Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Advices on this would be appreciated.

>>2905103
C-cute. Maybe sharpen the jaw a bit, though it might not be your style.

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cont. from the other thread.
I don't know I think I applied the chromatic aberration wrong, any suggestions?

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Painting commission progress. Feedback?

>>2905383
Blog?

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>>2905385
meribels.tumblr.com ^^; I'm not great, but I'm trying.

>>2905398
Eeeh? You're awesome! I would love to be able to reach your skill level! I wonder how you did it... Did you copy your favorite artists?

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>>2905405
Reference? A mix between two artists' painting styles that I liked and practice? Idk just use a reference to get good, never hurts to be influenced. It's how you learn.

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New drawing.

>>2905414
Who were some artists that influenced you? I really love your style!

>>2905383
>>2905398
>>2905414
You're not my friend.

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35-40m

Not getting any faster :/

>>2905439
Cute! Always nice to see something new from Firez. Glasses especially. And the expression!

>>2905439
where's that feet pic bro

>>2905439
Oh yeah, thanks for the ribbon advice. For some reason it really helped, although I have no idea why when it's still just lines. Perhaps using ribbons helped grouped together strands of hair? Whatever the reason, thanks for the help.

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sketchdump

>>2905429
But what do you mean?

>>2905426
Zero and Kyo

>>2905468
I completely forgot about you, saving this. Nice to see you again though.

>>2905491
How the fuck can you know people just by sketches?

>>2905493
autism.

>>2905491
Nice to see you too anon. >>2905493
I dunno. I never thought my style was distinct enough to be recognized.

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>>2905447
Thanks, I will try to review it, I feel her head shape could have been better but it's nice to know you like it as is :)

>>2905453
A bit better, I think

>>2905457
Yes, groups of hair are much easier to manage and convey better the sense of hair than doing individual strands especially in the beginning.
You can apply that to basically anything: don't rush into details, always go from general to specific

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>>2904009
I really like the style and shading, but watch out for the planes on the face for the girl on the left, I know this sounds weird coming from me but they look a bit too even right now. Rest of it looks alright to me, keep on trucking.

Also reposting because old thread sunk

>>2905493
the bottom left ones were posted a long time ago and i liked them for being quite clean in their lines but also struck me as one of those guys taht never finishes anythign

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i only liked how #1 came out... i should have stopped while i was ahead. By the time i got to #6 i my spirits were shattered

i do enjoy this hot pink marker RV09

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First drawing I've made in years that I feel somewhat proud of
Maybe I'm gonna make it

>>2905729
omfg blog or something ?

>>2905741
blog is dead now, but it has some old stuff. It was too much to maintain and I don't drawing frequently enough anymore
http://tableguyic.tumblr.com/

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drawing pins and buttons

>>2905780
Looks cute, nice rendering

>>2905731
I don't want to rain on your parade anon, but wait a day or two and then take a look at it in a mirror from a decent distance.

The linework is nice, but Jesus fuck the face is lopsided, the pose is stiff and the arms/hands are horrible. That's without mentioning the fact that Akko, a 12-year-old character, looks like she's in her mid-20s.

You've got an artist's eye (and a pleb's taste :^) ), but do some more anatomy studies and figure drawing.

>>2905417
just stop shading altogether itll look better.

>>2905866
I don't disagree that it's wonky, but that is definitely a Jojos pose and facial structure, so as far as what he attempted to go for, he absolutely did on purpose.

>>2905851
I like it. Can you post something finished and rendered of yours?

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Went way overboard with the shitty photoshop effects.

>>2906096
Yeah it sort of hurts to look at. It's cool though, just do the effects more subtle, and maybe the texture you have can be a bit less repetitive so it looks like it's aged paper or something and not some crazy vibrating noise.

I like the style though, and would read a comic done like that, assuming you can go beyond a simple portrait into full scenes.

>>2906101
Read Dorohedoro that's basically what I copied.

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I'm trying new stuff with the face and it's just getting weirder, what should I do to make her bangable?

The body is too boring too.

>>2906122
Give her hair for one.

>>2906125
Oh, didn't know hair that big of an impact.

>>2906128
>hair had

Fix'd.

Also, how do I fucking sage here? In my old times I could fucking write that shit on the e-mail field but there's none.

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draft for a cave story thing I'm working on. Before I proceed to line and color, is it looking okay?

>>2906274
Interesting, hope to see more.

>>2905439
more like not getting any better haha

no but really that looks bad.

>>2905103
neck is too dark, the value compared to the face is way too different.

Define the surrounding more, I have no idea what that thing on the left is. It seems like a flower but I have no idea why it's jutting around like that.

Beyond that the picture isn't complete enough to critique further.

>>2905468
Not bad, you should learn to look more carefully at reference, though. That headshot for example, the ref has a much more leftward tilt with the right half of the face receding back much further.

Are you attending an art college? I know of some professors who make you draw similar things.

>>2906286
Thanks, I'll try to add colours later. On the left is flower as you said and I wanted to do shelfs with books. Also I'm thinking about enlagre a girl. Something here is not looking right, but I don't want to add too much elements, because it may look like mess later.

>>2905547
Personally I find the composition boring, it's such a stiff and standard pose and angle.

>>2905729

pretty sweet anon, if the lines were just a liiittle bit cleaner it'd be ace, but the somewhat sketchiness of it does give it some personality.

>>2905317
Your background and character look very unrelated, try to bring colours from the background into your subject and soften your edges

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>>2906320
Here's my quick take on it, I feel the lines are too vertical, splitting the image in half with that vertical line is a nono. I also made the flower into a potted one for quick readability, but yours should be fairy easy to tell that it's a flower once you add colors so there's no one clear answer.

Take this with a grain of salt I suppose, there are many different ways to approach a piece and this is just what I would have done.

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>>2905547
I agree with >>2906325 that it's a bit dull. I feel like you do the same image every time, and this one has a boring composition on top of it. Why don't you try doing something new, like a different lighting set up? I tried to do like a backlighting for example to make it more interesting and enhance the cinematic feel of it so it really feels larger than life here and dramatic.

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I dunno, guys, maybe i'm ready to go ahead and start doing the background. it's been a really long time since i've done any kind of fancy environment though so prepare for some real shit incoming.

>>2905383
her right eye is significantly larger than the left eye
the right calf also looks a bit small compare to the knee, and we'd see part of her leg above the boot
the calf also seems unusually bendy if you get my drift
get some reference for how a pleated skirt falls when a girl is sitting like this
also what happened to her hands?
the rendering on the skin is nice, though, and the hair looks good. keep plugging away at it.

>>2905429
hahaha darbon bashor haha

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c&c and possible redline please? struggling with arms

>>2906342
Thanks! I'm not good with composition and this is looking much better. Thanks again, anon

>>2906370

What is your process for hatching like that? Brush settings? I can't for the life of me accomplish tight lines like that working on an Intuos.

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I always feel like I do hair very lack luster, any recommendations how to make it pop a little more/look better? Very open to criticism, trying to make a dating sim

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some pen sketches. feedback on overall appeal would be nice.

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Tried to include faces this time.

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I wish I knew how to render, it's gonna take me awhile to figure this out

Anyway, here are the flats. I put emphasis on the scarf so that the viewer is lead to king's face. Is this looking okay so far?

>>2906492
Only the robot gives a feeling of being grounded, but I have to say the lines are very nice in most places. Might you be using a hi-tec-c? 0.3?

>>2906658
Shit, I forgot to change the visual tangent going on in the scarf. I already changed it, but I won't be posting it because I don't want to spam the thread anymore than I already have

>>2906647
Nice. But you should try actually finishing something some time.

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Been working on this for a bit, mainly concerned about the pose, among other things

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>>2906351
>>2906325

>>2906351
>>2906325
Thanks for taking the time to critique it, that lighting setup you have looks so much cooler. I have a few questions though.

1. I find my mind "defaulting" back to the standard lighting setup most of the time, how can I "train" it to think about a more distinct lighting scene like the one that you did in the the example? Even when I try to consciously do one that's slightly different I feel like I always end up defaulting back to the same value setup, like the one I attached here.

2. Same for composition, I find myself struggling with this most often as I am aware of the problem but always find myself wanting to show off the loli's features and body while I try to position them on the canvas. Is there any way to train my mind to think out of this? I've tried looking at/studying movie scenes and such, but it just dosen't seem to click yet.

Again, thank you for the time, you've opened my eyes a bit; I feel like I can climb out of this plateau if I get this down right...

>>2906784
Nice! I feel like the right leg should scoot over a little closer to where the braid is, it looks like she's about to topple over from not being balanced. The pose is well drawn, but it makes her look like she's about to pee her pants, but if the right leg scoots over a bit more to the right that might help open up the stance and not look like she needs to use the ladies room. Other wise great job so far!

>>2906787
>I find my mind "defaulting" back to the standard lighting setup most of the time, how can I "train" it to think about a more distinct lighting scene like the one that you did in the the example? Even when I try to consciously do one that's slightly different I feel like I always end up defaulting back to the same value setup, like the one I attached here.
I would study more artists and look for more reference paintings or reference photos while working. You will get some new ideas by doing some research first on how you might want to approach the lighting. Looking at lots of movies and photos and paintings and life will give you ideas of different situations. Look at both how other people have handled giant things (transformers, king kong, godzilla, etc) as well as ordinary imagery.

Otherwise just think through the things as though you are shooting a movie. Where do you place the camera? High? Low? Close? Far? What sort of lens is it? Where are the light sources? What time of day is it? Is it cloudy? What is the exposure? etc. and try to find interesting choices for those things. You can also think of stuff like "I want to practice painting a high key image", or "I want to practice painting a dark rainy scene", or I want to paint something filled with dusty rubble and lots of diffusion".

Personally I'm a huge fan of Craig Mullins since he brings in that variety to his work and can pull just about anything, so I look at him often to remind myself of how I can change up my image setups.

Keep in mind too that you are painting the exact same scene each time (giant loli destroying city) which means by its very nature it will start to get repetitive, and it means you need to work that much harder at bringing in more variety to it and breaking out of your comfort zone.

>>2906918
I have some of those "size" feeling pictures saved at home, but I think it'd probably be a better idea for me to look at more movie stills.

For the camera thing, that's how I plan out my scenes most of the time, but like you said, the subject matter is the same all the time. It's challenging but I really want to try to make it work.

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i like drawing but im not good at it please be nice

>>2905493

I can tell that >>2905520 is andrae by the thumbnail

>>2905495

Basically this

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There is no porn thread so I'm pretty lost with this

Is there anything that should be fixed?

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>>2906784
I made little fixes and added alternative poses. :')

>>2907013
How did you that kind of rendering effect? A special brush?

>>2907013
looks good to me. Nipple seems a little off though. Just remember the nipples lie vertically to the ear.

>>2907014
>when the redlines are just as bad as the original
burn this hellsite

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>>2906658
Welp it's finished, feedback would be greatly appreciated

>>2907023
>trying to help and get yelled at
okay nigga sorry :')

>>2907017
it was a hard round blending brush and I just used the eye dropper tool to render it. I was trying to find the name of the preset but in doing so I fucked up all my tools and now I can't find anything.

I'll try to get everything running again and reply with the name of the brush if I succeed

>>2907020
She is lying down so I went Moses on her breasts so maybe that's what looks weird

>>2907025

A small tweak that I think would help the piece is if you showed some light from the stars reflecting off of the subjects.

For example the bright stars on the right are next to the humanoids face, yet the face is still in complete shadow. This looks confusing.

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Finished an overdue perspective test based on a friend's picture. Any advice on how to improve lighting or anything is appreciated.

>>2907017
found it

http://lilaccu.deviantart.com/art/Basic-Painting-Brushes-Photoshop-320684401

>>2907054
I had considered this, but I wanted the lighting to be a little unnatural since it's King's ghost. Although perhaps this might have backfired

>>2907062

You could try having the left side of his body blend more into the background, a light fade or something so it feels more ethereal.

I would also suggest lightly tinting him an overall color, to enhance the spectral feeling.

I'm just throwing out ideas, overall I think you did a good job

>>2907014
if anything, it's the face that needs a major adjustment.

>>2907014
the face honestly looks like an inbred satanic child.

>>2907067
Thanks anon, and thank you for that tinting suggestion, I tried it and it turned out better

>>2906447
rulers, believe they're available in most programs (CSP, PS, kirita)

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>>2905439
Changed my mind about its direction

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>>2905096

>>2906334
thanks anon. advice taken.

>>2906471
Looks cute and fairly unique, you got a devblog?

>>2906787
Here's my two cents, if anything:

1. As others have said, your figures are very stiff. You could push the dynamicism by introducing contraposto, try to incoporate more twists and turns in the body, break symmetry. You have consistent anatomical issues, like in the shoulders, arms, and knees. Bodies are very thick and muscular. I'm not sure if you are going for loli body or bodybuilder at this point?

2. Check the light logic in your environment. Consider the drop off in intensity as objects are more distant from the light source and the atmospheric perspective. For example, the edges of the rim lights on the structures are too soft for something in the foreground, but not crisp enough for being so close to the light source. Also you might want to look into the shapes and size of said rim lights because they lack variation. Try using different brush sizes. Other than this your lighting is passable

3. Soft and hard edges. Everything looks like it's in the middle, just slightly blended, but not quite smooth or crisp enough.

4. Texture. You sort of render everything similarly? The brush you use adds texture, but you're using the same thing for skin and concrete and fire.

5. Compositionally, having the figure dead center and cropping off part of the horn is not good. The airships are similar sizes and placing them all around the foreground, midground and background could add interesting size variation and sense of depth. There could be more negative space for the viewer to rest on as well, since you have a busy scene occurring.

As for color, I cannot say much. You have a good palette, but just need to work on the rendering and issues mentioned above.

Really force yourself to do other subject matter, other styles, other techniques, because you've fallen into a comfort zone and you're not challenging yourself the way you need to be. Attend a life drawing session, study real things, not photos. Good luck.

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Hands are so hard to draw and my eyes never look 3-dimensional pls help.

>>2907260
Nothing looks 3-dimensional in that picture. I think its something with the shading. Also, dat hat.

>>2907260
The right hand looks good, but the left one needs some work, have you tried flipping the project horizontally? Maybe trying to draw that hand from the angle you drew the right hand will help you shape it up a little better. Agreeing with >>2907262 that because of the soft shading nothing is really popping. For the eyes maybe try building up color depth and making the whites of the eyes brighter to make them pop. Overall it looks nice!

>>2907210
Thanks for the kind words, nah, this is my first dip into the visual novel kind of stuff. Any recommendations where I should start a devblog?

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Feeling rusty and sick

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>>2907127
Normally your anatomy is fine but this one is bothering me. Try using some photo ref.

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>>2906122
Hiya, this isnt perfect but what I think you could do to make her more bangable is lengthening the limbs and more attention to bony landmarks on her body.

1) I see you're already offsetting the curves you use to draw her arms/legs so thats good, but throw in more straight lines in her anatomy to compliment the curves. If you exaggerate it a bit around the joints and parts of the body where you know itll be a bit bonier, you can make her actual curves look much softer and appealing by contrast.

2) Exaggerate the waist a bit and how the torso connects to the pelvis to make her more feminine. Using boxes to construct the ribcage and pelvis instead of ambiguous round forms also gives you greater control on how thick/wide her body is.

>>2906878
>>2907014
Thank you for your help, I'll rebalance this pose. I've noticed that many of my poses seem unbalanced, it's nice to see the reasoning behind it.

>>2907308
STOP CHIKIN SKRATCHIN

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>>2905866
That pose is from the Jojo part 4 ending and it's on purpose. Agree about the face.

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>>2907324
Very nice. Thanks, man, I would take ages to learn that stuff by myself.

>>2907129
sweet utilisation of colors

>>2905731
how do you splash color in the lines like that? I assume it's done post linework?

>>2907412

Probably edited in photoshop. He selected the white areas with a magic selection tool, inverted the selection to just the lines and then brushed it with a soft brush to produce a gradient in them.

>>2907416
It's even easier if you just paint on a Lighten layer.

>>2907226
I'll take this to heart, thank you anon

>>2907023
It's people like you that drove away all the redliners. The purpose of a redline is not only to help you realize flaws within your work, but to help you see how others perceive your work. The quality isn't an issue.

>>2907068
>>2907068
Any suggestions then? Mind you this character is a violent psychopath, that's kind of what I'm trying to go for here.

>>2907127
if the head is twisted that far back then the neck won't look this relaxed, there will be some tension in the major arteries
either that or you could turn the shoulders slightly more towards the viewer so there's less strain on the neck.

>>2907308
you do realize the neck is still wrong right? imagine the back of the head and her back. look how far theyre facing away from each other. literally a 90 degree angle

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>>2907501
Agreed, if the body turns more to the viewer her relaxed pose would look more natural, it looks pretty funky the way it is.

>>2907394
Thank you

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mental wall reached

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warming up
i was supposed to start doing some digital painting today but i woke up with a left eye that's redder than the devil's dick so looking at a screen is kind of painful
don't wear expired contacts, kids.

>>2907621
i love the hair and the colors in this, but
>giant.jpg
it's really unclear that we're looking at a river/valley/road? beneath him. i didn't realize he was supposed to be giant until i saw the file name. maybe work on defining the landscape some more.

>>2907628
Contacts expire?

>>2907621
Rather than cover everything with mist, it might show the scale and depth better if you had his face and shoulder painted normally and then things gradually fade off.

>>2907628
You're a woman, right? Have you considered not spending 90% of your time drawing faces from the front or in 3/4 view? So many female artists spend all their time just doing basic, expressionless portrays, so the faces and hair from a couple of angles look relatively decent, while everything else is at a beginner level.

>>2907635
If you get monthlies/weeklies/dailies, they do indeed expire. That's why there's a date stamp on them.

>>2905531
welcome to the uncanny valley!

>>2906352
im confused. where is the horizon?

>>2906351
>>2905547
>>2906787
this. thumbnail should already show a lot about the art.

btw keep it up! y senpai~

>>2907260
focus on the lines. It needs to stay sharp and only be thick when needed. Maybe try a bigger canvas plus your character's face is distorted - you should paint on flat surface monitor directly parallel to your eye level to avoid distortions

I'm not really sure but I think you're supposed to paint a feminine character, those proportions are very manly. You need to draw more cute pictures and not be too influenced with manly pics. Maybe you're influenced by naruto art but that's just my guess.

>>2907621
background needs more work but keep it up!

>>2907635
yeah. they even have shelf life.

>>2907696
Loved it! Blog?

>>2907713
>u must be a grill
there are no girls on the internet

but what you're talking about is exactly the reason i've been trying to spend more time on /ic/. i default to portraiture or costume design most of the time if i'm not using reference or doing a commission & i need to shake things up.

>>2907127
her neck is definitely broken. :/

>>2906122
>>2907324

This is hell, I keep thinking about the artists I like and how they would do a better job every time. Fucking kill me.

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>>2907912
Forgot the fucking pic even.

>>2907914
I feel like some of the hardest poses are when characters are relaxing, so don't feel bad, anon. She looks a little wonky, maybe check out some reference pics? Or even ask a friend to sit like that and take their picture to help you grasp the pose. Don't give up!

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>>2907939
>ask a friend
>friend

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>>2907914
idk if this helps but i did a redline, too
a couple things stand out about your initial drawing
a ribcage is basically a bunch of ellipses stacked on top of one another, but they connect to the spine & therefore have to correlate to the position of the neck. when you raise your arm like this girl is doing, you can see more of the ribcage beneath the socket of the arm.
the navel is in a strange spot. normally a navel sits directly in the center of the natural waist. i think her head could also be shrunk a tad because right now it looks like she has an excess of forehead.
the right arm looks like an attempt at perspective, but if that's so, the forearm should be larger than the tricep.
also, the knee should bisect the leg. meaning that the calf and the thigh should be *about* the same length. right now her left leg is looking a bit short.

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As a practice I've colored someones sketch (>>>/d/7276321).

Can I get some tips about painting hair and fur in this cell shading style?
Do you see any other issues with rendering?

>>2907968
Ofc it helps, man, knowing where to go is the most important thing when learning, I appreciate everyone helping, it means more than I can express with words, I'm not so good with them.

Also, when you talk about "right arm" I guess you meant our right. Made me confused for a second here.

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Just sketches.

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>>2907985
>right arm
her left, our right. i'm sorry, that was probably confusing. i meant 'our left' as well when i was referring to her leg.
keep at it, I'm looking forward to seeing the next update. this has already improved significantly from the original drawing.

>>2907971
i think you're overworking the fur a bit for cell shading. normally the darkest lines in the fur (the original lineart) wouldn't even be drawn in, but they're a good way to determine the direction of the fur's parting.
since fur is pretty voluminous (compared to cloth or hair anyways) I usually just leave the main mass of fur alone and focus on creating shadows that give the impression of depth.
also i think you could simplify the shadow of her hands as well. since she's holding them up, the shadow will be smaller, and I think it would come forward further on her legs as well.

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>>2907996

>>2907998
Thanks for that paintover! It really helps with understanding why my fur looks kinda meh.
And thanks for pointing out issue with the cast shadow from hands.

Anons like you are making /ic/ great again.

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Trying to get faster at doing action poses, tho it usually ends in frustration.

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Pathfinder character, need to add loincloths and stuff.

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>>2908199
A friend's character as well

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>>2908201
Lastly something from one of the Bestiaries.

>>2907942
I'll be your friend, anon ; - ;

>>2908199
>>2908201
>>2908203
Cool, is it common for people to paint their characters and stuff like this? I actually did some work for Paizo on it, so I've got a bunch of characters in some of the books.

>>2908248
I'm not sure, I think most would grab some picture or drawing off the internet.

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>>2905731
Hello, fellow lw/a/fag. Nice to see you here and good job making that pic.
I'm the /d/egenerate drawfag. I go here frequently and practice because I'm still level 1.

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>>2908171
and now some faces cause i suck at faces, I've been avoiding those 3/4 face drawings for way to long.

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I know this looks messy as fuck but it's how I work. I want to do a pose like the one in the miniature there but I don't know much about perspective. This is the stage where I fix things so I would appreciate some guidance.

>>2908481
these look pretty cool senpai

>>2908508
Nose and mouth are off center. Eyes and eyebrows could be a little more symmetrical.
>>2908481
The ears look pretty awkward, I'd suggest making them a bit smaller/thinner. Also try to make the neck lines curved out a bit more so it doesn't look so stiff? Idk how to explain. On the bottom right one, the nose should be longer and stick out less. The forehead should protrude more too.
>>2908367
Try adding clothing folds and more hair strands.

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might as well post in both threads.

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>>2908587
good start anon

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>>2905729
just wasn't happening today. I forgot how nice otto schmidts butts are. I'm always so disappointed in mine when I do these studies.

>>2908171
I like how you're using perspective to make those poses more dynamic.

>>2908622
Whoa blog?

>>2908622
The penis that she's jerking off looks weird.

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commission. i wanna kill myself

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>>2908241
Come here, you beautiful nigga.

>>2908622
What size canvas do you work on?

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trying to learn sketching with thinner lines

>>2907127
HAVE YOU EVER STUDIED A FUCKING RIBCAGE MY MANS??

LOOK AT HER TITS LMAO FIREZ HAS FUCKING AUTISM

>>2908849
This
Hes only known because he posts links to all 6 of his social media accounts when nobody askthen he posts that ONE little compilation image of things he's drawn.
He still fucking chicken scratches

>>2907893
I lol'd at this

>>2906787
i feel like u r wasting ur potential drawing giant lolis but to each his own i guess.

>>2908702
I think the tail should start lower, unless it's supposed to be coming out of her back. Nice job so far, how did you get into the commission world?

>>2907127
is this really firez? I thought you guys said he was good?

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>>2907968
Did all I could, but I don't think dwelling on the same piece would be a good idea, better jump to another with those points in mind.

>>2907127
punchable

>>2909043
This is post 2 of 80 WIPs. I would check back a few threads from now at WIP 30. Firez is essentially just the weighted average of all the alt threads critiques.

Watching him post WIPs is like watching a really slow feedback loop slowly converge into an overrendered drawing.

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This is the last thing I inked before I gave myself tendinitis like a retard, I've never been so bored in my life. Anyone got any good art-related books I can binge? I want to read The Art Spirit but I can't find it anywhere online.

>>2909100
What does overrendered mean?

>>2909103
I love the colors in this, great line work in the fire/magic. Your use of lineweight is really good, too. I really like picking up used anatomy and physiology textbooks, not art per se but browsing through the basics is always refreshing.

>>2909103
I love the use of color in this
the torso is very long, but I'm chalking that up to stylization?
the lone problem I have:
the skirt looks great up until it gets to the sash. Then, somehow the skirts becomes...wider than it was before, and none of the drapery below the sash seems to correlate to the wrinkles in the fabric above.
If you wanted to rework it, I feel like there are a lot of really dynamic options to explore with her skirt! just follow the same swooping lines as you illustrated in her skirt above the sash, keeping in mind where the tension that creates wrinkles in fabric is coming from.

>>2909103
being actually retarded enough to give yourself tendinitis. you deserve it.

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>>2909272
>>2909361
Thanks anons
I definitely agree about the skirt, I was trying to "pinch" in the fabric at the sash but the way the sash drapes doesn't correlate correctly. Good observation.

>>2909447
On the bright side the fact that I developed tendinitis means I worked hard (although not smart) which I'm guessing is probably more than you could say for yourself.

>>2909477
Cute. I'm jealous that we're about the same level but you draw better figures. You got good visualization? Seen a lot of nude bodies?

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Still trying

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>>2908622
Thanks, same to you!

>>2908662
Your style is really interesting


More practice. I don't draw heads much.

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>>2908508
thanks anon.

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>>2908784
around 4k px

>>2907277
Tumblr's all right and easy to set up.

Drop that link if you make it!

>>2909478
I have The Art Spirit, but it's in .epub, you want?

>>2907277
Also, you using Renpy?

>>2909809
You work in PS using standard brush, right? Can you achieve 100% color by one stroke? Or you need to do multiple strokes? I just trying to set up standard round brush in manga studio but have problem with pressure.

>>2909479
well I do nothing especial, I think my visualizacion is average, I usually need to draw a manikin for help with the visualizacion, or when I am no too lazy I use designdoll for test some ideas.

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Alright, I really want to check if I'm on the right track or not, so I took an old sketch and tried to modify it with the feedback in mind. I don't think I managed to get it down fully yet at all, but I do hope I managed to at least catch some of it.

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I seem to have developed a problem polishing a sketch to the nth degree...

I kinda like the results but it feels like I'm suffering from a lack of output.

...oh, hi /ic

>>2910090
these are nice. are you trying to get in the animation industry or just for fun?

>>2909809
>>2908622
How does somebody learn to paint like this? I've always been impressed that painterly anime style, e.g. white_datura, Tim Löchner etc.

>>2910197
he drawing for 4 or 5 years

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R8

>>2910226
I rate it 2 out of B

>>2910226
Ask /jp/ drawthread for proper translation

>>2908846
You draw too "tight" in my opinion, I think you'll get the look you want by sketching your forms more loosely and cleaning them up.

>>2909809
Blog?

>>2909857
I am, it's pretty fantastic so far, super user friendly. If the end product is good enough I'd like to put it up in the App Store.
I've got an instagram - shibitov
But it's pretty gay desu

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any critiques?i cant tell if its coming out good or not

>>2910371
Use a smaller brush.

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im trying to find a painting style that im comfortable with, i used to just do cel shaded anime style with minor gradients, but now im kind of stumbling when i have to add in far more light logic and color theory to an imaginary object and actually paint things instead of adding a giant shadow shape and call it a day

how am i painting so far? any advice on colors or lighting or texturesl/materials?

>>2910476
don't shade with black/white pal, study light sum more. I like this though i'm a biased pharah main

>>2910253
Thanks for the advice, I will try to sketch looser and see how it goes

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Anyone mind red-lining real quick? Trying to draw a baby-face and something looks off, thanks.

>>2910480
yeah i dunno i just start with a dark blue then just used the darkness slider so its dark enough to be a shadow by following a tutorial

i havent really directly applied any pure black or white if thats what you are saying

>>2910487
Maybe try a contrasting color or use a dark, warmer shade to offset the abundance of cool tones?

>>2910490
yeah im definitely trying to get better at understanding all this warm cool saturation stuff

gunna try to add some reds to the shadows and see how that turns out

>>2910498
Try add some red-ish and purple-ish hues to the flesh as well. Best wishes.

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>>2910476
suggestion

>>2910516
Stop the gradient shading everywhere.
Learn about edges, you're not transmitting the armor's shape with that shading.

>>2910315
I'm gay! Yeah I wanna make VNs too. Well, at least the art and UI.

>>2910545
you are replying to the wrong guy

all the edges i have are indicated by lines as of now though so all the gradient forms are all rounded ambiguous forms from the reference material, like the arm and legs. Though for what its worth the gradients is just an easy way to map out the lights and darks before I really go in shape things

im definitely trying to emphasize edges and stuff with harsher contrast. idk it counts but i rendered that chest piece and the the general torso area with that in mind and im slowly moving to the stomache area and emphasizing the forms for my next step

>>2910486
Nevermind, reading Loomis was actually the answer for once. Cheers.

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I've been doing line art and etc for years, i was one of the kids that never had colored crayon to use. I suck at coloring.

>>2910603
>this
>suck
Anon please

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>>2910606
No i'm dead serious, I honest think i kinda suck at art. Thing is I never studied ART before, i was a doodler in school. I wasted precious time just drawing from imagination and etc. Never learned the basics of anatomy and etc.

I kinda hate that i never got into reading books and etc on Color Theory, Anatomy, Composition and etc.

Because i know i'd be the type of kind to obsess over making my art perfect. I love critique really, but never had a teacher or someone to tell me my art was shit. Feel like i could be better if i did.

>>2910604
I really really like it

>>2910603
try changing the color of the lines senpai

>>2910617
A lot of folks don't start taking art seriously "academically" until college age. Spend less time moping over the time you didn't read or self-study and just start. You're wasting your time complaining about what you could've done, crack open a book, watch some videos, etc., etc.. You'll improve quickly .

>>2910604
What is this style called?

>>2910623
Not an expert but... Cel-Shading?

>>2910623
style of what? it's called weebshit.

>>2910549
Do it up, RenPy is really easy to use so even if you aren't a huge fan of programming it's not bad at all.

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>>2907127
>>2907501
Thanks for the feedback. that was really embarrassing. I gave it a last try ... I guess

>>2910664
lol oh god youre actually regressing. this is pretty funny

>>2910664
Your faces are so punchable

>>2910700
What's pretty funny is that you're too autistic to realize that improvement isn't a linear process. Platueas and regression is common

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practicing silhouettes and color blocking

>>2910664
This is firez right. Gag.
You really need to stop chicken scratching and using that disgusting smear brush.

>>2907047

if she's lying down then her breasts would be going more sideways instead of being a perfect teardrop shape (boobs deform based on angle/body direction)

>>2910727

i like it but that spine is def snapped

>>2910664
"Firez is regressing" is a meme, but this really is worse than usual.

>>2910852
Jesus christ i think you meant to post in the beginner thread. Having the least line confidence in the entire world isnt a stylization

>>2910861
>work should always be clean
K m8

>>2910861
clueless

>>2910082
watch and divide your pic grounds , grouped contrast ranges help to read the picture way better
https://youtu.be/ax130yILbw0

>>2910861
You're sound retarded. I hope you're trolling.

>>2910082
top right is the best. It suggests a playfulness and also gives the main character a good swooping s line which is more dynamic.
The top left one has a more powerful looming feel. Depending on the mood you want

>>2910090
There's something off about your art. I've seen it posted many times, and while you have a nice, distinct style, the proportions are always slightly off.

>>2910896
this

>>2910090
shoulders are too wide for female and those hips don't look so child-bearing

>>2910908
the shoulder width is fine

>>2910888
I dont see how i do. Not trolling.
Sorry i insulted your shitty drawing, get better an i wont.

>>2910912
it's not that bad

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>>2908662
either don't draw or copy shit - i chose the latter. I'm not sure who that cat thing is... looked like some well known animu character

>>2906325
>personality
>>2909624
>interesting
maybe a more suitable word is lazy. I usually mess up with the markers and then i can't undo. I try not to get too invested in each drawing.

>>2910896
maybe the heads look weird? like they are normal head on views that have been squished into 1/4 turn instead of rotated

i do enjoy this anon's casual linework

>>2910090
draw stick figures, get the proportions first, then apply your normal process on top

>>2910861
it's far from finished?? what's wrong with posting early sketches in this thread

>>2910909
>shoulders
anatomically, yes

proportionally, no
in proportion to hips, it would be a 'trap'
either fix shoulders or hips

>>2910931
he just assmad

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Left or right?

>>2910954
Right

>>2910954
right's better imo, straight hairline on left looks a bit odd to me

>>2910912
I don't see how I do? Get better at English. And no that isn't me, retard.

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>>2910954
right

>>2910998
What program are you using? Why are your lines so weird?

>>2911004
krita
pastel texture brush

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Doodleing this thing. Couple of kids picnicking in a forest while some fantasy like creatures watch.
How to I paint the kids in without making them look super imposed?
Bolder lighting? Criticism and opinions on the current work as a whole would be very appreciated

>>2911130
Good stuff. Been a while since I've seen you. You doing okay?

>>2911131
Yeah, I am really busy. I work and have family commitments constantly so I have gone from like 4 works a month to like one. Thanks.

>>2911137
That's how you end up shit, you should be able to finish 7 pieces a week assuming you are putting in the proper amount of time into it.

>>2909809
I'm new to photoshop. How do you change your canvas to 4k?
Anybody know this?

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>>2911130

>>2911129
darker shadows for one. doesn't have to be harder shadows, but definitely darker (e.g. compare the folds of the blue skirt with the blue flower on the right side of the screen.
If they get too dark, you can then fill them in with a bit of green bounce-light from the vegetation.

>>2911188
I don't use PS but there should be an option that allow you to change canvas size somewhere on the top menu, you could also set your new canvas size when making a new canvas I presume

>>2911232
Yes but I dont understand what makes it 4k

>>2910664
Not to sound like a dick, but maybe you should scratch drawing around this head and move onto something else, it still looks off and if you keep trying to match a body to her head you'll go crazy.

>>2911236
4k = 4 thousand. You are welcome.

>>2911236
should be 3840 × 2160 i think

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>>2910095
that'd be nice but there seems to be no hope of entering that field

>>2910896
>>2910908
>>2910923

proportions are hard!

I'll get there someday!

>>2911365
Well, keep at it. You've got a relatively unique style I haven't seen anyone outside of Japan try to emulate. I don't know if there's a market for it, but I like it.

>>2911365
>>2910090

I love your stuff. It makes me want to git gud.

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nice work senpais

>>2911188
ctr+alt+c or i

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>>2905731
I-is t-t-t-that a j-j-jojo reference?!

>>2911425
not the artist but the whole thing is done Jojo style.

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Worked a bit more on this, wanna thank the anon who redline for me

>>2911403
blog pls

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>>2911286
No problem, I understand where you come from I just though it would be nice to try to find a solution. It is not like that is all I have been doing this time

>>2910954
Your faces always look like little caimens

>>2911968
The faces look concave.

>>2912000
you talking about fireZ iconic sinkholes?

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>>2912029

>>2912066
that's my drawing right there, yep I drew that

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Another rough thing

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like if im filming twilight in this fish

>>2911968
I'm sure you'll figure out how to style it the way you want after a few days not looking at it and coming back to it with fresh eyes.
Nice sketches, your subtle use of line weight is really good looking

>>2911762
Definitely an improvement, anon, looking forward to the finished product. Cool stylization ob

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>>2909689
WIP any suggestions? sometimes i don't see my mistakes until someone points them out. but i'm 20% done with it now so.

>>2905468
Your digital stuff looks more dynamic and better than your traditional sketches. Usually is the other way around.

>>2906370
nice lina, got a blog?

>>2910914
>>2910931
>>2910964
Pffhahaha new /ic/ is so shit.
This isnt /i/ fags, get gud

>>2907359
Shut up tripfag.

>>2911968
How do you control your line weight so well? Is it post processing?

>>2912370
I'll just ask because I legitimately don't know.
What's the difference between /i/ and /ic/? I went to /i/ and there's a bunch of people also drawing things, except worse for some reason.

>>2912370
>new /ic/ is so shit.
this lmao, but don't give up d/ic/ks.
I still see potential, though i tend to see potential in all things.
you can do it! ganbare!

>>2912417
Nope. I'm just using procreate on an ipad pro with the 6B brush and fwiw I employ a considerably larger canvas (A4)

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Taking a break from animu, going through peter han. This should probably be in the drawthread heh.

new thread >>2914022