Why do Americans try so hard to make their """""pizza"""" good?
Is literally trash.
Italian pizza >>>>> American """"pizza""""
>this pie is a normal pizza for 1 person in america
No wonder why they are so fat.
I support my local kind of pizza. New England "greek" style. I've never had an actual Italian pizza but if its anything like the heavy on flour stuff Italian immigrants make, no thanks. Pic and post related >>53947269
Have you seen Chicago style? Basically a pie and it's weird as fuck.
That's what I love about America, freedom, even in pizza. Pic related is from a place near my house. Not your typical American pizza, but it's still available. We don't have just one style of pizza. You Italians must bored of eating the same thing over and over again.
>italy trying to be relevant
Pizza is a pretty gross idea from the start. It's a bunch of greasy cheese on top of a bunch of starch with some sauce. Even "good" pizza is pretty meh tier.
Not even trolling, Italians will talk shit on our pizza for not being authentic enough or whatever, we don't care. We can have deep dish Chicago style pizza, thin crust New York style, authentic Italian pizza, and anything in between. We'll throw some fucking barbecue sauce and chicken on there if we want. Point is, Italians, and Europeans in general, are blinded by their traditions.
Come on Italy. I know your country has no concept of work ethic, but at least try here.
>We can have deep dish Chicago style pizza, thin crust New York style, authentic Italian pizza, and anything in between.
>authentic italian pizza
>Point is, Italians, and Europeans in general, are blinded by their traditions.
>mfw italian posters unironically don't know what "work ethic" refers to
>a belief in the moral benefit and importance of work and its inherent ability to strengthen character.
Are you even trying?
Had some Bella Napoli the other day, was pretty good tbqhwy. I thought I wouldn't like it because of how it looked, might give Chicago Style a taste some day.
Ťbh famalams the absolute tippy top of the pizza pyramid is in fact, garlic pizza bread.
Thin, round base with garlic + oil but also the cheese and tomato. Its absolutely delicious and so simple.
New York style pizza is what popularised pizza.
Before Italian Americans started making pizza, nobody outside of Italy even knew what it was.
>Point is, Italians, and Europeans in general, are blinded by their traditions.
yep, feels bad, I'm tied by my own traditions and forced to cook nice traditional food for myself, instead of chomping down concentrated high fructose corn syrup every day
I can never be sure if they're serious if there's an American flag above the post to be honest... I'm sure it's a common thing for non-Americans.
My point exactly... Is this lad for realsies? Who knows.
>New York style pizza is what popularised pizza.
>Before Italian Americans started making pizza, nobody outside of Italy even knew what it was.
From what I know pizza came to the Netherlands with the first waves of guest laborers that were mostly European (Moroccans and Turks would be the later waves).. Many Greeks, Italians and Spaniards came here to work, and some opened up restaurants. In combination with a relatively large amount of people getting enough money for foreign vacations to, among other places, Italy popularised Italian food rather fast.
This is the only non-autistic answer tbqh. Had some tasty pizza in the US, had tasty pizza in every European country I've been in as well. It's fucking bread with toppings, it's -hard- to fuck it up, the worst I've ever had only looked sketchy but still tasted fine.
I do enjoy Swedish pizza the most, but this is likely because of familiarity.
>Had some tasty pizza in the US, had tasty pizza in every European country I've been in as well. It's fucking bread with toppings, it's -hard- to fuck it up, the worst I've ever had only looked sketchy but still tasted fine.
Sort of agree with this, but I don't like most 'typical' American toppings that much.. When I get pizza at 'Italian' restaurants here I often get them with tuna, salmon or sea fruits. The places I've had pizza (admittedly not the entire range, but a handful none the less) in NY usually had less variety than what I'm used to. Just several types of sausage usually, and sometimes peppers and/or mushrooms. Weird thing was that even in places where they served pasta with seafruit, they wouldn't have pizzas with similar toppings.
This is true for most of Europe I think. It showed up with Italian and Balkan guest laborers here in the 60s. This is also why we get the "pizza salad" thing here, because since these guest laborers were he original target group, a salad popular in Croatia was chosen to serve as a free side/appetizer.
The lack of variety was my main complaint in the US as well, but it does exist there, just some places go with just "plain" (margarita, I guess?) and pepperoni. Still, those were tasty as well, nothing wrong with it, and if you wanted variety you could just go to another place. But yeah, back home even the shittiest Albanian-hole-in-the-wall pizzeria has 50 combos or more, and you can always just tell them what you want on it.
>just some places go with just "plain" (margarita, I guess?) and pepperoni.
Literally every place I got pizza at though.. And my gf's cousins were entirely baffled by the concept when I told them tuna+onion (capers and/or black olives optional) were my go-to pizza toppings..
>FISH? ON PIZZA??
They minds where thoroughly blown, and NY is actually a place that's known for pizza...
>But yeah, back home even the shittiest Albanian-hole-in-the-wall pizzeria has 50 combos or more, and you can always just tell them what you want on it.
Exactly.. And sure, in those places the Frutti di Mare or Salmon are 99% likely to be from a can, but still.. The option is there!
There's a small place 5 min drive from where I live. The guys from Naples and he does round, 1/2m and 1m long pizzas.
This is the only authentic Italian pizza I've ever had, but its fucking sweet.
The bread is literally the highlight; fluffy, chewy, slightly crispy, yeasty and salty.
Fuck, this is heaven.
wood fired oven makes all the difference tbqh. Sadly the only place in my town that has one has super low opening hours, shit's like 10am to 5pm and closed on Sundays (literally when you are most in need of their services). Still, good shit when you do manage to get there... no idea how the fuck he stays open though, given that he closes just as everyone gets off from work. Sure, he gets the lunch crowd, but still.
You can have diferent choices even in Italy. Apart from cheap egyptians who caters to students and stoners, you can get napoli-style, thin, al tegamino, al metro, focaccia-style, calzone... and of course shitton of different toppings.
Being free to eat huge pieces of bread with shitty cheese and toppings isnt freedom, it just satisfies your high-calories addiction but its not good food, which most of the pizza in italy is.
>Why do Americans try so hard
L.M.A.O. leave it to mediterraneans to not understand work. why don't you just steal all of your culinary """""achievements"""" from other cultures. i heard china invented this thing called "noodles". why not throw some aztec tomato sauce on them ?? L.O.L.
I bet there are a lot of good pizze in america
don't be a cunt just because you're italian, you probably don't even know how to make pizza or never tried the real neapolitan one you dumb faggot
meh, it's all different around the world.
The main difference is the dough, focaccia bread is an ancient simple recipe that a lot of Italians use for their fast food or street food. it's more of just a simple flat bread, and uses basic bread flour rather than the ridiculously high in gluten version you would see in the states (that's where people can toss it around like a wierdo and shit) and with olive oil mixed into it.
The modern 'pizza' was nothing more than an elaborate focaccia display. and it was officially recognized because it was made for some big hot shot. But people in Italy had been stretching focaccia thin and topping it for centuries before the neapolitan pizza.
The word pizza is rather old too.
the more you know.
Pizza from Omsk (literally):
cream sauce, hot dogs, meat assortie, mushrooms, salted cucumbers, french fries, tomatoes, sweet pepper, corn, onion, cheese, green onion.
Regional differences are enough to keep our tastes entertained for centuries. America now sit down and let us do things our way.
>leave us alone
>make thread after thread complaining about things Americans make in their own country
It's great you got your own shit, if a fag from Chicago tries to open a pizza place in Italy lynch him for all I care and personally think your seafood is miles better than your pizza but c'mon.
Pizza doesn't belong to Italy anymore, it's ours. We took it. Just like the hamburger and the frankfurter and some kinds of sushi. If you want them back you'll have to fight for it.