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bcm edition

old thread >>33244395
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>>33246366

The guy claims to have a ton. Should I really buy them all?

How much are they worth normally?
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>>33246367
SPBP
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the logo is worth the price edition :^)
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>>33246367
Inna thread.
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>>33246367
post pics of your paint stripped 14.5 please
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My friend is building an AR and keeps ignoring my advice. So far he's bought
Mag Tactical magnesium receiver
Magpul BAD
A2 grip
A secondhand crunchy noname receiver extension for $5
16" carbine gas barrel
Hexmags
Battlecomp

I'm afraid he's going to end up with some stupid green zombie meme gun with mirrors and a plastic bayonet but he won't listen to me. LISTEN TO ME
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>>33246367
>surefire dual switch
>no surefire
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>>33246367
Decides to steal the Harris bipod off one of my brothers bolt actions I have, whats a good but cheap 1913 rail mount for it?
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>>33246388
if they're like pic related and have a aluminum/chrome follower.

Like $35 each is normal
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>>33246401
I wouldn't listen to you either.
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>>33246401
he'll figure it out, eventually...
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>>33246407
Give it to me straight doc

They real?
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>>33246406
kys nigger
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>>33246367
>BCM
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>>33246378
Nope. Two I bought cause they're from WA, one I bought cheap for a pistol build, and one I've had for a while.

>>33246401
Snap his reciever extension to prove your point.
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>>33246424
ok, colt and still hella worth $10 each

probably could sell them to all sorts of people for around 30-40. buy them all
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>>33246406
Check Amazon, there's a couple options.
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>>33246431
*ignore $30-40
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>>33246431
>tfw don't have enough money to get the many dozens he claims to have

I plan on grabbing at least a few though

Maybe I should resell them to arg for 13-15 a piece like the kike I am :^
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>>33246443
id buy a few if you where local. but im not gonna send a randy anon my federal credits
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Did CG get b& for shitposting?
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>>33246463
ya
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>>33246456
riperonis

It's the same dude I bought my AR from though so I have trust in the guy, he's just an oldass fudd who only takes money orders

He's constantly selling shit for stupid cheap though
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>>33246409
i like talking and reading about ARs and this is the only place i can do that with out it being fudd shit
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>>33246470
>He's constantly selling shit for stupid cheap though
That's because nobody buys shit with money orders.
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>>33246465
Haha what a faggot
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>>33246470
well buy as many as you can for that price. even if you end up not liking them, you can sell them very quick for profit.
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>>33246473
HRT when?
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>>33246429
did you sell that pistol upper?
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>>33246477
Nah he sells a ton of stuff

He's an FFL and I guess he's getting rid of stuff that he had from the election still

>>33246483
>40 dollars in my free money account since I've spent almost 2 grand on guns in the past week

IT HURTS MAN
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>>33246492
yeah cuz hes a faggot
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>>33246431
>ok, colt and still hella worth $10 each
>probably could sell them to all sorts of people for around 30-40. buy them all

1+

this is what i would do.
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>>33246484
n o w
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>>33246367
Are the KAC lowers going to be a continuous thing or a limited run?
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>>33246401
Beretta teh sex
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giddy post babbys poo paint stripped 14.5 AR WTF
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>>33246431
https://www.armsunlimited.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=39284
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>>33246492
ya
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>>33246541
i know its hard anon, but try and read

>>33246442
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>>33246401
There is literally nothing wrong with carbine gas

Also are the mag tac lowers shit? There's a place around here selling them for $30 a piece. Thought about picking a couple up just because cheap
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So how illegal is it to convert your rifle to full auto?

Are there states that allow 3 round burst?
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>>33246558
What? They are Colt 20rd mags for $20
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>>33246543
how much did you get? mega reciever? what barrel?
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What kind of stock tube should I get for a SPR build? Like rifle length, carbine length or something with a special length of pull?
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>>33246564
>So how illegal is it to convert your rifle to full auto?
10 years fed pen and $10k mandatory
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>>33246559
>There is literally nothing wrong with carbine gas

when will you stop lying

>Also are the mag tac lowers shit?
yes
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>>33246564
>So how illegal is it to convert your rifle to full auto?
like 10yrs in prison

>Are there states that allow 3 round burst?
that's full auto
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>>33246564
10yr $50k
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>>33246564
It's very very illegal. Extra illegal. Extremely illegal. Highly illegal
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>>33246564
It's totally legal, post pics and video of you with it
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>>33246564
10 years and a felony and dead dog and nogunz for the rest of your life, but you know that already atf man
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>>33246564
>So how illegal is it to convert your rifle to full auto?

EXTREMELY

>Are there states that allow 3 round burst?

NO

DONT TRY IT AND DONT ASK HOW TO
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>>33246574
Aero upper and a ba barrel. iirc 500
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>>33246579
>>33246583
>>33246584
>>33246587
>>33246596
>>33246597


Jesus fuck why such a steep penalty? Is it some left horseshit law that they keep in force or is it full auto ban supported by both sides?
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>>33246577
Do you want an adjustable stock or a fixed stock?
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>>33246597
>DONT ASK HOW TO
That part is legal.
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>>33246581
>when will you stop lying

Explain. Then if you use the "muh harder on stuff meme" show your work
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>>33246602
>Jesus fuck why such a steep penalty?
muh bootleggers muh tommyguns muh feels
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>>33246606
im not telling him anything, he obviously doesn't understand how illegal it is
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>>33246599
why did you sell it? it looked pretty good and I'm sure it shot well
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>>33246602
Because we've been infiltrated by commies for decades now

If you want full auto you have buy a full auto gun or receiver that was made before 1986. It's going to cost at least 15k
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>>33246615
muh state wants to maintain a monopoly on violence
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>>33246632
depends on state
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>>33246622
It was a great upper but I wanted to fund other stuff and I didn't have the best job at the time. I sent in my form 1 so a similar upper will be in my future.
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>>33246640
Feds
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>>33246642
I see. well thanks for humoring me and good luck with new job, sbr, etc.
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>>33246660
Feds don't have a monopoly on violence in the US.
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>>33246680
they're doing their best
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>>33246668
Thanks senpai. I hope I get my stamp around Christmas.
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Well I ordered 3 colties

Who should I give the link to?
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>>33246717
me
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>>33246510
Why are capitalists such [spoiler]race traitors[/spoiler]?
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>>33246725
>>>/pol/
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>>33246722
arfcom ee
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>>33246725

this>>33246732
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>>33246738
It's not Arfcom
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Soon to be new owner. I'm going to need some advise for glitter for my shiny new man destroyer.

How many mags should I have and how do the clear ones hold up? I always wanted one for my glock but didn't really see the point when the magazine wasn't exposed.

Also some kind of scope for the M&P Sport II. Not for long distance shooting just average effective range.
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>>33246604
Probably adjustable right? I would like to put a carbine upper on it occasionally but if not possible then fixed.
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>>33246758
Lancers are good clear mags

The one you posted looks like shit
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>>33246753
Then someone else is selling colts for $10 each. Makes me think
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>>33246760
Then I'd get a mil spec carbine buffer tube
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>>33246776
Toplel, just checked EE to see what you mean and it's the same dude

He has more pics on EE tho
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>>33246602
Its the people who own full autos who keep it illegal today. If they become legal then their 50k dollar lowers are now worth 500 or less depending.

Basically capitalists.
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>>33246422
May I see your AR, guy?

>>33246559
Carbine gas is needlessly harsh when midlength exists for the same price.

And Mag Tech lowers aren't shit, no, but they're more prone to breaking if you do stupid shit like pushups balanced on the magazine. For $30, I'd buy a couple for range toys.

>>33246429
>Snap his reciever extension to prove your point.
I'm trying not to be mean or derisive with suggestions but shit's getting critical. He's looking at MFT stocks right now and he's definitely the kind of guy to sit there and braid a god damn paracord bridge for the thing.

>>33246758
ETS mags seem extremely durable but they're not as slippery as PMags. So while ETS mags (being engineered correctly and to correct specifications) will drop free, they will sometimes hold onto rounds too tightly, causing failures to feed in my case. IMO Lancer is where it's at for clear cool looking clips, and USGI for actual use.
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a day in the life at BCM
>wake up looking fresh as hell
>fuck my 10/10 gf 4 times before breakfast
>eat 10 eggs and 4 pounds of bacon bc im a man
>drive chopper to the office
>fuck yeah i love motorcycles
>get on factory floor
>employees using $5000 torque wrenches
>so much invested in torque qc we have no money to buy into mlok, eric kincel keeps stalking my home at night anyways
>dont want to piss of that fucking guy
>no money left over to design anything but penis rails that bend
>not to mention the 4 million stickers we have
>sending out 5 with each shipment, doesnt even seem to make a dent
>spraypaint BCM on everything to remind ourselves we arent colt
>workers and i high five all the way to the crossfit gym to try and pump the pain away of having exactly 0 government contracts

such is life in the world of beta cuck males
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>>33246817
>harsh
>5.56mm

You only get one

I'll take carbine reliability every time
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>>33246828
Kek
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>>33246817
>>33246774
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/mag-ar-15-556x45mm-30-round-lancer-l5awm-hybrid-translucent-smoke-body-steel-feed-lips-rubberized-floor-plate-738435615000.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn

These guys?

Also scope my dudes.
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>>33246838
>I'll take carbine reliability every time
You mean the reliability you achieve after you fiddle with spring weights, buffer weights and gas port size/adjustable gas blocks?
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>>33246857
PA 3x prism
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>>33246861
Don't bother, it's clearly over his head.
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>>33246857
>cheaperthandirt
Don't do it.
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>>33246865
>$259.99
Can it detect Predators?
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>>33246880
probably
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>>33246880
>he thinks 260 is expensive for an optic
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giddy

pls
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>>33246877
I am a neophyte here. You will need to expand your post to include toddler level talking down to because I'm a pure open container of innocence unbridled by experience.

Why not cheaperthandirt?
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>>33246904
Getting into optics can be kind of daunting when you very first start shopping and trying to feel things out. I'm kinda glad I picked up an inexpensive PA to start off with, because now I have a much better idea of what I want and expect out of an optic for the money. Plus, I got to practice with one sooner, so I'd argue that there is at least some merit to wanting an entry level optic first. I'm glad I tried a low power variable before just dropping more money on a 3-9 or a nicer fixed power optic.
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>>33246367
I haven't shot the 5.56 stuff from Freedom Munitions yet. How fucked am I if I buy some?
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>>33246988
Maybe if you're fucking retarded
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>>33246998
you'll be fine
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>>33247010
Even with the reloaded stuff?
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>>33246969
Look at the price of the magazine in the photo.

That was following Sandy Hook, where the most dishonest retailers tried to price gouge panic-stricken gun owners before bans were introduced.

The bans never materialized, and CTD returned their prices back to """""normal""""". CTD has also been known to fabricate false "normal" prices so that the sale percentage is significantly higher than it should be, again trying to trick customers. They do it so often that they will sometimes make up a wrong number and end up with negative sales. Pic related.

I could go on, but suffice it to say CTD is the very worst online retailer, ethically speaking. You can image search "cheaper than dirt price" for dozens of examples of this. Don't give them business no matter what kind of deal you find in the future.
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>>33246861
You mean to tell me you would stick with filthy gi spring and carbine buffer?!

LMAO'ing @ u pleb middyfag

buying springco red+h3 (or three tungsten weight from KAK ind.) and do function check with zero lube+fully loaded usgi with weak tula that have been sitting in freezer. reload mag to full 30 round for few shots then few time with empty mag checking if it lock back. If it recoil with some authority it's perfect. if recoil feel too weak and sissy then its too close to failing then step down to h2 weight by taking apart the buffer and switch weight with carbine buffer you already have to make h2.

enjoy your duty ready rifle that will last 10k+ with gas ring replaced timely at 3k(this is early from failure point by at least 1k for carbine gassed) even then it is less sensitive to failure from worn gas ring like middy. bolt will last past 10k easy if its quality made 158cm hpt/mpi bolt.
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>>33247030
So nothing wrong with the magazine the site is just run by greedy fucking jews that don't deserve business. Fair enough I'll look elsewhere.
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>>33247047
the magazine is fine it just msrps for like 19.99

go with okay industry, magpul, lancer or d and h
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>>33246969
>>33247030
>>33247047
Oh, I forgot that they once also decided not to sell guns anymore because muh children.

But then they re-decided that they liked money better, so began again.

Also they arbitrarily decide whether to or not to sell to certain states, on a whim, off and on.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/foghorn/breaking-cheaperthandirt-suspends-all-firearm-sales

>>33247063
>recommending magpul
LISTEN HERE U LITTLE FUCKO
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>>33247063
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/l5awm-translucent-smoke-30rd-magazine-10-pack-sku100022993-95203-191813.aspx

10 for $129 with free shipping. That is $12.99 a mag. Go for it?
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>>33247063
Since okay mags are good, would buying this be a good deal or will that make me a top-tier faggot?
Not the same anon you're responding to, btw.

https://www.botach.com/12-magazines-package-deal/
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>>33247084
youre good
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>>33247088
>botach
These guys take 2 months to ship
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>>33247084
Those are fine.

>>33247088
>botach
Fuck, they're coming out of the woodwork!

Botach is another top-jew scamshit garbage company you should avoid forever.

Their reputation is price baiting, cancelled orders, and charging for orders that never ship. This reputation is ongoing. Look them up on reseller ratings and various review sites.

DO NOT BUY FROM BOTACH
DO NOT BUY FROM CHEAPER THAN DIRT
MAGPUL A SHIT
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>>33247108
>>33247117
That kind of sucks. I think I'll avoid this and get a different chest rig, in that case.
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>>33246828
Damn it feels good to be a gangster.
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I thought qd sling swivels were a kind of new thing but then I saw the WA-2000 video and it had one.

1948
https://www.google.com/patents/US2480662
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Never had a BCM but am looking at getting one.

What exactly makes a "Recce"?

I always see the name mentioned in conjunction with BCM and I noticed this upper didn't say it anywhere:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XBCMURG16BFHKMRA13

Help me to understand.
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>>33247175
Recce has generally always been a marketing term. Before the KMRs BCM was marketing the recce rifles as lightweight, relatively accurate mid-length guns with 14.5" (recce 14) or 16" (recce 16) barrels.

This upper was considered a recce 14.

Don't put much weight behind the word recce from anyone though, it means nothing.

In the most basic sense a recce rifle is just one intended to be relatively light rifles useful from close quarters ranges out to about 500 with reliable accuracy. That generally has as much to do with the optic and the rifle's intended use as it does with the exact profile of the barrel or the others components used.
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>>33247006
Potato, potato.
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>>33247208
Ok I think I've talked to you about BCM stuff about a week ago. Thanks for the answer.

Does that upper I linked look alright, anything I'm missing? I really wanted a 14.5" but those are 20% off and free shipping right now...
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>>33247225
Looks like a damn good 16" upper to me. Some folks dislike the KMR-A, but I would not hesitate to use one.
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>>33247254

Trying to decide if I should get that upper or the one with no handguard and use a 15" Geissele for a little more dosh...I had one of the old Geissele rails with the proprietary mounting system and it felt terrific but I got it for dirt.

And I really don't like keymod...

BCM's triggers are supposed to be "improved" right? Or is that only some of them. Similar to an ALG ACT?
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>>33247175

What the fuck is a "Barrel Forged Hammer"
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>>33247292
>"Barrel Forged Hammer"
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Alright what else?

Daddy caught the bug.
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>>33247283
I mean they are "improved" over basic bitch, gritty mil triggers from my experience, but they are nothing to write home about. Similar to the ACTs I've felt, which is to say a standard trigger that a competent bubba could match the quality of by going over it and smoothing everything out.

As far the rail dilemma...no sense in spending the money on the KMR-A if you're not going to be happy with it. The advantage of their rails is just how light and small they are, nothing much beyond that.
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>>33247162
thats kinda cool

>>33247327
suerfire m600
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>>33247292
Just what BCM is calling their hammer forged barrels.

Snow
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Flake
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>>33247333
>surefire m600
>PA 3x prism
>AR general wants me to spend more on a flashlight and scope then the fucking rifle
I don't know if you are attempting to ruse me or not.
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>>33247292
>>33247302
>>33247344
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>>33247292
BCM is very milspec, they even name their products milspec style

Barrel: forged, hammer
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>>33246817
Yes Burt you may.
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>>33247368
someone has pics of the solder inside a surefire tape switch and a chink version.

Surefire is clean, precisely and securely soldered

Chink version is all fucked up and uneven and fraying apart, like what you would see from an 11 year building an RC car kit

That's what you pay for
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>>33247368
its not a ruse

if you want something mire cheap get this, it needs to be single output
mount it like lets go did

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009F7J8MA/ref=twister_B01JGT9Y3Y?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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>>33246817
will you post your extremely cute 9mm ar
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are there any keymod tape-switch mounting options similar to the magpul mlok one?
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>>33247368
It's a generally accepted rule of thumb that your optics will cost nearly as much if not more than your base gun. Add a light on top of that and no, you are not being rused.
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>>33246401
>16" carbine gas barrel
I just bought a 16'' carbine for my first AR, why is this bad? how fucked am I?
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>>33247117
I ordered Okay mags from Botach once. 6 weeks later, they shipped. Another month after that, someone in Delaware got my credit card auto-cancelled by trying to order pizza from a Little Caesars.

AVOID BOTACH
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>>33247429
Well, it might be a little over gassed and cause a bit more recoil and wear on parts...Mid length is better for 16" for a softer smoother shooting.
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>>33247420
>>33247402
>>33247399
I see. You people are just fucking insane.
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>>33247459
It's your gun, buy trash if you want. Make sure to factor in the cost of replacement when you're shopping.
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bumpski
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>>33247399
>>33247459
inside a surefire brand pressure switch
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>>33247459
How so? God forbid you get into precision shooting where guys are putting $3000 optics on top of $4000 guns.

I don't think anyone is saying you can't function with budget stuff, but quality costs homeskillet.

I say that as someone who usually has only mid-tier optics and accessories at best.
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>>33247476
Chinese made pressure switch, broke when it was being taken apart
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>>33247480
>I say that as someone who usually has only mid-tier optics and accessories at best.
I'm not in the habit of complimenting trips, but Shark has really good guns with good stuff on them and all of it is affordable even for blue collar anons
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>>33246838
>I'll take carbine reliability
Lol such a dank meme.
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>>33246602
As far as the fine goes, the fedz probably figure you've been cranking them out for the black market, so they just want their fair cut.
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>>33247292
Did somebody in the gun making community pull a fine bros. and copy write Hammer Forged Barrel?
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>>33247524
good question
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>>33247368
>wants me to spend more on a flashlight and scope then the fucking rifle
>I don't know if you are attempting to ruse me or not.
Oh my sweet summer child.
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>>33246857
Cheaper than Dirt?

Damn son, you like support swarthy desert living merchants?
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>>33246564
>So how illegal is it to convert your rifle to full auto?
Illegal enough that the potential consequences make the deed not worth the risk in any way shape or form.
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So for my light I'm set on a SL ProTac Railmount 1L with a Gear Sector mount. Sling I'm probably going BFG padded, can't decide on black or brown though. Gonna sit on the muzzle device, don't see a reason to get something right now. Same with BUIS, I've got a fixed pair and don't like using them with the red dot so flip ups would never get used either. For magnified optics I'm kinda digging the SWFA SS 1-4x24 right now, I'm looking for something in the <$500 range.
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>>33247665
>streamlight
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>>33246564
illegal enough to go to pound-my-ass prison
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>>33247672
I'm not paying $200+ for a light when the streamlight will do the same job for $100, I'm not going to war with it. Not to mention the SL comes with a remote switch instead of being jewed out another $90 for the same kind of switch from surefire.
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>Looking on Eotech's site at their discontinued models
>User reviews are still up
> I would have to say the EOTech 553 is the one for me and that I have it on my IWI Tavor but i can't wait to mount it on the new Desert Tech MDR that's coming out in mid 2015!
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Am I missing anything in pic-related? Seems like a pretty nice BCM rifle for a decent discount if I buy the upper and lower separate with free shipping as well...

>>33247665
>SWFA SS 1-4x24 right now

I have a gen 1 Viper PST 1-4 on another rifle right now and it's alright. Better glass than a friends' Steiner in the same price range. The Vipers are also dropping rapidly in price since the Gen 2's came out. Daylight washes out the illuminated reticle, but that seems to be a common thing among many similar scopes.

>>33247700
I have several Surefires and am a huge fan, but have several buddies who have had nothing but positive results with the streamlight.
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>have an a2 stock kit
>friend sold me an Anderson lower and threw in a free LPK
>want to build a cheep irons only gun
>figured I'd do a 20" A2 build
Is Del-ton my best bet? I'm not against building an upper since I have the tools and have done it before but I'd like to have my FSP pinned have it be a proper A2 height one as well.
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>>33247700
>I'm not paying $200+ for a light when the streamlight will do the same job for $100
Geissele rail, Geissele FCG, chinkshit alternatives to quality optics and lights because of a $100 difference?
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>>33247429
It's fine. Like another dude said, you'll wear some stuff out faster but it's nothing to really worry about. If your really worried, you could try an adjustable gas block to lower the amount of gas sent. Some people like a little over gassing for ammo that has weaker powder.
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>>33247710
>$316 for a complete BCM lower
Damn those prices have come down.

Looks like a good rifle at a good price though.
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>>33247781
Their new rollmark is a disaster and sales are sinking like a rock
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>>33247795

I'm out of the loop, what's their new roll mark or what was their old one
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>>33247746
More like $200 difference after I buy the remote when its included with the streamlight. Also the trigger is the poorfag Geissele from Brownells, got it for only $129 because of combined sales and gift card credit. I'll admit the rail was a quite the expenditure for me, I liked it too much to not get it.
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>>33247802
Shark has the old one. New one has a huge star in front of BCM otherwise it looks similar to the old version
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>>33247746
not him but i totally do that shit. i have a lot of expensive shit, even lower with a rollmark that makes it 2-3x price of another lower. surefire x400g being $400 while tlr-2g is $230? fuck yeah i'm going to streamlight on that
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>>33247817
At least streamlight is somewhat reliable
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>>33247813
>>33247802
I've seen 4 distinct ones. I believe the star was original, then the one I have with BCM and then the other two, don't know for sure though.
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>>33247832

Here's my next question. I live about 2 hours away from AIM but technically another state. Will they let me come pick it up, the lower is a long-arm, correct?
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>>33247817
>surefire x400g being $400 while tlr-2g is $230?
That's fucking dumb you should be using the X300 which is much more comparable and they can be found for as much if not less than the TLR-2
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>>33247837
Depends...I believe the lower can still be sold as a pistol if it isn't sold as part of a rifle and the 4473 is filled out by the FFL as such.

No idea if AIM will do pickups or not, would have to ask them.
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>>33247838
x400 and tlr2 are the ones with lasers
the x300's compatriot would be the tlr-1 which is $100-110, or roughly half of the x300
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>>33247837
That lower is a rifle lower so you should be able to buy across state lines.
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>>33247832
>>33247813
>>33247795
Take that back, the star is definitely the new one, especially looking at serial numbers. The first and third one in my pic were the earlier ones I guess.

Mine is a 6xxx serial so I know it wasn't among the originals.
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>>33247837
You can't buy a lower out of state without having it transferred to your state. Only long guns can be purchased across state lines, a receiver without a barrel, even if it's configured with a stock, is an "Other Firearm."
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>>33247817
>he wants lasers with his light
Oh wow carry on
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>>33247851
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>>33247860

I bought an upper too, can I have them snap the upper on the lower and sell it to me as a rifle, or I'm guessing they'd say that's some bullshit "manufacturing a new weapon", yeah?
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>>33247817
That's fucking gay.
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>>33247860
also this is a "rifle lower" - already has stock installed. Does that change anything?
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>>33247860
Stripped sold as other, complete sold as rifle? Or is a complete lower sold as other and then suddenly becomes a rifle once you snap an upper on? What does that do to ar pistols?
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>>33247875
Best way to find out is to fire an email off to AIM and see what they say. I'd lean towards the expectation of having to pick it up from your local FFL though.
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>>33247877
>>33247867
>>33247860
>>33247851
>>33247844
>>33247837
I love the ATF.
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>>33247837
>>33247844
>>33247851
>>33247863
>>33247860
>>33247875
>>33247877
Pic related.


ATF defines a rifle or long gun as having a barrel, so no matter what's attached to the lower, it's not a rifle without a (rifled) barrel.

>>33247867
That I don't know.

I would only guess (GUESS) that if they attached the upper to the lower, they would become the manufacturer and their ATF logbook would have to reflect that.

>>33247886
ATF is trash for real tho pic related to follow
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>>33247886
>>33247887
Pic related, no sense of humor
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>>33246463
Too bad. He was the only sane trippussy.
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>>33247890
Burt your handwriting is shit.
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>>33247887

Jesus Christ that is retarded. I could pick it up in two hours, but instead I'll have to wait several days because of their technicality bullshit. What do they think I am, an adult with patience?

I'm also almost positive the ATF would classify them putting the lower on the upper a "new firearm manufacture"
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>>33247887
Following that logic, you could buy a complete SR-15 or LMT defender or any other mfr that don't sell stripped lowers and turn them into pistols legally, which would overturn the "once a rifle alwats a rifle" that occurs once you attach a rifle stock

Disband ATF
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>>33247898
I blame the California education system and advent of consumer computer technology during my high school and college years.
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>>33247887

If a person works for an FFL, can they buy interstate? Asking for a friend...
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>>33247910
according to my ffl, yes, he can do that
i don't remember if he said he would have to send it to himself at his ffl address or not though
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oh and he probably has to BE the ffl, not just work for one
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>>33247918

I wonder if I'd have to bring an original copy or not. I do work for a company with an FFL. I'm sure they'd give me a copy, doubt they'd give me the original just for being an impatient toddler.
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>>33247908
Hey Burt, how come you didn't validate me? I'm a noguns anon that posted my AR(eventually) when you asked. HUH? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK MOTHERFUCKER?
>>33247398
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>>33247925

fuck, there that goes
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>>33247901
it doesn't matter if you can see the gun shop, if you're in a another state you're in another state

>>33247890
>i made a super obscurer joke on a professional form and it was a problem so they have no sense of humor

its a government agency they shouldn't have one

>>33247817
>comparing a x400g to a stream light

no fucking shit its going to be more expensive
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>>33247908
Honestly I can't write in cursive anymore. I'm so used to block upper case letters so you don't have an excuse for not being able to read my writing and instructions.
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>>33247933
i mean i'm just thinking of how my ffl said fuck it and sent me a copy of his ffl to send to another ffl instead of sending it direct

i could have run around going HAHA GIVE ME ALL THE GUNS if anyone with a copy could do it
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>>33247108
I've purchased maybe 10 times from Botach in the last year. Actually bought something on the 3rd of this month and received it yesterday. Never once did it even take more than a week and a half from order placed to received at my house and I've bought everything from gun parts and accessories to boots.
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>>33247930
Well, you took the wind out of my shitposting sails by validating yourself to my dismay, so I scurried away to answer more relevant questions.

If you don't avatarfag or tripfag, how'm I supposed to know you hasguns?

>>33247961
>I've purchased maybe 10 times from Botach in the last year.
Holy shit buy a lottery ticket QUICK
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>>33247117
Go piss another rock.
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>>33247968
I'd really rather not.

REALLY.
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>>33247966
>how'm
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On the subject of FFLs, I was planning to sell my Aero lower with KEK Shockwave notastock once I get my stamp for a different lower I registered. If I end up shipping it, what would be the best way to ensure ut gets transferred as other?

Would arg general just strip it and send receiver to FFL and parts to buyer separately? Maybe just take KEK notastock off to expose the pistol buffer and hope FFL isnt a retarded fudd?
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>>33247283
I have a BCM PNT trigger in my beater rifle. Superior all around to milspec triggers that i've done trigger jobs on. Only thing I dislike is the trigger itself is silver. Would have preferred black.
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>>33247978
have buyer verify with his planned ffl before purchase
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>>33247986
BCM Enhanced LPK is bretty gud, I wouldnt buy any other LPK if I were to build a new lower unless I were getting a Geissele or MBT right from the get go
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>>33247966
>If you don't avatarfag or tripfag, how'm I supposed to know you hasguns?
That's the point, you don't. I'm like an assassin in the thread. You'll go and have your superiority complex bragging about how a all anons are noguns then BLAM, you get hit and your shitposting powers get blown away like a vietnamese chink kid's feet after he steps on a landmine.

Bang motherfucker, you've been anon-ed!
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>>33247368
Welcome to cancer. Might as well start smoking if you don't already.
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>>33248001
>vietnamese chink kid's feet after he steps on a landmine.
i shouldn't laugh but i am anyway
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>>33247974
What'd you expect outta guy like'm?
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Rookie again.

Ammo.

Who and how much.

Go with 223 or use the 5.56? What is the benefit of either performance and cost wise.
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>>33248033
>>33248033
Wolf Gold
Sportsman Guide
10k rounds
Join the club for extra benefits
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>>33248020
Put it in you butt, duh
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>>33248040
Are you cia?
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>>33248047
no, and we're not developing rectal identification technology
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>>33248037
better off with targetsports unless you really want that club card
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>>33247972
That looks like a bunch of warts with chunks of crystal meth mixed in with it.
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this thread needs more dakka

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1489048297594.webm
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>>33248055
It's worth it if you're gonna order a lot, and I mean a lot. 2k Wolf Gold club price 29cpr free shipping.
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>>33248088
holy shit war is scary
>>
Tripfags think 4chan is their special club and make excuses like "anons don't contribute" to their shitty threads that shit up the front page while they post their same gay ARs over and over and over.

>your blog-tier pics are gay as fuck

>you don't contribute creative OC

>generals are cancer

>40% tripfags = cancer

>it's actually worse than ever

Go back to you team speak or whatever you nerds use and get the fuck off my /k/

>inb4 post AR
>inb4 /k/ always had tripfags
>inb4 "I'm an oldfag"
>inb4 """containment thread"""
>inb4 reporting me for spam again
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>>33248130
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1489048665190.webm
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Ok no but seriously, 5.56 or 223? There is a 35% price difference and it adds the fuck up.
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>>33247344
>>33247524
Is it worth getting a BCM BFH UPPER or BCM Standard upper? i see its a $90ish difference am i better off buying standard?
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>>33248170
>FAL

Didn't read
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>>33248214
If you're not at a level to stack hits on top of each other you're not going to notice the difference. Just get what ever is cheapest
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>>33248267
butthurt tripfag detected
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>>33248255
Spend the $90 man.
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>>33248170
>whatever you nerds use
>you nerds
>(you)
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>>33248255
if it's the same barrel type then get the BFH
the standard does offer some certain ones like ELW-F though
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>>33248400
>ELW-F
Garbage trash, throw it on the trash
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>>33248402
its okay the flutes make it baller as fuck
>>
What poorfag light to I get?
What slightly less poorfag light do I get
Pls only respond with something I can easily mount to an Mlok rail.
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>>33248400
>>33248299
https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-16.htm apparently this upper went through 30k+ rounds on a rifle "filthy 14" ??!
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>>33248439
NEEDS TO BE SINGLE OUTPUT

https://www.amazon.com/Arisaka-Ring-Light-Mount-M-Lok/dp/B00R3IAT1M

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F7J8LQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489054580&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=surefire+6px&dpPl=1&dpID=41Pmcf4J%2BGL&ref=plSrch
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>>33248447
While impressive, I seriously doubt anybody here will even come close to pulling 30k+ rounds through their rifle in its lifetime. Their might be the 0.5% that will but a vast majority will not. Again though, impressive and a testament to BCM's barrel turning abilities.
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>>33248501
>BCM's barrel turning abilities.
What? They're rebranded FN
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It's impossible to find a lower parts kit that doesn't come with grip, fcg, takedown and rotation pins, and safety selector. I want to find this for a new build, but I'm going to be changing all of those things so why waste the money. That or I buy every individual sepertate part, detent, spring, fuck, etc
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>>33248603
Of course it is, all that's left is barely a LPK. How much demand do you think there is for companies to create and stock a SKU of nothing but springs, detents, plungers, buffer stop and bolt catch?
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>>33248447
BCM is fucking gay for not selling their rifles with the option of a low profile gas block.
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>>33248565
Everyone assumes that because FN is one of the few companies capable of pushing out hammer forged barrels in bulk in the US still, but no one is certain. There are a handful of operations that could supply the amount of barrels a company like BCM needs.

Beyond that, not all barrels from the same mfg are equal. The same manufacturer can push out hammer forged barrels that vary pretty substantially in quality. The buyer stipulates the level of QA they require in their batches as well as any other specific needs. Those not making the cut get sold to lower bidders.

Your general point is absolutely right though, BCM is not making any of their own barrels.
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>>33247475
Which rail covers are these? Do they come in m-lok? Also, do you have a build breakdown? Beautiful raifu.
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>>33248615
You mean without a handguard?

Buy one with KMR, take it off and sell it to a faggot on arfcom, they'll buy anything as long as you price it reasonably.
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>>33248565
OK then FN's barrel making. I don't study BCM. Assumed they made their own shit.
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>>33247501
>all of it is affordable even for blue collar anons
dlet this
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>>33247475
I really love those slim-profile free float handgaurds that companies like BCM and MI offer, but I don't have my own goddamn shop or garage or the tools to even do it, and it makes me sad.
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>>33249067
Have your local gun plumber put it on for you.
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>>33249076
How much you think one would charge to install the handgaurd, and also maybe a brake and a rear QD mount?
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>>33249098
More than it'll cost to buy the tools and do it yourself.
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>>33249249
I live in a shithole apartment. Where the fuck am I going to mount a bench-vice? My kitchen? my bathroom?
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>>33249258
A 2' 2x10
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>>33249258
yes
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>>33249258
Buy a flat board, bolt it on, set it on the floor, put weights on board/have a friend stand on it while you crank the torque wrench.
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>>33249258
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Unless your going to get all the tools to do it, have the professional do it. If you mess it up with a ghetto workshop, it's on your dime to fix.
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>>33249417
It's pretty hard to mess up an ar build.
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>>33249434
Thinking even cosmetic damage from something slipping.

Not everyone considers that to be superfluous
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>>33249578
Can't learn from your mistakes if someone else does it.

Breaking an ear is a great way to learn.
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>>33248618
They're MI keymod panels - I'm pretty sure you can get them in MLOK.

Here's the breakdown:

Strike Industries J-Comp
BCM KMR-15
DD fixed front sight
VTAC light mount
Streamlight Polytac
MI keymod grip panels
550 paracord sling loops
BFG 2 point speedy sling
Aero Precision 16" pencil midlength barrel
CMMG low gas block
CMMG stainless gas tube
Aero Precision scout scope mount
Vortex Strike Eagle
Aero Precision upper receiver without FA
KAC USMC marked backup sight
BCM Mod4 charging handle
Magpul ASAP plate
S&W BCG
S&W M&P15 lower receiver
S&W milspec teigger
Magpul K2 grip
Seekins mag release
Seekins ambi short throw safety
Magpul Enhanced trigger guard
carbine buffer
carbine buffer spring
MFT Minimalist

I've changed the light since this but it's more or less the same.
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>local shop can BPW my upper for $30 and had another example of a Surefire FH he worked on on hand that looks fine
Noice, guess I know my plans for today.
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>>33249881
>building another incorrect clone
colt barrel for a1 when
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>>33249906
When you post an AR you own.
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you people need to kill yourselves
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>>33249881
Might as well have him install your ALG QMS while you're there. :^)
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>>33249922
ill post one when you have a single AR that isnt an abortion
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>>33249935
>>33249930
>>33249906
>Trips are the problem guys!
Anon I...
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>>33249965
It's the same two or three faggots every time to be fair. My guess is butthurt backlash from /akg/ or /gq/
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>>33249965
>daily gote blog posting
trips arent the problem, you are
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>>33249965
>implying we don't just take off our trip to shit on you
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>>33249974
>/akg/ or /gq/
whynotboth
>>33249980
>our trip
You'd have ARs to post if that were the case, but oh well. :^
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>>33249965
desu I'd spend the money on the SF4P if I were building a block II. Also, you really should just go with a SSA trigger instead of the QMS.

You managed to get a RIS II, so you might as well go all out on it.
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Sidearm edition when?
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>>33249994
>I'd spend the money on the SF4P if I were building a block II.
Hey man, take Psi up on that, he's the one with a SF3P BPW's on his clone.
> Also, you really should just go with a SSA trigger instead of the QMS.
Really no reason why.
>You managed to get a RIS II
For $50 niggaaaaa
>so you might as well go all out on it.
Your reasoning a shit. Buy me a $450 inferior MD famalam.
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>>33250006
that looks like fun
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>>33250006
We have one like three times a week fag.
>>33250010
$550*
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>>33250010
>following my lead
wew lad. ever wonder why I havent been posting my block ii lately
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>>33250010
>Really no reason why.
But that's wrong. I've had shitty mil-spec triggers, I've had a QMS, SSA, and MBT. Get the SSA.
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>>33250021
PEQ box and "shot out barrel" when.
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>>33250010
>Really no reason why
except for the SSA actually being clone correct and also being a substantially better trigger
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>>33250006

does that not have a rear sight, or is cleverly hiding behind the charging handle?
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>>33250024
> I've had shitty mil-spec triggers
Me too you fucking mong, that's why it's getting replaced with the QMS.
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>>33250031
I've had the QMS, the SSA, and the MBT... Get the fucking SSA you dip
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>>33250026
>except for the SSA actually being clone correct
>mil-spec triggers are not clone correct
The only thing better than seeing Psi break down and selling everything he owns so he start buying hilariously overpriced components to escape the BULLY is an ARless anon acting like he has any idea what is "clone correct" when he's just piggybacking on other tripbantz like a total prole. Sad!
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>>33250010
>inferior
You really don't get the point of clones. Sad!
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>>33250025
msd builds a correct clone whe
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>>33250039
Why are you so fucking dumb, go back to being anon, it's what you deserve you pile of trash.
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>>33250046
At least I got the point of rear BUIS out of the gate.
>>33250053
>yfw I'm more liable to get a Surefire FH556 long before you shoot out your barrel and get the SF3P replaced
Who are we kidding though, you'll pussy out and send it off to get replaced in a month most likely.
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>>33250045
>mil-spec triggers are not clone correct
non-ColtĀ® mil-spec triggers are not clone correct*
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>>33250057
I'm trying to help you make a good decision, dumbass.
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>>33250076
Someone with a B5 and not an OFFICIAL LMT BRAND LMT on his Block 1 build doesn't get to judge me. Go be anon again.
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>>33250045
>Psi break down and selling everything he owns
RIP Mk18
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>>33250096
Why do people like that stock so much?
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>>33250110
Because military contract, otherwise iunno, I'm sure as fuck not paying those kike prices.
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>>33250110
I don't get it either.
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>>33250096
It's still got a NSN. But here ya go, enjoy this CAR Type II stock.
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>>33250110
It's comfortable.
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>>33250132
>It's still got a NSN.
Bitchd out.
> CAR Type II stock
>enjoy
Pick one, M4 stock is dildos.
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>>33250029
It is most definetly missing, parts are surprisingly hard to find for these things.
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>>33250136
not compared to modern options
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>>33250143
It's superior to modern options. Have you ever used one?
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>>33250136
It's okay. Sure as fuck isn't worth $200 tbqh
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>>33250150
>>33250150
>>33250150
>>33250150
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>>33250148
Hence why some people get the B5 version. It's not $200.
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>>33250137
You sure are pissy this morning. LMT stock will be put on and the A2 will be swapped out with a NT4.

But both the A2 and B5 are issued. The SF3P is not and your buying an EOTech and cheaping out on your trigger. You've got no room to talk shit.
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>>33250147
Yes I own one. The butt pad angle is wrong and it's not tall enough to be used without hunching over,
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>>33250168
There are plenty of stocks just as "tall" as the B5/LMT sopmod that people use without issue. I think you're confusing "not good for my mutant physiology" with "not good."
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>>33250194
Straight butt pads are objectively inferior to angled. Is your shoulder flat?
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>>33246857
cheaperthandirt is a terrible place to buy. they overcharge like crazy
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>>33250236
t.poorfag
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