Listen up boys, we've got quite a few bills coming through attempting to attack your rights. BE SURE TO WRITE YOUR REPS
>Assault Weapons ban
>Bans "high cap" mags over 10rds
>Bans pretty much any semiauto rifle, even your .22
>Bans pretty much any modern semiauto pistol (except for revolvers? thanks Ocelot!)
>Requires liability insurance to PURCHASE/OWN firearms
>Hooray financial regulations
>Amends terminology regarding SBRs so citizens can now produce
Write your reps opposing the bad and the ugly , and be sure to write in favor of the good!
>Advocating for gun rights
>Not /k/ related
You're the cancer that's allowing the government to strip the people of their fundamental human rights. Fuck right back off to the brady campaign/every town you piece of annelid shit.
Hows it feel being anti-humans' rights?
OP here guys let's keep it on topic. Just make sure to write your reps and spread the info the many gun owners in WA state. The "assault" ban is very unlikely to pass as the house leader stated that no new gun bans would be passed without bipartisan support this year, BUT the liability insurance bill could very easily slip through.
Thank you for writing to share your thoughts on House Bill 2354 regarding the use of assault weapons and large capacity magazines. I am sworn and privileged to uphold the Constitution. However, I don’t believe that the Second Amendment disallows for reasonable regulation. Banning assault weapons and large capacity magazines can help create a safer environment for our citizens and children. I understand this will not eliminate the gun violence in our state, but I believe that it will help reduce crimes associated with firearms.
Thank you again for getting in touch! I appreciate hearing your perspective on this important issue. I hope that if you are in Olympia during session that you will stop by my office.
None of the antiregs really. The "Assault" ban is dick waving that is crazy as fuck. The liability one is sneaky, but is caught early and is coming in a huge wave of them, so likely the right wingers will go nuts.
Yeah they're just paying lip service to their constituents to say they tried, but still gotta nip it in the bud.
>Write your reps
I have to ask if anyone genuinely believes that does anything? I mean these people get at least hundreds of letters that they most definitely don't read, let alone take into consideration. And when it comes to influence, they sure as hell won't be getting any from a fucking letter in the mail, they will be getting it form mister big shot lobby man in a suit taking Mr. Rep out to dinner.
It does make a difference to a degree.
They won't read every word they get sent obviously, but they will at least know how much hot water they're getting into by support such legislation, so how much their job is at risk.
You do understand how this works right ? They hit you with a,few things and while you freak out about assault weapons bans they slip some other seemingly lesser shit (like liability insurance) and you thank them afterwards for not banning assault rifles.
They are coming for everything. I live WA 2 years
Literally what is said in the post.
HEADS UP GUYS HERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE SHIT LIST
HB 2354 - Assault Weapons and high capacity magazine ban. This one is the largest and most impactful to our 2A rights here in WA state. Your classic mega AWB ban that would make us like CA and NY. The good news is this exact same bill has been submitted the last 4 sessions and has gone nowhere. Doesn't keep them from continuing to try and means we need to continue to fight it!
HB 2374 - Statewide ammunition tax. This bill out impose a $.05 tax on every single round of loaded ammunition sold in WA state. They claim the money collected will be used to combat gun related violence. We all know all money will go into the general fund and be squandered like the rest.
HB 2460 - Carrying firearms in public places. This one is really scary and needs to be defeated! This bill would remove our right to open carry in WA state. It would also ban concealed carry in a number of places. We all know "gun free zones" are a joke and only give would be attacks easy targets. Well this bill would create several more. The City of Seattle has failed contumely to ban firearms in places like parks and now they have taken their battle statewide. This bill if passed would severally degrade our WA state constitutional rights.
HB 2372 - Destruction of firearms in police custody. This bill would allow firearms that have been seized or fortified to police to be destroyed. The catch is even if you are later found innocent in a court of law, your firearms could have already been destroyed by police.
HB 2738 - Concealed carry in another person's home. This bill would require anyone carrying a concealed firearm to obtain permission from the home owner before entering their home. To me this is silly and seems like complete common sense.
HB 1747 - Responsible storage of firearms. Under the guise of child safety they want any firearm in a home to be in a locked box at all times. They also want every firearm retailer to have available locked boxes and display a sign that says "you could be prosecuted if you don't lock up your firearms".
HB 1857 - Extreme risk protective orders. Yet another gun control bill carry over from 2015 session that did not go anywhere. Basically a family or household member could go to the police and file a protective order against you. The police would remove all your firearms and you would be prevented from buying any new ones. Obvisouly this leaves the door open for a lot of prejudice and human error.
SB 6165 - Short barrel rifles. Finally something good to support! This bill would amend the short barrel rifle law passed years ago to resolve the "manufacturing" issue that is currently blocking our ability to file ATF Form 1's. Please support!!!
Depends on how deep a woods you mean
But WA is very woodsy compared to most states
Do you go there often? Almost all of what was forest has been turned into condos and cookie cutter housing over the last three decades. The only trees that basically remain now are the ones between houses and on sidewalks. The kept just enough to make it appear like there is foliage.
>t. lived in King Co for 22 years.
what the fuck
why they keep trying to take my freedoms?
Should've replied to her with facts, only 300 people killed from rifles in a year, including hunting rifles; most murders don't even use 10 rounds so a ban would be completely ineffective in stopping actual murders; kids more likely to drown than they are being shot by a gun etc etc
Thank god I live in the based south, if they introduced an assault weapons ban and liability insurance in nc it would be shot down so fast it wouldn't be funny and the reps who introduced that bill would be voted the hell out
It is that time again! I will be sending out sign up sheets and waivers later this week. Keep in mind the basic rules of the meet.
1. no rapid fire
2. no drugs or alcohol anywhere near the range. you will be arrested I can promise.
3. no gun handling outside of the range. upon arrival, deposit your guns at the table where we will keep them in locked storage. My mom or aunt will be handling this, and my aunts state police boyfriend will be there as well.
4. when ready to shoot, check out a gun from the table. you will be allowed ammunition in 20 round increments depending on the wait.
5. mostly, have fun and enjoy fellowship.
6. bring food to share. i will be bringing smores supplies (choc, gram crackers, marshmellows)
. no rapid fire
>Why the fuck not, who the fuck does this hurt?
ever been to the kenmore range? only outdoor range near me and they have the dumbest fucking rules
Tommy Thyroid that sounds really cool what you guys are organizing. I don't have any guns because I am a broke college student. I've only fired a 9 mm Glock before, but I know gun safety, I'm not a total scrub. Would I still be able to come? If I bring food? lol
i'm a one issue voter, and the one issue is guns
i vote solid republican
(although bernie sanders doesn't seem that bad, i'm starting to hate the rich too now, since i am convinced they don't want people to own guns since they need to protect the fed and there massive inheritance)
well friendo theres already of a metric fuck load of CA fart sniffers up here. They've been steadily migrating for 30 years and the Seattle/Bellevue/Redmond boom isn't helping. WA is about to become the new North California.
Still come up! enjoy non abomination ARs, at least for a little while. And offset some of these San Franciscans
moving to states that have like a million population each
keep doing that
pretty soon you only got funs in like south fucking dakota
fight this shit in the courts and get active
most the people on the left who are voting for this shit are poor and want government aid; guns aren't an issue for them
get more politicians like bernie sanders in and kick out the bad apples on the left
I don't need to hear more bitching about how everyone is a much better driver in California, and how we don't have in-n-out like California, just shut the fuck up and stay down in your communist hellhole
he is a pro-gun socialist
you want the hand-out crowd to be pro-gun too
stop being a moron, or move to idaho with the god damn glaciers and 400k population
enjoy it while it lasts because you are too dumb to know politics and you keep sucking rush limbaugh dick
You guys are missing the point though. If you vote for Bernie Sanders over non gun issues you do realize he doesn't like guns. You are being exactly the people that vote in these anti gun pussies because of some unrelated issue
>moving to states that have like a million population each
>keep doing that
>pretty soon you only got funs in like south fucking dakota
all my wat
>fight this shit in the courts and get active
we can fight all we want but seattle votes for the state
he is anti gun
kek you are retarded.
I'd really like to stick to bodies of water, or real deserts (like Arizona)
Although I've heard nothing but good things about Montana
stay in your containment zone of 50 million mexicans
theres two outdoor spots within 50 minutes of everett that are better than ranges.
WCAN is OK but their memberships are gay as fuck. The other range up in marysville (IIRC) isnt that bad. Shot there a few times.
Hey faggot. Fellow califag, here. Do you know why the fuck people hate us?
It's because stupid fucking faggots like don't goddamn pay attention. Jesus fuck. Bernie Sanders? Bernie "I honey-mooned in Moscow" Sanders?
This is his record on guns: http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm
You stupid, fucking retard. I hope an AIDS infested pack of Stormniggers rapes your fucking mother and makes you watch. She deserves it for raising a low-information voting fucktard like you.
Its pretty good. I moved to cali for 10 years and then raged at the rediculous laws, came back to WA, back out in the sticks.
Now thise fuckers are turning WA into another california and its making me rage inside.
I fucking hate that place. They have the stupidest rules. First time there I brought a bolt action with me. They told me no more than one round in the magazine at any given time. I ask why? Slamfires? RO said yes, to which I replied "its just a bolt action, so I'll be fine". RO insisted that it still counted
>mfw runnaway gun with a bolt action
i grew up in Seattle and my parents are still there. There are still great parts I enjoy visiting. I'll just never live or work there again.
>when my old supervisor found out I owned a handgun his attitude completely changed. We would grab drinks and talk about everything. I felt I could go to him about anything.
its a fucking anchor
>HB 1747 - Responsible storage of firearms. Under the guise of child safety they want any firearm in a home to be in a locked box at all times. They also want every firearm retailer to have available locked boxes and display a sign that says "you could be prosecuted if you don't lock up your firearms".
Worth noting this is already covered by reckless endangerment.
You should buy one of his totally real custom made sheths
iktf bruh. i used to go there before i found the sultan spot. fuck shooting an AR one round in the mag. and they jacked up the price
what up m8, i just got back a few hours ago from shooting there. i went once when it was snowy a few weeks ago
Nice man. I've been shooting up at pilchuk lately. Its a little more easily accessed. You can pull your car right up to the pit and have all your shit right there instead of hiking back to your car like sultan.
I've been there, but I have a small car that doesn't do the mountain roads well
I've tried Everett sportsman's club a couple times but they are always closed. Their site doesn't seem to get updated much on when they'll be open. How do you get your info?
Daily reminder that Reynolds vs Sims is responsible for one or two large areas running their states by fiat.
Daily reminder that this 'grassroots' bullshit is being coordinated at a national level by the Democratic Party and that if you vote for the bastards you're voting for your own destruction.
>inb4 muh faggot rights
>inb4 muh weed
>inb4 student debt forgiveness
nice. I started a new job up north. first time I found out a coworker went to the range I was super secretive and quite when i talked about it.
>all the neighbor cube makes poke there heads up like ground hogs
>guns? guns? is someone talking about guns?
>the guy I was there to talk to shakes his head and says how every other conversation is about antiques, milsurp, competition shooting.
425. its better up here
>1. no fun
>2. leave my vent or ill have you bent
>3. i will lock your guns up for some reason also I'm 15
>4. check out your own gun and 20 round ammunition allowance
>5. hope you can have fun on your knees
>6. give me free stuff
this is satire right?
The nice thing about Oregon is that none of the police outside of the lib-quarantines of Portland and Eugene give one fuck about Commisar Kate Brown's gun legislation. We're still a very red state by volume.
wheres this one at?
b-but its paved
didnt know there was one in sultan. whats the name?
just google pilchuk trail head.
Its almost literally the exact same distance as sultan from your residence, just north.
Once you turn up the mountain for the trail, just keep driving for like 4 miles straight up until you see a really dark path thats surrounded by trees, you'll know it when you see it. The pit is right through there.
Not as big as sultan but way wider.
Its 90+yards in depth and perfect for skeet.
>425. its better up here
ayy me too
same can be said here
by the buzz in steak house? i went when they opened a while ago but i was noguns at the time
The dirt road I'm thinking of takes you up a mountain side then to an old bridge over an intermittent river. The bridge is blocked by boulders. My little fiat does the road very well except for a few spots where the pot holes are very deep and unavoidable. For this reason I avoid it. I'll have to check out that place out by sultan this weekend
Not a single person here likes you or gives a fuck about what you have to say.
yes its open, yes you can shoot there now, yes you WILL get ticketed as of late if you park there without a Discover Pass.
Its a bretty gud range.
Its easily accessible in the snow.
>Friendly Reminder: /k/ is a board devoted to 3 threads a day about a airshit fag shooting some other airshit fag in the back at an airshit course because some airshit fag burned an airshit patch. /k/ is devoted to furfag boy fucking faggots to jerk each other off and ask for each others kik names in a kik thread to send pictures of Trans sexual people.
Eat a fucking dick. This is weapon related you monkey cum rag. Now shut your cock holster.
i think the old bridge spot was closed down. this one is paved all the way. it can get busy during the weekends but weekdays its empty, i was there for ~4 hours today alone
yes its active, i was there today. pic related is it. park one the side of the road (there is a gravel parking lot) and walk to the range. no snow anymore
i lost my discover pass and have been up a lot with no ticket. im going to buy a new one though as i want to hike the trails farther down the road
1.Make your own thread
2. Rules are retarded
3. Bringing a cop to a /k/ meetup, 594? I know most cops won't enforce 594, but what's stopping your aunt's state police boyfriend from arresting people who want to try out another persons firearm? Or will you be enforcing 594 in which case please see 2.
4. Make your own thread
I agree those rules are retarded. The meetup I went to back in April was good, hell I even brought my SCAR 17s and I didn't get raped or murdered. It's a shame I missed out on the July meetup though.
If a cop tried to arrest someone purely on I-594 we could take it to court at get it thrown out or at the very least modified
It's not about making enforceable laws it's about restricting private citizens
Yup the only Asian guy at that meet. How you been man?
Who's this "we"? And can you say for sure "cops" won't arrest people for violating 594, aren't "cops" supposed to uphold the "law" isn't 594 a "law"? Are you forgetting this state is becoming more and more anti-gun due to the ignorant masses A.K.A the influx of Californians and Hipsters? I know most Washington State Police won't enforce 594, but can you tell me with 100% that they won't arrest someone over violating 594 and making example in court?
Representative dude wrote back with the snail mail.
Hypocrites. As expected. I knew you wouldn't have the balls to enforce your own rules.
>Do not post threads about gun control. They belong on /pol/.
>Our own rules
>Posted by some commie Brady campaign shill of a mod who allows dragon dildos, pony, furry and other general faggotry
>Shuts down threads very much related to weapons
I didn't make the "rule", I don't agree with it. Therefore I am NOT a hypocrite. And therefore, you can fuck right off.
Fantastic, legally gained my left arm back as well as my license just last month. Been riding my motorcycle like crazy rain or shine and probably shot like 5-6k ammo in the past month. Living life with one arm and no license as well for 4 months was difficult, other than that I've been peachy.
Hail ScarBro! We're heading back up to that spot this Saturday if you're interested
Victim of a workplace "accident". I settled out of court and received compensation. Can't say much more than that I signed a NDA. For some reason the douche bag of a doctor thought the extent of my injury required my license to be temporary suspended due to the prescribed pain medication and he reported my injury to the DOL. While I was in the hospital he was being a complete cunt the entire duration I was there for.
It really depends on the time you guys are going. I have physical therapy Saturday.
I haven't been to any meets. I'm new here. I'm from Snoqualmie. I'm a broke college student, but I'd love to get out to some of these meet ups. I don't have rifle experience but I've shot sidearms (9 mm's) a few times. Anyways I can't afford a gun of my yet, but if yall have me along I'll bring $$ to pay for the rounds I fire. Anyways let me know thanks
I set up in this canyon, farthest ive shot is 950 meters. The canyon does great to mitigate wind, but unfortunately too mich snow and they dont plow that road. So its a waiting game right now.
im in 425 and dont know anywhere past 200
thats cool, maybe one day ill make a trip out of it and find a spot
Heck, just hit up North 40 in Omak, grab a buncha tannerite, and head out on state land anywhere. Nothing but old burnt up sagebrush and hills... so it ends up being great for shooting distances. Perk of growing up out here I guess. Grab a small sandbag, mount bipod, and snag that ammo and pew pew pew! No one bats an eye except for the coasties that come over for cross country skiing.
thats a p long drive from where i am. i would be fine with 400m even. ive used tannerite at my range before, dont think anyone cared
>Off road verhicle
ahh, the road is paved all the way to my spot. next time i see the ranger ill have to ask him
Just wrote my district legislatures.
Keep up the good fight, anons.
It doesn't matter man, look at the demographics. If not today in 5 years. We are being replaced by people who most come here for gibsmedat and are dem block voters. We aren't going to be able to stop the flood of Asian s and Latinos who support gun control @70-80%
>There are paved roads in ORV areas
tanks for the info, ill definitely look into it
Im a californian, and I WANT to move up north into Washington, I loved it when i visited new years of 2014/15
I am totally pro gun libertarian. I want to escape California's cancer, believe me WAbro, you want me there, I hate the libby Cali fags more than you do.
bruh, have you watched any of the democratic debates? they all have like 30 min of Hillary bitching at Sanders for only having a like D- rating with the NRA and Bernie apologizing like a cuck and making promises he will do his best to get an F when he gets elected.
"There is no reason for someone to own an assault weapon" -Bernie Sanders
I was delusional too for awhile and really thought my dream candidate was running but every time I hear more about him I like him less.
They're stormfags. One of them tried to recruit me in a bar in Tacoma. I just got drunker and drunker and then started shit-talking everything he believed in.
You know where you belong, >>>/pol/
I know a lot of latinos who are against gun control. Especially 1st gen... they know what mexico ended up like. Its the liberal white and the black comminity who is voting for the liberal white that are fucking us anon.
Best of luck BTW. This'll be moved over eventually.
>The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men. Art. I, § 24 (enacted 1889).
That's what the Washington State Constitution says regarding the RKBA. So where's the class-action lawsuit?
I was written back in District 12. Dude is a bro, hand written letter saying he opposes anything that restricts gun rights.
Seems like everyone not in the Puget sound isn't a colossal faggot.
1. I'll fire as fast as I gotdamn feel like it.
2. No shit, dummy.
3. Come and get em, faggot.
>Disarming for anyone, much less a cop and shit heel pretend Kommando.
4. See number 3.
5. I get it now. This is a troll post. Your a troll trolling me. Congratulations, faggot. You get a reply.
6. See number 5.
This is the most retarded shit I have ever seen on this board, and I've seen some shit.
Holy fucking shit, what are they doing to the state? I'm supposed to be moving there in a year for work...but it's going to be like out of the pan into the fire, coming from Colorado.
What is Drews email?
Seems like a nice guy, and eager to actually listen to what people would have to say.
You had better have responded in one form or another. Thats a rep doing gods work (even if hes chasing a small bone atm).
Having an educated voice on the matter present in the room when the discussions are being made is the most important thing we can do to prevent supid laws from going into effect.
Somebody should tell your rep that the vast majority of failed background checks occur because somebody had the same last name or some such. Don't give the blue-state fascists any ammo to harass the law-abiding.
And don't let up. There is the entire rest of the menu of soft-totalitarian horseshit to deal with. Maybe you need another OC protest march, just to jostle the buggers a little.
You guys talking about Fish and Game? I've been going there for handgun shooting, but I hear the rifle range is a fucking draconian nightmare. I walk by it and only hear 3-4 shots per minute. WTF is happening in there?
Also, any suggestions re: places to shoot out east are always appreciated. I've shot a few times up in Sultan, but only 25 - 30 yards at most. I don't want to be impolite to any locals, so finding any spot at all that's confirmed decent would be great.
Here's the coordinates. (47°12'43.53"N 121°12'39.65"W)
We work pretty closely with Oregon kommamdos and have some joint meets in mind for later on. We are also willing to help set up other states with official meet up groups (if you're interested in starting something shoot us a email with your state and we'll add you to our meet up management site). Now I'm going to stop posting on here, its making me feel dirty to be back.
what sultan spot? this one is pretty far out and goes to ~110yds
Ehh, it was a logging road that went about 400ft elevation total. Probably 10 minutes outside of the Sultan downtown. It looked like people just brought there shotguns there from time to time... Definitely not a top-notch place to shoot. I doubt I could find it again, as I was with a few buddies who picked it.
Next one is kittitas county.
To try to make as little drive for everyone.
The average drive length is 3 hours from vancouver, spokane, and mt vernon.
Most kommandos are serious whiners when it comes to driving.
Awesome. I'm looking to get my first AR, and I don't feel like putting up with Renton Fish and Game's rifle rules. I've always been nervous about finding spots to shoot out in the woods, too. So it's nice to have an idea of 'acceptable' places to go.
is the shooting pits in ashford/elbe open? does it really look this shitty? i never been there before
yeah that kenmore range is straight shit. ive been out here a lot and have never had a problem with locals
Bummer, Seattle dorks afraid to drive south of I-90 again?
National forestland/other public or BLM land where it's not explicitly forbidden.
Here's the most relevant RCW.
Basically use common sense and be safe. Don't litter or dump garbage, use incendiary or explosive devices or cartridges, don't damage property or target shoot within 500 feet of improvements or structures. Don't shoot down or across roads, developed trails, or bodies of water.
Tinkham for example was closed to shooting after waders accused target shooters of firing over the streams.
That's fairly clean compared to how much waste I usually see in the shooting pits/areas.
Nah, we are just meeting near the middle of the majority's location. Basically if you contact us and know a good location we can move the spot to a more benifical area. It just happens that most of the guys we're in contact with are Seattle area and above.
Good to know. I'll read up on it more. No matter how many times I've gone out to shoot innawoods, I still feel like I'm sneaking around and trying not to call attention to myself.
I think I'm just too cautious and worried about attracting attention. Then again, that's the kind of mindset that I should have if I don't want spots to get shut down. I'd rather not feel like a criminal when I know I'm cautious, polite, and safe about firearms.
This is gonna get me to go and pick up that damn AR. I've been looking around for a basic Colt 6920 that I can use as a base for modifications. But Outdoor Emporium has a couple Daniel Defense that I might look at too.
I know I should build, but I think I'd rather get one, take it apart a few times, and learn more once I can get my hands on one.
This next meet is 70 miles from seattle.
Very center of the state.
Please see >>28696768
If you know good spots in that area, shoot the WA host an email, he'll be glad to check it out and possibly set a meet for there.
He's a pretty chill guy.
some drunk asshole was playing with his CCW at the Landing movie theatre and shot some lady. cops say he had a valid CCW license. lib fags have been going "yeah, a CCW license holder in a movie theatre really made that lady that got shot feel safe."
Understandable, I don't want to drive nearly to Ellensburg in order to shoot 30 yards myself.
It's kinda sad how intolerant the diversicrats are.
Sportco is fantastic even if they don't always have the best of prices, knowledgeable staff in the all the departments I've done business with. The membership is okay.
Doubt it. He'll get charged as he should, there will probably be some more media fear mongering/profiteering over it and Inslee will bemoan firearms as the bane of humanity. Movie theaters might post no gun zone signs to placate the supposed terrified masses the media reports for and everyone who already does will keep carrying inside those kill boxes anyway.
That's what Seattle thought when introduced the firearms and ammo sales tax. Constitution clearly states only the state has the power to tax those, but we still lost the appeal because the judges ruling over these issues don't give two shit about the state constitution.
If you're talking about the spots out past the Wilkeson school they fucking suck. There's a few decent places to shoot clays but no suitable backstop for anything else, and a couple places where you can shoot rifles/handguns at short range, maybe 25-35 yards but that's about it.
I still say Greenwater/FS70 is the best bet for both usability and ease of access unless there's something nice and long just on the east sides of 410 or I-90 passes.
>Bills that directly address weapons and their features/functions
>Not weapon related
You're telling me I have to associate with tinfoil fags that won't stop blabbing about Jews and Niggers in order to talk about gun control (a /k/ related topic)?
>Granite Falls bridge
this is were the meet was right?
>not bad but too many people.
yeah i only go during the week and im always alone. weekends gets to busy
nice, it was a little deep for me but it was a nice spot
I hereby propose that each state's /k/omrades establish a /k/ompound upon remote gubbmint land and communicate via HAM radio to the other /k/ompounds.
A single phrase will adorn the front gates
>"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Army cots and Mosins for all
I wish I could help you WA guys but I'm all the way in Texas where our politicians aren't literal cvcks.
Here, have this meme as compensation.