General Nutaku and DMM Thread 150

Can you mitigate Makai debuff by using Feng Shui users?

Man I loved Alyssa's old VA. The current one sounds overly cutesy.

>Host raid boss
>Maint
I wasn't going to get anything good anyway.

Why are some regions allowed to play Kamipro on nutaku before others..

How do you change the secretary on Aigis?

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- The Urgent Mission
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　The Item Drop Rate will be available
　until begin of maintenance on February 21(Tue).

Change of unit list of Trading Post
- End of the Exchange of Demon Crystals
　"Black Robe Cyrus"
　"Swordswoman Akane"
　"Fairy Village Archer Spica"
- Start of the Exchange of Demon Crystals
　"Ninja Hien"
　"Fairy Queen Chydis"
　"Sailor Viera"
- Start of the Exchange of Moment Crystals
　"Vampire Princess Karma"
　"Immortal Princess Karma"
　
　*Although you can have multiple "Immortal Princess Karma",
　 only one can be organized at a time.

Other Changes
- Added the Story Mission "Eastern Wind" Second Half
- Changed the Unit boosted in Premium Summon
- Basic EXP x3 for Silver female units
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　EXP will return to normal after the maintenance scheduled
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>Cyclamen gets third place
We did it... except this is the Banana Ocean festival, so watch and despair as the pure-hearted 2* underdog is corrupted by the slut nation and dons an overly skimpy swimsuit.

Cattleya and Anemone are at top and second place, which is great too.

>>16560503
Bottom button in the gift menu.

>>16557799
Sweet. Wait, apparently there's a kinokuniya branch in Singapore, is there a high chance I could buy it there? I'm going there around April, so I might not ask my friend to buy it anymore and just buy by myself.

>>16560654
I've seen the art books in a Kinokuniya in America, so I don't see why not.

>>16560657
Cool, I'm now looking forward for my vacation there. Oh yeah, is it a guaranteed Aigis code?

I have saved up 50 SCs
I plan to blow 25 on monday dailies and 25 on the demon crystal daily, once a daily boost event comes
Rate my plan

>>16560674
1/10 plan
Blow it on rolls instead

>>16560664
Should be so long as it's sealed.

>>16560685
Sweet, thanks man.

>>16560681
I already have 3 gacha blacks sitting at lv80 and no resources to AW them

>>16560537
The sky is falling down on our heads! Save yourselves!

So what's up with this Venus Blade Raising game that just came out? Seems to be a sequel or relaunch or something of an old GREE/Mobage game but actually looks playable-ish now. And the characters have a very FKG style, but nothing else seems to have that level of polish.

>>16559917
Welp. Had three of those on Nutaku and none of them on DMM. Also sitting on like 5.4k event points and only takes about 2600 to get the last three equipment pieces. Guess I'm not doing much this week.

>>16559975
Most of what's on the boorus comes from Pixiv or Twitter.

>>16560562
This isn't the recent vote is it? I never did see the results for that. I saw Wolf's Bane way up there in that, was hoping she's sneak into top three.

>>16560664
If it's sealed, you're good. If it's not sealed, you can see if the code itself is sealed in the back of the book. It would be pretty obvious if someone got the code because they seal it maybe a little too well.

>>16560562
>Aburana and Waremokou get exclusive equipments too.
I'm a happy man.

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Ana making up for getting her event skipped

Anyone know if the makai debuff on that one event map works to units like Demon Tamers, or Avengers?

>>16560537
Only took two goddamn years to remember the trading post hasn't been rotated.

>>16560537
Fugg I never managed to get Akane, am I missing out?
I only got one extra copy of Spica for the single cost reduction/skill up.

I just realized that I never got the weapon along the Beelzebub I got in the pre-registration gacha... which is supposedly like half the point of getting them.
Is there any point of rolling duplicated of Kamihimes you want to use?

>>16560896
Nah, she's a mediocre samurai, usable if you don't have either of the 2 decent samurai but not special enough to worry about.

Chydis is a great healer so don't miss out on her. She has the same sort of skill as Spica which makes her good ontop of being platinum.

>>16560907
Getting dupe SSR kamihimes gives you a dragonic eye instead, it's a type of currency you can use in the shop to trade for stuff. I assume R dupes will get you eye shards instead or something

>>16560911
R and SR get nothing. I got Zephyr and Agni 4-5 times in DMM.

>>16560915
Wait, what? Are you serious? You can roll an SR you already own and basically waste jewels/ticket if you do?

>>16560920
Yes, unfortunately.
To make things worse, the Kamihime-unlocking weapon ticket can also give you a dupe.

>>16560929
That is the fucking dumbest kind of scam I have seen in these kinds of games so far.
People WILL pay money just to get nothing.

After playing it through roughly for a weak I have reached the conclusion that Kamihime is actually fucking shit in everything, excluding the soundtrack.
Thank fuck I never tried to get into GBF if it's just that but without the H.

Bit of a weird question about Kamihime, how do things work after the rape scenes as far as canon is concerned?

Like in some of them the girl is captured and the guys intend to make her their slave or get her pregnant, is it assumed she gets rescued and has a magical abortion or something or is that canonically the end of her journey with you? Both options are amusing in their own way.

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>>16560907
Apparently first event nets you a dark SSR lance so you can at least get your soul a nice dark weapon if you don't have pic related. I'm sure most of us will end up equipping an arsenal of event weapons mostly.

>>16561057
It's stupid that they don't give weapons for rolling a character in the prereg. That's like half the point of getting a Kamihime.
Fuck, there is so much shitty design choices in this trainwreck, from the gameplay, to the UI, to the rewards system.

>>16561057
>>16561070
Coincidentally, in my case, if I roll a copy of Beelzebub, through gacha or ticket, do I get her weapon at the very least?

>>16561077
Yes, you will. You can have as many of her weapons as you get, have in mind that you WILL need dupe weapons to limit break them.

>>16561102
Ah. So that explains why they thought they can get away with giving you zilch when you roll a Kamihime - you get a copy of her weapon, after all.
I'm tempted to roll myself. There is few units in the gacha now, so my chances to get Satan, the one unit I want, are highest now. I've got 4300 jewels, the SR+ gacha ticket from the beginner's mission panel, and in two weeks I'll have another one from the log-in rewards.
Should I do it? I know it's been asked by so many people already.
Some answers given said something about waiting until they remove lone weapons from the gacha, but if it's going to take months I don't think it's worth the wait.

>>16561057
>Rank 32
>4820 gems
What do you spend them on? I'm 25 and I have over 10000 hoarded with no idea what to do. Limit breaking is so scarce and it only requires like 500.
Do you just spend it all on the normal gacha? Seems like it's not worth the effort.

>>16561214
I'm collecting the R kamihimes, also donating to the guild.

R Kamihimes need some love too.

I used the guaranteed KH weapon ticket and all I got was an R dolphin dick bait.
Also, been rolling the normal gacha like 10 times so far, and not a single R KH was drawn.
Fuck this gay Earth.

>>16561204
>SR+ gacha ticket from the beginner's mission panel
Hope you get something good...I got the same characterless SR wind axe you get sometimes for being the MVP in a raid.

>>16561204
I succumbed to the jewel gacha in a half-asleep drunken stupor. I got a crappy SR eidolon and charless R weaponry out of nearly 6k jewels. It hurts, and I deserve it. Worst part is that even if you purged the charless weapons I would have still gotten trash with those pulls.

You won't get Satan if you don't roll though. Hope you don't share my luck.

Famitsu article on Girl's Symphony:

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201702/14126650.html

>Live2D
>Onshi as collab character
>more stuff I didn't have time to read yet

>>16555448
Name Saion if you still accept members.

>>16561789
Got you in. Unless quitters appear the guild is mor e or less full now, only one space left.

Are the jewel rewards for the daily SP quests in Kamihime one time only or do they reset every week?

>>16560156
Hey guys. Any idea when KamiPro releases stateside?

>>16561867
One time only.
Only surefire renewable source of jewels is completing all 5 daily quests, and that's just 50 per day.

Also, little hint, when you get missions that involve enhancing or selling multiple times, selling or enhancing in batches counts as a single time.

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>>16561915

>>16561937
Thank you!

>>16561937
They like them healthy and blond.

Siegfrieds are starting to run rampant now, my times of MVP are at an end.

Satan never.

Jesus fucking christ. There is literally NO reason not to make self-insert-kun as the person fucking Cassiopeia in her scene.
What is the fucking point of a random dude using an aphrodisiac on her? At least the other rape scenes get the excuse of using the gangbang or bondage scenario or whatever, if you would take the text out of Cassiopeia's scene it looks like the most vanilla thing ever.

Oh well, cucked again! 'til next time when I finish leveling a Soul I guess.

>>16561994
What a shame I thought she was cute.
Though I don't particularly care abut anyone but Lancelot and Billy.

>>16561994
Eh you could tell it would happen with Cassiopeia because she had that look on her face that told you something would happen to her.

The two most rage inducing soul scenes are still Merlin and Beowulf. Merlin because of her dialogue while being fucked and Beowulf because it strings you along like it'll be the MC at first and even then she still doesn't get fucked.

>>16562029
>>16562070
>well let's hope the only delicious brown in the game, Baal at least will have decent scene
>let's check the preview image, might spoil myself but at least I'll know
F
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>>16562168
It also looks my SR waifu's of choice, Beelzebub's, second scene after level 55 is also rape.
Why couldn't they at least keep the ratio of scenes per character equal, so if they get raped in scene 1, have them fuck the MC in scene 2?
This might be pathetic but I might just drop this game, the frustration brought up with the disappointment in the scenes is way too often.

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Even autosort is bullying Helenium.

And this is after ~20 ampule sets, she didn't make top 20 without them. I hope she gets her blooming soon, at least Fritillary got an evolution and Spider Lily got an alternate version.

>>16562191
>>16562168
>>16562070
>>16562029
>>16561994

The biggest joke here is the fact the scene viewer menu is called the 'Harem'
Whose harem, for fuck's sake? Most of the girls get drugged/kidnapped/tied up/gangbanged/dolphin'd or otherwise raped.

>>16560181
No. Only AW Prince.

>>16562168
>>16562191
>>16562220
Call me a cuck but I actually sort of enjoy the rage and not knowing if a girl is going to get faceless man'd or not.

Once in a while I just want specific girls to get a more vanilla scene and there's some I'm curious about but don't want to spoil myself by looking up CGs. I knew what I was getting into when picking up the game though, 2d girls getting raped is hot.

What did Petite do this time?

>>16562444
Just being annoying dramawhore.

>>16562444
He was acting like a child on a temper tantrum, so nothing unusual. I'm okay with him, really. He does translation work, and in exchange he gets to whine about some stupid thing or another. Fair enough.

But if he ever decides to respond to the thread, the first thing you should do is asking how to kill these earth elementals in gold rush. He'll flip his shit and it'll be hilarious.

Can you see how much SC you have spent the current month?

>>16562559
Sort of, you can go to the log-in stamp screen to see which card you will get next month and how many SCs you need to use for the next tier.

You can use that to figure out how much you used, unless you're at the highest tier already.

Nanaly gave me chocolate. She loves me.

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The results are in.
Who'd you guys vote for? I dumped my tickets onto Lantana, but she ended up 77th.

>>16561975
>Siegfrieds are starting to run rampant now
Anyone who knew about the game, knows that she is the most abusive soul in the game to start with, it's nearly a free MVP card.

>>16561994
You can self-insert in faceless mobs, buddy, they're there for you self-insert as well

>>16562711
All my tickets went to アブラナ so I'm happy she got some attention.

>>16561036
So far the scene just ends after the rape with no answer to what happens after, Indra's scene mentions that the tentacle monster fucked her for a month before leaving, that's the only one so far.

>>16563049
Olivier's scene left me with more questions than answers.
When does that even take place and what does it accomplish but establishing her as a fucking dumbass?

>>16561766
> event and collab, both starting 2/14
Wait, it's not out yet, though.

Also dammit, now I feel like everyone go it wrong and we'll be getting Anri in FKG and Oncidium in GS, and I passed up Anri in pre-reg because everyone thought we'd be getting Anri in GS and Oncidium in FKG. But I wanted Anri dammit.

>>16562711
Everything to Ivy. Better luck next year, I guess. Even with a new rainbow (or maybe because of it), she didn't do very well.

>>16562711
Are the four bottom right girls the garden themed item winners?

>>16563209
I think it's safe to assume that the game will be released on the 14th. That, or they used outdated screenshots which were made with a different release date in mind.

>>16562711
All my tickets went to Manryou, but she only ended up 17th. Guess it's hard to compete with those die-hard Cattleya / Anemone fans who farmed up 1M+ tickets each for their waifu.

>>16563264
It's already the 14th in Japan, though. All of the other games are forking over Valentine's stuff as we speak.

>>16563383
It's not even 7am JST yet. DMM game releases usually don't happen till noon or the evening.

>>16563418
I mean it's possible it'll launch, but there's been literally no word on a launch date yet and they only just closed the pre-reg yesterday. It'd be awfully soon.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if it launched tonight, though.

>>16563418
And usually won't be playable until 1-2 days later.

With all the fuss over "ntr" in kamihime which is just girls with no romantic relationship with the mc getting raped so far, are there any cases where it's legitimately netorare or ones where the girl's first sex scene is a vanilla self insert friendly one followed up by rape in the second?

I want to watch the world burn.

>>16563705
Gaia. Vanilla 1st scene and gangbang for second.

>>16563705
Honestly, I haven't seen NTR. And I've seen quite a lot of scenes already. A lot of them are in the past, triggering Purityfags. Even Merlin 's scene, which could be the worst offender (ironically made even more powerful by Nutaku making her seem eager to get her rapist's child), isn't really NTR because even if she might have had feelings for the MC they didn't do shit in skits nor were they in a relationship. Now if they raped Alissa, that's another story.

People are very greedy self-inserts.The MC is happily fucking everything close enough without getting shackled and stabbed so he isn't really unfortunate and might be the smartest of all.

>>16563733
Watching the world burn sure isn't easy.

>>16563733
Just gaia? Damn.

Is she the one where they record is with a camera? I think I remember seeing that one posted somewhere.
>>16563762
Figured there was very little if any. If Alissa or Diabolos got raped then people would probably lose their minds.

>>16563810
When Alyssa gets raped, I will be there to say "good riddance" and receive a round of applause for doing so.

>>16563810
>Is she the one where they record is with a camera?
That's Nemesis.

>>16563845
Admittedly as much as I'd love to see Alyssa get what's coming I'd prefer it if Nike was the girl from the main cast to have something happen to her.

The way she falls asleep everywhere it's almost like it's just waiting to happen.

>>16563943
Nike is probably one of the dev's waifu since she has the highest amount of H scenes so far.

How good is Karma going to be assuming I have bad luck with CR/SU rolls? I mean, I can use rainbow fairies eventually for her skill but not having her mincosted is gonna suck. Should I burn some chocolates for it?

Also, on the trading post change, how bad is it that I won't get a Saki? I don't currently use any ninjas so I backburnered her thinking they'd completely forgotten the tradepost. I guess I'll have to settle for my Kagero or Saizo if I need one.

>>16564052
What makes you think Saki is leaving?

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>>16564062

Assuming the whole thing was changing instead of actually reading what units were. Whoops.

Wonder how Kamihime will do on Nutaku. It's not like an Aigis, which is a solo game, if it's like GBF then it will be very community reliant because of guilds, raids, and friends. It'll need a sizable community to work properly.

>>16564052
She's fine at max cost.

Got a giftcard of 20 bucks, which dmm game could i get the most bang out of them?

>>16564356
None, they're all jewish as fuck. Don't expect much unless you're spending hundreds.

>>16564356
Get Aigis' Alicia deal plus FKG's 2 golds, I think you have barely enough for both (1400 DMM points for one, 590 for the other, so ~20 bucks?)

>>16562840
>wanting to get dangerously immediate to the vicinity of other men's exposed balls and semen
Gay

>>16563987
Also all of them are vanilla.
So far.
Please tell me they all remain that way.
>>16563845
The tsundere main heroine getting raped would cause too much of a shitstorm. She's too impactful story-wise.

>>16564445
>other men
Just self-insert into all of them. It's a fantasy game, what prevents you from being an entire faceless rape mob?

>>16564456
I want to impactfully hit Alyssa in the face with a mallet.

>>16564464
Teach me, master.

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>>16564471
Where we're going, we won't need eyes to rape.

Aw shit I ruined my chocolates and there's two Dinas in there.

>>16564456
Aside from the vanilla stuff, she has one 3P and one yuri scene.
And the hardcore contents have been decreasing greatly with the recent updates, so I don't think anything bad would ever happen to the main cast.
The MC himself is another story though.

>>16564582
>one 3P
This is going to spoil me but my curiosity is too great - with who?

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Who did you guys get?
>tfw got two golds since they're so easy to level with the million 18k fairies I have

>>16564615
Amon

>>16564624
Nadia, Elizabeth, Racua.

No surprises here, they're my three level 90 plats.

>Snatch stacks up
Why the fuck does nobody tell me these things
Fucking game

Does the debuff have a limit? I notice it misses sometimes.

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>>16564624
About as expected.

>>16564689
Assuming it's the same as gbf the drop rate boost should stack up to 9

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>>16564567
Sounds like you've improved them, if anything.

>>16564624
Dina, Aisha, and Odette.

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>>16564624

>all these blacks
W-whales

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>>16564624

>>16564802
Looks like a pretty basic spread for anybody on DMM.

Rerolled Satan on Nutaku Kamihime, no idea what she does. Is she good?

>>16564886
Who, Satan? Kind of the exact opposite of good.

>>16564890
Looks like I can keep rerolling then

>>16564916
No, because Satan, get it? It's a joke anon, please don't.

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>>16564624

Girls Symphony is up.

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Also, Seven will be the next Aigis event unit. She's a rogue. Would have guessed thief, but rogue is probably better.

I think this makes her the first unit that could release with AW2?

>>16565057
How is it? Gameplay any good?

>>16565173
Not starting it tonight, I'll catch it in the morning. Seems to be an absolute fuckton of praise for the dialogue presentation, though. Game's apparently rather polished.

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>>16564624
As expected today's ended up a Happy+Joy list. Forgot to change at the end of the first day, but it's Kibahime so it's okay; would have been Miruno otherwise.

>>16564886
I'd keep it considering that right now only 7/23 SSR weapons will actually give you an SSR Kamihime, and I'd be willing to bet a lot on no-character SSRs weapons having a higher draw rate. No idea if she's good or not though.

So is there any story context whatsoever to the Souls being raped? Aren't they supposed to be tied to the MC's spirit and come out to protect him and whatnot? So they just randomly walk down a dark alley and get set upon by the wandering faceless rape squad?

Far be it from me to get uppity about bad ends, I just find it a little odd that we level up our Souls to max and then they go and get gangbanged. Are there more scenes coming to tell more of their story or is it just bad end, too bad?

Or is this all just in the game to pander to the ntr/rape fetishists and trigger waifufags?

>>16564886
Well I ended up with Fafnir on another. Are Eidolons good?

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Can't be DMM game launch day without thing like this.
The dialogue part with 2D live and lip sync is pretty nice.
Gameplay wise, there is some sort of formation rotation and stuff but the tutorial battles ended too fast for me to figure out how it actually works.

>>16565310
Hey there, fellow stuck-at-fusion-tutorial anon.

I figured once your front line gets beat up on a bit, you rotate them to the back to heal up and have the next column take over.

>>16565325
Cleared cache then refreshed the game fixed it for me.

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>>16564624
Another Spica, Eterna and Anya.
If I remember correctly, all of them got jay/happy, so seems like I'm stuck with them.

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Not getting 3 4* girls during prereg is a huge mistake.

>>16565341
Surprised to see a built-in cache clearing button in game.

>>16565310
Formation stuff is kinda tricky.
Each class does different shit at different rows.
But stuff like buffs happen only when you rotate squad, so you can't just keep buff units on buff rows, you have to rotate them to trigger, and thus think ahead rotation schedule.

>>16565433
Oh nice, that worked for me.

0.5% is too jewish for me. Aigis is already bad enough at 3%.

>>16565466
Not for me, unfortunately. But seeing that lots of people are reporting the same error, it should get a fix soon. (with apology gems of course.)

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Cool game you got there, devs. Owabi stones when?

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>>16565457
Enemies also have cd for their skill so you are supposed to rotate your formation to tank/recover/buffing your team.

The collab is pretty simple, just reach level 30 in FKG.

How is the auto in Girls Symphony?

>>16565479
Tried cache clear and running it from different pc, same error on synthesis.
I hope at least they don't require tutorial clear to be eligible for apology stones.

>>16565538
The game will explode if you try to do synthesis after you finished the tutorial.
It also crashed during battle result too.

That Symphony game is the one created by FKG devs a while ago?

>>16565565
Yes, its same company and they work on both games from same office, with same producer for both games. They showed some Symphony shit when were doing video-tour of their office during last FKG nico stream.

【緊急メンテナンスのお知らせ】
2月14日15:00より緊急メンテナンスを実施します。

haha

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>>16565475
Speaking of 0.5%, I hope they're as generous in GS as they are with FKG crystals. Rolled 4x at the start of this gacha period and got "only" the two new golds, and this is from rolling once more with the heap of crystals since then.

>>16565575
Urgent maintenance on launch day is staple of DMM games, even god-tier devs can't evade it.

>>16565565
Yes, the UI is almost exact the same as FKG, with some changes for the battle formation system and the skill up panel for the girls.
Which is nice because they carried over almost all the improvements they made for FKG after 2 years.

Cute merchant turned out to be plat rogue. What the fuck, why would they add yet another rogue? One of most useless classes.

>>16565609
Half the classes are useless in Aigis desu. And they keep adding more and more.

Can Standard raids in Kamihime net you a good loot? Even an SR weapon counts as good to me.
I just nearly solo'd one and got fuckall. Even with Snatch up.

>>16565656
They do, but with very shitty rate.

>>16565613
Every class is useful if you have a gacha black for it.

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Reminds me of the time I got my 4th Agni axe in DMM.
The SR+ ticket I used gave me Beelzebub's weapon once already.

>>16565415
Truly a game by FKG devs.

>>16565415
>giving out 3 free rainbows for prereg
As expected of FKG devs.

I only got 1, though, since I wasn't too interested. Oh well.

>>16565213
>>16563049
>>16563065
You guys are thinking too hard about it. Unless protag is involved in the scene it's safe to assume it happened in the past or in some alternate reality.

I'm not the fan of rape myself, so I tend to skip such scenes, but reverse rape, vanilla and proactive female character scenes tend to give me a solid boner in Kamihime.

My live2d sprites are rather laggy in Girls Symphony, does anyone else have them like that?
If I lose window focus - they stop moving, but that's not the issue.

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I like this 'different actions based on classes+rows' system, kinda reminds of Soul Nomad.

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>>16565415
Somehow managed to roll two 4*s in my first 150 crystals. Too bad one was a dupe.

On the other hand I've been playing FKG for almost 500 days and only have 2 rainbows.

Anyone have any left over accounts for Kamihime? i miss the prerolling and now i'm stuck with a bunch of shit.

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Well, well. They put a bit of extra effort.

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>Well-known and acknowledged developer
>Story is voiced
>Each girl sub-episode is voiced
>H-scenes are voiced and have walls of text
>Even login bonus is voiced
>Plenty of voiced lines outside of those
>Each girl has unique live2d animations
>Each girls has unique battle animations
>Battles system has different layers to it, no matter how shallow they may feel, still better than FKG
I'm glad we get such high-quality games on DMM once in a while. Praise FKG devs.

>>16566578
You forgot the most important part:

>It makes your notebook CPU explode since they made a fucking flash game in 2017

Aside from that (and the random connection problems), I'm quite positively surprised. Hopefully they'll release the mobile version soon.

>>16566578
Calm down, fanboy-kun.
It's a fucking same asset from FKG.

>>16564582
>And the hardcore contents have been decreasing greatly with the recent updates
Well that's a damn shame.

Anyone playing that venus game in the mobile? Can't seem to connect.

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Made a quick translation for row actions in Girls Symphony if anyone's interested.

I wonder why Sorcerers don't get any actions beside attacking in the front row? I don't have any so I can only assume that their attack or skill is more powerful/aoe.

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>>16566863
This is what I get even when I logged in the PC version with IP set as JP. Any moonreaders that can enlighten me?

>>16566971
I get the same thing. Are you using Chrome? They said in the news that Chrome is 'getting errors and visual bugs' and recommend using Firefox.

>>16566980
Yup I'm using chrome, but the funny thing is, my mobile app is also saying the same thing, so what gives.

>>16566989
No clues, honestly. Some japanese players also constantly get this error.

>pests are stealing yams to survive the winter and feed their young
>WHO CARES ABOUT THAT FUCKING KILL THEM ALL
Flower gerus don't fuck around

>>16567065
Suddenly Lavender doesn't seem so scary.

>all dose raid bosses in Nutaku FKG
Tempted to spend a couple of flower gems on refills. Is that wise?

>>16566578
It certainly looks pretty promising and has very good production values, should it should do very well unless they mess things up hard. It's still vomiting errors every once in a while, but I guess that's just part for the course with a DMM launch. They are also already vomiting apology pebbles, so there's that too.

Only 4 levels of rarity is a bit strange, but as long as there isn't a giant power gap between 3* and 4* (as in 4* and 6* in FKG, but with no 5* in between to round things up) it should be alright. But hey, nothing to do but wait and see, the game just launched.

>>16567095
No, just ignore anything that isn't a allyoucaneater and make sure you're hitting it as hard as you can or it won't die within the first hour.

>>16567110
They die fast anyways because everyone is all over the event at the moment, directly after the maintenance.

>>16567115
Mine took 30 minutes with all the chucklefucks hitting for nothing, if only they were on my friendslist so I could kick them. Another is even longer despite 15 people having hit it.
Not fun when you want to do other things and get it out the way fast.

>>16567065
To be fair, the Pests have ravaged and destroyed a good number of cities.

Reminds me of the fireworks event when they were about to let the pests go until they realized they were stockpiling the gunpowder to blow things up.

This whole social aspect of Kamhime is just too weird to me.
It's non-existant in Aigis, and severely limited in FKG.
In Kamihime you outright communicate and organize in other people.

>>16567283
How are ampys best used in FKG?

>>16567283
Exactly like Granblue. Better find a good guild.

>>16567286
Uhh, whoops. Didn't mean to quote.

>>16567290
I'm in the jaypee one, I assume most of us here are primo autists and will be on top, or at least somewhat competent.
4chan communities are usually cancerous for their own reasons, but they know how to play games and tryhard.

>>16567283
In DMM you mean? In Nutaku right now we are setting raids between two guys at most. And it's not like it matters that much, just being a little bit more efficient for those SR eido and weapons.

Dunno about union events though. I'm not really sure how those work.

>>16567305
No, I did mean Nutaku.
Like, for example, the daily quests force you to greet a different player.

>>16567311
Just dump a stamp and be done with it man. I don't think anyone in the guild will mind. Feel free to spam them onto the guildmaster.

>>16567305
Union events have union only raid bosses that you need to kill over and over again to gain score and kill counts, which unlock milestone rewards.
Their level gets higher the more you kill them, and unlike GBF guild war, you don't actually competitive against other unions.

What does an orange "+1" on my Eidolon's icon mean?

>>16567326
>>16567311

Well, a Discord was made but hopefully it isn't really needed. I just made one so we wouldn't spam the BGR guild chat with Kamihime stuff. I doubt anyone was truly bothered by it but eh.

At the very least the guild is full of active people and the overall ranks are high I would say. Now to see how many remain after the initial rush.

>>16567336
You get a small bonus, 1 point of atk and HP I think. If you feed that one to another you will transfer that +1, and if you merge two +1 you get a +2. I think +50 is the limit but I'm not sure.

>>16567339
Are they random bonuses? Can you get them from R's from the normal gacha?

>>16567357
I've gotten +1 weapons and Eidolons from the Gem gacha, albeit rarely. Just fuse them onto your favorite units for a small boost.

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>if you get an SSR duplicate you get a Draconic Eye
>but if you get an SR duplicate you get diddly squat, fuck you :^)

Who designed this shit

>>16567380
>Implying you'll actually get a SSR dupe (without sperm-whaling)

>>16567388
That is exactly my point. The odds for getting a second SSR are miniscule. The odds for getting a second SR not so much. Therefore your odds of getting fucked by a duplicate SR draw are higher.

>>16567414
Draconic Eyes are for pandering to the whales anyway. So nothing can be done about that.

>People already join raids and just afk in them
What the fuck
Do they not realize the exp and rewards you get are for participation?
I have 7 people in a raid right now and only 1 of them is attacking.
I'm down myself as the vice-MVP.

>>16567446
And then they gated your beloved hime awaken form behind these shit.
Another example of them taking stuff from GBF and made it worse so people could whale harder.

I keep getting idea cores from raid bosses in Kamihime. What are they for? I can't seem to find any way to limit break my eidolons or weapons too...

Also, do Eidolons get scenes? Diabolos gets one, is she an exception or something?

>>16567482
Limit break materials for your Kamihimes.
To limit break eidolons and weapons you need copies of them.
Only SSR eidolons have scenes, Diabolos and a future SR being the exceptions.

>>16567482
You need dupes to limit break your eidolons and weapons, the cores you get from raids are limit break materials for kamihime.
>Also, do Eidolons get scenes? Diabolos gets one, is she an exception or something?
All SSR Eidolons have one scene, SR wise, only Diabolos and Bug Bear have scene. And Bug Bear is only available as Nico stream reward.

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>>16564624
It's just your 3 highest level units that give

>>16567497
>>16567503
In other words, I can safely dump all the R eidolons I get as fodder?

>>16567519
All the R, and most of the SR eidolons are worthless junk, except the SR dragoons and the one thunder SR that increases drop rate.

How do I acquire this item?
It says you get it on dailies, but I've been pretty generously farming them and have yet to see it.
Does it not drop on advanced missions? The expert dailies wreck me.

Is it worth break limiting SR Kamihimes? The mats keep getting higher and higher.

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>>16567539
Forgot image

>>16567545
You can combine the lower tier one in the shop for that, but I only seen it drop in expert dailies.

>>16567543
SR himes will be your main force for a long time. At least try to lb3 them for the 2nd scenes and skill upgrades.

>>16567543
It's worth breaking even R ones, eventually you'll want to build multiple specific element-focused parties for raids.

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Woah there.
They seriously went with it on Nutaku.
Spoilers for Diabolos' scene.

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>>16567505
>I got a little girl to give me chocolate

>>16566882
God bless you, anon.

>>16567136
The worst part is that the Nutaku playerbase will, by and large, condone and encourage this shitty behavior across multiple games. I've argued with them about it before, particularly for FKG and X-Overd.

>>16567286
Match to the color of the girl for a bonus, other than that do whatever.

>>16567551
Got one from standard gold chest, you might as well go expert tho.

>>16567681
How do you handle expert? I have a full level 40 Kamihime party and it's hard as hell.

>>16567586
So who is responsible for this being probably the best localization effort from Nutaku? Did Kamihime devs insist on this or the localization team understood there's too much to censor so fuck it?

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NZN is pretty tame compared to this girl.

>>16568056
I'm glad you can also bounce her boobs, although not as bouncy as Nazuna's.

>>16568056
This game is surprisingly darker compared to FKG.
Also, does 'oshioki' here what I think it is? I have only played the all-ages version.

>>16568084
She chained the enemy girl in a cage, then double penetrated her with a strap on.

>>16568056
Yeah, that surprised me. I expected the opposite.

>>16567883
Make sure your elemental bonuses from weapons and eidolons match up and you have an element matching team of Kamihimes as well. Then you have to worry about skilling up your weapons as well. My team on DMM trashes Expert SP Dailies but I get my ass beat on Expert Event Maps.

>>16568084
FKG is all over the place when it comes to dark

Events: Oh no, some pests stole knight school diplomas and we must get them back (cue Yakety Sax)

Character quests: My parents died in a pest attack on Christmas and I became a knight to avoid starving

>>16567586
Just got that one myself last night and was pleasantly surprised.

Are the new maps in Aigis worth farming for unit XP or should I continue to stick to Base Scramble 2?

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How long does loading normally take? It's been 15min already.

>>16568328
2-3 seconds

>>16568333
Damn

>>16568163
Wait, weapon bonuses count except for the main weapon? How does that even work?
The passive effects stack nine times?
Fuck, there's so much shit about mechanics I have no clue about.

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>>16568093
I went to the co.jp site just to confirm this, but HOLY SHIT, the game in pic has a 18+ version too!?
I thought Marvelous was a clean company?

>>16568207
I feel that since this time we're fighting an evil organization instead of just (arguably) mindless pests, the main story plot seems a bit serious this time. Like, poison gas?

If you need copies of eidolos to limit break them, how do you limit break Diabolos?

>>16568399
Jesus christ is that a shitty Osawari Island clone?

>>16568414
That brat is just unlucky. Cannot break limits even after around 1 year since the game started.

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So for anyone playing GS, I'm guessing these things are for unlocking slots on the event girl?

I had some in my box, I think from pre-reg or something, no idea why, but it looks like they're only usable on her to unlock slots. I mean if they're just event items, that's great, I'll save myself the farming, but it's weird that I already had some.

>>16568444
I think they are apology items since the server was crashing left and right during the battle result screen.

>>16568498
That would make sense. Well it does help with the farming. We have a while for this event, but there's a lot to get in the character, skill items, slot items, and evolution items. Guess I'll take it.

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>tfw you check Kamihime to go reroll for an SSR
>Campaign is over
>No SSRs on like a week of rolling in 5 accounts
I fucking hate gachas. Alrighty lads it was a good run but it's over I'm not playing a kusosage without a headstart.

>>16568556
The only SSRs in the pre-reg were Eidolons anyways. As long as you got an SR Kamihime you already have a headstart.

>>16568563
Except the SSR Eidolons were worth more because the SR Kamihimes don't even come with their weapon

>>16568563
Oh okay. Well, I can't seem to play the game anyways. Nutaku tells me the game still isn't out even though I've heard about people playing through it.
Thanks either way Anon.

>>16568591
You don't really lose anything important in a long run, since most of the gacha SR weapons are trash and would be replaced as soon as the event weapons start rolling out. Being able to limit break your weapons is the most important thing in this game.

Is there a good way to get iron gearwheels or are people going to have to farm low level story quests just to craft shit in this game? Seems like fully equipping somebody is going to be way harder than FKG at least.

>>16568591
SR Weapons are crap in the long run anyways because everyone spams SSR Weapons. And only a specific like 2-3 SSR Eidolons were worth getting, because the SSR Pool was bloated with SSR Dragoons that are only good if you happen to get lucky with rolls and got a bunch of good mono-elemental Kamihimes. And even then, unless you get multiple copies to Limit Break, you'd replace most of the SSRs that didn't have an absolutely amazing Call Effect, because you can't Limit Break without multiple copies, meanwhile Event Eidolons are SSR that you can farm multiple copies for.

>>16568604
Canada (and certain parts of Europe) early release, just like every other Nutaku game. Global release is tomorrow.

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THIS FUCKING MISSION
THIS FUCKING PEST NODE
FUCK
IT

>>16568788
Just wait until it gets swapped out for an easier map like on DMM.

>>16568853
They actually switched the node layout?

How long is that gonna take on Nutaku? A year?

>>16568863
Five minutes.

>>16568863
Depends on how they prioritize it. You're already way behind on a bunch of content you should have by now.

>>16568399
>I feel that since this time we're fighting an evil organization instead of just (arguably) mindless pests, the main story plot seems a bit serious this time.

They did mention a few times that the main story was written by the same dude who wrote (for?) Psycho Pass.

>>16567065
There was Deiji's char quest where she defended couple with a child against some pests and then noticed that pests were couple with a kid too, and Deiji was sad about it but later decided that genociding pests is okay because its "either we or them".

>>16568878
>>16568887
Seriously, the RNG on those turning point nodes on missions is driving me insane. I can spend a whole day worth of stamina on trying to properly clear one.
If it's a confirmed fact that they will make it easier to get all three medals on them then I might just ignore them until then.

>>16567971
As long as the localization staff is not Hippowhatever, I guess we are safe?

In fact, who is in charge of handling Kamihime in Nutaku?

>>16568994
IIRC, it's the JP dev team.

>>16569083
That's a good sign, as long as they don't end up like the devtea of Aigis.

If I want to farm the materials in the story mission areas, do I do main quests or sub quests?

>>16568929
Too pure for this world.

Why have I heard opinion that Nutaku FKG is relatively well-off from the development perspective?
It's missing a shitton of features.

>>16569194
Compared to every other game on Nutaku that is failing miserably and gets zero support it's doing alright I guess.

>>16569194
The lack of character quests is annoying, but at least they're finally getting around to it. Nation battles, ultimate maps, and increased raid points would be nice too, but not complete dealbreakers.

On the flip side, there's also the perks that people have been taking for granted, like autorun and stamina refund, and the actually good deals that show up every once in a while, such as the 11-roll + guaranteed gold deals, $10 11-roll + any rainbow on Black Friday, or the free Christmas ticket that gave everyone a 50% chance to roll a rainbow.

>>16569218
>The lack of character quests is annoying
Do those even do anything

>>16569331
Character-specific accessories. And gems after bloom, I think.

>>16569218
>there's also the perks that people have been taking for granted, like autorun and stamina refund,

Autorun sucks. An autoclicker is better. It would be useful if they upped the speed on it. Stamina refund is good, though.

>>16569218
>the actually good deals that show up every once in a while, such as the 11-roll + guaranteed gold deals

Those are good, but they're basically the only way to have any reasonable amount of gold units since Nutaku cheaps out on gems so hard. In the same time it takes for one of those to show up and you to roll it with free gems, you could have two to three times as many golds or more from free gems in DMM.

They're not doing you a favor. They're placating you.

>>16569471
Autorun is fine, just switch tabs and play another game aswell to save time.

Its just as easy to get less gold units in the same time on DMM where it depends on luck only. Atleast on Nutaku you know you're getting atleast one gold. Its fairly equal to get free golds on both sides but its storage and rainbows that wins out on DMM, for whales Nutaku is better even if some of their shit is awful.

Also I saw a whale spend 30 dollars on the rainbow of their choice on Nutaku today and they bought a dupe to act as a skill/dressbloom.

>>16569331
Story for your favourite girl is important.

>>16568328
Try using a different browser.

This game keeps giving me the same 3 gacha golds even though they aren't on rate up.

>>16569194
Does the Nutaku version have the Blooming evolution yet?

>>16569471
>They're not doing you a favor. They're placating you.

Is there really a reason for them to do milestone campaigns and hand out freebies like DMM does?

I've already come to accept that we're not the DMM market, so we don't need to be catered to as many freebies.

Would it be nice if they showered us with as many gems as they do on DMM? Sure, but as Nutaku's audience, or the western audience as a whole (based on other mobage) has proven, they don't need to hand out freebies on a regular basis to keep us happy.

People are happy to spend as long as the deals aren't shit, and the rest will take whatever freebies they offer. Then a select few will proceed to bitch about the freebies, and complain the whole game is P2W.

>>16568898
>They did mention a few times that the main story was written by the same dude who wrote (for?) Psycho Pass.
Decided to check on this. Apparently it's this person.

https://myanimelist.net/people/4169/Makoto_Fukami

>>16569632
No, and it likely won't for a while. They're quite a ways off.

>>16569655
Dang. I just evolved my Cosmos and I really wanted to get her Bloomed version. Guess I'll have to patiently wait then. Kind of regret not starting on DMM now...

Thanks for the quick reply though.

>>16568399
The Bunmei Guild uses robots that are powered by torturing music spirits, to kill everyone who likes music.

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Who else loves this feeling of superiority?

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Trying out Girls Symphony.

The game loaded fine but everytime I start チュートリアル１－１, it gives me this black screen. At first I think it might be loading assets, but my network activity is telling me that my browser (IE) isn't doing anything. Clearing cache doesn't help.

Does this happen to anyone else?

>>16569780
The only problem I had during the tutorial was a crash during the part where you level a unit, but then when I came back into the game it had put me on the next step automatically. Never had that particular issue.

When are the girls symphony crossover event rewards going to be given out on FKG? I got to level 25 but I haven't gotten anything

>>16569936
Looks like rewards are going to be given out on 3/15 for both games, if I'm not mistaken.

>>16567633
ban please

>>16570006
jelly?

Just started the dmm Kamihime a week ago cuz didnt want to wait... how do you hit hard and do dmg? I got 1 SSR weapon and a bunch of SR that i believe is matching with the auto sort thing but everyone hits for like ~600-1.4k which doesn't seem like a lot.

Any anons could inform me what I'm doing wrong? Also all the himes are lvl 30, the leader is still the default one at max i think and my eidolons i never see them help out.

>>16570153
Higher level characters, summons, whatever they decided to name your character's classes, higher level weapons, higher level weapon skills, unkowns/baha weapons if that's even a thing in that piece of shit.

>>16570195
They don't even have magna weapons in this game, let alone unknown or baha weapons.

>>16570208
So is there only form of progression waiting for event SSRs and character weapons?

>>16570006
You sound slightly jealous.

>>16570246
More or less, yes. Events are your only reliable source of SSR weapons.
I think the Kamihime devs have terrible trauma with magna grinding in GBF. Despite having magna/ragnarok version of the 6 normal raids, it only drop special tokens, which used for exchanging soul/class exclusive weapons.

>>16570246
Level up your Spirits (Leader) instead if the default one is at max level, skilling up your weapons (not much point other than the SSR maybe). And the obvious way to tell if your weapon skills are matching is by looking at the element. Weapons as far as I've seen (both on Nutaku and DMM) only buff their own element. So compare the element of the weapons to the element of your Kamihimes. There's also a thing on the main team screen that tells you how many buffs from weapons your girls are getting. Make sure your leader is the same element as the rest of your girls (she's the same element as the main weapon you have equipped on her). Also start Limit Breaking your girls so they can go past 30.

>>16570300
Why did they copy a game if they were just going to do a shit job of it? Granblue is even in English, why are idiots playing this piece of shit?

>>16570385
Because in Kamihime you can fuck the waifus- I mean, sorry, you can watch them get gang raped.

>tfw didn't prereg for Girls Symphony
I've made a terrible mistake

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>>16570006
This a better little girl for you?

How is girl's symphony so far? Pretty much FKG with live2d and music?

>>16570906
So far I have no clue what the hell I'm doing in it.
Game is scary and hard.
My team dies to everything.

>>16570906
Combat is completely different.

I'm having fun so far, not sure how to progress from where I'm at though.

>>16570951
Pretty much the same for me
>click both autos
>click start
>go on 4chan

>>16570906
Same crappy rate as FKG, 0.5% for highest rarity girls, so you get quite a huge advantage if you can roll 3 4* girls during prereg.
Improved gameplay with formation switching, position and skill trigger. Losing a girl will deny your 3* completion so a bit of thinking and grinding are required.
>>16570955
That works until you reach the later maps of the story quest.

>>16570906
There's no RNG map bullshit, so it has that going for it.

Presentation is phenomenal. Gameplay is okay.

>>16570987
I really wish they worked more on gameplay. The FKG devs have everything top notch except their games feel so boring to play.

Another 150 SC and no blacks. I'm so fucking frustrated I need to walk away from the game for a month.

>>16571049
I know the feeling anon, you can do it next time, I believe.

>>16571049
If you spend another 150 right now you are pretty much guaranteed to get blacks, trust me.

>>16570605
Teenagers don't count as little girls.

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She any good?

>>16571109
Best meido

>>16571109
Core character for dark team.

Is Sol the only loli ssr in Kamihime Nutaku right now?

>>16571123
>core
I'm tired of this meme.

Wow, the new FKG stream code from NND is available to use immediately instead of in a month for once. Hope they keep it that way. I hate sitting on these things. Pretty sure I forgot to redeem one once because it took so long before it was valid.

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ahh, and I was just in the middle of rerolling

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https://twitter.com/Aigis1000/status/831699611051925504/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Looks chuuni.

>>16571274
Another new class?

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Who should get my ampys? Or are

>>16571291
Had to go check the tweet because holy fuck what am I looking at.

It's a majin, apparently, like Rakshasa and Lulu.

>>16571298
Except she's cute

wtf i love majins now

How long does Kamihime maint last?

>>16571321
At least 2 hours

>>16571274
Okay wat. I went to read the tweets on this and I could be wrong, but it looks like her base skill is 2x attack/defense/magic defense for 30 seconds. Her SAW is 2x magic defense and -13x- defense, block becomes 3, reflect half enemy damage back.

What the fuck, this is a plat unit.

>>16571309
Lulu's cuter, though.

>>16571332
I don't see a duration on that SAW. Surely they omitted it for good reason.

>>16571356
I assumed it was the same as the original. And my guess is that it would probably be a one-time use. That's assuming they actually meant 13x and not 1.3x (and 1.3x would probably be a downgrade, IMO, even with the 3 block).

I can only put 7 girls at once in Girls Symphony?

>>16571274
>スキル覚醒『不可侵の紅眼』魔法耐性が2.0倍、防御力が13倍！ ブロック数3となり敵の攻撃力の 半分のダメージで反撃
Ahahaha, personal Furfur for Prince team, and of course its fucking premium summon.

>>16571631
Explain yourself.

>>16571631
Am I seeing this right? Defense multiplied by 13?

>>16571649
Yes. And half of attack is reflected back to enemies, while blocking 3.

Aigis really IS dying if they have to resort to power creeping units like this.

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Is Immortal Karma any good? I don't have any blacks yet, so I am tempted to spend my SCs on stam and cha in order farm up the memory crystals required to buy her.

Or would I just be better off spending them on the gatcha and crossing my fingers?

Seems whole nutaku site is failing right now.

>>16571715
Black Karma is cheat-tier unit. She can become completely invulnerable for 13 seconds, tanking anything in the game.

>>16571721
High hopes for the future

>>16571727
Oh damn. Looks like I know what I'll be doing this weekend.
>300 Memory Crystals to buy her
I guess I know why.

>>16569724
That's actually nice way to kill him, adopted this strat too.

>>16571693
This is nothing compared to Lapis.

>>16571774
And Lapis doesn't even have an AW yet

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Sasuga FKG devs.

>>16571798
To be expected since it's new and from a known company. Wait a bit and see where it ends up.

>>16571733
Anya is 800

>>16572015
Is she worth it?

Last day for the Makai event tomorrow, finally finished that 70/6 map of the first week. and only got 2 stars on the last two maps, planning to get a 3 on the final match one, 25 stars all in all. How is your event anons?

>>16571788
Hope they won't nerf her, having an easy run on events because of her, and I just started last January.

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I wasn't expecting something like this.

>>16572343
That looks fuckin neato.

>>16572343
Not the first one to implement this kind of this but my guess is that Shironeko Project got system to be more appreciated and widely popular.

>>16572343
It's a neat idea but I'm slightly worried that the bonuses will be useless aside from the ability unlocks and that getting the materials to unlock the spheres will be a massive grind for little returns.

I have no idea how the Lv2 board looks like, though. Maybe there are better stat bonuses there.

>>16572343
What abilities you learn this way usually do? Are they passives? How much depth do they have?

>>16572426
My moon knowledge is near-nonexistent but I assume they work like FKG's. You can check each character's abilities on their status screen without unlocking them though, which is nice.

>>16572374
I had the same concerns when I noticed it. Hopefully if that ends up being the case they'll change it at some point.

>kamihime wont load
ill try it later. if it stays the same, time to drop this before even playing.

>>16572426
Passives. Seems like every girl has 2 abilities regardless of their rarity, but the effects are pretty insignificant. It's all either 10% or 15% to one of the girl's stats or 5% bonus to a stat for girls on the same row. In one way this is good since there's little to no disparity between the abilities of different rarities (in FKG, 3* or 4* girls had completely useless abilities compared to 5* and 6*), but on the other hand the bonuses are so small that I doubt it makes up for the stat differences.

It's also disappointing that the abilities themselves are all, as far as I can tell, boring stat boosts. The developers should have added more interesting abilities to make full use of the rotation system, which has potential but as far as team building and synergy goes it needs a bit more work.

>>16572156
not really

>>16572601
I see, thanks.
Well considering how less facerolly GS looks for now compared to FKG, even 5-10% hp/attack boost probably helps.

I'm more concerned that the game has status effects/debuffs and they seem to be exclusive to enemies. Devs could do a great job if they added buffs and debuffs into character kits somehow beyond the battle row system.

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Is it worth it? I don't have any other light-aligned Kamihime at all

>>16572887
Sure, you will get those mats back pretty soon.