adding m-lok rail sections.
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>>33640118
>Geissele is practically a fudd
dlet ths rn
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>>33640091
Are you anon who wanted to trade rails or something and a holosun

>>33640118
>a fudd

STOP
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>>33640123
You know it's true. I wish it wasn't, I fuckin love this dude's AR parts but he's a national match m16 shooter. I'd love to hear his real thoughts on block III.
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>>33640114
>pawn shop over pays for garbage because it's dressed up.

I guess so? IIRC it'd be the same if I sold a
"custom colt build" on arms list.
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>>33640118
I think the biggest issue with the v2 aesthetically is that it has nothing to attract the eye away from it just being a tube.

I have an old SLR on my 22lr and despite the rest of the rifle being partsbin as fuck the rail itself doesn't look bad.
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>>33640133
I don't want to trade rails, I want to sell a rail, and holosun.
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>>33640136
You seem to be missing the part where it's illegal to sell firearms for profit without an FFL and how you're breaking copyright law and you'll get arrested for fraud when the dude realizes it's engraved and not rollmarked

>inb4 merely pretending
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>>33640135
>I'd love to hear his real thoughts on block III.
I think he'd be foolish not to go for it. Look at the demand for anything DD as a result of the RIS II.
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>>33640152
yeah, that's why I said "real thoughts"

I know he's going to go all out salesman for it and god bless him, his rails are fucking awesome and jsoc uses a bunch of his triggers and rails anyway. I just think he would look at us and think we're fucking mall ninjas. He'd be right thought to a certain extent.
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>>33640147
>You seem to be missing the part where it's illegal to sell firearms for profit
Only if the feds can prove that was your intent. My dad bought a Python like new in the 80s for $100, he died and willed it to me. If I sold it now for a couple grand (I never would) that wouldn't be illegal. It's just the fair market valuation.
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>>33640142
Ah. Check out the BST thread
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>>33640165
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah he'd be right.
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>>33640167
>your name shows up on a shitton of ffl paperwork as a seller all of the sudden
>atf doesn't care
Pick one
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>>33640147
I guess I am, though I was more talking just swap the roller marked lower onto a crummy build as shops only search value via what is stamped on the rifle. The intent part would be the catch if I were ( this is hypothetical atf leave me alone) to buy and sell a few to many AR's to pawn shops.
>>33640183

> Selling a personal wep to a pawn shop requires an ffl

You've never sold a firearm to a pawn shop have you?
>I said I wasn't pretending.
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>>33640169
I only come to /k/ to get insulted by turbofaggots like you, why would I go to a different thread?
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>>33640183
I'd be more concerned with the reaming his boipucci would receive for modifying or falsifying manufacturer engravings
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>>33640193
There was an EO last year that tightened down on that hard as shit, you WILL get caught doing that
>selling firearms to a pawnshop requires and ffl
Pawn shops who deal in firearms are FFL and ask me how I know your name will show up on FFL paperwork if you do any firearm related business with them

>>33640198
Already mentioned it, rollmarks and engravings are different and when someone notices the fraud he'll get fucked for life by the ATF and in civil court
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>>33640175
I finally got one of my retarded opinions out in a reasonable manner at 2:30am and someone understood what I meant. Banner fucking day Friday is going to be.
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>>33640195
To maybe sell your stuff..?
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>>33640212
I've had much better luck on reddit and armslist

4chan is just a place to get called faggot and nigger and cry a little and buy better gun stuff because qb is a fucking dick.
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>>33640229
I've sold a good amount of stuff through 4chan m8

Gib holosun
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>>33640229
Well uh good luck then
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>>33640233
4 u
$100 shipped
it's just missing the lens caps because one broke off because chinese design, so I removed the other and my dog ate it.
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>>33640241
Nu I don't have any money

I will give you some noodles
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>>33640240
just buy the v3 wtf you know you want it
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>>33640249
:\

it'll be sittin here for a while I'm sure.

keep asking them stores about civil society fresh and I'll deliver it to you.
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>>33640255
I like my v2 and my next rail is gonna be a Guys lee
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>>33640205
Shop gets a bill of sale, and a police copy if they have an agreement with the PD, First cash and it's affiliates. I have not seen FFL paper work been filled out and filed when
An individual sells/pawns their firearm with the Dealer. Now I'm sure it's linked later in the system. And isn't there a threshold for that rule? I.e it becomes a substantial part of your income?
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>>33640265
You're in the same boat I was in then
I really still love the mounting method for the ALG with the spacers and wrench, but I got a gazellee rail on a trade and now I want a block III and olt parts are annoyingly expensive.
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>>33640273
You'd have to read it but it's pretty damn low

And I have an FFL book, everyone that you do business with gets logged, the type of firearm gets logged, and the serial # gets logged, it's one of the things you have to do to keep the ATF from ass raping you. And that doesn't include a 4473, that's just doing any business at all. If I buy a lower and get it shipped to my house who I bought it from, what it was, and the serial all go in the book, and those records last forever
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>>33640293
I feel ya. I love the barrel nut system really. Super easy to install
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>>33640314
I just think it's cool as shit that they have the torque values already assigned to the spacers.
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>>33640323
Yep. Not relying on a torque wrench is really awesome.
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>>33640340
You can definitely see Geissele's imprint on the design, the barrel nut is twice the size of the mk's and that wrench and nub and knowing exactly how long and diameter the pipe needs to be... he's all over it.
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>>33640301
Right, I'm not saying it'd be "ooo spoopy ghost gun", Accusation and dispo account for that. Yes the shop does report who and what came in. I'm suggesting (hypotheically) that if one wanted to, they could buy a Colt lower and put it on a PSA to slide one over on the shop , not the atf, but unless you did it in obscene quantities I don't think the atf would jump at you. The 4473 would only apply to taking in the lower as a person , then later another 4473 if the shop resold the weapon.


Better example. If I get a US made Gibson neck, but I've got a Mexican one or something and swap out the neck, odds are the shop is going to snatch the guitar up unless they closely inspect it. It'd be dirty don't get me wrong, but that sorta shit does happen.
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>>33640359
Oh absolutely. ALG defense is literally Geissele 2.0
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I want a basic ass ar15 like pic related and im too lazy to build one, what's a reliable pre-built rifle that comes with a removable carry handle?
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>>33640362
Now you're not defacing lowers or fabricating new ones though. And you will still be in the books I don't know what part of that was difficult to understand. The pawn shop only accepts guns as an FFL, and if you hand a firearm to an FFL to transfer ownership, even without an FFL, it goes in the book
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>>33640376
Never suggested defacing or fabbing ,but I might not have been clear on that.
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>>33638398
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>>33640374
http://www.lmtstore.com/complete-weapon-systems-firearms-guns/complete-gas-weapons/cmp556.html

Or you can order one of these and get their carry handle for like 150 bucks.

http://www.lmtstore.com/complete-weapon-systems-firearms-guns/complete-gas-weapons/defender-standard-model-16-with-sopmod-stock.html
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>>33640403
you should change that meh ris for a lite rail and be super gucci
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>>33638528
Ugly as fuck
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do mid length gas systems do alright with a supressor
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>>33640475
Wrong
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>>33640510
But it feels so right
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>>33640475
>nsr
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>>33640522
But it looks like ass
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>>33640522
drop that thing on barfcom ee and get a dd mfr xs

your gun would go from 4/10 to 8/10 depending on barrel and bcg
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>>33640525
It's rock solid and very high quality, best keymod rail out there, even has an extra pin above the gas tube for anti rotation
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>>33640475
sorry about your brain cancer

more sorry about your rail and muzzle device cancer
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>>33640538
every rail in existence at this point has at least an attempt at antirotation (looking at you MI) that's not something to boast about, it's literally a baseline expectation that you shouldn't be able to twist the handguard off or fuck up the gas

>best keymod
so it's the best literal shit?
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>>33640535
BCG is Wilson Combat NP3, barrel is a Rainer Arms Ultramatch.

And that DD rail with the lip at the 6 o clock position looks like trash .
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>>33640549
dlet ths rn
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>>33640545
every rail is good on twist if you rockset the barrel nut to the rail

t. MI QC
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>>33640545
You fags were all about keymod 6 months ago. Everything's just a fad with you people.
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>>33640571
>You fags were all about keymod
No the fuck we were not. It's literally just A2 and WhatIPWhatOwnership that still shill keymod. Dan used to until his fucking rail broke
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>>33640365
>mfw mk13/14 took inspiration from ALG's designs
By the way, you don't need a torque wrench to install a barrel nut ever, according to Guylee himself. Just tighten and index. Torque is too complicated to simply down to a setting on a wrench.
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>>33640549
See that hole above the gas port? It was literally designed to be coupled with the NSR, there's a pin you stock in there that fits into the rail. It's an extra measure
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>>33640583
Dude yes they fucking were, Jesus it's blue ray and hddvd all over again
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>>33640592
>needing a special receiver to have anti-rotation
>Noveske Engineering
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>>33640604
>need
>extra measure
You're a dense motherfuxker
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>>33640600
>Dude yes they fucking were
>only like 4 tripfags ever had keymod and 1 has switched while another desperately wants to switch
No, they weren't
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>>33640589
More like a mil-spec upper receiver can handle up to 80 ft/lb of torque with 35ft/lb being a recommended minimum, so with that much variance it's kinda pointless to worry about a precise value as long as you're at or over 35, which any adult human can do with just a wrench or breaker bar
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>>33640612
4 trips and countless anons
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>>33640627
>countless anons
These people don't matter and those anons were bullied for shit opinions. No one important has liked keymod
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>>33640611
So where's the anti-rotational feature with a milspec upper and nsr? I don't see any tabs or screws.
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>>33640612
Most trips had keymod within the last year, maybe year and a half.
>>
how butthurt will the fucking inept retards I work with be if I called in tomrrow.

It's t-8 hours now so let me know if I should string them out to dry.
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>>33640631
You just drill into your receiver duh how hard is this

Seriously though, that anti-rotation method is about the worst I've seen. The sheer forces on such a small contact point will be pretty incredible, enough to either snap the pin or deform the receiver, the rail, or both/all three.
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>>33640625
Yes. That's why you don't need a torque. But torque values are always an estimate anyway. Too many factors to determine. Plus most people don't ever calibrate their wrenches after years and years so it's more of a placebo using one. Guyslee said himself that the military for years have not used oraue wrenches. Only tightened and indexed.
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>>33640634
How warped is your mind?
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>>33640668
Who /mlokearlyadoptor/ here?
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>>33640668
do you realize where we are faggot?
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>>33640672
I'm all about the pic rails my nigga
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>>33640612
>mfw I figure it's 2007 again
EXCEPT THAT THE BCM MASTER RACER VFG ISN'T IN M-LOK, ANON BTFO
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>>33640705
>bcm best
>not zenit rk-4
smhtbhfam

Not only is it more aesthetic it has internal storage. And it's pic rail masterrace
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>people changed what type of rail they used when new data released that showed it was not good
>keymod is shit

Really percolates my pecans


In other news, fuck vacuum bag leaks.
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Back. catch some sleep and did some work.

didnt look like i missed much at all.
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>>33640653
>Seriously though, that anti-rotation method is about the worst I've seen. The sheer forces on such a small contact point will be pretty incredible, enough to either snap the pin or deform the receiver, the rail, or both/all three.

the SOLID SS pin will NOT snap. it will deform the rail and maybe upper pin hole.

but that amount of force wont be seen from hit or drop only it being in vise and handguard being torqued twisted with fucking monkey wench.
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new thread

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>>33640853
>>33640853

>>33640853
>>33640853
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>>33640853
>>33640853
>>33640853
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>>33640630
>Tripfags
>Important

I'm LMAOing @ your life right now
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No one go to geroge thread
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>>33640861
>anonposting
LMAOing @ ur life rn desu

Really tho I have no fuckin clue what you're talkin about with keymod cause it has always been bullied
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>>33640868
4 u

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>>33640881
>>33640881
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>>33640719
Your position doesn't count because obviously, you never had anything but picrail or no rail, which equals that you're just a faggot who thinks that he is relevant when even the next M110 will have M-LOK.
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>>33638416
How the fuck are they gonna afford 300 dollars for a silencer. On top of that, how are they gonna afford a gun with a threaded barrel?
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What opric should I pick up for my AR? I like red dots but the practical side of my brain tells me I should get something with a bit of magnification.
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