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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air superiority calculator/fleet builder:
http://aircalc.net
http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html
http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html

Combat mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me

Drop/construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices/sprites/furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/silfumus/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

The KanColle movie was released on 2016 November 26. Movie trailers: https://youtu.be/7udGu_a0AvY https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E https://youtu.be/aTxaSuB_Fv8

Debuffs exist for the E3 boss, for the E5 map, and for the E5 boss fleet. Debuffing the E5 map will open a new starting point closer to the boss. Debuffing the E3 boss and the E5 boss fleet lowers their armour, making them easier to kill. How to debuff (current speculation):
-To debuff the E3 boss: acquire in E2 a perfect air defence against the two air raids twice each, and perfect S at air raid nodes A, G, K and L once each, and in E3 acquire S ranks at nodes C, D, H and J once each, and A rank at node K once.
-To debuff the E5 map: acquire in E5 S ranks at node A thrice for Kou (hard)/twice for Otsu (medium)/once for Hei (easy) modes, and at nodes C, G and H once each, and a perfect air defence against each of the two air raids once each.
-To debuff the E5 boss fleet: acquire in E5 S ranks at node P twice and at nodes K, M, N, O and U once each, a perfect air defence against an air raid four more times, and sink 10 enemy transport ships total in nodes A and F.
-For Hei (easy) mode, land bases taking 0 damage (including misses) is sufficient to count as perfect air defence. For other difficulty levels, all enemy planes need to be shot down to count as perfect air defence, which can be achieved with AS+ or (sometimes) AS.

For the E5 map debuff, a cutscene will play revealing the second starting point.
For the boss debuffs, if you hear the quest completion jingle when you return to base after a sortie, it means the debuff is successful. You only get to hear it once per successful debuff. While the E3 and E5 boss debuffs are active, the bosses will have different sprites and voice lines on encounter.
WARNING: For E5, debuffs will reset if switching difficulties, unless if switching from Otsu (medium) to Hei (easy) or vice versa.

News:
-The Autumn 2016 Event has started. It consists of 3 standard operations and 2 extra operations, for a total of 5 maps. The event will end on December 7, at 11:00.
-The ships implemented for this event are drops Yamakaze (E2, E3) and Asakaze (E4, E5), E3 reward Commandant Teste, and E5 reward Saratoga.
-Late Autumn voice lines (including Wine of Autumn voice lines) have been implemented. The other autumn voice lines have been removed.
-"That type" of aircraft and a new system will finally be introduced in autumn or later.
-The next Kai 2 will be for a CA.
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If I'm going to node A on E5 do I need to send boss expedition support for it so show up? Or does it show up with the node support expedition one?
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Aoba-san!
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>>16186169
It's not a boss node.
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>>16186172
What a whore.
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>>16186169

See >>16186169. You only need node support for those runs.
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>>16186183
Your face is a whore. Aoba a cute! Not as cute as Kinugasa, but still cute!
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Any kuso collage pics up yet?
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>>16186217
If anyone's working on one, I would like to reiterate my previous recommendation that we include Tilted Tone in the collage. Truly the highlight of the event.
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>>16186156
>and a perfect air defence against each of the two air raids once each.
I thought it was twice. I wasted resources for nothing. Fuck.
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>>16186239
Once each. Twice total.
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>>16186249
I thought it was two perfect defenses in one sortie, twice. Either way, at least that shit's out of the way.
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Yamakaze is CUTE!!!!!!
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What is she doing?
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>>16186306
>yamashitgure
>cute
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>>16186327
Making Zuikaku's life even more miserable.
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So, how many predictions did Sara fulfill?
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>>16186378
You can't bingo this shit.
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>>16186378
>CVB
>Hemorragies
>Crossposter
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>>16186378

I'm happy I was wrong in so many of then since that bingo was just me preparing myself for some very bad scenarios.
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>>16186378
Kill yourself.
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>>16186403
Muh NImu Line is true, Saratoga is just a bit nervous and trying to keep the sub at arms legnth
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>>16186403
>Re fodder
You fed Sara to Re?
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>>16186403
>Re fodder
Where?

Also the fighters are still worse than Reppuu.
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Fucking Resources

Can't clear 2-4
Can't get to 3-2
Can't grind
Can't clear event

NEVER ENDING SUFFERING
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>>16186403
Nippon CVs are the only ones to have a K2. Shouldn't be surprising they are the best.
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>>16186417
Or she forgot she existed.
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>>16186442
Taihou is better even without Kai Ni.
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>>16186457
Because she's an Armored Carrier, obviously. That's why people are ranking her below them.
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Ok. I was on my last dance for 3 hours but I didn't even see the final formation of boss node yet.
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>>16186403
>Re fodder
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>>16186457
Taihou is also LSC and misses a lot.
Saratoga is Kaga/Akagi tier. Good for beginners.
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>>16186486
Sara is good for everyone
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>>16184987
Pretty much used this and got through debuffing a lot easier than expected. After getting the 2 defenses out of the way sending planes instead to various nodes to help with anti air made it a cake walk to reach A and S rank it consistently. Even managed to shoot all of wo's planes down at G in one run.
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Why is Wikia so dumb?
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>>16186486
>Saratoga is Kaga/Akagi tier. Good for beginners.
I find her better actually and she's good for everyone.
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>>16186489
Well she is at least useable on event maps, unlike the two European-axis carriers. Plus she contributes a lot to AA in Kai form.
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>>16186490
Well, I'm glad it helped, if that's what you meant. Let me know if you need anything else.
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>>16186494

There are only chompy in 1-1 because that is your territory, not theirs. As maps progress, you enter deeper and deeper into their territory, that is the only true explanation to it, nothing more.
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>>16186494
Amazing, this thread has already started off with some really retarded statements and yet these idiots always take the cake, good job wikia.
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>>16186494
Okay, what the hell is this person talking about and what point is he or she trying to make?
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>>16186494
What is with this make Humanity proud rhetoric? It's not just this guy.
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Never forget the true heroes of this war.
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>>16186531
Kiddies who grew up on Attack on Titan.
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>can't S rank the second air node before node A
What the fuck.
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>>16186530
Since it's in the comments section for this article, probably something related to this.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Abyssal_Jellyfish_Princess

>She is the first Abyssal ship that takes the form of a mass of aquatic lifeforms rather than a ship. This is likely represented in her CG, as she doesn't possesses any form of Aircraft launching kit or landing strip whatsoever.
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They're back
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>>16186306
Link to tweet please?
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>>16186500
I didn't get Aquilla, is she that much shit?
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>>16186583
Very much shit. I was farming for I-26 on E-3 last event when I got her as my consolation prize instead.

Cute to look at, not very good at anything else.
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>>16186583
No, she's even worse.
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>>16186583
You be the judge.
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>>16186575
>Back of Souryuu's head
For what purpose
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>>16186587
For the fiftieth time, she honestly should've been classified a CVL
Cute though
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>>16186583
Worse than a CVL-tier. Cheapest CV to use but not by much and you might as well use an Unryuu instead.
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>>16186592
I don't think anyone would deny that.
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>>16186592
Even as a CVL she wouldn't be great, but at least we would have another fast one.
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>>16186536
Fairies are weird beings.
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The last time I had to re-level plane veterancy ranks this aggressively, I was running E-5 Hard during Spring. E-5 (this season) sure runs through them like no tomorrow.
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>>16186614
Speaking of this, does putting bombers in the first slot make them level up faster? I fee like it does sometimes, but that is most likely my bad observation skills.
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>>16186624
There's a damage bonus associated with the first slot (at maximum veterancy).

Not sure about levelling them up more quickly, though. I feel like I've seen that somewhere, but I can't remember where.
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>>16186592
In the end, I guess our only hope is independence-class or the Colossus class(though those have a max speed 25 knots and thus would be slow) for more CVLs. Oh and I think someone said if the Devs add her, Ibuki would also be a CVL.
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>>16186646
Maybe Saipan or her sister ship if the devs wanted to be extremely generous-The ship was finished after WW2 after all. Besides that yea, Indie is the only fast CVL.
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Any able to explain how they determine range for the nodes?
Does Tanaka just throw numbers at random?
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What is the use of shitty damecon anyway when it brings up your girl to taiha anyway? The goddess is the way to go.
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>>16186667
The top right of the map is what makes no sense, the boss route is okay for the most part.
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Do the Crossroads ships get the same damage bonus at E-5 when used in support expeditions?
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>>16186699
yes
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I SPARKLE EVERYONE OF THE SHIPS AND THIS IS THE FIRST NODE

ARHGREJRHGGGHHHH

FUCK YOIU

ALL THE ROUTE AND BOSS SUPPORT SPARKLES ARE GONE TOOO
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>>16186699
If they do. Then it's boss support only. That said I would only do this with Nagato as the other two are needed for Yasen.
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>>16186711

This is why you just get everything to 85/100 for E-4 Hard, and then begin your runs.

Read manga or watch anime or something while you're at it.
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>>16186716
>not having 2x Nagato 3x Sakawa 3x Prinz Eugen
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>>16186699
RTA streamers already tried, no.
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>>16186717

I was. This was the second run. The first end with Hatsuzuki consuming a damecon at the last pre-boss node for nothing because that was the first time I use something like that and didn't know she revived will red hp.
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>>16186711
At least you made it to the boss lol
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>>16186731
That isn't the boss, anon. That's the first air battle node, the first node on the map.
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>>16186731
That's not the boss you retard.
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>>16186711
This is why you just don't give a fuck about sparkling for E-4 Hard and use a light fleet.

Tab to 4chan and funpost between nodes while you're at it.
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>>16186612
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>>16186729

Consider moving Hatsuzuki to flagship position for better(?) proc rate on AACI. Akizuki was my flag throughout my LD runs, and I used a fleet composition that was virtually identical to yours. Locked Kaga to the map instead of Graf, though. I wanted her slots for better fighter power.
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If I stick my third Sakawa in my support fleet she'll do nuclear damage right
I can count on her right
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>>16186754
No.
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Pre-boss node all the crucial nodes are covered by support, all are going well.

Got 2 ships in yellow hp after the final pre-boss node.

Get AS in the boss node.

AND THIS FUCKING HAPPENED

NO ONE

NO FUCKING ONE

HAS ANY IDEA HOW MUCH AGONY I AM IN RIGHT NOW
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>>16186767
You agonize yourself, you think you're special and you're the only one struggling with E4?
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>>16186744

Hatsuzuki has a slot for goddess, and she is sparkled so AACI is triggered anyway.
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>>16186767
>take heavy fleet
>go through an extra node
>less fuel and ammo at boss
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>>16186754
That foot mount is retarded.
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>>16186775

You have no idea how hopeful Iwas when the AS phrase pop up in my screen.

>>16186778

Tell me how exactly light fleet is gonna get me even AP in the boss node.
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>>16186786
Do you not have 11 AA planes? You can even upgrade some Skilled 52s if you do not.
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>>16186786
Bring a CAV and a CVL. Load the CAV with seaplane fighters and the CVL with fighters.That wasn't hard.

What do you think those clearing E-4 with a light fleet are doing? Pulling AP magically out of thin air?
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>>16186767
>RJ
>Akagi
>Graf Zeppelin
>Hatsuzuki
Fleet not heavy enough.
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>>16186786

>>16175400
>>16175626
>>16175813

Less blogging on these threads, more trying. Here's my clear for reference.
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>>16186816
>Less blogging
But that's the whole point of Kancolle threads on /jp/ desu.
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>>16186821

True. It's event season after all, I suppose.
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>>16186786
>Tell me how exactly light fleet is gonna get me even AP in the boss node
Chichis with 4 fighters, they can even nuke shit with their 4 torpedo bombers, specially the planeless Ru node.
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If you love your AA Maya, remember to give thanks to Saratoga, as she is the one who caused the upgrade in the first place.
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Literally impossible to S rank
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>>16186816

I am using your setup you fucking imbecile. And you yourself even pointed out how lucky you are.

>>16186809

Yea, I considered that, but how exactly are you going to kill the boss when your CVL can't attack and there is not enough yasen equipment?
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>>16186835
Rude, now no one's going to help you. Good luck!
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>>16186830
(^:

>>16186835
I suggest 4 BB 2 CV all sparkled to 85 if you want heavy fleet.
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>>16186767

None of your ships in that fleet can kill the boss unless they pull a crit.
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>>16186835
>having problems with e4
>using heavy fleet
>not getting lucky in 2016
>still didn't clear the event by now
>he doesn't comfortably lvling his DD's at E5M by now
You deserve everything bad that is happening to you.
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>>16186830
You just need 5 ships with OASW attacks.
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>>16186860
4 OASW ships + 1 fast BB gives 2 extra attacks.
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>>16186835

>I am using your setup you fucking imbecile. And you yourself even pointed out how lucky you are.

Both of these things are true. But at least I didn't shit up a thread with a blog about how unfortunate I was up until I cleared it.
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>>16186786

>Tell me how exactly light fleet is gonna get me even AP in the boss node.

https://my.mixtape.moe/lqkstz
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>>16186859
I wish I had more OASW ships, someone is guaranteed to take damage.
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>>16186865
With ammo penalties. But whatever floats your boat, I ain't the one having problems to S rank her.
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>>16186858

The point of an AS is to crit down the boss.
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>>16186878
>A-C-F-H-L
>ammo penalty
?

inb4 >north
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>>16186878
Going north gives you the same amount of battles as going south.
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>>16186881
>>16186883
w-Wait, the FBB don't send you to the south?
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>>16186874
I am using only 3 OASW DDs because my autism don't let me take certain ships, but it doesn't make lvling less comfortable. Unless I get T-. Fuck T-.
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>>16186872

Zuikaku is basically reppuu mule. Also are the stars helping in achieving AS?
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>>16186865
The problem is that suddenly everybody does scratch damage, this is stupid. A crit is rare to land.
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>>16186887
Only if you use two.
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So I saw that the final boss was based on the mass of lifeforms on the Saratoga's bow, and I went to have a look.
Oh god what the fuck.
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>>16186893
>Also are the stars helping in achieving AS?
Yes
53 Iwamoto max = 14 AA
Skilled 52 max = 11 AA
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>>16186896
Are you getting red T at the boss every time or something?
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>>16186900

Thanks. Did you sparkle your main fleet?
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>>16186904
No, they just scratch SS Hime to taiha, sometimes they sink her, it's nowhere near as close to the past SS Hime encounters.
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>>16186859
>comfortably lvling his DD's at E5M
I'm 100 runs in now and getting paranoid. I have to check their HPs 3 times at least before I sortie because what if one of them is taiha but I didn't see it because of the red morale icon when sending them out.
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If you're sufficiently prepared and made a sacrifice to the RNG gods, you can do anything.
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>>16186933
Don't you have worry about red morale ships missing the subs?
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>>16186955
No, I have 5 OASW and they hit about 75% of the time.
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Before I started E4 I used to believe my kanmusu were strong and beautiful girls who could do anything.

Now I understand they're weak and fragile bitches who are never more than one roll away from exploding
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>>16186947
>4k fuel
We have a winner.
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My fucking dick. Thank you Maya-sama.
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>>16186947

The problem is not the resources. The problem is that I do not have time due to real life commitment in this fucking crucial week.
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>>16187006
Should've finished last week then.
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>>16186947
No buckets used. HOW?!
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>>16187006
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>>16187025
Probably chipped with subs or expendable ships.
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>>16187025
You can still run expeditions you know.
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>>16187035
>2 fleets running support exps
>1 fleet running exp 2 for an expected 5 buckets in 5 hours
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Just got my first gumo on a daily construction quest. How lucky am I?
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>>16187043
Enjoy your cute Kagerou
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>>16187016

Last week was an even rougher week than this week.

>>16187026
If only I know, I would pick easy for E4. I am not backing down after I've done so much hard work. For E5 I would do Kuso mode though.
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>>16187043
Very lucky because Akigumo is very cute!
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>>16187043
>Autumn
>gumo
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>>16187043
That's a Kagerou, not a gumo.
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>>16186224
>Tilted Tone
A what?
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>>16187112
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Is her flight deck even possible to use?
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>>16187124
Goddamn, those are some BIG aircraft carriers.
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Can't wait to get home after sparkling everyone at work to get wrecked and lose the sparkles without clearing the map!
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>>16187025
Quests
Look at the time, dailies reset.
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>>16186637
>There's a damage bonus associated with the first slot
First I've ever heard of this. Are you trying to ruse or is there proof somewhere?
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I feel like the real reward of this event is E5M leveling. This shit is cozy as fuck.

This must be how Tanaka feels when he plays on their special, private server with morale turned off. Sortie after sortie ftw.
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>>16187232
Stop posting this fucking picture, you autistic degenerate.
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>>16187232
This is cute and all, but you don't have to post it every thread.
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When do we get our own land-base girls?
I'm fine with LBAS, but I'd like it if they were personified like the Abyssal girls.
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>>16187272
Next Abyssal boss is LBAS-tan. The only way to fight her is through LBAS land strikes.
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Am I supposed to be getting final form on E5 2-3 kills in or is wiki wrong and the red DD comp is possible outside of final?
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>>16187308
I got the final comp from the start and it didn't change until after I cleared it.
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for debuffing e5 do I need to perfect the first air raid twice and the second air raid twice or can it be the first one 4 times?
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>>16187308
>is wiki wrong
yes
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>>16187314
>>16187344
Makes sense
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>>16187106
True.
>>16187110
>>16187111
Honorable gumo, do not bully.
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>>16187134
Why wouldn't it be?
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Flagship protection xD
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>>16187124
I don't get it.
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>>16187384
The picture of Tone is tilted. It's retarded but one guy seems to think it's the most hilarious XD thing ever.
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>>16187367
I really like the detail put in her eyes; the game CG i mean.
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>>16187379
>Two CV
>Parity
You're gonna have to do better than that.
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>>16187379
Did you run out of carriers or something?
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>>16186217
>>16186224
>>16187124
I hadn't started it yet. This can kick off the new collage if it's backed by popular demand, but did he sink anyone or have irreplaceable planes slide off her deck and break?
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>>16187399
>>16187403
Should I use 3 CV + 1 FBB instead of 2 CV + 2FBB?
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>>16186378
I'm disappointed only the nice fuel consumption and big breasts happened
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>>16187417
>Megane
WTF Sara doesn't wear any specs.
>Engrish
Sara's English is flawless.
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>>16187423
I think that's supposed to be his prediction from before.
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Why did she even look crazy before?
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>>16187431
That's determination and confidence, not crazy.
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>>16187417
I'm pretty sure some SEA monkeys were butthurt. They are always butthurt.
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You wouldn't dare break Shigure's heart by being unfaithful, would you?
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>>16187459
But I don't like Shiggy.
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>>16187459
I broke her whole being instead.
Every day I take her out for practice and deny her resupply. Letting her get to taiha over and over again. She says it hurts. I laugh at her and say this pain is nothing compared to what Yamashiro felt saving a piece of shit like her.
It's funny to see how wide her eyes get before she breaks down into tears.
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I'm going to marry Saratoga.
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>>16187492
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On one hand, Prinz refuses to aim for the boss and boss support keeps choking.

On the other hand, I got the one drop I actually wanted and my Kamikazes are complete for now.
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Quick /jp/, give me a name.
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>>16187515
NTR Queen.
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>>16187515
Ryuukaku
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>>16187515
NTRKaku
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>>16187519
>>16187521
Shoukaku is a good girl!
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Why haven't monthlies reset you? It's 7am December 1 in Japan, that's past 0500 JST.
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>>16187515
Hakukaku
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>>16187529
Did you reload the game?
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WHY WON'T YOU CUT IN MAYA?
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>>16187515
What is the ultimate way to win in that game? Do not join Allies, do not join Axis, make your own faction and wipe the floor with everything?
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>>16187548
You didn't love her enough.
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Onward to bomb Pearl Harbor.
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>>16187548
>600HP
You don't even need to debuff her.
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>>16187560
Just uninstall lad
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>>16187548
>kuso mode
>debuffing

Hahahaha
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>>16187560
Good job.
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>>16187570
Those must be some pretty powerful tears if they managed to reach her forehead.
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>>16187575
Yeah, they have the force of a thousand suns.
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>>16187560
I got turned off once I built some cute hotels and realized the model for them was just an enlarged Kongo.
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>>16187575
She spilled the cake mix she was preparing for the admiral.
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Would you prefer the current fun Pola or a sober Pola Kai 2 that can solo a whole fleet?
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>>16187582
I hope they will rework the naval warfare of the game.
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>>16187582
You'll have to buy the ship model DLC :^)
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>>16186156
I know this shit isn't new, but to one who had the brilliant idea of replacing the posting fleets on the wikia with an excel doc. FUCK YOU, I hope your anus get raped by a nigger.
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>>16187606
Didn't they start doing that this event? That seems new enough.
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>>16187598
Current Pola
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>>16187598
Get a Pola who can do both.
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>>16187614
But the smug.
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>>16187598
>What Pola dreams of doing.
I would rather have a cruiser that actually had a decent combat record.
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>>16187565
>>16187569
I'm going to clear on medium so I can at least get the f4f-3. I've gotten to P like 5 times now and maya refuses to cut in every time.
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>>16187625
It wasn't a dream, it's just after a week without any alcohol.
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>>16187625
>wanting to be a statsfag
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>>16187631
You don't need to debuff on medium either.
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>>16187609
I think it started with Warspite's event.
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>>16187639
Oh I never noticed it, guess I only looked at nip streamer fleets during the summer event.
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>>16187631
I did it on hard with no debuff and Prinz just one-shot the boss with 2x600 hits at night. Nagato was doing like 300x2 during the day when I was still using a slow fleet.

The only map this event that would've been worth debuffing was E4 and it didn't have one.
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Cute!
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Just out of curiousity how often did you all reach the E4 boss compared to your number of sorties? I feel like I don't see her in even 1 in 6 tries.
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>>16187625
What Pola dreams of doing is swimming in a pool filled with Wine.
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>>16187638
You don't need to debuff for anything.
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>>16187725
She would drown if she tried, the alcohol would knock her out within minutes of contact and she'd be literally dead in the water.
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>>16187712
27 total runs to clear on hard, 11 runs to reach last dance. 10 runs went to the boss. 5 of them were chipping and 5 of them were last dance. Light fleet with air parity, full sparkle with both supports.
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God damn why couldn't Asakaze have been a map reward. I just want a granny loli.
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>>16187740
A warrior's death
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>>16187754
You don't have Kamikaze?
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>>16187754
I got her without trying. But I need Harukaze. Hopefully the next one will be a reward.
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>>16187759
Kamikaze isn't smug enough.
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So how are we going to obtain this?
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>>16187784
Next ranking reward.
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>>16187784
I wouldn't be surprised if this is suppose to be a reward for Winter event, but it's probably through an unimplemented quest chain for after the event.
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>>16187638
I went ahead and did it anyway. did you use nagato? battleship in escort or not?
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>>16187800
Anytime Nagato aimed at BB Hime she almost killed her on her own so the final run was actually an unlucky one. No BB in escort, Bisko was too busy shooting from support.
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>>16187794
Pls no.
>>16187798
That would make more sense.
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How hard is E-4 med compared to hard?
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>>16187843
Joke tier.
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>>16187843
E4 medium is a walk in the park.
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>>16187862
>>16187864
So the only reward for hard is a catapult and an arguably worse bomber? Who designed this shit?
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>>16187872
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>>16187872
Catapult will probably be essential in the future for Kaga Kai 2 or jets.
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>>16187811
does that go KMNOPT? I always use maya and chokai on the last map but it looks like I might not need them this time.

>>16187864
only compared to hard. it still took me 27 sorties to finish the map, including 10 in a row where I didn't even get to the boss.
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>>16187872
Don't forget about satisfaction when you finally beat that bitch. It felt so good.
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>>16187882
>does that go KMNOPT?
Yes, really you shouldn't need to plan this out unless you're doing 甲.
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>>16187548
You go for attack formation (bottom right) and not diamond. I know it sounds counter-intuitive not to use the one that's supposed to help with air defense but as soon as I switched to attack I started getting S ranks in those nodes.
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>>16187880
>Kaga Kai 2.
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>>16187880
Good thing they'll give us a quest for another catapult when that happens.
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>>16187904
Catapult Kaga and Akagi would actually be within reason.
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>>16187912
And what if they don't, what are you going to do now?
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>>16187959
Use the other spare catapult.
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>>16187913
I don't remember any plans for catapults for Akagi. I think I remember hearing that she was supposed to get a larger island.
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What if they make the catapult for individual slots instead of the whole ship?
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Pls, navy experts, explain the pagoda mast. Why so many observation decks? Height level doesn't change that much. Can't you just have one for "ground", one for very top and one in the middle, for some reason? Why it has to be so many(I counted seven here)?
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>>16187968
You can always check the IJN records online, although they're in Japanese and have a lot of katakana. I found the record of the Kagerou-class changing name to Shiranui-class during the war there as well.
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>>16187976
Because whoever designed Fusous was a retard.
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>>16187976
It's called art.
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>>16187974
It would be a nice way to balance the jet instead of just putting it on the largest slot and laugh, but I still believe it is for Ibuki and Shinano.
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>>16187976
You can pack more searchlights etc on each level, and all in all it's more structurally sound to have a series of stacked levels than one tall tower.
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>>16187976
The tallest point is for the ship's main gun rangefinders and directors. All other decks are for anything else like packing AA mounts, searchlights, and later RADAR. No other ships in the world had such a layout because the IJN was so afraid of false readings on RADAR that they would much rather rely on optical info.
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>>16187880
>>16187904
>>16187913
Actually they're for upgrading Graf and Aquila's catapults.
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>>16188025
Oh god I hope not.
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>>16188025
They would too, fucking Tanaka
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>>16188025
I'm okay with Graf but fuck Aquila unless they give her more planes.
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>>16188025
>have neither of them. Even after this both are still Meh tier.
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>>16188025
I'd like that as long as Aquila's "what if" remodel is "what if she was a real fleet carrier".
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>>16187740
No amount of booze is too much for Pola.
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>>16188037
You mean more armor and HP.
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She is going to be the next Kai Ni, right?
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>>16187913
By the way what kind of Catapult is the one Shoukaku and Zuikaku use? Hydraulic, steam, air compressed?
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>>16188062
Magnetic
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Do oldfags even bother doing 4-5? Seems like a waste of effort if you have enough blueprints.
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>>16188064
Free screws, are you nuts? If you are, you can even farm more kai 4 radars.
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>>16188064
Are you retarded?
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>>16188025
I'm imagining a long, flowing cape and a duel disk.
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>>16188064
4 screws is worth it.
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>>16188063
That is a funny joke.
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>>16187408
No, it was just very entertaining for some reason. I was one of the many anons who got a hearty laugh from that.
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>>16188060
No.
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>Kitakami stole Pudding's last kill
Damn this sloth did over 300 damage and no debuff. I will never doubt you again super KTKM.

Glad I got Sara but god dammit Sakawa never showed up yet her missing sisters did.

Oh and thank you to those who posted their comps with Nagato, she did phenomenally from chipping to final kill removing the mooks and damaging the jellyfish at times making for easy yasen kills. Only got sent back once from the sub node so it was worth it imo.
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>sent back once
I wish I got that luck, got sent back 5 times throughout chipping, decided to use pre-emptive ASW girls to make it easier.
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>>16188090
Meant to reply
>>16188085
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>>16188090
He was doing medium.
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>>16188095
I did hard and had the same kind of luck for E-5.
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>>16188060
Yes.
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>>16188060
Maybe.
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I'm done with E5 and is going back to farm E2, what's a good LBAS setup for E2?

You need a range of 8 to reach the boss right?
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>>16188144
Are you going to use subs? If yes, then all bombers. If no, then whatever you used when you were doing the map.
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>>16188160
I'm asking because I don't remember what I was using for LBAS on E2.

I only wrote down my fleet comp.
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>>16188164
This is why you take screenshots as soon as you clear.
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>>16188164
Skilled 52/ 2 bomber/ 1 Taitei
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I've been stuck at E4 last dance for days, and now, when my fleet had taken literally zero damage, I suddenly get sent from Q to U. LoS check? Haha, nope. It was random all along, huh?
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>>16188176
Did you lose planes or did you not have enough LoS?
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>>16188196
Saiun doesn't get shot down, right? I get some LoS from my torpedo bombers, so I guess all of those were shot down. I should have checked instead of instantly resupplying.
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>>16188194
Sakawa is the ugliest siter.
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>>16188194
Agano is the fattest.
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>>16188194
Noshiro a cute.
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>>16188234
You mean the softest.
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>>16188194
Yahagi is the best sister.
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>>16188194
Great bangs, all four of them.

Especially all together.
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>>16188234
Which means she is the bestest.
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>>16188260
>use up all subs trying cheese the stupid E3/E2 debuff
>find out about the E4 1SS 2DD routing for transport phase
>only SS left is a lvl 20 Maruyu on standby for feeding

OH BOY HERE WE GO
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>>16188264
Maruyu makes an excellent meat shield since she doesn't go red til 1 hp.
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Do I need to run both supports to chip E5?
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>>16188288
Chipping only needs route support, but go all out on the final run. You do not want to fuck it up.
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1 dec, and this people already farmed 1k ++ senka how is this possible ?
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>>16188288
I found boss support utterly useless to be honest, and didn't find route support needed as the fighters did a good enough job with O node as that was the worst part.

But it depends on if you have all three nuclear girls and its only really necessary to go all out for final dance.
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>>16188298
EOs and the points that carry over from the previous month.
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>>16188288
Didn't use any support at all. Sending fighters to the aerial and Wo node was enough for me.
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We have incoming
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>>16188308
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>>16188311
>>
Is E-4-A or E-3-B supposed to be the powerlevelling node for new ships? I remember you guys were talking about something like that, please clarify.

Also last night I cleared E-3 by swapping Kiso for Choukai and putting in KTKM, but Beaver did in the boss, so KTKM didn't do anything, really. So yeah it was a real sniping roulette in the end anyway.
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>>16188311
Kiso is not cool
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>>16187553
Yes. Nations allied with you just steal your clay and fuck your borders up. There is no need to share the planet.
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>>16188288
I didn't use either support for chipping (fast fleet to avoid sub node, Sakawa and Prinz only). LBAS fighters to O was good enough for me. I used boss support on last dance just to make sure I went to night battle with the main fleet but I probably didn't need to.
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>>16188312
Her pose is pretty bad.
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>>16188338
E5M, after unlocking the second start point it's easy and combined fleet (!) powerlevelling on a submarine node. You can S rank the node even at full fatigue with a whole combined fleet's worth of ASW, especially OASW.
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>>16188308
>>16188311
>>16188312
Might buy Pola if the finished product is good enough.
Shigure should be on her way to me by now.
>>
How does the exp farming work again?
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Is there anything else I can do with this fleet? I could only get consistent AS on the boss node after swapping out the only bomber/fighter on Ryuujou for that 52C (601), but getting to the boss is nearly impossible let alone in a healthy enough state to kill it.
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>>16188367
>getting AS

heh
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>>16188367
Use heavy fleet.
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For chipping E-4H, start out with a lighter fleet (was thinking 2DD 2CVL 1FBB 1 CL) or should I go whole hog with 4BB2CV?
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Is 21 LOS enough to make the boss on E-4H?
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>>16188375
Chip with subs if you want maximum efficiency.
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>>16188366
>Transport combined fleet
>3-4 OASW ships
>can ignore morale and still hit more than half the time
>can yasen subs for free in case of red T
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This is fun.
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>>16188385
My subs were locked to E-2.
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>>16188389
What map is this?
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Isuzu or OhYodo/Melon?
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>>16188431
Kinu
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>>16188431
Isuzu with three drums.
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>>16188422
E5M
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>>16188431
Kinu or Abu with daihatsu.
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E-5 A node S-rank hard. I wasn't even trying to rescue her; I just wanted to unlock the shortcut. Welp welcome to the fleet I guess
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what the fuck I thought you just had to kill 4 ships.
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>>16188431
Natori
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>>16188431
Kinu with daihatsu, more TP than Isuzu with drums.
>>
Last 2 Fast CVLs. Use in E4 or save for E5?
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Akashi is the MVP for every event!
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>>16188308
Gonna get Hatsuzuki and Iowa for sure, maybe Pola.
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>>16188509
I'd love to see a boss with loads of hp but little to no armor so even Akashi can finish her off. Something like the Paper Oni from 5-2 but a lot more hp.
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>>16188483
It's probably based on a percentage of health too
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>>16187205
Dude it's been common knowledge since the month it came out. It's even on both wikis.
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What's a good farming E-5 O node comp?
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>>16188483
>>16188554
I think flag being undamaged is the problem.
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>>16187598
Whichever has better stats.
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So Iowa's fit are 35.6 protos?
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>>16187864
This. You can even subcheese last kill.
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Can you end the sortie at D after the perfect S rank for the node to count?

Reason why I ask is that I have done all the requirements to unlock the second starting section and it still doesn't appear.
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>>16188176
Maybe you gained HQ level?

>>16188196
Plane count doesn't affect eLoS, even if the count is 0.
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>>16188264
>he doesn't have dupe subs
Ahahahahahahaha
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>>16188308
Tbh I'd rather buy more rings and screws.
>>
I have a ton of 35.6cm stock, should I make 35.6 protos?
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The joy of every month
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Fuck this annoying DD.
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>>16188653
At least her opening torp misses all the time.
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Which are the best value Akashi upgrades?
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What is Saratoga good for?
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>>16188431
Ooyodo if she can OASW, otherwise Melon.
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>>16188577
Doubtful. I remember going into yasen with undamaged flag before.
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>>16188661
Stuff cheap to upgrade and that gives immediate benefits, so AP shells, main guns, Iwamoto.
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>>16188661
Seaplane fighters, then carrier-based fighters. After that is up to the individual.
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>>16188692
Upgrading Iwamoto gives more fighter power right?

How do you factor that into aircalc?
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>>16188692
>Iwamoto
>cheap to upgrade
lel no

Anything that needs more than 1 screw doesn't count. Only shit like AP shells do.
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>>16188683
Being as good as Kaga and Akagi. Plus being more attractive then either of them.
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>>16188640
No, the britbong gun is the best small BB gun right now.
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>>16188661
Ducky Guns, planes like the Skilled fighters, AP shells, maybe upgrade one or two 0 Observation planes to make dealing with LoS a non issue, seaplane fighters, some daihatsus/tanks, maybe one search light/super search light, and some main guns like the number 3s.
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So this is... the power of French engineering
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>>16188732
And wine for breakfast, lunch and dinner
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>>16188732
Yes the power to make 3-5 easier...yay
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waah my floor isn't loading~
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>>16188733
I thought that was the pastas.
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>>16188739
She's almost as bad as Pola
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>>16188683
My heart and soul.
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>>16188742
No she's not, Pola has wine 24/7 with the counter bar. Testes does not.
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http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1942880
ATAGO LIKES BIG BLACK COCKS.
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>>16188747
I think the author is implying she is Albino.
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We meet again, 6-5.
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If I follow this blindly will I be ok?
After E4, I don't want to plan anymore.
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>>16188782
what is there to plan for you can beat the map with mutsukis and nakas LUL
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>>16186612
Stalwart protectors of the fleet!
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>>16188806
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Where do faeries come from?
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I feel like my feet are always in six feet under every time I sortie to 6-5. The fucking air node is cancer.
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Favorite new fairy?
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>>16188794
This
E5 is so easy compared to E3 & E4
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>>16188833
Blonde Hiei is shit.
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>>16188833
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>>16188833
F4F-4 > Late > F4F-3 > the Mizuho one on the event banner > the rest
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Today's her birthday: say something nice about her.
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>>16188853
Speaking of banners, where's my apology banner?
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>>16188833
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>>16188782
Why do I need to go back do A after unlocking the shortcut? I thought the nodes to beat for the boss debuff were F and P?
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>>16188863
I'm still sad Fujikawa didn't draw a Prinz Eugen fairy for it.
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>>16188846
Both the SB2U and TBD fairies sort of resemble Saratoga.
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>>16188864
If you need Asakaze or Sakawa.
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>>16188857
Third sister I'd fuck.
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>>16188857
Whenever she says mic check, I pretend she's saying it to my dick and get hard.
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>>16188782
>suijou for unlocking 2nd starting point
Dropped hard.
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>>16188866
Both F4F fairies are tomboys. If we do end up getting another american carrier, I wonder if she will be a tomboy.
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How do you get a Zero 32 (Skilled)? A quest?
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>>16188864
It's for sinking transports as part of the debuff.
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>>16188883
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>>16188887
Upgrade skilled 21 at Akashi's.

I intend to give skilled 32 to my CVLs for 4-3 grinding, but for now they take a backseat to skilled 52 and skilled 21.
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>>16188887
Akashi
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>>16188890
Almost forgot about SBD.
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>>16188894
Wait a minute, you lose accuracy and don't even get extra AA? What? God damn it, I don't want to anymore if all I'm getting is the library entry.
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>>16188900
It also loses the 7 range, It's absolute shit but it looks cool.
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>>16188903
Its cool looks is originally why I wanted it but if I'm losing a better plane. I guess I'll get a Houshou and get an extra Skilled plane and convert that one.
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>>16188900
Same range for LBAS as Reppuu as well, it's useless unless you believe the +4 evasion does anything.
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>>16188906
I guess if you really want Shouhou and Zuihou to have a little bit more evasion, it could be alright. Speaking of them Zuihou Kai Ni when? Final Bob Kai Ni when?
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>>16188910
Before that, Hiyou Kai Ni when?
>>
I'm still farming E1 for my first akizuki, should I just clear or do I still have a couple days?
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>>16188913
You have 6 days.
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>>16188914
oh plenty of time then
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>>16188913
The event is piss easy, you don't need more than 2 days to clear the whole thing
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>>16188913
Just keep at it, Akizuki and her guns is probably better than any of the event rewards this time anyway.
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I JUST GOT PRINZ, GOOD BYE EVERYONE. I BEAT KANCOLLE ALREADY, I DONT NEED TO PLAY ANYMORE. IM FUCKING FREE, BYE FOREVER.
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>>16188863
What is she even doing?
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>>16188925
>not marrying her and getting her to 155
Fucking scum.
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>>16188926
Being cute.
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>>16188925
You need to marry your waifu dipshit Kraut Cruiser lover.
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>>16188925
I hope you mistakenly get her sunk.
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>>16188857
Her kai 2 gave me a megane fetish, also a long legs fetish.
>>
I got sakawa from a failure to kill the boss. will she do more damage at level 1 than level 99 abukuma? I don't have enough time to level her right now or even enough stuff to fully modernize her.
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>14 boats to sparkle before the next sortie
E-4 is SHIT
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>>16188946
Yes, but modernize her first or else it's going to end terribly.
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>>16188935
Fucking never. I'll be carefull.
>>16188925
SAME FAG FROM BEFORE I JUST GOT POLA HOLY SHIT AFTER PRINZ, AND I THOUGHT I HAD BAD LUCK.
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>>16188925
>>16188974
糞提督
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>>16188925
Where does she drop?
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>>16188925
>>16188974
A rank or S rank?
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>>16189003
They both drop at E5 boss.
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>>16188974
That's nice and all but I got three Hatsuzukis, two Akashis, and now my first Kashima this event.
I already had Pola.
I also got a bunch of Hiryuus for modernization.
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>>16189006
Prinz has been reported to drop at A rank. Low drop rate either way.
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for e5 is it better to send bombers to the boss or to O? I'm already sending one base of fighters to N and O.
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>>16189025
I need to know if Pola drops from S rank.
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>>16189011
>kashima
Is she only available in E1?
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>>16189003
T node of course.
>>16189006
A rank.
And 5 of my ships out of battle. You can see 3 of my CVs in moderate damage. The other 2 are from the escort fleet (heavy damage)
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>>16189011
Outside of the sonar is she even worth leveling?
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>>16189011
Thats cool anon. And congrats to you too.
Fun fact: I don't have Hiryuu and this is my second event.
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>>16189034
6-5 as well.
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How do I get more 12.7mm?
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>>16189034
Yeah. I was farming E1 for her since I didn't have her or Hatsuzuki. I was lucky to get two Akashis and three Hatsuzukis along the way. Funnily enough I never got Akizuki but that doesn't bother me since I already have her. Now I just need Teruzuki.
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>>16189038
If you want a quick searchlight, yes.
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>>16189038
Cheapest searchlight fodder.
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>>16189038
Searchlight and if you're one of those paranoid fucks that think that 14cm is gonna be used for something someday.
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>>16188857
Her fanart is better than her ingame art
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>>16189062
You can say that about pretty much all ships.
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>>16189033
I bet she does.
>>16189010
Also you need to read this:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2016_Event#E-5_P_Easy
Check the drop list.
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https://twitter.com/49tyo/status/804203226564153344
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>>16189074
Fucking hot.
>>
E5 A route is kicking my ass at nearly every node. I've dedicated two destroyers in the escort fleet to ASW duty for the first node but the air nodes are still a coin flip, should I send fighters from the air bases to soften them before they can bully the fleet?
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>>16189085

If you've already got your perfect defenses, yes.
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>>16188981
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>>16189092
I'm not there quite yet, I figured I'd save the perfect defenses until after I've S ranked A three times.
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>>16189070
I don't know, at last check every single report of her is at A rank.

Also I know the fucking list.
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>>16189097
Don't, it seems like everything gets harder as you S-rank A.
That includes air raids.
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>>16189040
Third event for me. I still need to get better at managing my time to have stronger ships.
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>>16189103
On that note, for an air base with only carrier fighters equipped, is it better to fill the 4th slot with a 4th fighter or do scout planes modify bombers shot down by carrier fighters as well?
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>>16189104
I say, what you need more than stronger ships is resources, a lot. If you have 100k you are good enough even with only kai ships.
You know because RNG.
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>>16188930
Does anyone even have Prinz at 155?
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>>16189112
I think it's Saiun for 1.3X and Type 2 Recon for 1.2X

Just follow this chart. Defence is pretty easy with 2 Wo comp
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>>16189118
Obviously. In /jp/? Probably too.
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>>16189126
Defense with three can happen too, because RNG.
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>>16189126
translate this weebs
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>>16189097

Haven't experienced this >>16189103 myself but I winged it on my very first run and set all 3 LBAS to defense. Got lucky with air raid spawns (2 Wo-Kais both times), still made it to A, still got my S-Rank. Probably best to get it out of the way ASAP so that you can reallocate your planes to air battle nodes or node A or wherever you want.
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>>16189126
>22+√10
>not 22+√12
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>>16189131
Yeah, I meant in /jp/.

I really want to know who's the most common 155 shipgirl in /jp/.
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>>16189159
I feel that the 2 perfect defenses are going to be RNG as fuck with the tripple wo.
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>>16189194
I feel like air nodes are even worse, at least when you use LBAS for defense.
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>>16188883

>Both F4F fairies are tomboys. If we do end up getting another american carrier, I wonder if she will be a tomboy.

Well, two of the Essex carriers were named Franklin and Randolph, so it's always a possibility.
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>>16189184
Haruna
Biscuit
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>>16189184
Subs.
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>>16189184
Subs and KTKM I guess.
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The catapult will be for Aoba!
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>>16189184
Bisko was the most married last time we had a poll I think. But I doubt more than two or three people happen to have the same ship at max level.
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Leave me alone Wo. I need to get the fuck out of E4.
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>>16189114
Yeah I need to work on collecting more Bauxite and Steel next time.
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>>16189262
She only wants a hug.
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I'll get the medal next time
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>>16189355
This medal is lost forever anon.
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>>16189359
They should really make each medal unique so people are forever branded with failure.
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>>16189355
>sakawa
>pudding
>kuso mode
Fucking embarrassing.
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>>16189366
You're already forever branded with failure if you don't have all the medals.
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I can't fight this girl.
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>>16189241
so CAV Aoba?
>ufw u need catapult and paper for kai ni
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>>16189380
Nope. That could mean you didn't play before.
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>first E5 boss run, A rank
>Pudding

Well, shit.
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>>16189397
Dupe?
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>>16189355
Kuso
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>>16189405
No.
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>>16189388
>>16189241
I'm pretty sure it's not that kind of catapult.
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>>16189397
My Sakawa asexually reproduced on my 3rd kill.
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>E-5 boss
It wasn't that bad until the escort fleet had more trash leftover than the main fleet.
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>>16189420
Lewd
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>>16187872
Does it even matter? I'll complete it on hard even if it gave nothing.
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When fighting E4 and I don't finish off the escort fleet how do I know I'm going to fight the boss for night battle?
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>>16189433
I think you need to A rank the combined fleet so sink 8 enemies total.
>>
how do I gear up my land bases for boss kill? I don't have any fighter that can reach it even with taitei. Do I just accept the fact that I'll essentially send those bombers on a suicide run?
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>>16189355
>nopotatofag STILL can't clear events on hard

laughing dragons
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>>16189460
>Do I just accept the fact that I'll essentially send those bombers on a suicide run
None of them would be losing any rank and they would rape the abyss hard. If you are having problem S ranking the boss, just send 2squadron of bombers there.
>>
How much does Taitei increase for LBAS again?
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>>16189473
+3
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>>16189473
+3
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>>16189473
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>>16189184
I got these.
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>>16189473
Taitei is +3, Catalina is +2.
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>>16189474
>>16189475
>>16189477
>>16189480
Thanks, and LBAS is an average of all planes, right? 8 + 8 + 9 would give you an average of 8, and with taitei it would be 11?
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>>16189477
>Catalina suddenly gives less range to 8+ range planes

How is this okay?
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>>16189484
Range is determined by the plane with the lowest range.
A base with a fat bomber with 10 range and a fighter with 4 range will only reach nodes set to range 4.
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>>16189470
I don't know, my planes got raped hard on the midboss node, and boss has like 200 more air power.
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I wish we could use LBAS in E-4.
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>>16189486
It probably has to do with Catalina's 10 base range.
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>>16189488
That kind of funny since my lowest is 8 and I with a Taitei, I can't reach the boss node on E-5 even though you need 11.
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>>16189492
>96 HP
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>>16189496
That's 6-5 you tard.
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>>16189495
It is 2 for this event, I don't know why the replies were +3.
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>>16189499
does that mean if I can beat e-4 on ``Z" I can beat 6-5?
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>>16189495
>>16189504
I can reach T just fine with range 8 planes in my land base. Wikiwiki even says as much.

Post landbases?
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>>16189505
You get LBAS, but no supports.
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>>16189477
Taitei-chan is amazing.
>>
Is it worth it at all to avoid either N or M on E5, or is it better to just go balls with 4 carriers, Nagato and Kitakami for the boss node?
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>>16189477
Do planes with 10 ranges not get bonuses from anything?
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>>16189510
Go balls. Load up your DDs with OASW and you should be good.
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>>16189507
2 x 一式陸攻 三四型 (8 range)
1 x 銀河 (9 range)
1 x 二式大艇

This setup would make it alright to reach the boss, but the option doesn't come up. I went and switch it up with 9 range planes and see if the option appears.
I still kill the boss without them, but everything helps.
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>>16189410
What if Tanaka wants Aoba to launch carrier-based planes and gives her a flight deck because sekrit dokuments))) if remodel?
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>>16189521
My third base has the same setup except with a Nonaka instead of a Ginga and it reaches the boss just fine.
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>>16189527
So the problem stems from the Ginga? What range does it have, and I don't want to remove it from the base just to check.
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>>16189355
>yuudashit
>shitgure
>this difficulty
>can't even complete extremely easy map with nuclear gimmick ships
>not even fucking S-rank
No, you'll never get an e-peen medal.
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>>16189519
Domo, senpai.

Also, LBAS support.
T22 Zeroes to preboss node and bombers to boss
OR
T22 Zeroes to preboss and T52 Zeroes to N and O
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>>16189531
Same range (9), don't bother.
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>>16189510
I went with Nagato and KitaOoi. Just send some fighters and landbase to O and you should be fine. Also >>16189519.
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>>16189527
Taitei
Ginga
Nonoka
34

Can bomb T just fine.
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>>16189532
I ran out of ships for the last hard lock and didn't want to bother trying to clear with level 1 aquila and level 50 raiden. I still got a f4f and the 3rd late so I don't even care.
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>>16189535
Personally, I sent my LBAS to just O and the boss. N isn't too bad, and O was the only pre-boss node I had problems with. 1 strike to O, the other 3 to the boss to make sure the escort fleet was dead by yasen time.

That's assuming you have a decent AACI ship (I used Maya) and enough CVs and fighters for solid AS.
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>>16189544
Inb4 it's the order of his planes and his taitei isn't in the top slot.
>>
This event has shown that even if you're a 100 slot poorfag, you need 4 CLs.

Which 4 do you keep?
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>>16189547
I'm bringing armored cranes, taihou and akagi, so 600+ air power will be no problem at all.
I'm split on Maya or Akizuki for AACI. Maya needs a stretch, but I'd rather bring Musashi in the main fleet and take Akizuki in escort for AACI.
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>>16189555
Abukuma
Jintsuu
Yuubari
Sendai
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>>16189561
Bring both Maya and ducky.
Skip on the BB.
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>>16189561
Akizuki will probably work just fine. Maya as flagship was super reliable as my AACI, but I've seen others do E-5 with a duck just as easily.
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>>16189555
Abukuma, Ooyodo, Abukuma, Isuzu.
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>>16189555
Buy more slots.
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>>16189525
There was no such thing.
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That node is brutal.

I assume there's no way to debuff it like the boss, is there?
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>>16189591
Did you send some land base there? It helps immensely.
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>>16189596
I did, but they didn't sink anyone. Guess I was just unlucky.
>>
>>16189591
Does this skip the aerial node?
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>>16189591
Where's your AACI ship, you fucking retard.
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>>16189605
What is Teruzuki?
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>>16189605
Hello?
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>>16189605
There's a very fat duck in there. You're just blind.
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>>16189602
It does; You need less than 6 BB+CV to skip it

>>16189605
Pot, kettle etc.
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>>16189608
>>16189609
>>16189610
>>16189614

I double checked just to make sure,. and I didn't even notice her. Guess she's the least duck who doesn't stand out for me.
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>>16189614
Just wondering how dangerous the sub node is compared to aerial and whether it is worth dropping a CLT for it. Also the minor fuel hit.
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>>16189625
>Guess she's the least duck who doesn't stand out for me.
Or you're just a fucking retard.
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>>16189625
>Blame the ship
Every time
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>>16189635
Nah, I'm good. Teruzuki is shit.
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>>16189479
Amazing, looks like I have found a true authentic lover of glasses. My lone 155 pudding pales to that amount of dedication.

Now get going and bring Hachi, Katori and Okinami to 155.
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>>16189649
>no Mochizuki
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>>16189660
Everyone forgets her
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>>16189649
>a true authentic lover of glasses
More like an authentic statwhore meganepleb.
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It's really satisfying seeing Nagato gutpunch CV Hime for 600+ when I had so much trouble with her in E4.
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>>16189479
>>16189649
Missed out quite a few.

Mochizuki
Makigumo
Okinami
Ooyodo
Choukai
Kirishima
Musashi
Roma
I-8
Katori

>>16189703
>meganepleb
>statwhore
Nah.
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Ya gotta love a classic choke. Free win delivered on a silver platter.
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>>16189732
THIS DOES NOT FUCKING SLIP NOW
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Is it normal to get final formation for E-5 during chipping on hard?
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>>16189749
I never did, but I saw others post that they did.
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What should be priority for medals/blueprints after I have the cranes, Abukuma, Unryuu and Fusou at full power?
Should I power up Amagi next, or Yamashiro, or Choukai and Tone/Chikuma?

Also, I apparently missed out on upgrading Iwamoto Flight to max star rank. I suppose there's no way to upgrade it right now?
Can still do that with 601 Group at least.
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>>16189732
>slot #5
Serves you right.
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>>16187006
Is it university exams? If so ganbare, USA-kun.
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>>16189760
I got it 3/3 times I reach the boss, which is really weird since both wikis state that it's the final formation.
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>>16189761
yamashiro or bismarck
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>>16189749
What does final form even look like?
I've only been seeing red.
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>>16189780
That's the final form. The normal form seem to have gray DDs.
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Is E-3 debuff necessary? I just can't get perfect air defence on E-2, those fuckers always do like ~5 damage.
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>>16189793
As long as you have the cut-in ships to kill the boss then you're good.
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>>16189793

Completely unneccesary as log as you've got good torp cut-in ships.
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>>16189761
Events always demand a shitton of carriers, can't go wrong with Amagi.

And of course you can still upgrade Iwamoto, it's just gonna cost you more.
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>>16189793
Waste of time and resources.
Just fuck up the boss as usual.
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>>16189799
>>16189801
I already locked shiggy and poi on E-2, I'm saving the other cut-ins for 4 and 5.
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>>16189808
Same lock
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>>16189813
Yeah I mean I already planned to bring them for E-3 so my choices are kinda set by this point.
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>>16189808

>shiggy and poi on E-2
>When E-3 has the same lock as E-2
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>Maya not cutting in
She was cutting in fine a few hours ago, what happened?
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>>16189815

You don't need cut-in ships for E-5 as lonng as you have Prinz or Sakawa.
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>>16189825
I have both, although Sakawa is underleveled as fuck. I was planning on saving Ayanami for last.

Oh well I guess I'll just give it a try with shiggy ans see how it goes.
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How many events have you participated now? 12 events and counting here.
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>>16189859
one
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>>16189859
Only 11 myself. I wasn't around for the Arpeggio collab.

I've managed to clear every event though, the ones with difficulty all on hard. AL/MI was still the worst for me as I was still relatively new back then.
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>>16189844
My Sakawa gained 18 levels on E-5 alone and I started with her being level 35. Levels don't matter, Wo is right again.
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>>16189859
5
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>>16189870
AL/Mi was a joke.
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>>16189761
Tone/Chikuma if you don't have all the other CAVs leveled. 4 CAVs are the bare minimum in this "historical" game.
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>maya goes taiha on the first air defense node
Maya.
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>>16189881
Fuck you. I was over HQ 100 by then and it took me over 100 sorties to get the final kill finished.

If you have a worse experience, let me know. Otherwise, you can fuck off.
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>>16189859
Same here anon. Hitokappu babby too?
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This has happened twice in a row now. It's like passing through the Wo node means a no.
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>>16189889
HQ didn't matter. It's all about the prep mentally and ship/item inventory-wise, admit it you just suck.
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>>16189859
8. Started because of the anime here.
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>>16189892
Yes. Don't forget we're here forever.
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>>16189900
HQ mattered. That double BB hime shit was awful. But with your vague response, I'm guessing you weren't even around for it.
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>>16189859
14. Though I'd barely call what I did in summer 2013 participating. I didn't even clear the first map because I had no way of dealing with subs.

>>16189881
The words of someone who wasn't there.
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>>16189881
>and then this same faggot whining about this E-4 is too hard for him
Newfag fuck off
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>>16189910
I was just saying that your HQ level shouldn't matter as long as you had the ships to avoid shiplocking and equipment, dimwit. 2 BB Hime LD weren't even the threat, CV Hime in pre-boss was, and if you went for the north route, your fleet was gimped hard because of that retarded LoS requirement.
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>>16189915
>>16189929
Oh great more scrubs who couldn't clear AL/MI or probably wasn't even here while I cleared it on my first try.
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>>16189940
I don't think you actually cleared it, if you think the double BB hime formation wasn't the problem. Pre-boss sucked, but the real problem was getting a lucky CI on the boss to sink her.

The point about HQ, dimwit, is that if you were above HQ 100, you faced that 2 BB hime bullshit formation. The real problem wasn't ship locking, equipment, or even getting to the boss (all rough stuff, but also stuff you could prep for), it was just getting that lucky roll where your CI ships aimed at the boss instead of the BB hime sponges.
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Let's be honest guys, nobody was there during AL/MI.
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>>16189966
>I'm new as shit so everyone else here must be new as shit
There's some actual veterans here too, son.
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>>16189940
>>16189949
>>16189966
Here is (you) you're baiting for
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>>16189971
I was there, but I've realized I wasn't there after someone told me I probably wasn't there on /jp/. I'm now pretty sure nobody was there to begin with and everyone is just being deceived into thinking they were there instead.
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>>16189966
Anyone with 2 SCAMPs was there during AL/MI.
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>>16189859
>>16189966
Saved Musashi
Saved Shitkawa
Saved Isokaze
8memedals
What is your excuse?
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>>16189991
Anyone with 2 SCAMPs was at least at AL.

4 Proto 41s is the mark of someone that completed MI, unless they've got duplicate Fusou class k2s.
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>All this e-peen
>In an anonimous imageboard

There is only one thing certain. You are truly stupid without remedy.
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>>16190003
MI is E3 to E5. SCAMP was an E3 reward.
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>>16190003
>unless they've got duplicate Fusou class k2s
I was farming them for zuiun 12s but still.
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>>16189964
I though admit I needed KTKM for cut-in set-up, not all people have cleared with CI ships, I saw some clears in nico and youtube that they were using CA/CAVs because they didn't want the idea of two shelling phases against CV Hime. Also with 3 BB set-up, your chances of dealing more damage to the boss should likely high enough to sink two of them.

Also, there were three ship locks so you had to save your best BBs at the end, and equipment because you required to have more radars, yamato planes, and Saiun.

>>16189981
Your reaction image spam is fucking cancer. Get the fuck out.
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>>16190016
That's my point. SCAMP just means you made it past AL and into MI, not that you cleared MI.
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>>16190028
By "was there" I meant "was present during AL/MI even if they didn't necessarily clear it". At least I figure that's what >>16189966 was referring to.

E3 to E5 were easy enough that most people who cleared E3 also cleared E5, anyway.
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>>16190003
>>16189991
>>16190024
>>16190028
>not save your happy moment with your girls
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>>16190034
>tfw failed E6
That was when I realised playing for love was a lie.
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>>16190034
I saved a screenshot, but my HD failed after a year. FML.
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Event specific medals when?

Since memedals seem to not be e-peeny enough for some people, I think event specific medals with difficulty indicators would assuage everyone's need to one-up each other.

I imagine it wouldn't be that hard to hand out retroactive medals as well assuming the devs keep at least some archive of event data for players.
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>>16190046
>27941
You are not fooling anyone. #27941 with 1year of play time at most? Really? Hardcore ranker or fake.
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>>16190033
I get your point now. 2 SCAMPs is at least a pretty clear indicator that you were there at all. Shame they don't hand out event medals or something.
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>Ducky at 100 morale from PvP
>crit to taiha on sub node
What a way to start the E-4 boss runs. This is going to be good.
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>>16190059
Yeah because nobody is dedicated to spam 1-1 and 2-3, retard. Here have some good evidence that I cleared AL/MI while getting Kiyoshimo and Hayashimo.
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>>16190061
53cm hull torp
Reppuu Kai
2 scamp
Double fumo
Double 51cm
Double Murata

Having Isokaze before pudding/akiduki
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>reach E-3 boss
>everyone shoots at the main fleet
>kill 4 ships, wo and boss remaining in yellow
>nobody bothered to shoot at escorts
>night battle vs escorts
>mfw I have no face
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>>16190079
I'd only been playing for a few months by then.
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>Wikia says Nowaki drops on J node E-1.
Am I being rused? I'd check Poi statistics but it's down right now.
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>>16190079
>>16190080
Every newfags can get that. You can't fool anyone.
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>>16190111
Wikiwiki does too so it's probably just you.
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Who thought triple Wo is fine?
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What's the conservative estimate of how much fighter power is needed for E-5 KNOPT route?
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>>16190147
It's a free pass unlike 2 CV Hime.
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>>16190148
700~ should give you a nice buffer to get AS on every node.
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>>16190147
It's fine, the firing order with kidou butai makes it bearable.
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>>16190061
>Shame they don't hand out event medals or something.
Something like a little badge case filling out what maps were cleared in what events would be neat as HECK.
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I caught this dork in E5 O.
Can I keep her?
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>>16189966
My 53cm Bow (Oxygen) torps and rescued Musashi say otherways.
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>H should be the walkthrough of E-5
>LBAS misses
>aerial phase does hardly anything
>support fleet misses everything
>torpedo from one of the DDs insta taihas one of my ships
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>>16190185
Do you know what this game really needs?
H-scenes and NTR.
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>>16190220
I like your style, kid, you've got that shine.
End your life very soon.
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>>16190221
What about H-scenes without NTR
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>>16190224
DELETE!
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>>16190053
Can we have medals for not complaining on /jp/ about maps/rng/other stuff too?
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>>16190053
>assuming the devs keep at least some archive of event data for players
It's a very optimistic assumption. I bet they only keep a single file with completion rates and difficulty breakdown.
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Screw it, I'll just do easy for E-5.
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>>16190308
Don't feel bad, kuso TTK. It's not like anyone here will know. But you'll always know
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>>16190308
That 7 memedal will follow you forever.
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>>16190308
Don't anon at least do it in medium.
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>>16190320
I only have three medals though.
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Airstrike kills a destroyer and cruiser.
Support shelling kills two cruisers.
Kitaooi dunk the last destroyer.
Tsu refuse to take damage, taihas Sakawa in shelling and chokes Ayanami with closing torp.


FUCK
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please don't laugh at me.

is there anything I should change for last dance against hard E4 boss?
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>KTKM chokes cutting in on the boss costing me the S rank victory
Thanks hyper Kitakami-sama.
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Did anyone found any good arts of the shipgirls doing this new pose of covering their boobs and crotch with a finger in front of a mirror?
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>>16190363
Drop one of the CVL and put a KTKM or Ooi. You're not going to get AS anyway, so just pray for KTKM to secure the yasen.
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>>16190385
Alright. Do I do 3Fighters+1Bomber or can I do two of each?
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>>16190363

>Unironically marrying bongo
>Putting attack planes on 11/8 planes slots against Tsu
>Abukuma actually killing anything during nightime


I bet you don't reach the LoS requirement too.
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>>16190390
I did 1 torp bomber 3 fighter but that's because I use Akagi instead of Chito/Chiyo. Bomber on the biggest slot, obviously.
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>>16190321
Wikia states that none of the mechanics reset if you change from Easy to Medium. Does that mean if you unlock the second start point and then change to Medium it stays unlocked?
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>>16190404
Yes it's what i did.
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>>16190363
You haven't played since before the chevron updates, have you?
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>>16190363
Yes.
Difficulty.
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>>16190220
This game really needs live2D and resurrection of some dead artists.
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>>16190422
Live2d won't happen until at least another year or two, otherwise people would have one less reason to play the arcade.
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>>16190396
>Unironically marrying bongo
I like Kongou a lot, and there was a time where all I had was the sisters and Nagato and Mutsu.

>Putting attack planes on 11/8 planes slots against Tsu
I am really bad at determining where to put planes, but this worked so whatever.

>Abukuma actually killing anything during nightime
But she did.

>I bet you don't reach the LoS requirement too.
22.40 LoS

>>16190403
Thank you.

>>16190411
I have, but I mostly just do expeditions and daily PvPs in-between events. I have crap equipment because of that.
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>>16190427
>thinking people would choose the Vita game over the arcade
You serious?
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I have no mememedals and I started playing in 2014. This isn't a big deal right?
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>>16190363
First, order your ships for yasen combat. Teru, ABKM, Bongo, Beaver and CVLs.

Then check one of the air superiority calculators. Since you'll only get parity I think you can achieve it with just 4 fighters in the smaller slots, leaving 4 "big" slots for TBs.

Other than that, run both support expeditions and hope for a good run.
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>>16190436
> playing the vita version

I meant for browser and possibly mobile.
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>>16190363
Always arrange fighters from smallest slot first.

As long as you hit air superiority, there's no risk to fighters. Bombers in small slots have a high chance of getting emptied by Tsu, resulting in lost chevrons.
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>>16190474
I mean, why would people abandon KanColle that has at least some form of gameplay (arcade) for the same game they have already been playing for 2+ years with slightly movable/responsive CGs?
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>>16190491
Because you don't have to keep paying to play the browser version.
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>>16190509
By that logic, no one would play the arcade.
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>>16190509
Or queueing up and playing for a limited time.
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>>16190526
There will always be people retarded enough to do anything because of muh shipwaifus.
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>>16190509
Arcade is actually fun though.
Browser is not.
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>>16190526
>>16190575
Not everyone lives in Japan either.
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>>16190598
How does that reflect on the people who can play as they already are?
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>>16189881
>Only 15% of players who participated cleared the final map
>joke

Did you have RNG held hostage or something?
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>>16189859
This is ninth one. I'll be getting my seventh full-hard-clear.
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>>16190640
Numbers would be similar now if people at HQ107 weren't doing easy.
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What will be the hardest event? Leyte Gulf?
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The only limiting factor to subcheesing and chipping E-4 and E-5 is LoS, right?

Or is it only E-5 that's suitable for chipping with subs?
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>>16190662
It's combined fleet, retard.
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RJ's mortal enemy.
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>>16189859
>tfw only event i can't clear was Arpeggio
>ffw every event after that i cleared it on hard
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What's the cut-in setup for Bismarck? I'm getting desperate with E4.
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>>16190682
gun, gun, ap shell, seaplane
Using anything else is retarded.
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>>16190685
Sometimes it's better to give her gun, gun, night scout, big searchlight.
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>>16190211
No, put it back where you found it. Why do you even phrase it like that?
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>>16189859

6 because I was a retard who couldn't figure out why I kept getting catbombed, gave up for about a year, then realised that hey, changing your local timezone to JST is actually a thing. Otherwise I would probably have started just in time for Summer '14.

Summer '15 was pretty tough as a new player though.
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>>16190640
Being able to choose difficulty was the real clincher
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>>16190682
You luck boosted her without knowing this?
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>>16190698
I haven't, but I also haven't had her for very long nor been in a situation like this where I'm seriously considering a cut-in setup.
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>>16190719
Don't buther with a cut-in setup then
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>>16186872
Thanks but Ru won't let me and keeps acting like a dyson in spe.
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Please. I almost lost my sanity. Light fleet is not doable, heavy fleet is not doable, always the 4 Ru nodes taiha occurs. Please, just let me pass. I almost start to recount the sin of my life until I find that all that is wrong is the world and the society itself.

Please let me pass E4 please I beg you.
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Please. This is the most ridiculous map that I have faced, because not only the pre-boss node will make you taiha, but you can't guarantee a good run when you reach the boss node. Usually it is either of those, but not the combination.
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Poor Mutsuki.
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>>16189859
Including this, 13. I Failed LBS 2013 though, burned out after E4. It was after that event that I promised myself never to fail another event.
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>>16190789
God, she's so cute.
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tanaka pls can we keep nuclear ships for every event
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>>16190812
Looks like a cut-in. If that's the case, switch to double attack, it's much more efficient and still guarantees 1HKO.
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>>16189859
9, wish I had started playing earlier instead of being a filthy secondary for about a year.
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This is the only run that reached the boss today. I only reached the boss yesterday for final dance.

Kill me. I don't want to live anymore.
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I haven't gotten past the sub or quad Ru node in E-4 in the 10 or so sorties I've done. Is this how it's supposed to be?
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>>16190818
Those are some quite manly ships.
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>>16190837
>10 or so sorties

Well, for me it is 10 to 20 times more than that, so yeah.
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>>16190812
I like this gimmick, but is a bit unfair for players who didn't bought slots.

It fucks all over statfags tho, so I'll welcome it again in more events.
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>>16190828
Why are you using that mute megane? Where is your Abukuma?
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>>16189859
3
None of them finished on hard.
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>>16189859
10, though for Summer 14 I only got as far as rescuing Yodo because I was still pretty new.
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>>16190672
RJ should just deal with it.
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The route is easy they said. Double support, AS and double Reppuu LBAS sure as hell isn't helping on the air nuke nodes.
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>>16190824
Same I wish o started in 2015.
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>>16190661
>Leyte Gulf
Pretty much. Considering how the difficulties are creeping up, I suspect last map of Leyte Gulf would be:
- Nishimura fleet
- yasen nodes
- 5x LBAS, (of which only 2 can be sortied)
- combined abyssal fleet everywhere with insane AS
- Almost mandatory debuff like Summer 2015
- Debuff nodes require LBAS strike to win like Spring 2016
- 18 nodes map. Second starting point will only reduce it to 10 which means you will be requiring Hayasui
- random compass
- Boss will have a Sub hime waiting for you.
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>>16189859
This one is 7th.
Spring 15 was my first and after that all in +10 screws mode except summer 15.
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Alright. I seriously need help. Here are my setup:


Hatsuzuki: 2 ducky guns (max) 13 Kai (+6) and damecon

Kawakaze: 2 ducky guns (+6) balloon

Ooyodo: 2 20.3(3) gun (+6) and (+0), yasen plane (+1) and searchlight (+5)

Tone: 20.3(3) gun (+6) and (+4) Zuiun type12 , type 2 fighter

KTKM: Sex (+6) Quint Minisub

Akagi: (in order) Reppuu601, Re2005Kai, 53(Iwamoto), Reppuu601

Air power 331-351, if I swap one green plane for blue plane in Akagi, it will drop around 230 and I don't think it is worth the risk.

Anyway to improve the setup?

>>16190850

For E5. Plus I don't have other good torps at my disposal other than the ones I've got for KTKM
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>>16190891
>- Boss will have a Sub hime waiting for you.

NO PLEASE, ANYTHING BUT THIS CRAP.
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I don't know what else I can do. I sparkled everything but it is useless anyway.
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> actually combat viable
> fluent english
> nice personality
> great body

I need more Sara in my life, literally perfection.
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>>16190900
E5 is way more easy than E4, dude. And you should use Sakawa as CL anyways. She's good enough with 2 guns.
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>>16190900

Needs more torp cut in ships. Ooyodo does nothing really impressive in Yasen, Kawakaze can do shit but she won't snipe the boss.
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>>16190910

Who will carry the searchlight and yasen planes then?
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>>16190923
Well, I cleared it with a light fleet, so a DD had the searchlight and nobody carried the yasen plane due to just parity. I used a 56 lick ABKM with TI as "anchor" tho.
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Why? I sparkled all of them and this is the nth time this happens.

I got punished for using heavy fleet, I got punished for using light fleet, I got punished for sparkling, I got punished for going for AP in boss node, I got punished for literally everything in this map.

I just don't know anymore.
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>>16190902
Res then
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>>16190943
Change positioning then
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>>16190935

My ABKM is not luck modelled. And the rest of my trops are shit anyway.

>>16190919

So I should just all in? Give all yasen setup to Ooyodo and cut-in for the rest?
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>>16190957

Yes, even if your ABKM isn't luck moded, put her there with torp cut-in as flagship and hope for a torp cut-in. Kawakaze should be switched for another torp cut-in DD too.
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>>16190943
Just use Yamato and Mushashi. That's what I did.
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>>16190972
>Mushashi

Yeah I wish I have her. Post your fleet in last dance.
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So how do you farm for Yamakaze? Other than dropping to easy modo, that is. Light fleet works well for killing the boss but S-ranking it is hard. Bringing the dragons is G->J which itself is risky.
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>>16190957
Yesterday I was on the edge of my sanity. I tried different fleet compositions and nothing worked. At the end I just went with the light fleet with just AP, since 4 TBs can nuke better the RU node and clear some thrash at the boss.

Try to use you duck, ABKM with 2 guns and a FBB in that order for yasen and then a high luck DD (maybe Yukikaze) to snipe the boss. Eventually you'll get a mix of good travel to the boss node, good boss support and a good boss fight.
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>>16190982
See >>16170951
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>>16190969
>>16190993

This map is bullshit. I am trying my luck with heavy fleet but this time with AP only before committing my ABKM and Yukikaze.
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>>16190841
I like it too but I hope they tone the damage down a bit if they do this again. The map being a complete joke with the ships but very hard without is a bit too much.
Also this doesn't really fuck over statfags, just those that think scrapping every ship that isn't an elite is a good idea. If anything those nip streamers that use themed fleets get fucked over.
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>>16190993

Are you the same guy who spent the whole of yesterday shitting up this new thread?

>>16186711
>>16186767
>>16186786
>>16186835
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>>16191003
>before committing my ABKM and Yukikaze

You don't need either for E-5 as long as you have Prinz or Sakawa
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>>16190992
Get her while clearing the map.
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>>16190935
>56 lick

I want to lick Abukuma.
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>>16191015
So basically, I'm fucked. Oh well.
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>>16191019
Hands off! She's mine!
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>>16191029
I hope you brought ear plugs.
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Date with granny!
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>>16191042
But I like her voice. It's totemo okay desu.
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>>16190908
Hopefully we will see more of these two together, its cute.
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>>16191003
E4 is the hard map, heck I even locked Kaga and Taihou trying other compositions.

>>16191010
No, I'm the guy who suffered some weird temporal dyslexia due to sleep deprivation and called Yuudachi "Shigure". It was the Tuesday IIRC, said yesterday because it have a better ring and sounds more encouraging.

>>16191019
Now that was a Freudian slip.
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>>16191045
I want to take her to a hotel.
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>>16191042
As long as she doesn't scream KUDASAI it's fine.
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>tfw time for night battles
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>>16188561
Completely honest I never heard of that shit before. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot but are you sure you aren't just confusing it with damage to the bases and plane loses affecting the first slot?
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>>16191056
I'll take her by the chest
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>>16191011
>>16190969

Is this how it should be?
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>>16191084
I've heard of it many times but never actually seen the formula, can't find it either. It's not that I doubt it, I just want to see the actual formula myself. Let's hope theres a kind soul here to help us both
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>>16191084
First slot has bonus, that's why carriers like cranes are more preferred now.
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>>16190900
Here's mine. https://my.mixtape.moe/mfmyqc.webm

For last dance, air inferiority is fine, especially when it's more important for your carrier to do any kind of damage rather than being a reppuu mule. Also, KTKM would be better on DA setup.

I would suggest bringing abubear to help clear the trash.
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>>16191054

Whoops. Might be the guy you're replying to, then. Anyway, try to get some sleep.
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>>16191105

Tone cannot heavily damage CV Hime unless she crits so she's not the best idea for last slot.
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>>16191125

I'll try this formation first >>16191114
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>>16191084
>>16191107
>>16191112

http://aemedia.org/thread-22344-1-1.html

Table under this line:
>注意:
>裝備在第一格之熟練艦攻、艦爆和水爆其補正系數為其他格子的兩倍,即:

In case you don't trust chink runes:

http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89:464

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zAmyRo5kE_cNpszmvxPq-d99oqr9zoGh7Cz15x4DuLY/edit?usp=sharing

>1スロ1.2倍よりも小さいダメージを確認、原因不明。
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>>16191169
Thank you
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>>16190459
Only if you're a consistent top ranker.
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So for the easy exp sub node grinding in E-5, just the usual transport comp with pre-emptive asw girls in the escort and I can ignore morale?
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>>16191178
Yes
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Oh shit Granny hime, what are you doing?
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>>16190907
Saratoga is a literal perfection. I didn't expect Yoshinori and Tanaka to deliver at the same time. The art matches the voice perfectly and vice versa.
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>>16190841
>It fucks all over statfags tho
Not if you buy slots and consider each ship's identity a stat. Although I've been toying with this idea since autumn 2014/winter 2015, I started seriously considering it about a month before this event started. This stat probably has a meta portion too, since I wanted at least one of each ship since I started back in late 2013 in case some of them got really good kai nis.

I must have foresight.
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Why didn't they extend this event? This is the first event with no extension.
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>>16191045
She looks cute as fuck in normal clothes.
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>>16191197

Her voice gives me お姉ちゃん vibes though. In a different way from Aquila.
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>>16191213
But they did? It was supposed to be only 2 weeks at first.
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>>16191045
Now have her piss herself.
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>>16191213
>Why didn't they extend this event? This is the first event with no extension.

Saiki Bay needs to die again for our sins.
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>>16191213
They already did anon. The event was originally 2 weeks, they extended to next Wednesday.
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>>16191213
>This is the first event with no extension.
Literally last event. Also
>spring 2013
>winter 2013-14
>spring 2014
>summer 2014
>autumn 2014
>winter 2015
>spring 2015
The ridiculous extensions only started in summer 2015 after a long lull.
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>>16191222
>>16191224
>>16191225

It is just that I feel like this is the first even where I have not enough time to finish.
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>>16191213
Honestly, there were like 2 days the servers were acting up, outside of that it was mostly fine. If they want to extend it to another day or two for 20/21 days, I guess that's okay but only E-4 had any difficulty to it.
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>>16191248
Now that you mention it, hm.

>Summer 15
Someone screwed something up?
>Autumn 15
A server died?
>Winter 15/16
A server died again?
>Spring 16
Screw-ups on a massive scale, never before in the history of KanColle. This one doesn't even need a question mark.

Is this about right?
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>>16191251
Just give up, you don't need that catapult.
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>>16191274

It is not that I want that catapult. It is just that I am not doing it from the start again even in lower difficulty.
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>>16191222
>>16191224
>>16191225
When they say "about" two weeks, they don't literally mean 14 days. Even Arpeggio, the shortest ever event by duration, lasted 15 days. Medium sized events typically last somewhere in between 2 and 3 weeks. Compare this event to autumn 2014. Autumn 2016 has 1 more map and only 2 days longer. And without autumn 2015's one day extension both events would have lasted as long.

>>16191251
I felt the exact opposite. I finished this event more quickly than summer '16.
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>Italia, the highest hp ship in my fleet, taiha in the first air raid node

Bravo. Like a true Italian.
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>>16191273
Summer 2015 was extended literally because the event was too hard.
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>>16191316

Watch as someone comes out and calls you an scrub and tells you to git gud just for saying that.
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>>16191312
Would you have preferred taiha at the second air node?
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>>16191312
> HP on crit attacks
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>>16191330

To be frank with you upperclassman, I prefer her to get taiha at second air raid node than the very first one. At least I got some of my morale back from MVP.
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>>16191251
>>16191261

E-4 is the real choke point, after all. If you're still stuck there, it feels insurmountable, but remember: You only need one good run to get past it.

And maybe we're just so used to extensions that anything less than a week's worth of extra time feels shorter than normal, IDK.

>only E-4 had any difficulty to it
This is true, but it does feel kind of unfair to have this map as the second-last map, only to be followed by a meme final map involving silly crits from selected ships and just plain annoying unlocking/debuffing gimmicks.

People could downgrade to kuso difficulties if they really wanted to just clear the event, but even then it's the dilemma of "Do you keep going until the last minute + Will you have enough resources and time to clear the last map after that" versus "Eternal shame, had to downgrade". Whereas if the last map was on that level of difficulty, it would be a little less annoying to be throwing yourself against that brick wall.

We kind of saw this in Spring, too, with E-5/6/7, but 5 had a less dangerous Ru wall and 6 was just down to RNG smiling in your favour during that run and nuking the boss with LBAS for you. 7 was the real wall, though. Pre-boss node was especially tough with Kidou, and Suijou was bascially running on fumes by the time it reached the boss without barrels. But as a final map, that was understandable.
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Spring 2013 lasted 19 days. 4 maps.
Summer 2013 was originally scheduled to last 16 days. 4 maps.
Autumn 2013 was originally scheduled to last 19 days. 5 maps.
Spring 2014 lasted 16 days. 5 maps.
Autumn 2014 lasted 17 days. 4 maps.
Winter 2015 lasted 17 days. 5 maps.
Autumn 2015 was originally scheduled to last 19 days. 5 maps.
Summer 2016 lasted 19 days. 4 maps.
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>>16191345
>You only need one good run to get past it.

The problem is, I have no idea which setup to use. I keep changing setup but all of them either feel so underwhelming in the boss node or can't get pass the pre-boss node at all.
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>>16191326
Not even kidding on this one.
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/636341207749124096
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>>16191345
>just plain annoying unlocking/debuffing gimmicks
I think the nuclear girl gimmick is kinda neat, but I can get why some are annoyed by it since slow ship bullying is still in play and Sakawa just seems to refuse to drop for many.

And the whole debuff being almost not worth it and just a pain in the ass to get was pretty lame. The map being two parts I thought was an okay idea, better than Summer with having to go through 9 nodes, fuck that shit.
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>>16191309

Not him, but I feel like I finished Summer '16 faster than this one. Granted, I was away from the game when out of my hotel room while on holiday (less phone + WiFi for PvP and expeditions) for several days, but E-4 stonewalled me pretty badly all the same.

And I was away from the game a lot during Summer '16, too. Was travelling around Japan while that was happening, although I had my laptop with me. (Tip: Do not attempt to being an event while in line at Comiket, especially if you're on the mobile client.) At least Summer '16 had 4 full maps that were just individual maps, not 2 quasi-double maps like E-4 and E-5 this time round.
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>>16189074
I wanna be pampered by Sara.
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>>16191345
This event's E4 reminded me of IBS E4 and AL/MI E2.
A hard map followed by an easier map.
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>>16191390
It was one map shorter, so of course most people will think that way. I bucked the trend only because I developed techniques for faster map clears.
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>>16191390
>2 quasi-double maps like E-4 and E-5 this time round.
You could say that E-3 was one of these two, if only because of the debuffing process.
Not that I needed to debuff the boss to clear the map, but whatever.
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Might as well just kill myself. Such a failure.
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>>16191381
The debuff for E5 wasn't too bad honestly. Requirements were fairly easy, aside from the occasional triple Wo raid. Overall more useful/less of a multi-sortie mess than the E3 debuff.
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>>16191390
Begin* an event, I should probably spellcheck things when I'm tired.

>>16191381
It's a nice gimmick, but very situational. They got away with it this time because of muh Operation Crossroads, but there aren't that many other situations (as far as I can think of) where this might be applicable again.

I agree with you about the debuff, but while I would also take this kind of secondary starting point thing over Summer '16's 9 nodes, it becomes problematic when there aren't really any hints about how to unlock / debuff X other than through frontline players running trial-and-error. What if they try to be too clever and no one manages to figure out the gimmick? 申し訳ありません and a tweet telling everyone what to do for free?

>>16191364
Gotta make that call for yourself, man. I can offer you a list of questions that I asked myself when setting up my own fleet for Last Dance after trying a bunch of things, but I don't know if they'll help:

1. Is AACI a must? [Yes, but I'll keep Akizuki having already used her for most of the map, since I want Maya for E-5]

2. Do I want to go to the Wo-Kai node? [Not really, but I'll do it if I get to bring a heavier fleet]

3. How many CV(L)s do I need for AS (if gunning for AS) while at the same time managing to strap at least one bomber to each? [2 CVs and 1 CVL]

4. What do I fill the remainder of my fleet with that will give me the best chance of cutting through everything to reach the boss? [2 FBBs, all fast to avoid slow routing]

5. Are there any problems with this set-up? [So many. But I'll give it a shot after sparkling everything.]
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>>16190818
Disturbingly sharp jawline.
Unnerving.
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>>16191440
>申し訳ありません and a tweet telling everyone what to do for free?
They did it before for spring 2016. While the circumstances then were more compelling, if there's been a precedent they'd be more likely to do it again.
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>>16191396
Please share your hidden techniques with us.

>>16191427
I kind of wanted to bother with debuffing after managing to somehow S-rank the pre-boss node twice during chipping runs without LBAS support (thanks, Maya), but by that point I was close enough to Last Dance that I didn't bother.
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I think I used up like 10+ rice balls on E4 after using up all my goddesses
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>>16191451
You're better off trying to emulate what the frontliners do, trust me. I simply dupes whose equipment I was farming to test compass rules.

I also tried to start this event earlier and with what was known about branching rules so far, determine by process of elimination which ships I should sortie to the early maps. So just common sense that I lacked in the previous events.
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>>16191475
simply used dupes*
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>>16191451
Yeah, that's our difference. I've yet to actually kill the boss (Prinz PTSD aim penalty probably, I dunno) , so I figured spending roughly 1K fuel to lower her armor would make chipping more productive. It's only really useful if you've only 0-1 nukes. I imagine a Nagato would be destroying more things than my Kirishima right now.
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I just finished E-5 kou and that lazy cunt Nagato never hit any of the himes. Should have went with a fast fleet instead, fuck.
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>>16191493
Nukato has been wonderful to me.
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>Will have to wait until next event to get Akitsushima and Mizuho.
Should have farmed for them last event.
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>>16191489

Yeah, I had Nagato and Prinz, so my life was a lot easier. The debuff is probably there for the people who have, as you said, only one or none of the nuclear trio.

Even then, though, everything else in the boss's main fleet is that much harder to kill, or so I would imagine. Watching Nagato simply flat out delete either the CV Hime or the BB Hime right out of existence has been one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a day battle, but that has to be a lot more difficult without her. Outside of that, Kitakami managed to overcrit the BB Hime to death during a night battle just once.

Good luck getting Prinz to hit the boss at night, I guess. She's done it for me a few times (with double attacks, or even a single attack when the DA didn't trigger and the boss was already damaged) with something else still left alive in the boss fleet. And she's right at the bottom of my escort fleet, of course.
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>>16191529
Why not farm them now?
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>>16191529

E-3 is an option if you want Akitsushima. I may be going back there over the next few days; I need a Taitei to replace this busted old PBY now that I know what how the range extensions work. Diminishing returns and all that.
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>>16191345
>it's another "E7 was hard" meme
Did nobody even use fighter-bombers? Literally the one time they are useful and nobody used them but me and very few people. You also had the broken land base, so it should have been even easier.
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>>16191541
>Watching Nagato simply flat out delete either the CV Hime or the BB Hime right out of existence has been one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a day battle

I will not lie, the first time I saw a 500+ crit single attack turn CV hime into paste I got a chubby.
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There is zero reason to even try to debuff for E5.
By the time the battle start, half of the enemies would be dead. You could clear the map with ease even with only 10boats, it is that easy.
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https://twitter.com/yagimudsuki/status/804001841038012418

I don't think I have ever been so disappointed in an artist I enjoy.
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>>16191440
>They got away with it this time because of muh Operation Crossroads, but there aren't that many other situations (as far as I can think of) where this might be applicable again.

Just wait for the Ten-go map. No carriers allowed, 4DDs 1CL 1BB only. And you fight abyssal kidou fleets.
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>>16191562
The map cost me 100k. Last time that happened was Winter 15 for the second medal.
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>>16191582
>Ten-go
Ten-gou
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>>16191588
Ten-go fuck yourself
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>>16191584
Winter 15 was the first memedal event.
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>>16191588
Tee-heee go fuck yourself
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>>16191582
>No carriers allowed
Why am I supposed to be punished for not losing my carriers?
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>>16191588
Ten-gõ
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>>16191582
Can't wait for her to do excalibur tier damage.
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>>16191588
十 - 行け
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>>16191588
天号
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>>16191623
Because that's what happened.
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>>16191603
It was not. Fall 14 was.
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>>16191579
https://twitter.com/kireina_mochi/status/803073482133078016

A lot of artists are casuals.
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>>16191701
It's surprising, I think. I see so many who hardball events and brag like it's no biggie, and then the ones I really like turn out to be /a/-tier scrubs.

Never meet your heroes, only masturbate to their creations.
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>>16191700
No it wasn't you retard.
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>>16191718
Don't fuck with me, latefag. I know my stuff.
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>>16191579
>>16191701
>>16191709
Would rather have an artist that does kuso mode than an artist that doesn't play this game at all.

As long as they clear kuso mode (or at least make an effort to) they're good enough in my book.
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Which recipe do you guys use for a chance to get either 46cm or type 32 RADAR?
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>>16191724
Anyone who chooses kuso at any point of time should kill themselves. Normalfag level of disgusting.
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>>16191709
https://twitter.com/1nonomiya/status/802084710411210752

Is this better?
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>>16191722

saved
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>>16191731
Yeah, better go full hard and fail at the first or second map, not gain anything at all and have an even harder time to catch up.
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>>16191736
Oh fuck me, I love that guy.
Very proud.
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>>16191736
https://twitter.com/1nonomiya/status/794163360195432448
What the fuck man.
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>>16191749
Not my fault they started after difficulty was implemented. Not that hard is in the game.
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>>16191722
I was hoping you were baiting. Apparently you actually can't count.

Someone else, please count the number of events starting from the event anon claimed was the first event.
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>>16191709
The true BM is monkeygirl herself
https://twitter.com/C_o_nisi/status/802174168951177216
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>>16191768
>girl
Well memed
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>>16191764
First memedal was Winter 15 with Amagi.
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>>16189184
Abukuma would be up there
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>>16191750
>guy
Ichinomiya is a girl.

Speaking of girls doing hard.
https://twitter.com/molly_miki/status/800620630211080192
https://twitter.com/molly_miki/status/800748601337004032
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>>16189859
1. My last one was the Arpeggio event.
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>>16191750
>>16191785
Oh wait, wrong second link.

https://twitter.com/molly_miki/status/800619979569696768
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>>16189477
Little late, but do you have the link for this?
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>>16191805
It's on the wikia as well.
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>>16191805
wikiwiki
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Light fleet has got to be the worst meme of this event.
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>>16191810
>>16191823

Thanks. Looks like the diminishing returns in terms of range bonuses scale according to the maximum range of the recon plane.
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>>16191722
Then where is your 9th medal?
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>>16191722
>he doesn't have 9th medal
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>>16191855
Why is Houshou a cat?
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>>16191736
>>16191785
Why i don't find female's art sexy at all.
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>>16191859
Why not?
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>>16191865
I don't understand.
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>>16191859
Why isn't Tama a cat?
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>>16191867
But why?
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>>16191785
Girls drawing male TTKs instead of yuri shit seems weird.
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>>16191887
Most girls aren't lesbians.
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>>16191882
Because.
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>>16191903
Because why?
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>>16191887
Not everyone is a fucking faggot, you know.
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>>16191907
Headpat potential
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Damnit, I was getting ready to resparkle everything for last dance too.
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>>16189103
That's just RNG nigga
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>>16191910
>>16191891
Obviously, but even then it's usually just cute non-H stuff. Not complaining of course, cute H stuff is good too.
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>>16191887
They probably self-insert as the kanmusu.
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I want to kill myself.
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>>16191940
E-4 isn't THAT bad anon.
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>>16191940
You don't need that extra catapult.
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>Iowa gets oneshot by Ru in the opening shot of the battle
>twice in a row
This is why we can't have good things.
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>>16191940
C'mon Anon, event's end is days away. wwwww
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>>16191947

You want me to start over again? That is worse than death.
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>almost 3 years later and it still #1
How the fuck does this happen? Has it ever budged once?
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>>16191804

Kudos, this girl is one of the few that draws Kinugasa frequently.
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>>16191959

Other DDM games are shit.

>Shadowverse

Wow that shitty excuse of a card game is actually at top 10.
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>>16191959

Despitee objectively being one of the most half assed ones.
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>>16191954
I started over and it was comfy as fuck.
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>>16191961

>Implying Hearthstone is any better.
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>>16191962
The effort put into shipgirl quotes and general references is in no way half assed.
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>>16191959
>Strike Witches
I need to play this
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>>16191968


You know what? I actually don't want to switch now. I either clear this map at hard or never clear it. Can't get Saratoga? Fuck that shit. I am doing this at hard no matter the consequences. It has brought me so much agony that I actually don't want to clear it other than hard ghore;wyhrejnsuihtemkty
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>>16191754
https://twitter.com/1nonomiya/status/802085725680218112

>not being able to clear E-4 hard during the day
Why is /jp/ so casual?
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>>16191959
I'm pretty sure some other game(s) pushed it to 2nd or 3rd once but I forgot which.
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>>16191959
They all suck, most of them even clone the Kancolle UI to lesser effect.
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>>16191959

Wasn't there a LOGH game coming out?
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>>16191959
> Gayass sword rank 11
I'm not even surprise.
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>>16191959
What? There were plenty of times it was pushed to 5 and such, and it's because its event time obviously. Doesn't help the other games are pure trash, like even more cheap pieces of shit.
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>>16191980

>Can't get Saratoga?

You are going to regret it anon.
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>>16191980
>ghore;wyhrejnsuihtemkty

RIP anon
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>>16191981
Yahagi is CUTE.
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Help, I'm getting Tanaka'd!

After unlocking the second starting point, I got 4 runs with a princess kill without any problem (3 of them against the "final" comp). Then my fleet chocked 7 times on the route and 3 on the boss, killing everything but her.
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Someone please, come to my house and kill me. End this unnecessary suffering.
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>>16191980
>Can't get Saratoga? Fuck that shit.
No, fuck you. Sara is a miracle.
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>>16192021

I had 22 runs just for last kill anon, same story as yours. Keep at it anon, she'll fall eventually
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>>16191980
>not wanting super USN planes
You're making a big mistake anon.
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv283646221

braided hair girls are cute
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>>16192024
オチロ
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>>16192001
I wouldn't really shit on gayswords. Kancolle should take some notes from them on how to improve game's QoL, for example, make game's screen bigger, all quests being ticked by default, and overall TKRB feels more smooth and fluid.
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>>16192038
>22 runs
No one can be that unlucky in the submarine node.
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>>16192049
>braid fleet
What the kek?
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>>16192057

Actually, it wasn't the submarine node since I brought 2 OASW ships with me but the triple Wo Kai node and preboss.
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Fucking knew complaining in /jp/ was the trick.

>>16192038
>22 runs
Now that's bad luck. I used a fast fleet tho, fuck adding another layer of bullshit RNG.
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>>16192047
>USN Planes
>super
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>>16192081
>kaga pfft.jpg
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>>16192081

It's ok Kaga, you were sunk before they were deployed by the murricans so it's natural you don't know.
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>>16192049

WHY THE FUCK IS HE USING A BASE KTKM?!
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>>16192100
CL
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>>16192093
She was still sunk by junk planes, very embarrassing, quite sad.
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>>16191887
They self-insert, duh
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>>16192049
>including Ooyodo because of 1 seasonal
Weak.
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20k fuel
100 buckets
12 failed final kill runs
I don't understand how the fleet that killed e-3 boss 4 times during chipping can all the sudden fail every single kill. I can't even imagine starting e-4.
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>several pre-final kills
>on last dance literally everything that could in any way go wrong keeps going wrong
I want out of this shit game.
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>>16191987
It's out but the lack of any talk about it says it all. I do see it in the ad sidebar every so often.

The Monmusu Kancolle ripoff seems to be dead too.
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>>16192151
I know that feeling, I had around 50 E2 runs before I could even Kill the boss once
Still haven't cleared it
I hope for forgiveness from the likes of Saratoga
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>>16190761
I did six runs with heavy fleet and didn't get taiha'd on Ru node even once. Wo once, preboss once, four times reach boss.

Are you by any chance using "heavy" fleet with CVL and DD?
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>>16191216
She's like Mutsu but calmer and without teasing.
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My level 50 Nagato just did a whooping 101 critical damage to BB Hime. Back on the bench she goes.
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>>16192228
Literally, how does this shit keep happening? It's like the aimbot gets activated during last dance.
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>>16190957
>My ABKM is not luck modelled.
Do you really think people had luck modded Abukuma a month after she got Kai Ni back when every-fucking-body was using Abukuma on E3, E6 and E7?
She's the only ship who can safely use TCI setup with less than 40 luck (technically Myoukou too but she only makes sense with Skilled Lookouts) - because it's worth it for stronger opening torpedo alone. If you luck boost her, it just makes her even better.
Flagship Abukuma with base 20 luck and one yasen gear active has ~55% chance of activating torpedo cut-in, decent enough.
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>THREE (3) Akitsumaru
God damn it, just give me Oyashio.
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>>16192280
Why didn't you accept Sakawa as you Lord and Savior? She was easily farmable some time ago.
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>>16192269
Shit happens I guess, she did direct attacks on the Jellyfish and it was either 400 damage or more or pitiful scratch damage of 30 or less.
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>>16192295
That's 3 daihatsu.
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>>16192296
Yeah was, I never expected her to ever have any use so I scrapped her multiple times. Now even if I get her I'll still have no use for her because I will have cleared the map if she drops.
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>>16192296
Last time she only dropped on Ass Wall. Before that you could get her from E4, but most people were busy with E5/E7 or farming trophy DDs.
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>>16192302
Serves you right, then.
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>>16192302
One of these days Tanaka will make a what if map that has you need all four nuclear girls to have better routing and you will regret your words and misdeeds.
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>>16192298
>Jellyfish
A CUTE!
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>>16192291
To be fair, that's when you use her as flagship, if you want her in the bottom to finish a boss, you need to feed her some Maruyu.
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>>16192301
Nigga I run 2/5/6(21)(38) I don't need that many.
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>>16192313
Again? You can now safely scrap that runt forever.
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>>16192314
The little tears depicted in her CG make me sympathize her.
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15m duplex + t21 kai ni upgradable when?
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>>16192295
I got like 6 Natatos/Mutsues, and one Pola. I'll rather get some FREE daihatsu.
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>>16192268
>Teasing
Is it that doujin again with Battleship princess?
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>>16192314
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>>16192336
1k fuel/run is not FREE.
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>>16192320
We're going to get another crossroads girl eventually.
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>>16192268
More like she's like Mutsu but not like Mutsu at all and actually good.
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>>16192280
>Yodo
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>1 ship chuuha before the last aerial node
>"surely the chance she gets taiha'd from this is extremely small"
>aimbot goes for her anyway
Why does this happen literally every time? It's more rare to be able to pass than it is to get taiha in that situation.
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>>16192356
I've always been convinced that damaged ships get aimed at more often.
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>>16192356
>>aimbot
You have literally answered your question.
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>>16192351
Wow rude.
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>>16192351
Hey, fuck you. Mutsu blows!
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r10 of KR KCV is up.
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>>16192351
Mean, Mutsu a cute snail.
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>>16192378
I'm not a big fan of her, even though she has a dynamite body.
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>>16192385
Shhhh, Comandant Teste is listening, we don't want her eating Mutsu

don't wake up the sleeping voraphiles
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So what's the final verdict on Sara? remodel or not?
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>>16191980
>>16191954
Just cleared it with light fleet. Was in the same boat as you.

Night recon can proc in AI but not AP, if that helps. Realizing this I went full madman and only put fighters in 2 slots on my CVL. AS isn't worth it, AP isn't worth it. RNG didn't give a shit how many Reppu I had or that I had a luck modded Kasumi Kai 2 with skilled lookouts she choked 3 times.
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>>16192394
Remodel obviously for stats, but if you really like the white color then keep it.
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>>16192391
But Teste eating out Mutsu would be a pretty good sight.
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>>16192394
Holy fuck yes remodel. She has the largest first slot of any carrier. 1 torp 36 slot 3 fighters in the 18 plane slots is going to be extremely valuable for Kidou.
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>>16192394
Leave the medium range for cranes, NB performance sucks anyway and everything looks better in navy blue. Remodel of course.
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>Nagato keeps shooting at the escort fleet
It's useless to take her, right? It really doesn't feel like she's worth the extra node.
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>>16192399
No, eating Mutsu whole, the french eat snails, not eating them out
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>>16192410
I know about some strange french eating habits and also I now want to see a TestexMutsu yuri doujin.
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>>16192409
>It really doesn't feel like she's worth the extra node.
Because it's not worth it. You add another node of RNG bulshittery and higher fuel penalty on pre-boss and boss nodes.
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>>16192416
May your dreams come true
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>>16192409
You can take her for the last kill but for all the chipping runs it's too much of a pain in the ass.
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>>16192450
I'm only taking her for last kill now, but she just refuses to shoot the main fleet. The 4 times I reached the boss she's done nothing but shoot the escorts, usually the one on the lost health too.
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>>16192460
How can she only shoot the escorts when the first shelling phase is main vs main only?
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>>16192337
Mutsu is very teasing in half or more of the doujins. I love her very much.
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>>16192318
Well, that's why you use your boosted daughteru, Shigure or shit like Yukikaze as clutch killer and Abukuma is the flagship so that you can listen to her instructions.
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>>16192481
True, she goes for one of the destroyers there. Never for anything else out of those 4 times. But I'm switching her out, I had more success pre-final, without her.
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>>16192318
When I cleared summer E7 last year she was 6th spot. Kept failing when she was flag.
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>>16192397
Maybe you'll finally learn your lesson and remodel poor unfinished Kasumin instead of using her improperly.
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>>16192499
If she were teasing me, I'd do the same as battleship princess, I can't stand being teased either.

>TFW I'm relating to that monster
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>>16192512
>shit like Yukikaze

Rude.
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>>16192512
>shit like Yukikaze
We'll forgive you since we all know you meant to type "shitgure or Yukikaze", but please double check your posts in the future. Yukikaze is a good girl.
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>>16192528
>futanari
Digsusting. Kill yourself.
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>>16192549
>Disgusting
I already frequent /d/ and know many people there might disagree.
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>First half of the day: smooth rides to boss node with taking minor damage and rare random taihas, score 2 kills on the boss aside from chipping.
>Second half of the day: get bashed all around, at least 2 ships reach boss in orange one of them is a carrier, can't take out the escort, can't even kick BB himes ass in yasen.
Did i upset my girls /jp/? Kitakami and Yukikaze showed me that they can do ~350 critical damage to anything in night battle in E-5 but now i'm just spending 300-700 bauxite per sortie just trying to roll the dice to either at least reach the boss or see how 2 of my ships get dissabled at the start of the battle and leave too much hp on both Jellyfish and Hime making a kill imposible.
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Do you need perfect LBA defense 2 times in one sortie to unlock the second E5 starting point? I've already fucking S-ranked the A node 3 times and done 2 perfect defences on 2 separate sorties
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>>16192588
Sara-tan so great, just as expected from a murrican vessel.
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>>16192595
Seperate is fine, but if you get perfect defense because they missed it doesn't count.
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Fuck you aimbot, stop hitting Prinz.
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>>16192566
Why is Sara flat?
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>>16192602
So I need to shoot down all planes? Even getting white text on a miss isn't good enough?
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>>16192610
Yes.
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>>16192614
Fucking Tanaka
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>>16192608
Adrian Ferrer is like ZUN, he is simply incapable of drawing girls with breasts.
>Select all images with botes
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So are these extra catapults going to be actually useful or are the devs just accommodating ppl that want both Crane remodels?
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>>16192614
Got a perfect defense and now it's unlocked, time to nuke the boss with Prinz and Nagato

Thanks for the help.
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>>16192669
I bet it's also for retards that managed to get one of their cranes sunk.
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>>16192678
Note that slow ships aren't welcome by Tanaka and he may take apropriate measures.
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>>16192669
We cannot know.
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Why do people consider the 10 range plane as better than the 8 one?
Distance is largely dependent on the lowest range anyways and you won't be sending four M22A on a sortie.

Is it just an excuse to drop down?
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>>16192669
You'll want to dupe both Akagi and Kaga kai ni for extra jets.
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>>16192699
>Why do people consider the 10 range plane as better than the 8 one?
They are same idiots that said the 51cm was useless.
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>>16192699
>you won't be sending four M22A on a sortie
If I had an extra Taitei I would.
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>>16192703
But this time medium plane is really better.
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>>16192702
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>>16192699
I consider the the T1 34 to be better simply because it has more AA. Having more AA for the first wave of bombers is important so the second wave needs less and focus more on firepower.
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>>16192708
Taitei is +3, so an 8 range can hit boss.
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Eyy buddy, three months of playing this game, finally.
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>>16192710
Unless you get 3 more, no, is worse.
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>>16192699
Also the retards who love to
>hehe, I found something wrong in game I spend hundreds of hours on, it's hilarious that it is badly designed, it's so ironic I'm still spending hundreds of hours on it while crying about its creator who gives me salt
I wanted to puke just typing this shit even though I was really tame.
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>>16192722
You don't know if they're going to adjust the formula again. I fully expect to be forced to send 2 Taitei+Catalina+bomber to boss at some point.
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>>16192699
How are you going to raise the lowest range of those four planes if you pass up more long range planes? 2 is a shorter road than 3.

>>16192703
>They are same idiots that said the 51cm was useless.
The 51cm was hands down better than the medium rewards, people just thought the fit gun effects would make a difference. Here it's a difference of 2 range vs 1 AA and 1 accuracy between the planes. The two situations aren't comparable at all unless the hard mode plane has some secret fit plane nonsense.
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>>16192724
Congrats, man. I surprised though that you see her sprite when getting her for the first time. Never ever happens with me.
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>>16192737
AA and accuracy are clearly better.
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>>16192735
Doubt they'll change the formula since world 6 has LBAS now.

>>16192737
>How are you going to raise the lowest range of those four planes if you pass up more long range planes

Taitei. 10 range isn't enough for boss right now.
If I'm too overly concerned about range, I wouldn't be able to bring Nonoka and Ginga.
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>Planning on using a SS fleet for E-2
Will I regret? Is the Hiryuu and Souryuu fleet better?
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>>16192737
Only the best planes have that +1 accuracy. Also, you use the shorter range of the base, so unless you get 3 more planes with range 10, is worse.
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>>16192752
>world 6 has LBAS now
So what? That never stopped them from adjusting a mechanic.
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>>16192702
>jets
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>>16192771
Please stop using Houshou to shitpost.
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>>16192762
Also it was a top 100 rank reward, so clearly there is something wrong with it.
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>>16192682
But those kinds of retards are incapable of doing hard.
I hope.
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>>16192806

Thank God she didn't get a Senjougahara personality. I wouldn't mind it for Enterprise though.
>>
>You'll need two catapults because Akagi and Kaga are getting armored remodels and Tanaka will never ever add a quest to get more.
>You'll need 4 hard medals because Yamato is getting a kai 2 and it will require a special hard blueprint.
>You'll need Sakawa because there's going to be a quest requiring all four Aganos to unlock the fifth fleet.
What other great theories am I missing from over the years?
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>>16192821

Shinano will come.
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>>16192818
What you mean like a Tsundere?
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>>16192821
If you don't think the catapult is going to Shinano and Ibuki, there is something wrong with you. If the player does not have the items, they are stuck with another BB and cruiser. Kaga and Akagi are getting an old school remodel like the dragons, just a flat increase to stats.
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>>16192847
>Ibuki
Maximum kek. That's just a light carrier at best.
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>>16192885
Light ARMORED carrier. Or heavy torpedo cruiser (like >100 torp with >70 fp, >70 armor and >50 HP). Ibuki would be absolutely amazing but she won't happen.
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>>16192780
Houshou-san!
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>>16192588
>Battlecruiser Saratoga?
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>>16192917
Houshou is a real women.
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>>16192957
She's a bote daughter, she's not a real anything.
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>>16192818

Only a CVL can get Senjougahara personality because she is canonically light.
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augh, I still can't even beat E-2 Easy, and it's looking unlikely that I'll get a single ship to Kai Ni before the event ends

I should probably just give up on getting Sara
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>>16193028

Well played anon, well played.
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>>16192885
It's okay, we desperately need more of them
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>>16193040
I completed my first even thanks to the power of good kai ships, like the Atagos, Shimakaze and Yukikaze.

This event is pretty bullshit tho.
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>>16192838
Senjougahara isn't a tsundere.
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>>16193057
Shes a Yandere.
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I don't like E4.
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>>16193080
Will E-4 be the map that kills Kancolle?
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>>16193077
Not really. She doesn't fit any of the archetypes, if I had to describe her in one word I would probably use a "sociopath".
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>>16193099
Like I said, shes a yandere.
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>>16193086
No, it will be equipment locking that kills Kancolle.
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>>16193099
If I had to describe her in one word I would probably use "cunt".
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>>16193103
No. Yandere are friendly on the outside which isn't the case for Senjougahara. She only shows her dere side to her loved one and rarely at that. Like I said, none of the -deres fit her.

>>16193108
Doesn't tell the whole story, far from it.
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>>16193124
>Doesn't tell the whole story
"Turbocunt" then?
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>>16193131
who was she a turbo cunt toward?
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>>16192910
>Implying the Devs will make such a class
Kek.
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>>16193145
Didn't you see I said she won't happen?
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Did the weekly quest stop counting event boss nodes or am I going crazy
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>>16193153
Node A isn't a boss node, anon.
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Anyone else staying warm this winter with an ofuro?
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>>16190661
>What will be the hardest event? Leyte Gulf?

Either Return to Pearl Harbor or the conclusion to Bikini Atoll/Baker tests, so either way it will be a multi-hime/water demon showdown.
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>>16191959
>Sword Boys already 11th place

What is it lacking that it can't keep up with Kancolle's popularity?
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>>16193187
Girls
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>>16193182
>Return to Pearl Harbor or the conclusion to Bikini Atoll/Baker tests
That was Spring and the current event.
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>>16193190
But fujos get obsessed with boys too.
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>>16193180
I'd rather stay warm under the blankets with my ships.
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>>16193180 Close your window retard.
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Maya
Iowa
Taihou
Zuikaku
Shoukaku
Saratoga

I'm sure people will use this exact comp for main fleet Kidou next event.
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>>16193225
>Maya
Eww.
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>>16193225
Don't count on it, the devs always find a way to fuck you over.
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Th-thanks
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>>16193234
Use route support.
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>O node constantly raping my ships
Just please
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>2/2 with subs in 2-4

Holy shit. Absolutely based.
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>>16191701
>>16191709
>casuals

Fujita Saki has all the e-peen medals and UGUME got his, this week.
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>>16193279
We were talking about fan artists.
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>>16191724
>an artist that doesn't play this game at all

You mean like Uesaka Sumire?
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>>16193196
But we didn't retake Pearl Harbor.
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>>16193196
I know, but one more Pearl Harbor because we didn't actually beat Central Hime, and the other nuclear ships have not been rescued/fought yet.
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>>16193239
that was with route support
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Left or right?
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>>16193292
The only other Nuclear ship that might be relevant is Indie.
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>>16193310
Both.
You can't stop me. I'll be like that teitoku in the Jintsuu doujin.
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>>16193086
Not with difficulty choice
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>>16193086
Hard exclusive ship will be the death of KC, though, I'd be cool with that.
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Truly the best girl.
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>>16193286
I wouldn't have much motivation either if I voiced the worst girl.
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>>16193295
Craft more T32.
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>>16193389
Since when does Hiei have a searchlight on her thigh?
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>>16193406
It's Type 96.
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so far no ships sunk from livestreams on nicolive that I've seen, which is very odd.
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>>16193419
I can't believe nobody is sinking anything at E4 but people have lost their minds on easier maps.
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>>16193421
The same people who would lose their minds probably cleared it easily on medium or less without a second thought.
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>>16192409
I use her as flagship of my shelling support fleet so she still gets to participate to the map somehow.
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>>16192699
I'd still do hard mode even if medium gave better rewards. Even if medium gave both M34 and M22A and hard gave neither. Even if medium gave a shit ton of goodies and hard only gave a memedal.
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>>16192735
>not 3 taitei + bomber
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>>16193279
>Fujita Saki has all the e-peen medals
No she doesn't. We know for a fact that she failed to clear summer '16 E4.
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>>16193286
She's a seiyuu.

>>16193364
Rude.
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Can someone please tell me if quest F25 is worth it?

>Equip a rank 7 Type 0 Fighter Model 21 (Skilled) on a Carrier secretary, then scrap 2 Type 0 Fighter Model 52

Reward is Type 0 Fighter Model 52 (Skilled).

One more AA but less range plane.
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>>16193658
I do it to get max star skilled M52s for cheap.
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Whats the best way to help my survivability on this node? I have 9 retreats from the opening airstrike.
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>>16193679
Akizuki
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>>16193679
Sparkle, AP, more AA, punch a hole for damecon.
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>>16193679
AACI
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>>16193679
Ducky AACI
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>>16193681
>>16193685
>>16193686
>>16193688
thanks dad
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>>16193679
Quack.
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What's Hatsuzuki's personality supposed to be?
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cooldown on swtiching LBAS planes is easily one of the stupiest fucking things they've implemented

hell LBAS entirely is garbage shit
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>>16193721
Shitty Shiggy wannabe.
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>>16193721
A serious person who defends others.
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>>16193721

She doesn't have one.
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After a whole night of wasted sparkles I've reached the boss just once.
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>>16192394
like with Yu, get two and remodel both
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I got my Saratoga on easy
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How bad is E-4 hard exactly? I only just finished E-3, if it's as bad as some of you say I might as well just do medium since there isn't much time left.
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Ryuujou will rid the world of big-boobed whores in the name of the pettanko master race!
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>>16191529
Okay, that's one down. Now let's see if I can get Akitsushima, Yamakaze, Kawakaze and Mikuma. I would be satisfied getting the first three though, especially Kamo.
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>>16193759
Ryuujou can go kill herself. Big breasts and ass forever!
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>>16193753
pretty bad and entirely luck based to get to boss, if you're low on buckets and resources, I recommend dropping difficulty, especially if you plan to do Hard for E-5
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>>16193751
You don't deserve her.
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>>16193766
>if you're low on buckets and resources
600 buckets, 95k fuel 120k ammo 100k steel 70k baux. I do intend to try for memedal, what I'm low on is time remaining.
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>>16193776
If you really feel pressed for time then you can do medium for E-4 but we will all know for you will neither have an extra catapult or dupe cranes.
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Is Taigei worth remodeling?
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>>16193780
Well I still have the spare catapult from last summer which is why I'm considering just ignoring this one.
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>>16193787
Remodel two.
Kai one.
Keep one for tender.
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>>16193765
Is this real? He works fast
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>>16186947
>>16193776

5 hours. Get to it.
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>>16193776
Just to give you some perspective on the unlucky side of e-4. I've retreated 12 times on the TP reduction (which is fine because the tp bar on hard is super low) and I've only spent 2k fuel. So you don't have to worry about the resource sink. Just patience.
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>>16193793
It's been out for a few days now. I got the picture on November the 20th. So he worked really fast.
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>>16193793
It's clearly an upscaled print of the game sprite.
Wouldn't take long to do.
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>>16193763
And now I have what I need. The perfect cum-dumpster.
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>>16193799
It's about time not resources. Fuck having shit to do irl.

>>16193798
What fleet was that done with?
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>>16193765
Ukyou-dantai coming to vandalize it in 3-2-1...
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>>16193759
Would strangle RJ if she harmed Sara-chi.
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>>16193863
They have bigger things to tackle like stage protests.
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Have these threads changed lately now that KanColle threads are banned from /a/?
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Nothing says fun like having to fucking sparkle every 2-3 fucking failed runs.
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>>16193906
No, they're the same event-time threads we have every season.
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>>16193906
It feels like there's been a big influx of new players, but it's like that every event.
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>>16193906
Tbh I only show up to these threads when there's an event and I suppose there are a lot more like me.
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The catapult is for Nimu!
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Nah, the only way to tell we have people from /a/ will be after the event.
I doubt it though. Watch these threads slow down, after the event.
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I haven't even reached the E4 boss even once tonight, what more do you fucking want from me?
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>>16193920
God she's so perfect
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>>16193926
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I've been stuck at LD for 3 days. Someone go feed Tanaka so I can leave E4.
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Why were Kancolle threads banned from /a/?
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>>16193936
Because they degenerated to gatherings of the scum of the earth
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>>16193936
Because they stopped being about translations and appeared all the fucking time. We at least talk about the game.
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>>16193933
It's almost over
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I just got a pair of dragon dupes, are they worth keeping?
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How does this story end?
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv283656842

doing large ship construction in the middle of doing E-4
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>>16193960
Just Souryuu for the planes.
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>>16193960
Worth farming planes from.
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>>16193961
Manlet japs couldn't touch 6'4" Iowa.
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>>16193920
Oh right, chapters come out an hour earlier now thanks to DST ending.
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>>16193960
I would get one extra Hiryuu and then all the Souryuu you want.
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>>16193963
What's the name of the remix playing right now?
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>>16193961
An autograph from Iowa
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Yesterday people on Twitter were actively drawing Aoba and today they're talking about her Kai Ni and adding things like "青葉改二待機" and "青葉改二を切実に願う" to their profile names. Is it just because of the movie?
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>>16193961
Bullying Iowa can't end well.
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>>16193985
The next Kai 2 was confirmed to be for a CA, so it's probably wishful thinking.
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>>16193985
I'm glad she's actually popular, the CAs are probably the most flawless group of girls in the game. Not 1 is bad.
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>>16193993
>Not 1 is bad.
Zara.
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>>16193993
>Not 1 is bad

Except your favorite.
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>>16193993
>>16193985
Well she is the only one from her group that doesn't have a Kai Ni yet.
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>>16193991
I want to have sex with KTKM!
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Why don't they wear ear protection?
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>>16194025
Presumably their eardrums are much tougher than those of ordinary humans.
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>>16194025
Fairy magic
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>>16194025
They are not even human, they possess a ship soul.
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>>16194025
Because that would look stupid.
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What would a theoretical Zumwalt shipgirl be like?
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Is it really possible to actually beat E4 with the 2DD/FBB/CAV/CVL fleet?
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Everyone's already done with this event, right?
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>>16194056
I did. Kasumi with the clutch TCI
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>>16194055
Drawn by Ayaki
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>>16194056
Yes. Last dance took me just 3 sorties with that exact composition.
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>>16194057
I haven't finished E6 yet.
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>>16194065
I'm about 15 runs in with 1 boss arrival. All sparkled with support.
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>>16194071
Spare your sanity and go easy.
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>>16194057
Done leveling Sara to event sortie-able level, working on Teste and Mizuho.
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>>16194071
AACI and getting AP I take it?
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can someone show me a common set up for boss shelling support
last battle these fully sparkled girls took out a DD and chipped a wo
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>>16194079
Depends on how much shit gets destroyed on the way there. I'm bordering on FP.
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Heh.
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>>16194057
I am going to farm E5 for extra puddings, Maruyus and an Oyashio.
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>>16193171
T, obviously
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>>16193776
I had to give up on E-4 hard due to a combination of limited time and bad RNG. It sucks, but at least Shigure won't poke fun at me for being a NEET.
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>>16194057
Yeah. I am farming for Yamakaze and Kawakaze now. Got Mizuho and Akitsushima. Now finally I can use the much needed flying boat.
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>>16194089
kek
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>>16194095
You mean E-4 hard or the event as a whole?
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>>16194089
Someone needs to stop this girl.
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>>16194091
Good luck. Pudding already has a low drop rate, and S ranks only seem to drop Nagato
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>>16194111
So that's where those dupe Nagatos came from, I wasn't even paying attention to drops anymore since every new girl had already dropped by the time I got there.
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I don't understand why every ship targets the Ri in 3-5 roulette
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Is Uranami worth keeping?
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>>16194089
>drinking piss
Get better and classier alcohols.
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>>16194126
To do quests.
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>>16194110
>still no Zara kai 2 or pasta kai 2 at all
>still no armored CA
>Prinz gets bullshit armor because???
>4 kraut remodels
>1 was a pity remodel and the other came right out of the box
Tanaka can't keep getting away with it.
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What game should I play after I finish the event?
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>>16194126
Yes.
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>>16194135
Titanfall 2
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>>16194135
KanColle
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>>16194135
Shadowverse is fun.
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>>16194135
Go clear world 6. It's honestly harder than this event was.
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One hour of sparkling completely gone in 15 minutes....
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>>16194160
>tanaka.jpg
>We hope you continue to enjoy CanThis
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>>16190817
You're not my supervisor.
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>>16194160
That's why I never sparkle.
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>>16194131
>Prinz get bullshit armor because???
I guess it's because she survived both nuke tests and capsized later. That said when you are farther from the blast it's easier to survive the nuke.
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>>16194167
It's not really an outstanding achievement. If anything crossroads showeds that nukes are pretty shit are sinking armored ships unless they're right on top of ground zero.
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>>16194107
E-4 hard. I usually do all hard, but have too much work this month to be able to do that.
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Had anyone else noticed Nagato seems to target Jellyfish-Hime more often than not? Mine always seems to go after her.
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>>16194183
Not really.
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http://ecchi.iwara.tv/videos/pde3afeawhjvj7wd
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>>16194164
>CanThis
>big T
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>>16194175
I am not disagreeing with you anon.
Saratoga got considerable damage during the first test despite being far away but then again she is a wooden deck carrier plus she had aircraft aboard her with fuel.
And during the second test Saratoga was even closer than Nagato to the blast.

That said the only other explanation is that Prinz has the Krupp steel meme applied to her in gameplay.
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>>16194214
Did Americans really blow up so many useful ships just to test a nuke.
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>>16194214
Yet her sisters were dogshit and sank rather easily. What a shame.
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>>16194220
Yes. America doesn't like to talk about it, but they love their nukes.
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>>16194220
"useful"
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>>16194201
My God, the queen can fly!
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>>16194220
90% of the ships at Crossroads were old and outdated. Plus, the USN had a glut of newer warships thanks to wartime production.
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>>16194220
By the end of World War II USA had way more ships than they knew what to do with, to the point that even scrapping them would have been more expensive than just scuttling them or dispose of them as target ships.
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>>16194233
>>16194220
Not to mention the change in tech leading to the obsolete BBs and the change to missile cruisers and destroyers.
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>>16194223
>>16194220
>Any of those ships, especially the old dreadnoughts.
>useful.
Sara was a shame but they certainly weren't going to use Enterprise and Ranger was too fragile(Ranger was their first choice).
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>>16194240
Cause Enterprise had a much more enviable fate right.
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>>16194244
There were already plans to make her into a Museum back then. They just couldn't raise the funds. Unlike Warspite, Enterprise didn't get Scrapped right away.
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>>16194220
We had a surplus of ships. Need I remind you there were 175 Fletchers total by 1945?
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>>16194220
Those were all pretty outdated ships. Prinz Eugen was relatively modern, but being a foreign ship means there weren't any engineers in the US qualified to work on her. Her engines were already breaking down from lack of maintenance by the time she got to bikini.
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>>16194274
She had a German crew when arriving to the USA
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Do you guys send LBAS to O to help get past there, or send it to the boss node to help clear things?
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Monkey see...
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>>16194287
Send them all to triple Wo.
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>>16194279
And then they left to go back home causing her to start breaking down. Prinz's machinery needed qualified people for her. Some of her equipment such as the sonar was of good quality so we removed it before sending her off.
During our inspections of her we also found her to be overwired.
Note the lend-lease ships Britain and the United States gave to Russia also were in bad condition when returned.
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>>16194290
Warspit does not have tits that big.
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>>16194287
I do 50/50.
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Who is your favorite Asashio?
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>>16194318
Asashio > Arashio Yamagumo > Ooshio > Asagumo > Arare > Michishio > Kasumi
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>>16194318
Man, Asagumo and Yamagumo stand out way too much. They literally are gumos in Asashio uniform.
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Fuck.
My biggest regret is not getting an S rank for my scrapbook.
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>>16194312
Kasumi and Michishio.
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How the fuck does E4 turn hotels into paste?
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>>16194332
There's a reason they're called useless hotels.
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>>16193596
Now this is autism.
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>>16194312
>Fujikawa does art for everybody except these 2
Feels like crap
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>>16194135
Myth
Zero Escape
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>>16194323
You can always go again
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>>16194345
But he won't get the exploding hp bar
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>>16194343
>Zero Escape
Danganronpa probably ruined that game for me.
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>>16194348
He can edit it in with photoshop.
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>>16194355
Why can't he just shop BB hime dead then
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>>16194361
That'd be easier yeah. He should just do that.
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>>16194343
>Zero Escape
Just read Ever17.
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from 250 buckets down to 80 on E4 hard, when do I switch to medium?
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>>16194399
When you're comfortable with being called kuso for the rest of your TTK career.
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>>16194414
I think I'll just keep going until I hit zero buckets and I don't clear this map I'm done with this game
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>>16194399
Just switch and get the memedal and Saracchi.
Don't waste your time there for +1AA and +1ACC
It is not worth it.+9/+10 range plane can bomb O without taitei.
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>>16194399
Post fleet fag.
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>>16194421
Why would you bomb O instead of just sending fighters for a higher chance of Wo being disabled?
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What's the ideal yasen setup for Bisko? Is it something esoteric like throwing in torps and the Latte plane, or is it defaulting to 2 reds and 1 AP shell?
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>>16194448
flashlight, flare, night scout, gun
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>>16194448
Baguette plane is a bomber so she can't use it.
Either use a normal setup with AP shell or make her a yasen mule with night scout and searchlight.
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>>16193844
Now I just need Yamakaze to complete the IJN 19th destroyer division.
>>16194221
I never said the meme was real.
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Has anyone upgraded their LOS equipment? How much of a difference did it make this event?
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>>16194476
I had to upgrade 4 obs planes so I could get my subs to the e-2 boss.
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E-5
I'm running out of bauxtie, should I go Surface Task Force? I mean 1 FBB 3 CA(V) 2 CVL(Fast) + 1 CL 1 CLT 2 CA(V) 2 DD.
Someone tried this?
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>>16194516
Can this Pola turn into Ideon, too?
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>>16194349
How so?
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Prinz finally kills the boss, gauge officially in last dance territory, and then pic related happens. Should I take a day off to grind her, or should I just modernize armor and FP to go for mini-nuke mode.
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>>16194516
I know there was a surface fleet that went MOP, but I forgot what it was.

>>16194525
DR threads and the anime gave spoilers.
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>>16194543
I thought surface started at U and transport was M
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>>16194042
>they possess a ship soul.
So?
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>>16194543
That was a transport fleet; I think some guy was doing that.
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>>16194135
Kancolle, prepare for the next event.
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>>16194545
>>16194549
Naw, I'm confident it was surface since it had 2 CVL.
I didn't save it because it was stupid to go with so little air power.
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>>16194062
>>16194065
what setup did you use to get parity and enough LOS?
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>>16194539
Mod armour + FP is enough
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>>16194543
>>16194565
Not more than 1 BB in fleet.
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>>16194568
Cool, time to feed.
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Is it supposed to be normal to fail getting to the E4H boss LD with a super heavy fleet 10 times in a row?
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Why is this not last dance?
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>>16194584
>Urakaze
wow
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>>16194468
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>>16194584
Because fuck you in particular.
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How many Prinz am I supposed to farm before quitting the event?
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>>16194594
What's wrong with Urakaze?
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>>16194600
All of them.
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>>16194600
I am not sure if it's worth to farm Prinz with her low drop rate.
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>>16194600
Wasn't the amount of Prinz you could get limited by how many FuMOs you had anyways?
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>>16194600
>m-muh placebo support radars!
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>spent more buckets unlocking 2nd start than killing boss.
Crossroads really made E5 a pushover.
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>>16194604
Nothing, she's amazing

>>16194612
Is it really? I managed to get a single dupe so far, so wondering if it's even worth diving in for more
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>>16194634
I remember FuMo being the main thing stopping people in previous events.
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>>16194612
The amount of Prinz you have in port, so you had to scrap/feed her away to get a new one.
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>>16194650
So I need to kai my dupe first before trying again?
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>>16194659
I have no idea, I think from a couple events you were allowed to keep dupes but the more you had the lower the chances were. Pretty much the same thing as Yuu.
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>>16194650
Then what was with those reports about not getting any more Prinz after a certain amount of FuMos.
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>>16194664
I never heard of it, but Prinz locking due to how many you had was the thing at first.
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only 50 buckets left on E4 hard, do I even have enough to finish if I drop to medium or does it not even matter anymore
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>>16194668
50 buckets is enough for medium.
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What should I be looking to bring to E2E if I only have one of the dragons?
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>>16194668
Go big or go home.
Or become fucking coward and /jp/ will laugh at your ass from now on
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>>16194667
I can't remember which event it was in but I think it was the event after the one she appeared as drop where these reports were made.
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>>16194681

try not typing like an ESL if you want people to take you seriously
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>>16194668
If you want a chance at Sara, then it's enough.
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Neat
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>>16194668
Place priority on saving Sara, you can finish the event if you go medium now.
On the other hand, if you try to finish out on hard, RNG may say no to you.
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>>16193310
Left is softer.
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>>16194691
I've already dumped 200 buckets on E4 hard, it has already said no, I was just wondering if that was enough for E4 medium and E5 hard
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>>16194687
Enough to make you butthurt
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>>16194696
I net used a hundred buckets on E4H and 50 on E5H.
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>>16194698
>4500¥
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At what point should I start doing LSC?
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv283663678

if Mogami actually did a cut-in, Nishimura Fleet would've cleared the map but she whiffed, Shigure cant deal anywhere near 600 damage at full ammo
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>>16194710
ASAP
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>>16194710
As soon as you've cleared all expeditions and can get the resource pipeline going.
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Joy! Day 5 is almost over on E4. Maybe day 6 will be lucky!
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This is fun.
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http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2016_Event

From the E-4 page:

>It is possible to do high damage or to sink in one shot the boss at V node using Torpedo Bombers. Proof: 1. It has not been tested on Last Dance. Works on last dance/final kill.

I recall getting silly numbers during the shelling phase when AKaga basically almost nuked her to death at the end of the day fight (which may have nothing to do with this since I had a Green T), but was the CV Hime always weak to torpedoes? Or is it just for this map?

Or is this just
>Wikia
?
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>>16194673
how many submarines do you have?
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The more I've fapped to a girl the lower luck she gets during marriage. Like I've never fapped to goya and hacchan and boom, 6 luck

I've emptied my balls constantly to bisko and iowa and 3 luck

Eugen still gets 6 luck because she's lucky I guess. Based blonde aryan semen demons
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>>16194710
Once you get three fleets and can store resources.
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>>16191960
It's always a bit funny and sad when one artist seems to be the only one making any decent fanart for a ship.
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>>16194757
>I've never fapped to goya and hacchan
>I've emptied my balls constantly to bisko
Your taste is fucking shit.

>Based blonde aryan semen demons
More like nazi sluts good only for scrapping.
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>>16194768
I'll fight you for that
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv283669485

submarine dude having trouble beating E-4
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>>16194755
It's a retarded 1/100 chance dealie to oneshot the boss if you bring carriers with only bombers.

So yeah, >wikia
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>>16194755
Just wikia, it's possible to 1HKO CV hime with a single LBAS wave. On paper it's also possible to sink her with torp bombers, but don't count on it.
>>
Should I equip star shell or searchlight for yasen in E5?
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>>16194823
You don't need them. If you insist, put a searchlight on one of your DDs.
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>>16194823
Both.
>>16194825
wha
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How long does it take to clear E5H? I'm trying to figure out when I should just give up on E4H. Farming Asakaze would be nice too to have a day for that.
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>>16194838
>Asakaze
I would say I would know your pain. But I'm farming for Yamakaze and E3 is less painful than either EO map.
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>>16194838
Like one day if you have Sakawa and Eugen. Nagato works too but the additional sub node and accompanying fuel penalty drastically reduced my chances of reaching the boss.
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>>16194838
One day was all it took me.
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>>16194838
I cleared it in about a day-and-a-half (including sleeping time and sparkling time and relevelling planes time), even with some "Go-Back-To-Start-Do-Not-Collect-Your-Chipping-Run" moments. It's not that hard, as long as you have 2-3 of the nuclear ships for silly crits at the boss.

That said, the resource burn is significantly worse since you're running 3 LBAS and double supports and a combined fleet, so you'd better still have something of a stockpile left.
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>>16194846
Not that anon, but I'm running E5 on easy. How fucked am I if I don't have Sakawa and Nagato?
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>>16194855
If you at least have a Prinz at Kai you should do well on easy modo. You can get away with one nuclear fleet ship on easy modo.
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>>16194855
You can probably bring anything and be fine, it's fucking easy difficulty.
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>>16194838
3 S rank at A and perfect defense probably take like 1 1/2 hour.

Then you need another 3-4hours to beat it. It is that easy.
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>>16194845
>>16194846
>>16194848
>>16194853
FINALLY I'M FREE!

I still got 160k/136k/266k/204k/687 on my resources so I'm still good on that. But sounds good, I have all 3 nuke ships so a day it is. Thanks for the info.
>>
Divorce papers when? Now that I got Sara I need to divorce Kaga.
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>>16194866
Just sink your Kaga and raise a new one.
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>>16194332
Historically accurate, air power is superior to capital warships.
>>
Why do people like Bismarck? She's cold and her lines are mediocre at best.
Graf pulls off the 'serious officer' personality a lot better.
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>>16194862
With that much resources and time you can probably take it easy now.
Although I do advise against taking Nagato, she can be a bigger liability than she's worth.
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>>16194879
Same reason Sheryl Nome is the more popular Macross girl.
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>>16194879

>Why do people like Bismarck?

You'll allways find repressed nazis and wehraboos who will throw thenselves at anything that is called german.
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>>16194879
Strongest FBB.
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>>16194879
She's a big Akatsuki. Her arrogance can be cute to some people.
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>>16194888
I like big Akatsuki.
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>>16194879
>her lines are mediocre at best
And recorded with a potato. Almost 2017, and sound quality is still fucking garbage.
>>
With regards to debuffing the boss at E-5, does perfect defense require AS+, or just shooting down all the planes?

I've been using the trip to A node to finish the 50 transport quest and getting no-damage shootdowns vs the 3-wo formation, but only with AS, not AS+.
>>
Every time I want to start leveling Teste I switch her in, hear her voice and see her face, and then switch her out for another girl. What do? I've never experienced something like this before.
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>>16194879
She is very cute, and good at night battle.
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>>16194917

mute the game.
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>>16194901

I believe the testing proved that you need AS+ in order to fulfill the condition. You'll get it eventually.

>Select all images with planes
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>>16194888
Her arrogance is justified

Unlike some outdated CLs
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>>16194925
The captcha knows.
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>>16194925
Yeah, I just got my third & fourth AS+ in the same run I killed the 50th transport.
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>>16194925
Maybe it's:
-for easy, taking no damage is enough to count
-for medium, taking no damage via misses won't count, but shooting down all planes counts
-for hard, you must get AS+ for it to count
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>>16194928
>sank by an obsolescent biplane torp bomber
>justified
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>>16194949
It was a fluke. Nothing happened. Germany won the war.
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So what's the best option E4 transport part?
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>>16194952
What a pretty bote.
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>>16194956
I just cleared it in 6 straight boss runs with 1CL 2CAV 3 DD.
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>>16194952

I wish the germans would have been done by Jiji, that way maybe they'd have avoided becoming walking memes (except Prinz) unlike the italians who, personality-wise, turned out to be a very interesting bunch.
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>>16194956
Kinu, Tone, Chikuma, 3DD
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>>16194965
That's some american tween comicbook style eyes.
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>>16194957
I'm waiting for this, really. It's time for graf to go on holiday
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>>16194339
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>>16194961
>>16194969
Kinu and two DDs full of daihatsus?
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How do you reach node K with STF on E-3? I'm sent through the middle instead of going C-G-K.
Trying to get that armor debuff after a day of brute forcing it normal with no luck.
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>>16194986
Personally I went with just one daihatsu on Kinu, two destroyers loaded with daihatsus and a duck for AA bully. It went well.
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>>16194986
I brought one AACI, used Abukuma with 2 daihatsu+opening torp then packed the other 2 DDs with daihatsu.
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>>16194890
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>>16192724
Strongly recommend running for another one. Having 4 repair cranes is a godsend. E3 is pretty much the best place I've seen for farming her in a while.
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How do you guys deal with post-event burnout? Even sending out expeditions feel like a chore now.
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>>16194057
I'm riding this comfy train til the end.
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>>16195043
just bot, either you'll have unlimited resources or be banned and free of this hell
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>>16194899
I have a feeling a lot of lines in this game were recorded in the VA's homemade studio or something
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>>>/a/150443634
These songs are always so sad.
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>>16194057
Starting in a few hours

How bad is e4 final and what's like the best possible comp for it. I have every ship, upgraded stuff and 5 pages of married boats
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>>16195056
>>>/a/150443672
>>>/a/150444136
At least there's the sanma song.
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>>16195071
The shipgirls are the only thing keeping the fishing industry afloat right now.
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>>16195059
I used these. Sparkle every fucking thing and pray. One torp bomber on Chitose's biggest slot because you won't get AS.
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>>16195043
Just take a break from the game. Nothing good comes of forcing your self during burn out.
>>
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30142293

Kashima strong

>>16195080
Is heavy fleet better or should I try my luck with a light one? Heavy sounds like it has a better chance of getting through the bullynode
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>>16195098
I did heavy, like literally heavy with 2 hotels, Iowa and Haruna. Didn't work out for me due to the huge amount of taiha along the way. Abukuma + KTKM should at least clear up some slack on the Ru node so the only danger (to me) is the pre-boss node.
You can try heavy fleet, but from my experience, I spend more time in port than visiting the boss. Light fleet at least gets me to the boss.
>>
>>16195056
I love the spooky swing they pull off with final boss anthems.
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>>16195098
4 ru flags gives no fucks about the ships in your fleet. Either they roll a crit and you go home or they don't and you move on. Heavy adds another Wo node so I don't think its worth it.
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>>16195112
Which comps did the RTAs do it with again? I know the zuikaku dude probably just stacked 6 megamis and ran through everything
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>>16195122
I haven't watch the RTAs for two events now because their rooms are always full. I just ask for advice here and make my own comp from the recommendations. Also, stacking megamis make everything a hundred times easier.
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>>16194690
Translate it weeb. I can see ugume, but what does it say?
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>>16195152
It says UGUME wrecked his shit.
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>>16195152
t says UGUME cummed inside his ships.
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>>16195171>>16195175
So sign to the left of [UGUME] means "defeat (in PVP)'?
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>>16195183
No the kanji on the left means 'exercise' (PVP).
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Killing transports while unlocking the 2nd starting point on E5 counts towards the 10 transport kills required to debuff the boss, right?
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>>16195203
I didn't kill transports for the starting point, what are you talking about?
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I want to thank all of you for bearing with me whenever I've been at a loss for ideas, I couldn't have pulled this off without your help.

Now to rescue Imoutokaze.
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>>16195205
There's guaranteed 3 transports at node A, which I visited more than 3 times S ranking it. Did killing those already count, or is it like the air base defenses where I have to head back over there again?
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>>16195203
No. KC devs are shit at designing things so it doesn't.
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>>16194980
>only the back
Well this is retarded.
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>>16195152
"UGUME beat you on exercise"
>>16194690
This guy?
https://twitter.com/ugume3732?lang=ja
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>>16195252
Who else would it be? Look at his account name.
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>>16195253
Account name is not unique across server.
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>>16195281
Then why couldn't I get the same account on my alt account as my main account despite being in different servers?
>>
>>16195253
I confess I haven't checked who designed 球磨s.
https://twitter.com/ugume3732/status/802434587318071296?lang=ja

It was nice to get his visit.
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>>16195312
Post it on his twitter.
>>
I hate it when ships go down into yellow damage.
Just enough to fear being crit'd straight to taiha, but not enough to want to spend buckets on them.
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tyjekrgjkrhjtrkl
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>>16195405
Hey we can struggle together
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>>16195405
Hang in there, you'll pull it off eventually.
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Nagato, this isn't even the boss node!
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I love this event. Laughed maniacally for a good minute after witnessing this amazing nuke.
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>>16195421
>Flagship cake

Heh
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>>16189859
This many.
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>>16195447
She's amazing.
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>>16195441
You haven't seen everything until you watch Nagato nuke the boss during the day. >>16194584
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>>16195457
Amazingly lonely for her age

Probably a dildo and vibe expert

Move over for the fresh young JKs
>>
Is FBB, CV, 2DD, CL, and CLT possible for E4 to do short route?
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>>16193920
>>16193989

new translations of the 4koma when?
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>>16195489
Learn Japanese.
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SAKUSEN!
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>>16195496
失敗しました
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>>16195483
No. The limit is two heavy or one heavy + two medium.
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>>16195499
>>
Is there anything good to farm this event?
>>
Anyone have a good farming setup for E2?

I'm only missing Yamakaze and then I can finally start with my EOs.
>>
>>16195514
I think you better do the EOs before you start farming, unless you don't care if you make it in time for Sara.
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>>16195519
I already cleared E5.
>>
>>16195514
I've been doing E2 runs with 2CAV 2 DD dragons and bomber LBAS support, but no luck yet. Pretty big baux sink too, 500~ per run or so.
>>
Nothing like spending 30k resources just debuffing before you even attempt to sortie to the boss. Medium scale my ass; half of these maps were 2 for 1 deals.
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>>16195508
Sorry but this event is shit for farming kamo
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>>16195548
>debuffing
It's your own damn fault.
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>>16195551
What about for Mizuho and Akashi?
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If it weren't for 16inch, Nagato would be chuuha'd by this Wo Kai attack. These guns never stop to impress me.
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Thank you, Sakawa, for killing the boss and in result granting me this cute gnome. You got your time to shine after 1.5 years of inactiveness and sure are using it well!
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>>16195561
>Mizuho and Akashi

Already got my cranes and Mizuho comes with no good gear.
>>
>>16195563
Almost as amazing as the abyssal planes which give armor to ther carriers
>>
>>16194339
I'll never understand why Fujikawa copied Konish's uniform design.
>>
>>16195600
You gotta homogenize ships classes. Otherwise you end up with something like the Kageros.
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>>16194887
>Bismarck
>Strongest FBB
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>>16195622
Iowa is only stronger against installations.
>>
>make it past the stupid ru wall
>get offrouted to empty node
What the fuck, I thought BB/CVL/CLT/CL/2DD was an allowed E-4 formation?
>>
>>16195622
She is. But then she seems to eat damage for some reason.
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>>16195631
LOS check dummy.
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>>16195631
Not enough LoS?
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>>16194949
The torpedo bomber didn't sink her jackass, it just FUBAR'd her rudder, making sure she couldn't escape the beating the Britbong BBs gave her.
>>16194952
Explain why the Nazis don't rule Europe today then.
>>
>>16195642
>>16195646
I had obs seaplane on Iowa, 2 torps 2 greens on Chitose. I saw people posting similar formations so I thought it should be ok. Fuck this LoS faggotry.
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>>16195670
Should be at least 20 using formula 33
>>
Help.
I got S-rank on A node 3 times, plus 2 perfect air defenses. No cutscene of unlocking the 2nd starting point.
What else do I need?
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>>16195705
Did you have superiority on the perfect air defenses? (if there are three wo kais then even if you take no damage then it is probably not superiority, it has to show 制空権確保! at the start of the LBAS assault)
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>>16195699
Fuck I realised why I was an idiot and equipped a night recon on Iowa instead.
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>MFW there are players who think getting memedals is more important than this beauty
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>>16195749
I did every map on hard and got my Cutietoga.
>>
About to start the event so like which map takes the longest to clear in real-time, E4?
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>>16195749
She looks better in black.
>>
>>16195766
If you intend to do it all on hard, then yes, E-4.
>>
Finally decided to debuff E4, cleared it immediately. Too bad for the catapult, I'll get it with some tedious quest chain later.
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>>16195713
Guess I didn't, went back and did it again, perfect air defense and 2nd point opened.
I thought that as long as nobody took a potshot at the base, that was air supremacy. But apparently a plane falling off the screen instead of exploding means it wasn't.
>>
is memedals really tat important?
>>
>>16195623
And at day, armor , HP, natural accuracy, AA, better fit guns.
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>>16195749
You can get both extremely easy this time. Catapult is the problem.
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>>16195799
>debuff E4
>too bad for the catapult
It isn't a debuff, you've just reduced difficulty. Know the difference.
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>>16195881
So true.
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>>16195881
DD hime is wife material.
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>>16195881
Fucking bitch, go to hell.
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>>16195893
That's not DD Hime.
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>>16195623
Iowa is better in the main fleet.
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>>16195881
That can't be DD-hime-she has legs.
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>>16195881
She's so cute evading death!
>>
It seems, debuffing the boss in E-5 makes the entire main fleet take extra damage. I thought it only applied to the boss.
>>
>>16195881
Mine just died from landbase every time. Did I miss out on anything?
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>>16195881
She has smooth moves for a granny.
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>>16195881
Iowa slapped her into oblivion with an APCI on my final run. Felt good as fuck.
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>>16195963
If you thought she was very evasive last Spring event, she is even more in combined fleet.
>>
So is it recommanded to debuff boss in e-5 hard or can i skip it ?
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>>16196002
It's unnecessary.
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>>16196002
It's cheap and easy so why not.
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>>16196002
I'm debuffing while chipping. Air base and node F are easy and P is on the way, which is the hardest part. Half way through the bar and still haven't gotten the second S rank because AACI has a 1% proc rate there. Hell once I shot down 99/100 bombers left and I didn't S rank it, that was some real shit.
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>>16196002
I got most of requirements out of the way from chipping accept the transport kills and getting S ranks at nodes above the second starting point.

Though in the end I didn't need it.
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>>16196040
except*
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>>16196030
It's rng. I got my S while shooting down only ~60-70, as i couldn't do more.
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AHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

I am stucked on this map 5 days, 5 fucking days.

After spending 2 mini Akashi, ~5 goddess, a few personnel, and almost 40 Mamiya + Irako, I killed this impossible boss. S rank and the drop is fastsuck to remind me I cleared it with p2w equipment.

The one that approved this map in the development team should die in his sleep today. Anyone who has blood relation with this guy within 1000 generations shall be enslaved and work until they die. I fucking hate everything right now, is what I want to say, but right now I am just glad this is over.
>>
>>16196252
Be sure to thank the beaver for that one.
>>
>>16196261

How should I thank her?
>>
>>16196252
You are on the wrong side of the luck spectrum.
>>
>>16196268
Semen tribute.
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>>16196288
Internal.
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>>16195021
Is it even possible to own 2 Akashi?
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>>16196392

It is possible. Got my first Akashi 2 years from when I started playing and got my second one this event.
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>>16196392
Obviously, you just cant get her from 2-5 if you have one already.
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>>16195551
I still got her from this event.
>>
>>16196392
I got two of her this event bringing my total Akashi to three.
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>>16196392
I got maybe six so far.
>>
Farming duckgun in E-1H: worth it?
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>>16196505
If you need them, then yes.
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>>16196505
Not really unless you are desperate, its more of a pain in the ass on hard to get those S ranks at the boss node. There is also the J node for Akizuki, but it may be worse.
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>>16196505
If you can consistently S rank the boss, sure.
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>>16196513
>>16196520
It's E-1, of course I can S rank it.

>>16196510
I have seven. Was think to catch two ducks this time.
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>>16196505
Do you actually need more of those? You get 3 pairs from the 3 ducks already, I can't think of a place where having more than 3 pairs would be really useful. If the map is hard you're probably running only one AACI and torp CI on the rest.
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>>16196532
10 for 3-5 south
14 for transport fleet
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>>16196532
They're the best DD guns, and upgradable too, unless I'm missing something.

I'd keep 20 if I could.
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>>16196539
>14 for transport fleet

No, main fleet is supposed to be drum/daihatsu mule.
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>>16196539
AA guns are better for TCF if you don't use drums.
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>>16196539
>>16196540
Meh, I think around 12 6 to maxed out ducky guns is good enough.
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Is Laté any good?
I was planning on going kuso for E-3 cause hard might take more than 7 hours.
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>>16196566
You get two from Frenchie anyway.
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>>16196566
It's a good placebo plane for CAVs, but I doubt you'll need more than 2 at any given time.
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What is the E-5 boss music supposed to be?
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>>16196582
>>16196584
I see, kuso mode then.
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So I'm kinda at a loss here. I retreat on this node 12 times in a row. Finally get through and make it to the boss. Fully sparkled boss support doesn't show up and my fleet chokes at unbelievable speeds and manages to leave 3 ships up in the escort so I don't even nightbattle the boss. So I end up only getting 53 damage worth of chipping out of 13 runs. Should I just swap to easy and kill myself because I feel like I'm making a huge fundamental mistake here that I clearly don't have the brains to see. That or I'm just shit. whichever is fine.
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>>16196566
Hard should take more than 7 straight hours tho. The real problem is E4.
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>>16196644
If you mean how it fits or not, just remember you're basically fighting one of the ultimate outcomes of World War 2.
It's strangely fitting then.
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>>16196656
>Fully sparkled boss support doesn't show up
Bullshit.
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>>16196669
It seems like you've never experienced neverlucky before. It's possible. I've had it happen with node support and boss support.
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Someone please post a fleet which you used to kill E-5 without Sakawa. Mine doesn't work. Also is there an updated BattleInfo? I can't stand watching my shitters fuck up everything anymore, I need to know if I can refresh or not.
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>>16196669

I've this happened to me twice in E3. I would flip my shit if this happened to me in E4.
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>>16196669
You have around 90% of it triggering, that 10% of it not triggering can happen and will eventually happen the more you use it.
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>>16196682
>I've had it happen with node support and boss support
Node support not appearing is more common. Boss have like 90% or more, so isn't infallible.
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>>16196686
2x LBAS to the boss node. They do ridiculous damage to the himes in my experience.
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>>16196705
Won't they just get shot down every time you reach it? I really don't have enough time to rank them after every run.
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>>16196657
Yah, I wanted to rush that one cause I need E-4 flight deck, and memedal if I've time.
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>>16196686
Here you go.

>>16196709
No. I just sent Taitei+3 Land Bombers and they barely take any losses despite having no fighter escort.
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>>16196709

18 planes per slots have made then a lot more resilient. Most planes I lost in a single slot were 10.
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>>16196710
You can't go kuso in E3 and then hard in E4, you double Kuso.
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>>16195699
I managed with 19.82 but I saw someone with 20.26 who got offrouted. Seems like even the 33 formula isn't perfect.
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>>16195940
It never applies to boss alone.
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>>16196717
>>16196711
I'll give it a try.
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When your usual source for BGM puts a pic of NOT-KAGA despite her not being the boss of that map yet it kinda feels fitting thanks to how ball crushing was E-4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvkVxMoGOM
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>>16196686
KCV just got updated yesterday.
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>>16196566
>hard might take more than 7 hours.

What? I cleared it in 1 maybe 2. Don't waste your time doing that stupid debuff.
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So what happens to the ships that you send to E-5 hard when you switch back to medium? You can't use your ship in medium because it has the orange tag(E-5 medium requires green tag) or they just don't care and you can use them?
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E5 O node can go fuck itself
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>>16196749
You get banned if you do that.
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>>16196749
I think the tags stay and you can only use them in E5.
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>>16196753
Stop using Fagato and switch to superior Iowa.
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>>16196719
>>16196744
For a moment you gave me the motivation, but then I checked the rewards again and meh.
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>>16196769
I have no fast CVLs left so I'd have to do 2CV2CAV or something in main fleet
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>do 5-1 quest
>A-C-E-G
>3 times in a row
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>>16196760

Yea the tags obviously stayed, but can you use them in E-5 medium though? The tag for E-5 medium is green instead of orange.
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>>16196776
No reason why you can't.
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This yasen combined fleet makes no fucking sense. Not that I can complain, just feels weird when I remember some people getting escort fleet despite it having only one ship alive.
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>>16196782
The locks being different seems reason enough to me. I wouldn't blindly assume the devs bothered to script the E5H lock to work with E5M.
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>>16196790
If they didn't I'd think there'd already be complaints by now.
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>>16196709
Land base bullshit is finally fixed this event.

>>16196717
Bigger slot didn't do shit (see summer event), it's just that mechanics stopped being awful. Another bug that got fixed was that previously first slot always suffered huge losses compared to other three which is no longer the case.
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>>16196749
Try it and tell us.
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no one is sinking their ships so this'll have to do for now
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Is it just me or are the calculations for the transport phase in E1 wrong this time around
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>>16196847
I don't get it
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>A-C-E-G for the 5th time in a row
FUCKING 5-1 QUEST REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>16196773
You can use 1fBB 4CV you know.
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>>16196863
dumb frogposter
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>>16196856
Are you forgetting to do x0.7 for A-ranks?
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>>16196749
>>E-5 medium requires green tag

No, It does not.
乙 and 丙 accept any tag.
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>>16196873
B-but it's supposed to be Nagato's turn to shine
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>>16196904
Use Big 7 + CarDiv1 + Hiyous.
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>>16196899
I'm using the kcv plugin. Is it normal to get around 50ish for a-ranks? cl 4dd cav here
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>>16196917
Wouldn't CVB be better than CVL?
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>>16196900

Really? Thanks a lot.
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>>16196929
Aren't you limited to 4 (BB+CV)? But CVB indeed is better than CV or CVL and you can use CA(V) instead of Mutsu.
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>>16196856
Super daihatsus give the same TP as regular daihatsu now, no clue how long they've been like that but the wiki isn't correct anymore.
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>>16196951
Oh dang

But what's the point with that really. Kadokawa games please
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>千歳甲 = Chitose A
>朝潮改二丁 = Asashio Kai Ni D
>霞改二乙 = Kasumi Kai Ni B
>瑞鶴改二甲 = Zuikaku Kai Ni A

>装甲空母 = CVB
Explain this, wikiafags.
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>>16196994
Goddammit
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>>16196920
I used 6 drums, 3 daihatsu and got around 55 per A rank, yes. (CVL instead of CAV though).
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>>16197016
I'm bringing mogamin to deal with the DDs at the boss reliably I guess

By the way, is E2 best done with dragons and should I use route support? That wo node looks pretty rough
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>>16196994

Why should I?
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>>16196942
Only when you're going to A. When you're going from second base to boss node you're limited to 5(BB+CV)
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>>16196994
Wasn't it because they were "used to it"? They even had a poll and everything to change it but said fuck it and kept the CVB meme.
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>>16196392
I own 5 at the same time, keeps dropping when I farm for new drops and I can't bring myself to scrap her.
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>>16197029
E2 with dragons is easy. The Wo are just 80 armor basic flagship type.
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>>16197053
They should give sanshiki bonus to dazzle already. It'd be fun if we could choose between shitty guns+AP versus good guns+sanshiki when the need arose.
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>>16197065
This is creepy
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>>16197067
Boss support is necessary though, right?
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>>16197082
>sanshiki effect stacks in the next event
>the boss has antizuki-level armor so you HAVE to use dazzle
No thanks.
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>>16197087
Yes.
>>
Fire and flooding effects with damage over time fucking when?
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>>16197065
How can Haruna teach Iowa to read if she doesn't know how to either?
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>6 times in a row
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>>16197082
No need, just add 試製35.6cm三連装砲(ダズル迷彩) into the game.
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>>16197039
Fuck. Time for Graf.
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>>16197136
Fucking Graf, she's the only ship I care about farming now and she hasn't dropped since her origianl event
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>>16194756
Pic related.

I actually just got Hiryu this morning, but she's still level 1. I also have Shoukaku and Kaga in their 20's
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>>16197146
I still don't have Graf or Mizuho or Hayasui.
The first two are getting increasingly annoying, what with need for carriers constantly increasing and both Akitsushima and that french AV being unable to carry mini-subs.
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>>16197087
I cleared it without any kind of support, is an easy map.
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Just keep using CVB, laugh at then trying to make everything "correct", ignore then, rinse and repeat
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>>16197172
I didn't have Mizuho either, but she dropped on a relatively easy node last event so I got her then
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>>16197172
It was annoying but I'm glad I got Mizuho out of the way back in Summer.
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>>16197146
apparently she dropped in spring but only from e-6 boss on hard.

>>16197149
level 1 should be fine for easy
>>
Is it worth it to farm more Prinzes?
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>>16197214
You missed your chance last event.
>>
Armoured aCVA甲+
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>>16197214
Not really, the last event though was.
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>>16197234

>Armoured aCVA甲+ DELUXE

Improved that for you my friend.
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>>16197249
>Armoured aCVA甲+ DELUXE SUPER
Better.
>>
Repu
>>
>>16197255

>Armoured aCVA甲+ DELUXE SUPER Mark XII
>>
>>16197264
Le風
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>>16196789
As far as I could tell as long as escort flag was sunk you got to fight main fleet in yasen
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>>16197270
>Armoured aCVA甲+ DELUXE SUPER Mark XII ~Skycancer Supreme~
Soon we'll reach "LN titles" level of retardation
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Fuck my VN, this is way more entertaining.
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>>16197338
You like reruns that much?
>>
>>16197356

It never gets old, just like Michael Jackson's Thriller
>>
Let's wait and see what class the devs are giving to Shinano. For now CVB is fine.
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>>16197065
Cute.
>>
>>16197412

It wouldn't matter, really. Since the classification system we use in the west has little to do with the japanese system.

In short, it's just a bunch of shitposters that allways do the same and are basically igored by the regulars of this thread.

But since we are in the middle of an event, you and other newfags are falling for it.
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I already had one few months ago. I guess the game is telling me to keep her this time.
>>
This thread is now in "Endless debate" mode
Load your kotodamas
>>
Samidare is my wife and I love her.
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Sara is good for ___.
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>>16197486
VOLLEYBALL!
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>>16197486
dates
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How many bossses did Beaver kill for you this event?
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>>16197495
I didn't use Beaver.
>>
>>16197495
2
>>
>>16197486
loving

>>16197495
0, didn't need to leave it to beaver this time.
>>
>>16197471
I want to rape her bug-eyed face
>>
>>16197495
0. Her total kill count is also 0 because I don't use her.
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>>16197495
0. I think is the first event that I don't leave it to beaver.
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is this the best 3-5 south composition now?

>>16197495
just 1
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>>16197525
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Translate it, gooks.
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I'm at E-5E LD, what can I change? I'm having trouble with it, even with sending boss support expedition. I can't send LBAS because I don't have planes with the needed range.
>harunafag
I'm not.
>hurr kuso durr
I've farmed Pudding until I lacked the buckets to clear on anything besides kuso mode. I'm on 0 buckets now.
>>
>>16197525
>south
>>
>>16197550
>fubuki and shimakaze AACI

If you really were farming Pudding you should've already been killing boss.
>>
>>16197531
No it's 1CL 5DD like it's always been.
>>
>>16197531
Once you get them to Kai, yes.
>>
>>16197531
I don't get it, outside of those barrels, what good is Hayasui?
>>
>>16197570
Murata.
>>
>>16197561
Only Bucky is AACI because I don't have enough Akiguns for Shimakaze. And I had 0 problems killing the boss normally, but LD just rapes me. But I might change one of them for Beaver, she's only level 66 though.
>>
>>16197495

One, and the most crucial one - E4 final kill.

Actually it was a very lucky strike (out of 5 days of miserable run), she was sink during yasen before her turn to strike, so when she was revive by the goddess, she got full hp and full ammo. Other than that, she also aim directly at the boss instead of the leftover Wo below the boss.
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>>16197541
Please help. I want to do E5.
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>>16197550
Fix your planes and yasen order and maybe try to debuff the map.

Also, you don't have yasen equips? Level your Sendai, you kuso.
>>
Whose bright idea was it to put Yama only on boss nodes but give us Asa on a bunch of nodes?
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>>16197584

Strangely enough I've got Yamakaze but no Asakaze in sight.
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>>16197541
I have it fully in English. It just asks you whether you want to send data like ship drops to the database.

If yes, click the left option. If no, click the right option.
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>>16197581
I, uh, kinda forgot I had yasen equipment. How do I fix plane and yasen order? For the planes, I just went from smallest slot to the biggest because I don't know better. I was thinking about making a Reppuu mule as FS, but I wasn't sure if it's worth with this many green planes. Should I move KTKM-sama to the last slot? I had her there before but I noticed that the enemy often taiha'd the last slot so I put Chokekai there. Also I haven't found good articles about yasen, are there any? The one in the combat section in the wikia is pretty short.
And for the debuff, I already did it, although I don't feel much of a difference.
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>>16197574
swap maya and haruna
replace fuckbuki with beaver
where's your nagato?
send land bombers to the boss
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>>16197617
Do you use korean fork? If yes, how did you translate this?
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>>16197550

>Fubuki level 97
>Highest level of BB in image is level 90

ok
>>
>>16197642
It's Korean fork, and it's been fully translated for me for ages now.

I think it might be in the language settings?
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>>16197637
>where's your nagato?
At level 1 because I got my first Nagato like 4 runs ago. Is it worth going over the sub node just for using her?
>send land bombers to the boss
Don't have the range nor planes that give more range.
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>>16197639
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>>16197550
KTKM with DA setup.
Put Sakawa at the bottom, not top. I'd go Choukai/Maya/Fubuki/Shimakaze/Kitakami/Sakawa.
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>>16197634
>How do I fix plane and yasen order?
Put your bombers in the first and second slots, they get a bonus damage. Also, use a calculator to pack the maximum number of TBs.

For yasen, put your heavy hitters at the end, so 5th should be KTKM and 6th Sakawa. Also put a DD with a searchlight in the 2nd place.

Good luck, TTK.
>>
>>16193187
Its gameplay is less free to win, and generally a worse version of this one's.
>>
>>16197486
McDonalds.
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>>16197653
Can you screenshot your language settings?
Normally I use the method posted by other anon and copy .dll files which make some of the tabs translated with settings like this: http://i.imgur.com/ydIoaoL.png
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>>16197820
.xml files*
>>
>No pictures of Yura reacting to a dauntless.
Sad since she mentions them in her profile. We got Shouhou reacting to the dauntless though.
>>
Just got to E-2. Never done LBAS before. The recommended comp seems to include flying boats and fighters going to the boss, but throwing a pair of reppus and 0M52's on my dragons is enough to already hit the AS needed. Should I be doing anything differently?
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>>16198206
When in doubt, follow the recommended comp. It's recommended for a reason.
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>>16198233
Should've been more clear. I don't have flying boats (or LBAS other than the fighter I got from E1E). Not sure how I should proceed.
>>
When are we getting a fifth fleet?
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>>16198244
If you have no flying boats or land bombers, the choice is easy since your LBAS can't reach the boss. Soften up enroute nodes.

LBAS 1 should be all fighters if you want to counter a bombardment node. Otherwise, it should be a mix of fighters and bombers to kill shit on regular nodes.

LBAS 2 should be set to air defense, and should be all interceptors and fighters.
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>>16197634
There's not much to know about yasen. All you need to know is the order goes from top to bottom. There are two schools of thought: put the hard hitters first so that they don't taiha, or put the hard hitters last so that they don't hit the damage sponges.

Yasen plane increases damage. Flares increase accuracy (and decrease enemy crit chance). They're not perfect, but anything that improves your chances are welcome.

I'd put 2 red guns on KTKM. In my experience, she can oneshot pretty much everything on the boss in yasen without cutins.

Move Maya to the main fleet, and a BB to the escort. She's useless in yasen with that setup, and there's no AACI in yasen.

Nagato gets damage bonus. She can literally oneshot everyone in the boss node in daytime. That alone is worth the extra enroute node. Whether that's worth speed leveling over the next few days is up to you.
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>>16198883
I put the second hardest hitter on top to get the best of both worlds. Depending on the boss formation I also put the 3rd, 4th etc (eg. boss + 2 BB hime). Then I arrange the rest in ascending order of strength, with my strongest hitter as the anchor.
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