Greeks are the same as ancient Greeks edition
>>73980373
>>73988215
Whats the background of this battle?
>>73988265
Squips gonna squip.
Better in France than here.
Macedonians are an older and different nation to Bulgarians, that's what history shows
>>73988288
Grass
>source is a fucking poet
Seems legit and definetly not made up.
Bulgarians, stop associating yourself with this scum.
You guys, and Hungarians, migrate here >>73988157
Macedonian bros can come as well.
>>73988215
Compare this to Serbshitians
Why did BW1 happen so late? In fact by all attacking the ottomans we could have got rid of them 1550, 1650, 1750..
why so late?
>>73988331
Of course. Macedonians have the blood of Alexander coursing through their veins.
>inb4 delusional Greeks say Alexander was southern Macedonian
>>73988502
Greeks literally killed more t*rks with 120 men than serbs did with an army of 70,000
Does that make you think or does it really make you think?
DEATH TO WHITES
DEATH TO EUROPE
DEATH TO THE WEST
repost for cringey tatars
>>73988122
>>73988012
for fucks sake, tatar butthurt is real
we've made a fucking shitshow of ikibey whenever he posted. He's a meme on int because of us exclusively, we doxxed him
you are whimpering faggots getting behind a diasporashit because we banter him so he can sperg out and you take the b8 instead
What are you doing lads?
>>73988631
this and whites are submissive cucks with inferior and recessive genes
Whites are submissive cucks with inferior and recessive genes
*farts*
>>73988686
this
>>73988673
This and caucasians must be exterminated
>>73988664
You are a sad, obsessed little faggot, aren't you?
repost for cringy subhumans
>>73988664
>>73988631
>>73988673
We don't banter pro-Bulgarian posters since there are so few of them.
Only subhumans and cockroaches do that.
>>73988746
this
>>73988756
stop being such a cringy shitlord
>>73988756
>obsssed
is leafbay xpozed or ikibey or a merger of both?
>>73988756
stop responding to me aspie
Macedonians are an older nation than Bulgarians who are mostly Slavic-speaking Turks
>>73988784
>implying balk is not a bulgarian hugbox already
>>>back2reddit
>>73988789
this
>>73988798
You are literally talking about me in every other post of yours. Whining and complaining. It is literally pathetic.
>>73988930
stop responding to me aspie
>>73988875
>>73988877
t. cockroaches
Back to >>>/tr/
>>73988875
>Greeks
>Identical DNA with Turks
>Call others Turks because so insecure
Top kek.
>>73988956
>m-muh reddit hugbox
>pls mr diaspora talk gud abut mi cuntry :)))
>>73988998
If you are so secure about your Bulgarian identity why do you keep making Hun vs Bulgar threads?
Do you need validation Bulgaria is the right country for you?
Insecure mongrel>>>>>>>>>>
Give me one reason why Europe shouldnt be a federation and ill leave this thread forever
Bulgar Turks + some Slavs + Ottoman Turks = Bulgarians
ancient Macedonians + some Slavs = Macedonians
>>73988215
If the Turks decided to attack these Greeks some more, they would've winded up dead as calculated: if 1,100 Turks were obliterated to 6 Greek men, then if you multiply these ratios by 10, only 60 Greek men would die while the whole Turkish invader army would lose everything. Rly makes u dink.
>>73989071
Not really. I just love both countries. Why the butthurt?
>>73989115
bulgarians are really mixed though, the eastern and south side is turkish, the western macedonian
sofia was turkish until this century
it's a shitfest
>>73989115
Turks + Turks = Southern Greeks
Bulgarian rape babies = Northern Greeks
>>73989115
Now i am 100% sure that you are in fact 100% a turkroach/alboroach posting under Greek flag.
>>73989199
yeah Bulgarians are a very mixed 'people'. Macedonians are much purer
>>73988670
is that a trap, looks suspicious
>>73989199
Pic attached is the #1 footballer in Greece. Looks like the average Greek.
>b-b-but we're not turks
>geneticists can't tell greeks and turks apart
>>73989093
It already is? Most of it at least?
>>73988502
compared to Makedons, Serbshitians are nothing
>>73989199
>>73989246
>shitposters trying to get on the bandwagon with watered down b8
>>73989246
yeah but this is a hugbox and you shouldn't say this
>>73988502
>Believing Ottoman primary sources for those numbers
>Being retarded
>>73989238
KILL IT WITH FIRE
>>73989243
Are you sure? Why would an Albo shit talk Bulgaria?
He's either an autistic Greek or a shitserb. Maybe a turkroach as well, but that's the same as a Greek.
>>73989304
τρολλάρουμε τον kαναδό, χαζέ
>>73989329
>Believing Serbian sources in general
>>73989367
αστον παιρνει k αυτος ο ηλιθιος το μπ8
>>73989329
Hello, meet fyrombei
>>73988916
THIS!
may 29th 1453. best day of my fucking life
>>73989115
> Bulgar Turks + some Slavs + Ottoman Turks = Bulgarians
Being this retarded...
Uh;
Sena Karachanak, Viola Grugni, Simona Fornarino, Desislava Nesheva, Nadia Al-Zahery, Vincenza Battaglia, Valeria Carossa, Yordan Yordanov, Antonio Torroni, Angel S. Galabov, Draga Toncheva, and Ornella Semino. "Y-Chromosome Diversity in Modern Bulgarians: New Clues about Their Ancestry." PLoS ONE 8:3 (March 6, 2013): e56779. Following its presentation at conferences in the years 2011 and 2012 (see further below), this Y-DNA study has now been released as an electronic open-access publication. The number of Bulgarian males in the final report is 808, not the 809 or 812 they counted at the conferences, so there must have been problems with 4 of the samples. The study declares, "Only individuals whose fathers were of Bulgarian origin and were born in the country were included in the study.
Excerpts from the Abstract:
"Haplogroups C, N and Q, distinctive for Altaic and Central Asian Turkic-speaking populations, occur at the negligible frequency of only 1.5%." -
"On the whole, in light of the most recent historical studies, which indicate a substantial proto-Bulgarian input to the contemporary Bulgarian people, our data suggest that a common paternal ancestry between the proto-Bulgarians and the Altaic and Central Asian Turkic-speaking populations either did not exist or was negligible."
>>73989299
This. And Greeks say that this was Greek land. Top fucking kek.
>>73989414
inshallah may islam reach the american lands and prosper too after it conquers rome
>>73989417
those are Bulgar Turks, Ottoman Turks had other haplogroups. most Bulgarians are descendants of Ottoman Turkish settlers
>>73989417
Love you Croatia
>>73988215
Why do greek sources lie about battle figures? You guys defeated 2.5 million Persians at Thermopylae too didnt you?
>>73989276
Are you fucking kidding me Hrvoje?
Maкeдoнcкaя гyбepния
>>73989207
albanians less turk than greeks
greeks BTFO back to >>>/hell/
>>73989417
>negligible
rapebabies
>>73989481
>most Greeks are descendants of Ottoman Turkish settlers
Fixed for ya, no need to thank me.
>tfw serbs will join nato in your lifetime
>tfw Bulgaria will become 1st world in your lifetimes
>tfw Bulgaria will be richer than Greece in your lifetime
>tfw there will be three Albanian states in your lifetimes
>tfw there will be a civil war in Turkey in your lifetime
>tfw there will be an european army in your lifetime
>tfw nobody will need sandnigger oil in your lifetime
>tfw Europe wont let in more niggers and sandniggers in your lifetime
Bulgarians have a lot of Ottoman Turkish blood but Macedonians don't. not the same people at all
>>73989481
> those are Bulgar Turks
No, that is a sporadic analysis of the entire Bulgarian population lol.
> most Bulgarians are descendants of Ottoman Turkish settlers
Nope.
i want to be illyrian but i stand no chance :(
if i buy illyrian wife, will my kids be considered illyrian ? or a person with a drop of slav blood cant be illyrian ? :(
>>73989628
Turcshitfia, Turkish capital of the Balkans
>>73989627
you are illyrian if anyone in your family is illyrian
>>73989276
It's a girl >>73989516
>>73989623
>nope
wrong
>>73989594
>>tfw Bulgaria will become 1st world in your lifetimes
cec'd
>>73989623
those haplogroups are Bulgar Turkic, Bulgarians have Ottoman Turkish haplogroups mostly,,,
>>73989392
> Believing that a single Serb noble could raise anything over 1500-2000 troops in the 1300s
>>73989623
We need more Croatians on this thread to save us from braindead serbs and greeks. Thanks brato.
>>73988215
>no other sources but greek
mythology and nothing more, some greeks got drunk in a tavern and produced a tale of valor
>>73989718
Yeah dude stop your rp its spammy as well
>>73989414
>ywn die defending the walls of Constantinople from muslim shitskins with the last Roman Emperor
>>73989755
that's the whole history of greece in general
in truth it was an illyrian colony
>>73989718
> Bulgarians have Ottoman Turkish haplogroups mostly,,,
No, they don't;
16% E1b1b
1% G2a
3% I1
20% I2a
1% I2b
20% J2
1% Q
18% R1a
18% R1b
1% T
>>73989594
Balkans BTFO
>>73989755
What are you mad about? Turks are as Ottoman as Kurds are Turks
>>73989602
You are really fishing for (you)s.
Is /hell/ that boring?
Have a (you) on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHGvaQMClEo
>>73989792
there were a lot of brave Macedonians and Serbs there. Bulgarians were helping their Turkic brothers :(
>>73989801
Loving the logic brato.
Unfortunately, with the current state of the Greek education system, I doubt you will be understood.
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>73989887
interesting...
>Hungary 3rd all time in Olympic Medals
>Bulgaria 7th all time in Olympic Medals
Now, taking this into consideration, and also understanding that diverse genes are stronger, tell me how I do not have the best genetics in the world. Greco-Turks gonna hate.
>>73989887
>he isn't a Bulgar
>>73989801
Haplo time?
>>73989801
>get invaded by huns
>get settled by turkic tribes
>get full of anatolian resettlements
>get settled by ottomans
hmmm
>>73989887
>>73989935
that seems correct
>>73989937
Hungarians and Bulgarians are good at sports because of Turkic blood, not a coincidence
>When you try to bait leafbey but in the end he is baiting you
>>73989977
Post african admixture then
>>73989977
What's correct is picture attached. As you can see, GR is the closest think there is to TR
>>73990044
stop responding to me aspie
>>73989994
The Croatian brother disproved your stupidity with this post
>>73989417
Bulgaria, Hungary and Croatia have futures. Greece does not.
>arber
<dardania
>ilirida
<arvanitika
>malesi
etc
is there a single country in the balkans that aren't crypto albanians?
give me one reason albanians shouldnt rule the balkans and i will leave this thread forever
>>73989937
If you remove the winter medals, we are first and second. Those asian genes paying off.
>>73990044
Can you fuck off you autistic muh heritage diaspora shit with your autistic haplogroups you autistic spaz
>>73990113
There's no Progoni dynasty that's why.
>>73990102
>Bulgaria, Hungary and Croatia
As what?
>>73990044
Bulgarians are Romanians with some Greek blood
>>73990113
>give me one reason
How about 82?
>>73989994
I guess that means Turks are 100% Greek since they are performing really shitty for people who are supposed to have Turkic blood in their veins.
I'm just gonna leave this here..
>>73990205
yes. Bulgarians preserved Seljuk Yoruk purity
>>73990187
>suddenly a Romanian responds to you
>ДA
Is there some kind of sectist rule which prohibits beys to appear at the same time? And if they do they dont attack each other, like sharks in the ocean. Ive seen ikibey and montenegrini in here at the same time and they just ignored each other.
>>73989935
Those haplogroup maps represent thousands of years of human movement, not just a few centuries of past you imbeciles.
>>73990224
full of turks AND gypsies?
are bulgarians even real?
>>73990234
Back to your hole roach
>>73990304
they are all the same guy.
>>73990144
i can die in peace when i see mbretnija shqiptare reborn stretching from the adriatic to the black sea with honorable crown prince leka as ruler
>>73990304
What if all the beys are different faces of the one same bey?
>>73990187
WRONG
bulgarians, along with romanians, albanians, kosovars and yugoslavians are all MAKEDON'D
>>73990309
thank you for your input cringeanon
maybe you can educate the aspies too?
STOP BULLYING GREECE!!!!
>>73990309
the original Croats were Turkic tribe. that's why Croats have Turkic blood
>>73990325
Hmm what's better?
Being Bulgaria and Hungary, where there are some gypsies, but they are all leaving to places like Sweden and Germany.
Or
Be Greeks, essentially Turks (mindset and genetics the same). And be broke with no future.
Hmm?
>>73990391
>the original Croats were Iranian *tribe. that's why Croats have Iranian* blood
>>73990372
Bulgarians are Romanized Serbs
in reality this comic is about the bulgars
>>73990364
I want to see the Wied dynasty, instead.
No'one of us have let them do something for the country for Christ's sake.
>>73990434
stop replying to me aspie
>>73990309
Relax,he is b8ting for (you)s and if you want to point out the flaws of his logic you should go for the obvious ones on this map, like ''What about Russia,Finland?''.
When the b8ter replies to you that this is recent movement that represents turks moving there to live you should ask him why is the million+ Turkroaches in Germany not represented.
>>73990460
what the hell is CH and why does it look like a spiral galaxy?
You cant ban me as no sexual organs are expozed on this pic
>>73990389
>>73990391
> the original Croats were Turkic tribe. that's why Croats have Turkic blood
Croats were Iranian/Sarmatian at the furthest theories, Turkic is not ever even implied.
Also, the first Tsar of the Bulgars was Asparukh, which is an Iranian/Sarmatian name.
>>73990378
his aspergers prevents him to correct anyone but a single poster he fixates himself with
don't mind him
>>73990434
>Being Bulgaria and Hungary, where there are some gypsies, but they are all leaving to places like Sweden and Germany.
>fled to Canada
Hmmm
>>73990540
chitzerland
Wow
Kek. My Bulg Aryan vs Hung Aryan thread has turned into a massive fight between Romanians and Hungarians. Wish we could get along. We're not subhuman Greeks, after all.
Beyamim adumim shel pera'ot vedamim,
Balleilot hashchorim shel ye'ush,
Be'arim, bakkefarim et diglenu narim,
Ve'alav haganah vechibbush!
>>73990549
You should be banned for giving us eye cancer
>pic related is leafbey
>>73990555
>tanned skin
>dark hair
>green eyes
FUUUUUUCK THIS IS MY KRYPTONITE
>>73990596
This is just round 1.
>>73990479
i feel bad reading the story of ol' vidi, he got placed in a pretty impossible situation with wolves all around him
>>73990677
DOSTA SO OVAA GABORETINA
>>73990664
they will all gang up on le pen in round two because the people who voted for the other candidates than her and the macron would vote for him
>>73990677
That is just unhealthy bruv.
You are developing the mindset of a stalker.
Fixating on a single woman that you are not in a relationship with is bad for you.
>>73990596
With 76 of 107 departements counted
Macron 23.17%
Le Pen 22.67%
Mélenchon 19.22%
Fillon 19.14%
>>73990657
>>73990738
kys cringy autist
>>73990746
>everyone that doesn't want lepen doesn't show up because she's just 24%
>everyone that wants lepen shows up because she's just 24%
just like brexit and trump (the good goy)
>>73990789
what? shut up retard nobody was talking to you
Lol, this is funny though.
>>73990771
Paris kicking in? She has no chance in the second round anyway.
>>73990782
Looks Brazilian, too dark tb h, post more tho i know you got some
>>73990820
Brexit and trump both turned out to be mistakes. So will le pen. It doesnt matter who you vote for, it is not changing anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6OtF7daIPM
Is this the best song for a movie ever made /balk/?
>>73990917
kek, what? trump has been doing great
>>73990886
She is moortugal, some amerilard payed a mooranon 50$ for her info.
>>73990738
Pro-Ottomans, Toptani and the south minority tensions..
And the army for him was quite shitty. He should have acted when it came for 1919's conference.
He deserves a second chance. He hasn't abdicated when he left the country.
>>73990947
great movie, too bad the sequel a shit
>>73990953
He didnt do anything as promised. He even attacked syria.
>tighten up immigration from MENA
>problem solved
>Unlike many French Socialists, including former Prime Minister Manuel Valls, Macron supports the open-door policy toward immigrants and refugees pursued by Angela Merkel in Germany.
Haaaha
>>73990975
>some amerilard payed a mooranon 50$ for her info
Kek really?
>>73990975
>She is moortugal,
fuck my boners confused, wait is it the same girl in the pic?
>some amerilard payed a mooranon 50$ for her info
Jesus Christ
>>73990975
Sara Santos?
>>73990993
ultimately i think his lineage is dead, we still have prince leka though
didn't berisha say the monarchy vote was tampered with, and in actuality the monarchy should have been reestablished by votes?
i remember seeing a program on klantv i think about leka a few months ago, do people there still care anymore about the royal family or no?
>>73990953
Are you by any chance a worshiper of a chaos god?
Only the crazies and the stupid still think that he is doing anything good.
>>73991108
Was back in 2013, and it was for this one , not the previous. Amerilard was a footfag.
>>73991117
Not same, this one is Serbian.
Brexit would have never happened without the refugees crisis. Even if le pen now doesnt win, she and Wilders were the last warning slap for the establishment. If things continue this way, and I am not only pointing at the refugees but at the ones already there and behaving like crap, then I guarantee you that more extremist politicians will appear and will get selected because the people who are pissed of muslims and niggers increase by the day, at least in Germany. Media wont be able to turn it around another time.
t. Hans
Guys, this is gonna sound wird, but anyone know the name of this oldie rock song, that goes like:
So far away, da na na, susana aaa or something like that? Sick guitar chords
>>73991206
what are you doing in bulgaria, hans?
>>73991206
Did you choose your name yet
>>73991208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQqy-XP-6KQ
>>73988447
>>73989485
>>73989755
>north korea of the middle east talking about lying
lmao
>>73991259
I live here.
>>73991276
Yes, I did. Its in the process now.
>>73991206
No need to tell us that. We've been hating on the mudslimes for a millenia now.
But nobody asked us if they should be allowed in the EU.
>>73991327
>Yes, I did. Its in the process now.
Well?
>>73991208
FOUND IT! YES! Amazing song honestly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67xj1laRtw8
>putin/medvedev saviours of the white race
>>73991149
Leka II is a complete faggot man, have you ever seen him talk?
>>73991314
>that cherry-picking
Please accept that Greece and Turkey have a massive amount of gypsy-looking sand people.
>>73991327
>I live here.
I'm coming soon, bro!
>>73991149
Probably the traditional elders.
Nowadays nobody wants the monarchy back. Constitutional or not, they are "happy" with the current parties.
But still, I wonder what would Leka do for the country itself..
>>73990820
>>73990867
>>73991108
>>73991314
I am slav you greekshit
>>73991350
I cannot post it here
>>73991402
Good for you
>>73991381
why do you reckon? what did he say?
>>73991398
damn, that sucks
communists ruined so much of the country's heritage and culture, those fucking apes
im glad bektashis are still alive and well
>>73991168
beautiful feet
>>73991495
Ok but wait I'm confused. Are you going to have a separate German and Bulgarian names or? How are you gonna do that regarding administrative procedures?
>>73991385
Turks yes, honestly when I memed around here I still did see most Turks as white. Turns out they arent. I dont know what Ottomans did but sure as hell there wasnt much of racemixing at the Balkans because, although there are few exceptions, nobody in this region is averaging a turk outlook.
Anyone noticed Afghani is gone?
Maybe he joined some plot in the Netherlands?
>>73991569
No, I took a Bulgarian last name but ill keep my first name as its not really German but rather international. Fun fact is that I got my name change approved in German court and not here.
>>73991528
There was the other candidate that I wish to see him rise... Fan Noli. Same as Wied, he fell too. But at least he was a priest of his own church in Boston. Other than that, just trouble.
>>73991528
I meant that he comes across as very effeminate, not that he has said anything particularly wrong.
>>73991699
The serbroach is gone too.He is probably hidden in a truck on his way to Germany.
>>73991722
t. Hans Georgieff
What about ID, passport, diplomas and things like that? How does that go?
>>73991699
Ikibey is gone since some days. I give him solid odds to sperg out and kill people in Germany some day, its the only real lunatic here.
>>73991747
you should have been united under our rule like in the good ol' days
>>73991836
All the shit needs to be changed. Stuff like diplomas you dont need to change necessarily, its enough if you attach the document of your name changing when submitting them somewhere.
>>73991722
so why did you come here?
>>73991777
It was Bogdan anyway
>>73991920
Any problems you expect to have because of this?
>>73991777
>>73991720
>>73991853
no, you would make it worse. Worse than in 1912-1913.
Do you want to make Tucovic's quotes true, again?
>>73991934
I came for the career opportunities and decide to stay because I feel home, like this is the place for me. Besides, I really honor that you can say your opinion freely here and the pride people have in themselves. Its all stuff a German nowadays doesnt know even exists, to say fuck jews or say im proud of my country is unthinkable behavior in Germany.
>>73992009
why would you think that? we did what we must, we killed muslim scum who supported the ottomans and resisted the liberation
isn't that good thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU9WgD3jZIc
>>73992009
>Tucovic
lmao
>>73991981
Thats not the autist though, its a regular serb
>>73992117
Oh you mean that other one without any trip
Probably busy in there so can't shitpost here
>>73991981
I dont think so. Obviously my family in Germany wasnt excited, but I dont care about it. Its my life and important is that I do what I need to be happy. Im expecting a child now anyway and I have a solid job, I dont need more.
>>73992061
That's awesome man. You're a good person Hans. And I'm sorry for Germany, but hope things get better in the future. Unfortunately, things need to get worse before they get better.
>>73992066
>you
>liberating
Haven't you learn that the liberation comes from its own people and not by the others? I guess not.
..
>>73992104
Dimitrije Tucovic. One of serbs who opposed the interfering to the Albanian soil.
>>73991843
ikibey posted yesterday in /hell/ calling everyone losers and retards
>>73992295
you don't realize that ottomans had to be expelled from the balkans for once, you can't decide to stay their province while the whole balkans was liberating from them. that's not how it works...
>>73992061
are you an ethnic German or do you have bulgarian roots?
>>73992386
Im ethnic German from Stuttgart region
>>73992207
awesome, good to hear you're doing well
>>73992295
>Haven't you learn that the liberation comes from its own people and not by the others? I guess not.
>>73992357
We were working on it by ourselves. We didn't gave up a delegation to travel to Constantinople and then to Viena to make both of the officials force to recognize a newborn country.
Did I miss the shitfia hate thread again?
>>73992523
yeah that's why we had to push turks through albania in order to finally expel all of them. you didn't do shit
>>73992436
assuming youre not larping, what do you honestly think of germany's future as a german? would you agree with the worst prediction?
>>73992579
albanians waged a huge revolt that captured skopje and forced the ottomans to recognize an autonomous vilayet and concede to all their demands, in what ways did albanians not do shit?
whats next, albania is an austrian invention, thats next on the list right?
>>73992628
you didn't fight for it nigger. diplomacy was never a solution for solving the ottoman conflicts, since they NEVER wanted to leave this place
>>73992584
I dont know, im rather pessimistic because of all the brainwashing there, but slowly there is some kind of waking up. Might be too late though.
>>73992579
Because the instant the Ottoman pulled out you and the other propped up puppets would swarm in and tear the country apart. Autonomy was the only realistic option.
>>73992628
>albania is a result of an austrian and italian invention*
>>73992579
We didnt raise up the flag in Vlore as a sign that we were an independent nation, just for some fresh air.
You destroyed the Turks in Kosovo and Vardar. While they had no troops stated in Albania at all..
By that, how did you reach Durres? Any fightings while you got there? Huh?
Also, the Battle of Lume proved that you came in our soil as butchers and not liberators.
>>73992673
It is never too late.The Balkans are a proof of that.
>>73992732
A proof for what, exactly? (not Hans, btw)
>>73992721
>While they had no troops stated in Albania at all..
from where did you pulled this out? look up Battle of Shkoder
>>73992664
>military revolt in a large land mass and capture skopje
>didnt fight for it
>kaçak bands active across the entire albanian territory help keeping albania's independence intact
>didn't fight for it
>defeat italy in war to solidify independence even years later
>didn't fight for it
you guys are so retarded when it comes to history that its just physically painful to argue with you about it, i dont know why anyone wastes their time including myself
>>73992749
>A proof for what, exactly?
That it is never too late?
Albania and Croatia are the countries I know least about historically. I find it amazing that the Croats and the Serbs speak one language although Croatia is pretty old as well. Its weird that they didnt develop some own kind of variation of the south slavic languages but speak slavic instead.
>>73992732
>The Balkans are a proof of that.
Yeah look how great an example of unseen prosperity this region is. Truly something for admiration.
>>73992783
*speak serbian instead I meant
WHILE THE ENEMIES OF THE EMPEROR STILL DRAW BREATH THERE WILL BE NO PEACE
>>73992778
>>military revolt in a large land mass and capture skopje
wew, such achievement
>>kaçak bands active across the entire albanian territory help keeping albania's independence intact
kek, this is bullshit story really
>>defeat italy in war to solidify independence even years later
italy wasn't even mentioned in this discussion and somehow you're bringing up that out of sudden
face it, you did exactly nothing which would force ottomans out of your and the surrounding lands, you aren't even mentioned in the battles of the balkan wars, literally 0 times. that's how you were relevant
>>73992861
fuck off loyalist shill
>>73992861
>turret syndrome legion
>>73992821
I see that you are not following the conversation or you simply don't understand what we are talking about.
>>73992861
We is gonna stomp da universe flat and kill anyfink that fights back. we're da Orks, and was made ta fight and win.
>>73992900
THE ONLY GOOD HERETIC IS A DEAD HERETIC
>>73992761
The troops in it were scattered just a few months after that siege when Essad surrendered to Montenegro. The rest was peachy.
>>73992821
What is it you miss? Are you hungry? Are you oppressed? Are you lacking anything you need?
>>73992881
Battle of Lume
You lost to some kachaks that made Jankovic thirsty for blood.
>>73992861
>spess mahrines chapters evah
u git be kiddin me
>>73993016
okay i'll give you that, it was right before the moment you got your independence
>>73991579
>honestly when I memed around here I still did see most Turks as white.
Same, and I'm a Turk.
Turns out 90% look like Armenians, Kurds or downright Arabs.
Being inbred doesn't help either.
The end of the EU will be the birth of some kind of Balkan federation. The good thing is that were more or less equally poor, so jealousy and immigration wont be an issue.
>>73992925
You mean the BDSM legion
>>73993080
are you from deliorman by any chance
>>73993040
orks are nig nogs
>>73993100
>and people wonder why everyone prefers orks or chaos
This is one ugly ass spess marine.
>>73993150
Nope, East Thrace.
Why? :3c
>>73993067
The battle lasted 2 months, though. And the independence was declared while the battle was ongoing.
>>73993257
yes, but in that period the ottomans were long gone
>General Janković ordered the annihilation of the Luma tribe where the Serbian army massacred an entire population of men, women and children and burned 27 villages in the region. Following the Serbian offensives of 1912-1913, Luma was the area that experienced one of the most appalling atrocities committed against the Albanians. Luma tribe was practically decimated and went near to ceasing existence. Women and children were tied to bundles of hay and set on fire before the eyes of their husbands and fathers. The women were then barbarously cut to pieces and the children bayoneted.
>>73991579
This is why i cant admit Bulgarian Turks as Turks. It just doesnt fit.
>>73993241
some guy claimed to be from deliorman area and posted with german flag a while ago and i was wondering if that was you.
>>73993158
>>73993284
Wtf man, why did they do this? Sickening desu
>>73993186
Thats Rogal Dorn the primarch you tasteless faggot, space marines look the best
>>73993338
Shut up tatar don't question these holy acts.
>>73993338
serbs gonna serb
>>73993292
some bulgarian turks can be brown tho but even those don't look like anatolian subhumans
When you do the street sign captcha, do you mark only the sign itself or also the structure holding it?
>>73993284
reading about what they did suppresses any empathetic side of me and makes me glad they were utterly cleansed from kosovo
truly scum
>>73993284
source wikipedia, references to: http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts20_1/AH1913_6.html
kek
>>73993365
I don't know what a street sign captcha is.
>>73993338
Yes
t. Tonibler Shiqperoni Arbeni
>>73992721
That's what I like to see Briken. Fuck the turks. You guys are ragheads, but you aren't cockroach tier. Good man Granit.
>>73993275
We forgot the siege of Shkoder. That siege was ongoing. Apart from that and the clash of Lume the Jankovic army itself marched without resistance.
The end of the story.
>>73993284
Yer having a laugh there?
>>73993374
Yeah because we all know how albos were peaceful and dandy during the ottoman era and totally not sucking dick and participating in suppression of the christian resistance.
>>73993351
>space marines look the best
naaah
>>73993354
Just don't comply if we try that experience on your people, Kodoshvski.
>>73993374
all the sources of that atrocities came from austro-hungarian authorities who were anti-serb oriented as always and were on the side of albanians, so they came here and conducted an ""investigation"" and wrote a whole book about it to justify how cruel animals we are
really makes me think
>>73993445
>suppressing resistance is comparable to indiscriminately burning alive women and children in front of their families
sure thing radovan
>>73993092
>Balkan federation
Nah, the end of the EU would mean a new land grab between the US, Russia. Pro tip: both sides will suck very hard.
Kek, Serbs have their own war crimes Wiki page
Immediately after the annexation of Vardar Macedonia to the Kingdom of Serbia, the Slavic population of Macedonia were faced with a policy of forced Serbianisation.[33][34] Those who declared themselves to be Bulgarians were tortured, imprisoned or deported to Bulgaria.[35] Many of the high clergy of Bulgarian Orthodox Church were expelled: Cosmas of Debar (Bishop), Axentius of Bitola (Archbishop), Neophytus of Skopje, Meletius of Veles, Boris of Ohrid and others.[36]
The Bulgarian population of Macedonia was forced to declare themselves Serbian. Those who refused were beaten and tortured.[37] The worst crimes were committed by the Serbian secret military organization "Black Hand".[38] Prominent Bulgarian individuals and teachers from Skopje who refused to declare themselves as Serbs were deported to Bulgaria.[36] Serbian authorities carried out ethnic cleansing within the policy that whosoever calls himself a Bulgarian must betake himself to Bulgaria.[39] The International Commission concluded that the Serbian state started in Macedonia a wide sociological experiment of "assimilation through terror."[36]
>>73993479
yeah, and trotsky, a soviet russian kike who was totally against the serbs, and also tucovic, a serb himself b-but he was also against serbs
>>73993481
Actually, that's exactly what it meant.
>>73993479
We have carried out the attempted premeditated murder of an entire nation. We were caught in that criminal act and have been obstructed. Now we have to suffer the punishment.... In the Balkan Wars, Serbia not only doubled its territory, but also its external enemies.
—Dimitrije Tucović
..
Really..
>>73993504
>>73993531
>yeah, and trotsky, a soviet russian kike who was totally against the serbs, and also tucovic, a serb himself b-but he was also against serbs
both of them were puppets and shills, it's less unrealistic when one serb and russian claim something like that
austro-hungarians were always good with their propaganda
>>73993358
Dude, I fucking despise turko-roach subhumans. But Bulgarian Turks are some of the nicest and kind people I have ever met. They are white. They are nothing like Anatolian subhumans. They also voted 82% against Erdogan, which is great news, when in countries like Belgium they voted like 90% yes.
Remember one thing: It is the RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA that tries to divide the turks and the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. Do not fall for it.
>>73993549
i am one leaf friend and yes, you are right for the most part
>>73993284
This is literally barbaric. Turk tier. Wtf serbs?
>>73993545
kek, are you listening to yourself? how can you be this deluded?
>N-NO HE WAS A SHILL WE WUZ INNOCENT VICTIMS
desu, im kind of glad your nation is already committing demographic suicide, your government has done enough for the balkans in the last century alone
>>73993592
If they were muslims I could literally not see anything wrong with it. That's what all of them deserve.
>>73993497
I want to like Serbs. I truly, really do. But shit like this, how they tortured the people who identified as Bulgarians in Macedonia, makes me sick to my stomach. Barbarians.
>>73993592
it's just that some people have really sick imagination...
>>73993606
yes tucovic was shill, he was against the king and escaped in Vienna to not be persecuted. later on he returned. what makes you think he wasn't?
>>73993641
I dont know if one has necessarily to burn your mother in front of you or cut someone to pieces. Thats some North Korean KZ cruelty desu
>trotsky russian
60iq diaspora
>>73993670
so a serb stuck a bottle up his ass to amplify albanian-serbian conflict, was he a paid shill as well?
or when your government executed some innocent serbian teenagers in a bar and blamed it on the KLA to rev the kosovo conflict up again - were those teens just paid shills too?
i find it funny how little blame serbs will ever take for anything. i have never seen a nation collectively WE WUZ VICTIMS so fucking hard. you guys are literally american blacks in nation form
>>73993693
That is indeed true but then I remember who it was done to so any feeling of compassion is already gone.
>>73993693
"Some may question your right to destroy ten billion people. Those who understand know that you have no right to let them live."
All bolsheviks were jews. Nothing Russian about them.
>>73993780
well if that is the prevailing attitude in fyrom you're fucked
>>73993813
Why would it not be? We have lived with them long enough to know what they are.
>>73993811
all ushanka faggots are russian. nothing bulgarian about them.
>>73993811
i already said he was a kike, im only calling him russian to designate his birthplace, im well aware hes not russian
>>73993832
You border two (2) Albanian states and you've done everything you can to alienate your other neighbors.
>>73993779
nigger, i'm just talking about the facts here, it's literally not made up what i've said above about tucovic. he was AGAINST the monarchy, he shilled against it, he was fucking SJW-tier lefty scum and the ONLY person who """comfimed""" such atrocities that they happened
and because you're lacking some history lessons you now switch the points and talk about some other completely unrelated events with this discussion
So seriously? How much longer is Ivanv going to deny Zaev? He's only delaying the inevitable. Getting pretty pathetic desu. Democracy is democracy.
>>73993876
*who confirmed such atrocites that they """happened"""
>>73993871
>two (2)
You're right, but shit that was funny
Gruevski has truly been a disaster for fyrom
>>73993871
The "problems" we have with Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia are nothing compared to the Albanian problem. The Greeks repressed and commited atrocities on the people in the Aegean with brutality but you'll rarely find a man here who would hate Greeks on the same level as Albanians. That would tell you enough.
>>73993988
I wouldn't even say the problem with Bulgaria is anything major. Just stop being silly when it comes to your history and literally everything is fine
>>73993988
his point is that nobody is going to help you
>>73994033
Which is exactly my point.
>>73994039
We never needed help in the first place. If it wasn't for outside interference our little conflict would've been solved in 2001 already.
>>73994039
Actually, considering they are on a fast track to become the third albanian state, the 2 other albanian states will, and are currently helping them. :^)
Pretty sure there would be some outcry here if Macedonians get killed and the government would be forced to send peace keeping troops or something similar.
>>73993791
where to subscribe your sub 80 iq quote
>>73993693
the brutality of serbian army was caused by approximately 4 year of terror of albanian rilindja revolutionaries
>>73994108
kek
>>73994113
tank u bulgari
u are pisskiper
i read a report from a bulgarian diplomat, or perhaps official, i cant recall, that stated their interest in macedonia was bulgarians in macedonia, aka the 30 something thousand minority in that one town near the border. he made note not to refer to macedonians as a whole
pretty damning choice of words desu
>>73993876
Then how do you expect the tensions between us to rise up badly enough?
>>73994175
not to imply i know more about bulgarian attitudes than bulgarians but it was a statement in response to the macedonia situation now
>>73994211
we were always rivalries since the middle age
but i want to end this shitshow between us for once, it doesn't contribute to anything
>>73994175
Thing is that on paper 100.000 Macedonians have now Bulgarian citizenship. That 80.000 took it to travel west is clear, but still this amount on paper adds up to enough people to send forces to protect them, just like the Russians did in Ukraine.
Not to mention that all of Macedonia is widely regarded Bulgarian here and nobody cares if they see themselves as Bulgarians or not, it still is seen as Bulgarian clay so there would be a public outcry.
I just hope it doesnt come to that, war is terrible.
>>73994298
Finally, some peace. Thank you, anyway.
>>73994175
That position is held mainly because it is in correspondence to the american anti-christian position. And considering Trump is a kike whore, the US will continue to back muslim claims in Europe, while at the same time they will continue to shit on the middle east to push more shitskins towards Europe.
>>73994398
prej ka je
>>73994398
no, thank you Vuno :^)
yes i admit we did atrocities like in every war ever, but i refuse to believe they were in that large scale
also i'm glad you got that independence you wanted, our acts can't be justified about wanting to annex you in the balkan wars
>>73994459
Nga
Tepelena.
Ti?
>>73994431
The Agenda is to push radical elements into Europe who a.) radicalise the local muslims and/or b.) commit some kind of terrorism
>>73994482
>Ti?
i understood this, it's the same in our language
finally i managed it kek
>>73994431
>>73994354
i doubt there will be a war, based on 4 reasons:
1. macedonian parties seem to be concession minded
2. numbers disadvantage
3. turkish statements and interests
4. US seems to indicate that it supports albanian-bulgarian division of the nation
t. thought about many different outcomes pro
>>73994482
mendova se ishe ajo vajza
>>73994502
The agenda is to fuck the EU as much as possible, because it is - or at least was - the only real economic rival of the US. All the muslims and other scum that are flooding Europe now because of american intervention, are driving the people apart. Brexit is already a fact. At the same time, all the wars in dune coon land means no pipelines and energy diversification for Europe. So we have to buy expensive oil and gas from Putin, who the americans made our enemy. He was a friend of Europe before the US staged the Ukraine bullshit. So we're fucked big time.
>inb4 muh rasha
The russians would be doing the same shit to Europe if they could, but their country is a joke.
>>73994431
>>73994502
wahhabi/saudi influence doesnt seem to be working too well amongst albanians, although ive seen videos of some sketchy organizations
if they were effective we would see large numbers of albanians in isis but i think at its peak it was like 500 militants and over half were kosovar, almost nothing for a "muslim" population of somewhere between 4-5 million
>>73994475
It is all righty'~ (Its Gjino,btw. Vuno is taking a rest)
..
Balkans was always a mess. May god forbid any upcoming attrocity.
..
That decade was hell for everyone who lived in that time. At least we enjoyed that little peace we had after that..
>>73994545
Count the word "budala"
It makes me giggle when I hear that. In GTA IV, when Niko mentions it.
>>73994595
Cila vajze...
Vlonjate?
>>73994734
wahhabi niggers seem to be doing better among gypsies, at least here
>>73994750
Sorry to break your expectations but until the problems are resolved in the region, there will be no peace.
>>73993497
oh how cute, did we forget who burnt the national theatre in skopje with people in it?
>>73994175
>pretty damning choice of words desu
Why? What does it mean? How do you interpret it?
This thread...
>>>/x/18922656
>>73994750
>It is all righty'~ (Its Gjino,btw. Vuno is taking a rest)
so another girl? :^)
>Balkans was always a mess. May god forbid any upcoming attrocity.
agree, i just hope this ends up with as less bloodshed as possible
>That decade was hell for everyone who lived in that time. At least we enjoyed that little peace we had after that..
yeah, pretty much everyone genocided everyone with no exceptions, kek
>It makes me giggle when I hear that. In GTA IV, when Niko mentions it.
don't remind me of his voice, he sounds ridiculous because nigger who gave him voice didn't even had a proper pronunciation there. so it's even funny for us when we hear him talking
>>73994354
If Albanians try something in Macedonia, I have absolutely no doubt that Bulgaria will send troops in, at least into Eastern Macedonia. Whether or not this is a good thing, I don't know.
>>73994781
vec nje posto ktu mesa di
>>73994593
Could you explain more on you 2nd and 3rd point?
lads why is german rap so awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-oOB3xS2L8
>>73994805
>islamist gypsies
aman..
>>73994817
ironic, because your country is one of the only 2 major problems left in the region
once its divided, last will be RS, and that'll be that
>>73994851
every bulgarian knows styrofomians are a meme nationality, brainwashed bulgarians. that being said, he specifically only referred to the small minority of a few ten thousand bulgarians in the east of the country, that still identify as bulgarians
in other words, he took note not to mention macedonians as a whole
now, how it could play out is another thing as other bulgarian anons said, but that was the interpretation
>>73994672
But there is diversification. Bulgaria is building inter-connectors with every single neighbor, drilling for oil in Black Sea, and signed a contract with Azerbaijan.
>>73994995
>once its divided
One can dream I guess.
Would you like a chunk of Greece too maybe?
>>73994994
german is a nice language for rap tbqh
more ..german.... rap here, heh
https://youtu.be/gmi1RqgSmqo?t=34s
>>73994928
gjino is most tosk name to exist
it's a mans name
>>73994995
>in other words, he took note not to mention macedonians as a whole
But why is this significant?
Btw, this place is so much better after that Greek/Turk faggot went to sleep.
>>73995072
just found out that Gjini is a name for a female, duh. but (s)he sounded like a girl tho
>>73993497
>Meletius of Veles
left before the war
>Cosmas of Debar
never expelled, he was """exiled""" to kičevo because people from lazarpolje were complaining about him
>Axentius of Bitola
never touched thanks to proclaimation of nikola pašić
>Neophytus of Skopje
exiled after serbian government discovered that he was:
a) destroying historical sources
b) sending donations to his church to bulgaria
c) forbidding the priests to mention the name of serbian king
neophytos willingly left to štip, as the diplomatic notes exchanged show
>>>/pol/122458885
Legendary post kek
>>73995065
bretty good
>>73995023
That's a bunch of memes, lad. We finally, after years of sabotage, made an interconnector with Romania. They have their own gas, but not enough to supply us too. I don't think the one with Greece is ready yet, but even when ready, it still has a very small capacity. So we are still dependant on Gazprom, and probably will be for the next many years. And oil-wise we are not only getting ripped by the russians, but also by their cronies holding a fuel cartel in the country.
The only glimpse of hope is for battery technology to get better - which it looks like it will, considering that the father of the Li-Ion battery John B. Goodenough has done it again and made a better battery. It makes solar energy actually worth something, but that again is at least 10 years ahead in time.
>>73994928
Gjino is a male name, mane. whoa there...
..
True that..
..
Like a Mexican standoff with bloodshed. At least more entertaining than Hunger Games.
..
Ironically the character itself was based on a Serb Sniper from the movie Behind the Enemy lines, who was played by a Russian. Therefore the actor Michael Hollick did the same mistake as well. He did the Russian accent like the Russian actor.
At least The Last Express hired real Serbs for voice acting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpTMgV6kbIM
>>73994994
you mean french?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tvyhvB-mn0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgRTnJ_v48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIctMrwvl-4
>>73994970
cfoto?
>>73995239
Dude, you are wrong. Bulgaria will be using their own oil + Azerbaijani oil by 2020.
And the Gazprom ripping off will be relaxed, due to the renegotiations currently happening in Brussels.
Bulgaria will be fine in terms of energy. Can't say the same for Serbia and Fyrom.
>>73995170
holy fuck theres so much balkan diaspora everywhere
all those ROMANIan-americans
>>73995291
french sounds gay to me no matter how hard the rapper tries
>>73995239
And just for the record, South STream wouldn't be a negative per se, but I'm happy it looks like it won't happen. Fuck Russia. We need to distance ourselves from Russia as much as possible.
Russophobe = Bulgarophile
after reading that thread and the albania le pen thread earlier i can only conclude theres literally a 1 in 2 chance or higher that any non-balkan flag posting about the balkans at any point is some sort of balkan diaspora
i knew it was high, of course, after all these years of chans, but now im raising my estimate
>>73995369
looks like a narrow faced kelly
>>73995362
ROMANIan
Top fucking kek
>>73995369
Bruh, plz no. Enough of these kinds of people here, I don't wanna see them on /balk/
>>73995126
it's a male name
>>73995317
si cfoto?
>>73995446
cfoto po thua pra?
>>73995446
i've meant Gjino is for a male and Gjini is for a female. never mind
>>73995322
>Dude, you are wrong. Bulgaria will be using their own oil + Azerbaijani oil by 2020.
Nope. The azeri gas/oil has been talked about for decades and will never actually happen. And since global oil prices are still low, no company would start drilling in the black sea any time soon. But even if they did(they won't) it would still take a lot of time until it actually brought any benefit for the country, while it will immediately fuck our tourism industry.
And I hope they renegotiate some things, but considering the cuck politicians, I wouldn't hold my breath.
And I'm not talking about energy scarcity, which won't happen. I'm talking about energy abundance which also won't happen. And that's important because the local oil and gas prices have a direct effect on the economy of every country. Low prices of fuel mean low prices of food, clothes and any other commodity being transported. And vice versa.
>>73995472
ku permena gje foto
>>73995509
Sorry but what are your energy problems in Bulgaria exactly?
I'm off to bed now, folks.
See ya all....
G'night.
>>73995515
Shiko ato threads-at e kaluara.
>>73995483
both are male names
often used as surnames
>>73995559
i love you vuno :3
>>73995559
good night sleep tight
>>73995538
We have a fuel cartel. The price of benzin/diezel/gas is a lot higher than it should be. It's the reason Mareshki is in the parliament now, because he started his own gas station chain, with cheap non cartel fuel.
http://vmpetroleum.bg/
>>73995559
naten e mire :D
>>73995579
nig that's tepelens
>>73995857
a what? anyways vuno will be mine
>>73995857
tranny?
>>73995875
no she'll be mine nigger
>>73995916
fuck off vermin, vuno would never date a serb. she is 100% mine
>>73995935
>vuno would never date a serb
keep believeng in that
but the illyrian goddess is mine
>>73995970
why would vuno date a race of genocidal mini t*rks when she could date me instead?
her beautiful pale legs will be mine and i'm gonna kiss and lick them until my tongue goes sore
>>73996007
kek
you're pathetic nigger
i think you'll cry me a river when she goes for me in the end
>>73995875
>>73995886
poster from tepelena
the grekobulgar homo rp was less cringy than this beta orbiting
>400 posts
wew
>>73996051
i might let you watch when we fugg if you fuck off right now
>>73996055
t.vuno trying to fish for yous
its ok my pale skinned goddess, i'll do everything for you
>>73995509
Dude drilling is alreay happening. It is happening as we speak.
And the Azeri connection is happening. Contract has been signed. Stay up to date bratko.
>>73996116
you're a literal cuck
kys
>>73996157
you are the one who is going to watch so that makes you the cuck.
kys
>>73996123
They are doing test drilling. Paid articles on meme sites don't mean shit. I'm actually following this shit closely, so I'm not just being negative here.
>>73996177
it's not that i'm gonna tie her to bundles of hay and set on fire before the eyes of you if that happens
>>73996116
nigger i'm the guard worker
>>73996223
and yeah, with the finish of cutting her into pieces
>>73996224
:3 please keep talking to me vuno
>>73996223
stfu faggot, you cant do shit when im there. ill fucking cuck you
>>73996224
how's it going for you, what do you do in the free time
>>73996289
sleep and drink
>>73996345
sounds boring desu
>>73996356
serv shoe memes too