Ok so lets say some pedophiles flies around and films your kids like this.What alternatives do you have for defending against them?
The most obvious solution would just be to shoot it down but what other alternatives are there?
First you have normal helium balloons with a bunch of fishing line hanging down to the ground. Kinda like these things in ww2.
Building your own mini wasserfall with a proximity air burst could also be a possibility but ofc that would be very hard but it would theoretically be able to reach higher altituds then guns.
And then there are the electronic alternatives.
>And i imagine a couple of strong lasers would be able to damage the optics.
But what about microwaves?
What if you take like a ton old old microwaves, rip out the magnetron, hook them up some high power equipment like an arc welder and then connect them all together so they focus at one single point. Kinda like the archimides death ray in myth busters
How plausible are these ideas and what are your ideas? The last one would be pretty sweet if it worked. Fucker flies over your backyard, you fry it without them even knowing what happened.
I would go for the microwave gun, though you'll need to be within reach of a household power supply. It won't be very portable, but good enough for your backyard. I'm not sure how feasible it is to shield the electronics on a drone. To properly shield something, the shielding needs a connection to a ground, and I'm not sure the chassis of a drone provides enough of a "reservoir" for proper shielding. Static wicks can discharge built charges into the air, however.
Another idea might be to use a net gun.
Yes and no - the FCC will be pissed, but only because you're exceeding broadcast limits (pumping out way more power than you can do without a license).
Jammers are also illegal, although if you're firing guns into the air or destroying someone else's property while it's not over your land, you're committing a felony anyway.
Also a problem is the definition of 'personal airspace' doesn't exist and won't for a while. You shooting a drone down over your property us veiwed at best as shooting it down in a public park and at worst as destroying an actual airplane.
That is why we need something that is stealthy and doesn't go bang.
Use a really long stick with a net on the end. If you catch it, the worst thing that can happen is some guy comes to your house to ask for it back, letting you know who uses it. Best case scenario is they never find you, giving you a free drone to arm with handguns and stuff.
Japanese police just go full Kung-Pow on it
Hey if it works it works
#12 birdshot, pellets are so fucking microscopic they will cause borderline no damage past the drone.
Maybe in your shitty state or country.
No problem using them here.
Just buy one. The FCC isnt going to come breaking down your door.
Its great for pissing off neighbors without them knowing it's you. Also great for distracted drivers.
my law, having even the INTENT of the device being a jamming tool is against the law
they're illegal to use in public spaces, but on private property it's fine. if it extends to your neighbor's houses i'm sure someone could complain and you might find someone in a suit knocking on your door
Only the idiots who strapped their iphone to it really have onboard recordings. Everyone else either livestreams or remote-captures.
Or they're just fucking around and it doesn't even have a camera, because good cameras usually cost more than the mid-level drones.
My buddies transmits video feed to his smart phone, which is also where he controls it from.
If its coming in low like that, spray it with a hose. If the knocking it off balance doesn't drop it, the water damaging the electronics probably will. Theyre not very robust.
Someone flew one of those mall-tier micro copters through my open bedroom window this summer.
It died to a tennis racket.
The owner was all kinds of assblasted. Law enforcement was involved. He was originally charged with B&E but the charges were dropped.
yeah but usually transmission has shitty bandwidth, which is enough for control, but makes no sense to strap a 60FPS HD go-pro under it. Besides, you would get all kind of interference on those sweet vids if they all were made with transmitted data. This includes OP video as well.
I'm getting this. With a bolt down anchor for my truck.
True but think of collateral damage.
Water will cone out after a set distance, and since you are firing it up in the air at an angle there's an almost 0% chance anything not directly behind the drone will get anything besides a light sprinkle.
Basically you can fire it in a neighborhood with no fear of breaking anything besides the drone.
Honestly this is probably the best way to do it. You're not discharging a firearm in a populated neighborhood, it's way quieter than a gun, the round doesn't have too much power and tracing it back to you is hard when there's no powder or shell casing.
Another possibility could be a paintball marker or airshit gun if it's low enough to be legally creeping on your senpai.
>Is it similar to the military microwave weapon?
All kitchen microwaves work on the 2.4ghz standard, and output around several thousand kilowatts on this frequency (note that WiFi also uses 2.4ghz but at a millionth of the power). At 2.4ghz, the microwaves will be powerful enough to pass much farther into your body than a less-lethal military version operating on a lower frequency that is used to cause a heating/searing pain on the skin and nothing more.
A 2.4ghz microwave nigger-rigged into a weapon would actually hurt far far less than the Active Denial System, as most nerve endings are found inside the skin; the microwaves would simply penetrate through into your internal organs and muscle tissue and slowly cook you from the inside out, with relatively mild pain. Organ failure or internal bleeding could result after being exposed for more than a few seconds.
Note however that creating, testing, and firing such a device is extremely easy to track. Microwaves can take down cell towers, fry computers, and completely disrupt communications; if you build one and test it YOU WILL be caught, it is only a matter of time. People actually have contests over who can track down and find a microwave signal first, and there are plenty of FCC agents out there who sole job is to find nigger-rigged transmitters that are interrupting the communications and slap the motherfuckers responsible with federal felonies.
Jamming is illegal even if you somehow miraculously manage to do it without exceeding the legal limits. It's against the law to deliberately interfere with radio communications, period.
Just because you see a quadcopter or model airplane doesn't mean it's spying on you. Those that DO have cameras have very wide-angle lenses designed for panoramas and general situational awareness, not telescopic cameras designed for surveillance like military drones have. They would have to get VERY close in order to actually be able to see your naughty bits.
>tl;dr stop being paranoid you fucking rednecks
What about a brain drops shot cannon?
or starters, they grow up to 100 times their original size when immersed in water and glow in the dark when left in light!
They are designed for bouncing, throwing, smashing, spitting from a straw, and other delightfully immature activities we have yet to think of. Here are some more ideas:
Dry them out and reuse them (if you haven't smashed them!)
Launch them from da Vinci's Catapult
Hide them in your friends pockets
Fill a bathtub with them (but these probably shouldn't go down the drain!)
Make jewelry with them
Put them in someone's shoes
Drop them from great heights
Use them as marbles
Fill a flower vase
Put some in a bag and balance over a doorway for sneaky sabotage
Shoot down drones
12 gauge birdshot.
You could also be a shit and just buy a wireless jammer, but the FCC might get butthurt and you'll lose your own cell signal.
Also I think the drone might just stop moving and hover.
Except "return to its point of orgin" means it will return to the location at which it was armed and GPS communication is established. It would be a good way to get it away from you. The only quads this would work on is ones not equipped with GPS(cheaper models or 250 racers). It would not just land like it did in the video.
CO2 looses power exponentially during sustained fire thanks to the cooling effect of expanding gas.
Get a Green Gas rifle, use a propane tank with a fill nozzle, or better yet, nigger rig a grill tank to the rifle, you will NEED to lubricate the piston system liberally (silicone lube) prior to use and purge it (dry fire) to ensure the parts don't wear out
(Green gas is propane + silicone lube)
Depending on the guns gas system you will need to port the nozzle, or mess with the timing cam to increase velocity so you can compensate for the heavier BBs you will be using.
Purchase some metal airsoft bbs and get hunting.
>I used to fuck with airshit, and managed to get 600FPS with .3 bbs by modifying a crossman airsoft CO2 uzi pistol.
>By the time I clapped it out it was full auto, converted to propane, and lubricated with motor oil.
BTW the magazines usually house the gas port and the timing systems are behind the actuator/hammer in the weapons reciever
I live under an approach path to be a major commercial airport (20m) and military airfield (15m), and again within 10 miles of two smaller private airports.
I honestly can't say I'd notice a drone unless it was loud or low, the only things loud or unusual enough to perk my ears tend to be military aircraft flying unusually low to get under cloud cover.
How loud/whiny are drones on the dB scale a hundred meters up? Are they even perceptible over road noise?
>a hundred meters up
I assume you're talking about hobby/consumer-grade quadcopters? They're fairly quiet at that altitude, but they rarely fly that high and really can't make out individuals on the ground from that high up (hell, I can barely see people from 20 meters away with my FPV gear - that's why I fly with a spotter).
This is what an HD recording from a quadcopter at 100 meters looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMMqJf-rIc
Definitely not going to be able to "spy" on anyone effectively with this sort of equipment.
I used to launch rockets with my siblings from one of the local school's soccer fields and take aerial video from parachute so I'm not too concerned about being spied on, I've just never seen or noticed one in person. Granted that was early in the days of digital cameras.
That judge's decision is unlikely to be repeated - the drone operator had video footage and flight log data clearly pointing out that it was shot down high in the air and not over the hick's property, but she didn't even bother looking at the evidence.
>the drone operator had video footage and flight log data clearly pointing out that it was shot down high in the air and not over the hick's property
Possibly irrelevant, bear in mind I don't know the specific laws of that state, county, or city.
The fact that it was not over his property did not mean it was not being used to violate his privacy, recording minors no less.
Unless their property could psychically see into his property and they were recording from their own property or had the permission of the property owner whose land they were recording from, I really doubt they had the legal right to be doing what they were doing. Recording his private backyard from public roads without any property owner's permission would also not likely be legally permissible.
Also, the drone was only 60-70 yards in the air.
The judge's decision isn't really a shock from the privacy side of things but he's probably lucky he didn't eat a firearm discharge related charge.
I fucking hate drones so much
>a couple years ago
>with gf in this open field full of tall grass and bushes in chicago
>no one can see you unless theyre 4 ft away and know the paths well
>if you don't know where your going you might walk into a literal fucking shanty town, place was crawling with homeless
>used to go there and plow her after school ended cause both of us had crazy parents
>drone craze has just recently started
>really getting into it one day
>all of a sudden she pushed me off
>points up at the sky then covers her face in the blanket we were using
>one of the mother fucking drones
>its a small area, about 1-2 square miles and I know the paths well
>see where its going to land
>17 year old cockblocked rage mode
>sprint through the paths untill I am in the tall grass around a small 25 ft clearing
>see guy with remote and apple laptop standing there looking smug
>he reaches up to grab his drone out of the air
>before he can grab it tackle his exposed mid section
>his beanie flies off and I proceed to kick the shit out of him as he rolls around in gravel, and mud that covers the ground
>smash his 500 dollar drone ( this was when the trend first started so it might have been even more expensive )
>smash his apple computer
>go back to fucking him up
>oh fuck I shouldn't have done that
>get back to gf
>still seething with rage
>can't finish because too angry
>next day read in the newpaper that a civilian drone operater was accosted by a homeless man
>realize he mistook my tacticool garb for homelessness
At 60-70 yards I'm lucky if I can see an individual AT ALL with my FPV rig, let alone identify them (i.e. as male or female) or tell what they're doing. Furthermore, from what I read it sounds like the drone (along with it's recorded video) flew out of control onto the shooter's property before crashing, and the shooter never gave it back - NOR did he bring the video forward as evidence of the claimed "invasion of privacy." To me that says the motherfucker shot down his neighbor's toy (over his neighbor's property) for no reason at all, and should be made to be made to pay for any damages.
I'm not saying there aren't perverts out there that might *consider* using drones vor voyeurism or whatever, but they would be very unsuccessful at it given that you have to get very close indeed in order to see any sort of detail, and by that time they'd be well-aware of your presence. You might as well just bust into a women's restroom and climb under the privacy dividers, as "subtle" as these quadcopters are.
No, it isn't. It's even more empty than the term "assault weapon." At least "assault weapon" now has some (largely esoteric and fabricated) legal meaning, but "drone" is literally slang.
Looks like it was well under control until he shot it down after it entered his property after having lingered nearby for 30 seconds.
Also, the operator admits it was over his property, and it sounds like they've had issues in the past with drones but not between these specific parties.
This is not nearly as cool as it looks. It's a jammer. Any UAV that runs autonomously won't give a shit and will keep flying. For manually operated UAVs if the "can't connect" procedure is to hover then the faggot holding the RF gun has to keep pointing at it otherwise the UAV will just reconnect and keep going.
The media gave rc toys the name drone so we connect them with the variety used by the military. To compare them is ridiculous.
To the media putting a cheap camera on a toy is the same as having a black semi automatic rifle. They freak out
i REALLY want a civilian version of this one...
Its like $40k for the 'system'(molle launch platform, 2 drones, tablet and controller) back in 2013. If they made a consumer grade accessories pack with the drone WITHOUT the FLIR, i bet they could knock the price down significantly.
Bigger drones that can do more cost around $2000. If this consumer version was around $1500, id probably buy it.(Biggest reason i like it is the size and battery life[35 minutes]. It is capable of outdoor flight in normal weather with a range of over 2km.)
>and output around several thousand kilowatts on this frequency
Thank you for proving you have no clue what you're talking about. The average home microwave would never put out "several thousand watts", for fucks sakes the outlets they plug in to are generally only 15A max derated to 12A because of NFPA 70, so the most they're going to draw is 1.4kW. The magnetrons put out so much heat they have to be actively cooled, so its pretty fair to say they're inefficient as fuck, and actual output is going to be around 1kW. No where near "several thousand watts"
>I dont know what the inverse square law is
>Still powerful enough to cause severe bodily harm to un-shielded body tissues, especially your eyes, with in a few meters.
So basically only to the guy retarded enough to try to use it as a weapon?
>as you can see it's AR15 based technology
>tracking means you are always at least 1 move behind
>there are actually people on this thread claiming that "drone" is an invention of the liberal media
the word has been used for remote-controlled aircraft since at least the 1950's.
google it and quit making an ass of yourself.
While I think the social hysteria about drones spying on my chilluns is hogwash for a variety of reasons, but thier is no doubt drone area denial is going to be a thing for everything from military bases to celebrity weddings.
I think the nips got it right. Shooting drones down with birdshot is fine at close ranges, but has limited range and can't be done in populated areas. Jamming might stop some drones. But many have a return home function, and a hostile drone could be programed with a course that needed no external input.
Not to get Southparky, but the only surefire way is some kind of interceptor drone.
You can get cheap toy drones and use them as kamakazis. At least you could force it to land and then disable it with a baseball bat. But honestly I'd rather follow it back to it's owners house. AA is effective but a full scale home invasion will removed the threat.
>the word has been used for remote-controlled aircraft since at least the 1950's.
Irrelevant, the USAF has officially changed terminology more than a decade ago. They asked the media to use their new term and the media rejected their request. So yes the fact that the term "drone" is still used is their fault.
>hurr a word was used to mean this in the past therefore it still means that today durr
You are retarded. Go on, find me a single official government document that uses the word drone. Protip: you can't because it has always been slang, and slang by definition always has a loose definition. Either way you look at it, the media is solely responsible for the widespread use of the term drone in modern times. To seriously deny this makes you delusional.
> people use this word to describe an object and everyone knows what your referring to when the use it
> the USAF asked the media.
Lol wut? what media specifically? Not the anon your arguing with buy you really sound like a prick. And technically yes, your neices airhog is a Unmanned Airborne Vehicle. UAV.
ITT: People spouting bullshit on things that they know nothing about
I don't even care if you're for or against drones, your stupidity knows no borders.
That picture didn't address the governments ability to sway public opinion through mass media propaganda. They're pretty good at it, it doesn't help that Americans are stupid to boot.
PETA used drones to spy on my deer farm.
I complained to the police, wrote PETA ( never received an answer to my registered letters), went to court for a restraining order (PETA sent a $500 an hour lawyer) and all I got was you have to catch then in the act.
Ok. I did some reading on Great War anti aircraft systems and learnt a lot about ways to damage a low and slow aircraft with out radar or missiles.
I put up some barrage balloons. Not to do any damage but yo channel the drones into a kill zone.
I got the highest powered laser pointer I could get with out fed permission and did some shot she'll reloading.
I made little bolos using 000 sinkers and fishing line. The first set had different lengths of line and I tested them on news paper hanging in a frame.
I found that three sinkers connected in a triangle, not a star, with ten inches of ten lb line gave me a decent chance of a hit at fifty yards.
I waited till the next collage brake when the PETA foot soldiers would have time for shenanigans.
In full 3D camo I waited in my kill zone.
Two days in I hear the buss of a multi rotor drone. It buzzed around for half an hour than hit a line from a barrage balloon and crashed well inside my property line.
I quickly found it in the field but did not touch it or go near it. I just opens some gates and sent forty deer into a one acre field and let in the dogs. It was soon trampled into the ground and I opens the gates again.
The next day a lawyer turned up and said that he represented some one who may have lost some expensive survey equipment near my land and he wanted me to allow a search team access to look for it.
I said no but if he could provide a description along with serial numbers I will keep an eye out for it and let him know if I see it.
Lawyer left and I never heard back from him.
Another day passes, the deer are looking after themselves as usual and I'm back in my kill zone reading a book.
I hear the buzz of another drone.
this drone spends more time just flying around, looking for a way through the balloons I guess.
I finally see the drone as it enters the kill zone, a big six rotor job with spidery legs and a go pro hanging underneath.
I wait till it look like it is facing away from me and give it two rounds of home made bolo shot.
The first one hits and the drone tumbles down.
I go back to reading and wait to see what happens.
Another drone buzzes in, this one is a bit smaller and has four rotors.
It flies into the kill zone and as before I take a shot.
I pack up and head back to the shed to get the slasher hooked up to the tractor and slash the calf high grass in the kill zone.
Being a not too smart manual labour, I was not paying attention and dort of ran over the drones with the slasher.
I'm now waiting for the next collage brake to see what they do next.
Couldn't be bothered.
It is hard enough keeping in the black selling venison and hides. I don't have the cash for lawyers.
I do have a nice reloading bench and time to just sit in a field and read.
There people are ruining an entire hobby. As a serious RC plane hobbyist, the shit I am having to do now to ensure I don't break the law for flying a remote plane is crazy. I might just switch to something completely different at this point. No reason I should be punished for the actions of these people.
Imagine the assfucking that would happen to the first grunt that loses one of those.
IF you're just looking to keep drones from spying on you, instead of attempting to damage/destroy the drone, would it be possible to simply blind the optics with some sort of laser or focused natural light?
There are several options at your disposal.
Industrial grade laser
Giant Tesla coil