/meg/

>>33411568
What happened to Navydepper and the other helpful trip fags?

>>33411597
Probably busy at his boot/MOS school/first unit

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Reminder that women are not real Marines.

>>33411657
Epic

>>33411679
It's true though.

I took my PICAT verification yesterday at the MEPS facility and scored pretty well. Joining the air force and with my scores I can pretty much have any career that is available.
I was hoping to pick something that could translate to future employment after completion of my service. I am looking at Maintenance and Electrical. Leaning more for electricity.
Any suggestions? I was looking at working on Biomedical Equipment as my first choice.

>>33411683
According to whom?

>>33411691
God.

>>33411701
I don't think so.

>>33411103
Hoping someone might have some answers.

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>>33411709
All memes aside, every enlisted woman I've met in the Corps has been a complete scumbag. They try to skate by on having a vagina and often times they succeed.

Knew one CO who was a chick though and she was cool as shit.

>>33411727
>They try to skate by on having a vagina and often times they succeed.

It's not my fault men fall for the vagina.

besides

>8%

>>33411657
They are. My dad's generation called them WM's (women marines). I was Infantry, never really dealed with them.

They aren't equals but they earned their EGA as much as female soldiers or any female military.

Who are you to talk anyways.

Can anybody tell me something about 68W and 14NX?

>>33411821
20 bucks says you're a mexican manlet and you're below 5'10"

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What factors did YOU consider when it came to choosing your branch?

>>33412309
Whiter than your mom's bleached asshole and 6 feet tall. Good guess though.

>>33412351
6'0" "tall"

hhahahahhahahah this is what mexicunts actually believe. Sad.

>>33412309
Im 5'7'' and I'd still fuck you up

>>33413325
No you wouldn't.

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>>33413325

>>33413325
>>33413372
>>33413531
I'm 5'9" and I'd fuck you all up

>>33412309
>>33412351
>>33412362
>>33413325
>>33413801
>>33413372

If you retards are gonna argue about height you can fuck off to where you came from.

>>>/fit/

>8' tall gangly master race! Everyone below 6'10" is manlet scum!

>>33413885
Spoken like a true manlet

>>33413896

6' is plenty. Im not tall, but I'm not short. I don't mind riding that Norwegian average line.
But it sounds like y'all have some body image issues, and we have a board specifically made for you people:

>>>/fit/

>>33413932
>He is average

What a joke

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Height memes aside, if you had a perfect score on the ASVAB and had the intelligence to do any job, what MOS would you have picked?

>>33413979

11b

>>33413991
This. Or 19D if the signing bonus is better.

>>33413979
35 Series or Cyber

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What do company grade PoG officers actually do?
I get infantry officers organize drills and lead the grunts but what are 42Bs,36A, exc up to all day?

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What are Combat Correspondence and Broadcast Journalism like as an MOS?

USMC btw

I'm seriously considering taking up an my offer my recruiter gave me, 11x option 4. Would I be retarded to take this? Heard peacetime infantry is a mistake to sign up for, it's just so tempting however.

>>33414194

U ever see full metal jacket? Remember Joker?

It's nothing like that. You'll be a hyper pog

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Which branch has the most anti-gunners?

Which job within that branch is most anti-gun?

Want to avoid being surrounded by whiny cunts.

>>33414194
Didn't two of those AFN fags end up killing each other?

Its fucking corporate environment tier. Enjoy hating your life.

>>33414715
Just go into combat arms in any branch and you won't have to deal with anyone who hates guns.

Anyone know what army CBRN specialists do everyday?

>>33414758
Inventory all day every day from what i've heard.

>>33414770
>>33414758
You occasionally get to tear gas people when they do gas mask checks though.

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>>33414715
Air Force

Anything from DLI

>>33411821
You mean WAM. Wide Ass Marine

>>33411568
I feel like joining the military is kind of pointless if you aren't going to be doing something entirely combat oriented like Infantry, Tanker, etc

But I see over and over again on this site and from dudes I know in the army that combat MOS' are ass and should be avoided if you want to enjoy life

WHICH IS IT

>>33414902

Most of the military is support and logistics. We need pogs. If guys want to join and be pogs, let them. More infantry slots for us

>>33414919
Are you Infantry?

I am an MMN

Babby nukes give me your questions.

>>33413979
got 96 on asvab, going 03xx

>>33414902
If doing admin work in the military is pointless how is doing admin work outside the military less pointless?

>>33414998
The moral of the story is that admin fags should all kill themselves.

Meeting adjourned.

>>33414998
>If doing admin work in the military is pointless how is doing admin work outside the military less pointless?
Fair point, I just think that if you're going to sell your rights and liberties away for at least 3 years, it should be something unique that can only be done inside the military.

Like if you want to be an admin worker why not just do it where you're still a civilian

>>33414902
Joining the military for combat is something only civilians and infantry believe.

Take the Navy for example, aside from specwar guys and the odd green-side corpsman, there's no combat to speak of. Most of the military is basically trade school with uniforms. There's a lot of bullshit and the occasional cool thing that may or may not make it all worth it.

>>33415030
>For some of the less technical jobs, the pay+benefits are better in the military.
>Some people prefer the strict/structured military lifestyle.
>Some people value pride/patriotism.
>The military is always hiring even when nobody else in your area is.

Came here to ask people who serve(d) what their motivation was for joining the military.
I currently am in college and want to be a police officer, but may not be able to do that for a couple years (if at all) because of past drug use as a teen a year ago. I'm weighing my options and would like some input of any kind.

I'm hesitant to join the military since I don't want to leave my family for a long while, and you don't seem to make much at all in the military.
I do like the benefit of having my education paid for though.

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I give you the most enlisted picture in the world.

Why would anyone want to be a SNCO in a conventional role?

>>33416134
Why does some air farce folks have so many medals? They give them out for not losing training records immediately? Bunch of goddamn war heroes.

>>33411690
Do avionics faggot

>>33416148
I gots a medal

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>>33416134
>that pained expression in the left aircuck's eyes

He know his life was and is fucked.

>>33415258
>past drug use as a teen a year ago
>posting about joining the military
lol
if that's official and not just something you did in your mom's house once and never told anybody, don't bother

>>33416134
Why are they dressed like waiters?

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>>33411568
What is life like in the Coast Guard as an Officer? How does it compare with other branches, say, as an Army Officer for example?

Gonna drop an OCS packet for one of the branches and so far Coast Guard and Army interest me most

>>33416461
Coast Guard recently had their MSRT deactivated

>>33416344
>when you want to go to the ball but you still got kp duty

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>>33416134
>air force
>enlisted

>>33416475
Thats ok. Thats not what I am interested in doing with the Coast Guard anyway

I'm pretty sure nobody here can confidently answer this so here goes a shot in the dark :

Online I read you can't go Recon (USMC) if you need a moral and or drug waiver, I'm wondering if that only means you can't enlist with the 0321 MOS or if it means you can't go to Recon period. As in, join with whatever other MOS and ask to go to Recon later.

>>33414153
>What do company grade PoG officers actually do?

Combat Support and Combat Service Support units still require admin work and leadership you dumb cunt. Did you even think this question through?

>>33414989
>nuke
>babby
how rigorous is the nuke program? are there many waashouts? what is a good test of knowledge before even considering going in for that?

>>33416930
You need to specify here. I went down to meps this Monday and they currently don't accept any drug use. Doesn't matter how long ago it was, if you smoked weed ever you're disqualified period. If you have anything on your record that will not work in your favor either.

So you should be more worries about qualifying at all than going recon.

>>33417092
That's a little weird because my Marine recruiter told me the waiver I need has a 100% acceptance rate at this point.
I don't see why he would send me to MEPS this upcoming Monday if I wasn't going to be able to join.

Also the Army recruiter told me I could get a waiver for my initial charge and the only reason they can't get my waiver is be cause on top of the charge I have a violation of probation (related to first charge)

>Need a fucking O-6 to sign a weekend pass, he can't delegate this responsibility lower
>No alcohol whatsoever anywhere under any circumstances
>Need a "battle buddy" to talk to cadre or go fucking anywhere during or after the duty day.

Don't fall for the 35P/M meme.
If you want a linguist job pick literally any other branch.

anyone here know what marine avionics is like?

>>33417381
No one wants a linguist job. A language is a good skill to have IN ADDITION to something, it should never be your entire life.

>>33417328
Strange. At Houston MEPS they reject anyone who has done weed, they no longer give reprieve for previous use. Maybe things are different at your MEPS. So you'd be pretty much fucked here. But maybe your office is more lax.

>>33417496
>what is reclassing
>what is OCS
>what is ETS

>>33417540
>having to reclass
>having to OCS
Yeah, great job fucking up right out of the gate instead of doing what you want from the get go. Instead we should end up an under-qualified tard who is new to a job while everyone who has the same job as you has years worth of experience over you already.

DLI really does produce retards.

If you want a certain job, get that certain job.
If you want to be an officer, just be a fucking officer instead of fucking around.

>>33417578
What exactly do you have against learning a language and making an extra $1000 every month?
What if you want a TS clearance? You can't do OCS off the street and expect to branch MI.
And what's wrong with the job in its own right?
You'll be doing regular SIGINT/HUMINT stuff as well, it's not all translation.

How hard is it to become TACP?

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Should I enlist after high school so I can do the job I want or do I do ROTC and then commission.

>>33418214
Or do I do college and then enlist

>>33411690
Make sure you get that job locked down. Don't let them make you SF bruh

>>33417006
It's tricky, nothing is terribly complex, but it's all very very fast.

The whole pipeline is a test of your ability to quickly review material and retain important information. As well as draw logical conclusions from a set of conditions and actions.

There are a lot of washouts, in all stages, most of them in A school or power school but guys still get disenrolled as late as prototype.

Knowing algebra helps with the math in the beginning (never gets more complex than basic calc) and having a basic understanding of things like electricity and physics makes it overall easier. If you've been to college, it won't be over your head, but they teach a lot of things differently than colleges do and that makes it hard for some people.

>>33413979

68 series master race

*except for 68J and 68G and 68M

>>33414211

>peacetime
>Rangers on the ground in Syria
>101st deploying to Iraq
>Afghanistan inexplicably still existing

peacetime?

>>33418214
What job? Regardless, I'd advise you do ROTC especially if you can get the scholarship.

>>33418222
You shouldn't plan on doing this considering you're at a point in life where there are many better options, but in some cases it might make sense.

>>33416930

If you have a drug problem, don't enlist.

If you have a MJ possession, some services would be ok with it.

If you have hard drugs in your record, at least you can still shoot up.

>>33411568
Was thinking about enlisting in the army as a 35F or a 12y, nice bouns for both MOS'. what is the likely hood of me staying in the southwest of the united states. I dont have an objection of going to war but I would like to stay in the pacific northwest or four corners region

>>33417530
Army is a battalion waiver for POSSESSION of MJ. Anything more than that will DQ you.

>>33418246
Whats wrong with SF

>>33418314
SF = gate guard for the rest of your enlistment, keeping nukes warm in NorthDakotastan

>>33418293
>>33418293
I wanna go Infantry, Combat Engineer, or FISTer when I enlist and maybe go Ranger

>>33418348
I kind of want to advise you to do infantry, try for an option 40, ETS asap and then go to college, do ROTC + SMP and then commission.
You'll have a better shot at branching infantry that way, and you'll probably be more mature which will help you get through college with beter grades, you'll live better in college because you'll get dat sweet BAH along with ROTC allowances and drill pay.

>>33418344

But what if you want to get paid to not do shit but sit around bullshitting with m4s and fucking farm girls on your time off?

>>33418483
you do you senpai

>>33418348
I've seen all three in the temp reservation screen at the recruiting office. You have a good chance at snagging them.

Source: Am Army recruitar

I got Permanently DQ'd for my astigmatism but this was during the worst of the cuts and I had a greencard, now recruiting is picking up again and I'm a citizen should I try for a waiver?

>>33418901
No, we didn't take degenerate immigrants then and we still don't.

>>33418901
>should I try
Why the fuck not?
What can it hurt?
Just don't get your hopes up.
But talk to recruiters from all branches and see.

>>33418901
I just got in with an astig waiver. go for it

>>33419026
It hurt a lot the first time around, but being a little bitch never got me anything anyway so you're right. I'll try again.
>>33419069
How many dipolars?

>>33418314
There's nothing wrong with security forces.
You get an awesome beret, more firearms training, and some LE experience.

Defendor Fortis

>>33417664

>Implying most linguists don't get like $300/mo

1k is going to require you to be consistently good at two high demand languages simultaneously.

>>33418314
>"SF"
Air fags call their gate guards "SF"? Hilarious.

>>33418271
It's functionally peacetime. Back in the mid-2000s you could basically be assured to be getting a deployment, a real combat deployment almost right out the gate if you wanted it.

These days you have an incredibly tiny percentage of conventional units going overseas. And where they are overseas its places like Baghdad, Kandahar, Bagrahm where you aren't doing combat. You're training locals, provided static presense, and sitting there. You might get an incoming mortar or a driveby shooting once a month at the gate,if you really want to tell your grandkids about it.

>But my SEALs, SF, Delta, MARSOC guys in combat
These guys are an even smaller sliver of the military and are not an indicator of how conventional military stuff is going. They are VASTLY overrepresented on the internet and are not anywhere close to normal experiences.
>Well, I'll just go SOF then!
Best of luck to you then. Don't wash out and become like every sob story SF washout in the 82nd.

do you continue to receive BAH after getting completely out of the military

>>33420668

Does the military continue to cut you a huge check for housing every month for the rest of your life? No.

However, if you're using the Post-9/11 GI Bill you can receive an allowance for housing while you're in school for up to 36 months. So in that sense, yes, you can keep getting "BAH" for a few years after you get out.

>>33411103

it depends on what her master's is in, though working on base isn't always a good idea. my girlfriend/eventual fiancee has a PhD. her degree is flexible enough that she can get work at any governmental health department. and don't live on base if you can avoid it - you pocket more money and have better quality of life.

officially the only part that matters is "married" in "gay married couple". we hated the one gay guy in our squadron, but that's because he was a whiny shitbag who was a shitty flyer, not because he was a faggot. you could be made fun of for everything you do, depending on what you do. i had a good friend in flight school who was gay, and we mainly made fun of his weird habits, acting like a political candidate all the time, and #blessed lifestyle.

>>33411657
>when hanging for 15 seconds counts as pullups

>>33420668
What the other anon said. You can only get "BAH" if you use the GI Bill.

The GI Bill is by the way pretty great. Even if you DGAF about a degree, just pick something easy and go full time for while as you figure life out and get paid for it.

Youngins going into the military:

As soon as you are out of boot/AIT, go open a USAA or NavyFed account, open a Roth IRA and investment account, and stick money in monthly. Its super easy to max out a yearly IRA in the military, and you can put the leftover cash in an index fund or a high dividend fund like a REIT or PG. IRA is for when you're an old person, investment fund is long term but you can pull funds out sooner if needed. Make it a monthly habit to stick $500+ in there and you will have a nice post-military money cushion.

I'm out now with a nice money pile and my only regrets with thus were not starting sooner.

>>33420858
Forgot: And set all the investmet shit to automatic dividend reinvestment.

Your future self will thank you.

>>33418925
Yeah you do. I'm joining with a permanent resident card. No problem.

>>33418214
Go to community college for a couple semesters before deciding to join the military. Imo joining the military right after you finish HS is incredibly retarded.

>>33420858
>>33420912
Are you the same anon that made a couple very long, detailed posts on how not to financially fuck up in the military a couple years ago?

do you guys want to share any stories of weapons grade autism you witenssed during your service?

>first month of training
>first armament class
>lieutenant teaches us about characteristics of the galil assault rifle
>hands an empty rifle to one of the recruits so we can pass it around
>explicitly tells us not to manipulate any of the controls or mechanisms
>one faggot immediately racks the bolt handle
we all suffered for that boy's impatience

also
>first krav maga lesson
>captain demonstrating various techniques
>pulls in a recruit for a disarming technique
>takes his sidearm out of his holster, muzzle sweeps the entire company and hands it to the recruit, who immeditely points it at the captain
>mfw weapons grade safety negligence

I start basic in just over a week.

Why does everyone I meet tell me horror stories? Is any of the shit true about how you need some kind of inhuman like will to get through?

Just swore in as a 13F at MEPs. How fucked am?

>>33421203
Maybe, I've seen other posts talk about it too.

My TLDR is that you should be trying to create a passive revenue stream/money growth instead of either spending all your cash (terrible) or just sitting it in a savings account (not as bad, but not good either). Other anons might come along and finagle the details, but the important thing is to do something as opposed to doing nothing.

IMO, try to max out a Roth IRA every year with $5500 contributions. After that, shovel any left over money into an investment account. You want long haul investments that don't need micomanagement since, as military, you just won't have the time. Do either a normal index fund, a mutual fund, or a stable high dividend fund (or combo of these). Automatic reinvestment is how you make the money pile up over time without looking at it. If you're nervous about investment at the very least get a bond fund.

Symbols worth looking at: USCGX, VBMFX, VTI, PG, FUSVX.

USAA's website is really well laid out and easy to use IMO. I've heard good things about Navy Fed but never used them.

It's seriously super easy to do this and doesn't require a ton of management once you get it rolling.

>>33421271
>basic
>inhuman will

Nah, it sucks but the pass rate is something like 85% first try, with the majority of failures being medical injury recycles who pass on the second attempt.

The reason fresh boots talk it up is because they are very proud of themselves and they have literally no other military experience to compare it to.

How difficult is sec+ really?

>>33413801
I'm 2'1" and I could literally kill everyone here blindfolded with my 73 yard cock

Is it just a meme, or are Airmen really disrespected in the military community?

>>33421316
I'll definitely save this post for when I join in a few months. I remember seeing similar posts on MEG when I was under aged and couldn't join so I didn't bother saving them.

>>33421373
Its all just memes as far as i know

>>33421360

It's not.

>>33421373
>disrespected
How? Explain your victim complex?

>>33421658
I'm not an Airman. Aren't they typically seen as the meek and wimpy younger brother of the military family?

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>>33421663
11FXs are fucking Gods and seen that way by everyone. CCTs/PJs/SWOTs are valued assets to SOF. What are you talking about?

Are you talking about the other jobs? The other jobs are admin and those jobs are in every branch. Air finance and army finance personnel are the same low quality turds regardless of uniform. What are you on about?

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>>33421673
The Navy, Army, and USMC are about 75% admin roles.

The USAF is about 95% admin roles. This is why the air force is allowed to have lower standards and weird mental quirks than the other branches. Because that low quality is less likely to cause any real harm.

The 5% that is actually combat relevant is held to the same standard as the relevant positions seen in the Army, Navy, USMC and Coast Guard.

See pic related. Pay no attention to the chubs in the background. Air Force roles can be extremely relevant if you are one of the guys in the foreground. Its simple.

Tell me about becoming an unarmed combat instructor -- about pay, rank progression, or anything else. Is it where people go to seal in their fate of staying below the NCO level? I feel like if I get into such a specialty I'll never get promoted. No chance of sergeant/officer school?

I don't think they're still considered part of the infantry, are they? It's a little strange how it all works.

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>taking the ASVAB in a few hours

>>33421726

It's mostly an additional duty. Gets you some brownie points for promotion, but it's not a full-time MOS. There's no reason being an instructor would make it harder to promote, but you're not going to spend a career doing it.

>>33421942
Where I'm from it's a full-time specialty, or MOS :(

What about the instructors at the MACE though? Or Fort Benning?

>>33421942
>>33421997

I believe you guys call it a 'combatives instructor'.

>>33422030

In the Army you can attend the combatives instructor course, but it wouldn't change your specialty to combatives instructor. You would still be expected to eventually rotate back to your regular job. If you wanted to do it as a career, you'd have to do it as a civilian.

Alright dudes, I want to do intel shit.
Which branch, in your opinion, has the best enlisted intelligence and why?

Really I'm looking to do some cool shit and maybe get a related job after the military, but I haven't ruled out staying in for the 20 if I like it.

Which specialties get to do cool guy stuff or have good marketability?

Thanks

>>33422051
What of MOS 8513 -- the Marine Combat Instructor?

>>33422076

Navy and Army are good choices here. Air Force promotes a lot slower and gives you control over your career.

>Which specialties get to do cool guy stuff or have good marketability?

There are often, but not always, in opposition. The most marketable intel work is usually desk work unless you get some very specialized tactical experience.

If you really want to do tactical intel, you're not going to be able to beat Army 35-series with an Option 40. Other branches don't have a direct route into SOF intel like the Army does.

>>33422149
Thank you anon, that's helpful.
I've thought really heavily about trying that route out, my grandpa was a ranger in Vietnam so I know that would make him really happy

>>33422149

>Air Force promotes a lot slower and gives you control over your career.

Meant to say less control over your career. You don't always get to pick your specialty or shred.

Can anybody tell me something about the job as Aviation Maintenance Officer?

>>33412256
what do you want to know about 68w?

>>33422259
How is life for them? How is their social rank in the army?

>>33411727
wtf is that thing fishing for?

>>33422314
>social rank

The fuck is all this new age touchy feely shit in this thread? You all sound like a bunch of pussies letting this shit beca factor.

>>33422314
>social rank
What? Do you mean political rank, because that's the only social rank that matters. Its an enlisted job, so its social rank is ZERO like all enlisted jobs.

Are you a chick?

>>33422314

>2012+5
>Choosing your job based off of how cool other people might think it is.

I think you may have gotten the military confused with junior year of High School, anon.

>>33422396
>junior year of High School
You described a fair amount of enlisted jobs. Its how enlisted cucks think. Even worse are the females who genuinely see the military as an extension of their highschool/freshman year of college experience.

>>33422323
Libo

>>33420128
I got an Arabic dialect and I'm actually pretty talented at learning foreign languages, so I'm confident I'll be able to learn some extra dialects and max the bonus within a year or so of graduating.

>>33422816

Said literally every linguist ever. Statistically, most people can't even maintain a 3/3 in one language.

>>33422489
>implying officers are any better
I genuinely think you don't become fully unfucked until like 25 and even then that's just biologically, not psychologically.

>>33422839
Whatever man.
If "most people" are like 90% of DLI students who barely even graduate and don't do any extra studying whatsoever I'm not worried one bit.

>>33422909

Have you taken the DLPT yet?

>>33422940
No. I'm only halfway through the course. 3.9 GPA

>>33421335
All the injured in my battery except two (me included) are quitting. This is some memery

Nobody has anything serious either, mostly runner's injuries. I got a sacral stress fracture

>>33422327
>>33422365
>>33422396
Sounds like some people need to check there military privilege. Not everyone gets the same respect for doing different jobs. You need to acknowledge your privileged position and try to think how people without the luxury of your privilege feel.

Only been in the Air Force for six months and I'm already talking to an Army recruiter about making the switch.

Don't join the Air Force solely because you've heard it's the "smart branch".

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>>33423417
I joined the Marines in lieu of the Air Force and I love it.

>>33423417
Job?
Why leave? What makes you want to switch to army?
t.someone thinking of going AF

>>33423417
>the "smart branch"
Because it really isn't. Think about any pseudo-intellectual you know that attended a community college. Its that kind of "smart".

>>33423516
My job is Munitions Systems, AKA Ammo.

To start, I never wanted this job. My recruiter said take it, or walk my ass over to another branch (why the fuck didn't I do that). I had heard about how the Air Force was the smart branch, when in reality everyone is a self important moron with no capability to compromise to accomplish the mission. You don't get recognition for being good at your job, no, you need to spend a ton of time volunteering outside of your job if you want awards packages or a good rating on your performance report. And I honestly just feel like a civilian with tigerstripe camo on, I hate it.

With all that being said though, the quality of life is certainly the best of the branches, so if that's important to you, take that into account. I also got to go to Europe for my first assignment.

>>33423553
And yes, this is pretty spot on.

Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to become a fighter pilot in the AF, Navy and Marines?

>>33423652
20/20 vision or 20/17 with corrective. You also have to be an officer, which means OCS/OTS.

>>33423628
>the quality of life is certainly the best of the branches
I keep hearing this but what does it actually mean?
Like what you get more days off?

>>33423710
AF is basically like an 8-5 job. You do your shit, go home, and then do you for the rest of the night. They also allocate more funds to living quarters (they're often the first things built when a new base is being developed,) and the chow is all-around better.

>>33423710
Better Barracks, DFACs, less mandatory PT.

>>33423652
only 1 in 30 make it through fighter school. this is AFTER just getting through a degree (typically in engineering), getting through OCS, and getting through regular flight school.

if you wash out of fighter school, be prepared to fly mail carriers and C-130's for the rest of your tour.

when they say best of the best, they mean it. good luck.

>>33423710
Our bases are generally nicer and apparently deployments are less bad for us.

>>33423731
>>33423742
That clears it up thanks.

just hit terminal leave boys. got accepted to the university of my choice and am about to collect 2k$ in GI bux a month for the next 3 years while i go to school.

hang in there enlisted bro's.

>>33423743
Making it through fighter pilot training is not the difficult part. Making it THERE, is the difficult part. I'd say 1 in 30 more accurately describes the amount of people that get selected for a fighter airframe over heavies.

>>33423795
>$2k a month

Are you including FASFA or something? Living allowance is only a little above 1k a month. You get a book stipend of ~$400 for full time, but that is just once a semester.

And remember that the first and last months of a semester are pro-rated to gyp you out of cash.

(GI Bill is still pretty good, just don't have stars in your eyes about how much it supports you).

>>33423012

Kek.

>>33423932

>Living allowance is only a little above 1k a month.

MHA is based on zipcode, m8. If you're in bumfuck nowhere it's like $1k/mo. If you're in San Francisco or New York it's $4k/mo. Anon is probably living in a major metropolitan area, $2k is completely believable.

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>be me
>6 or so months ago
>fat autistic weak weeaboo fuck but decided to join the army as infantry anyways
>get there, 12 pushups on first pt test, 30 sit ups 17:30 2mile
>be there for 10 weeks then get recycled
>get a lot better in 2nd company but still fail apft 3 because of pushups but am now maxing sit ups
>get recycled again at that point have been here for 20 weeks and seen my first company graduate
>actually start to get gains in 3rd company, 43 pushups, 86 sit ups, 13:10 run
>actually get offered special forces contract
>mfw
>am currently on family day and have been here for a little over 6 months


Will answer questions.

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>>33423710
>>33423731
If you are still living in barracks after 2 years in the military, you fucked up extra hard. Nice barracks are only relevant immediately after basic/boot camp/recruit training/BMT and AIT/SOI/MOS School/Tech School.

By the time you are two to three years in, you'll be living on your own and will be paid less than your Navy, Army, and USMC equivalents because they will already have outranked you in the same amount of time.

Having a nice dorm room should not be your first priority.

>>33424209
Do they offer RASP to many people at basic? I want nothing more than to go to the Regiment but because I'm technically prior service they can't guarantee me RASP on the contract.

>>33424247
Not that guy but he was offered special forces contract, not RASP.
Rangers are not SF.

Also don't get your hopes up for getting offered anything.
You can always go to RASP later on from a different MOS.

>>33424247
Yes. Almost certainly if your gt is above 110 and pt is above i believe 260. There will be a guy from regiment who comes around and offers all the people with those qualifications contracts. If he doesnt and you are squared away and meet the requirements ask your drill sergeant. 95% chance you will get it. But also ask at meps. They honestly practically hand out op 40s. Also ask for a bonus. No harm in trying.

>>33424292
I am aware.

>>33424300
Not sure what GT is since I did Air Force ASVAB but I got a 99 in all categories so I think I'm good there. I'll try and push for an op 40 at meps but recruiter said they can't offer that to prior service

>>33424245
>free place to sleep vs moving away from base to pay money for a place to sleep

>>33424300
> They honestly practically hand out op 40s

For what purpose

>>33424406
>free
Staying in barracks results in a denial of BAH, resulting in thousands of dollars of less money. "Free" indeed.

>>33424470
>waking up extra early
no

>>33424417
Many idiots here have op 40s. The reason ive always heard it rationalized is that they prefer to have a large pool to choose a few good guys from.

>>33424582
Isn't the Army wasting money by doing that?

>>33424620
You really think they care about that?
Lol

>>33424620
The army has much worse ways of wasting money than option 40 contracts.
At least op 40s serve a purpose in recruiting.

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I'm doing must Thai classes and in the enlisting process hoping to get 11x but would it be a health problem from it cause of the constant kicking kills your nerves and mini fractures in your tibia and fibula to help not feel pain

* muay ^^^

>>33424688
Give up the classes a month before shipping and take it easy on running or you'll get shin splints.

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>>33424688
>88
good luck anon, Kek is with you.

What is the difference between AF and Army EOD, which is better?

>>33424564

>Not having your own place
>have to keep all your guns at moms place or in the armory

U wot

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Tell me about the Chaplain Corps.

The only time I ever hear anything about them is when they make the news for stuff like:
>MUSLIM ARMY CHAPLAIN TO STEWARD 14,000 MOSTLY CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS
>Army chaplains to remove ‘conquer’ from 102-year-old motto because it is offensive to Muslims
exc.

What is Chaplin training actually like if they don't focus on a single religion?
Or do they focus on a religion, and if the soldiers are not that religion to bad?

>>33425262
They're both not as good as Navy EOD.

>>33425337
>Not spending your good boy points on chicken tendies before going to the range
You wot m8?

>>33425387
Why?

Has anybody experience regarding naturalization by serving in the US military?
https://www.thebalance.com/becoming-a-citizen-in-the-u-s-military-3356945

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Cav Scouts are pussy POGs too scared to go infantry

>>33425399
Navy EOD all get HALO and dive certified meaning they get the additional pay.
They do high speed shit with SEALs and other SOF.
If all you want is to be EOD, the only reason not to pick Navy is because you're a nonhacker and can't handle being SOF.

>>33425420

What do cav scouts actually do?

>>33425448
Buttfuck in bradleys and talk shit about infantry.

>>33425445
Haven't there been reports about the younger Navy EOD sailors being practically Seal-lite's with only very basic EOD skills?

>>33425420
even though they actually do everything infantry does and more?

>>33425480
I'm almost 100% sure Navy EOD has the longest EOD course compared to the other branches.
Don't quote me on this though but I'm sure you could Google the pipeline for all 3 and compare.

>>33425492
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>33425375
bump.

>>33424245
>>33424470
Joining air force, no significant other. I was under the impression being married was the only way to getting housing.

>>33425492
I highly doubt you know what you're talking about.

What exactly does the infantry do during peacetime?

>>33425725
You usually get BAH when you become an NCO. That's not guarantedd though. Some bases overseas only give BAH if you're E-7 or higher.

Is 13F considered a POG job

>>33426492
thanks for the answer

>>33426549
anything that isnt 11B or 0311 is a POG job

>>33426847

Including Special Forces?

>>33426880
POG

Person
Other than
Grunt

So yes, SF are technically POGS.
But in the best way.

>>33418577
what's the likelihood of getting a opt 40 currently?

>>33425262
All the branches go to the same course to earn an EOD badge, which takes about a year. Navy does additional dive training after that point.

All fresh EOD guys will have the same ordnance and IED knowledge. After certification, Navy training tends to skew more shooter and expediantly oriented. Their ordnance technical skills and dedicated skills for robots, PANs, and other equipment tend to go on the backburner since they skew toward mark & bypass and expediant demo. Younger Navy EOD culture views themselves very much as SEAL lite.

Marine EOD tends to skew more towards individual autonomy within team due to the Marine requirement to be NCOs before attending EOD school. This means they consistently bring prior knowledge in from other MOS, which can be very helpful.

Army is the biggest EOD component and has the most variety in unit types. You have a CBRNE specialist unit that takes CBRNE handoffs from all other EOD, you have a dedicated SF/SOF unit, and you have normal units rotating on and off SF or other assignments. The training pushed is usually more in-depth technical ordnance and IED identification and defeat with dedicated tools. They support local police most widely.

USAF skews like Army but smaller makeup and without a stateside focus.

Different branches skew different priority and culture, though its not to say any of this is in absolutes. You also have the post-military DOD jobs for EOD which work alongside active military and are filled by all branches.

>>33425387
Are you in the community or are you just a hyperactive fanboy?

>8:12 mile on treadmill
>decide to try running on road
>14:00 mile

Hope and optimism: gone

>>33427768
We're still early in the fiscal year so pretty decent. I'm going to sign my contract next month, getting airborne contracts and so forth seems pretty easy right now. Just make sure to have a good asvab score and then you have a good negotiation position.

>>33428032
You need to self-pace. Load up some techo bullshit club music that has a fast,repetitive beat to help you out.

>>33428065
Yeah, I'll have to try that, thanks.

Still, what a fucking downer. I regret buying the treadmill because now I have no idea how to run outside.

Two year contracts exist, right? Are they a waste of time? Do you lose out on anything by not doing a 4 year? Do they offer the same opportunities? If you like the life are you able to re-enlist just fine?

Talking mostly Army.

>>33428438
Two year contract will mean you don't get all of your GI bill benefit, and will also mean you incur a reserve obligation besides just IRR.

>>33414989
>MMN
>Probably MMN3 on grad leave from his 3 weeks of A school
Respectfully, fuck you Petty Officer.

Anyone know about MOS 8513 -- the Marine Combat Instructor?

>>33428130
>I regret buying the treadmill
Everyone does.
Hope you got it used.

>>33428438
Yes but you have to do 4 years reserve or guard, also you lose a lot of benefits

>>33429206
Nope.

$550 new at Walmart.

>>33427914
The last EOD guy in the last threads said that the USAF EOD were the poorest performers.

>>33431612
They get the same EOD qualification and selection as everybody else. Their after course training is robot and ordnance prioritized, rather than shooter but they get some. It really depends on the individuals.

Last time I saw USAF EOD working, they were coming into our TOC on a break from high operations tempo supporting a joint SOF taskforce. So yah know, its whatevs.

The whole community is pretty tight across the branches. The younger Navy guys think pretty highly of themselves, but high op tempo and experience mellows them (usually). Across the branches there is a lot of material, training, andl info cross support. Also internationally foreign EOD guys tend to welcome/be welcomed. The rivally stuff is just fluff that is a micro-version of cross branch ribbing.

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Thinking of joining the Royal Navy. Can't join as an officer as I lack the UCAS points, and they don't care that I have a degree in Computer Science.

Is it worth it just going in as a rating?

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Is it true that all Air Force enlisted jobs eventually end up performing glorified 3S0 Personnelist duties?

>>33413979
got a 98 and currently on midcycle pass at benning for 11b. I'm NG though some I'm not a career guy

>>33426910
>>33426880
>>33426847
BS 11c are grunts and 300 series is all grunts.

They are called Special Forces infantry and they go to Infantry OSUT.

>>33431921
They seriously don't care about degree? I'm surprised, figured it would supersede not having enough UCAS points.

>>33427768
easy if you have a PT score above 240 but better if it's in the 270+ range at basic. 75th is understaffed right now

>>33432034
Exactly what I thought mate, going to see if I can get around it as they do adjustments on a case by case basis.

How is the german military and it`s members seen compared to americans?
I'm curios if it is worth joining or if I should start learning french to join the FFL or the Belgian military.

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Which job in the military does this accurately describe?

I bet I could fuck all of their women.

>>33432826
None.

>>33432826
Jesus fucking Christ that picture is 100% me.

I need to finally get laid

>>33432897
Fucking pathetic.

>>33432923
I know.

It's not my fault though.

>>33432943
Then who's is it?

>>33432951
My parents for refusing to let me go to public/private school so I can develop social skills.

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Ok guys, I need some advice.

I tried to be a sherrif for my local county and I failed their goofy polygraph test. If they decide I was lying I will never work in any law enforcement.

My next though was to join the military to learn a trade that I can use when I'm out. The thing is, I'm 26. Is it worth it to join the military that late and not use it as a career? Will they even accept me if I was rejected by a sheriff's dept for flunking a polygraph?

>>33432971
What hobbies do you have other than jerking off and video games?

>>33432826
Air Force enlisted

>>33433106
Polygraph don't matter for joining military.
No it's not to late, and even if you did a full 20 years you could potentially retire at 46 with your pension and hopefully you were smart with money while in and maxed an IRA and did some other investing.

>>33433120
I like to read. Jerking off, video games and reading is all I pretty much do now. That's why I'm considering joining the military because I have no idea what the hell I want to do with myself.

>>33433153
That's good to know, but I was mainly concerned with serving long enough to gain experience in a field I could use after I'm out and do a career in.

>>33433314
If that's what you really want to do then just do the 4 years and get out and use your GI bill for a related associates.


Honestly it's really not required to get a job in the military that relates to something when you get out. Yeah the job experience is a good idea but you could also just do whatever interests you in the military then use the GI bill to learn whatever trade you want. Not to mention a lot of employers have veteran preference no matter what they did in the military.

Just some shit to think about.

>>33433387
>a lot of employers have veteran preference
Nice meme

>>33434563
It's not.
Especially with any kind of contract work having anything to do with testing or developing military equipment and vehicles.

>>33433387
>Honestly it's really not required to get a job in the military that relates to something when you get out. Yeah the job experience is a good idea but you could also just do whatever interests you in the military then use the GI bill to learn whatever trade you want.

Wiser words have never been spoken.

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Why do military officers have superior aesthetics to military enlisted so often?

Also why are they almost always taller?

>>33433387
>>33434717

Stop trying to meme poor anons into shitty untransferable jobs.

>>33434773
These threads are rife with recruiters desperate to raise numbers and salty as fuck senior enlisted who want everyone else to be as much of a failure as they were.

>>33434761
superior officer genetics

>>33414736

Engineer is surprisingly not the case with this. I'm at EBOLC right now, and since Engineer, at least in the Army, is only about 30% active and the rest reserves/guard, you get a huge disparity in quality. We got a couple of (((New York))) National Guard who are very anti-gun.

>>33415078

I mean occasionally you get to shoot up a Somalian pirate boat

>>33434773
Who gives a shit about transferable and untransferable shitty jobs when you can use the GI Bill?

Why go into the military to be a mechanic when you can easily be a mechanic without going into the military?

If you're a smart person you can go into whatever MOS or Rate you desire and after the military you can use the GI Bill to learn what you want to learn. Fuck going into the military for a desk job you can easily acquire without the military.

>>33434761

Ok serious question, what's an MP officer doing in a SOCOM unit? Didn't know that was a thing

>>33434854

>Who gives a shit about transferable and untransferable shitty jobs when you can use the GI Bill?

Employers, mainly.

>Why go into the military to be a mechanic when you can easily be a mechanic without going into the military?

Mechanics specifically? Because military mechanics make more money, have better benefits, and can retire a lot sooner than most private mechanics.

>If you're a smart person you can go into whatever MOS or Rate you desire and after the military you can use the GI Bill to learn what you want to learn. Fuck going into the military for a desk job you can easily acquire without the military.

This attitude is why so many people spend 5-10 years after they exit the service drifting around and being fuckups. Get a transferable job while you're in, get your degree while you're in, get a good job when you're out and use your GI Bill to buy jetskis.

>>33434861
Women just kind of do whatever.

>You will never be a woman. You will never get to do whatever, just because you want to.

How difficult is 35F AIT compared to difficult AITs such as anything cyber or language dependent?

How long does it usually take to finish an online masters with Tuition assistence?
Assuming no deployments to interrupt progress.

>>33434877
>This attitude is why so many people spend 5-10 years after they exit the service drifting around and being fuckups

Those type of people are usually fuck ups no matter what. If you can't go to school and get your shit together after the military then that's on them.

>>33435019

Optionally, just get your shit together when you join and don't pick a retard-tier job.

>>33432565
Depends on the unit, I've seen some American units that were pretty bad and some that were top-notch.
The only Germans I've worked with are some Fallschirmjägers and those guys are squared away as fuck but don't represent the Germany military as a whole.

>>33435064
Or you could choose a job you want in the military and use the GI Bill for a job you want in the civilian world.

>>33434892
>language dependent
Some people fail no matter how hard they try, others succeed with no effort.
It's largely a matter of aptitude. DLI isn't necessarily hard, but it's possible to go there and quickly find out you have no chance of passing.
But I imagine the 35F AIT would be much easier for most people.

>>33418577
hey if i wanted to go ranger, would telling the truth about my drug history be okay?

>>33435149
There's probably no point unless you need a TS.

>>33435149
Do you have any police records? No?

Don't say anything.

>>33435161
>>33435167
what if i planned on trying out for SF in the future?

>>33435195
iirc, SF only has secret clearance, the same as ranger.

>>33435195
Just lie like everyone else.
Don't incriminate yourself. At best you'd be waiting around for a waiver, at worst they wouldn't let you join.
And 2 or 3 years down the road nobody's gonna look at your enlistment documents. The army will probably have lost them by that time desu.
Even if you have to fill out an SF-86, unless there's a papertrail relating to your drug use or your contacts are morons who might disclose it, there's no need to even tell the truth on that.

>>33435262
>>33435332
but if i wanted a TS should i still lie?

>>33426549
I just selected 13F as my MOS.

>>33434761
>Ranger

>>33435536
>Not a scroll
No one cares

>>33435447
I think it depends largely on what you want to do and how badly they need you, but I was fully honest in my enlistment and never had any problems. I'm a dual citizen with prior drug use who's been through therapy - I had to fill out a bunch of forms but nobody ever seemed too phased by anything.

>>33433106
I'm considering going into LE after I finish my army contract. What did you lie about, what kind of shit will they ask at the poly?

Should I buy a laptop before I ship? Mainly just for gaming, storing movies, internet browsing . Also do they monitor your internet and go through your stuff? Navy btw

>>33433292
>Wahh my parents fault im a crybaby virgin faggot!!!

lol the military is definitely not for you

>>33436232
Don't bother getting one now. You won't be able to use it during boot anyway. You may or may not be able to use it on some downtime for your MOS training depending on what you're doing.

Wait until you're on leave right after boot to buy.

>Monitoring
You don't get monitored anymore than the rest of us. Internet in the barracks is generally supplied by a civilian company and you pay out monthly just like a civilian for it.

I swore into the Army as a 25S, did I do good /meg/?

>>33436179
if you're still lurking, they only asked me really broad stuff. with a few kind of specific questions
>Have you ever been in involved in any domestic abuse
>have you looked up how to falsify a polygraph test
>What is your name
>do you want to work in law enforcement
>are you prejudice or bigoted in any way?

I was a complete idiot though. I didnt stick to my story. only tell them shit they can find out by doing a background check on you. If you sold crack and only your best friend knows, then say you never have. When you're taking the polygraph just sing a chill song in your head until they ask the next one.

Do you have to get a security clearance for opt. 4

>>33437136

No Vincent Hall sucks and you'll operate an STT but not train on it.

Jk Sierras rock. Smartest people in the signal Corp.

t. Nasty Girl 25s and class honor graduate

>>33437213
Thanks. Yeah they ask about shit like that in the armed forces too but not with a poly. I'll just stick to the stuff I told the army then since they also run background checks for criminal records etc. There's nothing for them to find there. Literally taken 2 hits of pot in my life so I round that down to 0. don't want to blow my career on being honest about something like that, that would be retarded.

Currently they have a 0 tolerance for past weed use from what they told me at MEPS so admitting that would disqualify me.

>>33437745
Oh shit, I didn't think that I'd actually find anybody on here that's a sierra lol. I'm guessing that you're tac because you're NG?

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>>33437798

Yeah. I like it but if i had been active I could have gone 1C which is super "gucci". I was at B co 551 on Gordon. Theyre very restrictive on privledges there. No pov. No civvies at first. Augusta sucks and is a money pit.

But we're a rare breed and its breeti cool. Pic related is proofs I could show of my terminal when I get to it ttomorrow.

>>33411568
So, Warrant Officer USMC, what's the best way to make that happen?

>>33437976
How hard is AIT and what exactly do you learn to work on in AIT? You don't have to go full in-depth, I just can't find much info online about satellite systems and whatnot

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How many people join because on some level they are hoping it will be like CoD?

>>33438120

Youll learn about modulation, electrical, multiplexing, ip addressing and signal flow in common core. There will be more info than necessary but pay attention.

Tac learns hands on on the an/tsc 93e and the 156? Phoenix. Idk what the strat guys do but their course is shorter. Which one you do is need of the army based if youre active. 1C is an additional course usually offersd to active duty honor grads where you learn to control the satellite itself.

>>33438120
Ctrl F is your friend manuals are huge and tests are open book because in the field you will have a manual to reference.

>>33438165
None.

>>33438232
>>33438262
Thanks, I'm pretty excited that I was able to get this MOS. Did you/are you pursuing a civilian job or schooling related to the MOS?

>>33437745
>bragging about being honorman in military training

>>33421191
Can you explain a little bit, because all I am gathering from that statement is
>waste time and money at community college even if you don't know what you are there for

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Is Rosacea disqualifying for the Army? I haven't been diagnosed for it or anything, but my cheeks have been kinda red for over a year now, and I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Will they say something about it at MEPS, and if so what should I say?

>>33438672
>I haven't been diagnosed for it or anything
then you don't have it, if it somehow shows up at MEPS they'll tell you, i don't thinks it's disqualifying

>>33438672
that you're blushing because you're a cute anime girl

>>33438700
Right, but my cheeks are pretty red and its noticeable, I'm just wondering if they'll mention it and if they do what do I say?

>>33434861
>Ok serious question, what's an MP officer doing in a SOCOM unit?
SRT falls under socom it think

>>33438714
just say you have red cheeks don't stress it

>>33438746
Alright, thanks

>>33438363

Going to school for electrical engineering this year. I will sdmit the army Do good.

>>33411776
>it's not my fault I use my body to gain an unfair advantage while simultaneously endangering my coworkers

Kys

I was kicked out of NROTC my senior year for disciplinary reasons. They said I was 'discharged' from my naval service obligationbut I never got a DD214. Can I still enlist in the army?

do you have to take a polygraph for secret or top security clearance

>>33439409
Not for secret, you do for top secret

Any Canadian /k/ommandos here? I live in Ottawa and I want to join the army reserves, which is the best unit?

make a new thread

>>33440480
you do it

>>33440572
Made it