“Our unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those rights were stripped from college kids in Blacksburg and Santa Barbara, from high schoolers in Columbine, and from first graders in Newtown. First graders. And from every family who never imagined their loved ones would be taken from our lives from a bullet, from a gun.
Every time I think about those kids it gets me mad. And by the way, it happens on the streets of Chicago every day.”
From President Obama’s announcement regarding executive action on guns
>a rare handful of crimes
>I'm only going to name the white shooters
>oh, and maybe some niggers commit the vast majority of gun crime that I plan on doing nothing to stop so we might mention them too :^)
>muh fuckin chilluns
>talking about constitutional rights while spitting in the face of constitutional law
Every day I come closer to voting for Trump.
Someone is going to shoot this man, I just hope he's no longer POTUS when it happens
Just retire, Barrack. Just go the fuck away already.
Sandy Hoax was just that, a hoax. Fuck knows what happened at Columbine, one of the shooters appears to have been an experiment conducted by his father, who works for Army brainwashing people. The nut at the theater was clearly a patsy who reacted to a cell phone call and then just stood around waiting to be taken into custody.
The 2nd Amendment is never to be touched, period. It's not about target shooting. It's about correcting the government when the government goes too far off the rails. Or sells too much of its soul to the bankers.
This EO is just testing the waters to see if he can push harder on Constitutional law surrounding the 2A. If nobody does anything this is going to set a precedence for POTUS to outright ignore the Constitution on the grounds of Executive Order.
Because the metadata from the transaction remains on file and becomes part of a de facto registry.
Because it's insulting to want to buy a .22 for your son or your brother and have both of you prove that you're not violent criminals.
Because we had no such restrictions until 1968 and the country wasn't a violent shithole.
Because when foreign religious fascists murder people at a Christmas party, the reaction of my government and the media and vast swathes of the urban population is to call for my head on a pike.
Sandy Vagina was the work of a mentally unstable man who got lucky and just so happened to Mr. Magoo his way through all societal safety nets intended to keep retards from having firearms.
Like all "mass shootings" it is a statistical anomaly, an outlier from which no relevant information can be taken and applied to any other incident. It is intrinsically alienated from all other gun crimes, and marks a failure of the American mental health system moreso than any failing of firearms law.
>voting for trump
Unless you're in the 1% there is literally no reason to vote for Donald chump.
>Mr. Magoo his way through
The shooter didn't have a criminal record
Was never violent
I don't see how he wiggled his way through. He grew up with guns.
Friendly fucking reminder that there is
>spooky bedtime story threads
>video game threads
On this board 4 times a day. But as soon as talking about guns if the government is involved
>THIS HERE IS /K/ YOU TAKE ALL THAT POLITICS STUFF OVER TO /POL/ YA HEAR?
Fuck off you dindu
So what are the laws/restrictions then? Could omeone sum em up for me? I cant bring myself to watch a video of a nigger shedding crocodile tears to push an agenda...
I'll take trump over shillary but I'll take sanders over trump. There are more issues than gus when it comes to elections. Bernie won't guns and won't be any worse than obama. He will be better than obama.
Sanders, he'll be too busy failing to turn the U.s. into Scandinavia to do shit about guns, maybe we'll get lucky and he takes big business out of politics (kek yeah right) and it opens the doors down the road for less polarized, more "logical" middleground presidents in the future instead of these big business backed right/left wing caricatures we always get.
>borderline sociopath with crazy ass family never gets any kind of mental health checks or counseling and just happens to have access to loadseguns
He just happened to roll snake eyes on life, from what I can figure out. 9.9/10 times someone in the same ir similar situation would have been prevented from reaching the same breaking point - or, that SHOULD be the case, same with all so-called "mass shooters".
Point being, for anyone to take the Sandy Hook incident and try to apply any information from that to any other kind of crime and say there is correlation is fucking idiotic.
That's frankly like me saying that the Challenger disaster is why we shouldn't be going to space. Freak fucking disaster but now we're supposed to believe that there's some kind of pattern to this shit? Fuck that.
Yeah, let's just expand ignoring due process because of MY FEELINGS. There's no way that'll touch guns.
>wants us to be like europe
>has gun control voting history
>BLACK LIVES MATTER
great idea, much better than obama
kek I told you faggots they were going to do backdoor gun confiscation with mental health as the scapegoat
Not sure what your point is, but it looks about the same to me.
The NICS system is a pointless intrusion upon our civil liberties, even if the FBI is still playing by its own rules.
The term "Mental Health" is meaningless to me.
There's no study that can point to a proper amount of chemicals in the brain.
There's no universally accepted ethics.
Either you have health defects or you don't.
It's a scapegoat term for how astronomically we have failed this country and this world.
No amount of gun legislation will stop someone from going out and killing. With the right knowledge and supplies, you can kill.
Fuck this liberals, and fuck people who advocate "common sense" gun laws.
Suppressors aren't dangerous.
Short Barreled Rifles aren't dangerous.
A tank isn't dangerous.
> find the future mass killer
the guy who drew this. I can totally see horsey shooting a bunch of people that fit a look that he doesn't like. That's basically all leftists ever do when they get into power.
>Voting for the Gibs Me Dat candidate
The way he got lucky was that he went of the radar for 3 years. He dropped out of college and stayed in the basement for 3 while there were guns everywhere and his mind was deteriorating. The guns should have been taken out of the house when they noticed something was not right.
>Restricting rights without any sort of conviction or due process
>Being okay with this
I'm gonna go with you being this fucking retarded.
>The term "Mental Health" is meaningless to me.
Then you're a contrarian or else a child.
I don't support backdoor "mental health" gun confiscation nor do I believe that many of the currently recognizes mental disorders/issues are grounds for denying firearms ownership (especially depression, fucking hell suicide itself is a victimless crime), but the fact remains that a large number of problems with American degeneracy, violence, etc issues stem from a relative lack of focus on mental and physical health, paired with a crumbling public education system.
I want to see legislative actions on those fronts more than I want to see free fully automatic silenced shortbarrel machineguns, or whatever ATF buzzword is popular today, deregulated.
Does that mean private sales are kill?
Or does it just mean you now need get an FFL transfer/NICS check through a broker or something for face to face private sales? Because the latter would be.... well it would suck but it wouldnt be as colossal a "fuck you" as getting rid of private sales all together when there is an easy solution.
How the fuck do you stop that, any more than you can stop the trafficking of pure 100% cocaine? Why does the entire population of intended victims need to be punished and rendered more vulnerable because of what some bloodthirsty fuckwit *might* do?
What kind of bipedal herd animal are you?
It throws a chill into everybody advertising point to point sales on Gunbroker. As it is intended to.
Pretty sure you only need FFL still if you are selling a quantity if guns large enough to be considered a firm. So gun show salesmen (le loophole XD) and such, or if you're unloading several guns at once.
Should I panic buy right now? I'm looking for a Glock 19.
I fucking hope for the sake of humanity this is sarcasm
Which is what? if you mean you will continue to transfer firearms and disregard the new laws, you are not doing the same thing. Now you would be committing a crime for material gain.
>Modestly expands background checks, which is supported by something like 80-90% of the public, completely legally through executive action
>"FUCKING GUN GRABBING NIGGER EXECUTIVE GUN GRAB FUCKING INNAWOODS 1776 PART 2 LIBERAL FUCKING MONKEY"
Never change /polk/
Statistically we should prevent the sale of guns to black thugs oh wait they get guns illegally anyways and this law does shit to stop that. Mentally ill people are most often the victims of violence rather then the offenders but please don't stop logic from obscuring your liberal sensibilities.
>i'll take an economic illiterate, obsessed with pandering to any and all special snowflake faggots who believes only hunting firearms should be legal and we should apologize for slavery over, a brash pro-gun business man because muh Mexicans, muh bankruptcy and le rich are ebil memes.
>also dude free lmao
>Because it's insulting to want to buy a .22 for your son or your brother and have both of you prove that you're not violent criminals.
Sorry that you feel insulted by a check that makes sure you're not a violent felon before you purchase a firearm. You'll get over it, unlike people who are murdered by gun crime.
>Because when foreign religious fascists murder people at a Christmas party, the reaction of my government and the media and vast swathes of the urban population is to call for my head on a pike.
Waaaaaaaa, your life is sooooo haaaaarrrrdddddd.
>makes sure you're not a violent felon before you purchase a firearm.
What the fuck happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?
>You'll get over it, unlike people who are murdered by gun crime.
People who are murdered by gun crime don't give a fuck about my 10/22, they're busy bleeding out from Jamal's illegally acquired Hi-Point. Legally bought firearms are used in less than 1% of crime.
Why are you punishing the innocent majority for the actions of the criminal minority
>The executive branch makes laws guiz
Literally the only thing he did was give money to the feds and atf, which is outside the scope of EO's. Which as a result is going to push congress to try and defund both.
OH NOES YOU NEED A BACKGROUND CHECK WHEN YOU BUY A GUN AT A GUN SHOW!!!1
Relax faggots, we've needed this for years. It's bullshit a felon or psychopath can go to a gun show and subvert federal laws.
Take a good look at this, Redditfag. What category accounts for more than half of all homicides? What category accounts for half as many people as fistfights?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 3
Murder Offenders by Age, Sex, and Race, 2011
Expanded Homicide Data Table 11
by Weapon, 2011
Total firearms: 8583
Knives or cutting instruments: 1694
Personal weapons (hands/feet): 726
>What the fuck happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?
This guy, probably hasn't even read the Bill of Rights.
1. All gun sellers must make background checks, don't matter were you are.
2. Making it harder for people with criminal history to buy high power weapons.
3. Making the background checks more effecient
4. Making ATF bigger hiring 200 more agents to process background checks
5. Making sure more gun sellers report if guns are stolen or lost.
>inb4 rip guns
The average smalltime seller at a gun show is a lot pickier about who they sell to than the average wage slave at some sporting goods store ("duhh, the background check said he was okay").
Also, how many of the murders in >>28440376
were conducted by someone who bought a gun at a gunshow from a small seller?
>doesn't refute point
You know where the violent crime is?
It's in the south, in the same places where welfare is rampant and where all violent crime is rampant. It's a black community problem.
Statistics aren't racist. FBI statistics aren't racist. You can check me on all of this. Blacks are the vast majority of violent crime producers. They are much more likely to kill and harm people than any other racial group. They account for half of all deaths in the US and only make up 13% of the population. Look at a heat map of Black population density, Welfare density, and violent crime density. Get back to me and tell me I'm wrong. Maybe we should ask why they're so much more prone to these crimes than anyone else and fix that problem first.
>1. All gun sellers must make background checks, don't matter were you are.
Soooo... no more perfectly legal point to point sales within the same state?
>2. Making it harder for people with criminal history to buy high power weapons.
Criminals aren't eligible to legally buy firearms to begin with, so they don't. Pic related.
Jesus. It IS Reddit.
>Hey dirtbag joe were did you get that gun?
>I got it from gang banger steve
>did he do a bg check?
>10 years in jail
Are you misquoting me?
My post had nothing to do with race.
I fucking live in Alabama, I can tell you why nignogs carry out a higher percentage of violent crimes, and it's by and large due to an engrained system of worse-than-third-world education and poverty cycles that has taught them to act like dumbfuck stereotypical niggers.
And guess what? The same education systems do the same to the white, mexican, whatever families that get trapped in them. This is a complex societal and financial problem that has deep roots in the Antebellum and Reconstruction-era South, and can't be answered by just saying "hurr niggers gonna nig"
Statistics aren't racist, true, but believing that the causation lies in race because there's a racial correlation is fucking moronic.
>But they are America and you are the captor.
This shit pisses me off. Imagine if we had politicians calling out the "free speech" lobby or the "privacy" lobby. The NRA is literally just people who want the government to stop fucking with their funs.
>mfw he needs to ask congress for the funbux for his plan
>guy commits murder
>goes to prison or chair
America's low homicide rate testifies to the effectiveness of our laws.
Moreover, many of our murders occur in urban areas (which tend to have MORE gun control) and are committed by shitskins. I think we need to address the racial question before the gun one, given that a smaller percentage of firearms owners commit murders than blacks.
the best person to actually help that situation is Bernie Sanders, and this is gun control debates aren't allowed on /k/ cause now we are talking about non-weapon related politics.
Prove me wrong kid.
No, paying for a funeral does not make you a victim.
Neither does feeling sad. An individual has their own right to life, if they choose to die then their right does not end where your feelings begin.
>the best person to actually help that situation is Bernie Sanders
>any presidential candidate
Fuck it in all honesty, I'm just saving money until I can expatriate to some Euro country and live innawoods while Hajji enriches the cities.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
>America's low homicide rate testifies to the effectiveness of our laws.
>cant own guns chicago
>kids in columbine used hipoint carbines that use ammunition they themselves couldnt buy legally
>the shooter in newtown stole all of his guns
also the massive elephant that nobody seems to notice is that they all took place is gun free zones
>but we need more laws
>the gun personally killed those kids
at least he hasnt introduced any assault weapons ban and he knows if he introduced an assault weapons via executive action there would be a damn civil war
>expecting a country with a massive population below the poverty line not to have a higher homicide rate
Also, other countries report homicides differently than U.S., some only conclude homicide if a verdict is ruled in court
Bernie Sanders just said Obamas gun control today wasn't enough in a interview. Fuck your ultra liberal idols. I remember years ago Sanders was one of the only left leaning members in congress that was mildly pro gun. Today he might as well be Clinton herself.
>Those rights were stripped from college kids in Blacksburg and Santa Barbara, from high schoolers in Columbine, and from first graders in Newtown. First graders. And from every family who never imagined their loved ones would be taken from our lives from a bullet, from a gun.
What a commie faggot. Your rights don't end with your death.
>I consider anyone who chooses suicide a victim of suicide.
Your consideration means jack shit. You write laws now? Fix this gun control bullshit then
>Anyone traumatized by their death is also a victim of suicide
Traumatization isn't a crime you tumblrina. At most you'd have grounds for a civil suit - with a dead person
>Niggers and criminals buy guns illegally through black market
>HOWZ ABOUTZ I CLOSE DA GUN SHOW LEWP WHOLE TO PREVENTZ DA PEEPULL DATZ NOT BUYIN GUNZ LEGALLY FROM BUYIN GUNZ
>ITZ ALL OK MUH ANCESTAHZ WUZ KANGS AN SHIET I KNOWZ HOWZ TO RUN A GUBZMINT
>uhhh let me be clear
>uhhhh weneed2milliondollars uhhhhh to enforce uhhh the laws tostopthegunshowloophole and uhhhh keep our children safe
>but the gun show loophole literally does not exits we are not going to take money from the taxpayer to enforce a law that will do nothing but pay atf agents to sit on their asses
And the right to defend that life was stripped by gun free zones.
This man has the gall to talk about innocents being killed when there is a White House backed action to kill people overseas in countries we're not at war with based solely on suspicion, all while killing bystanders, many of whom were children. Yeah, keep "saving the children", you mouth-breathing, disingenuous, hypocritical piece of human garbage.
Every word out of Obama's mouth has been crafted to mislead and deceive. He also deliberately ignored a study ordered by him specifically after Newtown because god forbid, it went against his agenda.
The 90% figure comes from a cherry picked study providing no context as to what UBCs are, or how they'll be enforced. Private sales aren't a loophole, they're an exception.
Background checks are constitutional of course, because they're just checking if you've been previously adjudicated as mentally unstable or having criminal history. However UBCs are useless, unenforceable crap legislation. A law isn't worth having unless you can actually enforce it, and by the time you get imprisoned for not filling out a BC, the crime's already committed, and someone's dead. Try going for the root causes and motivation of crime instead.
>Inb4 WHY HAVE ANY LAWS AT ALL; I WATCH THE DAILY SHOW
Show me an effective law, and explain how it'll be enforced.
Did you know that Eurocuck countries deliberately under-report crime?
sorry buddy but mass shootings are not "rare" in the US no matter how hard you try to rationalize it
I don't want your rights taken away either, but shit let's be honest here
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?EVERYTHINGS GONNA GET EXPENSIVE NOW!
WHAT THE FUCK OBAMA!?! WHY CANT YOU JUST ENJOY THE WHITE HOUSE AND TAKE A VACATION? OH GUN NO MORE GUNS UNDER $500! WHY GOD WHY?!
You can't even formulate an accurate description for what constitutes a "mass shooting" because, guess what? They're statistical fucking anomalies and heavily sensationalized by the media
>Gun control legislation should ultimately fall on individual states, with the exception of instant background checks to prevent firearms from finding their way into the hands of criminals and the mentally ill
I decided trump got my vote for sure when I opened mailbox one day, he is my wrecking ball.
While the irony of suicide being illegal isn't lost on me, legality has little to do with whether something does or does not create victims. Example: your own words can be hurtful to anons who are thereby victimized. Shut up I'm not crying I was just chopping onions.
I would vote for any candidate over Sanders.
And he has said multiple times that no one should own guns that aren't used for hunting.
Socialism is a disease that has killed 100,000,000 people in the last 100 years and has always supported disarming the populace.
Time to sell my brand new SCAR i have been keeping in storage for bazillion dollars and then buying full auto PKMs when Trump becomes God emperor.
IT'S 2016 GUYS I MEAN COME ON IT'S 2016 YOU WHITES ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH GUNS
Mass shooting - "Broadly speaking, the term refers to an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence"
you fuckers are delusional
We need to separate the term its to broad and has heavy implications even when its only like three people. Don't get me wrong that is pretty bad but we need to create additional categories.
Like if the shooter gets more then 5 kills then we can have the ticker taper on the tv say something like MEGAKILL and they get 10 or more its an ULTRAKILL.
Fun fact for you.
4 months ago, my little sister stole my moms gun and blew her head off and I found her.
Imagine going to your parents house after work, having to break down you little sisters door and seeing her brains on the floor of her closet.
I'm not a victim, she isn't alive to be a victim, guns aren't responsible.
you using suicide without knowing a fucking thing about it makes you a liberal tool.
He mentions the one Chinese knife attack on a school where no one died. Did not mention the other chinese knife attack where dozens died and hundreds were injured.
He is mainly doing this to bait the GOP. Everything sounds so reasonable on the surface. So he wants them to be against it all.o make the Republicans look unreasonable.
It's more about if you actively trade firearms, selling buying selling and buying to sell, you need a FFL and run a background check.
You can still, apparently, sell from your own collection to anyone without an FFL or background check. I can still sell my neighbor my glock 19 if I wanted like before. I can even do it online if I wanted.
Trust for suppressors seems to be a thing of the past. Something about needing a background check and fingerprints for everyone in the trust to have a suppressor.
*As far as I understand*
Yes, an AWB does encompass all weapons because the government, who wants to take those weapons away, gets to decide what is and is not an "assault weapon", which is already A MADE UP TERM YOU STUPID RETARD!
are Hispanics now not american? or are you just clinging onto irrational ideas that certain races are inferior to others?
this is why we don't have gun control debates on this board.
if you wanted that you'd vote for shillary or bernie glassberg
trump never wanted to go into Iraq, and wants Russia to deal with ISIS
(ie: he has a fucking brain/isn't a military-industrial complex shill)
>be maybe only allowed to own pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns and machine pistols in the future
>'muh family is virtually already raped by Mexicans who will break into my house'
Why was your little sister able to access your mothers gun? Why wasn't she taught not to fuck around with firearms? If she was suicidal why didn't she receive help? Sounds to me like your mom's an irresponsible cunt.
Alright, reddit, /b/, 9gag, et al, here's the deal:
Even if it resulted in the death of every last precious little chillun, no, we won't support gun control. Luckily, such a choice never existed to begin with. Gun control does not work. It will never work. It's a convenient scapegoat for nignogs nignogging. Fuck your gun control. Fuck your shilling. Not a single inch will be given. The slippery slope stops here.
Welcome to /k/, now get out!
you must have missed the part where he's the only candidate from either party thaat has brought up the fact that corporations are stashing around 3 trillion dollars overseas (corporate inversions) - he's the only person that has proposed a solution to bringing this money back
he's also the only one who's spoken about the US's huge foreign trade deficits and the fact that 95 million americans are out of work because their jobs have gone overseas or have been replaced by cheap foreigners on HB1/HB2 visas
Why do people misinterpret racial/national statistics that don't conform to their beliefs as racist?
Almost no one thinks that non-whites are inferior to whites for being non-white. Its just an understanding that the majority of non-whites are statistically inferior inferior in pretty much every way. Genetics (geographic ethnicity matters, not race) plays a role, but it's mostly a cultural thing.
There are examples of successful people who are every type of non-white. But the same level of success is proportionally more likely in white/asians, because of the impacts of culture and education.
>tl;dr anyone who says genetics dont impact humans is being intellectually dishonest or genuinely misinformed.
>tl;dr tl;dr dumb niggers exist because of the phrase 'uncle tom'
That's a confirmed MDA/Brady Shill site with questionable methodology and a political agenda.
And hey look, it's got our favorite /k/ommandos listed!
Hate crime... suuurreeeeee. Give me a break.
>he's the only person that has proposed a solution to bringing this money back
Actually Rand Paul has a solution, it's actually quite good.
It goes something like this, "14.5% flat tax".
The anti-gunners are in absolute denial that people could actually want guns. Their only explanation for why their laws are being blocked is that the Big Bad NRA Gun Lobby is manipulating politicians. And then at the same time we have Bloomberg and other rich politicians attempting to create their own """grass roots""" anti-gun movement
>You know where the violent crime is?
>It's in the south, in the same places where welfare is rampant and where all violent crime is rampant. It's a black community problem.
Chicago is in the south?
Obama was fast tracked through the Democrat party, dumbass, look at his campaign donors for the 2008/2012 elections
he was always a political establishment puppet - the only people shilling for obama were muh end to rayshism drones
sounds similar to Trump
I like Rand, but he has no support and no chance to be president
I still want to read the language on the order, if hearsay is correct a limit of 2 sales ok but 3 means you need an FFL is asinine. the Funding part he has no authority to push.
My issue is that instead of addressing simply the fact that the existing laws still aren't getting enforced means more money to not enforce more laws that are identical to laws that exist alread ...
>all the unsourced "facts" in these threads
that's why they're not allowed here you dirty neckbeards
>HURRRR DID YOU KNOW BLACK PEOPLE, OR "NIGGERS," AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, COMMIT 99% OF CRIMES
>DURRR ONLY .000001% OF CRIMES WERE DONE BY LEGALLY PURCHASED FIREARMS
>MUH TOUPEE GOD
>MUH WHITE PARADISE
>Also, how many of the murders in >>28440376
>were conducted by someone who bought a gun at a gunshow from a small seller?
In my country 70% of illegal firearms on the street are purchasesd LEGALLY in the US and smuggled across the border- and the proportion is a lot higher for handguns and probably assault pattern rifles (which is a real thing, an assault rifle modified to be semi-auto is still a modified assault rifle,) which are difficult to acquire legally.
>Toronto police seized 861 crime guns in the city
>at least 70 per cent smuggled in from the U.S
>any gun that is illegally possessed or is seized in relation to a criminal act
You know why gun control works for Australia and the UK, and not us? They don't share a 5000km with the shittiest country in the first world.
>Why can't a constitutionalist ever be president?
Because support needs to be built at the ground level: cities, counties, and states. Until then, the current parties call the shots.
because they are seen as crazy pshyco manson tier people for some reason. And also the majority of dumb fucks would gladly give up their rights in mass if it meant "haha you cant say nigger anymore and you have to accept i have a pussy where my dick used to be"
look at his poll and social media numbers, he has no support
Rand doesn't have his father's charisma
Ron would've been great, but was nuked by the mainstream media and didn't have the Trumpbux to maintain momentum
cruz and rubio are establishment shills, only GOPdrones want to vote for those cucks
also no, Trump didn't copy Rand
This might require a new thread, but I'll try here first.
So how does this shit affect Hollis? I haven't had time to read the order itself, but it sounded like Obama was going to fuck with the wording about "trusts" in the way Hollis is alleging (read: demonstrating) is illegal even before the order. Or is this different somehow? Does this undermine anything?
My god, everyone in this thread is retarded!
You have NEVER been allowed to be in the BUSINESS of selling firearms without an FFL. Normal private sales are still legal, this changes nothing!
>segregation rightfully shitcanned the US became a hell hole?
>segregation rightfully shitcanned
... Are you fucking retarded?
Getting segregation declared unconstitutional was the beginning of the the 14th amendment being a legal blank check whose only requirement was that someone feel different than someone else.
Oh gee someone isn't obeying the law, and we don't like that... That must mean the law is unconstitutional, not that people are just breaking a law...
Because people who are incapable of interpreting the situation and blindly implement obsolete policy are fucking retarded.
>There's an emergency and you need to make an executive order
>Sorry gotta wait for congress to approve it, national policy, outta my control
>In my country 70% of illegal firearms on the street are purchasesd LEGALLY in the US and smuggled across the border
Bullshit, you dumb fucking beaner. 70% of the guns that your corrupt fucking government asks our guys to run a background check on come from the US. The vast majority of the time they don't bother.
My cousin died in a horrible shaving accident. Tried to shave his inside right thigh with a steak knife, slipped, fell, sliced open his femoral artery and bled out in the bathtub. His wife found him. She knew he was accident prone, he had the scars to prove it. Yeah she was sad but she dealt with it.
a govt list for 'mentally ill'* people, for the sake of infringing on their gun rights is absolutely fucked
*anyone who's ever had drugs or therapy paid by insurance
do you really trust the govt to decide what 'mental illness' means? Do you think they'll stop at guns?
Oh, fuck off Horsey, you fucking idiot. I was a loner and a juggalo who got picked on a bunch all throughout school and I never committed a mass shooting. I had easy access to firearms too. You know why I didn't? Because I'm not a crazy kid whose parents pumped him full of pills.
>You know why gun control works for Australia and the UK, and not us? They don't share a 5000km with the shittiest country in the first world.
I mean, I wouldn't call Mexico first world, but you're entitled to your beliefs
>Tried to shave his inside right thigh with a steak knife
I wish I could gather all tripfags into a barn, lock the doors, and burn it to the ground
>which is a real thing, an assault rifle modified to be semi-auto is still a modified assault rifle,
What the fuck am I reading? There are no "modifications". Those guns are DESIGNED to be semi-auto.
Go to bed torontofag.
There are several things your country could do:
1) build a wall
2) let the people legally defend themselves with firearms
3) admit gun control does not, and never will, work, and repeal their shitty gun control
4) overhaul their educational system because gun control didn't work in the UK or Australia and semiautomatic rifles aren't assault rifles (not even modified assault rifles) you fuckwit.
>A person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms regardless of the location in which firearm transactions are conducted. For example, a person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms even if the person only conducts firearm transactions at gun shows or through the Internet. Those engaged in the business of dealing in firearms who utilize the Internet or other technologies must obtain a license, just as a dealer whose business is run out of a traditional brick-and-mortar store.
Dosnt matter who you are cockfag
>So are you fuckers just going to complain online or are you going to actually do something about it?
Your post is a call to arms that most will not answer, I am quite sorry to say.
>Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators. There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.” For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.
>trusting the government to not come after you and saying "yup, he sold a gun, thats in the business".
Move to the U.K. if you hate your rights and get off /k/
>not voting for trump
>not voting to protect your gun rights
gunfags are full blown retarded like getting sig braces ban.
This was already the law, you fucking retard.There has never been a specific threshold to be considered "in the business" of selling firearms, don't buy guns with the intent to sell them and you'll be fine, just like everyone else has been for the fast 20 years. Obama's order is a non issue, he's just reminding local prosecutors that the law exists at all.
But Trump hates freedom too.
I mean, if it's down to him versus Hillary, I'd hold my nose and vote for Trump, but then I'd probably spend the next month repenting. Literally the only one worth voting for is Rand Paul, and his campaign is basically dead barring divine intervention.
>But Trump hates freedom too.
>Literally the only one worth voting for is Rand Paul, and his campaign is basically dead barring divine intervention.
Guess it's time to commit suicide
Let's assume that you're right and and you're not just reading off of a >>>/pol/ infograph.
So what? Despite their deficiencies as a GROUP, their rights as INDIVIDUALS are not subject to the whims of a group until they are convicted in a court of law.
Im worried about number 3. When I was an angsty teen I took depression meds for a bit but I dont remember why. I dont even know whats on my med record. Does this mean they are gonna see that now and I wont pass background checks anymore
Is there any country with a bigger inferiority complex than Canada?
Nope. Our population is torn between wanting to be American, and wanting to be European. We as a whole cannot decide whether to emulate our big brother or our parents. My vote is for brother.
Why is this not a thing I can thing my thing to
While some of this stuff actually makes sense (24/7 NICS availability, upgrading the NICS system to make it more efficient, etc.) there's a lot of horseshit feel-good prose going on there:
Ensure smart and effective enforcement of our gun laws: What the fuck does this even mean?
Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and Department of Homeland Security to take two important steps to promote smart gun technology: Ah, great. Fucking smart gun technology. This shit again.
Remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information to the background check system: Cuz fuck HIPAA, right?
Issue a memo directing every U.S. Attorney’s Office to renew domestic violence outreach efforts: Hey guize, look...they're gonna issue a memo.
Aaaaaaaand my favorite!
Clarify that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks. LOLwut...."in the business of buying and selling firearms" sounds awful damned nebulous and open to selective enforcement. Can't wait to see what arbitrary number or dollar figure is established, and then promptly not enforced anyway.
Ugh. Just ugh. Not one of these things will prevent stolen guns, straw-purchase guns, or guns purchased illegally by felons.
So we should keep following the laws and enforce the existing law...
Did... Did Obama just say what we have been saying for the past 4 years?
I mean, "THIS IS A NEW AND NOVEL APPROACH TO GUN VIOLENCE, I AM GLAD THAT HE HAD THIS ORIGINAL IDEA."
"I Contributed", said Obama.