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Not posting in a brit flag edition
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>>72047472
good man
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>>72047590
Had to be done lad
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Real thread, real talk.
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>tfw no average irish gf
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Playing a game of spot the stereotype, lads.
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>tfw no right-wing Irish lolita goddess gf

Oh wait that's all of you
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bad thread
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alri /brit/ haha waheyyyy
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>>72047709
I see a fedora, fat girls and weird hair colours
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>>72047709
you think one can die from inhaling too much hair colour?
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>>72047812
I also spot manlets and nu-males.
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>>72047709
>facts. video audition line
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Best girl
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>>72047709
>Here Dail Fuckof
What did they mean by this?
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>>72047709
I thought this kind of shit was just an American thing.
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>>72047904
It's hypergaelic
it's the ultimate form of gaelic only spoken by the true Irish recognzable by their bleached hair and nose piercings
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>>72047877
What?

>>72048008
It's mainly college students for now, but this is the future that awaits us.
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>>72048008
No it's happening everywhere now but there is a containment place for this called """"""Arts"""""" school
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Frogweeb , is she the woman of your dreams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERq8xspvkoc
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>>72048355
>3D
Fell at the first hurdle.
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>>72048355
>3DPD
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http://archive.is/vAA38
>Early estimates suggest that over 3,000 people attended the march, with over 300 students joining from Trinity.
>“Turnout is way better than we expected. It’s going to get bigger and the government is going to have to listen”
From all the photos I've seen, the 3000+ figures looks highly inflated.
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>>72048008
>dublin
it is
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>>72047709
Democracy and women's rights were a mistake.
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https://archive.fo/yKlzj

Pro-choice "clash" with pro-life protesters
More liberals attacking the elderly
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lads, let me tell you about Éirepol, the thread itself is allright and i generally like NP, the fresh new memeparty they're trying to shitpost into power
but then i joined there discord, which was moderated by a traveler who had converted to islam
>he's anti-porn
>Anti-anime
>Bans people for not agreeing with him on the above

discord was a mistake
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>>72047812
>>72047877
>>72048008

Grrrr. Why won't they conform? This makes me so mad!
It's almost as if these people don't cherish our heritage as inebriated parish pumpers who throw babies into septic tanks in the name of the sky fairy and deny women basic human rights.
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>>72049552
>traveler
that's not how you spell chariot racer
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>>72049576
You're a funny cunt anon. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last.
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>>72049079
I'd believe it, there were around 1000 by my estimates at it in Limerick today.
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>>72049552
>which was moderated by a traveler who had converted to islam
I refuse to believe that such a persona exists.

>>72049576
Well memed.
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>>72049725
I appreciate that, anon
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Any good ideas for paddy's day lads?
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>>72050631
Prayer and abstinence from all vices?
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>>72047709
how'd I do

reckon I missed a fair few queers
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Lads, I know I just said discord is a mistake but i'm lonely

https://discord.gg/9U9m9
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>>72050726
I like your ideas
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>>72050924
absolute STATE of it
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hate myself lads
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>>72049576
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>>72051202
Start a crusade lad
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>>72050924
fuck off sad cunt
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>>72051014
I was just being facetious but do what you like
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>>72049576
so wait are you pro abortion or anti abortion?

the protesters want the right to do that on demand to their baby/foetus because its their body
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>>72051404
he's an anime queer who craves attention
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>>72051706
underage go
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>>72051861
>>72051913
I searched for the é with the fada.
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>>72051888
t.saracen
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>>72050804
>me
Can't tell if you're a pintman or pintwoman, lad.

>>72051404
>so wait are you pro abortion or anti abortion?
He just likes being contrarian. It's how he rose from anon status to personality status.
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>>72051957
just search ire man
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>>72051706
Go mbeidh an t-ádh leat, óglach Críostaíoch.

BA MHAIT LE DIA É!

>>72052037
Stop using Saxon orthography.
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Why are the Irish so obsessed with religion? Are the Irish the reason why America is so pants on head retarded?
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>>72050631
Probably going to have a few quiet pints and find a Finnish tourist to batter the fucking shite out of
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>>72052104
no
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>>72052104
The same reasons most of the world was I imagine
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>>72050924
>the invite is invalid
;_;

o-ok
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>>72052186
But why is Ireland, specifically Northern Ireland still like that?
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>>72052104
No, and luckily we're steadily moving further away from it day by day towards a proper secular country. Though there's still a ways to go.
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>>72052228
>why is Northern Ireland, as an essential battleground between two ethnic groups, still defining itself along those ethno-religious lines?
Hmm

>>72052238
>towards a proper secular country
ah yes just like the ussr
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>>72052196
https://discord.gg/QFsMS3b

sorry, i forgot to set it not to expire
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>>72052291
>not a secular country
ah yes just like countless other third world shithole theocracies where people have no rights
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There's this Hart's War movie on TV and it's teaching people how common racism against black fighter-pilots in WW2 POW camps was
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>>72052104
Why are modernists so ignorant of religion?
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>>72052353
ummm sweetie.......did you just imply some cultures aren't equal?
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>mfw someone says "we" were complicit in British colonialism
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>>72052308
>Discord
Why does nu-4chan keep pushing this shit in my face?
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>>72052413
I never said they were, Western Culture (human rights, individualism, secularism, tolerance, equality etc etc.) is vastly superior to any other culture on earth. It's the pinnacle of high culture right now, I don't deny that.
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>>72052460
we were since we were british at the time
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>>72052523
haha wow bigoted much..?
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>>72052502
because you have to pay for teamspeak servers
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>>72052555
Waste of trips
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>>72052228
the vast majority of people in NI aren't particularly religious

Anyway it just so happens that the largest political party (DUP) was founded by a protestant zealot and preacher who went on to make his own protestant sect, and stacked his party with religious fundamentalists from his church. The party became the mainstream unionist/loyalist party so ordinary unionists (who are also supposedly protestants) vote for them and in turn the DUP's fundamentalist religious values are overrepresented politically.
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Lads, I know I shouldn't be, but I was having a browse of /r/ireland there to see how they were reacting to the Strike protests today. Came across this wonderful bit of logic regarding whether fathers should be allowed to have a say in abortion decisions:
>They both had sex which they know could lead to pregnancy, and if a child is born they must both take care of it. That's the cost of sex. Don't like it? Get a vasectomy. Don't punish the child.
Okay, don't punish the child for the mistakes of the parents. Makes sense.
>"But", you may cry, "what about EQUALITY!? She gets to choose to have the baby, but he doesn't?"
Well, women have been crying about equality for decades now, so we've been led to believe that it's pretty important.
>No, she gets to choose whether or not to carry the baby. Nobody has the right to impose a medical procedure on another person, and until a man can gestate and give birth, it will always be the woman's right to choose.
But what about not punishing the child?


Essentially this twisted individual acknowledges that pregnancy as a possible outcome of sex is implicitly consented to by performing the act. but only the woman is allowed to "punish" the child. The man just has to suck it up and do whatever the empowered womyn tells him to do, whether it be see his offspring killed or be forced to pay indefinitely for a child he doesn't want.
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>>72052643
why don't you fuck off and argue with them there you tedious wanker
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>>72052643
One of the worst things we allowed in society was for men to abandon their children. Just like a slut shouldn't be allowed to murder a child, a father shouldn't be allowed to walk away from raising it.

If you want to argue it's a woman's right to murder the infant, it's also the father's right to walk away.
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>>72052611
>because you have to pay for teamspeak servers
Ok, but why 4chan?

The whole point of this site is anonymity, Discord shatters that mentality by introducing identities and voice chat.
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>>72052741
>given the option to namefag/tripfag
>we have avatarfags in the thread

>"but what about anonymity:("
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>>72052778
why don't you fuck off to discord then if you're that desperate to have friends
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>>72052778
he's right though in fairness
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>>72052778
still relatively anonymous by comparison

should learn from the skype cabal with this shite, and from my experience cliques always develop with discord as well
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>>72052729
Correct.

"Nobody can impose a medical procedure", they'll say (except for blood transfusions and vaccinations on people whose religious belief contradicts theirs), but they have zero limitations on the impositions they'll put on men to avoid putting any responsibility on the shoulders of women.
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>>72052829
need more of these
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>>72052729
>If you want to argue it's a woman's right to murder the infant, it's also the father's right to walk away.
Except then the Pro-Choice dust off the "Won't somebody please think of the children?!", which is just hypocrisy at its finest.
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>>72052778
The only avatarfag here is Frogweeb and that's a stretch.
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Any of you lads use orthotics for flat feet?

Get them custom made?
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>>72052821
I'm not the one shilling for discord I'm just making fun of you, ye butthurt fanny-flustered cunt.

>>72052837
>>72052829
I'm the person who bullies tripfags, 'tis not like I'm endorsing the cunts.

It's just fucking stupid and whiney to complain about your anonymity when people chip away at the anonymity anyway.
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>>72052922
A lot of people don't seem to understand what the term "Avatarfagging" actually means. Some seem to think it means "Posting pictures of things I don't like on a regular basis".
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>>72052993
diversifying the characters doesn't make it not avatarfagging (had typed out anime-fagging there)

urban dic has a pretty good definition of it I think

>A person using a genre/character/show/topic specific picture, an "avatar", accompanying each post on 4chan, typically with the reaction image of the "avatar" relevant to the tone of the post.
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>>72053070
So basically.
>Stop posting images on an imageboard
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>>72053170
the vast majority of posts have no images attached though

have you ever seen frogweeb post a non-anime image?
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>>72053240
Yes: >>72047709

Regardless, I'm not seeing the problem - we never even come close to hitting the image limit.
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>>72052778
>the option to be anonymous
>no option to be anonymous
hmmm
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>>72053290
a non-anime reaction image you cheeky cunt
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>>72053346
Occasionally I post Simpsons pics.
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>>72053439
I said non anime
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>>72053439
this is a riveting conversation about yourself and your habits

pls continue
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>new bannerlord pics
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>ywn be this man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkVn1lzcK70&ab_channel=HotBrassandBullets
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>>72053518
I'd probably kill someone for a bannerlord with napoleonic dlc
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>>72053550
not with that attitude
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>>72053584
it'll probably be a thing or something like it eventually
after a few years though

shall be spending hundreds of hours enjoying the comfiness of this flora though
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>>72053518
Bet it's a buggy piece of shite that takes 6 months of patches to be playable.
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>>72053500
Okay. I am currently eating Lasange as I do once per week on average.
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>>72053771
if it Rome II's me I'll probably kill myself
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>>72053767
some 80 or 30 years war dlc would be superb
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>>72053883
never heard of those wars
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>>72053831
I expect nothing less than a Rome II tier launch
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>>72053796
Do you cook it yourself?
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>>72053929
>never heard of those
Ye a pleb?
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>>72053929
They happened long after the Celts disappeared.
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>tfw your top tier heir gets murdered by some crazy possessed bishop in ironman
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>>72053796
don't foregt to mention that you eat a quarter loaf of bread a day and baguette only once a week
>>72053929
80 years war maybe but that you've never heard of the 30 years war is quite surprising
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>>72047709
>>>>FREE
>safe
>legal
i fucking hate how socialist everyone is in this country
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far as size and strength goes i'm the big man in this thread
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>>72053989
Yes. One of the few things I can cook in entirety.

>>72054102
>don't foregt to mention that you eat a quarter loaf of bread a day and baguette only once a week
Ate no bread today, but had a baguette yesterday.

>>72054113
I don't even understand why they think they deserve free abortions considering you pay for most medical services in Ireland unless you're on a medical card.
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>>72054071
>those traits
>top-tier
He's basically a typical 4chan autist.
For me, top-tier heirs have 20+ in one of the top three stats, and at the very least two good traits (not just four bad ones).
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>>72054071
the fuck are those portraits

haven't played in a while, looks like paradox has squeezed some more coins out of people
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>>72054233
Imagine being a 4chan autist in the days before the internet.
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>>72054071
Is there a new face pack out?
>cruel
>craven
>shy
>envious
>top tier
>>72054233
>average 4chan autist
>genius
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>>72054233
>>72054331
Ya, tbf he isn't the best but I only wanted high intrigue so I could play around with the devil cult.

>>72054272
The new DLC comes with two free ones, German and like Norman/English or something.
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>>72054331
>4chan is where smart people go to act stupid
Does this theory still hold water?
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>>72054331
>average 4chan autist
>genius
Top minds of the internet, lad. Top Minds.
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>>72054272
>looks like paradox has squeezed some more coins out of people
That's what they do.

>>72054296
I posted a story yesterday about how my guy went to Alexandria on a quest for ancient knowledge alongside his friend, the Baron von Asperger.

>>72054331
>genius
I'm pretty sure above-average IQs have been historically more frequent on 4chan than in the general population. On the bigger boards now though, idiocy reigns.
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>>72054387
>The new DLC comes with two free ones, German and like Norman/English or something.
What's funny is that it's come full circle and now the original European faces are exclusive to the French if you've bought all the DLC.
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is it true in belfast that all pubs and clubs close at 1 am?
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>>72054102
why would i have?
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>>72054388
I believe so. Well, people still accuse reddit of being the opposite which seems to imply that the original theory still holds water.

Personally I'm a retard acting like a stupid person though.
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If I pretend I'm from Northern Ireland can I come h*ckpost in this thread?
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>>72054584
don't know , maybe you payed attention in history class or something (and it's not very uncommon for mount&blade niggers to be historyfags)
>>72054600
>I'm a retard acting like a stupid person
I'm pretty sure most of us are
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>>72054677
History education in this country is woeful.
A cynic would say it would have to be.
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>>72054677
don't know what mount and blade is either, odd name for a war though

we didn't cover any of that in history
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>>72054584
The 30 years war was arguably the most important religious war ever to take place in Europe.
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>>72054670
>anime
welcome aboard
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Unironic stupidfags get out
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>>72054600
I'm retarded and I try to excuse it as being too lazy instead.
Over time, I think I just lost the motivation to understand more elaborate concepts.
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>>72054798
that's why you rot your brain on paedophile cartoons
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Anyone have any office chair recommendations?
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>>72054769
so? wtf should i care when we're not european
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>>72054848
Initial D has no paedophilia from what I've watched so far.
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>>72054784
>tfw enveloped in too many layers of irony
Not sure if I should I should stay or leave.

>>72054798
I know that feel. Probably the reason I lost my passion for Physics & Chemistry that I had in secondary school.

>>72054903
>we're not European
>mfw
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>>72054881
a comfy one!
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>>72054881
>not sitting on an upturned bin
Fucking notions on this lad.
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>>72054937
We're not European though, we're Atlantean. The sooner you continental cunts realise this, the better.
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>he isn't squatting right now
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>>72054975
what in the fuck are you on about
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>>72054670
>anime
welcome off board
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>>72054975
>We're not European though, we're Atlantean
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>>72054937
most people have a passion for biology in secondary school

surprised an engineering student like you wasn't interested in the nuts and bolts
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>>72054798
I know I'm not retarded but I know I'm lazy.

I have approximately 13 hours to write 3000 words as we speak and I'm going to manage it by God.
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>>72054937
>Physics & Chemistry
>no passion for literature
physics were horrible
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>>72049552
>>72049576
>>72049801
>>72051536
>>72052636
>>72052970
*whom
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>>72055020
>>72054780
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>>72055033
>tfw unrequited passion for the female biology
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>>72054961
A comfy one would be nice. But at the same time it shouldn’t be too comfy, as I need to get work done aswell.

>>72054963
>upturned bin
Is that what they do in France, and is that why they always smell?
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>>72055056
>Driving theory test in 3 weeks
>Still barely looked through the guide yet
Why the fuck am I such a useless, lazy shit, fuck.
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>>72055033
>surprised an engineering student like you wasn't interested in the nuts and bolts
What?

>>72055059
Well as my passion for the sciences faded my interest in history resurfaced again while I was at university.
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>>72054975
sounds like something a west brit would say
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>>72055022
>>72055014
We're distinctly not European. Our economy never grows the same as Europe, our people have a distinctly different way of thinking and processing capacity.

We have stronger ties through the Atlantic than we do through Europe.

We're an Atlantean race, not a European one.

Only butthurt (((Europeans))) say otherwise
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>>72055171
>wu-wu-wuh-wibble-what i-im not a student
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>>72055206
t. european federalist
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>>72055226
fuck off everyone knows Atlantis sank along with the Celts a millennium ago and hasn't been seen since
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>>72055226
> our people have a distinctly different way of thinking and processing capacity
care to elaborate?
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>>72055170
That is plenty of time.
There is a great app for Android that covers all the questions, I highly recommend it.
Costs a few euro though.
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>>72055170
The driving test is like 40% luck to be fair.

>>72055226
You write a lot like the guy that guy who turns up here every so often ranting about how adamant he is that the EU is going to collapse very soon.
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>>72055170
Fuck off child

JANITOR THIS POSTER IS UNDERAGE
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>>72055226
That's a rhetorical fiction that only retarded English people believe from huffing their own fumes a little too hard. Out of all the nations on the two islands England is the most continental (one might say definitionally continental).
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>>72055310
I'm pro-EU. Keep your opinions in France, gaybo.

>>72055295
Care to disprove?

>>72055285
ATHLone ATLantis

It's not a coincidence
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>>72055262
>t. irish republican
FTFY
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>>72055322
I'm 20
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>>72055335
The British are significantly more European than us. Our future lies as the balance between the US, the EU and UK. Not by defining ourselves as "European" or "British" but as Atlantean.
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>>72055418
>Atlantean
does that mean that the Irish are the same race as Icelanders and Greenlanders?
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>>72055418
What does "Atlantean" culture consist of then?

>inb4 muh Celts
We wuz Gauls n Galatians n Iberians n sheet (n thus European)
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>>72055477
Iceland is genetically Irish, so yes they would be included (and will be subject to cleansing and Gaelicisation)

>>72055510
>muh ooga booga you can't say this because I don't think we should
Indo-Europeans came from India, does that mean European culture is Indian? No, you mongoloid. Having come from Europe and settled here, we've changed over the centuries. We've diverged from the Europeans. We're Atlantean.
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>>72055348
what? I can't disprove something that hasn't been even explained.
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>>72055567
Well then that's your fucking problem then isn't it, fucko? Go back to plebbit.
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Starting to think Atlantean anon is a little touched in the head.
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>>72055564
>iceland is genetically Irish
thats like saying Ireland is genetically Norwegian because we have a small amount of DNA from the vikings
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>>72055564
It does mean it's more Indian than it is African.

>We've diverged from the Europeans. We're Atlantean.
A geographic descriptor.
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>>72055598
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>>72055605
Except most of Iceland has Irish DNA, it's not a minority or anything of the sort.

>>72055604
Starting to think your daddy touched your little head.

>>72055624
And we're more Atlantean than we are European
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>>72055604
embrace you Atlantean heritage , jump into the Seine and swim away my scaley-skined friend
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Luxlad is an honorary Atlantean
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>>72055709
>embrace you Atlantean heritage
Like most Irish people, I'm a proud Sargassian thank you very much. Atlantean scum are not welcome in this general.
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R'lyeh>Atlantis
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>>72055742
I feel honoured
>>72055780
elaborate
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>>72055880
The Atlantean empire invaded the homeland of the Sargassians. Sargasso was planted by the Atlanteans due to its mineral wealth, and the native Sargassians were exiled to the then sparsely populated island of Ireland.

Unfortunately the foolish Atlanteans over-exploited Sargasso's mineral wealth and over the centuries the ocean reclaimed the native Sargassian land. Now all that remains is a sea in their name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargasso_Sea
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im bored lads
post music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6EFg5eWWlM
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>he isn't hyperborean
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>>72056310
https://youtu.be/_iUEwB4ME3I
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tired
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>>72056093
Did this happen 1000 years ago? Did the Sargassians destroy the celts?
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>>72057173
Well, let's just say that 100 years after the Sargassians arrived in Ireland, the Celts had disappeared.
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And where do the Cardassians fit into this?
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>>72057364
They're behind the disappearance of the picts
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>>72057364
obnoxious reality shows
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is learning to drive even worth it vs using a bike or public transport?
i fucking hate belfast drivers so i'm not exactly sold on becoming one myself
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>>72057939
>is learning to drive even worth it
Nothing is more relaxing than a nice drive in the countryside
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>>72058139
American countryside is different than Irish countryside though.
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>>72058198
Yes the Irish one is better
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>>72058242
Not for driving.
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>>72058288
Be happy you live in a nice country
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>>72055358
20 STONE YE FAT PRICK
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>>72058393
Do you have guns?

Also your name suggests you live near some nice countryside, or "wilderness", a distinction that doesn't exist in Ireland as strongly as in America.
I suppose our farmland is more a e s t h e t i c, since the contrast of grains and green is stronger, and most land is used for high-quality cows and sheep rather than vast swathes of genetically modified corn syrup.
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>>72058958
Yes I own three guns, two for hunting rabbits and birds and a third for self-defence from larger things, like Mountain Lions and drug addicts

I live in a low-mountain range which is covered in forests, and is a stark contrast from the prairie and plains surrounding it
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>mouse not working because of shitty error 39
Starting to think my PC hates me lately.
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>>72059094
that sounds megacomfy
a lot of irelands countryside has been turned into farmland
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>>72059190
It still is rather cozy in it's own unique way

The whole shebang here is ruined by being rather well populated, so you can be a bit hard pressed to find a nice private place in nature

That and the weather is unironically leathal
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I am pro choice for ideological reasons but all the people spamming about women's rights today made me want to become an advocate for the opposite lads.
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>>72060152
>I am pro choice for ideological reasons

>but all the people spamming about women's rights today made me want to become an advocate for the opposite lads.
How solid can your reasonings and convictions be if this is the case?
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>>72060219
Solid enough to realise that changes that are brought forth by faulty reasoning might prove more beneficial if they do not come at all so as not to perpetuate the fallacious reasoning by encouraging it as if it were correct. Faulty reasoning will lead to more bad than good. We cannot be encouraging it.
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>>72060370
>this post
What did he mean by it?
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>>72060370
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Any of you ever feel like your body is holding you back?

I want to run longer and faster but my feet are flat as fuck so I constantly get shinsplints and knee pain
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>>72060659

I have a debilitating physical illness that holds me back
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>>72060659
Yes, that's why I uploaded my conscience into 4chan's servers. I am powered by shitposts and by slowing down images loading.
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>>72060659
touch of the auts
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>>72060370
Wut?

>>72060659
>Any of you ever feel like your body is holding you back?
Opposite for me. I have zero hindering physical defects, so I imagine that if I had the desire and motivation I could at least be reasonably /fit/. But alas I haven't exercised for the sake of exercise in about 5 years.
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go to bed
play gaymes

decisions decisions
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>>72060463
First of all if you are this guy >>72060219
please stop posting that disgusting man. He is unimportant and giving credit to unimportant things takes time and attention away from things matter.

He is also an ugly cunt.

Secondly, I meant that when we wish to pass a law as country, or in this case amend the constitution, we need to consider why this has to be done.

In the case of the right to abort one could easily argue for it using arguments about situations where health concerns might indicate it, or even that since the embryo is not fully conscious, if it is to be born in a family that can't/doesn't want to sustain and raise the child it will not only make its life miserable but also the family's/parent's and possibly become detrimental to society in the future as a dysfunctional adult.

However, most people that marched today, marched as part of a "women's equality/power" movement.
"I want the law to change because we are all special little snowflakes and we deserve what we want" is not a good argument.

"A woman has the right to chose" is not an argument, it is but a feeble attempt at emotional blackmail and of absolutely no use to the rest of society.

I think it is wrong to continue encouraging what is essentially a mindless mob of people swayed by whatever the current fad or pseudomoral meme of today is, and supporting a cause without ever thinking it through.

This type of thinking SHOULD NOT be encouraged. When society rids itself of this doltish semblance of ideology, then we can finally do the things that need be done.

That being said, abortion being illegal is fucking stupid. Considering the country has already voted for gay marriage what moral pretence can one possibly have against abortion?
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Drinking tea from my sports direct cup lads
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>>72060719
What?
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>>72060863
>thinking im reading this lol fuck off
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>wall posts at this time of night
not a syllable
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>>72060863
>Considering the country has already voted for gay marriage what moral pretence can one possibly have against abortion?
How are those things even remotely connected other than being issues central to the modern Leftist Social Justice movement? I broadly agree with the rest of your points, but this part makes zero sense to me.

Also, no long posts after midnight.
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>>72060923
>asks what
>lad takes time to explain
>lol too long m8

rude. No wonder we're shit.
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>>72060863
didnae
wouldnae
cannae
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>>72060863
Your ideal is sound enough but you have to understand that people who get into (and stay) in power are the kind that will not stay strong against public backlash
It takes almost no-one at all to make a member of the goverment to change their mind, all they have to think is that they might not get voted in again/not get their cushy job in a private company after their time. The only way to change things is through protest, and there's not enough people who both have the right idea and the will to actually go out and protest, so one has to rope in some idiots to pad out the numbers. This means the reason for the message is lost, but so long as the message gets through it's worthy it.
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>>72060976
You are correct, I got tired after the long post and got lazy.

It is not the same, I fallaciously assumed in my mind that a person that doesn't object to gay marriage (which is usually due to religious beliefs) couldn't possibly object to getting rid of something that is not yet living and might prove detrimental.

Apologies, I stand corrected.
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Frogweeb?
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Having an ERP with a yank
They're of a dusky hue
Not sure how to feel about their fetishes desu
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Lads, have my mouse fixed by tomorrow morning. Goodnight.
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>>72061164
state of you
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>>72061194
bonne nuit
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>>72061226
Agree wholeheartedly
He sent me a video and I ended up deleting it, should I have kept it for meme purposes?
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>>72061194
stupid FUCKING cunt
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>>72061282
is it kirino?
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>>72060863
>Considering the country has already voted for gay marriage what moral pretence can one possibly have against abortion?
Ah yes letting two fags have the same rights afforded under the Constitution means we have no moral standing on the question of children being murdered you sure have convinced me with that hot opinion of yours.
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>>72061446
>kirino
the anime?
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>>72060863
>please stop posting that disgusting man. He is unimportant and giving credit to unimportant things takes time and attention away from things matter.
>He is also an ugly cunt.
I agree with you but "HEEM" is a funny meem.

If I'm reading your post correctly, you're basically against democracy and populism, which is a good sentiment. People don't look for truth in the evaluation of ideas, they evaluate packages of memes that they passively encounter through their social experience and their consumption of media, weighing them up in terms of emotionalist rhetoric and personal gain through the impact of the policy and the "socially-approved" perception of being a supporter of it.

>That being said, abortion being illegal is fucking stupid. Considering the country has already voted for gay marriage what moral pretence can one possibly have against abortion?
It's a shame you can't see why it SHOULD be illegal, but if you're wondering why it is, then the obvious answer is that those laws were written in a different time.

>>72061085
>It is not the same, I fallaciously assumed in my mind that a person that doesn't object to gay marriage (which is usually due to religious beliefs) couldn't possibly object to getting rid of something that is not yet living and might prove detrimental.
Religion is the strongest "meme package" that provides coherent reasons for opposing both those things, but even the explicit, somewhat honestly logic-oriented liberal theories and rhetoric (since liberalism as an ideology isn't really coherent) lead to an opposition to abortion.
Basically it boils down to the difference between giving a gold medal to a bowl of soup that has been shat into, and taking a bowl of soup and pouring it down the sink.
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>>72061487
fuck off
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>>72061600
You the lad who wrote the equally long post? You've no right to complain about the length if so.
If not, piss off you illiterate.
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>>72061637
no one gives a blue shite about your "considered opinions" on an anonymous nepalese embroidery brocade you autistic self obsessed retard
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>>72061737
Okay
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Lads, lets all come together with some good old fashioned hatred against the anglo
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fuck, i wanted to ask frogweeb something
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>>72061804
>normalfags baneposting
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>>72061194
Install Linux.

>>72060837
Same dilemma here.
Will probably just watch something in bed, good middle ground.
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>>72061804
this shit is old
i saw it back in like 2015
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>>72061449
Please see >>72061085

>>72061487
I am very much for democracy and completely against populism. People most often do not evaluate packages of memes for personal gain, if that were the case we would have democracy.

Perhaps, if we use personal gain in the sense of "whatever I FEEL right now" then maybe. In general however your evaluation of people judging things based on an emotionalist rhetoric I believe is spot on.

In my point of view personal morality should often come second to the betterment of society. As such I usually weigh things based on what I envision/want society to become.

As such I believe that abortion should be legal, using the aforementioned arguments.

If you were talking about gay marriage, I disagree on a moral and philosophical level. I consider the moral part (my basic emotions and values of what is wrong and what is right) to be of little value. The philosophical part however, as I believe it pertains to society, is of much greater importance and worth of note.

Thank you for your post, I know this is 4chan and it is probably borderline insane to reply seriously to people here but your taking time to answer thoughtfully made me feel better tonight.
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>>72061194
>going to bed earlier and earlier each night while I wake up later and later
Someday our schedules will align and I sexually harass you again.
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>>72061637
no, that was someone else. My posts read like this
>>72061916
>>
Lads I have a confession, I never read any of these long posts. I'm not even sure what you're arguing about. Just thought I'd let you know.
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Im going to be in Dublin for St Patricks Day
Wat do?
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someone redpill me on the freemasons

are they friends to the gael
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>>72062023
catholics arent allowed to become freemasons
the orange order is an offshoot of the freemasons
hmmmmm
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>>72062023
more like freeGAYsons

hahahahahhahaha
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>>72061969
Thanks for your honesty.
I only read one of them, something about feels, gays and abortion. Very interesting I'd say.

>>72061988
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5bgJvRG9XvQ
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*marches for repeal*
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>>72062068
catholics can become free masons

fuck off swiss yank
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>>72061916
>I want the murder of the unborn to be legal
>but gay marriage is wrong lol
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>>72061916
>I am very much for democracy and completely against populism. People most often do not evaluate packages of memes for personal gain, if that were the case we would have democracy.
They do though. You're confusing policy for "meme packages". It's easy to understand "us vs them", or the more current meme of "freedom vs oppression/regression". It's not so easy and nobody fucking bothers to digest the vast amounts of policies out there because there's no point while mass psychology dominates and no real way to vote on specific laws 99% of the time outside maybe Switzerland.

>In my point of view personal morality should often come second to the betterment of society. As such I usually weigh things based on what I envision/want society to become.
That's a bit of a contradiction. By your own admission your own moral views are what you demand for society.

>As such I believe that abortion should be legal, using the aforementioned arguments.
What ones?

>If you were talking about gay marriage, I disagree on a moral and philosophical level. I consider the moral part (my basic emotions and values of what is wrong and what is right) to be of little value. The philosophical part however, as I believe it pertains to society, is of much greater importance and worth of note.
What do you mean? Moral beliefs are intrinsic in philosophy. If you support "gay marriage" you are basing your political position on your morals.
And if there is any sense in which "philosophy" independent of morals existed, I can think of no reason why "gay marriage" bears any great "philosophical" justification, besides the (false) belief that heterosexuality and homosexuality are equal or analogous, or else the liberal/utilitarian moral belief that "liberty" (license) in this matter or marks of approval from the state add to the happiness of society.

>Thank you for your post
4chan isn't all shitposts and angrylad posturing, or at least it wasn't always. Plus I don't mind making long posts.
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>>72062130
i agree with both these statements
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>>72062023
Absolutely not.

>>72062125
Freemasons (now) allow nominal Catholics to become members. But the esoteric practices, deist underpinnings, and "ecumenism" means the RCC doesn't allow its members to be Freemasons.
They were viewed by Catholics in France at least and probably the rest of Continental Europe as being somewhat like what /pol/ thinks da Jooish conspiracy is, though with more justification. Some French fedora published a lot of lies about being a freemason and Satanic practices there, and then went "ha ha I troled u" when people took him at face value, proving... something.
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>>72061903
Yes, congratulations for noticing
I don't know if the news reached you, but the lib dems have been banished from the realm
Haven't had any around these parts for a good year or so now
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>>72061903
>i am le old fag xDDDDDdd

only one of those identifiers is true
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ah yes let's kill unborn babies

very good solution for everyone

don't think so weirdos
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>>72062477
We should kill the born ones. That way we can tell for sure which ones are defective.
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>>72062477
they're not babies if they're unborn retard

should have aborted a mental invalid like you
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>>72062503
Are you a nun?
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>>72062541
>nine months pregnant overdue
>kill it
>lol not a baby
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>>72062552
How did you guess?
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>>72062172
>They do though. You're confusing policy for "meme packages". It's easy to understand "us vs them", or the more current meme of "freedom vs oppression/regression". It's not so easy and nobody fucking bothers to digest the vast amounts of policies out there because there's no point while mass psychology dominates and no real way to vote on specific laws 99% of the time outside maybe Switzerland.

The Swiss have an amazing system in place and I admire them for it. The ancient Greeks had a similar system, which would be possibly dysfunctional today due to the scale of our countries. Using the modern definition of democracy I may not be democratic. I will attempt to explain.

>That's a bit of a contradiction. By your own admission your own moral views are what you demand for society.
Again you are correct. What I meant to say was, I, as most humans, have a "visceral" response to new things and new information (maybe even things we already know). This emotional response is often fear of the unknown and the new, and an attempt to conserve what we know and have adapted to. I think it is due to a need for conserving mental energy but that is beyond the point.
If you come from a background where homosexuality was frowned upon or stigmatised it is understandable that your first subconscious response to that would be negative. For most people that is where the process of forming an ideological position ends.

My "true morality" , is what I, in the best of my ability, envision for society and the parts of life and responses to events that can bring such a future to existence.

>What ones?
Sparing society a dysfunctional adult, sparing a family a dysfunctional life, sparing a woman pain and potential death. All of these at the cost of a few cells. We humanely kill dogs which are far more conscious that an 10000 cell embryo.

>What do you mean? Moral beliefs are ....

For answer on morality I hope I covered it above.

For gay marriage.
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>>72062566
ya coz extreme late term abortion is widely advocated you retard
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>>72062671
>>72062541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5E2qobpSOI

watch this pro choice leftist spastics

now imagine your shitty brain at 2 months being crushed by a metal object and have goo ooze out to confirm it's been crushed, then remove every body part of yours
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>>72062612
>>72062172
Marriage in society has a twofold value.

1) Is to celebrate the bonding of a couple
2) (Most importantly) to officiate the joining of two people in terms of wealth and towards the law and the rest of the society.

I believe people should be free to love whomever they chose. Celebration of the said love in circles of your friends and family should be allowed.

However in the eyes of the law it is an entirely different matter. Marriage as we have today has a few functionalities in terms of the law.

It allows couples to get tax returns (which exists as means to encourage people to form families and in turn produce more people, the currency of society) and assist one another in legal obligations as well as whatever might arise.

Gay couples do not produce new people. They can adopt, which in turn is of benefit to society, but this is a separate matter and should be examined as such.

I find it unnecessary to provide the same incentives to gay couples as such all under the umbrella of marriage.

Furthermore and although it is not entirely related to marriage, adoption and raising of children in non-standard environments has relatively unknown effects and is not widely documented. I am uncertain whether we should mindlessly proceed towards allowing adoption without considering/investigating the potential effects.
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>>72062612
>Again you are correct. What I meant to say was, I, as most humans, have a "visceral" response to new things and new information (maybe even things we already know).
Quite a different thing from "morals" and not something that separates you from the high-level philosophical opponents of homosexuality, though if they do find it viscerally reprehensible, it's not really possible to externally distinguish the two, and complaining about visceral feelings per se is a fallacy the pro-"tolerance" types use to disarm all opposition.

>If you come from a background where homosexuality was frowned upon or stigmatised it is understandable that your first subconscious response to that would be negative. For most people that is where the process of forming an ideological position ends.
That assumes people are blank slates towards it though, and that disgust at it is not ingrained through evolution or instinct. Funnily enough the argument is thrown around that it's the opposite when someone is enthralled rather than disgusted by it, really makes you think. I think it's mostly the opposite to be honest, especially for someone to be opposed to homosexuality in today's culture, it's not something that is brainwashed into people, quite the opposite: almost the entire education/psychology/media establishments are organised to program people to accept it, and it's legally coercively imposed in a lot of places, Ireland included, to relatively soft degrees.

>My "true morality" , is what I, in the best of my ability, envision for society and the parts of life and responses to events that can bring such a future to existence.
That's not your morality, formally speaking. That's your vision, which is guided by your morality.
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haven't talked to the oneitis in 3 weeks, stopped drinking cos lent and got some uni work done since then too. feeling alri

last time it was this long the dozy bint texted me and ruined everything haha x
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>>72062730
How many fucking people need to tell you that the baby is not developed enough to have any form of concience
It's like protesting the humane slaughter of animals because they might feel something before they get knocked out and killed, you utter spanner
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>>72062730
not a baby
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>>72062831
She's fucking Chad lad.
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>>72062831
>oneitis
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>>72062831
>oneitis

boys lol xd
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>>72062880
she's pretty timid and shy, but meh i care less every passing day

>>72062888
>>72062901
it's a sad existence.
i get attached to people very easily but it's getting better with uni and new people and all
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>>72062844
>not developed to have a conscience

says who? they have a fucking neural system within a few weeks

fuck off baby killers, children and babies aren't the same as animals and unborn childs don't undergo euthanasia like an animal does they feel the pain

>>72062853
you're still a baby, can we abort you?
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>>72062979
Says the people who have studied their whole lives to know this kind of shite
Will you next be telling me that genes don't exist because you can't personally discern them?
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>>72062979
very mature argument lol

looks like you should have had a postnatal abortion
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>>72062612

>Sparing society a dysfunctional adult
Abortion is propounded in order to elevate the status of dysfunctional adults and make life more convenient for them. Abortion's psychological effects (and possibly the physiological effects on children the mother has after the abortion) also produce dysfunctional adults (of a socially destructive kind) more reliably than birthing those children which are targeted by abortion does. Additionally those children who are targeted by abortion might not actually be "dysfunctional" in any sense and are simply surplus to social or economic permittances.

>sparing a family a dysfunctional life
Most "families" which would be having abortions are already dysfunctional by their own making. And in the case of the burden of a disabled child, when it is not actually a minor burden but instead a severe one, there are alternatives to alleviate this burden that do not involve murder, such as hospices or other homes.

>All of these at the cost of a few cells
Defined in material terms, you are a few cells.
"Consciousness" is also being treated as a replacement for the Christian idea of a soul, which it is not. It is (by your reckoning at least) a material phenomenon in the same category as cells.

>We humanely kill dogs which are far more conscious that an 10000 cell embryo.
Human life has value that other animals do not.
And abortion is not humane.

>>72062844
What's the significance of consciousness that makes it bad to kill something conscious but not something unconscious?
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>>72062953
>she's pretty timid and shy
Doesn't mean a thing. My mother's a social spastic and she's mentioned having at least two bfs before my dad and rejected a lad in college just because. Hell she almost broke up with my dad when she found out he was a year younger than her.

Women aren't like you and I, they have choices no matter how they behave.
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>>72062979
animals do feel pain when they're slaughtered you retard they're just stunned

>euthanasia

i presume you mean anaesthesia? you can't give that to an animal intended for consumption just before slaughter you utter utter mongo

christ this is basic shit you spastic
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>>72063042
Animals in general, especially us, tend to get upset when killed. Being unconscious lets us die peacefully.
Being unconscious and never having known consciousness is probably the best way to go in life, desu
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*kills children*
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>>72062827
>1) Is to celebrate the bonding of a couple
A ceremonial value which has no meaning to the state and no value to society.
If it's to encourage further such pairings, it has no value since homosexuals do not produce children.
>inb4 muh adoption
Homosexuals should not be able to purchase children to use as fashion accessories or worse.

>2) (Most importantly) to officiate the joining of two people in terms of wealth and towards the law and the rest of the society.
No reason to "join two people" in terms of wealth when all they are joining is penis and anus.

>>72063118
If I ever find you it won't be the way you go.

>>72063147
*buggers man*
*signs piece of paper*
*buys foreign child*
*takes turns buggering the child*
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Can all the repeal cucks fuck out of the thread

and preferably fuck off out of ireland

thanks
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>>72063118
Why care if they're conscious though?
You think there's a moral imperative not to cause suffering to them? Where do you base that on?
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>>72063201
In general, a sense of superiourity. As the dominant species on the planet, and the only intelligent one [spoiler]I don't know what the proper word is fuck off[/spoiler] I believe we have a moral imperative to give kindness in whatever way we can to the beings we kill for sustenance
And it goes for abortion that it's just basic human decency to not kill another person
course that's me talking like a poof but there you go
And then you have the actual arguements of the stress and grief the mother would have if the baby actually was conscious
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>>72063173
I don't know if this is the same person but I mostly agreed with what you are saying. I was making the same point.

>I find it unnecessary to provide the same incentives to gay couples as such all under the umbrella of marriage.
>>72062827
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when is abortion EVER right

aside from EXTREME circumstances

you're given women a free pass to be turbo sluts and then kill a beautiful innocent creature who can't defend himself, majority of times without the consent of the father, just so women can be massive sluts

fuck that

pearse, collins, griffth were all rolling in their graves when gay marriage came along but I'm certain if the eight amendment is removed then we will truly go down a path we will never come back from
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how can long winded cuck say abortion is great when he claims to be a catholic, he goes against one of the central teaching of catholicism
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>>72063288
>I don't know what the proper word is fuck off
Sentience.

>I believe we have a moral imperative
Why? Your opinion? That doesn't make it real.

>kindness in whatever way we can to the beings we kill for sustenance
So if we ate aborted fetuses, it'd be necessary to kill them more kindly than is currently done (which would probably entail gassing them after they're born)?
>implying the Bilderbergers NWO don't already eat aborted fetuses

>And it goes for abortion that it's just basic human decency to not kill another person
Why? If you abort a fetus you've killed another person. And you haven't established any real ground for why it's wrong to kill a person if all they are is a particular arrangement of physical matter.

>course that's me talking like a poof but there you go
Yeah.

>And then you have the actual arguements of the stress and grief the mother would have if the baby actually was conscious
>"Child murdered, murderer hardest hit"
But what if the woman wanted to kill the child when it was conscious? There's no reason for her to not do that. Your whole point is a hypothetical case where a woman would not WANT to abort, not a reason for why she should be allowed to abort.

>>72063420
I'm the guy who's been called "long winded anon" and I'm against abortion.
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NUA

>>72063511

>>72063511

>>72063511
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>>72063458
Human beings have connections with their weans, chemicals and shite, I'm not a doctor
If a lady is broken enough that losing a child doesn't make her messed up, she shouldn't have a child in the first place
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>>72063200
noh :)))

when we win you're welcome to leave tho to your middle eastern country of choice
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>>72062125
if you join you get excommunicated by the church and are therefore no longer catholic
therefore catholics cant join
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>>72047472
Thinking of wearing this on the 17th, thoughts?
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