General Nutaku Thread 73

>>14579783

Confirm horse face bug. But I can give out chocolate just fine.

>>14579915
If you got Kerry and Cypria from the premium rolls, Cypria is worst plat and you'll get another at level 30, Kerry is the old first shrine pull, not too bad a physical duelist, most people hate getting Liana too due to the fact she's supposed to be an event unit.
Sybilla is an amazing roll though, Kerry and Liana will be great for you though.

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>>14579915
fugg, even better than mine (Mikoto + Berna)

>>14579945
A free Cypria later, huh? At least she's been pretty useful in the meantime. Should I combine them to try to reduce her cost once I get the second? I know the beginner guides said to save all my silvers for class changing but I don't know if that applies to golds/platinums.

Does anyone knows if the next event for aigis is already known? the gold rush already left me with no stamina to spare to farm affection items, i would like to know if i have a farming chance before i have to spend them all again.

>>14579954
Not really, Sybilla's just a amazing duelist, but there are several of them, Mikoto is very unique and useful.

>>14579986
>>14579997
Combining golds/plats/blacks is only okay if their skills don't change after CC
use three fairies (iron, copper, any rarity is fine) when you do it for that sweet sweet XP bonus

>>14579997
There is another week of gold rush. We won't know what's next until probably night gold rush ends.

>>14580018
Forgot to remove second one

>>14579986
Cyprias Skill changes so ideally you should wait till she's CC, HOWEVER cypria herself isn't really worth it, so you could level her up to 10 or 20 then combine her with 3 plat fairys for CR and 5000-8000 exp (no SU).

No second skill up on fedora but did get a cr, so at -2 now for her.

>>14580018
>>14580033
I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the info. Mostly just trying not to make any horrible irreversible mistakes while I'm figuring out how things work.

>>14579986
Platinums and blacks cannot be used for anything (cept SU/CR) but golds can be used for awakening, its generally not worth it unless you have mincost golds.

>>14580030
fuck the police

>>14579933
>But I can give out chocolate just fine.
I really hope they fix it soon. Because I really can't. I have tried countless of times now but it always gets stuck on "Now Loading...".

But could you like, take a screenshot or something so that I could at the very least see what treats the girls prefer and their rankings?

>>14580033
Her skill doesn't change.

>>14580320
Oh god, you're right, I just assumed since she had assasinate 2 it would turn into 3 since she's plat.
Well I've got a Cypria to level to 20 with another waiting at 41 now, thats another unit CC for me then.

>>14580391
Yeah, Cypria's one of the few with numbered skills that don't change

Soldiers
Cypria
Belinda
Rowanna
Asami (event plat ninja)
Plat alchemist with range up

Everyone else so far with numbered skills get a skill change on CC, it's going to be a huge pain maxing those plat units skills. I guess dmm players just use rainbow fairies for those ones?

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>>14580292

Note the 'show ranking' tables still use the 1st half avatars so it hard to tell who is where.

>>14580592
>twins in the lead by a mile

Yep, saw that coming.

>>14580592
I wonder if it's even any idea to pine for Kimi & Nimi.
I am guessing they are going to take the lead by even larger margins than what we saw in the first round.

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Thank you for the skillup, Fedora is looking great.

>>14578291
Thanks for the input. I don't have Noel (since this is Nutaku Aigis, sorry for not mentioning it originally)　and probably will never have her, so I guess I'll get to work on Marius.

Drop boost with no event for next week on JP Aigis.
Finally, gotta grind orbs, DC and affection items like theres no tomorrow.

>>14581830
>drop boost
never on nutaku

I have 440 yellow crystals. How many copies of Memento should I buy? I just have one copy currently.

>>14581957
You get 2 guaranteed cost reduces while revival event lasts, so would make sense to get these.

>>14581972
Could get two more copies... Her skill is quite important to her usefulness right?

>>14580063
Even then, save gold units for rainbow crystals instead.

>>14581972
Where does it say that cost reduction chance is doubled?

>>14582081
Skill is much easier to level with skill fairies dropping from her event maps.
Also no, skill doesn't matter, since most of the time you would use tokens against enemies who kill them with first hit even with buff.
>>14582141
At banner at "revival" tab.

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>>14582141

Played JP Aigis from other PC and noticed that now when you log in on DMM, it says gaijin are allowed to play online games while few months ago that table said gaijins can only use shitty language-study chat.
I wonder what made them change their minds

20 runs of that golem GR map, and still 0 alchemist drops. They could at least have first drop at higher chance, this is unbearable.

Any indications as to what their next game will be?

>>14582393
Actually it would be better if dmm was hosting these games in English rather than leaving it to third party butaku

I hate that fucking Dragon King, daily runs wasting my stamina into that map and nothing, i really want Bernice.

Grinding out the first jp gold rush mission for an eliza, no luck at all. Can't even ryuryu because that tin can wont drop.

>>14583130
Would be easier to buy Ryry from TP with that 1.5 drop buff next week.

>>14583130
>>14583150
The magical complaint worked, got tin can. True about TP, but I'm mainly trying it for Eliza, gotta spend next week grinding for Chydis anyway, best healers atm are just fedora and gold Iris

>>14580592
Wait, am I seeing wrong or do those twins actually look kind of loli. Did they actually slip through somehow.

>>14583150
Got her with my last bit of stamina after the level 101 refresh

>>14583291
there are no lolis on any nutaku hosted games and there will not be

Ever since after Strong enemies, every map always drop everything except the gold fairy and i even 3 star them.

I wish it was like the first 3 maps when i collected the gold units the same day they came up.

RNG is a bitch.

i got "lucky" fortune twice in a row
baby, please kill me

>>14583291

The twins are an example of 'wider variety'. There is no "loli" in any Nutaku game.

>>14584479
So those two girls in PeroPero and LoV are also not "loli"?

>>14584835
They probably think that loli just means underage girl, or just joking around about what Nutaku said in that ULMF thread.

>>14584835
Nutaku will never officially recognize any character as a loli due to legal reasons and issues with their payment processors.

>>14584855
It's not about recognizing, it's about how those two avoided ANY editing that Nutaku is highly prone to doing to anything that looks like a loli.

>>14584835
Go away, NSA-kun. There're no loli on Nutaku

>>14584865
That's the point they don't want to edit it and there reasoning is that it isn't loli, even if it is. It's why they said that you can ask for loli character's specifically but you can't just say "more loli characters". Mums the word on loli.

>>14583291
>>14584835
>>14584855
>>14584853
>>14584865
There isn't lolis on any games hosted by nutaku

>>14584835

Correct. They are not "loli". No character on Nutaku games are "loli". Therefore do not describe any of them as "loli" or similar terms.

>>14584853

Incidentally, they also posted on harem-battle.club. A second post in that thread explained their difficulty with replacing payment processors.

>>14584855
The legal reasons are a joke but the payment processor bit makes sense.

I could see a lot of major reliable processors saying no to any whiff of CP, legitimate or not.

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>>14584892
How should i call her? Because Nutaku is like a different dimension with their own words.

At side for jokes, i understand why they did it, still everytime i see a "NOT A LOLI I SWEAR!" character i get an headache.
What i hate the most is how every game is getting their... not-loli but Aigis, that's plain bullshit.

Still makes you wonder how MangaGamer and JAST got away with localizing Imouto Paradise, Littlewitch Romanesque, Sweet Sweat in Summer, and so on.

>>14584907
Why are legal reasons a joke ? In my country loli hentai is illegal.

>>14584865
It is about recognizing. Nutaku might make some (well okay, many) retarded decisions, but they probably don't care about what gets to be in their games as long as they get money out of it. But in order to get money, they have to convince a bunch of morons (payment agencies) that their characters aren't underage. Being morons, these people don't understand that "loli" doesn't mean "underage", so they have to make this ridiculous claim that their games don't have lolis, although they very obviously do.

It's basically a kind of doublethink where you need to convince payment processors to approve lolis without actually thinking about them as lolis, which leads to ridiculous comments like "we've always been at war with Easta... I mean, there were never any lolis in Nutaku games".

I still don't have all the drops from the fucking first map. Holy shit.

>>14584912
Nutaku said that most of the loli characters in Aigis have been approved but we still don't have them.
It's just the devs using it as an excuse for being lazy at this point.

>>14584922
Because what applies to your country doesn't apply to every country.

And if you live in a shitty country that criminalizes fantasy and enforces blocks on such then you should move. Or vote in people who aren't fucking morons and wasting your tax dollars on literally nothing.

>>14584935
Probably, feels bd because the loli units are overall the most useful in Aigis, the silver witch and valkyrie are makes some missions harder than should be (like War of Magic).
I just hope to see their remplace soon and not to see something like that "Sillygirl".

>>14584912
>>14584930
>>14584935
>>14584965
go and see what general mass of people thinks lolicon and lolis are and try to think why it is shunned by majority. There is reason why monetary systems are so afraid of lolis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon
There is not lilis on nutaku hosted games

>>14584912
> How should i call her?

Specific character names are best. But if a descriptive term is required, something like "protege of gentlemen" which will escape a 'casual censor'.

>>14584961
Whether my country is shit or not is irrelevant. It's illegal, and i'm sure Nutaku don't want their website to get banned from multiples countries in the world because of some loli porn.
Aren't Nutaku Irish ? In most european countries the law is very ambiguous about loli hentai, and in some of them it's completely illegal.

>>14584983
and here is link to discussion about it. Read it for couple of pages to get picture
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860&page=949

>>14584983
>There is not lilis on nutaku hosted games
I still don't understand how they decide if a girl is underage or not, it's like they got an identity card or something.
Wathever anyway, the word "loli" is one of those that "lost" the initial meaning and become something "bigger", try to explain it if you can.

>>14584987
>"protege of gentlemen"
Ok, thank you "gentleman".

>>14585004
>Aren't Nutaku Irish ?
Wasn't Nutaku Canadian?

>>14585014
So what I'm getting from that is that they can add all the loli characters they want as long as they actually use the word loli anywhere to avoid triggering the people that handle their payments..

>>14585033
as long as they dont actually use**

>>14585015
>Wasn't Nutaku Canadian?
I don't know i saw someone say Nutaku was based in Ireland but maybe they were wrong.

>>14585015
Yes loli and lolicon is misunderstood by majority and that is why even that wikipedia link is misinforming. So when some one says something is loli and does not know what it is and looks it up he will end up conclusion that it is drawn erotism of underage girls. So nutaku informed that there are no lolis is correct way to treat general mass it is called PR and does anyone know those characters real age?

>>14585049
They're incorporated in Ireland but that's just so they can dodge taxes.

It's a common business tactic.

>>14585033
that is correct

>>14585033
It's like how doujins used to have that "All characters in this game are all over the age of 18." disclaimers even when most of them were clearly 16 at the oldest.

>>14585069
>does anyone know those characters real age?
That's what i mean, oh well, they probably use some kind of "magic"

>>14584912
Looks like an adult lady to me.

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Just got this from the "Lucky" event map. I guess these maps are not that bad after all.

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>>14585139

>>14585148
That hammer works the same way as that "crafting hammer" right? Nothing more about it or am i missing something else?

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So when exactly do I lose them?
Is this my last day, or do I have one more?

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Calla revival really makes me glad that FKG devs no longer hire Satan to design their maps. A dozen tries at this and I've yet to 3-medal it, damn.

I can't imagine how much bullshit it would be to tackle it with locked teams. Good thing they were nice enough to remove that mechanic right away and sensible enough to never reimplement it.

No daily gift on Kanpani. Sad day.

>>14584935
Show proof of that or it's a made up bulshit.

Here is my card to call you a liar:

When will Aigis get loli characters? Every other game is getting loli characters but Aigis keeps being censored. Long overdue for an update on this topic.

Aigis will not be getting any loli characters.

2 days ago in ask.fm/NutakuDev

>>14585510
All that shows is what people have been saying in that they won't call loli characters loli. Shiho is an example of that.

>>14584906
> A second post in that thread explained their difficulty with replacing payment processors.
Link? Can't find any nutaku posts there.

>>14585568
http://harem-battle.club/general-discussion/666-removed-facebook-posts-5.html

>>14585510
>Here is my card to call you a liar:
He's just citing what nutaku said,
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?p=775649#post775649
There was also some other post citing PM from Nutaku going in more depth regarding it, but I'm too lazy to find it.

>>14585579
Ah, just usual bullshittery without any facts. This is not "explaining", this is typical damage control and FUD.
They keep dodging simple question: why probiller instead EC-Gate. Saying "there are few" doesn't answer anything. There are few, but at least one is known for certain to not care about lolis.

>>14585316
I did it for fun with the supposedly-usable teams and managed fairly okay. Originally, I think I was luckier with this one than another with an encounter immediately behind a double random arrow at the top.

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Rolled for Daria, got her instead.
Not bad, I guess, I like her design and nice stats/ability.

why do i even buy premium summons in aegis.... well, i have 5 more silvers

Does anyone have already a strategy to 3 star Knight's Feast with bronze units/non-maxed CC silver units?

I've been trying using maxed bronze soldiers but they still die way too quickly.

>>14585824
Just work on leveling archers and witches, and maybe a heavy/healer combo if you need to. You still have a week.

>>14585836
archers and witches pretty good at killing most maps?

>>14585850
Archers are definitely most useful class in the game.

>>14585836
I'm probably will have to settle with leveling up Daniela, was thinking of CCing Bashira but that may be too expensive to do it under a week.

>>14585824
Place Katie in the middle row second column from left
then place Prince-kun above her in the first row
something like that
I swear I did this at least once with no CC'd units

>>14585824
Your bronze soldiers should last long enough for Katie or Phylis's reinforcement skill to pop. Use it then replace said bronzes with a stronger unit or healer.

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Can anyone suggest which event missions I'll be able to clear?

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>>14586173
I tried these so far, bottom one wasn't that bad. Second one I couldn't kill the lich and the armor one just walked through everything I had.

>>14586173
>>14586178
wat level is you're dood
don't even try Armored March, you need super witches
Death and the Holy Women is doable at very low levels with a Princess and a couple mages and healers
Rain of Arrows is easy
Devils of the Sky is a little easier than it looks
Magic Corps needs good anti-armor and your Thetis and healers aren't high enough level
Knights' Feast and Bandit Exodus will fuck you in the butt

>>14586173
>>14586178
Not sure if this is good advice but if you started recently(like two or three days ago) i think it's better to forget about events for now and focus on level up yourself and your units and at least have 2-3 CC units to be ready for the next event.

>>14586193
Level 18, I'll try rain of arrows.

>>14586210
Yeah but I'm stuck on story mission and this disappears soon so I thought I'd at least try.

>>14586231
Don't listen to him. GR is great chance to get essential golds and its easy as fuck. Following events will be much much harder.
Your minimal goal for GR should be: Bernice (she's best free HA, better than event plats), Cuterie (aff drop bonus is important), Iris, Fedora.
Spend some SC on powerlevelling if you can't clear them, but you should be okayish if you raise witch in addition to your Bashira.

>>14585579
Operation Choke Point was already neutered over 2 years ago though.

>>14586248
>Easy as fuck
Only a couple of them are ridiculously easy, the mayority will ask for some decently leveled units or even CCs from you.

For example, this guy will no way in hell get Bernice with these units, those Dragons are simply way too strong for him.

>>14586271
I've killed all dragons with just Spica and Bashira and without using their skills. I'm sure he could do it with Bashira + her skill and melee fodder to stall/distract mage and king.

>>14586248
Barblestroke

>>14586271
I got 3* on Bernice's map at level 30-something
rolling Themis made it easy
but Thetis could work, theoretically
I might be able to make a weebum of my strategy

>>14586271
He doesn't need to 3* it. Like others said, a competent Bashira and a ton of melee fodder should eventually make work of those dragons.

Failing that, there's always the ranged buff blessing.

>>14585788
Congrats. I still prefer vanilla Tsubaki's abilities and skill, but that wedding dress really is something else.

The Dahlia/Katabami/Ionocidium gacha is tempting, but I think I'll save my crystals until the Valentine's event. I should get two rolls by then, and if I have any luck the inevitable Cacao girl will be a delicious brown chocolatier onee-san, maybe even with these fly pests as assistants (the cacao tree has tiny flowers that can only be pollinated by equally tiny midges, so we owe all the chocolate in the world to flies).

But then my luck will have run out and she'll end up being a rainbow that I won't be getting until the next ticket promotion.

Are you all ready for the new Valkyrie meta? Global -4 cost on Valkyries in exchange for a slight attack and HP decrease (50CC50 loses 20 attack and 64 HP in exchange for costing 4 less).

>>14586734
50CC50 Misha*
This is DMM btw

>>14586734
that's a buff

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>>14586734
Holy fuck.

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>>14586734
>Global -4 cost o

They buffed Flan hp and def even further. I so regret not grinding her during GR, announce such things earlier, aigis, this is not fair.

These buff waves are amazing. Olivier getting longer duration each time she uses her skill is interesting.

memento is 100 gold stones now
wtf i could have afforded 2 if i would have waited

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>>14586766
Speaking of her.

>>14586811
it changes to 100 after you buy the first one

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Friggin whales and their crazy units.

>>14586814
oh shit, i am retarded

>>14586816
I know the bow rider black can reduce horse units cost, but christ

>>14586173
I'm pretty sure you'd be able to do Lady Bandits, but I forgot my silly 3-star tactics (I'm new and my units aren't too strong) so I can't give you any advice at the moment.

>>14586178
Try deploying Katie -> 2 healers -> Bashira -> 3rd healer -> more archers to the middle row to remove the fodder. Then replace archers with mages and witches and the lich should easily die.

>>14586816
So what the point of rogues

>>14586839
They function well as semen demons.

>>14586829
yeah Band of Lady Thieves is a little tricky until you master the pattern
gotta have at least two Heavy Armors if you are low level
Place Katie first at bottom left, then Soldier at second from top left and another soldier to the left of that one
then add the archer, healer, and swap out the soldiers for armors

>>14586839
They just got a buff too!

>>14586846
what all changes happened? are there change logs?

>>14586856
it's on ulmf.

they just got -1 cost

>>14586846
>-1 cost
What a great buff

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>>14586856
>are there change logs?
Right in the game itself.

>>14586866
the only thing in that pic that i can read is unit

>>14586859
that's a lot when your cost is so low

to buff heavy armors that much they'd have to do like -4 cost

>>14586859
This: >>14586888
This would make a fully leveled non CC'd Silver Rogue cost 3 at a minimum. Lower than a min cost Bronze Soldier. And CC'd they would be 5.
Early game, that one point means a lot of some maps.

Gonna get 2 Chydis's from TP this week, one for CR. Are the others in the TP worth grinding for?

>>14587193
Lulu maybe? She's like the gold equivalent of Nenya. Even has the same skill. If you got her during the gold rush, you can get another for CR.

>>14587193
I'll probably save up for Spica's inevitable return, only have silver archers atm

>>14587279
Between Yuyu, Lulu, Cloris, Belinda, and Eliza, which 2 should I raise? Just got all of them the last 2 weeks and I dont have any CC'd witches above silver yet. Belinda and Yuyu are CR-1.

>>14587332
Belinda > Yuyu > Eriza > Cloris > Ryry

>>14587332
I'd go with Belinda when it comes to Plat witches. Especially since Eliza isnt' even CR'd by 2.
,
As for Gold. Cloris' awakening is nice but depends on chance, Lulu's Reduces her range for faster DPS Which sounds both horrible but nice depending on how fast she's casting. Yuyu reduces her cost by -1.
Yuyu also has the advantage of being the biggest damage dealer among the three, but in exchange her HP is Shit. Like over a 300 difference between her and Lulu and Cloris.

In the end, I'd probably still go for Yuyu or rather Belinda because of their range skill. Slowing down enemies from farther away just seems better over all. You should probably considering raising another witch anyway. Especially if you are raising Belinda with only CR-1 But that's just me.

>>14587353
Why is the loli at the bottom? She seems much better than Cloris. Eliza is really good if you farm her cost and skill level up, too, pretty sure she can get better than Yuyu.

Witch skill awakening when?

>>14587397
Ryry gets range penalty when AWed, which makes her very hard to use. And her base damage is very low, only few points higher than Nenya.

Black Iris on premium gatcha for iOS

>>14587332
>>14587353
>>14587395
>>14587397
>>14587399
Op just rolled Despara right after posting that. I guess Despara and Belinda now?

Flower Knight Girl question. So with these golds I rolled from premium gatcha, how do I unlock more equipment slots? Just roll a duplicate (which probably will never occur) or do those gold skill up flowers that you can purchase eventually open equipment slots after you max their skill?
Thanks ahead of time.

>>14587441
Yes.
>>14587468
Only dupes from gacha. Shop flowers are only for skills.
But equipment doesn't really matter, so its not big issue.

>>14587399
It's a shame she got the short end of the stick but that still doesn't stop me from using her as my main witch. Cuteness is justice.

So this Death and Holy Maidens mission, do I need to kill Death to get the last drop to complete it? I've got the two fairies.

>>14587712
No, all 3 fairies drop from healers. Check map descriptions, they are very clear.

>>14587727
I must have terrible luck then, 14 runs of this so far and still missing that first one.

>>14587744
25+ runs and still can't get the gold fairy.

CC50 Nenya 367 atk * 30fps/56fperatk = 194.5 dps
AW max Cloris 453 * 30/58 = 234.3
AW max Kurisumasu wtch 474 * 30/49 = 290.2
AW max Halloween wtch 535 * 30/56 = 286.6
AW max Belinda 533 * 30/58 = 275.7

>>14587752
Are there any of the other missions that are relatively easy with better drop rates? I recently came back after stopping way back on release and my team is really weak.

>>14587764
Eliza: 547 *30/58 = 282.9
Despia: 615 * 30/49 = 376.5

>>14587773
I'm a new player, managed to 3-star:
Rain of Arrows
Hunter's Forest
Band of Lady Thieves
From my experience, drop rates are horrible regardless of mission.

>>14587752
I'm actually worried now, I've done more runs than i can count since strong enemies was out, and i still need that gold fairy for Bernice.

>>14587764
You forgot 7% buff for Belinda.
533 * 1.07 * 0.52 = 296.5

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>>14587802
I guess this was my lucky post, the moment i post and try again i got my Bernice.

>>14587815
Happens a lot, even I've had it happen. Curse your bad luck on here and usually that causes it to go away (sometimes).

>>14587821
It really makes wonders, after getting Bernice i was able to get fedora as well and drop the gold fairy for magic corps.

Praying to the RNG goddess may not work but cursing your bad luck in here seems to do it.

>>14587764
>>14587793
I hope they all have the same power slow or that would be badly skewed.

I really hope noone is stupid enough to compare dps for witches with other classes too.

>>14587850
Faster shooting == better slowing.

Anyone has tips for the last gold rush map? that blob of axe armors always breaks through and i don't have two CC max level heavy armors to hold them.

>>14587875
No, I'm talking about different powers of slow, my Mikoto slows things down more with 1 attack than my Belinda does with 1 attack, Mikoto is not a witch though so its to be expected she has a different slow.
If a witch with less dps or attack speed had a better slow she could easily do more total damage.

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>>14587815
It just happens. >>14587752 here.

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>>14587815
>>14587898

FUCK BOTH OF YOU. 5 DAYS NOW IN IRON FAIRY FOR MY BERNICE AND I CAN'T GET HER!!!

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>>14587815
>>14587898
>>14587920
in the meantime i struggle with the iron fairy... send help...

>>14587920
throw your magnets away it won't attract gold and silver

>>14588029
Its copper. And it seems all your copper fairies went my way, got over 25 of them while still 0 golds.

>>14588037
I TRADE YOU!!!

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newfag-kun reporting in. Any advice on how to invest Bonus Points on the Valkyrie game?

>>14588104
Read the OP next time. You would've seen a wiki link. Following it, would show you a page with another link that said GUIDE in big letters. In that guide, the first question asked is "Where should I put my Status Points into first?"
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Status_Points

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>>14587880
I use Katie, Prince, 2 healers and 2 mages, not need to use HA.
In this order:
Katie at D
Prince at I
Healer 1 at T
Mage 1 at S
Mage 2 at V
Healer 2 at Q

As a future reference, nearly all the instaces of this map can be finished the same way.

>>14588292
What level should those units be? i am not that veteran to have all of my units maxed like those guys in the guides do.

>>14588292
>>14588347
this only works if you have a CC mage at V

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Hey, is this Bernice? I didn't recognise her at first, but that kinda looks like her helmet.
I got her from the Gacha ages ago, but I never paid any great amount of attention to her before. I never expected her to be all that cute.

>>14588678
Yeah it's her

So, we'll never get Aigis in iOS outside of Japan?

What should I do if I'm flooded with spirits and it's nowhere near Monday (thus being able to get the exp armor).

>>14588987
You buy more space.

>>14588987
what type? if it's gold and under just use 1 or 2 with bronze units to get more exp out of em. If plat, well same thing but only if you are bursting at the seams with them.

>>14588995
Thanks they're mostly iron.

>>14589003
Use them.

sweet got Betty
dunno what she's even good for
only one I don't have from GR is Barblestroke
and I already have three of him from fucking gacha

>Pirate: All Class Intervals Between Attacks Shortened

Does that change Monica AW skill in any way? I guess not, but still pretty good buff i guess.

After the lat DMM patch, what's the point to place a Rogue over a Valkyrie?

>>14589265
When it's time to pray to RNG to Assassinate. Which usually only noobs do to cheese early maps to get to better farming spots. There was that one Angel Gold Rush map though where it was basically impossible to win any other way unless you spammed AW Blacks.

>>14589306
So... never?

>>14589003
>>14589049
Iron/Copper and other seemingly useless fairies are actually really good whenever you are combining something of medium exp value, most notably when min costing a unit during drop events. If you farm 3 copies of the unit and add a bronze fairy in the mix, the fairy is worth over 1000 exp each. Similarly good values if you combine 2 copies of the unit with 2 fairies. It makes levelling event units a whole lot easier because it's usually not worth using platinum fairies on that. So I found it quite helpful to keep a stash of iron/copper fairies around and I would only recommend burning them if you really need that space and can't afford to buy more slots.

I got the idea when I ended up with something like 40 or so copper fairies from farming an event map that happened to drop 3 per run as a byproduct of what I wanted. In retrospect, I actually regret not farming more of them when I had an easy chance to do so.

So all these Nutaku GR maps are staying around until the 12th?

>>14589386
Yup

>>14589395
o i am laffin at all the people that spent SC to grind the maps

>>14589419
But it's 1 scroll down and there you have the duration of this events... Where there idiots that wasted SC for this?

>>14587764
Is Halloween witch Yuyu?

>>14589437
ULMF and harem-battle.club threads

>>14589437
The people that can't read, these that are in a hurry to get everything at "day1". these that don't have time and these that don't know how to spend their money.
Probably missing some more.

I've spent so much SC on gacha during this GR and I didn't get any of the boosted units:

Plat:
1 Marr

Gold:
2 Fedora
1 Mehlis
1 Monica

Silver:
1 Lauren
1 Sanosuke
1 Valerie
1 Giovanni
1 Bernard

>>14589265
Lack of any good gold+ valkyries.

My 9 cost betty is significantly stronger than my mincost misha, as she's awakened and misha can't be. So the only options are a 11 cost kerry or 13 cost emilia, and emilia has poor stats without her skill.

>>14589557
Uhm, seems right.

>>14587892
Yes, awoken witches have a better slow, and some of them attack faster. This also doesn't take into account their skills, which not only tend to increase damage, but for Eliza they increase the slow strength as well.

>>14589265
dodge chance

>>14589636
is this loli?

>>14589682
There are no lolis on this board.

>>14589469
You got an amazing healer though, I'd say she's the best on nutaku right now.

>>14589738
K den
I'll try leveling her up, she's pretty weak now

>>14589747
She seems weak till she heals a entire 7+ group while they getting hit by mages and doesn't break a sweat.
She won't be much on the weaker maps but on the harder ones she'll be amazing, specially those with terrain effects.

>>14589773
All I've really used her for is Toxic Swamp 2, lol

>>14589682
There are no lolis in Eastasia. She is an adorable 18-year-old.

since Mischa is confirmed to have been greenlit, when do you think we'll actually get her?

>>14590022
Never.

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>>14588029
Is "The Final Trial" really the final trial?
I've beaten it, and completed the drop, which should mean that I'm done with the event for now.
And I quite liked it, I must say, even if completing the drop in the Strong Enemy battle gave me so much grief.

>>14590033
Yes, it's the last one

They all last until the 12th but if you're done then it's back to the dailies and waiting

>>14589738
>You got an amazing healer though, I'd say she's the best on nutaku right now.
who, Fedora?
(I'm afraid I don't recognise all of the names on anon's list).

>>14590022
>confirmed to have been greenlit
No, NutakuDev claimed that "we greenlit her but evil jap devs don't want to add her". Since there's no way to verify it with jap side, there's pretty high chance its just blame shifting and they didn't really greenlight anything.

>>14590067
Marr. She heals everyone in her attack radius at same time when her skill is on, and skill has very short reuse cooldown time.

>>14590067
I think he means Marr, the platinum Feng Shui master

>>14590067
Marr, the plat feng shui

>>14589738
>best
Nah
She's great called her best is stupid

>>14590086
who's better on nut taco?

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I wanna start crying... It's been 6-7 days now... I want one Iron fairy... I Only get those 2... I can't anymore... I just...

>>14590122
Don't worry your luck is probably going to turn around soon now

>>14590122
You can easily three-star that map every time with better tactics
iron fairy drops from the white minotaur on the bottom half, btw

>>14590128
>iron fairy drops from the white minotaur on the bottom half, btw
WHAT???

>>14590142
might explain your bad luck if you are letting him slip by
For 3*:
place Leanne to block the top one, Hero to block the bottom one
then Katie to block the goblins who leak past the Prince
cheap bronze soldier to catch the one goblin that leaks up top, withdraw
place two Healers in the 'island'

>>14590160
They told me that that dragon warrior and that lich drop the fairies... Not that white minotaur...

>>14590166
Lich drops silver
Dragon shield guy drops gold
but Iron Fairy comes from the first guy who takes the bottom route!

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>>14590171
>I was fighting 6 days with the wrong guys for the fairy
>Mfw

>>14590176
At least you still have several days to grind for correct enemy now.

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>>14590176
inb4 next one gives it.

>>14590176
this is why you should learn to 3* everything

>>14590086
Liana's overpriced, Camilla is great but not better, Chydis you could argue the toss and the golds aren't better either.

It depends on the situation. Marr didn't do shit with hard hitting enemies like lich king

Is it just me or DMM is having some network problems? Aigis and FKG not loading or throwing connection errors halfway.

>>14590640
Not just you, I'm having problems as well.

Still, DMM isn't Nutaku so it'll probably get fixed soon and we might be handed SCs/flower tokens to boot.

>>14590186
盾?

Is Cloris worth AW? I just got the orbs and already had materials for it though I'll have no gold after doing so. I also have two copies of Eriza.

>>14591057
Bernice protecting herself

When resumes appear on nutaku kampani? Want to use my event mailbox while it lasts.

>>14588889
I could code up an android client pretty easily it seems full touch controls work. All that I'd need to do is open a web browser to have you login to nutaku and pull out the iframe and size it to the screen. I don't have an iOS device though so you're out of luck there.

>>14579923
i actually just starting to play kanpani girls today, can you help me on what to do?

>>14591661
-Save crystals for space expansions in the facilities/unit space(default max is only 69) /bread aprons/extra party
-Raise a soldier/healer/3 others up to you
-iirc the equipment daily is tomorrow so do those for recipes
-When you craft equipment there's a very small chance of getting a +2/+3 version (feels like 2-5%), not too important early game but the last tier equips get huge stat boosts.
-If you have tons of silver/gold mailboxes, you can reject the daily resume, wait until just before the daily reset, and then use a mailbox so it'll be able to affect both resumes
-Rarer girls get better stats but don't let that prevent you from using your waifu
-You can CEO power cheese maps by using a power and then closing the window, and coming back in 50 or 100 mins (it recharges by 1 per min)
-There is no use for the silver coin/coin bag items other than selling, you can also sell the gems (ruby/turquiose/etc) for money early game, iirc 2-5 can drop rubies

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>>14590186
3 tries.

BUT I DID IT!!! SHE'S MINE!!

>>14591860
Now go grind for Cuterie, Fedora, Iris and Julian.

>>14591869
Now I'm trying for Fedora. I have no idea if I'm strong enough though.

>>14591886
You have about 40 unit points before a bunch of wolves show up with the first dragon, but if you aren't able to 3 star it for whatever reason, you only have to kill the 3 dragons for the drops

Christ, it's been so long since I last did the Aigis dailies that I think I've forgotten how to do them.

>>14591905
I only had enough stamina for 1 try. I can kill those 3 dragons easily. I can't 3 star it yet though. I need a couple of rounds before figuring where to put who. I got a silver fairy though.

>>14591927
it's hard not to let anything slip by on god tier crystal daily, that speed is pretty ridiculous

>>14591964
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27727887
This is probably the best I've seen for farming with AW thief.

>>14592182
I wonder if it would work with Bashira instead gold archer and cannon instead second gold pirate

>>14592182
Should be even easier now, pirates just got buffed. Not that you having a thief for it will help much this week.

>>14591860
>those tactics
you are bad at this game

>>14592215
He got his unit, that's all what matters.

>>14592200
Not sure about cannon but you can replace Vera with pretty much any AW archer that can 2-shot the gazers. Not Stray though, probably.

>>14592215
Or MAYBE he just started.

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>First run on the map
Why can't all be this perfect?

am i done with this event now?

>>14592215
or my units are barely strong to defeat stuff and I have to cheese it?

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>>14592215
Here, I 3-stared this.

Dragon Tactics, or Providence? Which one is better?

>「部活少女バトル」は、2015年8月10日(月) 15:00をもちまして、全てのサービスを終了させていただきました。
Dang, it's always sad when that happens. And I wanted to check back on it too, beyond the speed issues it was actually a fun little Worms clone.

Choginga is down too, possibly for the count but they mention they will eventually resume service. Oh well, at least Kancolle, Aigis, FKG and Kanpani are sure to survive for a good while.

>>14592876
I'm saying there are probably better ways to cheese it
most of these GR maps are not as hard as they look, although the Bandit Exodus is a bitch that requires a great deal of ranged damage output and/or godly tanking

>>14593239
Well it works, so you can't argue with results.

Also, I did a 5 SC and I got Shizuka... I need to remake my team.

>>14593262
damn, that was the one I was after
she's just too kawaii

>>14593281
I hope you get it with your next roll. I wanted Celia to tell the truth. I like her more.

>>14593290
I wanted a Celia and I got the plat bandit Lyla. I've gave up trying for her now.

>>14593317
Checked their stats (Lyla and Celia), wow Celia is stronger from the beginning.

>>14593330
Nope, Lyla is the stronger one, as far as bandits go even Conrad is better than Cellia.
Lyla has good affection bonuses and a good bandit skill while Cellia has shit in those areas too.

The only reason anyone really wants Cellia is for her passive.

>>14593476
3 reasons actually: her passive, her HP and her ranged magic attack (skill AW)

who did you nerds pick in peropero?

>>14593563
I don't play PeroPero anymore. Too shallow of game mechanics and all of the cards can be viewed online. Their animated scenes didn't do enough for me, either.
Logged in quickly to see the choices and then looked up their end cards though. I would choose the flute girl (though they changed her sprite from the JP one, so who knows what it looks like now) which is a blowjob scene or the Native American which has her taken from behind, up against a wall

>>14593611
I stopped mainly because of the long time sink, just could use that time on other things, don't feel like checking every 30 min to use something up and such.

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I've got 2 extra Kerry and Iris, what should i do with them?
Levelling another one, fusing them to CC or just leaving them for awakening sacrifice?
I don't really like using more than one of the same unit.

>>14593643
cc 30 and give to orginal

>>14593643
30CC20 and feed back to CR and SU

>>14593645
>>14593651
Didn't thinked about that, thanks.

50 attempts later I still haven't completed a single one of these event maps.

I'm never gonna get these golds.

>>14593748
You mean complete as in 3 star or actually finishing the map? Because you can get the golds without 3 starring.

>>14593748
Show your team.

>>14593758
Get the golds, I mean.

I can complete the maps just fine, this fucking gold fairy just never fucking drops in this one map. I'd try others but someone mentioned that all the drop rates were like this.

>>14593765
I hope you're killing every monster

>>14593805
I'm actually trying to complete the very first one still, the priest one.

I kill all units except death since I got three star already...I don't need to kill him outside that do I?

>>14593831
The very first one is actually the easy Archer one (Hunter's Forest)
but no, the magic skeleton guy doesn't drop the fairy, only the three 'holy women' do

>>14593831
No, he doesn't drop it

>>14593831
No, only priestesses. Getting the gold fairy took me a while.

>>14591227

http://the-aria.org/kct/

GMT 0400

>>14591661

http://harem-battle.club/kanpani-girls/673-kanpani-girls-resource-details-guide.html

This is the speed play guide written by the guy who played 6 accounts up to part 2 ch 1 so he could get 6 Judita serial codes (all fed to his main account).

>>14593122

They have different strengths. Tactics looks pretty but there's not much to the gameplay once you figure out an optimal build. Providence... I dropped it due to the tiny UI but those who stuck with it say it's got more inter-guild things to do.

>>14593859
That page doesn't look correct. Says no hourly quest now, but its exp quest up.
Also, login rewards and resumes appear at different times, I'm online around that time and always get login reward first and then resume few hours later.

just started Dragon Providence because bored and did the first gacha roll after job choice, got ssr ifrit. Is it normal to get a ssr on that roll? Is it any good?

>>14593884

To my awareness, login reward resets at GMT 0000 and resume is at 0400. It's what I've read from guides though, I'm never awake at 0400.

>>14593889

I got the impression the game showers you with a few SSRs at the beginning.

Just got a plat from the daily free 2k roll. Base and BaseSP are actually giving me better results than premium summons these days.

>>14594041
damn
never gotten higher than silver
premium gacha has been kind though

So I'm better off just using crystals for buffs to try and force wins in this New Years maps, right?

>>14594068
I'm starting to suspect that daily free rolls have a higher rate than 2k gold rolls. Done hundreds of both, but the plat and both golds were from free rolls.

Heads up on Kanpani event hammer: only works on part 1 weapons. Does NOT work on character weapons or R12 (royal).

Oh and facebook says this weekend, the Fortune quests give double EXP.

>>14594103
DMM and Nutaku have never published rates for the 2k summon have they?

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My God, I didn't realize how hard this path is.

>>14593563
So which one is higher than the other two combined because everyone bandwagoned her?

>>14594429
I remember in JP peropero that the Japs had horrible taste.

There was one time where there was a brown semen demon available but the generic blonde haired princess type won by a landslide.

>>14594456
i went to look that up, and the jap wiki doesn't have scenes, damn

Great, one more event with this video-card burning monkey-coded "winter effects" shit on Girls Kingdom. They are really keen on forcing me to drop it, aren't they.

>loads of gold
>loads of silver and gold fairies
>11 decent-to-good gold units
>11 SCs
>all on easy maps

Reckon they're priming the pump for Awakening?
only missing Fedora and Betty now, fucking gold fairies

>>14595044
this event is what Japan got right at the start though

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Guys, this is my entire unit list (missing fairies and unit fodder).
Any advice to make a better team?

>>14595097
For starters, lock your gold+ and active silver units, because that's fucking triggering me right there.

Then focus on Bashira, Katie/Julian, and Iris.

>>14595097
Get Cuterie, Barbastroff and Conrad from GR if you can.

Other than these, your team is good enough, no need for new units for now, just raise Iris and Bashira to 50CC40 first. Then Katie and Bernice. Then Barbastroff, Pares or some other mage. Then Cloris since you have her at 45 anyway.

>>14595133
Is Cuterie so good? I'm not using my Cecily that much, so I don't know about rogues that much.

>>14595164
Cuterie is good to have on your team during the Challenge Quests, just for her affection item drop rate boost

>>14595164
You don't use rogues for fighting, unless you have AW Berna. Only for stalling and the occasional lucky assassinate, neither of which Cecily (or Harissa) is particularly good at. You'll be using Cypria for those unless you happen to get Berna from the shrine.

Cuterie is used for her affection drop rate increase, while Betty is used for her gold get passive when awakened.

>>14595184
wow... that is good.

>>14595164
Cuterie, Monica, Cellia, Amanda, Yunon and Leda boost drop rates of appropriate items/units, sometimes being the difference between relying on RNG and getting item for 100% chance. If you plan to play Aigis for a long time, its very wise to get them ASAP.

>>14595213
Also Robert for male items. And Noel for gold. But these two are not as important.

>>14595216
>Noel
NutakuDevTea: not in my guard!

>>14595216
>>14595225
>Noel
Loli?

>>14595241
She's dwarf, not loli. There are no loli in Aigis.

>>14595255
There are no lolis in any Nutaku game... riiight?

>>14595262
Yep, everyone full grown adults

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>>14595295

>>14595314
DMM in a nutshell

If I have multiple copies of a unit whose skill doesnt change on CC, should I still get the copy to 30CC20 before feeding it, or can I just feed it at 20?

>>14595629
You can feed it at 1, no point in levelling it at all.

>>14595653
if it's a male unit, like Stray, feeding it at level 20-30 with three identical fairies will give EXP like a plat armor

>>14595909
Exp gain from additional levels is 7 exp per level for silver and above. While exp needed for level up is non-linear, and much bigger than gain from level up.
By raising gold male from 1 to 20 you get 19*7=133 extra exp, while you need to waste 1733 exp. Even with 8x bonus from fairies, you still waste 730 exp by doing this shit.

>>14595927
For a lot of us, gold is completely useless since we're sitting in the millions and spending 50k for a exp armour is worth it.

>>14595987
Your post doesn't make sense. If you have excess gold, then theres even less reason to waste exp on raising fodder.
You are spending 2 exp armors to get one.

>>14595993
Exp armours are far rarer than gold is, and its annoying to level a unit 41+, and not effecient to do it with level 1 fodder.

>>14595987
>>14596008
But the only thing you're saving with that method is gold, while wasting a lot of exp. So the one case where it might make sense to do this is if you're really really tight on gold.

If you don't care about gold, then the better way is to just to feed the units you use to raise Stray to 20 directly to your other unit instead. It is more expensive in terms of gold, but gives noticably more exp.

>>14596008
You are not good with math it seems.
Suppose there's 1 gold unit you want to use as fodder of level 1 and pile of irons/bronzes with total of 1733 exp.

Scenario 1 (one you suggest):
You feed irons/bronzes to gold unit to raise it to level 20, then feed it with 3 fairies to whatever unit you want to level.
Exp gain: (750 + 19*7) * 8 = 7064

Scenario 2 (the efficient one):
You just feed everything to unit you want to level directly.
Exp gain: 750 * 8 + 1733 = 7733

By your crazy shenanigans with raising fodder gold you LOSE exp and money, there's nothing "efficient" about it at all.

You guys are assuming both units are the same level, which would never be the case. It would end up costing a shit ton to level a unit from 41 to 50 with level 1 fodder, exp doesn't matter since its only level 1 fodder being wasted.

At 160 - 200 exp per combine at 7200 gold per combine at 41 its not worth using level 1 fodder.
If you used lvl 1 bronze fodder x4 per combine to reach 50 it would take 288000, yes its a loss of exp but not a waste of gold.

>>14596054
That number is too low because you haven't taken into account the rising costs of gold needed per level.

>>14596054
He said he didn't care about gold at all, >>14595987
> exp doesn't matter since its only level 1 fodder being wasted
Exp is exp, doesn't matter what level it is.
I've raised plenty of units to CC70 with just irons and bronzes, when you farm decent maps (IB on nutaku, Castle Town on DMM) you don't care about gold costs.

>>14596054
In what fairy world you are getting enough of these mystical level one irons to raise fodder to 20?
Only source of them for any player playing more than one day would be free daily gacha. Since you need 43 of them to raise one gold to 20, that would mean collecting them over 1.5 months just for slight exp boost. Talk about annoying.

>>14596070
>>14596078
There's a big difference between lvl 20 fodder and lvl 1 fodder, the gold that doesn't matter at all comes from 2k gacha, where its about 64000 gold to get enough fodder to get something to lvl 20.
64000 (not 50k) + the costs of leveling a duplicate to 20 is far less than feeding it directly to a 41+ unit.

Fucking tengu.
One second too early to retreat unit, and my perfect 3* run of 田を返せ is ruined again.
Going to use Memento with her tokens this time, its so much easier to do with skeletons. She's best investment of SC for me so far.

>>14596083
What? You suggest wasting 64k gold on free gacha to get whole 133 extra exp and you believe this is somehow efficient?
If you feed level 1 irons directly into unit, even at 41+ you will get more than 133 exp for 64k gold.

>>14596092
This is to hit 50, as stated earlier it'd cost over 288000 gold just to level to 50 with the fodder, or you can spend roughly 70000 for the same deal by feeding a duplicate, the end result is a level 50 gold unit either way.

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>>14593651
>30CC20
wait, are you saying to CC them at 30, then get them another 20 levels before feeding them to the original?
I get the CC at 30 part, but why get them another 30 levels afterwards?

>>14596111
extra levels give extra exp

have yet to do that for myself though

>>14596111
To boost exp gained when combined with 3 fairys, if you're using 2k gacha to level shit due to having several millions then its cheaper.

>>14596089
You should have a fair amount of time to see them throw their staff, unless you set up on the right side by their spawn point, in which case bets are off.

Tokens for lightning tengu are a safe tactic though, there's plenty of room with the number of deployment slots.

>>14596140
At 田を返せ they appear right over ranged units on right side of map. Retreating right when staff is already in air is kinda tricky there, if you retreat during attack animation before projectile is created he will target other unit instead, but staff flies about second before hitting.

>>14596111
I personally stop at 30CC10.

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If they are flowers, why do they have boobs?

>>14596364
Petals, right?

I was thinking of playing Kanpani Girls is there anyone I should reroll for?

>>14596392
Holly is best unit to roll for, but I'm not sure you can get 5* from rerolling now. Should'be done it few days ago when they gifted 2 black envelopes.

>>14596111
Levels after CC give +20 exp each.
It's a good idea to wait for male exp bonus so your CC22 gold males are worth like 2 plat armors ((750x2)+(20x21)+80).

Females have low base exp so even with 3x bonus I'd rather sell them for rainbow crystals.

>>14596111
People stop at level 30 for CC? i always maxed level before CCing because someone in here told me once it was a waste to do it and the units would be more weaker than they should be.

>>14596407
You can stop at 30 if you plan on feeding that unit to another. If you are planning on using the unit you are CC'ing, level it to max.

>>14596392
The tutorial roll can only get you a 3*, but you start with 9 stones, so you can roll when you get 1 more. The problem is that you start without PR Division and Golden Mailbox, so your chances of getting a good roll are even worse than usual.

If you really want to start with a strong girl I suggest you wait till we get a Black Envelope as a daily present (we actually got 2 recently as the other anon pointed out) or try to get a free acc for example from http://harem-battle.club/kanpani-girls/706-account-giveaway-list.html

>>14596396
>>14596420
Is rerolling a huge deal or can I start off with a level 3 rare just fine? I got Fiora as a black rare envelope.

>>14596424
Some 5* character weapons are very broken, but you need 80+ team to clear 5*CQ, so difference would be apparent only several months after you started.

>>14596429
So should I just wait till I can get a 5* character or start now? Sorry I'm stupid.

>>14596430
You don't need 5* chars to clear all game content. Decide yourself.

>>14596432
Guess i'll play now since I don't want to wait. Anyway to add friends in this game or just pure solo?