Mahjong is love, mahjong is life

You fucked up the link

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Fug you Fukuda
Was in tenpai for a cheap sanshoku and would have overtaken you in one or two renchans

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>>14583144
It’s a copypaste of what was in the previous one. I’d fix it if I were sure the nice link greeter in the engine would let em in. In other words, blame the fucked up engine.

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For future threads you don't need to make another thread until the old one archives or at the very least reaches page 10.

/jp/ is pretty slow, threads on page 10 can stay up for quite a while

>2016 losing streak

Fuggggg

Tacos is the only straight girl in Saki.

And your mahjong skills are fucking SHIT, I don't even know how you guys can still show your faces around here.

>>14583398
Really? I mean Yuuki definitely likes guys but she still came across as bi to me, maybe that's just because the author is a fag though

>>14583413
Ritz is straight and Kyoutarou is based on her first love.

test

Is tenhou dead or just me?

>>14583561
I just finished a game

>>14583564
Well it's just whiteness for me

At least I'll end up second, with luck

>>14583561
Not just you. Tenhou disconnected me just after I finished a game.

Now I get this:

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天鳳 / Windows版
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アプリケーションの更新情報を取得できませんでした



インターネットに接続していることを確認してください
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OK
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Tenhou is kill

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>>14583561
>> downforeveryoneorjustme.com >>

Where am I supposed to play online mahjong now?

What are you talking about? I just finished a match and tenhou is still up for me.

>>14583607
Why don't you refresh the page and see what happens?

>>14583626
I did. It's just a blank white page.

>>14583630
Whoops, I meant to reply to the guy who thinks Tenhou is all peachy-keen right now.

>>14583621
>>14583621

Can anyone share the newest minhoulib or know where to get them.
Just played again after a very long time and got shit hand after shit hand.
I bet they rigged the game for the paid client.

>>14583651
http://minomino.org/

>>14583589
Doesn't really work since services like tenhou can often go down without the website being inaccessible.

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OK, who broke my Tenhou?

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This is how you South round.

>>14583138
>mahjong is life
But Tenhou is ded.

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>>14584591
>no more Tenhou

>>14584621
Someone get Abe on the line damn it, this is serious

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Really, even on this flash shit? What's wrong with my luck lately?

>>14584693
I know that feel, especially after my December winning streak

>>14583138
tenhou is back

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Disgusting.

>>14585177
I had faith in the 1s, bitch.

Too bad Sirs won.

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>>14585223
When I finally had hope that my eight game streak on 3-4 place will end. Well, this one was even worse.

>tfw never lucky

>>14585233
I know that feel.

At least you won hands unlike the other 3dan. You were just unlucky that game. Chin up, anon ;_;

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>>14584014
Yes, I remembered that, but it was too late.

>>14585233
You should have discarded 3s.
100% safe against one player, suji agansit the others. No need to play this offensively when you're in the lead.

>>14585291
Oh wait. There were 3 riichis already. Then what are you even complaining about?

>>14585318
It isn't like he can call riichi without throwing a tile out, ya know?

>>14585346
Isn't the riichi declared before the tile to discard is selected and thus the round ends before he discards?

>>14585346
Anon, I think he is saying that there were 3 richiis on the table already and that he should have bailed. Probably everyone in this thread understands how declaring richii works.

>>14585392
Oh, wait, you're saying he could have declared richii to get a draw,. IDK, if it came to that then it was a 50% chance he'd discard the right tile (in hindsight).

>>14585374
Nope. A tile must be thrown out and pass before the riichi is official.

>>14585244
Well, I don't mind losing one, two or even ten games if I deserve it. But when it keep going game after game it just isn't fun.
Now I played another game - ended last only because everyone else was more lucky than me (TWO haitei and one oya tsumo haneman at the start when I cannot win anything by tsumo).
When I crushing my opponents in one month and keep losing like this in another something isn't right.

>>14585291
I don't have any safe title right here. It always better to try get tenpai and get ronned than crushing hand and get ronned.

WreckH is a faggot.

>>14585408
OK, I didn't know, never got into a situation where I could declare a 4th riichi.

>>14585426
>I don't have any safe title right here.
3s was 100% safe against one player and fairly safe against the others. 6m was also pretty safe now that I look at it closer, though. Double suji against all players.

>>14585470
Still I think that the best choice was to declare riichi with 3s, though.

>>14585492
>declare riichi with 3s
Did you even look at the hand?

>>14585492
If he was to declare richii, he'd have to discard the 7s, which was what I was waiting on, or the 6m, which was what Sirs was waiting on.

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>>14585527
Oops, I should probably go to bed. I was somehow under the impression that 3s was the tile he had only one of instead of 7s.

2:0
Get in here fags.

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>>14585767
>3:0

My internet's been shit lately, don't blame me if it disconnects.

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Translate it weebs

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>>14585842
“UR A FAGET”

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Still 3:0.

>>14585233
Pairs are gross

>>14585233
Anyone who goes for chiitoitsu deserves to lose.

>doubel riichi with a single wait on Dora
Loving every laugh lads

>no gyakuten
Shame on you

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Fuck mahjong, fuck 2016. Fuck.

Kuyashii ;_;7

FUCK YOU GOGO

>>14585842
open in another browser

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You don't see a hand like that everyday !

>>14586078
I see that every day

>>14586078
Also whoops meant to crop it in MSPaint!

>>14586016
I have gone from mid 1600s to low 1400s by getting nothing but 4ths the entire fucking time

>>14586092
I managed to drop down from 4th dan to almost 1st dan in my worst losing streak.

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>>14584320

>>14586250
Now stop playing weak bots and kill a real person

I claim double riichii when I don't think I have a good hand

Fuck my luck, this game is curse.

>>14583413
>maybe that's just because the author is a fag though
Wonder if Ritz is one of those from gals from the lesbian supremacy movement.She already stated guys are smalltime in mahjong.

>>14586104
That's what nightmares are made of.

>>14586078
Suuankou tenpai? Well, y'can see that on a somewhat regular basis ever couple months or so.

>>14585931
Why? I love going for chiitoitsu

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>mfw, dora ankou also becomes ura-dora ankou

Cha-ching!

How does one harness the flow?

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>>14587538
Use your inner spirit.

This game. This fucking game. In the 2nd west 4 round the player with the most points had 25800.
Probably the most hard fought match I've had so far.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016010720gm-0089-0000-x5a7eccbfa6d9&tw=2

Anyone know what the letters after the rate here mean?
http://tenhou.net/sc/?rate4

>>14587592
>west
?????

>>14587624
If by the end of south 4 no player has 30k points or more the game continues into the west rounds. It ends immediately when a player reaches 30k, but at the latest after west 4. West 4 rounds can still repeated by dealer wins/tenpai, though.

>>14587623
>ランキング

That? That's Ranking.

>>14587623
>K=800戦未満 L=1200戦未満 M=1200戦以上

>>14587652
No, I mean the M in "2312M".
Some players have Ls or Ks instead. What do they stand for?

>>14587659
Thanks. This is number of games, right?
There are 9-dan players with less than 1200 games? Just how the fuck do they do it?

>>14587679
If you've made it to X-dan, then it wouldn't be all that hard starting a new account and getting right back to that level.

>>14587737
It still seems hard as fuck to me, to do that in under 1200 games. At 8th dan you get +90/+45/-150. And you need 1600 pts to get to 9th dan.
If we assume an equal distribution of 1st and 2nd and 3rd and 4th places you would need to have a 26.3 1s/2nd and a 23.7 3rd/4th place rate just to break even. Even at .28 vs. .22 it would take you 330 games alone to get from 8dan to 9dan. And this is the Houou lobby we're talking about. You might be able to get winning rates this high in lower lobbies but I would like to see anyone with stats like that in Houou.

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>Tuesday: 10 games, +15
>Wednesday: 5 games, +15
>Thursday: 14 games, +15

Tenhou is a fucking torture I hurt my finger playing so many games today just to gain a positive score.

>>14587822
There's a player called M who got to the max rank, janseni in just 320 games.

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>>14587822
>mfw 1300+ matches played but still a middling player

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>>14588066
> gaining a positive score these days
> still complaining

>>14588083
You just weren't meant for greatness by God.

>>14588095
B-But surely I can tap into the power of never giving up and surpass my potential?

>>14588077
I call bullshit or he was cheating. He would need winning percentages over 50% for that. It takes 159 wins without a single loss to reach tenhou rank.

>>14588083
Define "middling"

>>14588151
You can get good by studying

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>Double ippatsu ron

>>14588155
He had 283 1sts, 37 2nds, 0 3rds and 0 4ths He was truly a Muteki no Hito

>>14588155
>Define "middling"

Not as good as the monster players.

>>14588161
It's `na', not 'no'.

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>>14588161
I don't suppose there are links to his replays laying around? Needless to say that's an incredible record.

>>14588161
So yeah, he was cheating.

>>14588192
There's a 3 million JPY reward if you can prove he was cheating. He has a good memory and watches games all day so he can do accurate reads

>>14588233
Man even the strongest player can't stop the luck of another player. It's hard to believe he didn't even get a single 3rd place finish. Nobody is that lucky.

>>14588233
Doing accurate reads only means that, at best, you'll avoid dealing in. It doesn't somehow prevent other players from getting good hands.
With that being said the record is still in the realm of possibility, although the probability is incredibly low, nearly impossible.

I thought tenhou had an anti-cheat mechanism that look at the minimum number of 4ths a player has at certain points based on statistical possibilities.

Forget where I read this, but is it wrong?

>>14588240
>>14588245
git gud losers

>>14588233
Well proving that he cheated is difficult if he did it carefully.
Anyway, I am a believer in math, and math tells me that he cheated. There is a common saying that a world class player who plays with okayish amateurs will get a winning percentage of roughly 1/3. This guy had to play most of his games in Houou where the players are surely better then amateurs. But lets ge generous and say that he still was so incredibly good that he could manage to have a 1/3 chance to win each game there. Fuck lets even give him a 50% chance to win each game. This alone is basically impossible, because that's simply the kind game Mahjong is: There is a lot of luck involved, especially in winning. It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't get any hands capable of winning you might not end up in last place because you not deal in since you are so good at tile reading, but no matter how good you are, you are not going to win the round. That's why a 50% win chance is already an extremly generous assumption. Okay, now what is the probability of winning 283 of 320 games with a chance of .50. The binomial distribution tells us that it is 2*10^(-48). And this doesn't even account for the fact that all his remaining games were 2nd place which would farther decrease the probability of this happening.

>>14588278
why do you play a game where the best player loses 70% of the time?

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>>14588159
What idiot fell into that?

>>14588283
Because it's fun

>>14588283
Not getting 1st place =/= losing. Getting in 4th place = losing.

>>14588286
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016010800gm-0009-7447-a2f9880d&tw=2&ts=3

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>>14588286
Me

>>14588296
Nah, for mahjong losing = not making money. Everyone here is most likely losing at mahjong

>>14588296
If you aren't first you're last

>>14588303
>not discarding 1-pin

>>14588303
>no throwing 1p right here
Well deserved lose.

>>14588307
>How to identify the scrub

>>14588077
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/ranking.pl?name=M

Are you sure that's the correct name? You're not just making this up, are you?

>>14588315
Who are you quoting

>>14588307
Second place is usually nice. Also if you can comeback from horrible situation to third/second place it feel much better than some lucky wins.

>>14588296
If you don't win you lose idiot

>>14588329
You

>>14588333
>The mindset of the sub 1500R people.

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>>14588320
No. There was a manga about, a mangaka wouldn't just make stuff up right?

>>14588339
Who are you quoting

>>14588345
You

>two-week losing streak finally broken

Now to get back to 1600 from 1375...

>>14588356
Can we all agree that 2016 has been shit tier for mahjong?

>>14588362
New Year just begin, it will be better right? ;_;

>>14588278
He definitely cheated. Unlike in real mahjong you are limited to reading discards and your own luck in making hands. Even with the most efficient hand building skill in existence you can fail to get to tenpai if you have shit luck.
In real life at least you can remember where you put the tiles if you are making the wall manually or read other people habits, expression and stuff.

>>14588392
>>>14588362
>New Year just begin, it will be better right? ;_;

We're all gonna make it, brah

>>14588362
You are getting all your losses in the beginning of the year. Rejoice, because the rest of the year will be filled with wins.

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>>14588501
It won’t.

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I am starting to feel like my superpower is finishing penchan waits. I will often get the 7 or 3 during the hand given that I have 89 or 12. Mostly happens after I discard the 12 or 89, though.

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>>14588578
My bad, I messed up the ss so you couldn't really see the standings in regards to points.

>>14588578
Good for you always when I try something like this, the title I need is in dead wall.

>>14588501
Well, if only my luck come back for April and September I'm fine with it.

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>thinking this year's mahjong will be shit

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>>14588925

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>>14589146

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>>14589163

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My resolution was to get R1800 but I've just been fluctuating around 1650. It's gone from 1656 to 1651 and that's it.

At least I'm not getting severely assfucked by the gods of luck like some of you nerds.

>>14589196
Have you read any theory? If you read most stuff on the english sites, you should end up about 4-5d

>>14589196
Rigged! Tenhou is discriminating foreign IPs. Baka gaijin must not win.

>>14589146
>>14589163
>>14589174
kek, good references.
I've been meaning to read this, but where do I find it? Why isn't it on madokami

>>14589311
>kek
Kill yourself, sub-human.

>>14589316
Never fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread.

>>14589332
>Never fucking reply to me again unless...
Are you the high-priest of shitposting or something? This may surprise you, but using common shitposting words doesn't mean you're "contributing" to anything either. It means the opposite.

>>14589332
Now now! No need to be so mean! We are all mahjong friends here! Aren't we?

All except for Gogo

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I was about to win with Daisangen and this guy wins by tsumo with his cheap ass hand.
This is kuso.

>>14589476
I'm gonna teach you a lesson RIGHT NOW

Get on tenhou NERD

>>14589404
>getting this mad over nothing
Are you on a bad Tenhou streak or something? You're only making things worse for yourself f a m.

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>>14589476
Das rite. Gogo is not our friend, he is our leader.

>>14589567
>f a m
I thought /jp/ was safe from these kind of retards.

>>14589521
>already record you twice

>>14589574
>still getting mad
>not understanding that I'm provoking you on purpose
Again, you're only making things worse for yourself, _____

>>14589516
Kill all gomi players.

Once I managed to hit one guy who had been pissing me off with shitty hands with a Kokushi. Felt good.

>>14589584
Different guy, shitposter. Quit outing yourself as a newfag.

>>14589637
One does not become a different guy by claiming that he is a different guy.

That was fun

As always, thanks for the assist Gogo.

>>14589647
And one does not become the same guy simply because he shares an opinion.

4th again. Good game though.

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My lesbian power is winning whenever Gogo challenges me

>>14589655
You just got lucky, third place was rightfully yours

>>14589665
REMATCH

>3:0

This orgy needs one more lesbian.

>>14589667
>lucky
I chose the worse wait and won with it. That was skill. If the Ura-dora had been stacked like they should have been, I'd have taken first.

>>14589655
Then maybe you should stop thinking that your opinions regarding such a retarded dispute are worth a damn. You're only going to come off as stupid if you involve yourself in something stupid.

>>14589683
Also, the second I try and join the 3:0, my spot gets taken. This proves I'm not lucky.

Wow, just played the most bullshit game in my entire life. If you think that you're out of luck, then sorry, but try to beat this. Fuck you tenhou!

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016010807gm-0089-0000-643e3154&tw=3

This game is stupid and shitty

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>>14589708
B-san is a hacker.

>>14589754
That isn't even a super rare hand.

>>14589754
It's not even the worst - just look how the other players played. If I lose that way to better players, it wouldn't hurt that much. But kamicha and shimocha were retarder. I just don't deserve this bullshit ;_:

Fuck off

I'm back, baby.

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>>14589708
>Calling riichi with a yakuman tenpai while already leading this late in game
He did not deserve it.

>>14589771
Not so much as the hand itself as getting it while leading that much.

How do you guys read discard ponds in the short amount of time tenhou gives you? I can read them kinda okay when playing the single player flash client since I got time, but tenhou moves really and I end up discarding at random sometimes.

Anybody got any tips to deal with this? Is there like a quick checklist to look for at a glance or something? The only time I can read hands somewhat reliably is when the opponent has his hand open.

>>14589845
I usually look at others discards and think about what to discard next on their turn. It's usually enough time.

That was a gay game

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>>14589865
That's because you were in it.

Will Gogo ever get out of 3rd?

https://youtu.be/foiPX3VW_YY?t=4m16s

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>hit tenpai, keep it dama
>Next turn, keep it dama
>Next turn call riichi
>Ippatsu tsumo

I legit had a feeling I had to call riichi there. Fucking sand.

>>14589874
This is a video on how to not be a faggot, right? Why'd you post it here?

>>14589921
You're supposed to watch the 04:16 part

>>14589921
You're right, we can't be fixed

>>14589930
>4:16
Was he trying to imitate that Kaiji pachinko machine?

>>14589937
There's a Kaiji part where he plays mahjong, you know.

>>14589947
Yeah the one the pachinko machine is based off of, although 17 steps isn't real mahjong

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>>14589937
There's something called manga you know.

>>14589954
>Yeah the one the pachinko machine is based off of
What the hell are you talking about? The Bog is part 2, Minefield is part 3.

>>14589973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SGBX3xKwFo

He means this.

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>>14589196
Wait till you're bouncing around in the 1700's.

>>14589981
Oh, now I realize I misread his post at >>14589937.

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>>14589874
Excluding the Kaiji part this guy is a huge no fun allowed faggot.

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http://riichi.dynaman.net/RiichiBooks/RiichiBook1.pdf

This book may be relevant to you interests.

Is there a general rule for when I should pon winds/dragons? It seems like 90% of hands can't use either when open.

>>14590052
Always.

>>14590052
Any dragon pon qualifies your hand for the yakuhai yaku. If you're going for yakuhai, always call them.

Winds only qualify your hand for yakuhai if they're your seat wind or the round wind. Only call on them if they're your seat or the prevailing wind if you have no other yaku.

>>14590052
A wise lesbian once told me that opening your hand is like opening your legs. I'm not a slut, so I don't open my hand for just anything. Are you a slut?

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>>14590079
>Are you a slut?
Did you really have to ask?

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Is it weird that I sometimes want to kill people because of mahjong?

I legit had to bust out the whiskey to calm down after yYET ANOTHER asspull 4th place. I'm getting real tired of this shit

>>14590143
I mostly want to kill myself because of it

>>14590150
Cheer up anon. At least you don't need to paid for tsumo yakuman when you were oya.
Also lost 46300 points in last four games because of opponents tsumos. I just fucking hate when my real opponent is wall and not the other players.

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>>14590143
If it's 7447... why so serious?

If it's ranked... go get your weapons.

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>kan to seal one of my winning tiles
>discards one of my winning tiles if i hadn't went for iipeiko

at least i didn't deal in.

>>14590197
Correct me if I'm not seeing something, but the five wouldn't be a winning tile if you had kept the 7. You would have either a 3/6 pin wait if you threw the 4 pin, or a 4 man/4 pin wait if you threw the 5 pin.

>>14590242
Oh, no, you're right. Either way I don't think I was allowed to win.

>>14590174
>implying I wasn't full betaori during oya, only to. Get fucked by tsumo

Of course, my double riichi goes on so long that east manages to magically draw a 3han hand while avoiding me

Fuck the wall

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>>14590485
>3han
Quit your bitching.

>>14590505
only yakuhaix3 toioi, mangan.

>>14590561
yakuhaix3 is a yakuman.

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>>14590561

>>14590505
Well, you had shitty wait here, so I doubt you would win this one.
On the other side - pushing yakuman agains daburu with that huge advantage in points is retarded idea and should be punished by dealing into one by himself.

>>14590618
His staring hand only had one pair of chuns, a haku, and a hatsu. Either he was pushing with yakuhai only, or he really, really felt something.

>>14590580
>pungs

>>14590681
Flow is real

>>14590681
That's why it's so retarded amd should be punished. He had perfect hand for defence but instead he went all in and started to call it one after another.
If only you had a better wait he propably would lost his yakuman, points advantage and, later, the game.
I really hate players like him - shitty but lucky.
Better luck next time anon.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv248131112

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>>14590730

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>>14590571
Not every yakuhai ×3.

>>14590798
You don't know the difference between yakuhai and fanpei, do you?

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>>14590808

>>14590758
Who is that chinese person and why is he losing

>>14590831
ASAPIN, the first max rank tenhou player

>>14590849
He sucks

>>14590831
Does he do this often? I know just enough Japanese to enjoy watching him panic whenever someone calls on a tile while he's close to tenpai. Do all Japanese males have the same innate cuteness Hiro has?

>>14590831
Hiroshima nagasaki, founder of 4chan

>>14590808
In case that I didn't know, which I do know, what would you answer if I asked you, what's the difference betwen yakuhai and fanpai? But it's not like I'm asking it or anything, because I totally know.

But in the case I didn't, what would the difference be?

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I’ve found a strange thing when I checked the replays tab—when I play from my desktop I have four consecutive losses, while on my laptop I have four consecutive wins. I’ve just played on my laptop and felt like it would be another loss, cause it was like the previous times– my hands worth several han didn’t made it to agari or someone had riichi’d before I could. But I always went betaori continuing to swearing heavily and just with a couple of hands at the end (not even consecutive or while being oya) I managed to bump the kamicha from the first place. Feels good.
To all those who also had massive losses: the start of 2016 seems to be raising the plank on tile efficiency and betaori. You can win if you keep your seat maximum safe. Go for shit hands even if all you have is two-three dora and a simple yaku. If you have time, you can develop it a bit longer, but getting ready first is extremely important.

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>>14590808
http://arcturus.su/wiki/Yakuhai
No. Tell me.

>>14590853
pretty much every day this week

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>my own tile inefficiency saves me from dealing in

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>>14590864
>>14590882
I blame the other guy. I've only seen it used to refer to the dragons, and he implied it too.

>>14590865
If you play tenhou on different devices, the games recorded on said devices differ.

It looks like you lost four times in a row the last time you played on your desktop, but you won four times in a row when you last played on your laptop.

Also, thanks for the advice. I'd rather win big hands but I guess this is causing me to not excel in 2016.

>>14590942
Thank you, captain Obvious. The point was that maybe playing on desktop, on a big display, somehow causes the nerves to shatter faster. I play tenhou fullscreen on both devices, if anything.

>>14590996
No, it was just you getting lucky on your laptop.

>>14590865
>two-three dora and a simple yaku
>shit hand

Bitch even a 3900 hand is a big deal if you're playing against the crazy monster players, let alone a hand with 2-3 dora like you said.

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>>14590505
>yakuman against double riichi

To be fair, double riichi was the right call. You just happened to get fucked.

>>14590738
You need to stop getting salty at occult players.

How many matches have you fags played this month?

>>14590006
Yeah, no. Everything shown in that video is extremely annoying and disrespectful. Of course you can do whatever the fuck you want when playing with friends, but like every game mahjong also has rules of etiquette for people you don't know.
Also, some of them are not ironclad absolute no-nos either. For example if everything is going in a friendly atmosphere and the others are alright with it, there's no reason why you couldn't talk about what happened at X stage of the hand, or see the other players' hands. But if people don't care about it and want to keep the rythm going, you have to accept and move on, which is what will generally happen in jansou against people you've seen for the first time in your life. Also while literally slamming tiles is tolerated only in yakuza circles, playing them with slight force doesn't necessarily make people want to kill themselves; the JPML league has a pro that pretty much always does that, but never actual slamming.

If you want some real nofun allowed check this out: plebbit com /r/Mahjong/comments/2nniag/the_unwritten_code_of_riichi_mahjong_written_for/
It's not that what he says is wrong, as most of it is perfectly sensible etiquette, but just look at the way it's worded.

>>14590505
THIS is some bullshit.

>>14591979
>"Kaiji" [a.k.a. shut the fucking fuck up]
Why is he so angry?

>>14591988
I feel like he cannot into manga.

>>14590618
>>14590738
Nothing says that you must play by common sense only though.

>>14591979
First things first
>Going to plebbit
There's so much passive aggression in this. Pretty much "Don't be a dick, but be as close to a dick as is socially acceptable and suspect everyone of cheating." How can you segue from "NEVER EVER BREAK THE WALL" to "Break the wall if you think someone's cheating." Why not just confront them outright.

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Is it possible to find any riichi to my old 240x320 mobile phone with Java?
I have only managed to find this chinesse shit, but this is extremely boring.

>>14592005
p-pls I found it while googling something else man.

>How can you segue from "NEVER EVER BREAK THE WALL" to "Break the wall if you think someone's cheating." Why not just confront them outright.
I guess this might be explained the way it was done in Tetsuya, where confronting might mean nothing if you don't have proof. However, he overlooks an important thing which is that cheating at mahjong isn't something everyone and their dog can do, and that it would be a terrible breach if you broke the wall of that guy who has been on a winning streak yet was actually not cheating.
Most if not all cheating can be avoided by agreeing beforehand that any tiles that get overturned must be immediately put back down, that shuffling must be done carefully to maintain tiles face-down, and that players should pick tiles from the entire pool and not just in front of themselves. These are all pretty easy to do.

>Pretty much "Don't be a dick, but be as close to a dick as is socially acceptable and suspect everyone of cheating."
Couldn't put it better myself. The 3 videos he links to (the crazy guys at the table and the 2 anti-manners videos) are how an article like this should be written. They all use humor and are aimed at showing something to the audience instead of having this kind of paranoid and accusatory tone.

>>14590038
>Obakamiiko
yey

1:0

>>14590038
Think I caught an error in 3.3.1 for the ryankan example.

It says keeping the 246p ryankan by discarding 5m from 455m means the hand would always be pinfu when it is ready, but that is obviously wrong if you complete the ryanmen for tenpai.

I wouldn't know where to report this, so whatever.

>>14592257
You can email the author at [email protected] as it's written at the beginning

>>14592257
If you complete the 45m ryanmen first, you still get pinfu if you win with 8p, but not if you win with the 5p.

>>14592269
>>14592305
Actually, you do get pinfu with 5p as well, so I was wrong, there's no error after all.

>>14591958
dunno

10?

>>14592312
You don't: 5p ends up counting as a middle wait, which gets you han, and eliminates pinfu.

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>>14591958
Way too many.

>>14592019
No

>>14592315
*which gets you fu

>>14592315
No, that was my initial confusion as well.

You would discard 2p for tenpai to wait on 58p.
Or you would complete the 246p ryanmen and wait on 45m.

I think the author just need to clarify that point a little.

>>14592317
This is sad.
Maybe anyone know some japanesse sites with java games to old mobiles?

>>14592321
*wait on 36m.

>>14592321
No, you count as having completed a middle wait regardless. Because you can divide the pinzu into this: 4-6p + 567p
Try it: http://tsumo.ca/tsumo/Mahjong_calculator/calculator.html

>>14592321
*ryankan

Fuck my typing.

>>14592327
245667p can be divided into 456p and 67p when you discard 2p.

Therefore, your tenpai wait will either be 36p or 58p, leading to pinfu.

>>14592325
There are none

Just flash

Buy yourself an android and you can play pokemon go too

>>14592329
36m****** or 58p

Goddamn it I'm not even drunk.

>>14592329
It can be divided into 456p and 67p AND 46p and 567p
Which gets you a middle wait and no pinfu. Because getting fu overrides not getting fu, just like how higher han values made of same tiles overrides lower han values.
The tool I linked to makes no errors, you can try it for yourself and see if it gives you pinfu with the 5p.

>>14592316
>52 games already

Well, holy shit.

>>14592336
Sorry, but I think that calculator is wrong here.

Why would getting more fu override having yaku from pinfu? It's literally the only yaku unless you get menzen tsumo.

>>14592349
Well you're wrong

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>>14591604
> bitch yo shit fuck nigga muh hand bitch ain’t shit u mufugga shit fuck cunt bitch

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>>14592350
http://mahjong.onevis.net/

Here's another calculator that shows you both scoring possibilities. You're saying that it would default to the lower-scoring one with 1 less han.

>>14592341
Well, when I keep losing I always want to avange it, usually by playing hot-headed and losing even more. It's a very bad habit.

>>14592316
Hey we almost have the same amount of games played.

13+16+12+10 = 51戦

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>>14592357
Well, yeah. For example, everyone knows ryanpeikou gets overwritten by chiitoitsu, that's why it's such a rare yaku.

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>>14592365

>>14592357
On second thought you should be right, I thought that the first fu count would be decisive but there's no reason for the fu and han to not be taken together, and decided via han value as usual. Another calculator I tried also gave it pinfu.

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>>14592363

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>>14592409
Yup. This is what losing streaks and suffering are made out of. Luck has nothing to do with it. It's all in the mind-set.

>>14592363
>always want to avange it

This. I can't rest easy if my daily point gain is still not in the positive.

>>14592431
Well, for me it's usually that (un)luck begin the circle. For example you have great game and nice lead and then somehow one of your opponents keep winning by quickly tsumo as oya in orasu when your hands are garbage. Sure, second place isn't bad, but you know that you deserve more.
It was certainly unlucky situation, but then if in next game one of your opponents get tsumo haneman in E1 when you were oya with another garbage hand, it's very hard to keep your composure.
In this month I had way too many similar situations and even when I know that luck sure is not on my side, I always feel that my game is somehow off. It sure wouldn't save me from so very unlucky games >>14589708 , but I have feel that it could help me to reduce the lose.

>>14592479
>second place isn't bad, but you know that you deserve more

No anon you don't deserve more. If you already got 2nd place in your first game of the day get the hell out of L0. Play again the next day.

3:0

>Gogo

Okay so I'm not from this board but I've been in the last few threads. Who is Gogo and why is he a joke figure here?

>>14592522
He sucks and has the highest deal in rate on 7447.

>>14592525
>highest deal in rate on 7447

How much?

>>14592522
Just one of the best /jp/ players

>>14592526
0.5 or something. Nah but for real, he's gotten a lot better recently than when I first saw him play.

>>14592527
/jp/ players all suck anyway.

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>>14592554
I think I'm good

yameroooooo

>>14592574
But that's not you.

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>>14583138
too bad all my winning tiles were in other people hands

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>>14592583
It says you right there

>>14592602
Thing that pissed me off was that I riichi'd by mistake.

Does the paid client really have an advantage over the browser version in-game?

>>14592619
No. I used the browser flash economy version and I'm getting by just fine.

>>14592357
I just noticed but, this >>14592350 wasn't be by the way. What the fuck.

Fuck this shitty kusoge. It rewards bad players all the time and any advantage you get by knowing strategy is only marginal at best.

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>>14592672
You have to look at the long term rather than the short term. Luck evens out, and your skill will be reflected over time, whatever level it may be. Obviously it's possible that you might lose a few games here and there due to luck, but if mahjong weren't such a chaotic beast it wouldn't be nearly as interesting.

>>14592672
>It rewards bad players all the time

Actually, it punishes bad players all the time.

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>>14592679

>>14592672
It's not our fault that you're playing shit games.

Take for example chess as comparison. A beginner will not win against an intermediate player even a single time. In comparison, when playing mahjong, as long as you know the basic rules, you can win by sheer luck if you avoid all too obvious mistakes.

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>>14591958

Left is general lobby, right is upper.

send help, too many losses.

>>14592685
>A beginner will not win against an intermediate player even a single time

12 years ago I won once against my friend who was good enough to be a school representative.

>>14592714
So he let you win or you're as good as him. Not luck in the sense of Mahjong.

>>14592714
He was shit then

>>14592685
A game that isn't 100% dependent on skill isn't necessarily shit.

>>14592690
Post replays of dan lobby games.

>>14592739
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016010901gm-0089-0000-0a1f795d&tw=1

Just played this one. I probably should have pushed in E3 and I slowed my hand down too much in E3 bonus hand 2. Just don't want to deal in anymore since it's gone up like 5 % starting this month.

>>14592722
>A game that isn't 100% dependent on skill isn't necessarily shit.

I just prefer it like that. What's the point of devoting your life to something that doesn't do you any good, because you're still going to lose just as often as you win? If I wanted that, I'd leave my room and face reality.

>>14592793
>because you're still going to lose just as often as you win?
Good thing that's not mahjong.
Also, unless you're a genius, in high level competitions of games that actually remain competitive (like Go) you will also get rekt very very often, sometimes just 2 minutes into a game, by fellow players around your level. Sometimes even by exceptional players below your level due to a single error.

>>14592685
Why do people keep comparing mahjong against chess? chess has no element of luck, it's all strategy.

If anything, mahjong is more comparable to poker.

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>>14592793
>If I wanted that, I'd leave my room and face reality.
Mahjong is a microcosm of life, after all. You either gather your courage or resign yourself into being a "loser".

>>14592765
>I probably should have pushed in E3

No. With hindsight pushing looks wise but what if this is another round and the 3m was his winning tile? You would've lost that round all for the sake of pushing your 1000 points hand.

>E3 bonus hand 2
>slowed my hand down too much

It's good that you realize this. You weren't even in deep shit so there's no need to prioritize value over speed.

>>14592817
I don't know, but a board game is a board game, right? Besides, the point IS exactly that luck plays no role in chess.

>>14592823
Thank you for the honest advice, anon. I think it helps.

Okay, here are my humble opinions. Please correct me if I missed something about your intentions for certain discards.

>>14592765
E1:
- Why did you discard 1m over the useless 2p? You had a chance for ittsuu there.

E2:
- West Wind was useless, should have been discarded before 9p imo

E3:
- Why discard your seat wind before the south wind?
-Why discard 2m over 9P
-Why discard 9p over chun? You already had a yakuhai, so you should push for speed and one chun was already out.
-Why discard 6m over 6s? With the 6s you could have called a pon with either 6s or 2p and keep the others as your pair.
- Good choice to defend against that riichi despite having a ryanmen wait there, though.

E3 2:
- I wouldn't have opened my hand for that chi there. Your hand would probably give you only 1k point when open, no need to risk not getting a yaku if the haku doesn't come out for such a cheap hand.
- Why discard 6m over north wind? This seems totally pointless to me.

E3 3:
- Why discard 6m over 7p? With 6m you had the potential for two different nobetan waits.
- Why discard 2p over 6s? You could always discarded 2p when getting in tenpai, but by discarding it now you ruined your chance to get into tenpai by drawing another 5p.
- I would have discarded 9p over 3s. Keeping the 9p as a safer tile is fine, but there was the chance of drawing 2s or 7s in which case you could have discarded 3m/4m to update your wait from ryanmen to ryanmenten.Also, if you wanted to play it safe, discarding 6s would have probably been better than 3s since it was discarded recently.

E4:
-Why discard 2p over the useless 1m?
- I would have discarded 8s over 2s for a potential ippeikou.
- Should have discarded 9m over 8s there. 9m was an isolated terminal.

And yes, I agree that you should have pushed that hand. It looked decent both in terms of speed and value and if D had won by tsumo there was a high chance that the game would end with you in 3rd place, plus with taht points you didn't have to fear dropping to last place much.

Overall I think you have a pretty good idea of when and how to defend, but your tile efficiency seems a bit lacking, you shoudl probably work on that. Though you can't say much from just one game of course.

>>14592854
I disagree with >>14592823
Defending just because of one open meld with a decent hand is something you should only do in some occassions, like when you lead by great amount, or your opponents hand looks especially dangerous (like if he has a dora pon or something like that). Also your hands value was potentially far greater than 1k, with your 2 red fives.

>>14592885
Mmm I think what you said makes sense. I feel a bit silly about my tile efficiency, so I'll work on that! Thanks.

>>14592895
Ah, good point. I'll keep that in mind, too. Thanks ;_;

>>14592895
He didn't even have a red five nigga. The only five he had was the 5s in his 345 chi and it sure wasn't red.

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>Dat ending

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016010902gm-0089-0000-d8f11ede&tw=2

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Do you guys Riichi your Yakuman?

>>14592959
someone post the "if you're a man, you must riichi all your important hands" pic from Touhai

>>14592885
>It looked decent both in terms of speed and value
>1k points
>decent value

As I said, in hindsight it sure looks wise to push because then the round will end with him winning but in real time it's stupid as hell. Besides, ending in 3rd place is no big deal. The most important thing in tenhou is not finishing 4th.

>>14592936
Not either of them, but I think >>14592895 was talking about the last round.

On the other hand, for E3-1 I think pushing would not have been a bad idea for that first time, since he drew 3m after toimen riichiied. That had a decent chance of passing since 1) toimen had discarded two 4m early, 2) it's probably not a chanta given the other discards, and 3) it was suji but a trap was less likely because he would have waited on an honor tile for chiitoi.

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>>14592962
Fine.

>>14592966
If he was talking about the last round why did he disagree with me? The last round was E4, not E3.

>>14592979
He probably mixed up what round was being referred to there.

I guess I disagree with you though.

>>14592979
Forgot to add, in the last round the was nothing to push or fold, the toimen won with a tsumo after calling once.

I believe that anon is confused and somehow think the 4d player was him.

>>14592966
My last account was almost 5dan with R+/-1780. I always have felling that third places slow me down much more than fourth places.

>>14592990
Sorry, I mean to quote it >>14592965

>>14592990
>third places slow me down much more than fourth places

That's just your feeling and it's simply not true.

>>14592959
Don't riichi your yakuman unless it's a suuankou.

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>>14593009
Don't listen to this woman.

>>14592979
>>14592983
Yes, I mixed it up. Like I stated in my first post >>14592885 defending against riichi in E3 1 was correct. In E4 he should've played more offensively.

>>14593022
Women are better than men at mahjong.

>>14593040
Only lesbians, though.

>>14593037
Am I missing something about the E3 riichi in >>14592966? Given toimen's discards, it's fairly unlikely that 3m was dangerous. The value in being tenpai in a good wait was to stop the riichi more than the points, with the option to betaori if he drew a more dangerous tile.

>>14593068
In fact, looking at that round again, it was actually a clear mistake not to discard the 3m against the riichi. This is a case of playing too paranoid.

Two early 4m discards.
Definitely not chiitoi given that his riichi tile was a previous discard.
Definitely not chanta given his order of discards.
6m suji.
Shanpon possibility on 3m is highly unlikely given both the 4m discards and one 3m already out.

>>14593085
You can never be too paranoid in tenhou.

If the 3m was somehow the winning tile he would be the only one to lose points. If the riichi guy got a tsumo, the dealer will be the one with the heaviest loss and all is well.

Of course if he had a mangan or higher hand instead of a 1k hand it would be worth it to push.