>>53114671 It's just some incorrect recipe with canola oil instead of sunflower/linen. And they think we only make yeast dough. I got used to such mistakes. A language barrier prevents babushkas from sharing their knowledge on the net.
>>53114869 It only made me smile, they are too cartoonish to be taken seriously.
Why would I ever want to live in Russia? Pretty much all the russian people I've met during my entire life have been incredibly rude, violent and dumb. I'd rather hang myself than live around such subhumans. Why you're even allowed on the board is beyond me, I seriously wish I'd never have to have anything to do with you, your shitty alphabets or your pigshit poor slav country. There's nothing exotic or cool about a country full of thieves, assholes, corruption and poverty. Fucking bomb yourselves.
>>53118576 >Slovenia Oh wow, the West Virginia of Europe sure showed America:^) anyways, almost 40% were in favor. How many supported gay marriage 10+ years ago? You can't deny we've have a big influence.
>>53118821 >barely 4 years ago Yes, that TOTALLY shows how we have no influence on your country and isn't just a normal shirt term fluctuation in public opinion. Gay rights have rapidly gained support pretty much everywhere, I don't think people thought it would even happen this fast in the 90s. Also how is the Supreme Court un-democratic? The court system is an essential part of our democracy. The legislative branch passes laws, the judicial branch interprets them, and the executive branch enforces them.
>2015 >65-35 split Faggots (you) on life support. Funniest thing is that the new generation of young people are against it.
>Also how is the Supreme Court un-democratic? >>wants to pass a law >>the referendum fails a democratic vote >>fuck you, we'll just call it unconstitutional Not surprising with leftists though, democracy is only suitable when they get the results they wanted, unconstitutional other wise.
>>53119391 The majority of Americans support same sex marriage http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/ and it was legalized via the same legal process of checks and balances we've been using for hundreds of years. If it was undemocratic, nothing in America is democratic. Also that 10% drop certainly doesn't rule out an increasing long term trend of acceptance. There was a similar drop in 2008 to 2009 for white Protestants, but it still continued upward.
>>53119591 >The majority of Americans support same sex marriage Ah, yes, that's why the referendum failed in California, right? But you can keep showing Polls that mean jack shit when actual legitimate votes shows the majority oppose it. Leftists limp wristed fags do it again.
It's also hilarious how you try to show of the change between 2012 and 2015 in the US as a continued trend of support when the nearly identical results in Slovenia between 2012-2015 against faggotry are "just a normal shirt term fluctuation in public opinion"
Lmao, I'd call you butt blasted but the truth is you're probably always butt blasted from taking it up the ass :^)
>>53119731 >spics oppose gay marriage Who would have guessed? And like it or not, the outcome of that election was overturned by our democratically run legal system. Just because you don't want our democracy to have checks and balances like this to determine the constitutionality of laws, doesn't mean it's actually undemocratic. Also I don't get why you're focusing on my sex life, I'm straight. I just don't have a problem with gays and it's funny to me to see Slavs chimp out over homosexuality.
>>53119830 >MAJORITY WANT HOMOSEX LOOK AT MY POLLS >NO, ACTUAL DEMOCRATIC VOTES CONDUCTED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND INVOLVING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO A SMALL SAMPLE GROUP IN POLLS DON'T COUNT >FUCKING MEXICANS
>>53119883 But the majority do support it. That's what the most recent polls show. And we are a CONSTITUTIONAL democracy, we can't democratically implement any law we want to without first changing the constitution. Passing laws that violate the democratically installed constitution is still somewhat unconstitutional. Would you really want to live in a direct democracy without an checks and balances designed to protect the rights of minorities from the tyranny of the majority?
>>53119955 >calmly explain our legal system >respond with this ebin strawman I don't think I'm the ones that's mad here. Also our constitution, which was passed democratically, is there to protect against the tyranny of the majority. Deal with it.
>>53120029 >>53120007 I did not say democracy is the tyranny of the majority, but the tyranny of the majority can arise in a democracy without proper checks and balances designed to protect individual rights. America was founded on this. Attack the character of the founders all you want, but the system they set up was designed to let things like this happen and the majority of Americans support that system.
>>53120009 >>53119959 Look, faggot, your checks and balances bullshit is hilarious, you know why? Because you calmly re-define words, rights, and laws to suit your agenda. Thus all of a sudden marriage is person 1+person 2 instead of husband and wife, all of a sudden dudes in a drag are legally women and gender has nothing to do with sex. All the way you're eating it all up pretending that's actual democracy while calling literal democracy undemocratic/unconstitutional as long as it suits your agenda.
Not only that, but you brag about it on the internet.
>muh tiranny of the majority as opposed to the tiranny of a minority.
>>53120101 If 51% of people decide to strip you of your right to own property, would you want them to go ahead with it or would you prefer your country has a constitution to protect your rights as an individual? Democracy does not always mean direct democracy. There are other forms, such as representative democracy which allow for things like this to happen. Also that specific election was really close and the majority of Americans nationwide actually do support gay marriage http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/ >>53120116 I already explained how the legislative, judicial, and executive branches work in an earlier post.
>>53120222 >If 51% of people decide to strip you of your right to own property Here we go with false equivalences. I'm sorry, but literally no one took the right from faggots to marry the person of the opposite sex, which is what marriage is and always was by definition. But, yeah, leftist cuckolds changed the definition once more.
>LOOK AT MY POLLS AGAIN AND IGNORE LITERAL REFERENDUMS INVOLVING MILLIONS Lmao
>>53120256 Well the judicial branch is there to interpret the laws that the legislative branch passes so that Congress can't pass laws that mean whatever they want. They can also repeal laws that violate the constitution. That's one form of checks and balances, and it's the form that was used here, the Supreme Court determined a law to be unconstitutional.
>>53120263 Typing in all caps won't help your case. I already showed you that it's normal for these things to fluctuate in a relatively short amount of time, and California was only one jurisdiction out of 50 and the poll I showed you was nationwide.
>>53120441 The definition of words changes over time. You should know this, given how you use the word faggot. The USA is secular, any religious definition of marriage should not influence our legal definition of it.
>>53120386 >Typing in all caps won't help your case You don't even have a case. No rebuttal at all.
>the POLL >POLL Damage control in full swing.
>California was only one jurisdiction out of 50 Don't mention it being one of the most liberal and consistently democratic voting ones as well as the place with the gay capital of the US-San Francisco never mind most highly populated state in the US.
>>53120510 >or do you lot deny biology as well Yes, they do, didn't you notice how Gender has nothing to do with Sex anymore? Guy in a dress is legally a woman now. They literally re-defined the word gender so now it means something like "gender/sex identity" instead of it being a synonym for sex, which literally any dictionary will confirm.
>>53120510 >legal marriage is biological There are no governments in nature. The purpose of marriage is not to produce kids, we have been letting infertile people marry for a loooooong time.
>>53120538 >by force I'm sorry, but we're not forcing anybody to get gay married. The only thing that's changed is the same legal rights that straight married couples had can now apply to gay married couples. This is useful for certain legal things, like being allowed to not have to testify against your spouse in court and stuff.
>>53120507 >polls are damage control How? You said the majority don't support this. I showed you evidence that they do, and that one relatively close election in only one jurisdiction did not represent the national average. You're also forgetting that support for LGBT is highest among whites and California isn't very white, so California voting liberal doesn't mean they do it out of ideological liberalism, they do it because the republicans said mean things about minorities.
>>53120756 >do you imply it's beneficial to the society? unless it is there's no reason to change the previous definition Since when was that a requirement for laws? We have tons of neutral or even malevolent laws. Is it beneficial to society for my city council to change the definition of some zoning law? Not really, most people don't care if a plot of land can now be used for a parking lot. But the people that do (the people who would take advantage of the change in the zoning law) would benefit from the change just like the altering of the definition of marriage would benefit people would would take advantage of it.
>>53120722 >I'm sorry, but we're not forcing anybody to get gay married. You can't even read apparently.
>How? You said the majority don't support this Which they don't, at least in California, tell me, did the minority impose their will on the majority or not?
>I showed you evidence that they do, No, you have not, while I did. Polls are not evidence. On the contrary, polls are worthless. In fact I can show you a poll right now stating clearly that the majority of americans disagree with the supreme court imposing gay marriage on the population. In fact I can easily find polls that contradict your poll. I'm not surprised by leftist cherry pickings though.
>You're also forgetting that support for LGBT is highest among whites and California isn't very white >California voting liberal doesn't mean they do it out of ideological liberalism, they do it because the republicans said mean things about minorities. Boo hoo no argument: the post.
>>53120756 Its one thing to get a divorce, that's common in civilized countries, another to say that infertile or old people can't marry because they can't have children, that's retarded and rare if it happens at all.
>>53120937 Well, I've posted a poll twice showing that the majority of Americans actually do support gay marriage so idk why you're acting like the majority is being victimized. I also already explained how America is not a direct democracy, but a representative one. Now again, would you think it's undemocratic to protect you from having your right to own property stripped from you because 51% of people voted for it?
>>53121034 >polls from a respected and trustworthy institution aren't evidence >I can dismiss your argument by saying "boo hoo: I have no argument" Seriously, stop trying to tell me about my country. Nobody gives a shit about gay marriage here, and I don't live in a very liberal area either. You also did not respond to my point about how public opinion can fluctuate a few percentage points in a short amount of time and that the California election was close, showing that it is within the realm of possibility that the majority do support it now.
>>53121147 >how is America a representative democracy if representatives ignore the represented? By having a legal system where people can challenge these rulings to overturn decisions if deemed appropriate. In fact that's what happened here, and it went all the way to the Supreme Court where they ruled in favor of same sex marriage.
>>53121195 It's funny because you keep going back to fucking polls to "prove" that the constitutional court in fact acted upon the will of the majority while at the same time dismissing actual referendum results in the most populated state in the US.
In fact you even go as far as to suggest that the results should be dismissed because "opinion fluctuates" and Californians are just to regressive and lack fag propaganda to vote "properly". As always leftists find a way to justify their subversion of democracy and fully believe they know what's best for the people instead of the people themselves.
Also >respected institutions >in the US Pick one, I wasn't born in 2000.
>>53121306 >Polish education Plenty of animals have been observed engaging in gay sex. Like it or not, everything from spiders to monkeys have gay sex and it's 100% natural:^) and if you're talking about marriage and not sex, well we're talking about legal marriage, not the act of companionship itself, and governments aren't natural anyways so I don't get your point.
>>53121396 Invalidating a marriage has nothing to do with being able to get married in the first place. I'm pretty sure gay marriages can be invalidated for numerous reasons. I don't see your point at all.
>>53121427 I did not dismiss the referendum results, I just did not apply them to the entire nation as a whole when it was only one state. >muh California big >muh California liberal California being big does not mean they represent the nation as a whole. Also it is not only liberals that support gay marriage, plenty of conservatives do too now, and there are still a lot of liberals outside of California. You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics to dismiss actual statistics from all demographics in all 50 states, yet somehow using one state to represent all 50 is A-OK according to you.
>>53121442 >Plenty of animals have been observed engaging in gay sex They're also observed engaging in rape, cannibalism, murder and even genocide. All completely normal behaviours.
>>53121569 >I did not dismiss the referendum result Except that's exactly what you did.
>You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics to dismiss actual statistics from all demographics in all 50 states, yet somehow using one state to represent all 50 is A-OK according to you. You're the only one engaged in mental gymnastics, lad. You're literally so desperate your proof is a poll while dismissing actual voting results and trying to justify the supreme court literally over ruling the people via re-defining words and their meanings.
>>53121727 I did not say that something being natural made it justified. The Pole implied that when he resorted to using nature to say marriage was between a man and a woman. I just brought that up to show him that his argument wasn't even correct in its starting point.
Also I seriously do not understand how I dismissed that election result. I only said it was for ONE state out of 50 and the results in California do not apply to the other states. You're trying to say that it does, which shows how little understanding of the American legal system you have.
Russia got so fucked by America in the 1990s, Russian life expectancy dropped a decade, quality of health collapsed, crime skyrocketed, Russia became a nobody second power, drug abuse is now at epidemic levels.
Russia went from being the symbol of hope for much of the second and third world against Western domination, to being fucking assraped by the United States in front of everyone for an entire decade.
No wonder the Russians are so homophobic today, they probably think by acting all manly and homophobic, they won't remember how they were bent over a table for a decade having their ass pounded by uncle sam till it bled and actually took a decade off their life expectancy.
>>53122208 If I can't trust Gallup, and the vast majority of other independent poll takers that show the majority of Americans support gay marriage, why should I trust the US government to not have rigged that election in California?
>>53122253 Look dude, all you have is polls in a country where the "intellectual" elite is obsessed with political correctness and identity politics. Those very same people who made your precious polls were educated in liberal colleges where statements like "1 in 4 women will get raped" are not only taken as truth but parroted to such a degree that the literal leaders of the country repeat them. I don't even have to bring up affirmative action or racial classifications changing depending on the circumstances such as Hispanics being classified as white when perpetrators of a crime and Hispanic when victims of crimes.
But, yeah, totally the vote in California was rigged involving millions of people but your polls are accurate. Fuck elections or anything, let's just take polls by "respected institutions".
>>53122436 I did not say that the election was rigged. I asked why I should trust some institutions but not others and gave rigging as an example. I still don't get why polls are invalid, especially when the vast majority agree. Yes, they have margins of error and those margins appear to be big in irrelevant, small countries where poll takers don't have as much incentive to invest more time into, but that only means they have a margin of error not that they're completely invalid.
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>>53122900 Americanization takes time. America's numbers looked like that a few decades ago as well. I can't wait until Ukraine is thoroughly Americanized and a part of the European Union:^) also that shows that LGBT acceptance roughly correlates with economic well being, so it's just a matter of time as those countries grow economically that they become more tolerant.
>>53123518 >if I keep saying MUH POLLS it'll automatically discredit everything he says Poll takers know about these things and that's why margins of error exist. I already mentioned this. Why is it so hard for you to believe that the majority of Americans just don't give a shit about gay marriage? You've said yourself we're constantly exposed to PC propaganda. Do you believe that somehow influences public opinion when it comes to polls, but not when it comes to elections or something? Literally even the only election in one stage youve brought up was pretty close to the polls adjusted for demographics of the stage even.
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