rip guns boys

>a rare handful of crimes
>I'm only going to name the white shooters
>oh, and maybe some niggers commit the vast majority of gun crime that I plan on doing nothing to stop so we might mention them too :^)

>muh fuckin chilluns
>talking about constitutional rights while spitting in the face of constitutional law
Every day I come closer to voting for Trump.
Someone is going to shoot this man, I just hope he's no longer POTUS when it happens

Didn't chicago ban guns or something ?

>>28439830
Mark my words until the next election 2016 Obama will do something about gun deaths.
It's going to happen.

Why are you so scared of universal background checks /k/?

Why should you own a gun if you have a history of being a dirty nigger?

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>>28439835

>>28439818

Just retire, Barrack. Just go the fuck away already.

Sandy Hoax was just that, a hoax. Fuck knows what happened at Columbine, one of the shooters appears to have been an experiment conducted by his father, who works for Army brainwashing people. The nut at the theater was clearly a patsy who reacted to a cell phone call and then just stood around waiting to be taken into custody.

The 2nd Amendment is never to be touched, period. It's not about target shooting. It's about correcting the government when the government goes too far off the rails. Or sells too much of its soul to the bankers.

>>28439852
This EO is just testing the waters to see if he can push harder on Constitutional law surrounding the 2A. If nobody does anything this is going to set a precedence for POTUS to outright ignore the Constitution on the grounds of Executive Order.

>>28439835
>Voting for someone who supported gun control

>>28439852
Because the metadata from the transaction remains on file and becomes part of a de facto registry.

Because it's insulting to want to buy a .22 for your son or your brother and have both of you prove that you're not violent criminals.

Because we had no such restrictions until 1968 and the country wasn't a violent shithole.

Because when foreign religious fascists murder people at a Christmas party, the reaction of my government and the media and vast swathes of the urban population is to call for my head on a pike.

That's why.

Friendly Reminder: /k/ is a board devoted to weapons and military equipment. Discussions about politics or current events belong on /pol/. >>>/pol/

>>28439836
Yes, it's liberal cuck logic. I'm sure he watches Michelle get rail by Bill Clinton every other wednesday.

>>28439876
>Changing your opinion when you know when you are wrong

>>28439866
Sandy Vagina was the work of a mentally unstable man who got lucky and just so happened to Mr. Magoo his way through all societal safety nets intended to keep retards from having firearms.
Like all "mass shootings" it is a statistical anomaly, an outlier from which no relevant information can be taken and applied to any other incident. It is intrinsically alienated from all other gun crimes, and marks a failure of the American mental health system moreso than any failing of firearms law.

>>28439885
fuck off nigger this directly affects my right to bear arms.

They can talk about traffic laws and regulations on /o/ but we can't talk about gun laws on /k/?

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>>28439835
>voting for trump
>fucking ever
Unless you're in the 1% there is literally no reason to vote for Donald chump.

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>>28439912
>Mr. Magoo his way through
The shooter didn't have a criminal record
Was never violent
I don't see how he wiggled his way through. He grew up with guns.

>>28439897
Basically this I believed in buttfuck stupid gun control legislation too until I did some research and stopped responding to tragedies with what felt right rather than what was.

>>28439938
If it's Trump v Hillary or god forbid Sanders, who would you honestly rather have?

>>28439938
Paul isn't going to get the nomination.

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>>28439885
Friendly fucking reminder that there is

>spooky bedtime story threads
>movie threads
>video game threads

On this board 4 times a day. But as soon as talking about guns if the government is involved

>THIS HERE IS /K/ YOU TAKE ALL THAT POLITICS STUFF OVER TO /POL/ YA HEAR?

Fuck off you dindu

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So what are the laws/restrictions then? Could omeone sum em up for me? I cant bring myself to watch a video of a nigger shedding crocodile tears to push an agenda...

>>28439879
The United States is the safest it's ever been lmao. What, you think in the 60's when dem uppity negroes got segregation rightfully shitcanned the US became a hell hole?

>>28439886
then why of all places does he bring up chicago ? Is he really that daring to use a city that ban guns as an exemple to why guns should be banned ?

>>28439957
I'll take trump over shillary but I'll take sanders over trump. There are more issues than gus when it comes to elections. Bernie won't guns and won't be any worse than obama. He will be better than obama.

>>28439818
Gun sales are at a all time high, rip no gunz

>>28439993
Won't ban guns*****

>>28439970
Background check when transferring every firearm.

>>28439957
Sanders, he'll be too busy failing to turn the U.s. into Scandinavia to do shit about guns, maybe we'll get lucky and he takes big business out of politics (kek yeah right) and it opens the doors down the road for less polarized, more "logical" middleground presidents in the future instead of these big business backed right/left wing caricatures we always get.

>>28439879
Dang.
Yeah, all of this.

>>28439996
Just a matter of time until they are bannerinod

>>28439948
>borderline sociopath with crazy ass family never gets any kind of mental health checks or counseling and just happens to have access to loadseguns
He just happened to roll snake eyes on life, from what I can figure out. 9.9/10 times someone in the same ir similar situation would have been prevented from reaching the same breaking point - or, that SHOULD be the case, same with all so-called "mass shooters".
Point being, for anyone to take the Sandy Hook incident and try to apply any information from that to any other kind of crime and say there is correlation is fucking idiotic.

That's frankly like me saying that the Challenger disaster is why we shouldn't be going to space. Freak fucking disaster but now we're supposed to believe that there's some kind of pattern to this shit? Fuck that.

>>28439976
Yes, he's a retard liberal. Wtf do you expect?

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>>28439993
Yeah, let's just expand ignoring due process because of MY FEELINGS. There's no way that'll touch guns.

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>>28439993
>>28440010
>literal socialist
>wants us to be like europe
>has gun control voting history
>BLACK LIVES MATTER
>FREE EVERYTHING

great idea, much better than obama

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kek I told you faggots they were going to do backdoor gun confiscation with mental health as the scapegoat

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>>28439975
Not sure what your point is, but it looks about the same to me.

The NICS system is a pointless intrusion upon our civil liberties, even if the FBI is still playing by its own rules.

>>28439912
The term "Mental Health" is meaningless to me.
There's no study that can point to a proper amount of chemicals in the brain.
There's no universally accepted ethics.
Either you have health defects or you don't.
It's a scapegoat term for how astronomically we have failed this country and this world.
No amount of gun legislation will stop someone from going out and killing. With the right knowledge and supplies, you can kill.
Fuck this liberals, and fuck people who advocate "common sense" gun laws.
Suppressors aren't dangerous.
Short Barreled Rifles aren't dangerous.
A tank isn't dangerous.
Politicians are.

>>28439948
> find the future mass killer
the guy who drew this. I can totally see horsey shooting a bunch of people that fit a look that he doesn't like. That's basically all leftists ever do when they get into power.

>>28440021
If by a matter of time you mean hundreds of of years sure.

>>28440032
Terrorists shouldn't have access to guns in america. Are you saying they should? Are you trolling or are you this fucking retarded.

>>28440050
key word "potential"

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>>28439993
>Voting for the Gibs Me Dat candidate

>>28440024
The way he got lucky was that he went of the radar for 3 years. He dropped out of college and stayed in the basement for 3 while there were guns everywhere and his mind was deteriorating. The guns should have been taken out of the house when they noticed something was not right.

This is all theatre, though. The actual legislation is toothless.

>>28440055
You're an idiot. Take your tinfoil hat off. Are you a goat fucker? No? Then don't worry about it. Are you a goat fucker? Yes? Then kill yourself

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>>28440050
>Restricting rights without any sort of conviction or due process
>Being okay with this
I'm gonna go with you being this fucking retarded.

>>28440048
Are you fucking stupid. 2016 senpai

>>28440045
>The term "Mental Health" is meaningless to me.
Then you're a contrarian or else a child.
I don't support backdoor "mental health" gun confiscation nor do I believe that many of the currently recognizes mental disorders/issues are grounds for denying firearms ownership (especially depression, fucking hell suicide itself is a victimless crime), but the fact remains that a large number of problems with American degeneracy, violence, etc issues stem from a relative lack of focus on mental and physical health, paired with a crumbling public education system.

I want to see legislative actions on those fronts more than I want to see free fully automatic silenced shortbarrel machineguns, or whatever ATF buzzword is popular today, deregulated.

>>28440013
Does that mean private sales are kill?
Or does it just mean you now need get an FFL transfer/NICS check through a broker or something for face to face private sales? Because the latter would be.... well it would suck but it wouldnt be as colossal a "fuck you" as getting rid of private sales all together when there is an easy solution.

>>28439948
All white males.

>>28440050
How the fuck do you stop that, any more than you can stop the trafficking of pure 100% cocaine? Why does the entire population of intended victims need to be punished and rendered more vulnerable because of what some bloodthirsty fuckwit *might* do?

What kind of bipedal herd animal are you?

>>28440066
It throws a chill into everybody advertising point to point sales on Gunbroker. As it is intended to.

>>28440113
Disregard this shit. It's all posturing. Keep doing what you have been doing before. There was no congressional law passed.

>>28440113
Just do it through ffl. Why people on this board don't support that is retarded. If you're not a felon then it doesn't fucking matter.

>>28440113
Pretty sure you only need FFL still if you are selling a quantity if guns large enough to be considered a firm. So gun show salesmen (le loophole XD) and such, or if you're unloading several guns at once.

>>28440113
Private sales without a background check are, it would appear, dead.

>>28440132
>If you're not a felon then it doesn't fucking matter.
Will you be saying that when the next restriction comes?

>>28439993
Come on /k/, I thought you guys were based. When did you fags become liberal cucks?

>>28440131
>implying legistlation on guns wont grown and grown

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Should I panic buy right now? I'm looking for a Glock 19.

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>>28439866
I fucking hope for the sake of humanity this is sarcasm

>>28440132
>let's pass legislation that inconveniences law abiding citizens just because. Won't you think of the children?
Fuck off

>>28440148
Yeah, fuck you, I'll keep doing what I have always been doing.

>>28440085

Okay, you're definitely an infiltrator/shill.

Nobody respond to his posts.

>>28439860
Dumbass's got a point.

>>28440132
>why do people hate wasting money and time

no idea man its a crazy world

>>28440169
There are groups amassing ammo and weapons right now to take back the country if guns are banned and martial law is installed permanently.

>>28439818

cry more king bitch nigger and go the fuck away

>>28440148
No. Joe Blow selling a gun to his neighbor is fine. Joe Blow selling his "collection" of 483 identical Glocks at every gun show in a 300 mile radius, is not.

>>28440186
Which is what? if you mean you will continue to transfer firearms and disregard the new laws, you are not doing the same thing. Now you would be committing a crime for material gain.

>>28440132
>If you have nothing to hide, why do you need privacy?

>Modestly expands background checks, which is supported by something like 80-90% of the public, completely legally through executive action
>"FUCKING GUN GRABBING NIGGER EXECUTIVE GUN GRAB FUCKING INNAWOODS 1776 PART 2 LIBERAL FUCKING MONKEY"

Never change /polk/

Statistically we should prevent the sale of guns to black thugs oh wait they get guns illegally anyways and this law does shit to stop that. Mentally ill people are most often the victims of violence rather then the offenders but please don't stop logic from obscuring your liberal sensibilities.

>>28440226
>tfw my retired af colonel grandfather actually said that

>>28440222
>disregard the new laws
>laws
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>this thread

Day/k/are open longer today?

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Soon.

>>28440041
>it's my civil liberty to commit crimes in peace without that pesky government keeping track of them!

>>28440014
>unironically voting for a fucking commie.
Burn in hell libfag. Get off my board.

>>28439818
what a little bitch of a president we have

Are we being raided by reddit again?

>>28439993
>i'll take an economic illiterate, obsessed with pandering to any and all special snowflake faggots who believes only hunting firearms should be legal and we should apologize for slavery over, a brash pro-gun business man because muh Mexicans, muh bankruptcy and le rich are ebil memes.
>also dude free lmao

>>28439879

>Because it's insulting to want to buy a .22 for your son or your brother and have both of you prove that you're not violent criminals.

Sorry that you feel insulted by a check that makes sure you're not a violent felon before you purchase a firearm. You'll get over it, unlike people who are murdered by gun crime.


>Because when foreign religious fascists murder people at a Christmas party, the reaction of my government and the media and vast swathes of the urban population is to call for my head on a pike.

Waaaaaaaa, your life is sooooo haaaaarrrrdddddd.

>>28439818
Don't usually visit /k/ but I saw this and what a bullshit appeal to emotion it was.

Good luck weathering the storm.

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>>28440296

>>28440243
the Young republican club got access to the computer lab.

>>28440296
>makes sure you're not a violent felon before you purchase a firearm.
What the fuck happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?
>You'll get over it, unlike people who are murdered by gun crime.
People who are murdered by gun crime don't give a fuck about my 10/22, they're busy bleeding out from Jamal's illegally acquired Hi-Point. Legally bought firearms are used in less than 1% of crime.
Why are you punishing the innocent majority for the actions of the criminal minority

>>28440227
>80-90% support
Stop reading wall street journal or Washington post for your "facts"

>>28440258
I'll take you outside and fuck you in the street, bootlicking fascist shitlord.
You'll enjoy it so much you'll be voting for Nader 2016, queerbait.

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>>28440222
>>28440227
>The executive branch makes laws guiz

Literally the only thing he did was give money to the feds and atf, which is outside the scope of EO's. Which as a result is going to push congress to try and defund both.

OH NOES YOU NEED A BACKGROUND CHECK WHEN YOU BUY A GUN AT A GUN SHOW!!!1

Relax faggots, we've needed this for years. It's bullshit a felon or psychopath can go to a gun show and subvert federal laws.

>>28440296
Take a good look at this, Redditfag. What category accounts for more than half of all homicides? What category accounts for half as many people as fistfights?

Source: FBI.gov
Expanded Homicide Data Table 3
Murder Offenders by Age, Sex, and Race, 2011
White 4,729
Black 5,486
Other 256
Unknown 4077

Expanded Homicide Data Table 11
Murder Circumstances
by Weapon, 2011
Total: 12,664
Total firearms: 8583
Handguns: 6220
Rifles: 323
Shotguns: 356
Knives or cutting instruments: 1694
Personal weapons (hands/feet): 726

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>>28440324
>What the fuck happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?

This guy, probably hasn't even read the Bill of Rights.

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>>28439885

1. All gun sellers must make background checks, don't matter were you are.
2. Making it harder for people with criminal history to buy high power weapons.
3. Making the background checks more effecient
4. Making ATF bigger hiring 200 more agents to process background checks
5. Making sure more gun sellers report if guns are stolen or lost.

>inb4 rip guns

>>28440373
The average smalltime seller at a gun show is a lot pickier about who they sell to than the average wage slave at some sporting goods store ("duhh, the background check said he was okay").

Also, how many of the murders in >>28440376
were conducted by someone who bought a gun at a gunshow from a small seller?

>>28440373
Why would I relax , felons can still buy guns regardless than all they have to say is "see it's not enough". Give them a inch and they take a mile.

>>28440106
>Calls names
>doesn't refute point
Okay.
You know where the violent crime is?
It's in the south, in the same places where welfare is rampant and where all violent crime is rampant. It's a black community problem.

Statistics aren't racist. FBI statistics aren't racist. You can check me on all of this. Blacks are the vast majority of violent crime producers. They are much more likely to kill and harm people than any other racial group. They account for half of all deaths in the US and only make up 13% of the population. Look at a heat map of Black population density, Welfare density, and violent crime density. Get back to me and tell me I'm wrong. Maybe we should ask why they're so much more prone to these crimes than anyone else and fix that problem first.

>>28440373
>Hey gang banger Steve I need a firearm. Can I buy from you
>Sure dirtbag joe, but first let me do this background check
Yep, sounds like it'll work

I guess pat burns knew this shit was coming and sold her entire inventory to classic.

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>>28440396
>1. All gun sellers must make background checks, don't matter were you are.
Soooo... no more perfectly legal point to point sales within the same state?

>2. Making it harder for people with criminal history to buy high power weapons.
Criminals aren't eligible to legally buy firearms to begin with, so they don't. Pic related.

>high power
Jesus. It IS Reddit.

>>28440032
>That Doublethink.
Oh shit old man.

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>Hey dirtbag joe were did you get that gun?
>I got it from gang banger steve
>did he do a bg check?
>no
>10 years in jail

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ALRIGHTY BOYS, HAND IN YOUR GUNS NOW!

>>28439938
He's the best candidate behind Rand, who is way too tied in with his fathers tinfoil to do well in the primary

>>28440450
>man I sure am glad they locked up ganger banger Steve after he sold that gun to joe
>Ya but too bad joe shot 30 people before he was taken down

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>2016
>not being the year guns get fucked up the ass

>>28439993
The only good thing about Bernie is that he's so retarded congress will block as much of his shit as possible, and he'll make liberals even more of a laughingstock

>>28440418
Are you misquoting me?
My post had nothing to do with race.

I fucking live in Alabama, I can tell you why nignogs carry out a higher percentage of violent crimes, and it's by and large due to an engrained system of worse-than-third-world education and poverty cycles that has taught them to act like dumbfuck stereotypical niggers.

And guess what? The same education systems do the same to the white, mexican, whatever families that get trapped in them. This is a complex societal and financial problem that has deep roots in the Antebellum and Reconstruction-era South, and can't be answered by just saying "hurr niggers gonna nig"

Statistics aren't racist, true, but believing that the causation lies in race because there's a racial correlation is fucking moronic.

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>>28440495
>But they are America and you are the captor.

This had better not affect trusts with the corporation part

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>>28440495
>gun lobby
This shit pisses me off. Imagine if we had politicians calling out the "free speech" lobby or the "privacy" lobby. The NRA is literally just people who want the government to stop fucking with their funs.

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>>28440495
>mfw he needs to ask congress for the funbux for his plan

>>28440106
>suicide is a victimless crime
Stopped reading right there.

>>28440585
this 2bh

>>28440479
>guy commits murder
>goes to prison or chair

America's low homicide rate testifies to the effectiveness of our laws.

Moreover, many of our murders occur in urban areas (which tend to have MORE gun control) and are committed by shitskins. I think we need to address the racial question before the gun one, given that a smaller percentage of firearms owners commit murders than blacks.

>>28440555
the best person to actually help that situation is Bernie Sanders, and this is gun control debates aren't allowed on /k/ cause now we are talking about non-weapon related politics.

>>28440585
Prove me wrong kid.
No, paying for a funeral does not make you a victim.
Neither does feeling sad. An individual has their own right to life, if they choose to die then their right does not end where your feelings begin.

>>28440341
Underrated post

>>28440585

But it is.

>>28440604
>the best person to actually help that situation is Bernie Sanders
>any presidential candidate
>helping anything
Fuck it in all honesty, I'm just saving money until I can expatriate to some Euro country and live innawoods while Hajji enriches the cities.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

>>28439915
Is there anything that can be none to get rid of that shitty rule?

Im so sick and fucking tired of it

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>>28440600
>America's low homicide rate testifies to the effectiveness of our laws.

nigga what?

>>28440608
Regardless of anyone's right to die, I consider anyone who chooses suicide a victim of suicide. Anyone traumatized by their death is also a victim of suicide. "Kid."

>>28439818

>cant own guns chicago
>kids in columbine used hipoint carbines that use ammunition they themselves couldnt buy legally
>the shooter in newtown stole all of his guns

also the massive elephant that nobody seems to notice is that they all took place is gun free zones

>but we need more laws
>the gun personally killed those kids

at least he hasnt introduced any assault weapons ban and he knows if he introduced an assault weapons via executive action there would be a damn civil war

>>28440653
>expecting a country with a massive population below the poverty line not to have a higher homicide rate
Also, other countries report homicides differently than U.S., some only conclude homicide if a verdict is ruled in court

>>28440604
Bernie Sanders just said Obamas gun control today wasn't enough in a interview. Fuck your ultra liberal idols. I remember years ago Sanders was one of the only left leaning members in congress that was mildly pro gun. Today he might as well be Clinton herself.

>>28440653
Euro countries only report homicides the year the killer is convicted

>>28439818
Doesn't look like they're disarming people just more thorough background checks for purchases.

>>28439818
>Those rights were stripped from college kids in Blacksburg and Santa Barbara, from high schoolers in Columbine, and from first graders in Newtown. First graders. And from every family who never imagined their loved ones would be taken from our lives from a bullet, from a gun.
What a commie faggot. Your rights don't end with your death.

>>28440669
>I consider anyone who chooses suicide a victim of suicide.
Your consideration means jack shit. You write laws now? Fix this gun control bullshit then
>Anyone traumatized by their death is also a victim of suicide
Traumatization isn't a crime you tumblrina. At most you'd have grounds for a civil suit - with a dead person

>>28440653
Europe doesn't have enough nigger cities yet. They are seriously working to correct the issue.

>>28439818
>Niggers and criminals buy guns illegally through black market
>HOWZ ABOUTZ I CLOSE DA GUN SHOW LEWP WHOLE TO PREVENTZ DA PEEPULL DATZ NOT BUYIN GUNZ LEGALLY FROM BUYIN GUNZ
>ITZ ALL OK MUH ANCESTAHZ WUZ KANGS AN SHIET I KNOWZ HOWZ TO RUN A GUBZMINT

>>28440713
AY YO HOL UP
*smacks lips*
SO U BE SAYIN
*jives instinctively*
SO U BE SAYIN
*gets down on it*
WE WUS POTUS AN SHEEIT?
*abandons family*

>>28440713
>I KNOWZ HOWZ TO RUN A GUBZMINT
B-but Rhodesia...

>>28440579

>uhhh let me be clear
>uhhhh weneed2milliondollars uhhhhh to enforce uhhh the laws tostopthegunshowloophole and uhhhh keep our children safe
>but the gun show loophole literally does not exits we are not going to take money from the taxpayer to enforce a law that will do nothing but pay atf agents to sit on their asses

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>>28439818
And the right to defend that life was stripped by gun free zones.

This man has the gall to talk about innocents being killed when there is a White House backed action to kill people overseas in countries we're not at war with based solely on suspicion, all while killing bystanders, many of whom were children. Yeah, keep "saving the children", you mouth-breathing, disingenuous, hypocritical piece of human garbage.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

Every word out of Obama's mouth has been crafted to mislead and deceive. He also deliberately ignored a study ordered by him specifically after Newtown because god forbid, it went against his agenda.

>>28440227

The 90% figure comes from a cherry picked study providing no context as to what UBCs are, or how they'll be enforced. Private sales aren't a loophole, they're an exception.

>>28440450
Background checks are constitutional of course, because they're just checking if you've been previously adjudicated as mentally unstable or having criminal history. However UBCs are useless, unenforceable crap legislation. A law isn't worth having unless you can actually enforce it, and by the time you get imprisoned for not filling out a BC, the crime's already committed, and someone's dead. Try going for the root causes and motivation of crime instead.

>Inb4 WHY HAVE ANY LAWS AT ALL; I WATCH THE DAILY SHOW
Show me an effective law, and explain how it'll be enforced.

>>28440653
Did you know that Eurocuck countries deliberately under-report crime?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3378985/Police-Germany-covering-extent-migrant-crime-claim-Bild-country-revealed-taken-1-1-MILLION-people-2015.html

https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmic/news/news-feed/crime-recording-a-matter-of-fact-interim-report/

>>28439830
>rare
sorry buddy but mass shootings are not "rare" in the US no matter how hard you try to rationalize it

I don't want your rights taken away either, but shit let's be honest here

>>28440032
He's senile or something.

>>28440653
> comparing the us to whiter nations
I will disregard any comparisons to nations that do not have at least 12.2% nignogs and 16.4% hispanics.

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WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?EVERYTHINGS GONNA GET EXPENSIVE NOW!
>inb4 poorfag
WHAT THE FUCK OBAMA!?! WHY CANT YOU JUST ENJOY THE WHITE HOUSE AND TAKE A VACATION? OH GUN NO MORE GUNS UNDER $500! WHY GOD WHY?!

>>28440777
>340 million people
>less than 200 people a year die due to "mass shootings"
sounds like an anomaly to me

>>28440577
what am i looking at here?

None of these measures prevent anyone on /k/ from buying any gun that they could have bought last week.

What's the issue here?

>>28440777
You can't even formulate an accurate description for what constitutes a "mass shooting" because, guess what? They're statistical fucking anomalies and heavily sensationalized by the media

>>28440777
Compared to all other firearm related crimes yes, yes it is you faggot. Just because you got trips doesn't make you right.

>>28440688
>Gun control legislation should ultimately fall on individual states, with the exception of instant background checks to prevent firearms from finding their way into the hands of criminals and the mentally ill

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>>28439835
I decided trump got my vote for sure when I opened mailbox one day, he is my wrecking ball.

>>28440755
Funny, Rhodesia was doing fine when it was being run co-operatively by whites and blacks

>>28440766
>many of whom were children.
"children" (read under 21 years old)

>>28440704
While the irony of suicide being illegal isn't lost on me, legality has little to do with whether something does or does not create victims. Example: your own words can be hurtful to anons who are thereby victimized. Shut up I'm not crying I was just chopping onions.

>>28440811
quite literally because it's been proposed by "King Nigger"

>>28440823
That's the joke.

>>28439993
I would vote for any candidate over Sanders.
And he has said multiple times that no one should own guns that aren't used for hunting.
Socialism is a disease that has killed 100,000,000 people in the last 100 years and has always supported disarming the populace.

>>28440832
>legality has little to do with whether something does or does not create victims.
Please be fucking joking. You sound exactly like tumblr trying to change the dedinition of rape

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>>28440790
Time to sell my brand new SCAR i have been keeping in storage for bazillion dollars and then buying full auto PKMs when Trump becomes God emperor.

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>>28440846
Forgot my picture.

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IT'S 2016 GUYS I MEAN COME ON IT'S 2016 YOU WHITES ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH GUNS

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>>28440806
>>28440813
>>28440814
http://www.shootingtracker.com/wiki/Main_Page

Mass shooting - "Broadly speaking, the term refers to an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence"

Face facts
I'm progun
you fuckers are delusional

>>28440846
>wanting gun regulation to be local
>HEZ WANTS TA TAKE MUH FUNS

>>28440807
Lightning link, it could be used to make older ARs full auto

>>28440868
>I'm progun
No you're not.

>you fuckers are delusional
No, we merely disagree.

>>28440868
>"Broadly speaking, the term refers to an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence"
Well considering that 2 or more Americans is a lot of mass that would make sense

>>28440868
>You're wrong
http://wearechange.org/why-have-there-been-more-mass-shootings-under-obama-than-the-previous-four-presidents-combined/

>>28440854
Kill yourself then. I'm so fucking done with you.

Someone please explain what the issue is here

>I can still buy any gun that I could have earlier
>I still have to pass a background check

>>28440872
No, he supports a full AWB you commie fuck.
And he supported the last one.

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>>28440882
KEK
noice

you got me there

>>28440868
Even liberals have called that "source" out as the bullshit it is.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/no-there-were-not-355-mass-shootings-this-year

>>28440891
its just children acting up

>>28440893
>AWB now encompases all weapons.

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>>28440868
We need to separate the term its to broad and has heavy implications even when its only like three people. Don't get me wrong that is pretty bad but we need to create additional categories.

Like if the shooter gets more then 5 kills then we can have the ticker taper on the tv say something like MEGAKILL and they get 10 or more its an ULTRAKILL.

>>28440887
Fun fact for you.
4 months ago, my little sister stole my moms gun and blew her head off and I found her.
Imagine going to your parents house after work, having to break down you little sisters door and seeing her brains on the floor of her closet.
I'm not a victim, she isn't alive to be a victim, guns aren't responsible.
you using suicide without knowing a fucking thing about it makes you a liberal tool.

>>28440653
>Never mind the fact that non-hispanic whites in the US have a homicide rate of ~1.5

>>28440887
Next time try presenting actual arguments concerning Constitutional legality instead of getting butthurt

>>28440923
I wouldn't put it past the media to use quake sounds.

>>28439938
>>28439938
>muh ebil 1%er
nice leddit meme

he's abolishing income taxes for the poorest 50% of citizens

He mentions the one Chinese knife attack on a school where no one died. Did not mention the other chinese knife attack where dozens died and hundreds were injured.

He is mainly doing this to bait the GOP. Everything sounds so reasonable on the surface. So he wants them to be against it all.o make the Republicans look unreasonable.

>>28440925
>look at me, look at muh feels
Fuck off faggot, just call him a faggot for not being able to use logic or understand the meaning of statistics and move on.

>>28440868
So a double homicide or homicide/suicide is a mass shooting? Great classification.

>>28440891
It's more about if you actively trade firearms, selling buying selling and buying to sell, you need a FFL and run a background check.

You can still, apparently, sell from your own collection to anyone without an FFL or background check. I can still sell my neighbor my glock 19 if I wanted like before. I can even do it online if I wanted.

Trust for suppressors seems to be a thing of the past. Something about needing a background check and fingerprints for everyone in the trust to have a suppressor.


*As far as I understand*

>>28440916
Yes, an AWB does encompass all weapons because the government, who wants to take those weapons away, gets to decide what is and is not an "assault weapon", which is already A MADE UP TERM YOU STUPID RETARD!

>>28440014
>trusting a jew who shilled against auditing the fed, and is funded by every corrupt union out there to get money out of politics

lmao

>>28440938
The provide a fucking source for that bullshit.

>>28439938
>not 'jet fuel can't melt steel beams'

>>28440868
Dude that entire website's methodology of categorizing mass shootings is broad as fuck.

>>28440946
>You're point is valid
>You're a faggot anyway
Okay

>>28440928
are Hispanics now not american? or are you just clinging onto irrational ideas that certain races are inferior to others?

this is why we don't have gun control debates on this board.

>>28440970
go to his website and actually read his positions, rather than leddit/shitter/fagbook memespouting

>>28440916

>awb now encompasses all weapons

the awb of 2015 does.

>>28439938
I just want to watch the world burn

>>28440970
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

>>28440984
>this is why we don't have gun control debates on this board
But we can have them on the board that unironically supports racism? What?

>>28440923

>he kills 25 people
GODLIKE

>>28439849
its ok hes just going to replace guns with drones

>>28441000
if you wanted that you'd vote for shillary or bernie glassberg

trump never wanted to go into Iraq, and wants Russia to deal with ISIS
(ie: he has a fucking brain/isn't a military-industrial complex shill)

>>28441007
Oh. Nice. I was wrong anon. Trump 2016 it is.

>>28441009
BECAUSE WE ARE NOW ON RACE THEORY AND CRIME INSTEAD OF WEAPONS. this is politics, not weapons.

>>28439948
Horsey.

>>28439975
And what's funny is their grand kids are pushing for resegregation, in the form of "black only" spaces.
Orval Faubus is watching with glee.

>>28441031
Yet no one bitches about game, movie, muh operator music, and book threads. Fuck off retard nigger faggot

>>28441029
its a horrible tax plan, we can't sustain any sort of government on that kind of tax plan.

>be murican
>be maybe only allowed to own pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns and machine pistols in the future
>'muh family is virtually already raped by Mexicans who will break into my house'

>>28440925
Why was your little sister able to access your mothers gun? Why wasn't she taught not to fuck around with firearms? If she was suicidal why didn't she receive help? Sounds to me like your mom's an irresponsible cunt.

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Alright, reddit, /b/, 9gag, et al, here's the deal:
Even if it resulted in the death of every last precious little chillun, no, we won't support gun control. Luckily, such a choice never existed to begin with. Gun control does not work. It will never work. It's a convenient scapegoat for nignogs nignogging. Fuck your gun control. Fuck your shilling. Not a single inch will be given. The slippery slope stops here.

Welcome to /k/, now get out!

>>28440065
Or maybe they should have been able to take him out of the house to get help.

>>28440984
but they are inferior

hispanics and blacks get lower test scores and are far more violent than whites even adjusting for poverty

>>28441045
Compared to Bernies' TAX THE RICHEST AT 90%%%%!!@~

>>28441045
Maybe not. But at least he is mentioning he wants cut taxes

>>28441080
Also cutting ridiculous amounts of rampant unneeded spending helps as well.

Gun control doesn't work at all.

t. Brasil

>>28441045
I don't think anyone here has access to any data to argue for or against this baseless claim.

>>28441046
>owning a hunting rifle
>oh anon why do you need a rifle to hunt? Just go to the supermarket you don't need guns to hunt anyways you silly goose

>>28440220
After that they'll come for joe blow
It's all incremental

>>28441045
you must have missed the part where he's the only candidate from either party thaat has brought up the fact that corporations are stashing around 3 trillion dollars overseas (corporate inversions) - he's the only person that has proposed a solution to bringing this money back

he's also the only one who's spoken about the US's huge foreign trade deficits and the fact that 95 million americans are out of work because their jobs have gone overseas or have been replaced by cheap foreigners on HB1/HB2 visas

>>28441009
Why do people misinterpret racial/national statistics that don't conform to their beliefs as racist?

Almost no one thinks that non-whites are inferior to whites for being non-white. Its just an understanding that the majority of non-whites are statistically inferior inferior in pretty much every way. Genetics (geographic ethnicity matters, not race) plays a role, but it's mostly a cultural thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_bKJ11O0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6IJV_0p64s

There are examples of successful people who are every type of non-white. But the same level of success is proportionally more likely in white/asians, because of the impacts of culture and education.


>tl;dr anyone who says genetics dont impact humans is being intellectually dishonest or genuinely misinformed.
>tl;dr tl;dr dumb niggers exist because of the phrase 'uncle tom'

>>28439993
Obama voters said the same you dumb fuck

Are you a freshman at a liberal arts college too?

>>28441014
>100 people
HOLY SHIT
>100,000
CONQUERING!
>500,000
GENOCIDE!
>1,000,000
MIDDLE EAST!
>6,000,000+
RECORD BREAKING!

>>28440868

>ShootingTracker

That's a confirmed MDA/Brady Shill site with questionable methodology and a political agenda.

And hey look, it's got our favorite /k/ommandos listed!

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/452120

>Incident Characteristics
>Hate crime

Hate crime... suuurreeeeee. Give me a break.

>>28441126
>he's the only person that has proposed a solution to bringing this money back
Actually Rand Paul has a solution, it's actually quite good.
It goes something like this, "14.5% flat tax".

>>28440577
The anti-gunners are in absolute denial that people could actually want guns. Their only explanation for why their laws are being blocked is that the Big Bad NRA Gun Lobby is manipulating politicians. And then at the same time we have Bloomberg and other rich politicians attempting to create their own """grass roots""" anti-gun movement

>>28440418
>You know where the violent crime is?
>It's in the south, in the same places where welfare is rampant and where all violent crime is rampant. It's a black community problem.
Chicago is in the south?

>>28441139
Obama was fast tracked through the Democrat party, dumbass, look at his campaign donors for the 2008/2012 elections

he was always a political establishment puppet - the only people shilling for obama were muh end to rayshism drones


>>28441159
sounds similar to Trump

I like Rand, but he has no support and no chance to be president

>>28440811
I still want to read the language on the order, if hearsay is correct a limit of 2 sales ok but 3 means you need an FFL is asinine. the Funding part he has no authority to push.

My issue is that instead of addressing simply the fact that the existing laws still aren't getting enforced means more money to not enforce more laws that are identical to laws that exist alread ...

>>28441145
>6,000,000
M-M-MONSTER KILL

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>all the unsourced "facts" in these threads
that's why they're not allowed here you dirty neckbeards
>HURRRR DID YOU KNOW BLACK PEOPLE, OR "NIGGERS," AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, COMMIT 99% OF CRIMES
>DURRR ONLY .000001% OF CRIMES WERE DONE BY LEGALLY PURCHASED FIREARMS
>MUH TOUPEE GOD
>MUH WHITE PARADISE

who are the mentally ill ones in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwytoxMuk4U

>>28439938
>1% propaganda.

get the fuck off this board with your communist bullshit

>>28441181
>>>tumblr

>>28441172
>I like Rand, but he has no support and no chance to be president
Why can't a constitutionalist ever be president?

>>28440148
No, you're all fucking retarded, you have never been allowed to be in BUSINESS selling guns without an FFL. Obama's order changes nothing.

>>28441172
>sounds similar to Trump
It also sounds similar to cruz and rubio.
Everyone is stealing rands shit and just paying lip service.

>>28439879
One of the few times I have read something you wrote that I agree 100% with you on.

>>28439818
>right to life and happiness

Nowhere is that in the constitution or a codified right.

>>28440411
>Also, how many of the murders in >>28440376
>were conducted by someone who bought a gun at a gunshow from a small seller?
In my country 70% of illegal firearms on the street are purchasesd LEGALLY in the US and smuggled across the border- and the proportion is a lot higher for handguns and probably assault pattern rifles (which is a real thing, an assault rifle modified to be semi-auto is still a modified assault rifle,) which are difficult to acquire legally.
http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2013/04/19/the_gun_pipeline_mules_who_bring_firearms_across_border_pay_high_price_for_fast_money.html
>2009
>Toronto police seized 861 crime guns in the city
>at least 70 per cent smuggled in from the U.S
>any gun that is illegally possessed or is seized in relation to a criminal act

You know why gun control works for Australia and the UK, and not us? They don't share a 5000km with the shittiest country in the first world.

>>28441191
>Why can't a constitutionalist ever be president?
Because support needs to be built at the ground level: cities, counties, and states. Until then, the current parties call the shots.

>>28441191
because they are seen as crazy pshyco manson tier people for some reason. And also the majority of dumb fucks would gladly give up their rights in mass if it meant "haha you cant say nigger anymore and you have to accept i have a pussy where my dick used to be"

>>28441191
look at his poll and social media numbers, he has no support

Rand doesn't have his father's charisma

Ron would've been great, but was nuked by the mainstream media and didn't have the Trumpbux to maintain momentum

>>28441209
cruz and rubio are establishment shills, only GOPdrones want to vote for those cucks


also no, Trump didn't copy Rand

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This might require a new thread, but I'll try here first.

So how does this shit affect Hollis? I haven't had time to read the order itself, but it sounded like Obama was going to fuck with the wording about "trusts" in the way Hollis is alleging (read: demonstrating) is illegal even before the order. Or is this different somehow? Does this undermine anything?

>>28440376
BAN ASSAULT FISTS

https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download

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My god, everyone in this thread is retarded!
You have NEVER been allowed to be in the BUSINESS of selling firearms without an FFL. Normal private sales are still legal, this changes nothing!

>>28439975
>segregation rightfully shitcanned the US became a hell hole?
>segregation rightfully shitcanned
>rightfully
... Are you fucking retarded?
Getting segregation declared unconstitutional was the beginning of the the 14th amendment being a legal blank check whose only requirement was that someone feel different than someone else.

Oh gee someone isn't obeying the law, and we don't like that... That must mean the law is unconstitutional, not that people are just breaking a law...

>>28441191
Because people who are incapable of interpreting the situation and blindly implement obsolete policy are fucking retarded.

>There's an emergency and you need to make an executive order
>Sorry gotta wait for congress to approve it, national policy, outta my control

>>28440925

Could have been slit wrist drank some drano or hung herself the gun didn't kill she killed herself

>>28441255
literally says in the EO if you sell a gun to someone without sending them through NICS you will face the consequences of the law. you retard.

>>28441234
>Trump didn't copy Rand
Look at the dates...

>>28441269
so yes, it does change you bumbling fuck wit.

>>28441216
>In my country 70% of illegal firearms on the street are purchasesd LEGALLY in the US and smuggled across the border
Bullshit, you dumb fucking beaner. 70% of the guns that your corrupt fucking government asks our guys to run a background check on come from the US. The vast majority of the time they don't bother.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/apr/16/sorting-out-truth-about-guns-mexico/

>>28440925
My cousin died in a horrible shaving accident. Tried to shave his inside right thigh with a steak knife, slipped, fell, sliced open his femoral artery and bled out in the bathtub. His wife found him. She knew he was accident prone, he had the scars to prove it. Yeah she was sad but she dealt with it.

>>28441255
a govt list for 'mentally ill'* people, for the sake of infringing on their gun rights is absolutely fucked

*anyone who's ever had drugs or therapy paid by insurance

do you really trust the govt to decide what 'mental illness' means? Do you think they'll stop at guns?

>>28439948

Oh, fuck off Horsey, you fucking idiot. I was a loner and a juggalo who got picked on a bunch all throughout school and I never committed a mass shooting. I had easy access to firearms too. You know why I didn't? Because I'm not a crazy kid whose parents pumped him full of pills.

>>28441287
hopefully they call this guy metally ill and take his guns because hes a le reddit retard.

>>28441216
>You know why gun control works for Australia and the UK, and not us? They don't share a 5000km with the shittiest country in the first world.
I mean, I wouldn't call Mexico first world, but you're entitled to your beliefs

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>>28441277
>Tried to shave his inside right thigh with a steak knife

>>28441216
gun control didn't work in the UK

>>28440212
What does that have to do with my question?

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>>28441276
>Toronto
>Mexico
I wish I could gather all tripfags into a barn, lock the doors, and burn it to the ground

>>28441313
That is the story the police gave us. Pretty sure no one believed it, but that is the official story.

>>28441216

>which is a real thing, an assault rifle modified to be semi-auto is still a modified assault rifle,

What the fuck am I reading? There are no "modifications". Those guns are DESIGNED to be semi-auto.

Go to bed torontofag.

>>28441277

Wait, what? Hire do you shave with a steak knife?

>mfw serrations

>>28441216
Don't like it here? Move to Australia, the UK or some other liberal shithole. You will enjoy it more there, and we will enjoy not having you here. Everyone wins.

>>28441269
No, it says if you're in the business of selling firearms

>IN THE BUSINESS!

>>28441216
There are several things your country could do:
1) build a wall
2) let the people legally defend themselves with firearms
3) admit gun control does not, and never will, work, and repeal their shitty gun control
4) overhaul their educational system because gun control didn't work in the UK or Australia and semiautomatic rifles aren't assault rifles (not even modified assault rifles) you fuckwit.

>>28440868
>implying jamal sprayin up da block and hitting more than 3 monkeys is a mass shooting

fuck off spook

>>28441331
Yes, buy your shit now because prices are going to go up.

>>28441394
>A person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms regardless of the location in which firearm transactions are conducted. For example, a person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms even if the person only conducts firearm transactions at gun shows or through the Internet. Those engaged in the business of dealing in firearms who utilize the Internet or other technologies must obtain a license, just as a dealer whose business is run out of a traditional brick-and-mortar store.

Dosnt matter who you are cockfag

So are you fuckers just going to complain online or are you going to actually do something about it?

>>28441428
Better solution. Could we get you guys to nuke Toronto?

>>28441460
>So are you fuckers just going to complain online or are you going to actually do something about it?

Your post is a call to arms that most will not answer, I am quite sorry to say.

>>28441460
My state is pretty set with decent gun rights. Let this go to the courts.

>>28440807
Bottle opener. I have the same one on my key ring. Extras in the safe in case it breaks

>>28441450
>engaged in the business of dealing in firearms
>in the business
>business

>>28441394
Also

>Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators. There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.” For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.

>trusting the government to not come after you and saying "yup, he sold a gun, thats in the business".
>trusting governemnt
>government
>trusting

Move to the U.K. if you hate your rights and get off /k/

>>28441460
I don't have to do anything, this has already been the law for years

>>28441007
Holy shit. This is incredibly sensible tax reform. Wow.

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>not voting for trump
>not voting to protect your gun rights
>voting democrats
>2016

gunfags are full blown retarded like getting sig braces ban.

>>28441496
This was already the law, you fucking retard.There has never been a specific threshold to be considered "in the business" of selling firearms, don't buy guns with the intent to sell them and you'll be fine, just like everyone else has been for the fast 20 years. Obama's order is a non issue, he's just reminding local prosecutors that the law exists at all.

>>28439835
But Trump hates freedom too.

I mean, if it's down to him versus Hillary, I'd hold my nose and vote for Trump, but then I'd probably spend the next month repenting. Literally the only one worth voting for is Rand Paul, and his campaign is basically dead barring divine intervention.

>>28439818
>"This is not a plot to take away everyone's guns."
Thats exactly what someone who was trying to take away our guns would say.

>>28441559
>But Trump hates freedom too.
Prove it
>Literally the only one worth voting for is Rand Paul, and his campaign is basically dead barring divine intervention.
Guess it's time to commit suicide

>>28441559
>Trump hates freedom


>implying
he's a huge 2nd amendment advocate - in fact he carries himself

This whole thread is retarded. We keep giving them inches and they are going to keep taking miles. But hey, this is a reddit thread so I wouldnt expect anything more.

>>28439957

I would willing vote Obama for a 3rd term (if that was legal) over Hillary or Sanders.

Preferably, Cruz or Trump. Get them both on a ticket and you're guaranteed a win.

>>28441589
>We keep giving them inches and they are going to keep taking miles
I agree 100%, but what can we do (aside from wait for Trump to overturn all these b.s. EO's)

>>28441559
Every time someone says something negative about Trump they fail to provide a source to back their claims.

>>28441069
Let's assume that you're right and and you're not just reading off of a >>>/pol/ infograph.

So what? Despite their deficiencies as a GROUP, their rights as INDIVIDUALS are not subject to the whims of a group until they are convicted in a court of law.

>>28441096
>Actually counting on the berning man to cut spending.

Holy mother of fucking keks.

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Im worried about number 3. When I was an angsty teen I took depression meds for a bit but I dont remember why. I dont even know whats on my med record. Does this mean they are gonna see that now and I wont pass background checks anymore

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>>28441216
Is there any country with a bigger inferiority complex than Canada?

>>28439957
>If it's Trump v Hillary or god forbid Sanders, who would you honestly rather have?
Bernie

>>28441657
Nope. Our population is torn between wanting to be American, and wanting to be European. We as a whole cannot decide whether to emulate our big brother or our parents. My vote is for brother.

>>28441665
>dude free weed lmao

>w-wait where'd my money go

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>>28440868
>Giraffe-neck Asuka

Why is this not a thing I can thing my thing to

While some of this stuff actually makes sense (24/7 NICS availability, upgrading the NICS system to make it more efficient, etc.) there's a lot of horseshit feel-good prose going on there:
Ensure smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws: What the fuck does this even mean?
Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and Department of Homeland Security to take two important steps to promote smart gun technology: Ah, great. Fucking smart gun technology. This shit again.
Remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information to the background check system: Cuz fuck HIPAA, right?
Issue a memo directing every U.S. Attorney’s Office to renew domestic violence outreach efforts: Hey guize, look...they're gonna issue a memo.
Aaaaaaaand my favorite!
Clarify that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks. LOLwut...."in the business of buying and selling firearms" sounds awful damned nebulous and open to selective enforcement. Can't wait to see what arbitrary number or dollar figure is established, and then promptly not enforced anyway.
Ugh. Just ugh. Not one of these things will prevent stolen guns, straw-purchase guns, or guns purchased illegally by felons.

So we should keep following the laws and enforce the existing law...
Did... Did Obama just say what we have been saying for the past 4 years?
I mean, "THIS IS A NEW AND NOVEL APPROACH TO GUN VIOLENCE, I AM GLAD THAT HE HAD THIS ORIGINAL IDEA."
"I Contributed", said Obama.

>>28441516
>doesn't like voting for a democrat
>votes for a democrat

>>28441717
>not voting for bernie to get free guns

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