/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

File: hi.jpg (81KB, 612x816px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 612x816px

Sat in front of a mirror and made this. Now I've looked at it for so long I can't tell if it even looks like a human being anymore, please roast my ass.

And I'm wearing a beanie but it might just look like a blob of black.

>>2903276
I am having doubts whether your cartillage or your philttrum (bridge of the mouth and nose) are that extended. What you have made contains slightly individualized features, but the shapes on the eyes have limited variation and are quite mechanical

You are definitely not symbol drawing, but perhaps you are not drawing with enough sensitivity; try to generalize less with the shape of the eyes, in particular. Treat eyelashes as enrichment shapes that could improve the intensity of your drawing

>>2903250
Don't know what you mean by that, but I'd suggest drawing more pairs of eyes (evenly placed, bigger, and more detailed), then beards, and finally piercing in unusual places. Grass, if you want to go with landscape.

>>2903286
Fuck. It's totally true. Just like yesterday. Much shitposting and lazing around, no actual work or practice done.

File: girldate.png (285KB, 520x1000px) Image search: [Google]

285KB, 520x1000px

Learning how to draw mango style. I know there's something completely off about it, but I can't figure out what it is

>>2903303
Everything below the head is completely flat, bodies don't work that way.

>>2903276
the cheekbone on the right could use some definition. that area is flat looking as fuck and there seems to be an unfinished void stretching between the nose and the ear.

File: papa3.png (419KB, 921x849px) Image search: [Google]

419KB, 921x849px

>>2903216
Thank you friend, you were right about the ear, I'll probably redraw it but I quickfixed it for now. But when you say the angle of the black around the eyes are wrong do you mean that they are the wrong shape, or that I drew them at a slant?

>>2903307

Could you go into a little more detail anon? I don't really understand

>>2903303
Tits don't work like that, or rather to be specific, clothes don't.

Face looks good though, so does the hair. It bothers me a bit that you draw better anime than I do, but I've got fundies, I guess.

File: practicec.jpg (305KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

305KB, 1000x1000px

beginner here, I just cant get the hang of drawing the torso at all. used reference

i cant into drawing humans at all

>>2903339
There is nothing three dimensional about it. You have two straight rectangles going behind a larger straight rectangle which is the quintessential beginner pose to "get away with" not drawing hands. Try to copy a real pose.

>>2903356
>tfw it looks right but anon doesn't get it somehow
Really got me thinking about what kind of world you're seeing through your eyes.

File: dllhost_2017-03-17_22-42-47.jpg (31KB, 499x874px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 499x874px

>>2903270
Hello friends, I need some advice.
I have been trying my best at figure/gesture drawing lately but i feel like im doing something terribly wrong in the 'construction' part of things. I know some of the proportions are off and I didnt capture the gesture exactly how it should be. I've been trying to use vilppu's method of doing this but i can never seem to do it right in terms of using shapes to build. This is like a 5 min drawing and I can post more if needed.

File: shit3.jpg (138KB, 873x780px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 873x780px

>>2903365
i just dont think it looks good. something about the torso length and I cant seem to make the legs connect to the pelvis at all.


Especially without Reference. I basically cant draw shit without reference, i'm a fucking slave to it and it sucks.

no referenced used here

>>2903389
Oh boy, you look like you're doing a lot of symbol drawing. Slow down and take the time to actually observe the figure because there's some pretty blatant disparities beyond the proportions here i.e. the bend of the arm doesn't look like it was observed at all and you just threw down what you thought a bent arm should look like.

File: faggot.jpg (25KB, 250x318px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 250x318px

>tfw enjoying my afternoon seeing this retard getting railed by the collective animation community on twitter

>>2903414
nice blog but link anyway?

File: e40c3c062b8cebbd9333a8325a95a6c569caeb4103ca1d55a5f1da86a0dd84f4.jpg (33KB, 482x427px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 482x427px

>all this practice and im still shit

>>2903425
Post your work

File: IMG_2858.jpg (1MB, 2591x1935px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2591x1935px

critique/advise?

File: IMG_2856.jpg (1MB, 2592x1936px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2592x1936px

...critique/ ...advice?

>>2903436
no one has a neck that thick

>>2903363

As soon as I try to do anything below the neck it goes awry. But I definitely need to keep trying. Thanks anon.

>>2903344

Tits are surprisingly hard to get right. I thought I watched enough hentai to make me a natural. Thanks for the feedback.

>>2903440
except you

File: brock-lesnar.jpg (9KB, 194x248px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 194x248px

>>2903440

File: 2nd.png (466KB, 401x709px) Image search: [Google]

466KB, 401x709px

>>2903410
thanks for the advice, I sort of realize that but i'm trying to capture the gesture most importantly. I have redone this one and took a bit more time (15m~). Is this better? Or should I do things in a completely different way?

File: neckman.jpg (383KB, 2304x1536px) Image search: [Google]

383KB, 2304x1536px

>>2903440

ive tried twice to do this igor stravinsky thing and both times it ends up squished cause i dont know how big to make the lines
i already feel pretty stupid
any tips

>>2903470
Read Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain
Don't come back until you're done. The book has some wonderful reasoning and logic done with a science background. It's really useful, but it requires you to not come back to /ic/ until you're done.

Why are mouths so hard ;_;

>>2903472
i am, quite literally, doing this as an exercise for that book

>>2903424

omnidestiny twitter

random video game streamer looks down on animators and then tries to educate them on how to succeed as an animator

File: IMG_0587.jpg (2MB, 4032x3024px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4032x3024px

Posting again this time in a live thread, fucked up the proportions on the right so I can't finish it but this is the best i've felt with reference drawing so far.

File: roll glow.png (187KB, 1440x1440px) Image search: [Google]

187KB, 1440x1440px

loomis
need to do more loomis

File: 1489785071468.png (129KB, 520x1000px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 520x1000px

>>2903303
>>2903447
Little ways to improve it.

>>2903439
Loomis is needed.

>>2903516
She is about to tip back over, and you broke both her arms at the elbows.

>>2903261
lmao it's my face.

>>2903514
stylizing should be at the bottom of your priorities

File: Warehouse.jpg (442KB, 1296x968px) Image search: [Google]

442KB, 1296x968px

>1 hour to do this
>Not even finished yet

Fuck, senpai

>>2903541
>stylizing
but I wasn't trying to
I was trying loomis

File: Saitama1.jpg (186KB, 576x924px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 576x924px

I drew a hero for fun

>>2903547
So what's your end goal pal?

I'm going through Fun with a Pencil right now. Already read Keys to Drawing. Drawing cartoon characters is fun, but I'm not sure if this is helpful. Should I switch to something else?

how wholeheartedly do you guys ACTUALLY recommend drawing on the right side of the brain? it seems like a lot of these exercises betty edwards keeps trying to say the same pseudoscience over and over and doesnt know the point of the exercises herself, which are pretty intuitive

>>2903555
imo don't read the bullshit and just do the exercises.

>>2903555
It's a book for absolute beginners who need the most basic things explained. Most people can skip it entirely and be fine.

>>2903550
what do ya mean?

>>2903458
The torso and hips are definitely much better this time around, you seem to have taken the angle of the torso more into account and drew the curve of the ass/location of the thighs more naturally. Still a bit noodly though and you could use more time focusing on shaping the arms and legs.

File: 1400501420035.jpg (178KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 1280x720px

>>2903559
Was getting caught and scaring people with your weirdly drawn face part of you plan?

>>2903559
Why do you draw and what do you look forward to drawing in the future?

File: dynamic-preview.jpg (19KB, 400x277px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 400x277px

>>2903560
Thanks a lot, I will get to that soon, I have actually not studied any sort of anatomy besides basic figure and gesture stuff so I guess it shows. Also, I tend to draw figures too thin and 'noodly' regardless because I have these gesture drawings in my head that usually ignore any detail but the gesture, here is a pic of what I mean. I find it hard to combine these gesture drawings with actual construction of the body. Anyways thanks again and i'll get to studying anatomy of the arms/legs and the rest soon.

File: wesley-burt-160706-final-wesleyburt.jpg (333KB, 1504x1100px) Image search: [Google]

333KB, 1504x1100px

>>2903563
I'm just drawing for fun

and maybe someday I can make stuff like this

File: OPM-ep2.jpg (50KB, 747x763px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 747x763px

>>2903561
I thought his face was beautiful

>>2903568
I really don't like when they use only like 2 lines for the nose in animu.

>>2903570
That's not two lines though. That's at least 5 mother fucker. There's two shadows.

How frowned upon is it to overlay a reference image on your sketch to see if you have everything oriented/proportioned properly and then adjusting the study accordingly? I don't mean tracing or painting over, just checking to see if everything is where it should be.

>>2903577
About as frowned upon as drawing from life.

>>2903577
you cant do that when you draw from life or from imagination, where you actually 'study' how to do that, so its pretty pointless.

>>2903579
Shill me on drawing from imagination.

It's a meme right? No one actually does that right? It's all memory based?

>>2903516

Awesome, thanks for doing that for me anon. Much appreciated!

P.S. Seeing someone (who's way more skilled) re-draw my crappy weeb drawing feels good man.

>>2903579
I suppose that makes sense and that relying upon it for digital studies could be a detriment to traditional studies.

should a beginner learn from multiple fundamentals books at once?

>>2903609

No, start with Perspective.

File: Screenshot_2017-03-06-09-57-42.png (175KB, 600x1024px) Image search: [Google]

175KB, 600x1024px

need big time tips, i need all the criticism i can get,trying to draw bishounen

>>2903615
Thats really good anon. Cant see anything rongue with it. Keep it up

>>2903609
Of course, if you're not going to go hardcore from the beginning, how can you expect to become a full-fledged expert?

>>2903615
How are you so good?

>>2903626
i dont think its very good desu

>>2903635
It's not. It's some anons trying to force a meme of asking that question about a bad artwork.

File: 4556-3.png (147KB, 665x769px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 665x769px

I gotta learn how to draw hair, anyone have good resources?

>2903637

ik thats why i said it ironically?? just looking for adequate criticism

>>2903615
Could be less sketchy like how you were on the head. The torso is a bit off, like a rib is missing. The right side in particular. The shoulders seem fine, also the arm on the right where you seem to have indicated a bicep. That isn't correct and could be fixed by looking at some references. Also, the torso and the hips aren't facing the same direction as it looks like they should.

>>2903637

>>2903613
>>2903625
who do i trust
2nd guy sounds like a beginner handing out advice

>>2903646

thank you

>>2903615
He appears to be part snake judging by his weirdly curved torso and try drawing out the body before adding clothing because this lil nigga's right bicep appears to be dented.

File: image.png (785KB, 1136x640px) Image search: [Google]

785KB, 1136x640px

Used a mechanical pencil, which was probably a bad idea but I didn't want to startle the cat

File: image.png (750KB, 1136x640px) Image search: [Google]

750KB, 1136x640px

>>2903702
Another one

How do I make the fur/shading less shitty looking?

File: lq22.png (178KB, 1000x750px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 1000x750px

>>2903261

File: image.jpg (2MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3264x2448px

>>2903702
>>2903703

reference cat, little bitch kept moving

>>2903708
Once I figured out what I was looking at, I really enjoyed this

File: female hair.jpg (120KB, 540x675px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 540x675px

>>2903711

File: eyes.jpg (208KB, 488x810px) Image search: [Google]

208KB, 488x810px

>>2903643
>>2903711
deleted soo...

Im going to leave this board for good, every fucking time you faggots keep insulting my drawings and I only get depressed by it. Im gonna improve on my own speed outside this shitty board, fuck you all pretentious "pros" while you people only draw shitty weebshit

File: Pubert_McPubehair.png (278KB, 665x689px) Image search: [Google]

278KB, 665x689px

>>2903643
this haristyle would fit your drawing

>>2903727
Glad our methods are working

>>2903727
another happy customer

>>2903727
he may have soft skin, but you faggots have some of the worst crabs in a bucket mentality I've ever seen. Only like a fifth of the anons here are actually helpful, the rest are just shitposters

File: 58bf347f3406f13b296994c6956d9c80.jpg (140KB, 1424x1163px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 1424x1163px

>>2903713
my exact reaction to pic related

>>2903747
A-am I part of the fifth, anon

File: 20170317.png (555KB, 1400x990px) Image search: [Google]

555KB, 1400x990px

.

>>2903754
no you are a filthy crab shit

>>2903770
:O

>>2903772
(:<

>>2903775
SAD !

>>2903544
Show me a real eyeball that looks like that.

>>2903727
If people are truly just insulting your art in a non-constructive manner, you have the right to be upset and ignore them. But don't ignore honest advice. "It's shit" isn't helpful, but "this part has this problem" is.

But you probably just want someone to suck your dick whenever you post art, which is why you're not gonna make it.

>>2903784
this entire board is cancer, if you havent realized that by now then your part of the cancer as well

>>2903783
I was just copying the eye of who the sketch was based off of
that's it...

>>2903788
if it's all cancer, why are you still posting?

>>2903789
Post what you were copying, I guarantee you stylized the eye instead of drawing what was actually there.

>>2903770
>>2903772
>>2903775
>>2903782
kek nice job proving me wrong morons

>>2903796
You're right, those four posts prove that nothing good will ever come from this board, shut it all down.

>>2903796
no you are a moron

File: roll.jpg (62KB, 249x550px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 249x550px

>>2903793
>>>/v/370831992

>>2903803
You could use Keys to Drawing or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. I forgot which one teaches you to draw how you see. I think Keys to Drawing does with the pencil trick.

>>2903803
I see, I was under the impression you were working off of real world material. It's probably not wise to copy stylized art, you're better off learning the fundamentals of anatomy from the real world, and then moving into stylized art. Good artists compact a strong understanding of anatomy into stylized art, rather than circumnavigating it with basic shapes.

I need some advice, /beg/. I don't really know what I should be working on. I feel as though I understand drawing basic forms very well, I've done draw-boxes-with-perspective-lines to death, and I feel fairly comfortable with it. But the jump from line-art drawing primitive shapes to something more complex is daunting, and I don't really know where to start. Should I try drawing gestures of the human figure? Should I just draw some randomly-derived conglomerate shapes? I definitely feel like I hit a weak point when I try to put multiple shapes in a scene together without perspective lines, or when a shape doesn't share a common axis with another.

I want to draw and sketch in a semi-realistic style, mostly so I can communicate visual ideas better to some people I work with, though I'd really love to incorporate texture and color into that and be able to express myself via art. But right now I'm stuck on being really good at drawing axis-aligned cubes and other shapes. What stepping stones should I be putting between points A and B?

>>2903842
You need to start actually drawing stuff because you're afraid. Draw what you see, draw from your imagination, draw from an image on the internet. But you have to draw something that you haven't before. it'll pose a challenge and that's what you need.

>>2903720
Hey thanks for that! Saved c:

>>2903845
I'm unsure of what to draw. The human form masks the underlying shapes so well, I end up just guessing or drawing sausage arms and legs. More constructed objects just end up looking like a bunch of shapes jumbled together, or I try to form them together by indicating just the outline and it loses all detail. I feel as though I need to bring shading in to capture those details, but that's a challenge all its own.

I could do a sample of each (human form and basic shape conglomerate) and post each if that would help with prognosis.

>>2903851
>all these excuses
You're beginning to piss me off.

Just draw what you see, damn it. It's like you didn't read the sticky.

>>2903854
>Excuses
just explaining why I don't feel the work I've been doing has been constructive.

I am having trouble relating drawing basic shapes to drawing what I see. When I draw what I see, I find myself drawing line-by-line, much in the same way I would if I was doing a drawing upside down. I think I'm past symbol drawing in this way. I'm able to identify lines and shapes, look at negative space, etc. But when I draw like that, it's totally disjointed from the underlying shapes. I'm just regurgitating the edges of the original piece. Like the practice of upside-down drawing, I'm not comprehending the underlying shapes or the perspective of the reference. I'm just copying. Because of that, I'm totally incapable of drawing anything else, regardless of how similar it might be, because I'm totally ignorant to what's actually going on in what I'm copying.

I want to be able to draw by putting basic shapes together and forming a cohesive whole, this is how drawing from imagination is meant to be done, yes? I'm not learning at all how to do that by copying a reference line-by-line. That work seems more suited to someone who wants to draw portraits or still life. I'm not able to draw via construction, which is why that work has felt futile. I don't know how to progress further with construction.

>>2903860
Okay, do you do traditional and/or digital work?

If not, then have you drawn much lately?

If so, can you draw it from memory?

>>2903864
I doodle traditionally on occasion, usually when I'm bored, but all of the dedicated practice I do is digital. I'm not hellbent on that, as my setup is a bit lacking, but that's usually how it goes. (my tablet isn't pressure sensitive, and I don't have access to Photoshop so I'm trying out Krita. Not sure if Krita is worse, just non-standard)

I abandoned drawing line-by-line a ways back, haven't done that in long while. I've been practicing drawing simple objects in perspective traditionally much more recently, but it's something I'm already fairly familiar with, so I feel pretty confident with it.

I could never possibly draw something I had drawn line-by-line from reference from memory, no matter how short the time gap. As I said, I am not gaining any comprehension of the object I'm drawing, I'm just copying what I see. Without being able to look at it, I'm lost.

does anyone recommend the natural way to draw

>>2903870
Okay.

You ever play around with simple objects and combine them for fun?

A relative gave me a short lecture on making things in a picture look really far away a few months ago. I made this after he left, and I'm wondering how I actually did at this.

File: 4ethgdh65e.png (603KB, 476x603px) Image search: [Google]

603KB, 476x603px

>>2903880
oh shit, forgot the file, whoops

>>2903879
Yeah, when I'm doodling I'll often put a few together. As I've said though, it gets difficult when the objects aren't axis-aligned, and it gets more difficult the less basic the shapes get. Trying to draw any natural forms gets complicated because those are more dependent on "blobs", which I find hard to visualize. I can do perfect spheres just fine (obviously, a child could draw a circle), but trying to draw a blob of connected spheres ends up just looking like a mess, mostly because I can't shade and the form gets lost.

>>2903882
I can see that they're supposed to look far away, however because your drawings aren't not clear, I don't really know what I'm looking at. And as a result, it can be a bit difficult to tell if it's supposed to be far away or it's just small. The way you render depth by being darker in the front and lighter in the back, is working, but you draw very abstract things.

>>2903883
Okay.

I'm sure you've read or watched Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching and reached the blob lesson. Draw a line and then go around it with a shape then use contours to show the form.

Also, why can you not shade? Can you post an example of you trying to shade? Since you do digital anyways, just show me all your stuff, the more work you show me, the better I can help you.

File: boyega face.png (117KB, 623x807px) Image search: [Google]

117KB, 623x807px

>>2903892
>I'm sure you've read or watched Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching and reached the blob lesson
Not sure I have, looking into it now. Thanks for the recommendation.

Shading I'll admit is more of a haven't tried than a can't, I haven't ever tried focusing on learning it. I understand the concept, and I can apply it to objects with discrete faces (like cubes or pyramids), or with spheres, but with blobs or compound shapes it's trickier.

I'll see what I can post, I don't have much, mostly because I don't save often, and my basic shape doodles are all traditional so I can't post them.

I found two drawing-by-line examples I can post along with reference, (happy with neither, as I said drawing line-by-line felt like shoddy regurgitation), and I'll do some shape doodles and post those afterwards.

File: boyega face ref.png (680KB, 623x807px) Image search: [Google]

680KB, 623x807px

>>2903902
Here's the ref

File: face cropped.png (171KB, 680x1021px) Image search: [Google]

171KB, 680x1021px

>>2903904
Another, older drawing. Real piece of shit, there are some basic proportional inconsistencies here that are obvious, which were a part of why I felt line-by-line wasn't teaching me anything but how to guess at proportions.

File: face ref.png (615KB, 680x1012px) Image search: [Google]

615KB, 680x1012px

>>2903908
And the ref

>>2903885
These are the lenghts away from the POV that the things in the image were meant to be in my mind, but I don't know if I communicated them all properly.
The twirls and the black xenomorph lines covering the bottom, and a bit of the left of the page are meant to be right in front of the point of view.(fore-ground)
The dude with the funny face and everything he's connected to is a bit more than a couple of meters away, (the mid-ground)
The mis-shapen dome with the tentacles are supposed to be a whole kilometer away, as I imagined it being fuck-huge in size, while the Star Trek kirk vs dino man mountains in the background are meant to be a fuck-long ways away. Everything else is in space. (background)
Is that how you saw the image, or were you confused about those things?

File: IMG_20170317_232850.jpg (2MB, 2952x3108px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2952x3108px

How did I do on my quick-ish sketch of the face of David? I just got back into drawing yesterday, this is my first time doing art besides film since my HS freshman art class 4 years ago. I did a few sketches of stuff upside down yesterday, and this was my first time copying something right side up(again, besides in art class 4 years ago).

File: gul'dan.jpg (937KB, 1280x2134px) Image search: [Google]

937KB, 1280x2134px

the new WoW chronicle book has some seriously sick art

hope I can draw this good one day

>>2903913
At least I can tell it's David. Good job, keep up the work.

>>2903916
thanks senpai. Keeping it up desu.

also I fixed his ear, I realized I forgot to shade it.

>>2903915
Keep drawing and reading the sticky, you'll be able to turn your hopes into reality.

File: image.png (820KB, 966x1100px) Image search: [Google]

820KB, 966x1100px

Check it out.

File: basic shapes.png (105KB, 1245x865px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 1245x865px

>>2903902
>>2903904
>>2903908
>>2903910
And here's some basic shapes examples I just did.

>>2903923
Nice to know we're back to cute.

>>2903923
you could probably get a lot of notes with this on tumblr.
you dont really need to try hard on there.

>>2903938
Cause it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny. You got to have a con in this land of milk and honey.

File: face.png (176KB, 897x825px) Image search: [Google]

176KB, 897x825px

trying to facial construction

I would continue to draw but God has forbid me to draw because he made me realize I don't have the tools to draw like everybody else and must envy other people's drawings and skills. Oh well.

>>2903961
are you done whining?

>>2903961
Then go on with your peasant fate already faggot
Stop fucking around here.

File: IMG_2959.jpg (119KB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 750x1334px

How do I actually finish things? I always get bored and move onto something else

>>2903981
why the heck are you posting the same three drawings from last thread? Have you not moved on?

And you finish them by finishing them, setting aside and doing something else. If something needs polishing you can revisit or redo it later if the idea is still interesting.

>>2903984
Why did you respond to the shitposter? Ignore their fucking annoying ass.

File: ol cirno.png (2MB, 1224x1224px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1224x1224px

Old cirno drawing.

File: Homura in space.png (50KB, 1109x620px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 1109x620px

here's an drawing of homura i haven't topped yet

>>2904010
Whoa, I remember this from a long time ago. Or did you just recently do this?

File: junpei.png (27KB, 718x605px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 718x605px

>>2904013
It's been a while since I drew that. I haven't drawn anything good like that in a while. This was my last drawing. I've been wanting to get into the basics but i keep procrastinating.

File: fixmaybe.jpg (505KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

505KB, 1000x1000px

>>2903303
I'm not great, but here's some of my knowledge! D:

>>2904034
How are you so good? Blog?

is it okay to draw one thing at a time because it feels overwhelming to study more things than one

>>2904043
Sure.

>>2904038
http://meribels.tumblr.com/
I'm not that good I still have a lot to work on.

File: Ehad.jpg (53KB, 1319x862px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 1319x862px

I honestly dont know how to make any hair that looks good, or faces for that matter.

>>2903531
Yup, the elbow part is definitely the weakest. I'll be more careful next time...

File: aaa.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3264x2448px

recently been hooking up with this girl that loves getting choked. couldn't get this image out of my mind.

>>2903842
This guy here, still looking for advice. Posted work in post chain

File: 17379762_1478404245537348_402159336_o.jpg (218KB, 1536x2048px) Image search: [Google]

218KB, 1536x2048px

>>2903266
I need critique on how i can improve on this

File: tumblr_on024bz3CC1rlu284o1_1280.jpg (133KB, 768x1280px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 768x1280px

Yuralia, wearer of the rose crown, last of her people, mother of primarchs, who saw her youngest son murder her husband before her children fought to the death, who now grief broken perpetually haunts the halls of the floating castle, tending the garden of black roses that grow on the Graves of her people

>>2903586
No problem : this place needs to remember its title from time to time...
>>2904034
That's good enough to teach anon a few things as well. :)

File: IMG_3179.jpg (78KB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 750x1334px

I don't want to be alive anymore.

>>2903356
>>2903400
anyone? i could use some critique or advice.

>>2904064
What species is this thing? It surely doesn't look human at all. Given there's so little space for the brain, it must be kinda limited in that aspect.

>>2904097
Man up and continue your struggle, you low-spirited son of a bitch. Like hell you can give up at this stage!

>>2904098
Maybe you should start by removing unnecessary lines and trying to draw cleaner. Practice gestures more as well.

So I'm practicing drawing with my shoulder and to draw full lines instead of chicken scratching. However when I draw digitally it feels like I have less control of my lines than when I draw traditionally. I can't wrap my head around why that is.

File: IMG_2226.gif (464KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

464KB, 500x281px

>>2903303
>>2904034

I love you anon. She looks so cute! That's the standard that I'm going for, thanks a million! I will try to fix it today based on /ic/'s advice.

>>2904106
You can't hold a stylus the same way you hold a pen. Less surface friction. And digital is much more precise in a way.

>>2904117
ah, thank you anon

File: 20170227_204500.jpg (497KB, 1600x1200px) Image search: [Google]

497KB, 1600x1200px

Someone rate this random face i drew some days ago
(Yeah i know about paper, i'm drawing on blank sheets now don't worry)

File: bald.jpg (191KB, 576x924px) Image search: [Google]

191KB, 576x924px

>>2903547
red not blue

>>2904129
3/10

>>2904143
I need some advice
I really have no idea how to draw faces and heads
Be as harsh as you want to be

>>2904056
Could i get some critique on the expression too and how i could improve it?

>>2904145
sticky

>>2904143
You're too soft. With such a screwed up head, bad quality, and sideways image, it doesn't really deserve anything above 0.0001%

>>2904145
Find and download Skull Sketcher. Copy both skulls in different views (at least frontal, side, and 3/4 are a must) to understand the form of the skull. Only then you may start drawing heads.

>>2904136
Not him, but what the fuck is this supposed to be?

File: girllookingup.jpg (221KB, 1500x1000px) Image search: [Google]

221KB, 1500x1000px

Please critique on how accurate the perspective for this head is. Does anyone know by how much the top half of the front plane shortens as a person tilts there head back at various angles, or if the person tilts their head downwards, by how much does the bottom part of the front plane shorten(30^, 45^. 60 etc.)? As of now, I know that the ear stays in the same spot (halfway point of the head), so I draw lines from the top of the ears and estimate the point of where the eye line is and compare that to the angle of the top of the head.

>>2904163
I am aware that the ear I drew isn't the correct shape at all, or that the head isn't tilting like it is in the photo. But anyway, I want my critiques to be focused on perspective.

File: plane.jpg (259KB, 1500x1000px) Image search: [Google]

259KB, 1500x1000px

>>2904163
basic shit lad

>>2904034
these and red lines are probably the best sort of advice people can get, need more people like you in here

Need to learn to do a one point perspective room, been studying drawabox, any other good recommendable stuff for that?

>>2904177
a ruler, a pencil and an iq above 20

>>2904163
how about you appreciate yourself a bit and stop using watermarked stock photos as reference

>>2903266

Please dont post references like this, artificially adjusted aperture and zoom like this is not how the normal human eye operates. Please.. you're hurting beginners.

File: Ahed.jpg (94KB, 1318x890px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 1318x890px

>>2904146
I finished it off, overall critique for the next one?

File: snek.png (662KB, 1120x1600px) Image search: [Google]

662KB, 1120x1600px

Yeet

File: heads.jpg (85KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 600x600px

i don't know how to make features look like male features. any tutorials on this? how are these looking so far?

>>2904248
oh shit, hes back on faces
[spoiler] they are better than mine [/spoiler]

>>2904269
post your work

>>2903915
how do people actually learn to draw this kind of fantastic, not-based-in-life art anyway?

>>2904279
most fantasy is just a rearrangement of things you have seen in reality. truly good fiction is as far removed from your reality as possible but still maintaining a logical theory to it.

File: IMG_4369.jpg (119KB, 541x768px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 541x768px

>>2904248
Don't define the lips as much. Emphasize that their face is more "square" instead of round. Guys tend to be more "square" or angled than woman who tend to be more round.

Read Loomis' head and hands. It's great for male faces.

File: flathorriblenoperspectiveshit.png (117KB, 1164x733px) Image search: [Google]

117KB, 1164x733px

Some recent drawfaggotry I did.
Tear it to shreds so I might atleast learn something from this.

File: disc-5.jpg (84KB, 430x430px) Image search: [Google]

84KB, 430x430px

>>2904248
these look like they were stamped.
were they done with reference?
try to make them look like human features for a start.
for men, omit the eyelashes and don't go so hard on the lip contour. look how comic artists do them.

>>2904297
The ugly face/head and flat foot ruin it. There shouldn't be any folds on the right arm in this position, if you didn't break the joint and rotate the forearm 180 degrees, all the while managing not to tear the skin (which is a feat in itself). Also, fingers of the left hand have to be visible in this position. Work on the armpit, there is no square corners there. Other than that, not bad, considering that there's no horizon or more than two parallel lines to judge your perspective.

>>2904297
Other than the face that looks really good. Better than 99,9% of /beg/.

File: 1489623983304.jpg (53KB, 657x527px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 657x527px

>>2904292
i always forget im supposed to consult that book. i tried looking up refs for lips but i didnt notice any major difference and a lot of guys have bitch lips anyways.

>>2904305
what do you mean stamped? i didnt really use references for these except for hair styles. not even to check construction.
>try to make them look like human features for a start.
are you saying all the features look bad for just the guys?

File: painting6.jpg (34KB, 838x563px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 838x563px

>>2903267
I hope i did it.

File: image.jpg (1MB, 2340x3152px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2340x3152px

Why is drawing qt girls from imagination so hard?

File: image.jpg (2MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3264x2448px

Redid her head, better or worse?

>>2904348
better

>>2904338
What you've got going there is a decent generic person, but you haven't captured the likeness of that bloke on the left. Really look at the SHAPES of things, his chin is more square, his eyes are skinnier than the way you drew them, his nose is a little wider, and his lips are more full. Also you're not making things dark enough. You're doing digital here, so it's easy to undo.. Don't be afraid to get in there and really darken those shadows on the left side of his face.

File: draw.jpg (34KB, 636x657px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 636x657px

I tried to make a gesture action then draw in the basic forms, but I feel like I'm just not "getting" it. I'm getting better at using a reference to find an action, and not just copying contours from the model, but I'm still pretty bad and imagining actions.

>>2904160
The pecs should come down to the red line, not the blue line. They don't match the angle of the body.

File: likeness.jpg (62KB, 815x552px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 815x552px

>>2904338
>>2904354
just wanted to test this

File: image.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3264x2448px

How do you draw the body from difficult angles? Is it just studying anatomy and drawing from reference until you've internalized it

File: P_20170224_073945.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3264x2448px

How beginner are we talking here. Some of the posts in here are incredible to me

>>2904388
its perspective, it is more of a calculation than a creative process. you should read scott robertson or watch his videos

File: redline_2.jpg (116KB, 1000x524px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 1000x524px

>>2904379
Take a look at the thigh on your drawing - you used two lines to define the shape of the form, one from the left, one from the right.
That's a mistake.
With gesture, you're drawing the energy, the movement, not the forms. That's the whole difference between gesture and structure Steve Huston mentions so often.

See pic related, the distinction between the two stages of my drawing are clearly separated.
I also see you're having trouble drawing long, confident lines. You embarked on an adventure without a sword. Sure, forging a sword doesn't sound like a lot of fun, but it will come in handy when you get ambushed by a mountain troll. Better keep your tools sharp.

File: thundercats_by_alexpascenko.jpg (202KB, 1271x573px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 1271x573px

>>2904333
>what do you mean stamped?
They all have pretty much the same face.
You're symbol drawing. I suggest looking at and drawing some different faces and look how seasoned artist draw them.
When drawing with only black lines, it is easy to overemphasize parts of the subject, which makes it look weird. Since there are no lines in the real world, we really see in tones, there is a lot of simplification, but also interpretation in a line drawing. If you mess around with drawing filters in photoshop, you'll see that some parts or features disappear while others get more pronounced, but it all happens proportionally. You could get away with a harsh laugh line for example, when the rest matches in detail or the lighting situtation. But mostly it would be too soft a feature to be represented in a simple drawing. Same with drawing individual teeth. A white bar will usually look better.
You're breaking the illusion when you draw a harsh line for something that really is a soft transition, like the hairline. The human brain fills out suggested lines, which can be used to indicate a softer transition. Closed lines seperate an object from its surrounding/ background or indicate a hard transition. A transition happens between different objects, forms overlapping, textures or materials, light and shadow. Lineweight can further be used to enhance the detail or realism.
As for lips, a quick tip for more natural looking lips is to not close the outline, especially of the lower lip. If you look at some faces, you'll notice how there's a very smooth transition between the outer lips and the face.
pic is some nice face drawings. also an example how for manly faces, there can be used lines in the face that shows a more chiseled bone structure.

>>2904392
I would say you're intermediate not good but not a beginner after about a year of studying fundamentals and drawing a few hours a day. It might take longer or shorter for some people

>>2904383
Tbh, your red line does not match the angle too. Pecs should come down to their bisection.

File: 1489785904060_notes.png (443KB, 921x849px) Image search: [Google]

443KB, 921x849px

>>2903337
A few things:

- The left eye isn't supposed to be fully darker. The colored contacts take up most of the eye but if you look closely the very corner of the black eye is has the sclera poking through. So add just a small spot of white at the very left edge of the left eye.

- Your expression doesn't match the reference's expression because you didn't copy the face lines right. You did the "smile lines" but left out all the others. Specifically the lower lip is flat. This just gives the impression that the dude has a large upper lip area. Look closely at the reference. The lower lip/chin area is curved downward as well. Not by much, but it's not flat like in your drawing. Also the cheek line is slightly wrong. You have it just curving, but it's really comes down straight then curves inward towards the chin when it reaches the lower jaw bone. They way you have it makes his face look fuller than it should be. And fuller, rounder face is read as more friendly and childlike than the gaunt intensity that's really being put forward in the reference. Also the nose is scrunched slightly in the reference but smooth in your piece.

- The ear placement is off. You have it sticking out past the Mitre but look at the silhouette in your reference. Also a Mitre doesn't stick close to the head on the sides. It's basically two flat shapes of cloth that meet on the sides. so while the front and back will cling to the forehead and back of the head, the sides will stick out.

Hope this helps. I added some red notes to the drawing to hopefully point this out .

>>2904432
One thing I forgot: Your drawing is looking more forward and the reference is canted upwards slightly. Like just barely looking down his nose at the camera.

So try and change that too.

do i gotta learn how to draw shapes first before i draw bodies

>>2904439
Yes, if you can't draw a square, triangle, and a circle. You aren't going to make it.

>>2904432
>>2904435
Really helpful, thank you!

>>2904440
So if you can DODGE A WRENCH


you can DRAW A BALL

File: GITYI.jpg (98KB, 919x999px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 919x999px

Quick sketch
Still in progress, btw

shapes anon here
will this video help me draw shapes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqeuQF1qpvQ

File: IMG_0594.jpg (2MB, 4032x3024px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4032x3024px

How long did it take you before you could draw a straight line freehand?

Mine angle real bad with the superimposing technique.

>>2904454

Drawing shapes will help you draw shapes.

Don't lose the forest for the trees. You passed kindergarten. You watched Sesame Street. You know what a square is, you know what a triangle is, you know what a cylinder is.

Draw those, work on making the lines smooth and sharp, your pen control, work on making them have "bulk" and mass. Then work on how shading applies to them.

That videos tells you to do exactly this at the start.

Once you can draw shapes, then forms, you can use those as a basis for drawings.

You get good at what you do, so don't make what you do just watching videos.

>>2904459
A week.

>>2904463
O-oh [spoiler] it's been two... [/spoiler]

Am I supposed to like, tape the page to the paper? Any idea why it's not clicking?

My handwriting is awful btw does that mean anything?

>>2904466
No, you don't have to.

You might be handicapped.
You might be slow.

It means you don't try to improve and have never ever since childhood.

>>2904471
>haven't tried to improve since elementary school

Sounds about right... I'll keep trying...

File: 481.jpg (284KB, 1830x999px) Image search: [Google]

284KB, 1830x999px

>>2904453
Nice start! I think this would be vastly improved by doing two things.

1) correcting the proportions. Some things like the hairline or the placement of the ear are off and it really takes away from the piece.

2) Being more specific with edge control. You already have a nice variety of hard and soft edges, but you can choose more wisely which ones are hard or soft and to what degree. For example, the outline of her forehead and nose where it meets the background has a uniformly very crisp edge along it. If you think about it though, the edge is determined by the form, so the forehead which is a broader more gradual turning of form will be softer, and the nose which is a thin tube with a sharp curve will have a harder edge.

Otherwise I made some small value changes and some small drawing corrections like the way the neck and torso connect.

>>2904466
You have to focus on the line. Don't just pic a starting point and "throw" the line out hoping it'll land.

Follow the line, looking at where it is and where it's going.

You're supposed to do 200 of those a day, how many are you doing?

>>2904493
>200 a day

Well, theres my problem. I'm doing around 50 max.

I find that my pen leaves an indent in the paper that channels the pen to the wrong spot if I mess up the first time, should there be no indent? Am I pushing too hard?

How do I look at the line, do I have to move my hand? By focus do you mean during the drawing or before it?

>>2904459
>>2904463
It also took me about a week.

A few things to keep in mind:
1. ghost the line - at least 3-4 times
2. don't hesitate before putting the line down
3. find the optimal speed - neither fast or slow, try both and find the balance
4. increase distance - if you miss, keep the distance or shorten it; if you succeed, increase it
5. if your line arches upward, make one that arches in the opposite direction, then try again
6. most importantly: the grip - it has to be loose, but firm. If you get cramps in your arm, it's too much. If you don't feel absolute control over your pen, it's not enough

Practice, practice, practice, every day, before doing your studies.

File: maxresdefault.jpg (185KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 1920x1080px

>>2904499
>Well, theres my problem. I'm doing around 50 max.

2 full pages of superimposing lines
1 full page of ghosting lines
2 full pages of boxs and planes

EVERY SINGLE DAY!

And not like on printer paper. Get a drawing pad at least 11in x 14in.

>I find that my pen leaves an indent in the paper that channels the pen to the wrong spot if I mess up the first time, should there be no indent?

Damn dude, no. Way too hard. That's probably 90% of your problem right there.

>Am I pushing too hard?

Fuck yeahr.

>How do I look at the line, do I have to move my hand?

Draw with your shoulder as much as possible. Larger arc of movement, smoother lines.

>By focus do you mean during the drawing or before it?

Yes.

>>2904503
>>2904513
Thanks guys, I'll get on it!

File: image.jpg (122KB, 771x1061px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 771x1061px

it's good?

>>2904536
I'm not really sure if you're just this bad or we're just having fun here.

Either way, please stop.

File: megh.png (136KB, 718x838px) Image search: [Google]

136KB, 718x838px

It looks terrible and I don't even know why. Help?

>>2904565
But that looks good, you just need more contrast. Reminds me of Sinix.

>>2904540
So stop drawing all together? Gee anon what help you are. I thought you guys were suppose to being encouraging to draw

>>2904572
No, I would prefer if competent people were the only ones here because at least I know I won't waste time on them.

>>2904565
the construction of the head is kind of mad fucked up but your actual coloring seems to be coming along pretty well

>>2904578
You callin me a FAILURE?? I show you foo

File: leggos.jpg (133KB, 749x626px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 749x626px

Legs (including feet) lookin' ok?

>>2904565
It's the irises and positions of the pupils in them. They push the picture right into the uncanny valley. Right eye's pupil looks at viewer, despite the iris suggesting that your character looks to the left. The same goes for the left eye, but it's less noticeable. Remember, it's not just the irises that indicate the direction where a character looks. The positions and shape of the pupils make most of the job.
The nose looks really good (although I wouldn't make it so straight; and I think more of the left wing should be visible at this angle), and the mouth line needs more curve. The left eyebrow is noticeably shorter than the other. It doesn't reach the corner of the eye, but the left one goes much further than that. There are also some issues related to the head and ear shape, but I suppose you just didn't apply any effort to them yet.

>>2904595
>> but the left one
The right one, I mean.

I've found myself unable to continue, I feel I'm losing skill daily when I can't draw.
How do you guys manage when you cant draw?

>>2904609
Not gonna make jt

>>2904609
Get very angry at myself and contemplate the world ending, usually I'm back at it after three or so days of constant personal suffering.

File: uzhiuzhiuzhfdsaiuhfdsa.jpg (41KB, 682x775px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 682x775px

Send help

File: Capture d’écran 2017-03-18 à 20.21.38.png (586KB, 506x670px) Image search: [Google]

586KB, 506x670px

painted this dank meme today, any advice?

>>2903727
Do it anon. Im not kidding this place is a cesspool and the feedback you get here doesn't help. Just scrollin through this thread I see so much bad advice given by beginners to other beginners and a massively toxic mentality. Same thing in every other thread.

Only good thing here is the book thread and the sticky.

>>2904642
I don't get it anon. Why does it hurt me to be here? It makes no sense, but I feel so terrible being here but so glad at the same time.

File: 482.jpg (196KB, 1370x775px) Image search: [Google]

196KB, 1370x775px

>>2904619
It's a fine start, but I think you can be more conscious of the planes of the forms rather than just using a soft brush everywhere. Try painting with a hard brush getting the big planes and then break those planes into smaller ones and so one until it is nearly done, and then you can blend a few of them if you want, though that's often not even needed.

>>2904651
I shall try that, thank you. You are a hero.

>>2904619
Ahh, me old pal Geralt

>>2904624
Ah cool I love Arin Hanson. HAHA So many chins.

File: IMG_1396.jpg (449KB, 1512x1851px) Image search: [Google]

449KB, 1512x1851px

Hey, all! Thought pic related would be appropriate to post here. I'm working on drawing one of 2 women in a pool match.

While it's obviously not the final product (of the woman, at least), I thought I could ask for some feedback for my progress as well as keeping her legs aligned and elongated for her posture. Yes, I'm planning on adding shorts later on.

>>2903573
Say that to my face and not online see wot cums about fagtron

File: 050.png (264KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

264KB, 1000x1000px

2 min gestures, doing vilppu fig course week 1

>>2904738
Nah mate, I'm too pussy offline.

File: 1489007383567.jpg (92KB, 1200x767px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 1200x767px

>Grind perspective for 5 hours straight
>Close your eyes
>Viviid images with grids appear in your mind
>You can rotate large environments in your head in any perspective
>You realize there's no difference between the small and big
>It all depends on the size relationship between the objects we know/understand

Anyone have a pdf for Scott roberstons "how to draw"

I found the videos but not the actual pdf

File: tmp_19199-15-The-Devil-AH-e1458230759698-826630450.jpg (109KB, 500x834px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 500x834px

Any good coloring instructional resources? I wanna reach Lisa Frank levels of success.

>>2904767
>> You're inspired, you literally burn with passion!
>> You try to pass your imagination onto paper.
>> Everything is fucked up
>> Sad_pepe.jpg

>>2904779
https://mega.nz/#F!KAcEUL7L!_yS4xJoDitYx05s-M81_dQ

>>2904788
Ah this is a really good list
Thank you

>>2904782

I really like this image, does Lisa Frank do commissions?

>>2904788

>>> You realized you learned something useful despite your failure
>>> You're content with yourself for trying
>>> Tomorrow will be another day full of possibilities
>>> You're eager to Wake up and work

>>2903261
any art materials how to draw little girls the moe way?
cant seem to find one.
also need nude muscle refs of buff adult men

File: WDF_1091306.jpg (255KB, 1440x900px) Image search: [Google]

255KB, 1440x900px

>>2904799
Gonna make it.

>>2904799
replace first one with
>you realized what is wrong, but you still can't get it right despite trying over and over and over

What's the best/most convenient medium for putting white lines onto black ink? (Whiskers)

File: 1481759835101.jpg (43KB, 1024x752px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 1024x752px

>tfw not allowed to eat cookies until you finish your self-made assignments for the day

>>2904838
I should do this, it would get me drawing a lot more than the former.

>>2904845

Do it, Anon. It's worth it.

>>2904852
Is it really? Worth starving?

File: Screenshot_2017-03-18-14-24-37.jpg (615KB, 1440x1454px) Image search: [Google]

615KB, 1440x1454px

How the fuck do I draw. I can't follow this book's exercises anymore
I can't get my hands on that view finder bullshit either and couldnt find what it should look like and how to use it
I want to get good but it's demotivating looking at this refuse I make

beginner here, i keep trying to do these exercises copying lines, making a line, seeing its not the same and trying it again. and i pretty much end up stuck on 1 line forever
am i approaching this wrong

>>2904853

Yes, intermittent fasting has health benefits and helps regulate mood.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3670843/

So when you draw you try to copy the contour to give form but sometimes your hand-brain coordination doesn't understand what move you want to do. Am I right? So actually the process to learn would be tracing, tracing is the right answer right?

>>2904869
fasting is good but be careful if you're on high yeast diet (untoasted bread beer not so well cooked nuts and moldy cheese)

File: 1488761402860.jpg (277KB, 900x1115px) Image search: [Google]

277KB, 900x1115px

So, is painting by throwing something down on the canvas in the basic shape of what you want to draw and then refining it with values and then detail a bad idea for beginners? Or should the priority be learning to sketch things out first and becoming familiar with shape and proportion that way.

Pic related is basically the kind of thing I'm talking about.

File: katdrawing.png (165KB, 527x653px) Image search: [Google]

165KB, 527x653px

I tried to draw a cartoony type picture

struggling with colouring, not sure I should even be attempting much colouring without being good at drawing lines yet

>>2904907
It's fine to do as a beginner, but practice linework as well on the side. Don't just do shapes or you will probably slow your learning down a lot.

File: sakaya.png (30KB, 718x605px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 718x605px

i drew sayaka

>>2904923
Worst girl, never gonna make it.

>>2904908
>> not sure I should even be attempting much colouring without being good at drawing lines yet
Painting or drawing? Choose your path and level up fast, or follow both and be like a turtle to become a true pro in the end.

File: HOsr26T.jpg (110KB, 450x937px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 450x937px

what stages go into making something like this picture?

If I ever wanted to attempt something on a similar level of complexity, where would I even start

>>2904953
Pose -> Clothes -> Hair -> Skin Color -> Clothes Color -> Render both -> Add BG -> Finish

>>2904954
render?

add bg(background?)?

>>2904956
Read the sticky, you're obviously too new if you haven't even heard of rendering.

File: strong jaw homura.png (17KB, 723x498px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 723x498px

>>2904944
ey fuck you coobie

>>2904858
Help.
Should i continue trying to get this drawing right or study more basics

do you think everything needs color?
i don't feel like putting color in my art, though, not like i should at the moment at my skill level.

>>2904972
Don't bother yet.

>>2904971
if you think you should keep going, don't
its all /ic/ taught me

everything is shit, just start over
if you think your doing good, you aren't
keep practicing, because even redlines won't help your shitty works, ever

i think this whole board should just be wiped and never come back

>>2904972
There's nothing wrong with working in greyscale as long as your values are good.

>>2904960
i mean is rendering just as in anything else using a computer to add a style over the top

>>2904973
i don't want to color, thats the thing
im guessing shit looks nice in BW, but that takes skill

i also feel like i need a guide to being a beginner, i feel like im just not understanding the basics of the basics and its pissing me off.

everything is shapes, but shapes are wrong. so if i need to fucking use shapes to draw and shapes are wrong, how does anyone fucking draw? make sense you fucks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-NqaB1-F8o&t=911s

I felt this belonged here /ic/, is this guy good at art or not?

>>2904994
no, because its a video tutorial
LOOOOOOOMIS or bust
he already knows the secrets of drawing and you don't. read books from guys who have been dead for 1000+ years before you attempt even the basics!

that is /ic/ rules for life, what i was told when i posted any videos. fuck you guys.

>that one guy who blows at drawing and blames /ic/ for all his problems
What's his story?

>>2905002
So just go through Loomis?

Fucccccccccccccck, thanks anon

>>2904974
What are THE basics I should master?
I feel everything I've read is beyond my grasp.
I just want to draw sexy girls

>>2905002
wait what the fuck are you saying

Does anyone lnow where I can find refrence models? I want to practice the human form. Just as a hobby and ya know research purposes

>>2905002
>>2905011
>>2905016
kek'd

>>2905014
im not sure anon
im a beginner of beginners too
i just want to draw the sexy girls too

but something about learning the basics is impossible and i don't get it and /ic/ won't tell me what it is im REALLY doing wrong

>>2905027
I'm getting that too, the basics feel too complicated as odd as that sounds

just confused as fuck

File: 233431123213.jpg (46KB, 792x781px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 792x781px

>>2904619
Started anew, but this time with a hardbrush and going from dark to bright

fuck

>>2905073
It's definitely an improvement, but don't be afraid to push your values even farther and utilize harder contrast.

>>2905076
>>2905076
>>2905076

>>2905076
>>2905076
>>2905076

>>2905076
>>2905076
>>2905076

>>2905076
>>2905076
>>2905076

File: girldate2.png (337KB, 379x1000px) Image search: [Google]

337KB, 379x1000px

>>2903303
>>2904034
>>2904115

I tried making some changes. She still looks a bit flat...I'm still having trouble drawing curves and non-misshapen tits. I've always been a "less is more" kinda guy anyway I suppose...

>>2904409
>You're symbol drawing. I suggest looking at and drawing some different faces and look how seasoned artist draw them.

im just trying to paint faces. these videos are some pretty good paintings and the sketches dont have a whole lot more detail than what i have. how do you decide when to stop pushing detail in a drawing and start painting?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuSncqF8Edo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRIA1Spt6E

anyways thanks for the tips. im just a paint where im trying to draw faces that dont look like complete shit. ill consider lineweight going forward and try to play around make more interesting face but right now i just want to draw qt girls