Kantai Collection ~KanColle~

>>16174520
Thanks.

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>>16174520
First image for this thread

Why are drops so bad? Why does everyone roll over and take it? Why can't we build over half the useless ships in this game, let alone the good ones? It's fucking frustrating and I get the feeling Kadokawa doesn't give a shit what happens to this terrible game. Legit complaints get met with elitism, passiveness and ignorance by both devs and fans.

>debuffs still not updated
Use this next time.

Debuffs exist for the E3 boss, for the E5 map, and for the E5 boss. Debuffing the E5 map will open a new starting point closer to the boss. Debuffing the bosses lowers their armour, making them easier to kill. How to debuff (current speculation):
-To debuff the E3 boss: acquire in E2 a perfect air defence against the two air raids twice each, and perfect S at air raid nodes A, G, K and L once each, and in E3 acquire S ranks at nodes C, D, H and J once each, and A rank at node K once.
-To debuff the E5 map: acquire in E5 S ranks at node A thrice for Kou (hard)/twice for Otsu (medium)/once for Hei (easy) modes, and at nodes C, G and H once each, and a perfect air defence against each of the two air raids once each.
-To debuff the E5 boss: acquire in E5 S ranks at node P twice and at nodes K, M, N, O and U once each, a perfect air defence against an air raid four more times, and sink 10 enemy transport ships total in nodes A and F.
-For Hei (easy) mode, land bases taking 0 damage (including misses) is sufficient to count as perfect air defence. For other difficulty levels, all enemy planes need to be shot down to count as perfect air defence, which can be achieved with AS+ or (sometimes) AS.

For the E5 map debuff, a cutscene will play revealing the second starting point.
For the boss debuffs, if you hear the quest completion jingle when you return to base after a sortie, it means the debuff is successful. You only get to hear it once per successful debuff. While the E3 and E5 boss debuffs are active, the bosses will have different sprites and voice lines on encounter.
WARNING: For E5, debuffs will reset if switching difficulties, unless if switching from Otsu (medium) to Hei (easy) or vice versa.

>>16174581
>>16174520

six minutes more for SB2U

inb4 hellcat

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OMFG

>>16174622
wtf is that, super saiun?

>>16174624
Proto keiun

>>16174567
>Why does everyone roll over and take it?
Because it's not gacha.

>>16174567
Because drop of 2016 sum was so good

>>16174624
Keiun, Reppuu Kai and a landbase for top 100, very nice

>>16174581
>perfect air defence against the two air raids twice each
can you clarify the language in this?

>>16174622
Jets never

>>16174634
You have to get 2 perfect defences against each of the two air raids. What is there to clarify?

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Look what the cat dragged in

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>>16174622

>Doesn't censors his name
>pic in spanish

As another native spanish speaker I feel doubly disgusted. If that reward makes you happy, I also got it for top 500. Got me a Reppu Kai too.

Ahora vete a tomar por culo crio de mierda.

>>16174631
My setup was Base1 Hien 1D, Hien 1D, Hien, Saiun
Base2 Raiden, Hien, Reppu, Saiun
All double chevron
about 20-30 sorties, only got a white text defense once, still got damaged on the second wave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG-OR8rdPpE

>>16174645
Reppuu

>>16174669

Reppū

>>16174670
烈風

>>16174675
>>16174669

>>16174675
Lièfēng

Wo says, levels don't matter, except when they do.

Does getting Keiun now mean jets Soon™?

Baby 1st rank rewards its Reppuu kai and Keiun, seems so underwhelming.

Isnt keiun just a better version of T2 recon with FP+ for armored CV ?

>>16174700
>a better version of T2

Lol, I wish. It's got +2 accuracy meaning subpar opening strike bonus damage. Gotta see how much it increases contact chance though.

>>16174699
K-ON collab.

>>16174707
Also 11 los maybe its better for LBAS than Saiun

>>16174711
According to wikiwiki it's only as good as saiun.

>>16174712
Meh so for what purpose ?

-Only usable by armored CV
-1 less acc compared too T2 recon
-Same performance as saiun in LBAS

If I did chipping find in E-4 hard (always S ranked), how hard would it be for normal? I'd consider one catapult club this time since my works irl are also needed to be cleared.

>>16174719
Higher contact chance.

>>16174719
https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=R2Y2_Keiun-KAI_V1

Toilet paper blueprint hypothetical plane.

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>>16174719

I wish it would at least give a good chance of contact even with AP or AD, like how these fuckers manage to get contact even with only +6 LoS in those conditions.

Top 5 getting duplex radar,isnt this thing only good for support exped ?

What seems to be doing better for E4? Longer route with a heavier fleet or shorter route with a lighter fleet?

/jp/ please give me your magic.

>>16174771
light fleet for chipping, heavy for last dance

Just out of curiosity, but is there a way to rank without hemorrhaging buckets?

>>16174699
Jets, maybe USN plane upgrades too. Something has to be slightly stronger than Reppuu kai or else common players start being upset

>>16174795
1-5

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>>16174743

So I went ahead and did some quick test about Keiun. Maybe it can indeed give a good chance for contact even without AS.

>>16174795
>without hemorrhaging buckets
its not really bucket draining if you only aim for top 500 and not playing in new hashirajama server.

>>16174804
1-5 is too slow

>>16174817
Well sure as hell he can't wait for subs to repair... or can he? Haven't ranked in a while.

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>Final kill Sakawa drop after dragging that fatass Nagato through nuke subs dozens of time
Fuck you game.

>>16174795
Goya and friends

Anyone have the image of how real life T advantage and T disadvantage work, and how in-game T advantage and T disadvantage work?

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IOWA MOST VOLLEYBALL ? LILY SEX!!!

http://ameblo.jp/figma/entry-12222735382.html

>>16174817
Some quick math: if you need 1000 senka on top of the EO bonus, that's over 16 sorties each day for 30 days.

That requires buckets, yeah.

>>16174567
I just don't see why drop rates have to be so low. you have to farm these bullshit nodes on maps that only exist for a few weeks a year and get a 1% or less chance of getting the ship you want.

>>16174856
1% drop rates for new ships don't really happen anymore.

>>16174858
I've been trying to get hayasui for 3 events now. hagikaze is .331% according to poi statistics. why is common crap like nachi and kako even in the drop table? it's a special event so drops should be like a candy bucket at halloween.

>>16174567
>Why are drops so bad?
Are you serious? Kancolle has amazing drop rates. Have you ever played any other asian game ever? Some of them have drop rates like 1 in 100000 or even worse. Especially korean games.
Stuff like 1-5% is normally reserved for common drops.

EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>16174881
大丈夫？

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>>16174881
Fug

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>>16174885

>>16174885
>four nukes
>Ancient Hime still alive
Impressive.

>>16174897
And it was green T at that.

I can't believe how many times that fucking hime survived.

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Finally.

Fucking Christ.

>>16174935
What can you even farm there? Asakaze?

>>16174945
Fumo

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Literally 20 runs like this one since unlocking last kill. WTF is happening.

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>>16174951

>>16174951
This must mean US planes upgrade soon.

>>16174965
Seems legit

>>16174961

It's barely about Maya. It's usually one of the carriers which I cannot said back without losing AS at the boss or double taiha. This time it was Maya. But yeah, fuck it, gonna equip that shit and whoever is left behind is left behind.

>>16174945
Oyashio (got her there), Asakaze (no luck)
Prinz Eugen, Pola
Maruyu, Akitsu Maru

So comparing Korean KCV's BattleInfo and EO's Battle Previewer, which one breaks less often against enemy combined fleet?

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Who made this. Fuck

Anyone else notice how every time Commandant Teste's VA switches from French to Japanese and vice versa, there's a pause?

>>16174995
EO battle previewer never work for me when it come to combined fleet.

>>16175038
If my French were this bad, I'd also need a pause to unfuck my tongue.

>>16175050
C'est vrai

>>16175044
Which one? The original Japanese build?

>>16175038
She makes pauses even when she isn't switching. She sounds like a mentally challenged, not like a foreigner.

How easy is E4 normal when compared to hard?

>>16175038
In case you haven't noticed she is very mechanical sounding. She makes a slight pause pretty much between each syllable.

>>16175065
Translated one. Does combined fleet battle previewer work in the original build?

>full sparkle taiha at preboss node
>get destroyed at first node
Fucking E-4.

>>16175095
Very.

(Fuck if I know, I never touched anything other than the hardest mode.)

>>16175112
You're the lucky one, I'm not.

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I'm running a full sub fleet for E-4 hard HP chipping (as suggested in the previous thread), and it's pretty comfy. You only need to run Boss support, and the only threat are the two DD's in S node, of which one dies to opening torps at the very least.

Shioi & one other sub are gimped, though, since they have to carry seaplanes for LOS.

Opening TCI by Ro, Goya brought her down later to 21 hp.

>>16175107
Are you using v2.5.0? Came out just 3 days ago.

>>16175118
Forgot to mention they're all Lvl 99; the hard part is waiting for morale to go back up, since a D rank is unavoidable at the sub node & the S ranks at the air raid node only partially offset this.

Cheap on buckets, too.

>>16175095
>2 ru instead of 4
>278FP needed instead of 518 for AS
>easier air nodes
>two tsu instead two tsu elites for heavy fleet
Just take a guess.

>>16175118
Would you consider this to be a reliable setup? I'm seriously considering this if it works on chipping.

>>16175118
Wish I had dupe subs.

>>16175118
Dude. You are doing pre final. It is going to be just as easy with a normal fleet. Don't waste your time with a sub fleet unless you have tons of time to kill.
You see those shitty 84HP carriers? They suddenly become super wo kai with 160HP and it isn't the only thing change. The 2 harmless air raid nodes suddenly carry better planes and do more damage as well.

>>16175126
>do E4 normal
>piss easy gauge reduction
>last dance
>cockblocks everywhere
I can only imagine what hell hard must be.

>>16175139
You don't have dupe subs?

>>16175142
>air raid nodes
>doing anything against subs

>>16175144
I don't keep dupes at all.

>>16175142
>Don't waste your time with a sub fleet
Maybe he needs to save resources.

>>16175148
I don't understand the logic of people who refuse to keep dupes.

>>16175070
It would be hilarious if it had to do with her being sunk and raised and sunk again.

>>16175123
Didn't see a new version. Does this version tell me which girl drop after battle?

>>16175142
That's the point--I don't have to waste time sparkling route support. I'm saving that and the rest of the heartache for final.

As it is, my light fleet only gets to the boss 1/3 of the time, and that's a lot of route support sparkle that gets wasted. At least with this sub fleet, I only have to sparkle Warspite for boss support.

>>16174567
You don't know bad drip rates or gatcha.

>>16175153
I don't understand the logic of people who decided to keep dupes.

>>16175160
>Does this version tell me which girl drop after battle?
Doesn't it already do that?

>>16175142
>It is going to be just as easy with a normal fleet.
That's bullshit though. It's much easier than last dance obviously, but unless you can reach the boss near 100% of the time with a normal fleet it's not "just as easy". With 4 Ru I certainly can't make it there as easily.

>>16175153
You don't see copies of people anywhere.

>>16175173
Ship locking, and rotation. The latter being especially important for Orel.

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>>16175174
If it does then I can't find it.

>>16175184
I guess I remembered wrong. Oh well.

Anyway, how well does EO now fare against combined fleet? KR KCV does fine until you send land based aerial support to a node with enemy combined fleet, after which it breaks until you close and reopen it.

How do I sink E-4 boss FS for last dance?

>>16175180
>ship locking
Just manage your girls better. I used only 56 shiplocks in this event and I could easily cut it by 10, if I didn't rush/experimented with some of them. That's far from even half of all my kanmusus.

>important for Orel
I don't want to argue, because I don't like to Orel when I don't need it, but usually I'm fine with using only 7 subs.

>>16175206
>Just manage your girls better.
I can't be assed to, I have other shit to do too. Why waste time and energy thinking when you don't have to.

Has anyone dropped from E4H to E4M? How much easier was it?

>>16175184
It is at the very bottom left side of the window.

>>16175230
I didn't, so I wouldn't know.

>>16175230
I will never touch kuso but looking at composition it seems disgustingly easy.

>>16175179
And there would be no problem even if I did.

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>>16175192
It's working now.
>>16175233
Still can't see it.

>Taiha Ru just one shot my ABKM on Green T

Very interesting

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>>16175259
The very bottom left of the whole window.

>>16175263
If only you used memesubs you wouldn't have to deal with that.

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God dammit beaver.

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>Reppuu Kai again
>not even top 5 reward anymore
What did they mean by this?

>>16175290
That it's the age of aviation (USN).

>>16175259
Check the status bar or Log tab after the battle.

>waste all boss support sparkle because fully sparkled fleet keeps getting taiha
This is getting ridiculous.

>>16175290

The Jets are coming and the new fodder plane is Reppuu Kai.

>>16175297
I wish shooting down enemy planes at the air nodes actually did something. We get cumulative plane losses over a single sortie but the boss doesn't? Yeesh.

>>16175259
It's common knowledge that KR KCV has no problem with E4. The problem is with E5.

How does EO fare with E5?

>>16175290
It was never a top 5 ranking reward. It was top 20 last April and this July it was also top 500.

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>>16175304
I have no idea how many time I've sparkled the main fleet now and only reach the boss once. What's with my luck?

>>16175290
Seems power creeped

-Reppuu kai 12 AA no misc stats

-Max upgrade Type 0 Fighter Model 52 (Skilled) 11 AA 2 evade 1 acc

-Re.2005 Kai 1 FP 11 AA 3 evade

-Reppuu (601 Air Group) if you abuse the quest & upgrade 13/11 AA 2 evade 1 acc

-Type 0 Fighter Model 53 (Iwamoto Squadron) obvious

>>16175312

I was 3 days at it anon. Just put some movie on the sides while you sparkle.

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>>16175335
Lets both do our best then.

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>>16175312
I am waiting for you at the 8-1 club.

>>16175332
Damn, seagull fairy got the short end of the stick.

>>16175342
>all of those resources
>medals
>repair fairies
>give up anyway
Sasuga stockpile faggots.

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>>16175342
>8-1 club
Weak.

>>16175312
Go watch some stand-up comedy, makes the sparkling less boring.

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>>16175312
I believe in you. I posted >>16175304 and right after that, during my last run for the night, it all came together perfectly. I even got a bonus Asakaze for my efforts.

Don't give up.

https://exhentai.org/g/1000833/0159cf236c/

FUCK YES. I'M FINALLY FREE OF E4.

ASAKAZE HERE I COME.

>>16175400
My fleet is nearly identical to yours so this greatly fills me with determination.

Can you also post your equipment loadout?

>>16175417
>>16175400
Shit niggas you guys are making me believe that beating E4 is possible.

Time to 頑張ります

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What fleet should I use for E-4N LD?

>acquire in E5 S ranks at node A thrice for Kou (hard), and at nodes B, C, D, G and H once each, and AS+ and no damage taken to land bases while defending against an air raid twice.
So I have to do this to unlock the secret starting point, right?

How bad is E-5 without secret starting point compare to E-4?

>>16175439
>E-4N
lol who cares

>>16175442
>How bad is E-5 without secret starting point compare to E-4?
The only way to do it without new starting point is Quicksucc, and that isn't worth doing.

>>16175442
>E-5 without secret starting point
Impossible without megamis + hayasui.

>>16175442
Unlocking the secret point is easy though.

>>16175439
>Harunafags

>>16175452
I'm not even a Harunafag, but she was my first BB so I used her more and has the highest level.

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>>16175450
Gaining AS+ with no damage to land bases twice might be a bit hard for me since I don't have a lot of good planes.

Is this fleet fine for unlocking the point?

>>16175492
There's people doing it with graf and ganaha.

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yamakaze is useless right? i can scrap her?

>>16175526
You need her to collect all the kantai.

>>16175526
She's just another shitgure and I'd like to tell you to scrap her because I despise ichishit, but keep one for possible quests or unique branching rules. Just abuse her a lot, it's even funnier this way.

>>16175526
She's useful for punching her dumb face!

E4 - H

Air defense or line ahead formation?

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>>16175533
>>16175539
Wow, rude.

>>16175555
kek agrees

This E-5 boss theme can't beat Shizume Shizume.

>>16175576
Nothing can. Too bad they wasted such awesome theme on one of the easiest event ever.

>>16175579
The non-vocal track was amazing as well. Chill runs down my spine every time it reaches the violin.

>>16175591
>tfw started two weeks before AL/MI and needed to put everything on Hoppou to rescue Ooyodo
Not being able to hear MI BGM in action is one of my two greatest regrets in kancolle.

>>16175603
The best part about MI was how it syncs with the air nodes.

Is it possible to get perfect air raid defence on E-5 if the best i have are 2 Reppuu, 2 Shiden kai, 1 basic Hien, a dosen 52's and 32's but not named ones(yes, kuso mode)?

When will they introduce support fleet locking

>>16175612
After they limit tha amount of sorties you can do per day for free.

Yamakaze really needs to get raped. She's just asking for it with that autism.

>>16175418

Akizuki (97):
10cm HA + AAFD (7*)
10cm HA + AAFD (9*)
T13 Kai (1*)

Italia (99):
381mm/50 Kai (6*)
35.6cm Prototype Triple (10*)
T91 AP Shell (10*)
T0 Observation Seaplane (0*)

Kirishima (120):
16inch Triple Gun (0*)
35.6cm Twin Gun (10*)
T91 AP Shell (10*)
T0 Observation Seaplane (0*)

Chitose (89-90):
Tenzan Model 12 (Murata) [24]
Reppuu [16]
Reppuu [11]
Saiun [8]

Akagi (97):
Re.2005 Kai [20]
Reppuu (601) [20] (0*)
Tenzan Model 12 (Tomonaga) [32]
Reppuu [10]

Kaga (123):
T0 Model 53 (Iwamoto) [20] (5*)
Fw190T Kai [20]
Tenzan Model 12 (Murata) [46]
Reppuu [12]

There were a lot of little optimisations I missed out on:

1. I had another 35.6cm Prototype Triple that I could've equipped on Kirishima, but I was only intending to give this set-up several trial runs to see how it went (it was surprisingly successful up until this point). TFW no Iowa.

2. I had a (1*) T0 Observation Seaplane that, again, could have been equipped on either FBB.

3. I forgot about the Night Scout Seaplane because I'm an imbecile, although having T0 Obs. might've helped to trigger more cut-ins during the day battles.

4. Murata and Tomonaga squadrons should've switched slots between Akagi and Chitose due to better slot size for +1 torpedo power (Murata).

Other miscellaneous bullshit:

-This set-up only just barely gets you AS at the boss node, assuming that you don't lose too many fighters and bombers at the air battle and Wo-Kai nodes. I started out with about 568 fighter power, and ended up at the boss with around 522 fighter power (if I recall correctly), just 4 points above the required amount (518?) for AS.

-Tsus may or may not nuke your slots. I only ever lost 1 rank or so on my bombers, but your mileage may vary.

-Chitose originally had another Reppuu equipped, but I swapped that out for a Saiun after getting ruined by a Red T at the boss.

-This is still pretty risky, since your CV(L)s are effectively useless during the shelling phase if they hit chuuha / the orange. Armoured CVs are a better choice, but I already had Akagi/Kaga locked into E-4, and didn't want to risk locking even more carriers to E-4 only to fail miserably.

-Chitose and Kaga had damecons too, although I never actually used them (I forgot about them most of the time, and they were only really there in case of sudden taiha at the pre-boss air battle node).

-More importantly, you only have 3 ships capable of night battles, none of which are particularly optimised for NB calculations.

-That said, I still think that a proper AACI ship is critical to your fleet's survival all the way to the boss node. That means either an Akizuki-class DD, or Maya. The air battle nodes and opening air strikes on certain nodes are problematic without either of them. You could get away with a less effective set-up on another ship, but as always, your mileage may vary. (Said the guy who attempted AACI on Yamato with Maya equipment.)

-Additionally, 2 FBBs is about enough to cut a swathe through most of the nodes during day battles, and your CV(L)s aren't as useless as in a fully-heavy set-up as long as their slots don't end up getting completely wiped.

-But I still can't shake the feeling that I got very lucky here. Virtually no damage taken other than scratch all the way up until the boss node, less Kirishima getting hit into the yellow at the Wo-Kai node. Perfect S at the Ru node. Akizuki cutting in during every air phase of every battle that had one, including air battle nodes. Green T at the boss, for maximum overkill. FBBs shitting all over the Wo-Kais as soon as they could. Akagi and Kaga nuking the boss at the end of the day fight for 250+ damage in total, although she was the only thing left alive for them to hit by that point and the Green T probably helped with the ridiculous critical hits.

-Not that I'm complaining.

-Obviously, everything was sparkled and both supports were used.

I ran several different set-ups before getting this lucky kill, so I'm happy to answer any other questions you might have.

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>>16175622
This is why you're a kuso.

>>16175630
You're telling me you wouldn't stick it in her as she begs you to stop and them cum inside while she pleads to you that it isn't a safe day? And from thereon her days are filled with her going on endless expedition duties only for her sweaty body to get raped immediately when she returns?

>>16175626
Based, thanks a lot!

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>>16175638
Stop your perverted ways and repent!

God, Shanfeng is so fucking adorable.

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>>16175654
She sure is.

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Thank you based beaver.

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>>16175638
I will chop your head off motherfucker !

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Built for tender bullying.

>>16175638
I'd rather abuse her verbally for hours.

>>16175679
I want to tie her up so she can't move and jam some vibrators and dildos into her for a few hours like that one as109 gallery (you know the one).

>>16175638
I'm not okay with this

>>16175679
God damn, earbuds does it for me every time.

>>16175638
Only a kuso would do that. I would make sure for it to be consensual, and take responsibility if it isn't a safe day.

>>16175658
>乙
lol

>>16175746
I just noticed that, but why?

>>16175765
>shitgure
>haruna
Clearing E4 at all is quite a feat for these people.

>>16175639

Forgot to add. For what it's worth, and if anyone's considering using what I posted here:
>>16175626

Regarding support expeditions (2 DD 2 BB 2 CV):

My stronger support fleet was dedicated to the non-boss expedition, given the things you encounter en route. My relatively weaker boss support did alright during the pre-LD formation, but was pretty weak (from what I could tell) during LD, especially against the tougher ships that show up during LD (assuming they got hit). Still, one less trash DD alive is one less ship for your ships to shoot at, and little bits of damage done to Wo-Kais will add up over time, so take that as you will.

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Just need Kashima and I will be done with E-1 farming.

So if the rewards were Reppu Kai and Keiun, does that mean the shit dive bomber is coming in December?

>>16175894
Obviously it means new USN planes

>>16175894
Reppuu

>>16175894
I took it as a hint that jets(lol) are finally coming because why would they give Keiun again? It has limited uses and not everyone can use it.

>>16175230
all the bullshit that stops you from making it to the boss isn't there and the boss just acts like she does on E4 H prefinal for last dance. bring 4 CVs with full fighters and still getting air parirty because three dances with wos sucks

>>16175612
after equipment lock

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I'm getting tired of this bullshit.

>>16176041
Otome is waiting for you.

>>16176047
But I do really need 2 catapults in my backyard.

>>16176047
Bye, E4H. Otome route for me this time.

diamond on node O?

>>16176074
of course, O and Q should always be diamond. it's H that feels weird to diamond since nothing can protect you from crits from either airstrike or shelling

>>16175679

I feel like a horrible human being for liking this.

>>16176084
Sorry, E-5.

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Finally! I joined a week or two before the 2014 spring event and she has been avoiding me since then.

>>16176087
She isn't crying, so she must like it.

>>16175786
>>16175800
I'm sorry that I didn't start playing 3 years ago and that I don't have all the good ships on level 99 with resources over 200k.

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So close, yet so far.

>>16176139
You should be.

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>>16176145
I truly am.
Please forgive me.
I'm a disgrace.

>>16176171
OK but only if you do the next event full-hard.

>>16176165
What's his goal?

Kasumi is a fucking Kuso herself. From full hp to taiha for no reason in just one node.

>>16176141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QswaLvEMolk

What would be the best approach for farming Sakawa? Play on hard, unlock 2nd starting point and farm O, or play on easy and either unlock 2nd point and farm O or just farm A?

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This last kill was so bullshit. After reaching there in 5 runs my girls constantly got taihas and chokes for 22 runs.

Anyway, another e-peen medal to exchange for screws. I wish it gave 10k of each resource, I still need to do 4-5, 5-5 and 6-5

https://my.mixtape.moe/nycnhv

>>16176256
Why do some post the whole battle in webm? Does anyone seriously care what happens outside of yasen?

>>16176265
I do.
I also despise faggots like you who ignore day battle.

>>16176265
There's some people who can clear bosses on daytime, retard.

>>16176274
Well, obviously that's an exception.

Does escort fleet have a lower chance to trigger AACI? Ever since I've moved Maya to the escort fleet she has been 1/8 in AACI triggering so far.

>>16176293
Was she the flagship in both instances?

I hope Tanaka gets to play perfect LBAS defence in E-5 with basic 32's, 52's and 1 Hien for the rest of his life.

>>16176311
No, 6th while in main and 2nd while in escort. I've read that escort fleet has lower AA multiplier than main fleet but I'm not sure if it affects the calculation for AACI chance.

>>16176319
AACI chance depends on eq and AA stat.

>try to unlock e-5 2nd starting point
>have t52 on bases
>get perfect defense but no air supremacy
>equip reppuus and shiden k2 on bases
>get air supremacy but take damage every time
Explain this.

>>16176354
Fuck off.

>>16176354
What about interceptors?

>>16176376
Used the same amount both times, all 3 I have.

Should I upgrade proto 35.6 and Mk.I?

>>16176393
Proto 35.6cm looks more aesthetic.

>>16176387

Are you using Saiuns?

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Even at 6-5 she still wont leave me alone.

>>16176409
2 Saiuns and 1 T2 Recon

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>>16176410

>>16176410
Abyssal Shoukaku > Abyssal Kaga
I want Abyssal Shoukaku back, fuck Tanaka and his Kaga fucking fetish.

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>>16176437
You can always play Kancolle Kai if you wanna see Emo Shoukaku again.

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How's this set up for E4 transport? Also how much LoS do I need? Wiki doesn't say.

>>16176393
Upgraded Brit is the best fBB gun.

>>16176455
>playing Vita

>>16176465
Move Katsuragi to bottom. I would get give DA to Kasumi if you want to have a chance at Asakaze. If you already have Asakaze, bring another daihatsu/drum mule.

>>16176465
I'm sure that's enough LOS, and it looks like a good fleet setup too. Good luck.

>>16176467
>>16176393

Upgraded 38.1cm Mk.I/N, mind you. Proto 35.6 is second.

Do I use the AA formation at E5's triple Wo Kai combined node?

>>16176467
How many screws should I spend to make it?

>>16176480
That's what I meant, I don't remember that random streak of characters after its caliber.
They're all really close. Proto is the best for Kongous, 38cmKai has the most accuracy on other fBBs, Brit is great mix of power and accuracy while Pasta is the best on Pastas.

Thing is, 16 inch exists and is better choice for fBBs in single fleet or Kidou.

>>16176495
Unless you're swimming in them, none because >>16176505
In single fleet you're better off with 16inch/proto41cm and in Suijou you should choose 38cm Kai for accuracy or proto35.6cm for Kongous.

>>16176488

You aren't shooting down all the planes from any of those Wo so the only thing you get is better protection from their opening air strike. Meanwhile, you are gimping all your ships.

So no. Line ahead.

>>16176510
I only have like 130 screws at the moment, and I'm saving it for Reppu upgrades or something.

>>16176512
>You aren't shooting down all the planes from any of those Wo
Actually, I occasionally silenced one of them in line ahead, that's why I thought ring formation could do that more reliably.

>>16176516
>wanting to upgrade a plane with no misc stats

>>16176516
"only" is reserved for below 20.

>>16176521
That's like saying you don't want to upgrade Shinden Kai.

>>16176519

I went throught that node close to 30 times and that never happened to me. Then again, there are other reasons why you should use line ahead.

- Your ships don't trigger AACI
- You effectively make your escort useless.
- Wo high armor will reisist your BBs AP cut-in unless they are hotels.

I want to puke. E4 is unreal. I am at transport phase but my blood pressure already through the roof.

>>16176455
No thank you, I'm not enough of a good goy.

>>16176552
Getting AP or better for node H will make things much better.

>>16176561

You think I didn't? You have to get 20 successful run for that shit, and my girls can somehow get taiha on the way one way or another.

>>16176567
>20 successful run

Where did you leave your daihatsus and drums anon?

>>16176574

I use one daihatsu. The other one is a duck so no daihatsu for her.

>>16174520
Why does Kawakaze even have pointed ears?

>>16176603
Elven heritage which means she's good only for one thing.

>>16176603
overdesign

>>16176603
Because I am angry.

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YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY YOU MOTHER FUCKING WHORE

>>16176626
I hope you are insulting the abyssals.

>>16176607
Tender loving?

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[SCREAM EXTERNALLY]

>>16176657
Where is your route support at?

>>16176657
Use Support

>>16176626
>>16176657
Fuck off. Go blog elsewhere.

>>16176657
>>16176626

Which map is this one supposed to be?

>>16176693
But that's the entire point of these threads during events fampai.

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>>16176657
Use support of the best CL.

>>16176711

E4 support phase first node.

https://exhentai.org/g/1000665/f2179cf05f/

Some people really are mad about ship sluts replacing the actual ships in google huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawgtgaBrlw

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>>16176626
>>16176657
I know that feel.

>>16176716
What's so great about taking out Tsu after she already did her AA thing? Getting the Wo to orange would be better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig-srP14XCQ

>>16176735
Tsu is easily the most dangerous opponent on whole TP phase. Wo is blind, Tsu can hit your DD.

>>16176729
Oh the joys of autism.

>>16176734

No you don't. Those are the first node taiha, back to back.

>>16176743
>Wo is blind
You're thinking of BB Hime.

>>16176743
No, not all. Just on the first node because she can dodge everything and then torpedo you, but she's useless in diamond.

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Someone really loves Okinami.

>>16176762
She can still hit your DDs from chuuha to taiha and her torpedo is high enough that it will hurt when crit happens despite diamond lowering damage.

Is there any real use in bringing duckies to E-3 or should I just slap on another TCI ship?

>>16176795

If you've got all 3 ducks why no? You won't be using more than one for each one of the next locks.

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>>16176764
>dupes
>love

Is there a debuff for E-4? I have 50 buckets left.

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So, I was sparkling Akizuki and, well. As expected from my lovely wife, her aim is perfect.

>>16176800
Thing is, I'm having trouble actually killing the boss, and even when the AACI triggers, the result doesn't vary all that much in regards to damaged ships.

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>>16176811
Right here.

>>16176800
I plan to use both Hatsuzuki and Teruzuki on E5 so I can have 90% chance of AACI or retain the possibility to AACI after using FCF.

>>16176811
If you have bought over 100000 dmm points on your account, your ships receive a great evasion boost. That's about it, and it works for every map, not just E4.

>>16176819
Savage

>>16176811

Well, it's up to you then.

>>16176821

You'll need some kind of good AA cut-in for E-4 hard.

>>16176836
The best one: >>16176812

To the people who used Nagato for E-5. What did your set up look like? I thought the nuke node would make it too much of a hassle to bother but from what I've seen she hits like a tank and I think that makes it all the worth the risk.

>>16176846
nuke sub node*

>>16176846
Nagato is very unnecessary as long as you have one Eugen or Sakawa at escourt fleet on the end.

>>16176813
I was fine with Kiyoshimo's AACI on E3.

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>E-5 last dance
>Sakawa taiha
>Nagato, pudding chuuha
> "Guess it won't work this time"
> Ooi hits the boss
> KTKM cutins on the boss
> Pudding cutins on the boss

Were this an actually hard map I'd have to marry them.

>>16176864
Only have Prinz and she got sniped in the morning and they only chipped away half her health. I guess I can throw that up to a bad roll but since I don't have Sakawa I don't think i have much choice.

>>16176846
>>16176874

I didn't have Sakawa, so I just loaded the required CL with opening ASW, and one of the DDs. Made the sub node manageable.

Maya+Nagato+4CV
ASW CL+ASW DD+Akizuki-class+2CLT+Prinz

Gets easy day-battle kills on boss, never had to retreat (with usage of FCF).

>>16176869
>Pudding cutins
For what purpose.

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>>16176846
Like this but with Nagato as flagship, then I switched to a dupe Sakawa that dropped from A node.

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>>16176883
I spent a lot of time feeding her toddlers, why should I not let her have fun now that she gets nukes?

Does Night plane activate in parity?

>>16176899
I think it doesn't but I'm not 100% sure.

Anyone else farming E-5 boss?
43 runs here including the clearing, Asakaze, 1 Akitsu, 1 Maruyu got, still no Oyashio.

>>16176881
>>16176890
Thank you very much, hopefully my odds of killing her will increase with this.

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based

>>16176899
It can only activate in AS, AS+ or a node starting with yasen.

>>16176883
Because seeing 2000 damage crits vaporize everything is hilarious.

>>16176917
The most dangerous part of the map is node O in my opinion. Triple Wo is just stupid and really whittles down your air power. A taiha carrier is a near guaranteed loss at the boss.

>E5
>Get the first 6 kills relatively easily
>On last dance
>Can't even get past pre-boss node
What the fuck is going on? Did something change?

>>16176928
I agree, even getting AS is a bit absurd.

>>16176942
No, RNG decided to fuck with you.

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At last a good run.

Shigure recked the boss with a 270~ double attack. And you guys told me she's a choker.

Is there any LoS calculator capable of calculating LoS value with different Cn weighting?

>>16176992
I don't see Shigure anywhere.

Which is safer for your bucket count on E4 chipping? Heavy or light?

>>16177002
subs

>>16176992
Is this a meme? Where's Shigure?

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>>16176999
>>16177007
Seems I did so many sparkling today that I can't even tell the between Shigure and Yuudachi. They are both well know chokers after all.

>>16176942
Happened to me too for a while.

It's just Wo that won't let you go.

>>16176942

I was like that for 3 days anon, mainly because I had to restock because E-4 destroyed my resources but yeah, I needed 22 tries just for last kill.

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Turns out 50k was actually enough if you ignore E-4 assfuckery

Seriously, what the fuck. I've been stuck on E-3 for 2 days now. Not because of abyssal bullshit or my boats failing, but because the compass insists on always sending me to O. Only exception beeing when I tried STF, which immidiately ended in M.

>>16177058
Not even 20k steel for E-4 hard?

How?

>>16177058

Is E5 really that easy? I am starting E4 Hp gauge right now.

>>16177087

Anon, you need 4 historical ships to go L

>>16177087
3 DD in escort?

>>16177092
Probably light fleet while supports ate fuel and ammo.

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5/5 kills. Easiest 4-5 in my life. BBs BTFO.

>>16177094
Getting to the boss is somehow annoying.

Killing it is easy with 3 nuclear girls, a joke if you have dupes.

>>16177094
Unlocking the start point is harder than the actual map, only thing that'll stop you are some taihas at the triple Wo node if you're unlucky.

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>>16177100

Actually, I used heavy fleet for most of the chipping, >>16177092 found a typo for me.

The actual steel cost was 30k higher (thanks, Shoukaku).

>>16177105
It's a joke even with only Prinz and Sakawa without disgusting dupes. Nagato is optional because fuck additional cancermarine node and higher fuel penalty.

>>16177101
Wait what. Why do you have the same wife as me?
Congrats anon, she really brings you the victory.

>>16177097
>>16177099
Tried with 4 historicals, 5, 6, and currently 7. Each with first 2DDs, then 3DDs in escort. CTF of course. Always O.

>>16177115
He bangs your boatfu when you don't look

>>16177005
Will 2 Yamato plane be enough to secure LoS?

Can someone screen shot their 2-5 fleet and post it?
My LoS is over 300 and I'm still routing to J.

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>>16177117

What's your comp? This worked for me without any problem with LoS or route.