General Nutaku Thread 75

frosty piss

Seeing that I take like 3-4 Demon crystals each time I do the quest... I can imagine how much time it will take to gather 300 for Saki.

>>14621500
Yeah, once you can do hard you can get around 9 or so on average, can go up to like 15 or so though. Either way though just have to slowly collect.

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This artist is everywhere nowaday.

>>14621504
Personally I don't think I'll ever get Saki, too busy with awakening and cost reducing my elves.

>>14621541
How do you cost reduce a unit?

Also awakening... DMM?

Anyone got the link for the live action timer for kanpani girls? I had it but lost it.

>>14621573
You cost reduce a unit by feeding a duplicate of the same unit (e.g. give a Katie to another Katie.)
Unfortunately it is harder to fully cost reduce a unit because the further you reduce, the more likely the next attempt will fail.
Awakening is indeed on DMM, not on Nutaku yet.

I just received a duplicate friday reward just now with the exact same message in Kanpani Girls.

>Every single New Years fortune was Lucky

How ironic

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Time to spend half a year to +3 her CW.

>>14621676
How does rolling work in this game. I can do it once for free? Also black notes random?

>>14621700
You get 4 roll for free everyday, you can roll more by using the shine stones, which are the game cash currency. 3* and above shows up as black envelopes.
We also have gold mail posts, which are event items that boost the chance for higher rarity girls. It's recommended to save up 2 days free draws and pop the post before the daily reset to get both boosted draws.

>>14621713
>We also have gold mail posts
Forgot to mention the silver posts, which has lower boost than gold posts.

>>14621713
What time does the draw reset on DMM?

>>14621730
4:00 AM JST.

>>14621733
Hey bro, can you do me a favor?

>>14621130
Nutaku posted gift into peropero: go to the completion bonus stage and just start rolling til you get grills, they added one called mistress shiro. They even translate the description of the character as a girl. This is a first since they card isn't a SR nor an event card so, is nutaku is slipping?

http://www.outofstandard.jp/peropero/detail.php?id=895&keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=450&width=810

Lori codes. First one was posted last thread:

KNPG-E7NA-WRM9 - 3* Lori (Credit to Anime Games Online : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ghRfCr9Lo )

KNPG-D4HM-YA4S - 3* Lori (Credit to Einshine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJkwmX33Kc )

>>14621786
So that makes 4 Lori's, one more and can have her at full awakening (though I would have to level her)

>>14621786
>KNPG-E7NA-WRM9
Don't works to me, strange.

>>14621750
that is one fine lady. I hope other games (aigis) gets some fine ladies too. But nutaku is not slipping anything so fear not she is mature lady as one would expect.

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Some of these lizards (added on the latest chapter on DMM Kanpani) use the same animations as the Fighter class (like the skeletons), and these ones have these large swords. Probably just dumb speculation on my part, but they wouldn't add a new class at this point, right?

>>14621995
That what I was thinking at first, but their attack animation looks like fighter dragon fang skill.

>>14621995
Is there design space for another class in Kanpani? I mean, you have your beefy utility (soldier), dodgy utility (rogue), beefy-but-not-quite DPS (warrior), dodgy-but-not-quite DPS (ronin), backline physical damage (archer), backline magical damage (magician) and healer (cleric), with fighters standing in the middle of the beefy/dodgy spectrum.

I guess you can have a mage-knight class that deals single-target magic damage from the frontline, in contrast to magicians that deal area magic damage from the back.

>>14622554
Both design and gameplay wise, a class using large sword would overlap with warrior anyway, it's quite pointless to create a new class like that.
As for frontline magic damage dealer class, they can just give cleric better frontline skills and it would work the same.

>>14622574

Or give an existing front-line class a new weapon with exclusive "this does magic damage" trait. Afterall, Morganstern is the only cleric weapon that does AoE front line damage and there are other 'unique' weapons for other classes, e.g. the solder's "no def, att only" spear.

Is it better to play on dmm or nutaku?

>>14622624
DMM, not even a question.

In addition to up-to-date content on a much broader range of games, you also get to poke fun at Nutaku's incompetence instead of having to deal with their shit.

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I don't have any problems with other dmm games, but I've never been able to get JP kanpani to work.

Can't get it to load regardless of the browser and I get this chrome's console. I assume it's just an issue with their servers and my ISP but was curious if anyone else ever had this.

>>14622689
One anon got that problem before, back in the old DMM threads.
At first he thought he got banned, and he had been playing Kanpani since its launch, but later he managed to get back into the game again.

>>14621750
Whats the completion bonus stage? After I've completed the bosses in "explore" right?

>>14622837
Yes, after completing the bosses in "explore". The bonus stage is literally a blank screen where you roll the slots, per usual and you have access to a wider pool of girls.
Nothing exciting.

Nutaku Kanpani: (duchy Lv 60) battlefields suddenly have PvP teams all over them?

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Whoa, the FKG broadcast will actually have a new girl as a present for premium viewers.

Time to get premium membership for this month.

>>14623095
I can't imagine they'd give an individual code to each viewer (unless their views are really so low), so will it just be some universal serial code that can be easily shared?

>>14623112
Not a clue, but they did something similar for the previous broadcast, there was a +0 third-tier ring for premium viewers. Did anyone here get that thing?

I think they peaked at 80k viewers for the last broadcast, but I don't know how many of these were premium. Though Agave's LN code is one-off too, so it might not be so unlikely to generate and send distinct codes to everyone.

>>14623112
Aigis had unique codes for premium members during last broadcast, could be the same or no one would bother paying.

>>14623120
Back when the DMM Games thread was still a thing, someone posted the code from the broadcast. It was just some silver unit, if I recall correctly.

>>14623133
That was the code that they gave away during the program itself, but there was also a premium bonus that they sent after it.

We're getting a free 4* with this program too, though it's Waremokou instead of Snowflake.

>>14623146
Ah, I see. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to miss out.

>>14623153
Well, you can always find someone who doesn't play FKG and has a premium account to get the code for you.

I don't think the unit will be particularly good, since they made sure Agave didn't outperform the other golds (Wolfsbane will probably go the same way too), but in any case it's worth a try.

Am I seeing this right? You get a code for sybilla when you buy her nendoroid?

>>14623164
Yeah, probably will be weak. Probably very cute to tempt people, though. Looks like a loli from the silouhette.

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I have three each of silver, gold and platinum fairies...who's the best candidate for my 2nd platinum armor?

>>14623301

Bashira or Iris.
You can never really go wrong with a Archer or Healer. Especially a healer.

>>14623301
poor iris
feed her

Siegrid finally gets CW in DMM Kanpani. At +3: single target, x5.2

>>14623364
>>14623399
Is Iris really that good? Liana's been holding down the high-spec healer role pretty well so far, and Alissa is just nice right now because she came with that 30% bonus affection and a lower cost.

>>14621130
Why does that dress have a cut-out where the navel is?

How vulgar.

>>14623576
Because Iris gets overall higher stats than Alissa and later can be Awakened, Also you will need at least 2 or 3 GOOD healers during events.

>>14623576
Liana is far too expensive, while Alissa doesn't cut it on harder difficulties. Iris and Fedora are a nice balance.

Iris is also fairly easier to mincost since she's usually a gold rush reward. And when she's AW'd, she instantly heals 500 HP for everyone when deployed.

She's also the cutest healer we have. RIP black Iris.

Name a unit that can solo Phalanx 2 at level 40 no CC or AW

>>14623170
No, you get code for nerfed sapphire version of sybilla.

>>14623576
Cost to power ratio, I'd say Iris is pretty good. Liana, like >>14623627 said, is too expensive(You'd be better off going with Chydis than Liana), Her skill also doesn't boost her power but range and cures status affects, but you doesn't see Status affects in every map anyway.
Alissa, you'll probably want to CC her anyway because having a CC'd silver is never a bad thing. Especially since you can min-cost them easily.

But in the end, if you are choosing your first healer to CC. I'd Go with Iris. You can do the others next time.

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Finally, time to quit this game for good sake.

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>>14623030
Yeah, looks like they finally got battlefield parties working.

Is http://aigis.gcwiki.info/ dead or what?
I know they are planning to move, but why did they stop updating pages for days? Still no info on Fermi and even no links for youtube search on event maps.

3 Evolved units in my team, Soma, Cloris and now Iris. TIme for Bashira.

>>14623633
Sherry or Sybilla can kill everything, they just need the prince behind them for buff and some heals.

>>14623930
> solo
> prince behind them for buff and some heals

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>>14623120
It only gained 9 atk/level, so a warrior ring +10 from the equipment gacha with 1507 atk at lv40 is probably cheaper since you don't have to pay for the combining through levels 40-50.

Still, it's bling for the waifu.

>>14622554
Hybrid classes could be a thing. Kanpani has a bunch of "can also/used to use X" characters, like Alice's "can also use a sword", Dagmar's "they said I suck with swords", Mille's "I threw the sword away", Maud's "used to be an assassin".

Level 80 Sybilla can solo P2, though she may need some lucky hits with Fragarach, or she'll take too much damage without heals.

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Who should I do next, Pipin, Bashira or Figneria?
Bashira is needed for DC god-tier and story quests, Figneria is needed for spirits rescue god-tier and story quests, Pipin because AW fenshui are cool.

>>14623937
It depends on the interpretation of soloing that the guy wants, either going alone or killing things without anyone else attacking both are valid, can you name any that can do it completly on their own at that level?
I'd doubt Despara can do it without CC.

>>14623961
Mikoto, at 100% AFF

>>14623981
Strange, I'm fairly sure I tried that myself when trying to gauge her strength, mine might have been a bit lower than 40 though.
Most fun way to do Phalanx 2 was to just princess spam though, Sybilla, Sherry, Olivie, Themis, and Karma.

>>14624008
put Mikoto at farthest right point on map, and use the Time Stop when it can hit the last two waves

>>14623945
>Lvl 40

>>14624050
Pretty sure I wasn't replying to you, faggot.

I just started Millennium War Aigis and I got raped trying to do the event. What level do I need to be before I can do it?

>>14624126
300-400 probably, since you're new

>>14623942
Thanks for the info. So were we correct in assuming that they sent a unique, one-use code to your Nico account?

Also, looks like 2ch is thinking the mystery girl is Acacia, because her fluffy skirt looks like the tree's catkins (and that would explain her crown of thorns too), but they thought Lantana was Acacia too so should take it with a grain of salt. I can sympathize with them though, we ought to see her already.

>>14624313
It's a one-use code. There will be a banner-button in the stream description (for illustration purposes, the clickable Yamabuki/Onci in the middle of the previous livestream's page: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv237052280/ ). You click that during the broadcast, and submit an email address to the form (doesn't have to match the nico account's). It won't be on the upcoming stream's page until it actually starts.

Then you fret for a couple days wondering if you made a typo in your email until it arrives. This one's subject was: 【niconico】(フラワーナイトガール 公式騎士団協議会)アイテム獲得のお知らせ
Done this a few times for various FKG and Aigis streams and the sender so far has always been [email protected] . I've used gmail.com and yahoo.co.jp and they both got the mail fine.

The battlefield pvp parties in kanpani seem to give a lot more exp than the original ones

One run of hard Duchy of Remalgia used to give about 11k exp after killing eveything, now it gave me 28k

>>14624410
Where do I find the aigis streams? And what did you get from the codes for aigis?

>>14624410
Thank you again.

Well, premium membership is $4.5 a month, so I guess this a bargain even if I don't find anyone willing to fill the form for me.

>>14623660
>>14623627
>>14623623
Fair enough, I'll give Iris a fair shot. It's not really a matter of just picking Chydis, though, unless there's an easy way to get her I'm not aware of. I haven't done any rerolling, and I'm not any more likely to after getting Sybilla.

One more question, what kind of characters should I be using my rainbow spirits on? I know I'm supposed to wait until class change for any character whose skill changes, at least.

>>14624629
Chydis is not gacha unit, she's trade post exclusive. She will be available for 200 DC once Dev tea finally gets to rotate trade post.

>>14624629
Chydis is from the Trading Post.

Anything with a really strong skill that is hard to level up normally.

>>14624629
>rainbow spirits
Definitely Katie

>>14624659
Yeah, no.

>>14624629
Definitely Sybilla, but as a general rule, any character with a unique or useful skill, while also being difficult to obtain more copies of, is fair game for rainbow fairies. Any princess is a good start.

Why is there no hard recipe quest for dmm but one for nutaku kanpani? Would make farming so much easier.

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>>14624585
First stream was in February, got Chrono Witch Lizette. Second was in June, they gave another Lizette and Mecha Knight Fii. They typoed her name ファー instead of フィー, said "oops, well we'll put in a ファー eventually then," and that's the story of the name of the current event's monkey girl.

Lizette is a low attack power witch who releases a one-hit slow AOE on skill activation, not super exciting. Fii is a puppeteer like Rikka, her skill gives 1.1~1.5x ATK and DEF but no 0-block. Skill AW changes it to 2.0x ATK and 50% attack nullify. She's still pretty durable though.

The stream announcements should be either in the banner right below the game, or in the far right button's page (where they advertise the key rings, LNs, and such). Nothing for Aigis at the moment. I sure some anon will manage to not scroll past the announcement when one appears.

>>14624788
I want Nutaku to do things like that

>>14624814
Never.

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>>14624908

>>14623946
Bashira

Wish they'd given Yurina an offensive skill, with AW prince I find myself not using her much anymore.

>>14625406
Yurina is waste of resources when Anya exist

>>14625471
Anya cannot replace Yurina as anti-magic tank.

>>14625471
B-but I like her more than Anya.
Problem is the prince who took away Yurina's place as main tank.

>>14625480
After AW she completely can though. 5 MR is something but it's definitely replaceable.

>>14624730

Because Nutaku wrote that in.

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>>14625696
Seems like they actually... care about Nutaku version?
Nah,

>>14625714
More like they just dumb down the grind in Nutaku version, seeing as they are handling out high rarity characters like candies.

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>>14625755
>dumb down the grind in Nutaku version
You say that like if it's a bad thing, let's be honest: Kanpani is a grind fest, it's ok for Japan to grind years without getting nothing because they... like that? Not only in japan of course.
If they want to appeal to more players they need to throw some bones, they are doing well in my opinion.

>>14625771
The weapon crafting gets on my nerve than the grind. Not sure if they also buffed the rate for Nutaku version, as people already have CW+3 for Holly and Rose in these threads.

>>14625811
Dunno, i'm still trying to get a Futility+3, burned i don't even know how many resources trying.

Is it easier to reroll on a phone and then link the account to a dmm account?

For Aigis, what the fuck can you do with Pieces of Crystals?

>>14625976
In the shrine, the crystal pieces can be used.
You have two eyes right? (Sorry if you only got one) Take a poke around.

>>14625991
I play with no eyes. Blind aigis.

>>14625999
The truest blind Aigis run.
Still stuck on Escape the Capital.

Any advice on what I should work on to be able to 3 star Map 4 of JP event? Keep getting my ass handed to me, most videos I saw either use a lot of cost reduced units or awakened ones, of which I have neither. Best I've been able to get is 2 star, but cant come close to killing the monkey.

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whoa, finally a girl that looks like a mercenary

I also think Violetta looks cool, would be nice to have a whole party of tough looking girls

I'll pretend to bully the hell out of all the cute ones

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>>14626055
Forgot pic, current team. Only max affection units are Iris and Chydis, Esther, Despara, Nenya, the archers, Katie, and Jessica. Bernice is halfway right now

Is it worth using sacred crystals to roll at all?

>>14626246
If you are a f2p, only if you feel REALLY lucky or if you got more than you need.

>>14626246
you can only find out after the fact
I have a couple accounts and one got two blacks and three plats right away
the other one ain't got shit

>>14626055
I think Despia, Nenya and Jessica should be enough to kill the monkey. Save their skills for when she gets close.
You could probably also use Jessica as tank.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28007092
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28008033

I used the second one with magic fencer instead of princess. Samurai can be replaced with mage armor.

What's the preferred use of sacred crystals, then?

>>14623636
Does everyone who order the nendoroid get one?

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>>14626488
Increase storage slots and buying a new storage, stamina/charisma refill during collection/revive events.

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>>14621713
you can save up the free draws!?

>>14621713
>4 free rolls everyday

Wat

>>14626535
But none of those give black units.

>>14626566
He means that you should take note of what hour does the daily draw reset for you, activate the mail post (which is only active for 15 minutes) a few minutes before the reset, use your current free draw, wait until the reset and then use your new free draw.

For example, daily resets are at 18:00 in my local time. Basically, activate the post at 17:55, use the free draw, then do another free draw after 18:00.

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>>14626573
Calling it 4 rolls is a bit misleading, just each draw gives 4 characters envelopes.

>>14626587
You don't need black units

>>14623636
"nerfed" version of Sybilla or Sybilla's sister?

>>14626598
>4 rolls is a bit misleading
Just a bit?
But this makes me remember something, in the end did anyone discovered if they actually changed something about the malboxes working with the fairy envelopes or they just failed big time?
I'm asking because i've rolled 4 FE during a gold mailbox and i've rolled a 3*.
Maybe is just a case but still.

>>14626653
Why not?

>>14625870
You need to link to a dmm account before you can use the phone version I believe

>>14626587
Events give Black Units. So actually two of those do (Stamina Refill and Charisma Refill during Events).

>>14626719
Because only shitter scrubs need blacks in Aigis. Are you a shitter scrub anon?

>>14626587
yes they do

>>14626719
because you can just git guder with mincost silvers

>>14626705
If all your rolls with FE are 2* and above, then the mailboxes worked.

>>14626730
on nutaku maybe

>>14626737
):

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>>14626705
You know what, if i don't get an answer for the time i've collected 50 FE i'm going to burn them all with a gold mailbox, for science.

>>14626731
Sadly i don't remember.
I'll wait and see if i don't found out anything i'll just go on with my plan
>>14626923

>>14626923
make sure you max out everything you need before you waste away your cash points
I maxed out my resource building slots, bought aprons, etc. I even needed to open up more character slots since I dont want to throw anyone away

>>14626986
I'm talking about FE not ES draws.
Already bought all the slots and some extra employee slots, collecting more ES for these 5 aprons.

>>14627008
ah, ok

I just thought of this:
If the jp kanpani adds new characters every two weeks, do they also increase the number of times you can expand the maximum employee limit?

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>>14621130
why I don't have third quest for recipe?

>>14627246
You need to end chapter 1-10-7 first

>>14627059
The most recent time they did it was at the beginning of October. Back then the employee register number was getting really close to the limit,160 girls out of 169 max slots. They added another 10 expansions at that time for the current max of 219.

Currently, the register goes up to employee number 176, so next time might be around September or October.

>>14626587
Premium summon will not give you black units too. Or plats. You will get bunch of silvers with few golds, unless you spend considerable sum of money and buy 100+ SC pack.
Gacha is tool for devs to get profit, its not for giving freemium players premium units.

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>>14627545
except for the rare occasions when it does
which of course drives everyone else to try it for themselves
I picked up Rachel right after this screenshot

*Monica
always got them mixed up

>>14627545
Amen to that. I used 60 crystals that I'd accumulated in DMM to roll gacha and didn't even get a single plat, that convinced me pretty handily to stick with FKG and not bother with Aigis.

Also, I joined Aigis in DMM and Nutaku at around the same time, and Nutaku had handed out 7 crystals during that time. I have no idea why people are still playing on it.

>>14627599
It's fun. Unless you're talking about playing on Nutaku over DMM. I'm not sure why anyone would choose an inferior version either.

>>14627599
Back when i started Nutaku seemed like the most reasonable choice since i know nothing of Japanese, I'm kind of ignorant about most of the differences(i only know they have more maps and flashy units) but it seems like a waste to try and change because i am pretty stablished in Nutaku now, have all the units from the last gold rush and i have that qt plat bandit from the gacha.

I play what i can i suppose.

>>14627545
3% isn't that low. FGO and SIF both have 1% for their rarest rarity.

>>14627719
3% is still 33 rolls on average, or 165 SC. That's why I said its viable only if you buy 100+ packs, rolling something like 20-30 SC is pointless.

>>14627730
I've only rolled one Platinum in ten or fifteen rolls, but it was Thetis so it's all good

>>14627545
I got four blacks being a free player.

Of course because of that luck, I only got two platinums and one decent gold.

My four blacks were Dina, Dina, Mikoto, and that one black angel. The two platinums being Saria and Elizabeth, the one gold being Mehlis. Just about every other unit I have of note is from events and gold rush.

Still, aside from the black angel because I had a cloe at 10 skill and almost mincost, every unit I got above gold was incredibly strong. The best or the second best of their class respectively.

I'd say it is definitely worth it to take the risk when you have free SC. Just keep 20-40 in reserve depending on how much stamina you have.

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>>14628004
Mikoto is fucking retarded
best unit

>>14628010
She definitely is. I awakened her and gave her my second exp fairy, the first to Dina, and the tokens she has have 1500 health, 980 attack, and 320 defense. They're absurdly good. It's like having three free high level bandits.

She actually does a respectable amount of damage with the prince buff too, for her essentially being an aoe witch.

>>14628010
What other units are good? Is nanaly shit?

>>14628152
literally best archer

What do these beers do in Aigis?

>>14628168
Share them with your men for some manly bonding.

>>14628168
keep them for yourself and be sure to discharge any male units you may get
they will steal ya girls

>>14628170
Oh I accidentally got rid of all of them. Can you trade them for flowers?

>>14628168
Why don't you read noob guides on wiki before asking stupid shit?

>>14628178
You cannot "get rid" of affection items, stop trolling.

>>14628185
I think he meant his men

>>14628180
I didn't even think men had different affection items.

>>14628190
No, I meant ur mum.

Should I get me a second Spica for CR purposes, or just wait till the next trading post change? Alreadt have 5/5 skill cause of that silver guy, but no CR yet. Also, can we expect to have a circular change that will eventually give us certain set of units again, or is it a sort of gone for good thing?

>>14628178
You aren't missing anything. Almost all men units are shit and affection bonuses are half that which ladies receive.

>>14628333
Just like real life. amiriteladies?

>>14628327
On JP, trade post circles through same set of units, usually one unit stays about month there.
So its Spica -> Janne -> Chydis -> ... -> Spica -> Janne -> ...
On EN, Spica is stuck in trade post for more than half a year and devs refuse to do anything despite requests from players and nutaku.

>>14628333
You need male team for male only maps.
Also, plenty of male units are good. Some like Gellius or Jeremy are best in their class+rarity, some like Conrad boost whole class and work very well with other units of same class (Imeria + Amanda + Conrad + Airin + Aria is terrific combo).

FKG question:
Ability パーティメンバーがボスに対して与えるダメージが10％増加する works only with raid bosses or usual map bosses too? Raid boss only abilities usually state explicitly that they are "raid boss", and this one says just "boss".

>>14628476
The bride ability? It applies to story bosses too.

>>14628333
They're half to compensate for the fact that male units have higher base stats by default, ends up being the same in the end

>>14628559
sometimes it is
sometimes it's shit
I think there are a couple of male units that are the worst of their class/rarity

If I want to start jp aigis can I still get all the old units over time?

>>14629025
no
I mean there will be revival events, but probably not everything

>>14629025
In long run, yes

>>14629025
There were more revival events in last 6 months on DMM than usual events on Nutaku.

>>14629025
kind of

>>14628583
Gold males are generally shitty, but platinum ones are generally great.

>>14629063
And that's REALLY depressing.

In Kanpani, I was able to get a +2 prismatic wolfsangel for Ann, but it still has only casts heal once.

Please dont tell me she heals twice only with a +4? The battleclub wiki still seems pretty incomplete

>>14630053
Only CW+3 has unique skill for that character.
and it's not healing twice in a row, the x2 is just damage/heal multiplier.

>>14630053
Only event equipment goes up to +4, I believe.

According to the JP Wiki, her unique skill only unlocks on a +3, and it doesn't heal twice, it heals at x2.0 rate. That is, she heals once for 2x her magic attack. Also heals status effects, yes.

>>14630053
Only Holly has decent multiple heal CW

>>14630086
>decent
is basically god mode

>>14630086
>Holly
>Decent
Funny way to spell broken as fuck.

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>>14630097

Basically, you get to do pic related.

>>14630086
Summer event weapon has a pretty good multiple heal skill.
The rest are trash so far.

>>14630307
Only decent multytarget healing spell.
If you don't have Holly that's the only option for a AoE Healing with 2x2 range and 0.85 multyplier.

>>14629040
>>14629057
>>14629063
>>14629078
Thank you I been thinking I'll start JP aigis soon I dont know why I didnt sooner since I can read nip and chink and still played on nutaku.

So the mail that implied goldbox working with fairy envelopes was confirmed to be a mistake. Whoever did the mail just didn't know according to this mornings chat room logs.

Also looks like no more normal daily mail. They're supposed to be event only like JP but for whatever reason weren't. They were usually shit anyway so as long as they make the event ones decent this is whatever.

>no more normal daily mail
how often will we get shine stones now?'

Also, generally speaking, characters with CWs are better than those without? Or are most CWs average/useless??

In Kanpani EN is anyone else missing material packs? I swear I had 1 or 2 from daily mail, but maybe I'm just mistaken.

>>14630690
Probably a bug.

>>14630712
He didn't specifically say it, but nutakughost implied daily mail will be event only like JP going forward so I doubt it's a bug.

>>14630690
You get 3 a week and I guess some during events. It does suck because the EN version will likely have events less often. I guess spend money if you want more.

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>>14630730
>mail will be event only like JP going forward
Good to know, Nutakughost should tell us about that mail too.

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>>14630761
Apparently that was addressed. Anon9431 is nutakughost. He's having issues with his promoted accounts.

>>14630690
It's all about the skill multiplier, CWs are quite a mixed bag, depend on the quests, sometime you better off using end game normal/event weapons instead. Though some characters do have broken as fuck CW, but they are usually 4* or 5* girls.

>>14630782
>letting someone that don't know shit about the game write in game messages

Oh nutaku

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>>14630782
Well that's it then, what should i do with all these blu coins then...?

>>14630808
Everything else is pretty worthless so you'll still get fairy envelopes. You can still get rare girls you just don't get the small gold/silver box chance increase.

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>>14630872
I swear, for a second i tought that was some kind of furry.

>>14630883
I like the way the chrome effect brings out her freckles

Do I spend $100 on attempting rigged <1% 5* pulls on Kanpani, buy a physical copy of Thousand Arms, or buy even more onaholes?

>>14630872
Am I the only one that doesn't mind Nutaku adding some characters/cards from the western artists?
As long as they keep it seldom, and make it only Facebook/twitter campaign shit (so that they become optional, if you hate them) and their stats don't actually exceed the top end characters already in-game (or change the balance of the game), it doesn't matter, I don't think.

It's just a way to get more people playing the game, which is good in the end for the Japanese developers.

>>14630895
oh I hope so
I mean you're entitled to your opinion and all
but I hope nobody else thinks like you do

>>14630895
If it's Silly Girl? Yes, that's a problem.

If it's Aryril? I'm personally fine with her, but she's objectively better than Natalie, since she's literally half the cost for 33% less attack, so she did make an existing character essentially obsolete (for me, anyway).

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>>14630895
>Am I the only one that doesn't mind Nutaku adding some characters/cards from the western artists?

Look... i don't know if you are serious and you honestly think that way but i can assure you that you are not the only one that thinks that way on Nutaku.
My honest opinion? They are some shitty abomination and they should burn in hell.

I wouldn't mind actually if they got somebody like Wabaki, Norasuko, ghettoyouth or the hanged man to do the art

>>14630895
You know why I would mind?
Because they'll add random ass characters with stupid designs, instead of adding the cut characters from the Japanese edition.
DMM is on a higher level, because of Awakening and without stupid mindsets like "Loli must be cut".

Nutaku wants to add characters like that? 3 things
1) Add all the cut content from DMM and go to a 1-1 with them.
2) Co-operate better with DMM to agree to add those things in both versions and not have regional content.
3) Let the people vote. For example Character 1 - Character 2 - Neither, in case both designs are shit.

They do that? I'm all in.

>>14630894
>Do I spend $100 on attempting rigged <1% 5* pulls on Kanpani,
Unless you have a maxed PR building, 5 girls around level 70-90, and a gold post, don't bother.

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>>14630858
Tought that much, back to farming these 50 FE i go.

>>14630936
Maxed PR building and 3 girls at 70. Other 2 are only 50.

I was going to use a silver post, since I seem to have better luck with them.

>>14630939
Additionally, I highly doubt PR has any effect whatsoever. Probably just a placebo, since the rates and numbers on everything in this game are hidden by the devs - probably because they're so pathetically bad or a complete lie.

>>14630895
I'd really just prefer they hired artists who weren't completely awful. There's virtually no excuse for Sillygirl, even if you look past her hideous mug (and that's no mean feat) she's still some cheap doodle instead of anything resembling professional art. Aryril is fairly sub-par too, but at least her artist tried to do something consistent with the game world, even if that something is an elf with a tiara tattooed on her face and a spine that is bent at two right angles like some sort of elven Tetris block.

I still think the best solution is just having the Japanese artists draw the content. They don't even need to make it exclusive, just release on EN and port them to the JP version a few months later. People don't care about exclusivity, they care about seeing new girls.

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>>14630894
>Should i pay for random waifu or assured one?

Is that even a question?
Neisha is the only option.

>>14630945
Base on browser game standard, I expect the rate for 5* girls is a whooping 0.5%, and maybe 1% after stacking all the possible placebo the devs give us.

>>14630951
>I still think the best solution is just having the Japanese artists draw the content

That could be the best option but i doubt they will ever do such a thing.

>>14630955
that girl is going to be raped

>>14630894
the chances are really under 1%? even with PR lv 20 and expert manifest?

>>14630970
It's me being facetious and saying that. I doubt they're higher than 1%, though.

>>14630959
Why can't devs be sensible and at least have a 3% rate like Aigis?

>>14630970
This is just one of many: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ugqMpyw-EI
5* ratios are shit on Kanpani.

>>14630966
Nah, she is the one tha rapes them.

>>14630895 Here.

>>14630933
I think you bring up a very good point, and I agree with you 100%. I doubt they'll ever bring the cut content in an unaltered form, sadly.

>>14630926
I personally don't find the two characters to be very attractive, but I also recognize that some of the western audience do.

>>14630912
I no longer play Angelic Saga, so I wasn't aware of her utility. That's a bit unfortunate.
I never use Babes in PeroPero, only Mature (for the stats.) Is SillyGirl actually one of the best Babe cards?

>>14630899
Any reason? Is it simply finding the art disgusting?

>>14630951
I agree with your assessment of the art so far. I'm honestly surprised that the artist behind SillyGirl is as successful as they are.

>>14630982
>Any reason?
We don't really want those mouth-breathing disney fetishist retards in this game
They're courting a non-audience

>>14630977
You aren't actually expected to have multiple 5* girls. Nutaku spoiled its players with that campaign.

That was actually one of their wise moves, since the rabble of idiots who play their games are tempted to pay to roll for 5* now, even though the notion is almost as ridiculous as paying for resources to do LSC in Kancolle.

>>14630982
>I personally don't find the two characters to be very attractive
I think they are plain shit but these are My tastes anyway.
I'm scared as hell to see these "replacements" on Aigis.

>>14630995
That's brutal, I only have a single 5* and it's not Judita.

I actually like Kanpani, and wouldn't mind supporting it. Unfortunately, it has the worst fucking rates. Devs could learn a lot from Granblue.

>>14630982
>I no longer play Angelic Saga, so I wasn't aware of her utility. That's a bit unfortunate.

Well, on the flip side, Aryril is an SR, so she costs far more resources to max than an R like Natalie. Whales will get better mileage out of her sooner.

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>>14630995
We got 3 Black FE in like 3 months of life? Plus Judita and who knows for the future.
We got a lot of help for sure.
DMM gets one on Christmas and that's all.

>paying for resources to do LSC in Kancolle
Most of the Japanese players love paying for anything.

>>14630987
I can appreciate that point of view.
If Nutaku actually does listen to their audience, then having such people around could only stand to hurt bringing back cut content, among other things.

>>14630997
Replacements in Aigis? First I'm hearing about this. That actually bothers me quite a bit. No content should be altered/replaced as far as I'm concerned.

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>>14631025
The game has plenty cute 3* and 4* girls, and you don't really need 5* to clear 99% content in game, aside from that super bullshit assassin quest.
There are enough insane nips who probably use full squad of same 1* or 2* girls just because they are cute.

>>14631053
Some of the girls I find really cute or cool are 5*s, though. There's definitely some really cute 4* girls, like Ainnor, who I'm glad I have. I have the worst luck possible when it comes to daily draws and map drops, though.

I'm also lucky to have my favorite 5*, but I really want Elmina as well. I really appreciate games like Granblue even more because of things like this - they have a one time only system where you can pay $30 (I think it was $30/3000 yen) and pick a max rank girl you want. I'm surprised more games don't have offers like this honestly, even if they carried a much higher price tag.

>>14631053
The only thing i hate is any cute girl but 5* doesn't have unique model.

>>14631085
Well, not just a girl. Max rank card in general.

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>>14631085
Aiming for specific 5* girl is just a never ending dream. I just select the crecruitment for the class of the 5* girl I wanted, and probably hope I will get her sometime next year.
>>14631092
That's definitely the one of my main gripe with the game, a lot of non 5* girls have very unique designs, especially after they just introduced a bunch of Chinese themed girls but all of them have the same generic western armor at the end.

>>14631053
Indeed. Every rarity has their share of cute girls so you're not missing out on that part, even if some of their unique skills are very tempting.

I think Tina ranked 10th on a character popularity ranking, which is pretty good considering she's a 2 star character.

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>>14631092
This never stops being amusing.

>>14631085
>I'm surprised more games don't have offers like this honestly, even if they carried a much higher price tag
Gacha games largely profit from people who feel that they must get the character they want at any cost, with gambler's fallacy helping them along until they've spent entire paychecks on the game. Allowing them to choose the character they want kind of defeats that purpose, so it makes sense for devs to not want that feature.

But then, being lenient with players tends to enhance your reputation too. With Granblue now being as popular as it is, maybe other games will learn from its example.

>>14631137
Yep, that's pretty much it. There's a lot of 5*s I'd love to have, but also some that if I got them I'd be pretty mad about.

>>14631153
Yeah, that's entirely my thought process regarding it - Granblue became popular at a ridiculous rate because of how well they treated their players, their fair rates, and the fact that their game is fun.

I'm honestly not surprised that it's so successful - I can't imagine how many free players they got to spend some money with the start dash program (The SSR for 3000 yen), or converted into paying players.They even have a massive Western following, which is crazy.

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>>14631139
Monique rate up was one of the best thing about that poll.
>>14631153
FKG already copied that surprise ticket system Granblue has.

>>14631169
I'm glad that best girl at least placed in the poll.

Camille is love.

>>14631177
Interesting opinion
who is worst girls?

>>14631195
Monique.

>>14631169
>FKG already copied that surprise ticket system Granblue has.
Yeah, FKG also owes at least part of its popularity to the fact that its devs are some of the best on DMM.

I also enjoy how they reveal some of their characters ahead of time, so you can speculate about just what flower they are in the meantime, and save up flower stones if you're a free player and really want them. That's more or less what Nutaku should be doing, just reveal some EN-first characters and release them to JP later on and you'll generate hype on both sides.

>>14631195
ur waifus.

>>14631169
Wow, only one of the Kemomin girls in the top 10? Such terrible taste.

>>14631203
They did have the balls to scrap a whole event and remade it immediately after it went live for 1 hour just because the playerbase disliked it.
You don't see many devs do stuff like this nowaday.

>>14631169
No one loves ronins, confirmed. Makes me sad.

>>14631196
I don't know, I like Monique for being a reasonable, well-adjusted girl with her own concerns and problems instead of just another irritating tsundere with an existence that revolves entirely around the CEO. In fact it's great how the CEO and his team are more or less doing their own things, since I like yuri and there's plenty of it to be had in Kanpani despite an ostensibly male protagonist.

Tiny loli body helps too... oh wait, there are no lolis on Nutaku. There have never been lolis in Nutaku. The past was alterable. The past never had been altered.

>>14631218
Damn, that's amazing. FKG devs actually sound like good devs,

>>14631223
I'm surprised Azamino didn't place.
Also no soldier. I thought Elmina would have good chances

>>14631047
They are replacing these old loli units that didn't got greenlit with "fine for Nutaku standards" units.

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>>14631231
The fancy thing is that, back in the day, the event girl in question was wailed on for having bad art. If only we'd known about these Nutaku exclusives back then.

Well anon, look at this girl, now back to SillyGirl. Now back at Calla, now back at SillyGirl. Sadly, she isn't Calla, but if Nutaku stopped hiring complete idiots to smear their shit all over its games, even your 'bad' art would be like Calla, instead of some Lovecraftian horror with a sausage dog torso and a mouth that looks like it's going to telescope towards you like a goddamn goblin shark.

Jesus, small wonder FKG devs want nothing to do with Nutaku.

>>14631289
>instead of some Lovecraftian horror with a sausage dog torso and a mouth that looks like it's going to telescope towards you like a goddamn goblin shark.
What the...?

>>14631259
Azamino maybe the main reason why there is no love for ronins due to how fragile she is at the start of the game, which brings bad reputation for the whole class.

>>14631289
That "bad" art makes the Nutaku exclusives look like they were drawn by a blind meth addict.

Fuck. Can't say I blame the FKG devs for not wanting anything to do with Nutaku, shame though - they'd overtake Aigis if they even gave the smallest damn about the players.

>>14631289
>>14631301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh_HUIJkRzU

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>>14631301
Well, how else would you describe this abomination?

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>>14631322
delete this

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>>14631322
Unfuckable - uninspired - disgusting - generic ginger girl

>>14631259
Romina best soldier.

>>14631333
But you haven't even met her two sisters (and her mom, aunt? can't recall) that looks identical to her, but they are actually futas that only exist for incest porn!
Not even joking.

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>>14631352
What... please no... You're joking right? RIGHT?

>>14631352
Fucking degenerates.

>>14631230
did nutaku has explained the reasons behind this insane loli censorship?

>>14631352
>>14631364
Come on now, you shouldn't be caring about what sort of nonsense Sinnergate draws for himself. This is /jp/, we are in no position to judge others for degeneracy.

Trying to add this bullshit to a decent game is where the line is crossed. But hey, let's hope that Nutaku learned its lesson and will fuck things up in entirely new directions from now on.

>>14631386
>Trying to add this bullshit to a decent game is where the line is crossed.

So it is perfectly fine to add it to pero then.

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>>14631386
You're right. We're all degenerates. But some do it better than others, anon.

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>>14631386
You're right... But I still want to vote if they'll try to add this shit before the DMM characters they cut.

>>14631384
The insane loli censorship may no longer exist, their most recent comment was "we somehow convinced our payment processors to accept loli characters, on the condition that we never actually call them lolis. We will now pretend that Nutaku never had lolis while trying our best to implement as many of these lolis as possible."

This is, of course, bloody hilarious. Nutaku is an okay company sometimes.

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>>14631420
That because: Lolis = underaged girls
They can place wathever they want if they say "these are not lolis and 18+!".
That's bullshit but seems to works and that's fine for me.

>>14631420
>That argument
It's just laughable. But It's weird to say that they tried really hard to implement loli characters. Can't you just say that if they add all the characters and never call them lolis and say they're 18+ (like ALL the hentai games out there) they'll earn more?

>>14631428
Everytime i think about Nenya and that other loli Valkyrie i see some them replaced by some shitty Sillygirl like unit, true horror.

>>14631439
loli Valkyrie?

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>>14631446
RIP

>>14631322
I wonder how they would react of less than 10% of their million users redeemed this code.

>>14631454
Is her and that wizard the only cut characters from Nutaku due to being loli?

>>14631464
To tell the truth... If she was strong, or even stronger than my normal characters I would use the code.

>>14631473
No there's more, like the dwarf girl.

>>14631473
No
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Unimplemented_Content

>>14631473
But isn't Peropero seduction a slots game?

>>14631480
>Yurina
All my fucking hate.

>>14631480
>16 units
Really? Jesus, so many.

>>14631480
>No claire
Why even live, nutaku?

Claire is the staple go-to archer. You guys literally have no gold archer of any worth.

>>14631539
it's a literal lolicaust
muh shoah

>>14631544
Yeah, and we JUST had the first GR which would have given us Claire and Bella
They were replaced by Stray and Julian

>>14631143
Wow, I'd be so annoyed if I used her

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Leaked blueprints of Nutaku - exclusive unit.

>>14631657
Woooow I'll take 10. Where do I put them moneys?

>>14631657
And that's not even her final form

>>14631657
Still more effort than ballooning everything with photoshop.

>>14631420
>yfw when those at nutaku probably had to deal with some SJW beast of mythological tier

now I finally get the humors on these pages

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>>14631657

>>14631544
Does it really matter when there are Bashira and Spica?

>>14631657
Is she not in nutaku?

>>14631657
>No tiny eyes

>>14632201
ugh
forgot that was even a thing

>>14632216
Her tiny slanted crown is too childish too.

Change it with a more mature accessory like sunglasses or a fedora.

>>14631544
Stray is not too bad when we need a third archer, its rare you need 3 though.
Its hard enough finding a place where you need 2 archers, still everyone has both Spica and Bashira.

>>14630894
I'm in the same boat, anon.

I want to drop money to try and get a 5* or two, but I only have an empty level 15 PR building, and I don't really want to roll during Judita rate up. I've seen a few videos of mass rolling on Nico and Youtube, and I don't think 5*s are as rare as you think, but I don't think I have the luck to pull one either. Hard choice.

Not sure if the empty level 15 PR building is a big deal though, I sincerely doubt it affects rates by much. Still not sure if I should risk getting a Judita when I want Aderina or Elmina. Shame I don't have a gold postbox or I might just go for it.

>>14632258
Bashira, Spica, Daniela, there you have 3, yup Daniela is always far better than slow shooting, bad damage Stray.

>>14632710
Daniela is even worse than Soma as Daniela's skill is almost newer used or needed to make it or break it

>>14632725
I don't know about that. I've seen Daniela's attack power and added skill make or break completing some story maps. Substituting with Soma or Fuuka just didn't cut it either power wise or cost wise.

>>14632694
I seriously hope devs take notice of WHY Granblue has become so popular, and successful.

>>14632873
Sexualized lolis? Lying about gacha rates and scamming people for thousands dollars?

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I hope Nutaku wasn't planning on making this a thing.

>>14632900
You got it. Sexualized lolis are a must.

The issue with the gacha rates is hilarious, because the rates were still far better than anything in other mobage or DMM games. The start dash program was also genius.

damn

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>>14632992
forgot pic

>>14630895
look at big bang empire, i hate just seeing that terrible art in the game menu

>>14631428
she has larger breasts in her scenes though

>>14633266
Only in her first scene. In the second one she is about as flat as they come.

>>14633272
cool, i'll cc her next

>rank 216
Damn Osawari!
In part one that many points was enough for rank 150 something. And this was the second least popular girl. I tried to expand and place my points wider this time since I had so much leeway in part 1. And now I fucked myself out of getting any girl whatsoever.
Asahi was cute too. And what's more, I would have needed her just to expand my team set-up since it's really not up to par.

Ninja Army of Darkness" begins
Just another shitty event

>>14632956
>Nutaku like Nisa with Neptunia

They could get even worse.

Got the mouse twins.

>first scene, barely has noticeable boobjob
>second scene, completely untouched

... Wow. I can actually fap to this.

>>14634010
Well, another break.
Is this ninja has same skill as Saki? If yes then it isn't that bad

>>14634010
Rip plat pirate beatrika.

January 19, 2016 (Tue) 2AM ~ January 19, 2016 (Tue) 5AM (EST) (Estimated Completion Time)

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Maintenance Details
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Limited Time Event
- The Urgent Mission "Ninja Army of Darkness" begins

Other Changes
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Another post-awakening event without Awakening and still no Yurina, Nutaku is going to skip all the BK, isn't?
Such a bullshit.

>>14634043
Looks like the same as Saki skill, and pre CC too.

>19日(火)午前4時より1周年記念のログインボーナスキャンペーンを開催致します。
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Oh dear, a 5* ticket. Time for everyone but me to get rainbows again.

Still, there will be flower stones too and I'm already at 60, should be able to get 100+ by Valentine's and spend them on whomever's the cutest in Sunday's preview.

>>14634101
Can't wait for more Gerbera.

>>14634053
Any special difficulties to expect with this event? Is this a star trial, item collection or drop event?

>>14634128
drop

>>14634128
Another farm event, a plat Ninja.
Her skill makes her dodge attacks and can instakill.
Her passive awakening makes her normal attacks instakill sometimes.
Nothing special but still better than nothing if you don't have Saki.

>>14633947

Yeah I fucked up too. In terms of stamina refil, $3 = 1000 EP assuming you had 180 stamina. I was willing to put down $3 to get in top 200 for one girl, but I didn't think through and picked the wrong girl to back. I was not willing to put down $10.

>>14634128
Farm her, get Saki and feed her, that is her true use.

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>>14631480
>we were already supposed to get Chloe
>LITERALLY no excuse whatsoever for us not to have Bella, Claire, Hein, Kagerou, Kagura, Minerva, Mischa, Moldevort, or Yurina
>Dorothy
>not literally a dwarf
>Noel
>implying elves aren't naturally petite
>implying a female without cowtits must necessarily be a loli
>mfw

>>14634053
Gotta be fucking kidding me. STILL no awakening?

Fucking useless piece of shit devs.

>>14632725
>Daniela's skill is almost newer used
Hahahaha have you been playing the past events before the Goku one? Daniela was great, in any event you can deploy her (the other two archers taking priority for the average player), the answer is obvious, seriously you need to get more in the game, she is below Misha for cost/use.

>>14634535
>>14634543
That why you play superior version on DMM. The sooner you switch, the better

>>14634543
It'll come when it comes, I really don't care about it since we've had no need of it yet, all it'll do is make the easy G maps easier.

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>>14632725
>Daniela is even worse than Soma
>worse than Soma

>>14634553
I'd rather not, I have a decent amount of summoned blacks on Nutaku.

Daniela's ugly, I'd rather use Monica over Daniela or another 3rd archer, Half the time Monica's in the team anyways

>>14634563
Pirates suck compared to archers.
Monica gets good only with her skill AW

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>>14632725
As far as i like Soma she is not better than Daniela.
Sure she is useful for that increase range skill but that's all.
Daniela can be easily used paired with Bashira until getting something better (Spica and Nanaly) and even in that case she get used because of her low UC.
Sorry but no, you are wrong.

First run of Judita's character story and got the recipe already.

>>14634568
Chances are, if Spica/Bashira aren't enough dps then Monica isn't bad thanks to her far better skill than Daniela, then theres the whole can you fit 3 archers in one place over 2 and a pirate.
On top of that theres the occasional bring 3 archers and a nonused pirate vs bring 2 archers and a pirate.

I've never had a problem replacing gold archers with Monica as a 3rd ranged physical dps in the vidoes I've seen despite pirates not being as good as archers.

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>>14634586
It's time to beat the game final boss.

>>14634614
lol yeah, trying to farm for branches, just getting the cloth so far though

>>14634553
Nutaku will bring Mel over, r-right?

Man, I don't even know what's going on with Osawari these days.

On the one hand, they still have bullshit compliance standards. Tentacles become plants, mouse twins get different hair color to avoid incestual tones despite clearly saying they are sisters and have more little sisters, etc.

On the other hand, they're stealthing "lolis" (or at least DFC) into the gacha by not adding them on the event banner, but still adding them to the pool.

>>14634728
>Tentacles become plants
>twins get different hair color to avoid incestual tones
You gotta be fucking kidding me anon, tell me that's a joke, please.
That game is getting butchered more and more at every patch.

>>14634728
I think they lost it sometime after they censored a sword.

I wouldn't really consider playing Osawari, but I think I actually prefer the Nutaku version because it's an entertaining cash grab instead of being the plain old cash grab that DMM Osawari was.

>>14634739
Tentacle plants was a thing since day 1 of Osawari. It's even the case in Pero. Probably LoV too, I forget.

I'm guessing it counts as bestiality or something.