That's it? A pastebin link and the tenhou lobby? Come the fuck on OP you could at least put some effort in your thread, like citing famous mahjong players or something I don't know you lazy fuck
Is mahjong manga (or really mahjong media) the most imbalanced genre in fan translations, with regards to the ratio of number of series to number of readers/spectators?
It seems to me that even among mahjong manga and anime fans, there's reluctance to go read anything other than Saki (and assorted spinoffs) and Akagi. It's understandable, but it's a shame nevertheless that people who don't know mahjong seem to completely avoid works that feature the game. Shame because I'm not sure that we can say that there is a series that would be a pain to go through if you didn't know the game aside from Ten, and Ten's finale is so great that it'd be worth learning the game just to read that work. Saki's popularity (or maybe I'm just overrating its popularity?) is a bit absurd in this light because it's full of references to mahjong media and history (simplest example, all of the dialogue at the end of the anime episodes reference famous passages in mahjong manga), it's actually pretty heavy on the jong, but does it subtly so to say.
Of course every one of these series become more enjoyable if you actually have some experience in the game, but for example Naki no Ryuu was revolutionary back in its day because it was a mahjong manga that could -and was- read by the general public. Whereas today it looks like not even many mahjong manga fans are touching it even though it's being translated, let alone random manga readers.
Short and sweet is best in my opinion. It also seems like people will complain either way seeing as how last thread got more for being too long and ommiting the info
For anyone who cares, the first chapter of Tohai has been released. It's currently still pending approval on Batoto but you can grab it here.
>people not queuing for fast red 5s, and instead picking retard mode.
yes, thank you
2016 sure is treating my like a bitch.
I guess those days really happen to everyone. I'm just calming myself now and telling myself to let it go.
>mfw, losing the first and only game this year
>Furiten faggot learn about it.
He said he got tsumo though, I thought furiten only applied to ron?
>I do play as a NoName on 7447.
Well you can't really ccomment about how easy NoNames are if you are one yourself
Ask him if he called any tiles before he got the tsumo.
>Well you can't really ccomment about how easy NoNames are if you are one yourself
Doesn't imply that I don't play at all in L0000 with a different account faggot.
You have no yaku.
That's what happens when newbies call every tile and make a garbage hand that can't win.
You could have gone for open tanyao (where you don't have any wind tiles, dragon tiles, 1 tiles or 9 tiles) but you called pon on the 9m and sealed your faith.
Full yaku list as well as explanation. Dont try to memorize all of them right now, have a few go-to ones. Once you're done getting the hang of that, look into furiten. I guarantee you that'll be your next "why can't I win?" Post
I have a tip for you faggots. When you're a complete beginner, play the gamedesign mahjong for 6-12 months. Experiment for yourself what happens when you do a certain something in a situation. Don't close the tab, play at all times, they don't have a timer anyway. Don't even try to memorize the yaku by looking at the convenient yaku list, you'll just forget it later. Play until you absorb all the law by experience. After that you can start playing in tenhou.
At least that's how I did it.
If I remember correctly
-(assuming that your hand has at least 1 yaku) If one of your winning tile is in your pond, it's permanent furiten BUT you can win with a tsumo
-If you go for say tanyao and are in tenpai with 78 waiting for 69, if the 9 comes to you and your hand is closed is a menzen tsumo so you win, if it's open and you discard it, permanent furiten so you better change your wait, if another player discards the 9 you're in furiten until it's your turn again
He posted again asking why another hand was furiten when he ponned 9m and the rest of his hand was going for a tanyao.
The kid needs to learn what yaku is first before we get into the technical stuff.
Also remember that if you riichi with a closed hand and pass on a win aiming for either for a bigger hand or to not kill a player, that furiten is until the end of the round, not the end of the turn.
This old post by xkime I stumbled upon recently really helped me a lot in keeping a positive mindset while playing and losing. Wish I read this earlier.
> he cannot reach even the ‘Ponpalace’ mark on the graph
>if you riichi with a closed hand and pass on a win aiming for either for a bigger hand or to not kill a player
>either for a bigger hand
This implied it can be tsumo or ron and he didn't even say anything about it being only for ron after that so yes, it was necessary.
You didn't change anything about what I said though. With both methods of winning (ron and tsumo) the result of passing while riichi'd is a round lasting furiten. What did you correct here?
I think he's confused about the "for a bigger hand" part. Like he only thinks I mean only the yaku for tsumo increasing the hands value, instead of something like the example I hand in mind, san shoku.
How often do anons incorporate complex waits?
I have a few down, namely nobetan, ryanmenten, sanmentan, and pentan.
However, waits like kantankan, tatsumaki and happoubijin are a bit of a stretch for me to memorize atm (hence why I'm making an autist spreadsheet right now).
Eh, I don't know about that. Sometimes it's better to stay damaten until you have a better wait. Unless you have a early hand in tenapi on shanpon wait, (12 or 89 waiting on 3 or 7) since it's probably easier to win than to shift to a better wait at the point. Plus you wouldn't slow down your hand allowing opponents to catch up etc.
Alrighty, good to know! I guess I should incorporate ryantan, too.
I can see your point for the more common waits but what is the point of memorizing something like what happoubijin is? You're gonna see that wait like once every 500 games. Or less.
I think its cool when everybody has their small pool of favorite yaku to go for, like their own personal flavor you have to learn how to defend against. Feels very Saki when you play against the same people regularly and can tell what they're going for.
How many matches have you faggots actually played? Combining my current two accounts and my one dead accounts I found that I've actually played more than 2000 games.
Started playing tenhou in 2013 by the way.
>perfect chinitsu comeback in south 4
I always loved my riichi, pinfu, tan yao, ippatsu, tsumo that would happen all the time when I was playing with a few friends. I nicknamed it the
dragon's fistand always joked about it over skype. I would love to play mahjong if stupid shit like that, or stuff in Koizumi happened regularly.
> I suffer in 2016
Here's an exercise.
What are the waiting tiles here?
Well, my wins aren’t perfectly cosecutive, but at least I don′t have losses
I had a lot in December, though.
May you all also have a white stripe
I had a bad streak yesterday, too. I'm nearly back to R1700. however. Need to finish spreadsheet first before getting back to grinding.
This happened, though.
I only see 2p and 5p.
My method is just start asking "Is the one a winning tile?" "Is the 2 a winning tile?" etc etc
Yeah it takes a shit load of time and is probably impossible to do on a live match but.. whatever
Wow, I'm around R1660 right now, too.
You probably did! I've been playing mostly L0 in an attempt to grind that R.
Yeah. I was in disbelief yesterday, but I now find it hilarious. I feel good for the guy who pulled a miracle rush, y'know?
Is Mahjong actually popular in Japan still? Seemed like one of those things that used to be popular back in the 50s or some shit, but not very popular in the modern era (see: Go, Chess, etc).
Mahjong is still the #1 most played table game in Japan. Possibly in the entire East Asian region even.
Go and chess are entirely skill dependent games for 2 people, so it's normal that they can't be as popular as mahjong which is played with 4 people and where with enough luck even a novice can beat a super pro.
The game would actually be even more popular in Japan if it didn't have an image of being tied with the underworld and gambling. It seems like people are more likely to get into it when they graduate from high school, and one Japanese friend I have mentioned how in his school people had problems playing the game there due to opposition by teachers.
As an interesting note, he and some others mentioned that Akagi was what interested many of the generation born in the late '80s-early '90s to get into the game.
ok, i was wrong since 2sou was already out
you did the right thing
Unless there's another gogo roaming 0000, I recall you ron'ing the poor sod I had destroyed in east1 with a 24000 Ron, ending the game.
So when I say thanks, I meant thanks for busting that dude and ending the game early while I had a massive lead
A 6-dan just busted out to Gogo. Now I've seen everything.
As long as you're not killing people for it.
>95 points away from promotion
>internet connection suddenly decide to betray me
>wait for 15 minutes before connection is back
>4000 points left
What have I done wrong to deserve this?
Guys is there a place where I can torrent Tohai?
I don't want to watch it through viki, it sucks having to watch it with fucking 5th wave ads playing every 15mins.
I gotta say I am pretty impress with the MC being to remember all the crack tiles in a single session. He is definitely more OP than Akagi.
Pretty sure Adblock works. Or if you know your way around Aegisub, you can help us release the DVD episodes.
>He is definitely more OP than Akagi
Nah, Kei's badass but he's not untouchable like Akagi.
Yeah I guess adblock work but then I have to watch it on my PC.
The other thing is the limitation to 480p for non paying users so it is pretty shitty.
I also didn't know that d-addicts torrent section went down. Where do you guys get jdrama torrent nowadays? Is there a sekrit club?
The first time I hit 4d I got very cocky and thought I was some big shot mahjong prodigy. I even got to like 50-100 point away from promotion to 5d but then it all went tumbling down and I got demoted back to 2d.
On the arcturus tenhou ranking page, what do these numbers mean?
No. Was the first game I've played (or at least attempted to) in some time. Been bored out of my mind the past few days with this shit connection, figured maybe I could at least play on Tenhou, but apparently not...
I know how much having a d/c in the game sucks, but unfortunately I couldn't get back into the game no matter what I tried. Sorry.
>second rinshan kaihou in two days
>feels pretty good
>check replay after match is over
>fucking east had the other winning tiles and seemed likely to be holding onto all of em for his hand
>so basically i drew the only available tile with that spurn of the moment kan
what a bullshit rinshan kaihou, huh?
Why do you need aegissub?
You can rip the sub off viki as srt and then just play the raws using mpc. Even if the timing is off, you can use xyfilter for the timing offset. Care to share the raws at mega? I finally marathon the whole of s1 on viki already though even with the terrible video qualify, seriously Japan need to stop bullying the childhood friend. Shit was brutal, not even Amina got it that bad.
>only three fourth place in December
>already ten fourth place in 2016
>most of my hands start with 6-7 single honors
>my opponents get bullshit hands (oya haneman-baiman in E1 fifth games in a row)
>lost almost every riichi roulette with the same or better wait than my opponents (though I called it first)
When I thought I would be at second dan and +1800 at this point. Hope it just a shit start and good times will come soon.
Yeah, we've already got the srts from Viki. The problem is that Viki has the TV-length episodes, but we've got the DVD episodes which are longer. Six DVD episodes were split into eight TV episodes.
4/136, unless you can see some of them already out.
For starters, assemble four kongs of honours.
‘Kong’ is official enough for the European mahjong association http://mahjong.dk/filer/riichisheet.pdf so go fuck yourself and eat a dozen of burgers to calm your nerves.
I got a physical mahjong set.
I was so excited to play it, after months of playing online, and even teaching my flatmates and friends.
We did a test game.
Flatmate1 and his girlfriend quit after two hands to watch Sherlock, saying it was 'just a pause'.
Then, two hours later, it was too late to actually keep playing.
I'm not blaming them, I'm aware that the number of people seriously invested in this game must be abysmal outside of Japan, but it still felt kind of lonely, being the only one who cared.
At least I can keep being a shitter in 7447
> everything I say is right
Did you already finish the first dozen of burgers?
I’d suggest you to grow a proper beard
and throw out your pissbottlesbefore calling anyone ‘kiddo’. Oh, feel free to call for mods. I’d like to see how you would force me to use double quotes instead of single ones and write ‘honours’ without ‘u’.
> Okay Ahmed
Bzzzt, Cletus. You can open a new 5l bottle of Coca Cola to drown your sorrow.
> Yuropoor mahjong
I dunno about what’s going on in your head, but we discuss Riichi here. And if you haven’t been fucking in eye pits, you could notice that the pdf I posted link to was about Riichi as well.
> and use the same terminology as everyone else
Then proceed to fuck yourself http://ooyamaneko.net/download/mahjong/World_Riichi_Championship_Rules_2015.pdf
What really does look retarded is defending a /jp/-thread terminology. 槓子 is a set of four identical tiles that’s named a kong in World Riichi Championship terminology (see above). カン in its turn is a 鳴き, a call. Calling a set of tiles with the name for a call itself – excuse my tautology – isn’t correct no matter how you slice it.
Is everyone in 7447 scrubs? Whenever I play there I end up first or second most of the time, but dare I go to 0000 I almost ALWAYS lose. There, it seems like everyone is always in tenpai waiting on my tiles not 5 discards in, it's insane. I can even start with a good enough hand as to win something at least, like 2 dragons and 2 of my wind, yet I never get to call them and even if I wait on shittier hands I can NEVER get in tenpai. Is the Real Flow™ a japanese only thing?
Some bastard always manages to overtake me in the last two rounds.
You have to change your playstyle in 0000.
Don't expect to be able to ron anyone like you do in 7447. Most players at the public turtle like shit.
That mean you should turtle, wait for the wave and when they come build your big hand fast and tsumo fast.
When you have shit hand, just open tanyao/yakuhai pon and cheese with 1fan while playing defensively to cockblock everyone.
>mfw, needing to pee and shit during mahjong
Just let it all out, you useless maggot.
> get tired of consecutive losses in 0
> go to dan lobby
> at the E3 I’m at the third place, but the difference between players is minimal
> toimen riichis
> kamicha that is two dans higher riichis too
> computer is restarting
Thank you based Intel® HD Graphics 3000.
On new years, at like 1 AM, I got on tenhou because I thought to myself I wouldn't go to bed until I got my first win of the year.
I lost so many times, but I won finally after like five hours. Tenhou truly is the most evil.
>not starting a new year with a comback ended in sha round
i'm sorry anon, good thing you stole at least one.
The pon. It was during a riichi and caused the person riichi'd to get a haneman. It didn't even get them into tenpai either. And despite this they won in the end anyway. It must have been some master plan.
Goodness, the match going on right now is a showcase of everything that people hate about mahjong. A person that might not even know yaku, and just refused to throw a perfectly safe, totally useless wind tile while two people were riichi'd, thus dealing into a hand for no reason just got a sanbaiman and is 40k up in south 2. I don't know how pros can stand this kind of thing for a living. Get a job handling costumer complaints or something if you want to deal with bullshit all day.
Yeah I used to get ippatsus a lot of times when I was a beginner but ultimately the account I used at that time got nowhere by relying on blind luck/playing occult. Peaked at 2d and about R1500.
Why do you not believe in beginner's luck, you unfaithful scumbag?
Your special snowflake syndrome strikes again?
Remember a time when Europeans didn't know the difference between yaku and han? I bet you, some of them still don't.
they still don't
>The player has declared
riichi. The hand scores 1 yaku for Riichi, 1 yaku for Pinfu, 2 yaku for Pure Straight (because
the hand is concealed. Note that even though it is a claimed tile that finishes the Pure
Straight, it still scores an extra yaku because the hand is concealed). Total: 4 yaku.
The only real way to learn the game is by taking your beatings.
Mahjong players. We're a bunch of masochists. Just ask anyone currently ranking in L0. Regardless of skill level, we're voluntarily subjecting ourselves to that hell.
Yeah. I don't think that English yaku names are a bad thing though- most people get discouraged with all the Japanese names unless they're very much into the game, and this includes Japanese learners. However the Japanese names should always also be included.
The confusion between yaku and han is inexcusable though. And so is using the Chinese terms, might as well say Lìzhí instead of Riichi then.
Though I appreciate the progress between
> Europeans don't know what they're talking about either
> some of them still don't
I don’t feel obliged to further communicate with someone who’s not able to converse with determinate and fact based assertions, preferring to rather express opinions out of his arse.
I only acknowledge one kind of flow. It's the steamy hot liquid pouring straight out of my bladder. Feels gud man.
Nigga, I wasn't even there for half the game. I know you're eager to use any opportunity you can to shit on me to raise what little self-esteem you have left, but come on man. You can only stoop so low. Still waiting on that yakuman, by the way.
I've been playing for a couple years, though not intensively, and have only recently got one. My friend got a daisangen on his very first try of mahjong on Mattari Mahjong.
No one seriously thinks that Yakuman has any real meaning. Of course it feels pretty good getting one, but it doesn't mean anything.
> fast ari
The hell are you playing there?
Reminder: When playing activate this option. It will make you play even better.
I played five game on general lobby and end with 0-2-2-1. The problem is that my hands are shit or wall won't allow me to get tenpai earlier than around 12th turn.
On the other side my opponents get a lot quick and strong hand and quick riichi.What's more I saw three tenpai to suu ankou (deal into one when I was oya - still dora san so it hurt) and once end up third with 30k points.
Got ron sixth time, so yea, could be better, but I don't think it was the main problem here (only two times I must paid more than 3900 - one is that haneman above, second when I dealt into ippatsu chiitoitsu wait on sha (have three on my hand and no other safe titles).
this year sucks
> five games with no wins
> this year sucks
Kodomos these days.
That's 4 ippatsu's in a row, what the hell are you guys doing.
>playing on ranked
>NoName wins constantly
>ALWAYS has yakuhai
>gets at least mangan every time he wins
>tsumos every single time
>even if gets into tenpai later than others, will win
You can't make this shit up. Some people must be cheating.
I'm starting to think once you play enough you unlock what superstitious ones refer as "sense" for the tiles, or being able to grab the 'flow".
I don't mean anything as idiotic as hidden energies or anything, it's more like how if you've played a thousand games, sometimes you will have deja vu about situations, so you will instinctively 'feel' what someone is waiting on, because you played that same hand some 200 games ago, so it's likely to unfold the same way.
>sometimes you will have deja vu about situations
Man, this happened like 3 times in a game I played the other day. Right down to "I'll draw the red 5p now" or "Now I'll get to kan this".
I still got my ass kicked.
You think that's impressive? Let me tell you something. I have actual mahjong super powers.
Whenever someone declares riichi I will, without fault, draw the tile they are waiting on the very next turn. If I were a bit smarter I could use this information to not deal in, but I'm not.
What would it take for you to play real life mahjong this year?
Thanks for assist Gogo. I couldn't have done it without you.
Take a break and reassess your game. Last month I was in a similar situation. Hell, I was one 4th place away from being demoted to 3-dan. It seemed to me that all I do is lose no matter how hard I try.
In my losing streak I was too angry and kept gambling in matches where I shouldn't. The trick for me was to remember that the game owes me nothing. Just because I got unlucky in one game doesn't mean it has to compensate me by rewarding my stupid gambles in another game. Once I get that out of my system(not completely, some of that sense of entitlement still remains even nowadays) my game improve and I began climbing up again.
Put simply, find your weaknesses and try to fix it.
You pussy. I've gone as far as 85/1600 only to fight my way back up, because it's the harder road.
Yes. In fact, I just finished watching a game just a few moments ago.
I always thought the being better in the East or South round powers were plausible but in reality it would just be a mental thing where they play better because they have more confidence