>Cop asks "Is this gun registered to you?"
>OK maybe it was just that cop
>Keeps happening episode after episode
Why are LEOs so stupid?
Because they're LEOs.
During my time in the Miami-Dade PD I found out that nobody cares about serving the community. Everyone was trying to be a wannabe operator and mobile oppression force. I couldn't last 2 years with the blatant corruption.
>Notice almost every episode the camera man seems to be able to keep pace with the perp while you hear the cop panting and wheezing in the background.
>Camera has to be a weighty item.
>Have to assume the guy is also wearing a vest.
>Yet, he is keeping pace the whole time.
>Am I being detained
>>>>"h-have a nice d-day citizen"
That's the shit they don't show you of course it's the fucking morons (read:Niggers) who don't know any better that will be shown to make good TV all the while propagating myths to trick people into gun-controlling themselves without having to legislate or executive action stuff into existence. Close the gun show loophole if everybody is afraid of it and doesn't really know what it is, for the cost of a few years of Cops reruns
The only good shows in thr 90s
The most accurate portrayals of the average lower class families
>>Officer: "This is the worst gun ever."
>He's not wrong
Hi-points, while pretty shitty, are at the top of the SNS market.
Where things get really awful is when you start looking at the 'ring of fire' guns.
>Cop asks "Is this gun registered to you?"
>OK maybe it was just that cop
>Keeps happening episode after episode
LEO here. I can answer that.
We have standard questions for every procedure. Think of it like a giant flow chart and we are required by law to ask. And we have to keep asking until we get a yes or no until we move onto the next.
I hate having to ask the same question 5 fucking times, but I have to.
Will gladly post a few stories.
I like the ones where they're chasing a guy and finally pin him down and are cuffing him, then the girl cops finally catch up to the group and start yelling at the suspect (or whatever the term for that is) and running back and forth around the area like a puppy barking at something that's not supposed to be there.
Stories please anon.
Thats basically police world wide, im doing my stint as victoria (australia) highway patrol
Yeah feels great pulling over and fining someone for doing 3kmph over the speed limit because apparently all speed kills
Other cops actually love it
I can not be bothered to check through each state's laws, so I will concede that you may be correct. If you are so inclined you can do so here.
The system prevents you from being a good cop.
You aren't a good cop if you're enforcing bad laws.
Whether you're fining a kid hundreds of dollars for riding a bike without a helmet or sending an old lady to jail for owning a gun to defend herself, you are part of the problem.
>It's bad cops.
And bad departments with bad people running them. The sheriff in my old county is a legit coke head, his son is a dealer, half the dept is related to him, they are tacticooled to hell but barely paid versus a real dept like in miami-dade, and they shoot dogs as little as a chihuahua.
The problem there is that old fucking cunts who do zero research keep voting him in because he shakes their hands and smiles real nice. But that isn't why it happens in other places.
Well actually, in my experiences the cops don't do enough to prevent actual crimes.
I once called the police because my frail father was being assaulted, and they didn't even show up.
We were told that nothing went wrong, their system just merges nearby callouts together.
But I'm sure you'll only stop actual violent crimes, right?
Even though your job requires you to enforce bad laws and continue the problem every single day, you'll somehow be different.
You are the problem.
You will always be the problem.
Every bad cop on the planet thinks that they're that rare, elusive "good cop".
You are aware that career shitbirds often have the cocksucking goodolboy system locked down right?
The biggest restaurateur in that area was fucking the health inspector too. I know a waitress who tried to report the health violations to someone over their head, the complaint got kicked back down to the shitbird and waitress was harassed till she "quit" her job. That was just a restaurant.
It's all well and good to say it's honorable to lie on the wire for your unit to advance, but who wants to be the one getting bumfucked by the local cops for trying to fix something that may well not get fixed anyway. We need more people to finally say they've had enough.
You would be surprised what you can get people to admit to.
Oh I know. But it's all about what we can prove during conviction. Within the first 10 seconds of a traffic stop I already know if it's going to be good or bad
We have a female like that.
> Get a call over the radio about a crazed naked man
> oh fuck
> I arrive on seen with my fellow officers already trying to place him in cuffs
> I help hold his arm as he struggles
> dude is strong
> he is screaming "GOD GIVE ME STRENGHT! I HAVE THE POWER!
> he is trying to break out of the cuffs by ripping the links
> after he is put in the back of my cruiser(because I was the closest) I get the scope
> man is deranged and on a mix of Four Loko's, meth, and PCP
> he is constantly quoting the bible.
> then he kicks out my window with his feet
> he some how manages to get out and runs away again still cuffed
> THANK YOU GOD! PRAISE JESUS!
> he sprints away still in cuffs
> tackle him a block away
> put him back in the cruiser
> spend the rest of my shift questioning my existence and God as to why he would help that druggy.
It literally does not matter so long as he's enforcing the same laws.
One day it'll hit you.
You'll realise that you're just another useless cog in the machine, and that by actively being a part of it you're contributing to the problem regardless of your intentions.
Until then, enjoy beating people up, shooting their dogs and lying in court while telling yourself that you're just doing it "to help the community".
idk, maybe it is because the state rep in that area in but buddies with the sheriff. People have tried to report stuff before, and they usually just end up harassed by cops until they move.
I'm not trying to be a negative nancy, but the guy's been going strong for 20 years, even after his coke use was exposed, even after his son dealing was exposed. It's nuts.
>In many states/municipalities,
There are like four or five states with handgun registries, and they're all shithole coastal states where legal gun ownership is almost nonexistent, so it's already a non-starter.
>be in a free state
>all handguns can be purchased by any law abiding citizen over 21
>all handguns are unregistered
>license required only for carry, and in some states never
Why haven't you moved yet, anon?
So let's say you find someone with a few oz of weed.
What are you going to do?
Arrest him or let him go?
If you say the former, then you're part of the problem - jailing people for victimless crimes.
If you say the latter, then you'll lose your job.
Policing and morality are mutually exclusive.
>Yes I'm sure they are not doing anything about assaults or thefts or murders, they're just enforcing laws to meet ticket quotas
In some areas that's literally what is happening.
In places like Detroit and Flint upwards of 90% of homicides go unsolved, and cops routinely show up to emergency calls thirty minutes later, or not at all.
But for some reason there's never a shortage of patrol cops doing speed traps in rich suburbs.
Funny how that works.
I did, back in July. Just pointing out that there are shitty states out there. I'm sure a lot of these videos are taken in NY/NJ/CA and other shit states with large minority populations.
>In places like Detroit and Flint upwards of 90% of homicides go unsolved, and cops routinely show up to emergency calls thirty minutes later, or not at all.
>But for some reason there's never a shortage of patrol cops doing speed traps in rich suburbs.
Yeah, but once cops show up in the high crime parts of Detroit and Flint and doing patrols they'll get attacked for targeting blacks.
>cops stay away from problem areas
"They don't care"
>cops patrol problem areas
"Cops are racist"
You say all that like you are some how helping your community more than that cop, or any first responder.
I'm helping the community more than cops in that I'm not actively harming it.
If there's no victim, there should be no crime.
The same is true regardless of your individual prejudices.
>da chilluns are overdosing on as little as ONE WEED COOKIE
>NOT ONE MORE CHILLUN!
This is a real news report after CO legalized it. Fuck human beings who want to tell me what I'm allowed do with myself.
> doing paperwork and sitting on the edge of town along the highway
> acting as a speeding deterrent(fyi, we do this a lot, State Troopers especially)
> occasionally glance up at passing cars
> look up at the silver Buick
> inside looks really cloudy
> yep stoners
> hit red and blues
> stop them and they roll down the window
> oh yeah, they were smoking.
> driver and passengers are surprisingly cooperative
> "How much weed do you have?"
> "Well we smoked like most of it, I think like 2 grams left?"
> "Who's pipe?"
> Guy in the passenger seat.
> search there car and find nothing else
> confiscate the pipe and weed
> write out a ticket and a court summons
> our laws are unique, instead of jail for weed possession, it's a confiscation and a misdemeanor $100 fine per gram with a max of 27 grams
> or it's a felony distribution charge
> kids are relieved when they discover they are not going to jail
Okay, tell me who the victim is if I:
>Ride a pushbike without a helmet
>Have a backyard paddling pool with 31cm of water
>Own an unregistered gun
>Marry a man
>Willingly work for less than the award rate
>Sell alcohol without a license
>Buy a beer after "lockout"
>Play an uncensored version of Left 4 Dead
I could go on almost indefinitely.
If there's no victim, there's no crime.
The concept of "collective victimhood" is a complete falsehood invented by the likes of fascists and communists.
If I am harming nobody else, you have absolutely no right to tell me what to do with my money and my body.
Because the number of drug dealers in your area has no correlation whatsoever with the amount of violent crime in your area
Because the large-scale suppliers/distributors of drugs are not cartels, terrorist organizations like FARC, or fucking North Korea (they're a major producer of meth, look it up)
I say this as someone in favor of deregulation of marijuana. Assuming it actually ever becomes legal nationwide and legitimate businesses displace organized crime, using it will indeed have no victims other than yourself. Until then, anyone who pretends that no one is being hurt when they buy drugs for recreational use is either disingenuous or fucking delusional.
>Because the number of drug dealers in your area has no correlation whatsoever with the amount of violent crime in your area
For starters, that is absolutely and entirely because of the illegality of drugs - not because of the drugs themselves. Johnson and Johnson aren't getting into turf wars with Pfizer.
Secondarily, we already have laws against violence. I'm specifically referring to the drugs.
You can't just ban something because it's associated with something else that's already illegal.
If I buy a hamburger from you and then you use that money to pay for an assassin, I'm not contributing to your crime and I am in no way responsible.
The same is true of everything.
Buying, selling and taking drugs are all victimless crimes.
>tell me who the victim is
People like you are all the same. You only care about yourself and while you may speak of not harming anyone else we both know that's true only if you think you'll get caught.
If you lack the moral character to follow simple basic laws why should we trust you to follow major ones?
Because it is illegal is what makes it profitable, is what makes it attractive to unsavory idiots.
If we made chocolate/candy illegal and cracked down on it like the war on drugs, you better believe that there'd be violent crime associated with it from then on.
This is an issue for the citizens to go after in rallies and votes though.
Society as a whole is a victim?
What were you saying about being a "good cop" again?
Because now you're admitting to literally being a fascist claiming collective victimhood and (I presume) collective responsibility for crimes.
>Because the number of drug dealers in your area has no correlation whatsoever with the amount of violent crime in your area
There was tons of gang violence between rum runners during prohibition. Guess what happened when prohibition ended?
>Because the large-scale suppliers/distributors of drugs are not cartels, terrorist organizations like FARC, or fucking North Korea (they're a major producer of meth, look it up)
Radical anarchist and communist groups played a major role in illicit alcohol production during prohibition. It was a major revenue source that, for obvious reasons, couldn't be traced. Guess what happened when prohibition ended?
Both of these phenomena that you are citing as a justification for banning drugs exist SOLELY BECAUSE DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL.
I don't understand why you people have such a hard time grasping this.
Pretty sure all the meth used in my area is made in my area.
There was a meth house busted in a nice neighborhood I know of. Was run by two EMTs. Another was run by the person who ran the most successful local custom AR shop.
Get off my dick with that north korea boogeyman shit. Even if it is/were/ true, there'd be 0 dollars going to those norks if it was legal to make buy and sell here.
Shit, it'd be safer too. Licensed chemists, guaranteed purity, quality labs.
>Johnson and Johnson aren't getting into turf wars with Pfizer.
Except they are, they just don't need to use petty violence to fight their wars.
I find it ironic that people like you who are undoubtedly aware of the concept of regulatory capture, never stop and realize that these "legitimate businesses" are every bit as willing to commit violence as their illegitimate equivalents but since they have the force monopoly of the state behind them effective resistance from those outside the captured system is impossible.
If anything we became a mecca for stoners now. Because if they get busted, oh well they are not going to jail. It's great that I don't have to write up a 10 page report on every bust.
The majority of our offenders are first timers.
If wearing a helmet burns your ass SO MUCH that you think it invalidates the very concept of the judicial system, this is clearly less about helmets and more about the unwillingness to recognize outside authority.
In my experience people who only recognize the authority of themselves seldom respect the property and lives of others.
wew lads, don't get to wrapped up in arguing with some likely troll who is spouting "tow the line, pick up that can" type drivel while refusing to see any validity in opposing points even if he doesn't agree.
tl;dr obvious troll is obvious >>28563427
>ride a pushbike without a helmet
If you have an accident without one and don't die, other people will be subsidizing your medical bills for the rest of your life, all because you couldn't pay $20 for a helmet.
>Willingly work for less than the award rate
Undercutting helps business but screws over labor. It is the main reason why many previously decent jobs are now the sole domain of illegals--because they pay too little to actually live on now unless you are willing to be the modern equivalent of a sharecropper.
>Sell alcohol without a license
Money from liquor licenses is used to bankroll the public services of your state. Furthermore, a system of licensing makes it easier to prosecute someone selling adulterated products.
I'm asking how busting those kids as you described made your area a genuinely better place. That's why I wanted to became an MP and a LEO later, I wanted to actually make thing better for the people around me.
I found it hard as fuck to do, mostly because my superiors were only concerned with politics, later careers, or an easy ride into retirement.
>Guess what happened when prohibition ended?
The more enterprising of them went "legitimate" and used the threat of overwhelming violence from the state to drive their rivals out of business.
The violence didn't stop, one side just gained an overwhelming force advantage over the other and "won". The ironic part is I bet you complain about how the ATF will bust down your door for alcohol production without a permit without seeing the connection.
You're the one advocating for the use of force against people not wearing helmets.
Seems like you care about it a lot more than I do, friendo.
And I thought it'd be clear by now that my entire concept of rights stems from property rights. So yeah, I do respect the property and lives of others.
Meanwhile, you're so respectful of our lives and properties that you'll kill and steal from us in order to further your ideologies.
If you provide financial or social support to the creator, then yes - there is a victim.
If you don't contribute to the creation of it in any sense, then no - it's a victimless crime.
Why child porn in particular though? Are you a filthy pedo?
>other people will be subsidizing your medical bills
So then surely this should be expanded to every potentially dangerous activity.
>Eating junk food? Banned.
>Playing rugby? Banned.
>Having sex? Banned.
>Not exercising enough? Banned.
The entire point of a universal healthcare system is that it's for everybody - not just the people whose lifestyles you approve of.
>Undercutting helps business but screws over labor
So wait... The victim is myself? Are you seriously implying that I should press charges against myself for voluntarily doing something?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>a system of licensing makes it easier to prosecute someone selling adulterated products
So then everything should be licensed.
Why don't you need a biscuit license to sell Tim Tams?
>I'm a good cop, I care about the community!
>Now pick up that can, civilian.
Kek, so true. Every fucking time.
If it is a definite hazard, then the law is still fucked because they were allowed to continue on.
I personally believe that weed is not the same thing as alcohol when it comes to driving, but there definitely is a point at which it isn't safe.
Tests should be created to measure for this like we do with breathalyzers.
OR, what I prefer, a quality field sobriety test.
>You're the one advocating for the use of force against people not wearing helmets.
actually no I'm the one advocating that if their local government puts into place an ordinance demanding they pay a fine, they should pay the fine, and if they don't like it they should lobby to get said ordinance withdrawn.
> So yeah, I do respect the property and lives of others.
Oh, I'm sure.
>people will be subsidizing your medical bills for the rest of your life
Man I got fucked up fierce overseas, and even the guaranteed medical benefits really aren't inclusive at all. Unless I decide to make complaining to the VA my second job.
>they should pay the fine
Meaning you want to steal from them under threat of violence.
But at least they didn't go out and ride their bike!
Otherwise they'd be literally assaulting the entire planet!
>The violence didn't stop,
I can't seem to recall hearing about Budweiser sending death squads into Miller headquarters during a board meeting, but by all means feel free to post some examples off such scenarios.
> The ironic part is I bet you complain about how the ATF will bust down your door for alcohol production without a permit without seeing the connection.
Careful with a strawman that big, it can be a fire hazard.
>There was tons of gang violence between rum runners during prohibition. Guess what happened when prohibition ended?
They started selling drugs instead while continuing to collect revenues from racketeering, extortion, gambling, and prostitution. I hope you aren't one of those idiots somehow equating the artificial rise in "crime" rates during Prohibition (the 1920s equivalent of the War on Drugs fetish for throwing people in jail for possession) with the rise of organized crime, which had already been a powerful force in American cities/politics for decades.
>Radical anarchist and communist groups played a major role in illicit alcohol production during prohibition. It was a major revenue source that, for obvious reasons, couldn't be traced. Guess what happened when prohibition ended?
A fine example of a spurious relationship. The decline of both domestic anarchism and communism during the 20th century had more to do with the New Deal and official recognition of labor's right to organize stealing their platforms out from under them combined with active suppression of hardliners and the restriction of immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe than with them not being able to sell booze anymore.
>can't seem to recall hearing about Budweiser sending death squads into Miller headquarters during a board meeting
That would be a really cool near-future violency cyberpunky plot for a movie though.
>steal from them under threat of violence
Your hyperbole is cute but neatly avoids the actual facts.
If you consider paying a fine to be theft, then clearly you consider arbitration to be tyrannical as well.
So Mr. "I respect my fellow man and his property", if your neighbor brings suit against you, and the court rules against you and demands that you pay your neighbor financial restitution for damages, is that theft under the threat of violence as well?
>Taking a police studies course
>Like 90% of the students look like the kind of folk who bullied the nerds in high school
>Only one guy I knew in there who was both physically fit and a genuinely nice guy
>Anyone else I knew who seemed even somewhat decent or intelligent dropped the class or decided to go into another field once they were done
Good god, I don't even want to imagine what the actual department is like, I think I'm just gonna go with a job in retail.
breathalyzers are lie detector test tier m8. all it shows is the amount of alcohol metabolized into someone's blood (unless they have acid reflux, heartburn, the machine wasn't properly cleaned, the machine wasn't properly calibrated, etc.) not intoxication.
Anyone who is an alcohol can have double or more the limit and bacs past the "a 16 year old girl would be dead from this" level and be more functional than someone who is lower than the arbitrary BaC standard, which protip used to be .015 until they realized they could make more revenue if "drunk" was 2 beers in an hour.
examine his weed story
>pulled over for smoking, not for signs of impaired driving
pretty much every weed/alcohol/drug stop is the result of some bullshit like speeding, improper lights, rolling stops, etc. if the ~1 in 6 americans who will get a DUI charge in thier driving career were PSA swerving through traffic at 90 they'd be one of the 10k alcohol related auto deaths, not sitting in court 2 years later because they ran a yellow in front of a cop looking to pad his ticket quota.
The whole system is about money, not community safety.
>can't seem to recall hearing about Budweiser sending death squads into Miller headquarters during a board meeting,
They don't need to dumbass that's the whole point.
They do however operate under negotiated terms and if those terms are violated then yes the death squads a.k.a. the very police people are bitching about in this thread do in fact show up.
When you consume child pornography, you are encouraging the creation of more of it, which leads to children being abused.
When you consume drugs, you are encouraging the creation of more of it, which gives money to organized crime.
Once again, the people who say drug use is victimless are only correct if drug use is made legal. In the current situation, they are financing the murder/oppression of others because they're fucking hedonistic pieces of shit.
What the fuck are you even trying to say? You have completely failed at leveling a coherent argument.
You claimed that the violence continued, but then you turn around and acknowledge that it didn't, but only because, as you are claiming in this post, they didn't need to.
Make up your fucking mind.
No, I was pretty clear - if you encourage the creation of more of it, it's not a victimless crime.
If someone posts some CP on /b/ and you download it, you aren't harming anybody - because the creator doesn't even know you exist.
>which gives money to organized crime.
Because it's illegal. That's the part you keep conveniently sidestepping.
If it were legal, and the drugs were being produce by established pharmaceutical companies, their would be no flow of money to organized crime.
You are foaming at the mouth about a problem that you created.
you aren't that good at the whole reading comprehension thing, are you?
>if you undercut us or fuck us over we'll kill you
>if you undercut us or fuck us over the ATF will kill/imprison you for us
Even you admit though that the same people went into drugs. But you seem to be denying that organized criminal enterprises were invigorated by prohibition.
I don't think anyone here is saying that removing victemless crimes, like drug crimes, will remove all criminals. What is being said is that it would stop alot of the money they receive, and allow police to spend their efforts on a more narrow concentrated area, the actual violent types. There isn't any connection between legal sale of drugs and racketeering for instance.
>So then surely this should be expanded to every potentially dangerous activity.
Yeah, or you could just not be a selfish dumbfuck and buy a helmet like everyone else.
>So wait... The victim is myself?
And everyone else who works in same field. Thank you for confirming that you only think about yourself.
>Why don't you need a biscuit license to sell Tim Tams?
When is the last time you heard about someone causing a car accident because he ate some biscuits?
The fact that Miller and Budweiser do not need to send "death squads" to rub each other out, does not negate the fact that the "deaths squads" will show up if you or I were to attempt to compete with Miller and Budweiser by producing commercial quantities of alcohol without official sanction from the "cartel".
ergo the violence of prohibition has not actually stopped. It's not complicated anon.
>Yeah, or you could just not be a selfish dumbfuck and buy a helmet like everyone else.
So what you're saying is that you don't have a response?
>And everyone else who works in same field
Wait, if I work for $10/hr how am I assaulting someone else who works for a different company for $20/hr?
>causing a car accident because he ate some biscuits?
You specifically said "adulterated products". The goalposts sure are moving quickly today.
And both are wrong. Even Washington squashed people who were just trying to make their own booze.
I sometimes wonder if ol' George was testing the new nation, seeing if we'd have the balls to stand up to domestic aggression. And we failed.
We live in punishment, not unlike the original people exiled from Eden.
>>if you undercut us or fuck us over the ATF will kill/imprison you for us
Provide an example of an alcoholic beverage company siccing an ATF death squad on a business rival, for the purposes of eliminating competition.
>The fact that Miller and Budweiser do not need to send "death squads" to rub each other out, does not negate the fact that the "deaths squads" will show up if you or I were to attempt to compete with Miller and Budweiser
Yes, hence the reason why I mentioned "social support".
If you say "Sweet CP brah, make some more!" then you are contributing to it.
If you distribute it, you're also contributing.
If you download and fap to it, you aren't contributing because you aren't giving them any attention or money.
>ergo the violence of prohibition has not actually stopped
Cities on the east coast set new homicide records after prohibition went in to effect. Gang killings didn't make it above the fold anymore.
This other anon, and apparently you now, are claiming that this violence never stopped.
If that's so, it should be quite easy to prove. Post some sources.
distraction is one of the leading causes of auto accidents, whether a phone call or eating a fistfull of biscuits. the logical progression of your argument is we need to ban biscuits in the name of public safety to prevent biscuit related auto fatalities.
>bu...bu...bu...there aren't that many!
and only 10,000 out of a country of roughly 320,000,000 die in car accidents involving intoxication. if you trivialize the "one life!" lost to biscuit related auto fatalities because it doesn't fucking matter then you have no leg to stand on for your pathological reason for 0.00003125% of the population that die wrapping thier truck around an oak tree.
What if I make my own meth because I'm a certified whiz kid of a chemist?
What if I grow my own pot because I have a green thumb?
What if I made my own coke because I am a green thumbed whiz kid chemist?
What if this was all done in amerca, with our labor laws, and with FDA checks on purity and overall quality?
On the other hand, child porn can't exist without abuse no matter what, you cannot argue that it is comparable. Not without being fucking stupid sounding at least.
>muh deathsquads strawman
>threat of violation of local, state, and federal liquor ordinances that will result in fines and incarceration for not toeing the line and letting everyone make money not being the same thing as bootleggers taking each other on for muscling in on territory.
how do you not understand that changing the stick still means someones hitting you with a stick? just because it isn't the Mcullock gang shooting up your dock and costing you 10k in product but now the ATF fining you $10,000 for a violation doesn't mean you aren't out 10K
>Yes I'm sure they are not doing anything about assaults or thefts or murders, they're just enforcing laws to meet ticket quotas
If they are uniforms, yeah that's exactly what they are doing.
Aside from that, clearance rates are abysmal. I'll grant that a major reason why that is is because it really isn't that hard to get away with a crime if you meet pretty much one condition
>Don't personally know or be associated in anyway with the victim
>>muh deathsquads strawman
Don't use terms you don't understand.
>how do you not understand that changing the stick still means someones hitting you with a stick? just because it isn't the Mcullock gang shooting up your dock and costing you 10k in product but now the ATF fining you $10,000 for a violation doesn't mean you aren't out 10K
A threat of a fine is a far cry from getting mowed down by a BAR in an alleyway. Your claim is that "the violence never stopped'. Back that claim up, or acknowledge that you have lost the argument.
Violence, by every objective, quantifiable measure, dropped after prohibition ended. Dramatically.
Who are they going to believe? The "shit bird who's mad that he got a speeding ticket or some shit", or the fucking sheriff?
Not even that anon, but fucking think before you say some stupid shit. Just think about all the times people reply to someone legitimately criticizing cops with "haha he's made af because he got pulled over" "Fucking hippie pot head" etc.
Now imagine it's not just some cop you're not even associated with on the internet, it's literally the elected Sheriff of a county you live in.
The average American commits three felonies a day.
They do it without knowing, and without harming anybody else.
Telling people that they "shouldn't be worried about cops as long as they don't break the law" is like telling people who live in ISIS that they "shouldn't be worried about being thrown off a building as long as they aren't gay"
>>cops stay away from problem areas
>"They don't care"
>>cops patrol problem areas
>"Cops are racist"
False dichotomy you dunce.
It isn't "enforce the law" or "stay away" with no room for nuance.
Perhaps you shouldn't beat the shit out of people and shoot them while shouting "stop resisting" while they are literally on the ground and in cuffs.
"Stop resisting" is the LEO version of "Am I being detained?".
the ATF murdering popcorn sutton isn't written up as "crime"
>old moonshiner makes documentary
>shows people how shitty the ATF is, how to distill spirits, muh history, and questions prohibition holdout laws passed by soccermoms and misused by mainstream alcohol producers
>ATF raids his place
>popcorn sutton ded as fuck
>1000 gorillion gallons of moonshine apparently found
>none cataloged into evidence
>none ever seen by someone who isn't an ATF agent
like fags did in the 40's?
you commit 3+ felonies a day buddy. You being an underagefag or a sheltered idiot doesn't change that.
it's been proposed and many countries will send you to prison for drawing a stick figure with small boobs.
A lot of other countries do.
There are quite a few Ausfags in this thread, and loli is absolutely illegal here.
If the cops think you have loli on your computer, they'll kick in your door, shoot your dog and torture you for your encryption key.
The producers of Cops changed the program to show more white criminals on the show because the progressive faggots felt blacks were portrayed unfairly.
That's why it went from chases and gunfire to random stupid drunks, domestic disputes, and other boring shit.
Same person who did Popcorn in also fucked up Waco. Jim Cavanaugh iirc.
And then Sutton killed himself before he could get hauled off to jail, he was sick at the time and was deathly afraid of dying in jail.
Another interesting thin, Lon Hirouchi (idk how it's spelled) was the crazy shooter at ruby ridge, and they let him play crazy killer again at Waco.
>It amuses me that people here hate the shit out of cops and then, in the same breath, unironically argue that police treatment of dindus is entirely justified.
This. So fucking much.
>more than one person can't think I'm retarded... right?
>I literally don't understand hyperbole
Sutton "killed himself" just like they "found" 1000s of gallons of moonshine on his property
Uhhh nothing, it ain't illegal in the US. Drawings mang.
But sorry other countries, yeah your laws suck even more than the USA's. You need to get your funs back before you should give a fuck about loli shit.
>I like tall ladies with huge tits and big asses
I still think laws against drawings are fucking dumb, but it is certainly not the most pressing issue at the moment.
So you hate the cops, but not when they are fucking up someone you don't like?
Small town cop here, this....
> Only thing i would do would be have dispatch run the guns Serial # through NCIC to see if its stolen.. Other than that "registered" is bullshit.
> Dispatch would hate me for it though...
> But fuck them its their job.
>anyone liking the police
every police-public interaction either exposes their ineffectualness or corruption.
Or do you really think your local PD's speedtrap takes precedence over having another car to respond to that murdered restraining order holder's 911 call a few minutes quicker?
I think having roads that are safe is something I like. I don't know how to weight safe roads against 911 murder response times. It seems like an extreme example. I use roads and don't live in the ghetto.
There used to be a cops commercial and there was a cop chasing someone and he says "stop running or I'll shoot you in the back!" Turns out my mom knows that guy. Many keks ensued
So then how am I samefagging by responding to two different posts?
By that logic essentially anyone who has ever in their life made more than one single post here is "samefaggin".
>make the road safer
you can't be this indoctrinated.
outside of bumblefuck or your 12 year old bedroom, everyone speeds. all the time. it is literally dangerous to go the speed limit on the interstate highway system. who gets pulled over is literally a game of "who has the nicest car/shittiest car" to either get a fat juicy ticket or a nioce drug search but it's totally not profiling we say you were speeding. The reason why the national speed limit isn't raised to 35-55-75 is because tickets are an easy way to generate local revenue without raising taxes.
lick that boot somewhere else as cars dodge your ass "safely" going 20 miles slower than the flow of traffic.
anon with respect you know fuck all about how police work
the first thing that may have not sunk in is that most people don't know shit about the law, so when police approach people they often have to dumb things down, or lead people in such a way that the person doesn't fuck up accidentally.
the second thing is that they are actively targeting criminals, you might laugh at what they do but a real criminal may have an entirely different reaction
the third is that the police are simply the instrument of the law, which puts them in a very difficult spot
if the law is unreasonable, if they vary it they may get hammered by the public AND the force
and they can get hammered the same way if they DO follow the law to the letter
they are made responsible for things that are often largely out of their control
for instance in a country where anyone could easily be armed, do they slam tackle every suspect in case they are packing, or do they call out first and guarantee that that one in a hundred guy will start shooting at whichever officer encounters him.
SoFlo cop here... holy shit OP this is genius and just gave me a new idea on how to trick criminals into confessing that they were carrying a stolen firearm post Miranda:
>"Javaris, that Jennings registered to you?"
>"Man I ain't had no gunnnn."
>"I literally watched you throw it. Just because it's not registered to you doesn't mean you stole it, is it registered to a friend of yours? Come on man, work with me on this so we can clear you and let you go home tonight."
>"Y-yeah it's muh homies' glock. He lemme borrow it. Should be registered to him."
>"Oh ok so <insert made up name here> is your buddy?"
>"Ok well I just made that up, and it was reported stolen out of Broward 2 years ago. So now you've admitted to carrying concealed without a permit, you're a felon, you had a stolen gun, and you're a liar on audio and video. Think about the next words that come out of your mouth very carefully or we're not going to be able to help you."
Then shut the car door and let him stew on the back seat camera for about 2 and a half minutes.
>"So you wanna stop playing games now?"
One of two things will happen. He'll openly admit or minimize with more incriminating lies, or he'll lawyer up but it's too late. You've just gotten him to indirectly but clearly admit to all offenses, and shown the jury that he's a liar.
it'd work all of once, so save it for someone stupid enough to fall for it but big enough to matter
then watch as the higher court decides you violated his rights 10 years down the pipe and the people become safe from your shenanigans
also fuck you. I hate niggers as much as the next guy but florida carry laws are shit and stop trying to find ways to get away with violating people's 5th amendment rights you massive winged faggot.
You and the hospital that has to pay your medical bills >>Ride a pushbike without a helmet
The kid that stumbles in from next door and drowns in it >>Have a backyard paddling pool with 31cm of water
nobody >>Own an unregistered gun
nobody >>Smoke weed
nobody >>Marry a man
You and the society that has to give you welfare to enable you to survive >>Willingly work for less than the award rate
The people that have to pay for law enforcement, medical and repair bills due to the damage the idiots you sold it to caused >>Sell alcohol without a license
wut >>Buy a beer after "lockout"
nobody >>Play an uncensored version of Left 4 Dead
>has to pay your medical bills
This doesn't happen as much as you imply it does, if at all. More homeless people use these expenses than anyone, but you probably think "fug da homeless" too right?
and that's another problem, nobody can know all the laws, and not even lawyers know more than the basics on the spot
when someone asks "is that gun registered to you", they are actually fishing for implicits
A. confirm you are knowledgeably in possession of a the weapon
B. confirm or deny if it's stolen
C. demonstrate you know something at all about the law
so it literally doesn't matter if there is a registration requirement, because in answering the question the suspect will in all likelihood tell the officer everything he/she needed to know
in this case
"it's not mine I'm just carrying it"
"it's registered to (insert made up name)"
"fuck the law this is my gat"
would be cause for arrest, and would by typical criminal answers
usually an owner of a premises has a "duty of care", meaning a obligation to protect anyone who might be affected
anyone includes trespassers to some degree, because the possibility of trespass is foreseeable
this means if I put bear traps on my lawn to catch housebreakers, and I cut off some guys leg I can't say "if he wasn't breaking the law it wouldn't have happened
in essence one breach of the law doesn't always make resulting breaches by others OK
it's actually a real thing, getting a child or handicapped person to do a crime for you
even a drunk or someone in great need
rationale is that the court will see them as a secondary victim, and you might be only liable for a lesser offence
the cutoff usually has an exemption either way for the minor being able to understand the implications of their action, the "mens rea"
so a younger child who is very clever could be liable, and in rarer cases a fool over the age might not be (though more often they have to be considered impaired, or are simply given a wrist slap)
United States 6-12  Age determined by each state; the minimum age is 6 (North Carolina); however, only 15 states have set minimum ages, which range from 6 to 12 years. States without statutory minimum ages rely on common law, which means that 7 is the minimum age in most states; for federal crimes the age has been set at 11.
It wouldn't go anywhere. A 5 year old would not be charged by any DA that valued their job and it would be immediately thrown out of court, if it even made it past the grand jury. I don't care if your 5 year old is a baby ISIS sandnigger that cut someone's head off at gunpoint and burned their neighbor to death, they're still not getting charged, indicted or convicted.
>gang of 11 year olds
>have them dress up like the foot clan
>rob banks- every bank in a small city at the same time on the same day
>federal crime ;^)
>the police raid your cult compound
>you're dressed in a cheap shredder halloween costume
>suddenly hundreds of 11 year olds with hipoints and ninja costumes fight off the feds- more federal crimes ;^)
>jk they launch smoke into your house and a fire mysteriously starts
You know you got me thinking. how could you rob a bank and commit only federal crimes while doing so, without committing any state ones whatsoever?
Maybe your gang of 10 year olds could rob the Federal Reserve. Use NFA weapons obtained from an indeterminate other state, don't assault /threaten anybody, just straight up shoot them; steal an FBI car for an escape and drive the speed limit until you're on the highway.
The perfect crime.
>At a bar getting full cut
>Last call comes up, and I get up to leave
>Way to drunk to drive, girlfriend lives 2 blocks away
>Half way there 5 cop cars pull up, one of em cuts me off by driving up on the curb
>Next thing I know i'm in cuffs on the curb
>We have reports of a "suspicious person" they keep trying to get me to do a breathalyzer
>Keep telling them I was to drunk to drive and left my car at the bar but they keep pushing me to blow in the breathalyzer
>My pockets turned out, nothing but my cell, keys, and wallet on me
>They are yelling at me to take the breathalyzer
>"JUST TAKE IT AND IT WILL ALL BE OVER"
>Finally blow into it and as soon as I do they pick me up and toss me in the back of a car
>Take me to the drunk tank. they give me a public intoxication ticket that after court fees is like 400 bucks
>Call my dad to come get me
Not to sound like a edge lord but I don't trust cops. Granted that is my only run in with them and i'm 30 now. But I don't even really speed so its whatever. I always get a little nervous when running a state background check, always thinking i'll fail for the incident
>Public intoxication is illegal
This still amazes me.
Gotten drunk at a bar? Fine.
Decided not to drive home? Great!
Decided to walk? Illegal lel
But hey, I used to work as a bouncer - I've seen cops do far worse.
I heard a story once where a cop was pinning someone down on the ground, and while he was doing it he stole the guy's wallet.
Holy fuck, I vacation to maggie valley at least once a year. Knew about this guy, but not that he was murdered by da feds a few miles from the mountain I was staying on.
No one in town ever mentions him; I could see a neat tourist trap dedicated to this coot. plenty of bikers coming through to buy that weakass legal moonshine and go through a small museum that amounts to this documentary and the "MURDERED BY THE ATF" display.
They were lucky.
That's the thing with a large number of laws (possibly even most of them).
They only really exist so that the cops can throw some charges at people they don't like.
Want to charge someone with something but don't have any evidence? Charge them with 10 other minor things to bring it up to the same punishment.
>You don't even hear the camera man breathing loudly.
That's because the sound is being recorded from lapel mics. The cameraman wouldn't be wearing one so of course you'd never hear him breathing.
But why did they not like? I'm white, clean cut, presentable for the most part. I could see the while I was walking to when they stopped me. I was in a relatively commercial area so it's not like home owners could of reported me.
Maybe they were just having a bad day and wanted to rough somebody up.
Maybe they hadn't filled their quota for that week.
Maybe they had a rookie with them and wanted to create a training experience.
It's impossible to say.
because they knew if you blew the county got $400 and they couldn't find a reason to pull over any of those other evil drunks at the bar. damn them for having more than 1 beer in an hour period and driving without issue!
I think his lady maintains it was suicide, and Sutton was a quiet old man who just wanted to leave behind a record of what life for him and his family had really been like. He may not have wanted anything showy like a museum left behind.
I'm not saying the feds did or didn't kill him for sure one way or the other. But if he did kill himself; the trumped up charges of the ATF, which were inreality a response to the documentary, were just as good as them pulling the trigger. He was sick as hell and old too when they went after him.
The director of COPS said they have tons of footage of blacks committing crimes and they don't show it because it would reflect badly on blacks. They deliberately count how many times they show a black being arrested for each episode.
I'm just thinking since the maggie valley restaurant he ate at erryday has been out of business for about 6-7 years it'd be a good location to sell commercial moonshine, have a small restaurant, and a free museum glorifying mountain life and the last of the real mountainmen with a showing theatre for this documentary.
Unethical? Unconstitutional? What a joke. How do you guys think confessions, utterances, and incriminating statements are gained?
>"Do you understand these rights as I have read them to you?"
>"DID YOU DO IT? DID YOU?"
>"I want my attorney now."
You get people to like you enough to tell their side of what happened, lock them into a statement you know and can PROVE is bullshit, then show them that they fucked up.
Courts have ruled cops can lie to you so long as you are not making false promises to coerce statements such as plea bargains. Otherwise, interviews are just a chess game of bullshit.
A lot of the time these techniques work, sometimes they don't. It depends on a lot of factors. My advice to /k/ and any of my friends or family is that if you are in trouble and advised Miranda, don't take it lightly and simply invoke your rights.
/k/ seems a bit touchy tonight.
Here's a slightly related story from my uncle
>drinking in a bar with the New York City DA
>DA pulls out 1911 he stole from the evidence locker and starts waiving it around
> later he happens to shoot himself with
but remember NY fags, guns are bad okay??
>I can do whatever I want
>Because it leads to people who may or may not be guilty getting locked up!
>if you are in trouble and advised Miranda, don't take it lightly and simply invoke your rights
Yup, too bad that so many of you fuckers seem to only think that it applies until you're in the interrogation room, and that you're willing to do completely unethical things like lie to people and flat-out torture them to get a confession.
The reason we're a bit touchy is because you claim to protect and serve us, yet you seem have absolutely no consideration for our rights.
and thats why suckstart a shotgun m8
>violate the spirit of the 5th amendment
>get assmad when anyone savvy to your bullshit gives no statement and asks if he is free to leave, then that he wants legal representation when you decide to ruin his day via arrest as punishment for not licking that boot hard enough.
they should stop hiring 80IQ chuds who can't understand basic behavioral psychology. negative punishment doesn't change behavior, it just hides it. Being a pig cocksucker and attempting to rule through fear means you alienate yourself from the community. you wouldn't need your thin blue line if you weren't such thugs in daily interaction with the citizenry you say you protect.
well yeah, they will be total assholes and slimy bastards to get you to do whatever they want. they said it'd all be over (and it was). they'd lie to you and say it's just procedure (it is because they want to toss you into the tank). they'll try to buddy up to you or appeal to you to "be a man" because they want you to drop your guard or be too proud to stick to your story so they can catch you.
I've come to the conclusion that cops, unless they've been introduced by someone I trust, are all assholes. yeah, there are good ones out there, but they probably just haven't been on the force long enough to turn into an asshole.
if drugs were legalized then terrorist organizations would either lose all their income or just find something else illegal to make money from
for example if opiates were legal then then afgani warlords and Golden Triangle gooks would be pretty fucked because opium can grow basically anywhere with little cost
britain has started growing opium domestically for morphine production because it is cheaper than importing opium latex from india(which is still less than the cost to smuggle opiates illegally)
That's not what I said at all. Not even a little bit. I said invoke your rights because it's just good advice lol. What the fuck happened to mature night /k/? All you guys are doing is...well you're not even twisting what i'm saying, you're making shit up. This board has been nothing but shitposting the last year it seems.
Trying to trip people up by lying to them in questioning is fantastic at getting confessions. But it's not good at getting to the truth. It puts people in a position where even those who are innocent think that the odds are against them. So they take the plea bargain; they "confess" because you said that you can "help them"; they take a guaranteed smaller punishment rather than risk a larger punishment, because they think they have no chance of winning. Your method basically means that people who were guilty of nothing more than being unaware of their rights and that police can lie are put in jail and convicted of felonies, and the real perpetrators are left to commit more crimes, all the while you feel good about yourself because you put someone behind bars.
I guess that says something about the state of policing in America, where people think that the idea that law enforcement has found or fabricated evidence to convict them of a crime they didn't commit plausible enough that taking the deal is better than standing up for yourself in court.
Tricking people is basically you being an asshole. Period. Doesn't matter whether you're getting some nignog to confess or socially engineering someone into letting you into their house so you can scope it out, you're an asshole. There's a reason a lot of people don't like cops.
I believe he meant buying liquor after hours, not necessarily from a moonshiner. Laws currently in place that prevent an individual from buying alcohol after or before a certain time are bullshit.
As we've seen, all it takes is a little attention and some "think of the children"s to get even the most overtly draconian measures popular support from the the soccermom/appeal to emotion crowd. That shit could even go bipartisan.
I don't into loli, but jacking off to drawings is about as harmless as it gets.
Wait guys, what's wrong with registering your gun? My guns are registered to me. I always thought it was kinda neat to have them registered to you??? Its a bad thing? Can someone red pill me please?
would you like it if the government knew every bit of porn you had ever looked at? no? that's how we think of the government having info on what guns we have. our guns are our porn. we use repeated stroking and pulling motions and we don't want other people to know about it.
The idea behind insurance in general is that the people using the insurance company's money for claims are mitigated by the scores of people who aren't.
That's the entirety of the business model, so I don't know where "we pay for you to be a fuckup" comes from, when "we" the consumers technically pay for *everyone* who has a claim, dubious morality or no.
>ninja fantasy crime kids
Those kids would love the shit out of that.
What would be the point? Why try to attract only the attention of the people with the greatest jurisdiction? Just a thought exercise?
If so, interesting concept, but federal property isn't extraterritorial. I'm fairly sure each of those offenses would have a state charge as well, but, not 100% on them ALL.
>Hurr without laws there would be no law breakers.
>I'm the victim. Me being a scumbag doesn't mean I need to be punished.
>my dad left when I was little and momma never beat me.
>I can't do anything wrong I'm morally superior to people who swear to uphold peace and justice by samefagging my edgy retardedness on a thai elephant tattooing forum.
If any law enforcement does see this. The majority of people support you, don't listen to this autist.
>where a cmaera crew/guy literally follows a cop on patrol
>OP thinks the camera guy will fucking turn in a tape where all laws and procedures are done correctly with little to no drama
>this makes good TV
OP, you're a fucking idiot.
Because you're talking like this is an automatic thing we all get in the US, it isn't. And if I do pay for insurance, well fuck yeah it is my right to use it if I NEED it.
I'm mad at how stupid you are to suggest that a law should exist to prevent someone from using the insurance they choose to pay into.
What if I rock climb? What if I sky dive? What if I have a hazardous job? What if I don't feel like wearing a fucking dumb helmet while I ride? If my insurance is setup to cover me for X incident, it doesn't matter, so fuck off.
But that isn't why the law exists anyway you monogloid, it was created under the guise of civic protection, but was just another way of witing tickets, ie more taxes without being taxes.
This all started with people saying they wished cops would concentrate on real threats to the community instead of kids who don't wear helmets. Shit, if the cop really gave a fuck he'd pull the kids aside and explain why helmets are a good idea, not write their parents a ticket. When I was a kid, this is how cops looked after kids. Because they cared about the community the worked in. Now they do not give a fuck and are just doing a job.
Bruh, I grew up in a family of LEOs and they all constantly harped on how bad the cops in that show usually were, but in a work-snipin sort of way. You best believe that the cops in each episode are on their best behavior WITH A FUCKIN CAMERA ON THEM. Many cops I know had the chance to be on the show, but refused because it "would inhibit their work."
That's kinda terrifying. At least in terms of the
>Hansen confronts a pedo
>They get embarrassed
>14 cops burst around the corner and tackle him, the rest have guns drawn
>He flinches because they didn't even identify themselves yet
>Not resisting at all
>"Police! Hands on the ground!"
>Cut to clip of pedo being interviewed with busted lip
I have enough moral character to look and make my own decisions instead letting a group of professional liars tell me that smoking a bowl is directly responsible for a gang rape in South America
Especially when anybody with even a cursory understanding of black markets already knows that its the fact that the bowl is illegal that drives all of the violence in south america.
Child pornography can only be produced by the sexual abuse of a child. It causes lifelong psychological problems that most people can't get around.
Drugs can be produced without harming anyone as there isn't inherent danger in their production. Legalizing them would eliminate the black market and any danger involved, which is why drug cartels aren't killing eachother over ibuprofen.
If you think the two are analogous, you are a special kind of retard.
>Few months ago
>Work as SIU Detective for the Washington State Patrol and part time on the State SWAT Team. Child trafficking and child prostitution mostly. (*Child: 0-15 years old by our definition)
>Our LT gets a tip off about children being smuggled in by H-97 and I-5 from Oregon
>Gather intel from PCI/SPCI's and from other agencies over a four weeks
>We finally come up with a enough probable cause to get a no-knock warrant sign off the next week
>Our Major calls the State SWAT team, DEA, ATF, Border Patrol and ICE.
>I notify CPS in advance as we our expecting 87 to 104 children
>Meeting time. Go over plans in the briefing room until the SWAT/Feds show up and go into more detailed plans. Talk for a few hours until everything is ready
>Drive down and everyone meets nine miles from the designated locations to raid at 4:30am
>Gear up and shit talk/play around until LT calls all SIU detectives to his SUV
>Brand new in the box UMP-40, MP7-A1 HK416A5-11, HK416A5-14.5, HK416A5-16.5, LWRC M6A2, Colt Mk. 18 Type 2. HK417A2-13, HK417A2-20, FN Ballista-308/Ballista-338 for all SIU in the District. Finally getting rid of our ~20 year old M4's and MP5A5's.
>Have to swap my LAW tactical fold stock, Vltor IMOD, SpectreDR 1x-6x with RM06, AN/PEQ-15, SureFire M952V, DD vertical grip Diamondback BUIS, SFMB-556-1/2-28 and SOCOM556-RC2 over from my M4 in the parking lot at 3:45-4:00am in the Morning. (That was fun with no AR tools and just my multi-tool)
>Anyways, everyone is ready and loads up into the SUV's and two Lenco BearCat's brought along
>Get to within one mile of the raid location and dismount except for me and a SWAT guy in the Turrets. Everyone else follows in behind and between the BearCat's. Take my STANAG out and load in my SureFire 60 rounder and switch my HK416C to fun mode.
>The BearCat's creep down this winding dirt road with no lights to be quiet.
>Extremely dark and eerie, attachment my ThermoSight T-60 to feel better
Broward county sheriff's on average shoot more suspects dead than any other Leo department.
Orlando PD though, is on another level with just general brutality. An average officer in Orlando uses force 640 times per year, that's *AVERAGE* meaning including the desk jockeys and dispatchers. 6 in 10 get injured enough to need a hospital stay. They pay nearly 3 times as much in brutality settlements as any other department in the country (per capita) and their police chief doesn't think they use excessive force at all.
Florida on a whole is just fucked when it comes to their LEOs and their culture
>live in south Texas my whole life
>cops try to put on a good image because of previous scandals
>Most people tend to respect cops because of the growing conflict across the border
Honestly most of the cops I've met are bro tier
I'm not defending the atf, at all. I'm saying that the alcohol industry, which used to be a violent black market, ended all the violent problems it had end naturally upon legalization. The guy I replied to is arguing the violence in the illegal drug trade has a cause other than the drugs themselves being illegal. Then he realized he's a fucking retard and tried to argue that all that violence still exists in the alcohol industry, but it's just the atf doing it instead.
>frequent marijuana use by minors leads to a drastically increased risk of mental illnesses such as depression and schizophrenia
>implying you don't count as a victim
Like all drug, nothing. And it makes me sad that I can't help them because they don't want to help themselves. I don't think any of my advice to users has mad a lasting effect. I know damn well after they get released they will be right back to there old ways.
>Get to within 1,000 yards of the location
>Meet up with the County SRT team and FBI SWAT team/SA's coming down from the other end of the dirt road
>They have two BearCat's with them also
>All Snipers and DM's go set up in the woods around the location giving additional cover to the rear and sides for us
>All BearCats merge together and continue onto the property. The location has a main house, 5,421 sq ft, six 400 to 930 sq ft guest houses and one 3,221 sq ft shop with 450 acres
>Fed tactical teams go stack up on the guest houses, shop and start looking for hidden locations. SIU, State SWAT and the County SRT stack up around the main house
>Dismount from my turret and put one of the FBI SA's up
>Grab the rams and shields to pass out, take off my T60 put on my PVS7-2 and ballistic shin guards
>Take point on the first side entrance with the shield and get ready to make entry
>Everyone waits until it hits exactly 4:30am to make entry
>I get pushed in by the guys behind me(as should happen) and take a left heading to the living room and kitchen areas
>Other sections clear the rest of the first floor
>Stack up again and start head up stairs
>Our K-9 is released on one dumb shit laying at the top of the stairs with a WASR
>Get him secured and continue clearing the second floor
>Secure four more subjects and secure the second floor
>Push on up the third and final floor
>Secure six more subjects
>Find 29 female children on the third floor 5-14 years olds, 22 Caucasians and 7 Asians and other 31 female children(all Caucasians) shackled in the basement - 3-17 years old
>I help get them outside and start caring for them. The ones that were shackled have the chains embedded into their wrists and ankles
>Trying English them. One of the girls talks for all of them "Mēs nesaprotam tevi, kungs."
>I have got this. "Vai jūs visi Latvijā? Jā , kungs. Jūs esat droši tagad - Es esmu policists. Cik ilgi tu šeit esi bijis? Sešus gadus, kungs"
>Talk with the girl for little while longer
>They were either kidnapped/sold by their families to the Latvian Mafia and then trafficked into US or Canada
>Go over to the Asian girls and talk to them. One speak English, thankfully
>They were trafficked in from Malaysian Borneo and then sold to the Latvians at some point
>Feds come back with 96 Caucasian females - 0-17 years old all Lithuanian, Latvian, Polish, Belorussian or Ukrainian
>Their K9's find six girls executed in the woods with GSW's to the back of the head
>My LT gets me to find what I can from the other Latvian girls and comfort them as much as I can
>Load them in the BearCats and SUV's and drive them to local hospitals to be taken care of
>Eight more girls have died over the last few moths from the extent of their wounds
>ICE and State CPS has no idea where to place or what to do 146 trafficked girls
ICE and CPS asked me two weeks if I will foster the two healthiest girls(13 and 15) for the time being and gave me a condition on teaching them English as fast as I could. So, that they can testify to the State and Federal Grand Juries and to help them with their asylum hearings. Everyone has agreed on not sending them back if we can help it. They will just end up being trafficked again or simply killed. I agreed to it on the condition that I get to continue fostering them afterwards. I hope that my gets approved. It is extremely rare for something like this to happen. CPS and ICE desperate enough get the raiding deputies/troopers to foster the kids. We have all the fostering written up as protective custody of State witnesses.
>Not getting a signed bill of sale when buying, just to prevent such hassles
>not keeping emails or communication about the sale on file in physical and digital media
Step it up senpai
The fifteen year old has become very attached to me and comes to me to talk. My wife and I also have them in therapy to help with the trauma that they gone through and help them with getting out of the submissive/slave and prostitute mentality. I have learned a lot more of what happened to all of the girls. Too bad that it is all hear say right now; one of the executed girls was her twin sister. The thirteen year old is extremely wary of all males and stays away from me most of the time. She has become attached to my oldest daughter and my wife. I would be scared too if I was beaten with splinter sticks and hot rods like she was. My wife and/or daughters have to treat her still healing wounds/scars.
It hasn't been said in this thread that, prior to Prohibtions, the most violent thing about alcohol was alleged beatings from drunken fathers/husbands (which is a problem with shitty husbands/fathers, not alcohol) and Women's Suffrage types who would storm bars and chops the places up with hatchets. Literally.
Again, alcohol was not nearly as violent before Prohibition, making things people want illegal makes them attract and create violent criminals.
If the substance in question is only affecting the end user, it shouldn't be made illegal.
Also, are you a fucking retard? That happens. A lot. They just take the weed for themselves or crush it on the ground or whatever.
I actually remember a story from a friend; their dealer got a bit big for his britches and decided to moved up to armed robbery. He and a friend got stopped after being followed by some cops watching a dealer's house. After being earnest, upfront, and calm with the officers, they explained that while they may call on him for a sting with the dealer (Never did), they were otherwise free to go, no issue, no record. Have a nice day.
You seem to have the impression that everything is evil and terrible because you listen to everything you read in the papers, and that's a mistake. There's still men like Serpico out there. You don't hear about the everyday cops stopping robberies and consoling people and kicking down the doors of crack dealers, because nobody covers those, not even 'Cops' for the bigger ones. You only hear about botched raids, or fucked-up no-knocks, or presumed police brutality. Those are the only things that are seen fit to print, because everything is awful and everyone likes being told everything is awful, apparently.
The majority of the stories are either unimportant, routine, or unreported because of how it went down or that everything went right. That's all. And I bet you don't even think of the fact that a good police force works like a nuclear deterrent, not an active force. People don't fuck around with places they know the police will fuck them up, they do it in the shitty, crime-ridden areas where the cops are in more danger than anyone living there. You don't, even for a minute, think of that.
Stop acting like a teenager who just got out of his anarchist phase and is toying with Libertarianism because he still gets to say "fuck the government, and especially the police!". Stop.
And weed certainly had a smaller following and no violent criminals until AFTER it was targeted, which was right AFTER Prohibition ended, and was pursued by many of the same politicians and professional complainers who said Prohibtion was a good idea.
Fucking google Fats Waller or Stuff Smith Onyx Club. They laughed at the ridiculousness of pursuing weed/jive, right up until it was illegal and their music suppressed. It wasn't just blacks given the shaft there either, they fucked Harry "Hipster" Gibson even harder for being a white who dared to make a NEUTRAL funny song about drugs, kept him from recording professionally again until he was an old man.
People who fuck with other people because "muh feelings" are wrong, evil, and killing this country. They are by and large the same people who want your guns, so you can't say "No."
That true about Orlando? Good fuck, that's crazy. I had no clue about that, and I lived like ten minutes from the two worst parts of town for two years. Guess that's where that's going on, but I never much saw the cops ever do any shit like that.
To be fair to them, honestly, OPD was one of the best departments I've had to deal with, in that they didn't really seem concerned about stupid shit or kids buying pot or whatever. They all had black uniforms, half of them were tacticool, but they were generally a pleasure to deal with whenever you had to, and seemed more interested in dealing with the important shit in the bad areas rather than ticketing kids for not wearing a helmet or something.
But that's my experience with them. I'd imagine if they are focused as I think, that would explain why more get injured; more are out there in the shit, I guess. But the brutality bit is interesting, I had no clue.
yup. before my mom retired they asked her to be on police women of broward county. they then told her she wasnt allowed to have any ammo in her gun, and that shed just show up to whatever is already in progress and she told them to fuck off.
apparently that intro part with the pig jumping over a fence was totally staged as well. kinda neat seeing a cop show in broward because i recognize it. i enjoy watching the old original cops episodes when it started here and seeing how not shitty it was then compared to now.
it's a leading question. It's designed to make people incriminate themselfs. "No, bla bla this is how I got it illegally but..." or "No, I don't think you know what your are talking about" man stated it wasn't his gun.
Read this. Especially
>People who fuck with other people because "muh feelings" are wrong, evil, and killing this country. They are by and large the same people who want your guns, so you can't say "No."
theres something about broward that makes it more shooty than other places. i cant quite place my finger on it. its not like its all run down and poor like detroit or south side chicago where youd expect that shit. the niggers here are just out of control. i grew up in sunrise, which is like half nice and half shitty white trash and niggers. the first time i got a gun pulled on me i was 14. all through high school it was constant stabbings, shootings, home invasions etc. eventually that shit started to spill over to the nice part of town, and luckily i turned 18 just as it began trickling over and i got the fuck out of dodge and havent looked back. i live in boca now and tell people up here how fucked it was and they refuse to believe me or think im exaggerating. i took my gf down there for some char hut once and drove her around. she was fucking amazed that there are just random niggers walking around in the street. she said to me, why the fuck are there just black people hanging out all over? and then it started to click in her brain.
honestly family that shit messed with my psyche. maybe im sensitive to that shit or im a pussy but all those years of having to be on high alert nearly 24/7 so i didnt get robbed or whatever broke my off switch and im hypervigilant AT ALL TIMES. it gets real fucking tiring looking over your shoulder and constantly monitoring wherever you are. it ruins socializing and stresses me the fuck out to the point where i get physically tired from being out for too long. it also makes people who dont know what its like think that im paranoid as fuck.
>tfw you grew up in broward, went to a 70% black highschool, and random niggers just chilling on street corners is just normal.
you either fight or die down here. Most whites don't have common street ape problems, but thats because all we do is deathstare niggers while not dressed like an extra from malibu's most wanted. everyone I know has the "I'll kill you over the $20 in my wallet" default face when on foot or in traffic; only sheltered little faggots get fucked up by blacks down here. Predators only attack prey.
>at friends party inna ghetto
>bunch of underclassmen
>everyone decides to walk down the street
>a joint gets passed around
>just 10 white kids walking in the middle of the street in sunrise drunk, high, and angry
>implying cops come here
>have one justin beiber fag with us
>pile in my car and get taco bell
>leave him at taco bell with a skateboard gg faggot
>he gets back to friend's house
>nigger stole his shoes.
A man just got killed over a few ounces of weed in my town two weeks ago. Two others are facing violent felony charges.
Guy tried to buy some pot with obviously fake money, the dealer and his friend grabbed baseball bats and attacked the guy, so the guy ran them over.
What did the bieber fag do to deserve that though? Was he a literal bieber fan, or you mean aesthetics? Could he have done anything to not draw y'all's ire? desu baka senpai you sound like a crab in the bucket.
being a skinny white 16 year old with bleached blond emo hair in sunrise, FL. Also known as "the fucking ghetto"
having nice shoes
>why'd you leave him a half dozen blocks away
because it was funny
angsty fag bullied in highschool detected. did you not have friends? Because pranking someone, having a laugh, then handing them a beer is what normies do at a college party.
the point is that literally 15 minutes in one of the nicer parts of the ghetto he got robbed because he looked like he could get robbed. shit sucks down here, you have to embrace the suck. Stay out of florida if your CC permit is just for show
What's their definition for 'Use of Force'? Where I'm from it's anytime an officer touches a person including shit like handshakes and helping old ladies get up off park benches.
the kind of use of force that causes liquor store burnings in yankee states.
he just said 6/10 arrested people have to go to the hospital.
but our corrupt shitty cops sure know how to suppress a riot. dindus haven't "protested" since the Miami riot since the response then was dogs, horses, water hoses, and every available 6ft and above sheriff and state trooper in the state decked in riot gear cracking heads and zipcuffing looters.
mah nigga. piper high school class of 03 here.
>everyone I know has the "I'll kill you over the $20 in my wallet" default face
that expression is burned into my face permanently. everyone always thinks im pissed off all the time. heres a good story for ya.
>2000, be 15
>walking up university going into places trying to get a job
>walk up to the checkers just north of oakland (its been closed for a while im pretty sure its just an empty lot now)
>buddy asks for manager
>scrawny nerdy faggot comes up to window
>ask him if theyre hiring there
>guy gets snotty "i already have 2 teenagers working for me and i cant have anymore"
>buddy tells him "ya well i got 2 nuts and you can suck them both"
>give up for the day, start walking towards the pollo tropical
>my niggey senses start tingling
>turn around, see 6 ft black dude following us
>once guy realizes we got the drop he reaches into his boot and pulls out a folding knife and starts charging at us
>we haul ass to the pollo and run inside, guy was like 5 ft behind us at this point
>sit inside the pollo while this crazy nigger taps on the glass with his knife and motions for us to come outside
>no cell phones, no money, terrified this guy is going to fucking murder us
>eventually he comes inside
>tells us we shouldnt have disrespected his boss like that
>that fucking nerd sicced his sambo on us
>tells us to hand over whatever we got on us
>tfw being robbed at knife point in a restaurant and nobody notices
>give him my newports, tells me i shouldnt be smoking anyways his mom has cancer something something
>tells us to watch what we say to who etc and he leaves
>wait another half an hour or so before leaving so we dont get knifed
fucking christ that was scary
hahaha i remember that. some lib college professor tried using a protest sign as a shield or something and caught a rubber bullet to the face. then someone was filming the debriefing and the cop said something to the effect of "hey who shot that bitch in the face? haha high five"
wew lad, you triggered? All he did was call you a nigger, for acting like a nigger.
Your friend could've got stabbed or worse from what you said earlier anyhow. Anonymous image board mang, chill out.
>hurr ur friend culd of been stabbed
>I'm not asshurt over being the unpopular faggot kid ;_;
what part of fight or die didn't you understand? what is it with yankees having such shitty survival instincts. Once you treat dindus practically you have no problems. situational awareness and short, direct sentences using words under 3 syllables and you never have problems with the North American street ape.
should have gotten out of dodge m8. talk shit, get hit isn't just a rap lyric.
>that fucking nerd sicced his sambo on us
my fucking sides
south florida truly is the worst place to grow up or live in. Everyone I meet who grew up whitewashed or out of state thinks I'm a war veteran from my demeanor.
>talk shit, get hit isn't just a rap lyric.
so i learned
heres another fun short one
>walking through west wind park after school
>raggedy ass hooptie driving by real slow
>car screeches to a stop and 5 big ole niggers get out
>me and one friend start speed walking away
>other friend is known for his stupid, exaggerated bravado walk like hes a wrestler walking to the ring or something
>while me and other friend are dipping without running, dumbass keeps swagging along while he gets swarmed
>one nig runs up and jumps and elbows him in the back of the head
>other nigs are patting him down and asking for money
>nig sucker punches him in the face
>friend grabs the smallest nigger theyre with and punches him in the gut
>nigs punch him in the face again
>i guess they are bored with him and run back to their car and take off
>friend is enraged
>told him on previous occasions you look like a bitch thats why niggers fuck with you so much
>taking bus back from ft lauderdale, was skating all day
>obviously stops at some pretty fucking sketchy places on the way back out west
>friend keeps fucking with the wire that hangs on the window to tell the driver to stop
>keeps hitting some nigger in the back of the head
>nigger gets up and starts yelling at us about it
>stupid walk friend stares at nigger with crazy eyes
>EY YOU BE LOOKIN AT ME WID DEM CRAZY EYES BUT ILL FUCK YOU UP COME OFF AT OUR STOP NIGGA CMON YOU THINK YOU CRAZY LETS DO IT and so on
>nigger continues with this until its his turn to get off
>CMON PUSSY WHITE BOYS GET OFF THE FUCKIN BUS
tell friend again, dude youre a fucking nigger magnet
>the nigger magnet
goddamn fucking that guy
my best friend was a big guy (4 u) who liked shouting nigger at the random street blacks out the window of my truck when drunk. too big for a solitary nigger or small group to chase us down, but he and I were lucky enough to not meet some drugged up gigganigga and his bros.
the only good thing about down here is how relatively brotier colombians and cubans are; all are criminals, but brotier.
As a cop, I disagree with your statement. Officer discretion plays a large part in how I do my job. If someone is chilling on their front porch lighting up, I don't really care.
I think that shit stinks, but hey, it's your property.
If they're doing it while driving, I'll do something about it, because high driving is dangerous to others.
I cut people a lot of slack when it comes down to enforcing laws.
Two people beating the shit out of each other outside of a bar? Mutual combat, no charges.
People drinking underage? (happens all the time here, especially during spring break) Pour it out, and keep it in your room next time.
If someone is staggering down the street drunk as fuck (not to the level of alcohol poisoning) and can't take care of themselves, I'll call a friend for them, or put them in a cab if they know where they're staying.
I've only had to take a handful of people to the jail for public intox, but it was only for a detox hold with no charges, for those too smashed to know where they are.
>breathalyzers are lie detector test tier m8. all it shows is the amount of alcohol metabolized into someone's blood
Nope. Intoxilyzers measure a subjects BrAC, or breath alcohol content. Under certain circumstances, like vehicular homicide, subjects will be taken to a hospital for a court ordered blood draw to test for BAC.
>(unless they have acid reflux, heartburn, the machine wasn't properly cleaned, the machine wasn't properly calibrated, etc.) not intoxication.
Acid reflux and heartburn don't have an effect on the reading from the intox. The machine doesn't need to be cleaned before and after every use, as each suspect is given a new, sealed mouthpiece to use for the test, which is opened and held only by the suspect during the test to maintain integrity, all while being filmed.
The intox machine is required to undergo yearly certification procedures, or it literally won't work. When it's turned on, the intox initializes a self test, which involves sending data to the local DMV. Part of the data includes the last certification date and if the self tests and air blank tests pass. When the DMV gets the information, it sends a signal back to the Intoxilyzer telling it to "pass" which moves it on to the next step (entering the subjects info). If it's out of the cert date, it gets a "fail" signal from the DMV and won't let you go any further.
>Anyone who is an alcohol can have double or more the limit and bacs past the "a 16 year old girl would be dead from this" level and be more functional than someone who is lower than the arbitrary BaC standard, which protip used to be .015 until they realized they could make more revenue if "drunk" was 2 beers in an hour.
It's not about the profit at all. A fun test to do is to get drunk (.15) in a controlled setting, test your BrAC with a handheld meter to verify, and then try and complete field sobriety tests. Do the same thing, but with a BrAC of .08, and you'll see one hell of a difference.
being a pig it's expected you oink on command, but only a retard thinks blood alcohol level means anything more more that blood alcohol level.
I doubt I've ever dealt with an IRL mexican. they might be as human garbage tier as the midwest says, but south americans and non black islanders generally are if not nice, at least not assholes. They understand everyone wants to make money and don't fuck with people unless fucked with.